danadana: it is 5:00 o'clock in cleveland, ohio and this is a sunday edition of the five. ♪ president trump set to hold a news conference at the white house as moments from now and we will take you there went to begins. first battle lines drawn in the fight over the supreme court after president trump officially nominated judge amy coney barrett, the partisan bout enter battle over a month away and joe

biden attacking president trump and republicans for moving forward. >> never before in our nations history as a supreme court justice been nominated and installed while a presidential election is already underway. people are voting right now because another very soul of this country is at stake. if the people choose donald trump then the senate should give his nominee a hearing and a vote. if the people do not choose to and choose me, president trump's nomination should be withdrawn. dana: to president trump defending judge barrett's record and republicans will vote to confirm her no matter what. >> this is a person who is outstanding, a great student, a great scholar, her professor one of the most notable and actually probably one of the most respected in notre dame said amy was the best student, who would

not do this, they say why don't you wait for the next, the elections have consequences and we won the election, we have the senate and the presidency. i think she will be confirmed and probably long before the election, relatively long before the election. dana: let's begin by talking about the rollout, it seems faultless to me. >> between the personal story between judge. told the white house in the way that the president introduced her, i think she did a really good job in her speech of giving democrats a preview of how they should lend stability to the process when she told the story about the relationship and the friendship between justice ruth gator bransford injustice scalia and said they had many different policy agreements but when it came to the court they were good friends and put those things aside, i think democrats have to be careful when it comes to the way they approach this, you have

one democrat uchitel democrats have gone crazy on capitol hill, one of the witnesses on behalf of adam schiff for impeachment is saying she should be confirmed to the bench and completely qualified and you have a number of activists on twitter and senator blumenthal say he will not be with her and they have to be careful about how they approach this and whether going out to her children are going after her for other reasons is qualified to do the job. dana: president trump have comments today, a little called for as we call it, about how the kavanaugh fight affected this. >> i don't think i've seen anybody for any position treated the way he was treated and so viciously by harrison and all of them, the way that they spoke to this man was so horrible. i think it makes it easier for

amy, i think they cannot do that again they can never get away with it. nobody has ever been treated so badly as justice kavanaugh. >> talk to me a little bit about that begin to think back to 2018 and the confirmation hearing happened right before the midterms, of course republicans ended up losing the house but it did fire up republicans who have never forgotten that kavanaugh confirmation. >> they actually added seats in the senate to a certain extent, you can say they juice the senate results. yesterday you are right, i was flawless, she is poised, confident, articulate, she gave me a very warm fuzzy conservative feeling in my big, big healthy heart when she said two things, she said i model my judicial philosophy after school leah and to i love the country and the constitution. those might be a big turnoff for democrats, to me those are huge turn on's, i see the

intellectually and now the democrats say we will not be with her, that is good for amy, she does not have to sit down with crying chuck or character assassins like kamala harris. they are supposed to be delivered in serious and now they are just taking cues from the squad and they are coming off as snobs and radicals and they run a big risk. here is the risk. the democrats are not going to be able to conduct themselves in a professional fashion, they will go scorched-earth on this woman, her family and her christian faith, that stench is going from the democrats in the senate to move over to joe biden's campaign. joe biden is not going to be able to avoid that stench. the way that you tie those two together is kamala harris. she will be in the hearing, that is a direct tie between the senate and the democrat behavior and the biden campaign.

that will be despicable, donald trump is going to call them out for that and there is no way biden can escape it and improves the obligation that joe biden is a weak front man for nasty power-hungry socialist. dana: joe biden took question today, take a listen to this earlier in wilmington. >> if donald trump gets his way, if you lose the right to vote, clean air and water in equal pay for equal work, workers could lose their collective bargaining rights, dreamers can be thrown out, the only country they have ever known. and women can lose the bed rock and roby wait for 50 years. >> we need a trump. dana: i read earlier today the democrats are caught between a rock and a hard place between the nomination and they know it will go through because republicans have the vote, how

