human services. alex azar. thank you. and very importantly, cms administrator. >> ♪ >> hello. i am juan williams with kennedy, jesse watters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> president trump in north carolina giving a speech on his healthcare plan. the president promising to always protect pre-existing and accuses democrats of pushing socialized medicine. and the president ignited a fire storm about mail-in ballots.

>> we have to be careful with the ballots. the ballots are a scam. we want to make sure that the election is honest. i don't know that it can be with this whole situation. unsolicited ballots. millions sent to everybody. >> the white house said president trump will accept the results of what they call a free and fair election. some republicans condemning the president's words while joe biden and the democrats are outraged. take a look. >> [muffled audio]. what country are we in? >> president trump, you are not a dictator and america will not permit you to be one. >> i would say to any republican of good conscience working in the administration, it is time for you to resign.

>> trying to have the constitution of the united states [inaudible]. >> democrats, republicans accusing them of hypocrisy for their reaction after hillary clinton offered up this advice to joe biden. >> joe biden should not concede under any circumstances! i think this is going to drag out and eventually, i do believe he will win if we don't give an inch and if we are as focussed and relentless as the other side is. >> all right. it's a fight, dana. president trump said the only way he loses is if there is a rigged election. now he said he won't concede defeat if mail-in ballots are counted. then republicans cheney and mcconnell saying, we are going to have a new president. is this really an attack on american democracy? >> i don't think so. but i do think even back in

2016, there was this whole thing that president trump saying the election was rigged. the democrats said he won't accept the results. then they didn't want to accept the results but hillary clinton did the next morning because it was obvious she had lost. what we are dealing with now president trump is super skeptical of mail-in ballots even though he needs republicans to participate in mail-in ballots. there are a lot of that happening. democrats are way far ahead than republicans on that. he wants people to vote in person. that's ideal, but we know not everybody will do that. this reminds me when i heard this last night, oh, hear we go. the media will react. the democrats will say impeach and spokespeople for the white house will say no, a free and fair election we are fine. he comes out two hours later and says but i am not for the mail-in ballots. he is trying to keep everyone on their toes. the secretaries of state in all

50 states responsible for the elections they have an important job to do. we need to condition everybody to understand that on november 3rd when he are in this studio and it's the big election night, it might not be the election night you recall from the past. these mail-in ballots in pennsylvania and wisconsin and maybe even michigan, they are allowing them to come in post-dated 14 days after the election. we could be sitting here for a long time. bring your sleeping bag. >> jesse, more democratic bed wetters? >> that's what they call themselves. >> that stuck in my mind. atlantic magazine. >> people confuse me with dana constantly. >> the magazine reports that republican state officials are looking for ways to disqualify

mail-in ballots and appoint trump supporters to the electoral college to get around the results. this sounds like they also plan to not acknowledge a biden victory. >> false. if i were president, this is how i would have answered the question. for a while imagine me president. does that send a shiver down your spine? >> yes. >> i would have said this: no there won't be a peaceful of transfer of power until 2024 because i am not going to lose. this is a hypothetical. let them write whatever they want. they will write the wrong story anyway. if you are the president they already advertised the scheme that certain democrats states are sending out mail-in ballots. you can bring them in and the signatures don't have to mast. -- match.

and it's way past the deadline. you can't disqualify them if someone votes mickey mouse. they will litigate it so it goes on forever and they hold the country hostage with riots. hillary clinton said they should not concede. even social media companies said if the president declares victory, we will censor him. now the democrats were caught. mini-mike was busted for buying ex-felon votes in florida. the democratic party, this is the party that spies illegally and sent fbi agents into the white house. they don't get to lengthure anybody on a peaceful transition

of power. >> wow. greg, will trump fans attack the media? >> i thought it was unfair showing that video of biden asking what country we were? he was legitimately asking. he had no clue. this is probably the best gas lighting i have seen in the last 3 months. if trump loses an election, no trump supporter is going to riot. they have to be at work the next day. also, they accept results. however, right now, you already have riots have the seal of approval from the democrats. you have them calling them mostly peaceful protests.

you think that trump is suggesting a non-peaceful transition after 100 days of non-peaceful protests? he just answered honestly to a question that had been posed initially by the democrats. should we send in the army is trump stays in? that was never in trump's brain. he wasn't talking about this initially. this came from the democrats. it's rich on their part to act like oh my god, violence. when they are pushing violence every day as an extortion plot to make you think if you support trump or put your sign out on your porch, you are going to get punched or torched. that's the reasoning right now. that's coming from the left. it's not just coming from me. >> wow. kennedy, what we heard today from the president, does that fit with his decision to rush

a supreme court nominee? is he thinking he can get a favorable ruling from the supreme court if he challenges the election and it ends up at the high court? >> just looking at this, yes, the math is on his size. if he had conservative justices 6 versus 3 of the more liberal jurists. you have to remember, you do have a wild card on the supreme court if n john roberts and there was a story that bret kavanaugh might be the hope of the left. some of his decisions have not been cookie cutter republican decisions. we don't know what will happen. this is 2020. it's going to get weird. >> [laughing]. >> it could be an absolute tie on election day.

i don't know why nancy pelosi is pushing this court packing agenda vocally when she should become president. she could get on her queenly throne in the white house. if president trump pays it straight, he is good. i agree with jesse. there is not going to be a transition of power. he is very confident he will get reelected. it's smack talk as the young people call it. >> thank you. up next it's crunch time for the candidates ahead of the big debate on tuesday. president trump and joe biden trading insults in a preview of what is to come next on "the five." >> ♪

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gearing up for the big debate on tuesday. basement biden off on the campaign trail. the campaign expects president trump to lie through his teeth. the former vice-president said he is ready to go.

>> i am not the guy who can't run up or down the ramp to deliver a commencement speech at an academy. i am not the guy [inaudible]. i am used to dealing with bullies. rather than say what i am going to do, watch me. we will see. what i will do is insist we talk about the president's failures. >> and president trump weighing in on what to expect. it sounds like it could get nasty. >> i am the one without experience. he's been doing this for 47 years plus. he has a tremendous advantage. but i have a much better record than he does. i look at hunter biden today where he stole million dollars. his father should leave the campaign because his father was in on and knew everything. >> [laughing]. >> all right, dana, brought this

point up yesterday, juan. let's say the president turns to joe biden and says, joe, you have a russian billionaire paying your son 3.5-million dollars what was that for? >> mr. president, let's debate on the issues and not slander. >> that's where the money went. >> no, ron johnson the u.s. senator using all of the investigation powers of the senate cleared joe biden of any wrongdoing. >> they have the receipts. >> i will tell you something: what comes across in that exchange we just played, is how hilarious the last few months on this show have been. i have heard you guys say joe biden lost his marbles. joe biden can't do it. joe biden is weak and now you are saying joe biden is a great orator. we expect him to do well.

>> are you lowering expectations? >> you got it. now you see president trump, he is saying, biden was on drugs. >> performance enhancing drugs. >> whatever. today a got a big kick out of. this he said biden is wearing the mask because of plastic surgery! >> how did that get by me? i didn't hear that. >> when juan details trump's stuff. he doesn't retell it like it's supposed to be. the plastic surgery line was hilarious. you are like you would not believe! every day it's a surprise. i can't believe he said that. my word! >> he says outrageous stuff regularly. >> that's true. >> you say it's a joke. i am in on the joke when he said

chris wallace is under the control of the radical left? >> some of those may go over your head. >> well, i don't know. i am interested in the fact it's only 90 minutes. you know trump wanted it longer. but if it was the biden campaign it would have been 20 minutes long with four 5-minute breaking news included. >> [laughing]. >> i thought that would have landed better. >> i thought it was really good. >> i was laughing on the inside. >> [laughing]. >> are you calling on me? >> yes. >> the other thing biden said, i am not preparing for the debates. then what you are doing all day? i believe both men are competitors that want to win. >> i heard he got a fitting today for an earpiece! >> oh, i have one other point.

the debate moments are made. they don't just happen. you have to be prepared. you have to know your opponent well enough to know their weak spot. for example, hunter biden. that would be a spot where you being get joe biden to react. >> yes. he will be picking that scab. >> a few weeks ago on the show i said both candidates need to download the pizza hub app and order a pizza. and download tiktok and learn a dance and perform it on stage and they get to be president. chris wallace, this is i give me. give them both a cognitive functioning test. >> that was a joke too? >> yes. >> oh.