do you think to handle between now and when the vote is likely to happen before election day. >> i love listening to katie and jesse because clearly they think democrats are going to get personal and even into judge barrett religious base and the way that she engages, i am sorry to tell you guys, that is not going to happen. instead i think what you are going to see is what you saw from joe biden which is what happened where they fixed the three conservative court to the affordable care act, what happens to people with pre-existing conditions including 6 million people who had tested positive for coronavirus. what happens to people's huge children lose work during this economic crisis during the virus and get to stay on their parents insurance plans, that is all gone, what happens to bargaining rights, what happens to more guns on the streets, what happens to people who are in brackets. this is the consequence of a rushed process, the majority of

the american people, they think this process is being pushed in a brutal way by republicans to simply say we control the supreme court. on that front, it is so troubling to me, you undermined a major american institution, the supreme court of the united states, american people have to have trust that you have some impartial judgment, wise considered learning people who are looking at the constitution and looking out for the best interest of our country of all americans. now we are put in a position in saint just another political institution filled with a bunch of republican nominees to deliver wit republican opinion. that is not healthy for america. dana: what about some people out there questioning amy coney barrett's integrity for even being willing to be considered nominated to the court at this time and defaulting her on part

of a process that she has something that she has done wrong. >> she is being scolded by media hacks who wish they would get a job offer like this. these people would die if they were asked to get a job like that, i will not mention who said this because they are losers. i am so tired of us pretending that this is actually a fight, this is just like impeachment junior. we sat and we knew the impeachment was a dead fish but we have to pretend and have the hearings. we do not have to draw any battle lines, because there is no battle. the numbers are there, the boat is in, we do not even have to show this hearing, the democrats calling for a boycott is the best news ever, that is like a deadbeat relative deciding to boycott your birthday party, that is like michael moore boycotting a restaurant, you're ungrateful for it.

the fact is, we, the media should have boycotted the impeachment, we would've been way ahead of the game when it came to coronavirus. i have advice for viewers watching at home, do not watch. when the hearing comes on, turn the channel because it's only way people learn. if they cannot get the spotlight, white are they indulged in their phony theatrics, we already know what the vote is going to be, they will only show up at the hearing to preen, to score points, to get picked up on media blogs or on twitter, if you do not watch it and you do not give them the chance with the gratuities grandstanding until the programmers and producers that their ratings dropped that this does not rate, we already know what the final game result is going to be. we know the score, let's not play, the republicans should boycotted. everybody should boycotted, let's not pretend this is a

battle. dana: lots of boycotts happening, maybe, or not. much more to come on the special sunday edition on the five, the big dipper done to debate is days away, president trump is he said he is not to worry. that is next. m ♪ whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard. you might want to clean that up, girl. excuse us. when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you built with customizable coverage. -and i'm gonna -- -eh, eh, eh. -donny, no. -oh. my wife and daughter had been killed in an automobile crash,

and lying in the bed were my two little boys. i couldn't have imagined what it would've been like if i didn't have insurance to cover them immediately and fully. forty years later, one of those little boys, my son beau, was diagnosed with terminal cancer, given months to live. i can't fathom what would have happened if the insurance companies had the power to say, "the last few months, you're on your own." the fact of the matter is health care is personal to me. obamacare is personal to me. when i see the president of the united states try to eliminate this health care in the middle of a public health crisis, that's personal to me too. we've got to build on what we did because every american deserves affordable health care. i'm joe biden and i approve this message. "a good education takes you many different horizons"

and that sticked to my mind. so, when $1 a day came out, i said, "why not"? why not just utilize that resource. and walmart made that path open for me. without the $1 a day program, i definitely don't think i'd be in school right now. each week for me in school is just an accomplishment. i feel proud every step of the way. we live in the mountains so i like to walk. is just an accomplishment. i'm really busy in my life; i'm always doing something.

i'm not a person that's going to sit too long. in the morning, i wake up and the first thing i do is go to my art studio. a couple came up and handed me a brochure on prevagen. i've been taking prevagen for about four years. i feel a little bit brighter and my mind just feels sharper. i would recommend it to anyone. it absolutely works. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.