>> a stable genius. >> i thought that was ridiculous. next president trump lays into mini--michael bloomberg claiming he is committing a felony by paying people to vote in florida. >> ♪

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>> ♪ >> billonaire michael bloomberg raised money to pay legal fees for felons to cast ballots in florida. the florida attorney general on a call for an investigation. >> targeting certain voters, it doesn't matter what party it is. that triggers florida law. under florida law, you can't directly or indirectly give anything of value to persuade or

entice a vote. >> i guess it's a felony. he is paying people to vote. he is saying here is money, you vote for only democrats, right? or vote against trump. what mike did a total criminal act. >> there is a lot of nuance here and florida voters voted felons who served their time to be able to vote. the state legislator said not until they pay the fines and a lot of them don't have the money. michael bloomberg comes in. kennedy one thing from bloomberg's team, they are saying this is an obvious political ploy by republicans to keep florida voters disenfranchised. they were caught flat-footed on the pr-war.

>> i think they should have owned this. this would have been a good time for republicans in this administration to say we have been good on criminal justice reform. the democrats made this worse. if you have a new crop of people that are going to vote, at least try -- it's always a good idea, no matter who it is. we categorize people too much. you assume because of what you look like you will vote a certain way. both parties leave a lot on the table. republicans should have gone after a large group of people who may not vote at all. >> yes. they might not. bloomberg has a ton of money to spend. he flipped a seat in oklahoma that is now represented by a democratic congresswoman. why not just spend money on

those districts to flip in florida? >> he is spending $100-million on a whole state. i think he is trying to do that. it's clearly directed to defeating president trump. kennedy, does roger stone live in florida? he might vote for trump. >> [laughing]. >> you know what i think about this controversy, 1, why not let people vote? kennedy is right. let them vote. but secondly, 65% of the people of florida said they want to empower felons to vote. 65%. it was governor ron desantis and the state republican majority in the legislature and the attorney general who are trying to undermine the will of the people. to my mind, bloomberg is with the people of florida and saying, i am allowing these people who you agreed should vote to vote.

>> was there a quid pro quo, if you remember that phrase? >> where did i hear that? [laughing]. juan is wrong. the people voted to say if you have been convicted of a time and do your time, you should vote. part of doing your time is serving your sentence. when a judge says you have to serve two years and pay a fine, until you pay that fine, you are know clear. that's what this is about. if you embezzle money and you served the sentence and you is to pay back the money. >> that's not what they voted. >> that's what the legislature said. they clarified what it means to serve a sentence. it's true. when it got challenged, it went to the circuit court of appeals and that circuit said this is legal. there are 10 judges on that.

this is the law. and mini-mike's team confessed to breaking it. they are doing this for blacks and hispanics. >> i tried to look into that. >> it's in the memo. look at the "washington post" put the memo out there. mini-mike, i don't think he will survive. >> greg, a new florida poll that shows trump in the lead. a "washington post" and abc news poll with likely florida voters. trump seems to be moving ahead. >> i won't address that because i have nothing to say about it. i am not prepared for that point. how long before the word felon is deemed an offensive word. call them undocumented voters. to your point, kennedy, is this really a good investment?

a guy that knocks off a liquor store, does he know the day to vote? he might tell you to vote, dana and he will break into your apartment and steal all of your dog toys. i don't know if a felon is going to be the type of person who votes. out of 30,000, i would say 1,000. >> first of all, the toys are not mine. they are jasper's. i think there are should people that have turned their life around. >> give me names of felons you know that are voting that not in this building. >> [laughing]. that's a long list. >> [laughing]. >> i don't know who these felons are. >> [overlapping talking]. >> you don't hang out in the circles. >> in prison and fighting for your rights, you tend to educate yourself. you talk about the system with other people.

especially non-profit groups. i am trying to think of the guy's name. desmond mead who was in florida. >> i watch a lot of law and order. people that read law books need it get a grip on society. that was in the early seasons. >> enjoy the returns tonight. coming up next the supreme court battle gets uglier. president trump is booed paying his respects to ruth bader ginsburg. >> ♪ >> ♪ ♪ limu emu & doug you know limu, after all these years it's the ones that got away that haunt me the most. [ squawks ] 'cause you're not like everybody else. that's why liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. what? oh, i said... uh, this is my floor. nooo!

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>> stay classy. president trump booed paying respects to ruth bader ginsburg adding fuel to a contentious supreme court battle. could extreme responses from democrats boost trump's 2020 chances. trumps allies seeing political goal in liberals pushing measures like court packing and impeachment. jesse, this is a boiling cauldron all over the place. it's getting hotter by the minute. anything in this mess that helps the president? >> i think so. the vacancy pushed the liberals to fringe position and a second impeachment is crazy. biden can't win a general election like that. who knows how it will turnout? i think it fires up both bases. if they get the third justice confirmed before the election is pumps up republicans. it looks like if it's amy coney barrett, that they won't be able

to call her sexist or racist because she is a woman who adopted two haitian babies. they will say she will overturn roe v. wade and obamacare. they will overreach. democrats always go a little too far. to them to be that nasty to the woman's face. a mother and brilliant constitutional scholar. they will come off as going after christianity. if you go after the police, the founding fathers and capitalism and throw in christianity i don't think that's a smart strategy. maybe in new york and california, but not in the battlegrounds. >> democrats don't like the president and even some republicans don't like the president but love the idea of a conservative majority for the

supreme court. doesn't that give republicans the edge if you get more on vote voting with trump on this single issue. >> they were already voting for trump. yes -- >> if they are using the # never trump they might not be voting for trump. >> i thought you were talking about getting more republicans energized. >> the never trumpers? >> if you are a republican moderate and much of this election is about suburban women who lean republican but are not fans of trump. if this moves the dial, this would be it. today there are polls done by republicans making them anxious because most americans, two thirds think the president should not rush this through. people say if this is about d

dismantling the affordable care act and taking away coverage for pre-existing it will go badly. >> the president said they are not getting away from pre-existing conditions. lates go back to the suburbs. those are voters that have been peeling away from president trump. this might bring some back. what do you think? >> it depends on if the democrats can convince voters that roe v. wade would be overturned. what does that to? people will be fired up. on the pre-game thing. -- the pre-existing things democrats are focussed on this case. democrats are focussing on that. that's one of the reasons the

republicans lost the house in 2018. today the president is saying it's gutting the lawsuit that the administration is putting forward. why don't they just drop the lawsuit and let it go. we will do this by executive. order. i will have an amazing healthcare plan in two weeks and do it that way. i don't know it turns on pre-existing conditions alone. republicans have done an amazing job at registering new voters. that's a good indication of who will win the election. the democrats in the last 5 days have registered 200,000 more voters just as ruth bader ginsburg died. it's real tight. >> wrap it up, greg? >> it's not a good look to boo somebody at a funeral. you would never see republicans booing an opposition leader at

the funeral. that's the over-playing the dems are suffering from. doctor hook has more hands to play right now than the democratic party. >> [laughing]. >> a digital clock has more hands. >> they have no hands at all. >> exactly. the democratic party has no hands to play on this. talking about the issues. it doesn't matter. the vote is there. ignore the polls. republicans should not care about these polls because nobody cares anyway. number two, they got the votes! this party will do the same thi thing. just spank their butt and get it done. ignore everything else. >> fastest-7 next. stay with us. non-valvular afib can mean a lifetime of blood thinners.

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>> the fastest-7. first up. there will be no crowd at times square for new year's eve. the event is going virtual. i don't know about you, i think all of us have done a new year's eve special. great idea. i am so glad. >> yes, jesse and i were out

there for the coldest new year's eve ever. we made a pack we would not show how cold we were. we were the only ones on tv not complaining. >> negative 30? >> absolutely. >> juan, i never understood the excitement of watching a ball drop. you can go to other places to see that. >> [laughing]. >> like a bris. >> [laughing]. >> sorry. i thought it was a crazy time. you can't do that with the virus. dick clark won't be there? >> he passed away. >> that's what i thought. too bad. >> the best news that the nypd has had all year. they don't have to worry about it. that's a big event for them. >> jesse, i have an idea. now that it's shutdown, you and i host fox's new year's eve. totally empty.