speed when the first presidential debate is two days away and there ratcheting up the attacks as they get ready to square off tuesday night. president trump is demanding more from a drug test for joe biden, here it is, i will be strongly demanded of drug test

for sleepy joe biden prior to or after the debate on tuesday night. naturally i will agree to take one also. debate performance have been record-setting o uneven to put t mildly only drugs could cause this discrepancy. biden claims he is not worried about the debate. >> it will be difficult, i know, my guess is it is going to be straight attack, mostly personal, that's only thing he knows how to do, he does not debate the facts, he is not that smart he does not know that many facts. he does not know much about foreign policy or domestic policy. he does not know much about the detail. jesse: this reminds me of the big high-priced boxing matches where they sat across from the table with the microphones in the table and they talk trash, how do you see the trash talking leading up to this brought. greg: it is funny, if you look at the two candidates, the one

in terms of volume he talks trash is trumped but the one who says the worst possible thing that you can say is joe biden. i don't hear trumped calling joe biden a racist or that he is responsible for telling people to drink bleach or any other of these crazy hoax that joe brings up when he is not speaking and on sensible sentences. i am wondering if he is going to be there, if joe will be there and if he shows up, will this be his only appearance and afterwards say that is enough. i would like chris wallace to be fair and balanced and asked joe the question that everybody keeps asking trump which would you guarantee a peaceful preservation of power when you lose the election? if you lost, will you return peacefully to your life in delaware to your beachfront

house. because nobody asked that question. of course he's going to say of course not, i'm going to win but that is what trump said. jesse: dana i was leading something in political, you probably read it at 6:00 a.m. and i probably edit at 10:30 a.m., it says biden has a tough road ahead on tuesday, if he gets in the gutter with trump and all he is doing is brawling and counter punching, he is doing what trump wants to do in losing the opportunity to speak directly to the american people while millions are going to be watching fox host the debate. but if he does not do that and he sits there and get pummeled then he looks like a total weak link. it is not easy on tuesday. dana: vice president biden has more to lose in this debate than president trump has to win, president trump spaces really lockton, biden is sitting on a

national league, they are not out about but apparently this is a strategy that is working for them. i do remember back in the primary debate when there were many of the democratic candidates on stage and they would go for two hours, the second hour was never the strongest for joe biden. he won the primary, i get that, this is a debate that starts at 9:00 p.m., it goes for 90 minutes and if you recall when joe biden sometimes he would run out of things to say and he was am almost out of time, i am is think that chris wallace should say please you have two additional minutes, go ahead and see what we have, whereas both of the candidates said i don't need to practice, i'm not studying, another thing that i just read says that they have actual details and a little bit of color on how they are preparing, they should this is a big deal. i think that could possibly be the most-watched presidential debate in history.

jesse: i would agree with that, you heard joe biden say the president does not anything more details, he does not know facts, he does not know foreign policy or domestic policy, are you concerned that joe biden might be too arrogant going into this thing and trying to get into the weeds about details and fact checking and get bogged down? juan: no, like he would call out trump for lying. jesse: no, if you're going to get down to the nitty-gritty of policy details, that does not work for joe, that is not his strength into prove how smart and experienced he is in a debate against the brawler who speaks in broad strokes, i don't know if that is the right idea going in. juan: obviously if he is capable of it, that right away would call out one of the big flanders

that trump's been busy with, the joe biden has lost his marbles, he sleepy joe, incoherent, he is doddering, will he be there and all that kind of stuff, people can see for themselves that they have been led down the garden path by this guy. and i think people will be aware of it. if you are asking me, is it smart for biden to say mr. president, that is not true, i think that is to his advantage, the key thing here, remember trump trails in these polls consistently after two conventions and all the charges and all the things that he said. he even trails in ohio according to the latest fox poll. when you look at that, the one that needs a game changer is donald trump and that's why he's resorting to reality tv tactics like drug test, must have a drug test, i will take it you take it. where is this coming from, where does that have to do with anything. that is the tactics that he is using. jesse: i don't think trump will lose ohio.

katie you understand what the president is saying with a drug test, he has had an uneven performance in his debates, dana mentioned that he is dating, he has good days and bad days and then he is very bad days. is it beyond the realm of probability that he might be taking some sort of speed or booster to get him cranked up? katie: permission to make a sports analogy. jesse: permission granted. katie: in sports at the college level in the professional level and the olympics, athletes are tested to a number of substances that help them with their performance. maybe you could say that the president wants to make sure he's has an even playing field with the super bowl politics. on a more serious note, i think the president is really going to kneel down joe biden on what his plan for his presidency would

be, biden has campaigned a whole lot on what obama biden did in the policy that they implement did moving forward and going back eight years to policies that relate people voted against when president trump was elected in 2016. the other thing that we are going to see as dana mentioned, the strategy of keeping joe biden away from the press pays off or not. he has not been answering a lot of questions, chris wallace has forced him to answer questions and recently when he asked questions about reporters he actually said one word answers, he says trump is a that is an answer to carry questions about policy in detail. he will accuse the president of not knowing those things, he is going to have to provide what his own policies would be independently and in detail for the american people because we have not seen a lot from him when he had the into these questions previously. jesse: i think you will hear a lot coming from trump, joe you been in washington 47 years, why did you not do it the last 47

years and i think joe biden does not have an answer to that. democrats revealing how they plan to go after supreme court nominee amy coney barrett, we will fill you in with that next. ♪ ♪ smooth driving pays off with allstate the safer you drive the more you save ♪ you've never been in better hands allstate click or call for a quote today

it's official: national coffee day is now national dunkin' day! celebrate with a free medium hot or iced coffee with any purchase on september 29th. >> welcome back to cleveland president trump holding a news conference moments from now and we will bring it when it starts. in the meantime the democrats uniting how they a plan to oppose a supreme court nominee judge amy coney barrett, they are going all in on healthcare, take a look. >> president trump sees a chance to fulfill his explicit mission, still away the vital protection of aca from countless families. >> i believe first that the

whole process has been illegitimate and second as she already stated that she is for overturning aca. >> what i am concerned about is anyone that president trump would have appointed to undo the affordable care act. juan: president trump preparing to respond by tweeting obamacare will be replaced with a much bigger, far cheaper alternative if it is terminated in the supreme court, big win for the usa. that makes me wonder, katie, what happens to his place four years ago to produce a better, cheaper, healthcare plan and affordable care act. katie: the white house did release an outline of what the president plans to do with the healthcare policy if he were to win a second term. they have done things like reducing burdensome regulations

for lower drug prices and a whole host of other things rather than a large piece of legislation that increase prices as obamacare did for everybody and destroyed the private health insurance plan of millions of people, democrats think this is a win because healthcare is at the top of the list in terms of polling for american voters which is true, however, the president can easily remind them that under obamacare millions of people private insurance plans which they like were made illegal in his running mate senator harris believed for a moment in the primary that private insurance should be completely eliminated with the vast majority of people in the country like their insurance plan. when it comes to the supreme court in the issue of obamacare, it is a soundly written constitutional law the democrats should not have anything to worry about with whoever is sitting on the bench. you have to remember when chief justice john roberts voted in favor of obamacare being legal then when they argued it was

attacked during the obama administration, that was a surprise to conservatives who thought he would roll in the opposite direction. bottom line, they do not know and they are using the position as a political talking point on the campaign trail because they cannot stop the nomination of judge barrett. juan: let's pick up on katie's point, is this a talking point, if it is a talking point, how effective is it, what you just saw at the start of the segment, biden, schumer, pelosi all facing opposition to the judge on the healthcare that comes before the court one week after the election. dana: coronavirus and healthcare are biden's best issue set in president trump would be the economy and the courts in his legacy there in dealing with china. if you're looking at issues for the democrats, this would make a lot of sense, it would make a lot of sense for the trump administration to drop the lawsuit but they decided not to,

they didn't io instead and we have the president here. >> great to have you guys. yesterday i was very proud to nominate judge amy coney barrett to the united states supreme court, she was one of our nations most brilliant legal minds and she's doing very well and were moving along very quickly. tremendous unity in the republican party. it is a consequence of winning elections which we did very substantially. both in the senate and obviously in the white house. i think we are going to take back the house, i believe that very strongly and kevin is doing a fantastic job. i really believe we will take back the house. we are all working very hard in that. we have noticed some comments made in the media about my incredibly qualified nominee, amy. the new york times said her religion is not consistent with american values. she is catholic.