it would be great. >> i was going to stay home and watch don lemon get his nipple piece? will that happen or will it be virtual? >> he will look like a pin cushion. >> the producers are getting nervous. gucci is selling denim overalls with a fake grass stain for $1400. fashion can sell you anything and call it good if you have enough idiots? >> as i am cleaning out my closet. look, if they want to spend money on this, tip the deliveriy man. >> grass stains, i could give that you for 50 bucks. >> what kind of grass, you heathen. >> sell me a pair, send them to

me. >> i find these overalls clumsy unless you are working the farm. >> people that didn't get real grass instantaneous grstains li. >> i grew up on a farm for special kids. juan, is this proof of how pretentious the fashion industry is? >> this is so stupid. the idea that people walk around in torn jeans. that's how old i am. you paid good money -- those torn jeans are not cheap. you buy torn jeans. when i was a kid that was not hip. >> jesse, won the war on christmas. the cdc advising against trick

or treating. why not a t-shirt cannon and you fire the candy at the child. >> chuck them out the window. you dress up as dr. fauci. then the liberals have to open the door. >> dana, the kids are wearing masks already. >> yes. that's what i was thinking last night. it's ready made for covid. >> this is a perfect covid holiday. >> did you have the ones from target with plastic and the elastic strap. those were hard to breathe in. >> that's the point. the cdc said you can't wear a mask with a covid mask because it will make it hard to breathe. >> i don't think you have to double mask. >> that's what they were thinking. >> juan did research on this segment today. not the other one. >> kennedy, you know how people do costumes based on events that happened in the year.

what would you go as? it's 2020? the covid molecule? >> i would go as her husband covered in oil. >> what? >> her second husband. my girls are not planning on trick or treating. they made plans that involve baking and the twilight zone. >> sugar is worse for kids than it is coronavirus. >> yes. >> that's not a scientific fact. just putting it out. >> put that out on the blogs. >> "one more thing" is up next.

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true, true! >> all right, gregory. >> overrated. happy birthday, lou dobbs, 60 is tough. let's do this. >> this is raw! >> i was wrong. it should have been captain hook and not dr. hook in the block but i'll admit in the new segment to when i've been wrong and i've been saying the last 20 years the red hot chili peppers is the worst band in history. i just hate them and about three weeks ago, i was on the bike and i heard the song that i likened all my god it's a red hot chili peppers song. danny california. it got off to a really good song but i was wrong and they are not worst band. >> who is now the worst band? >> mip maroon be maroon 5. >> you have to make another correction eventually. you stole that from me and i had

jesse's correct the record and how did he get it? >> i commissioned it before you did it. [laughter] >> europe, europe. >> i will steal something from you. i don't get a fancy -- how long drive to work on the show for? the japanese built a social justice warrior robot. this is a left-wing robot, well, you find out this way when they unveiled the robot in the first thing the robot does is take a knee. it's left-wing radical robot in the japanese of course built a left-wing radical robots and who else knows and it's probably a ballot harvest and all kind of booing the president during funerals. what will they think of next? >> unbelievable, i want to get in on correcting greg and jesse. i have a lot of work.

paul started officially on tuesday so it is time for endless summer, take a look at nate clark. just four and a surfing prodigy from england and he's been surfing since he was age two. during the coronavirus lockdown, he's been surfing every day because his house is only 5 minutes from the beach. his dad gives him arrive after the big waves but once he's out there, it is nate who kicks the waves and take us off on his own. pretty cool for a 4-year-old. his parents tend to my plan to enter my competition as soon as he's old enough >> would you like that your own face? they said yes, i will do, and so she crafted a cake in one of the cake masters and she made a selfie cake and there she is. that's going to be an identical replica of her face side-by-side with a giant sponge cake. it was delicious we were told

and her face tastes great. >> remember, johnny dropped it right on its head? >> that's like a horror movie. anyway, that is it for us for us at "the five." hey, bret baier. >> bret: hey, juan. welcome to washington i'm bret baier and breaking tonight president trump preparing for a campaign stopped in florida at the top of the hour and a short time ago as you look live in jacksonville, we had health care speech in north carolina. tonight, fox news poll's for the election releasing right now and these are battleground states and joe biden continues to lead the president of the battleground state of ohio and pennsylvania. biggest five in ohio, seven in the pennsylvania, and the biden leads the president by 11 and likely voters in the poll. the president taking criticism tonight for something he would not say when asked about the