it covers a lot of people it's a very disgraceful thing to say. some of the comedian, i don't think the comedians, they're supposed to be funny, they're not funny at all, they're nasty and name are mean and they think they're funny. and someday hopefully in five years, but someday they will be off television because their ratings are good anyway but they will go down like you have never seen before. and that includes a lot of others also. in fact i am waiting for the new york times and the washington post and abc, cbs, nbc, cnn, msdn see, i am waiting for them to endorse me. because if they don't then they are going to drop and it was supposed to of happened long ago and they won a race in it was a

great victory and i think we have never had a more energized vote. nobody has ever seen anything like it. they are incredible, we call them protest, they are friendly protest because we don't want to call them rallies. but the friendly protest rallies have been incredible. people, i don't think of anybody has seen anything like it. this is long before the election, this is not like the evening before, this is long before the election, the incredible crowd that we had in pennsylvania and virginia. in every state, no matter where, north carolina. florida, no matter where we go we are having crowds like nobody, i don't think anybody has ever gone before ever, not even close. a level of enthusiasm, i went today with attractors, thousands of tractors in different states, the boats, thousands and thousands of boats, tractors for trump, farmers for trump, it is

been very nice to see the level of enthusiasm. i thought on the religious situation that we may have to settle this 60 years ago with the election of john f. kennedy, but seriously they are going after her catholicism, i will stand with her, fight with her and we will make sure that these attacks, not because they are basically fighting a major religion in our country, this is incredible, fighting any religion, fighting catholicism is just incredible but they can be doing it. are you catholic? 29 supreme court vacancies have occurred during an election year or before an inauguration in every single instance going back to george washington the president has performed his constitutional duty and nominated a justice and almost every one of these cases over the past 230 years where the

president and the senate were at the same party, the justice as you know the justice was confirmed, this is about two centuries more than two centuries of precedent and i think it will continue, i think it is going to go quickly actually and again, i don't know if i've ever seen the republican party more unified. it was probably more unified with impeachment hoax actually. when they did the impeachment hoax, that really turned out to be a hoax. now you look at what is happening with the fbi and justice department and if you look at all of those text messages, e-mails that were se sent, we have been totally proven right. they spied on our campaign and everybody knew it. biden knew it, obama knew it, everybody knew it. in the mainstream media does not want to pick it up, i will say catherine at cbs has done a

fantastic job on it, we appreciate that. but this is a major scandal, this is a scandal that likes it which nobody has ever seen the biggest political scandal in the history of our country. with the exception of a few, they just do not want to write about it, you should write about that kelli, you should write about it, you should do something on cnn about it, it's a biggest single scandal of our time, certainly the biggest political scandal perhaps in history. they spied on our campaign and then they tried for a coup, that did not work out well. and it turned out that you read the text that it came out over the last few days, it turned out that it was reversed, the dnc and the democrats that were using russia and related or unrelated, hunter biden got three and a half million dollars

from the wife of the mayor of moscow, why did he get three and a half million dollars, then he got millions more on the attack from ukraine and millions more that we heard about from china. hunter biden, where is hunter, these are questions that are very, very big on the internet, the biggest thing going on the internet is exactly this and were gonna have to see how everything turns out, turned out that we were right, to a half years of ruining people's lives like general flynn and many others in it turned out to be just the opposite, it was the democrats were dealing with russia and other things. hopefully our attorney general and others working on this very, very hard, very diligently will lead to something that will be very important for a nation. it is very important for a nation, one of the most important things. a central issue of the 2018

midterm elections was kavanaugh confirmation in american voters tarnish the democrats in the senate, you saw what happened, we picked up two seats. something that has not been reported on very much. we picked up two seats for the treatment of justice kavanaugh and expanded our senate majority to confirm the supreme court justices which was great. now democrats are really brazenly attacking judge barrett for again her faith, mostly is what i'm hearing for her catholic faith and weathers diane feinstein or anybody else, i think they would treat religion with much more respect, it's a disgrace that they can do it, biden and the democrats are desperate to distract from the real issues which is that their party has been taken over by socialist, extremist and probably communist, i think it's

beyond socialism, it is a step beyond and could be many steps beyond if you take a look. and if they win, they will nominate justices who will destroy the american way of life, the american dream, they will destroy the american dream, they will destroy america, the united states of america. your private right to own a firearm will be totally eliminated, your guns will be compensated, your ability to live by your religious faith will be devastated, they will abolish america's borders and do government healthcare to illegal aliens which will destroy our healthcare system because so many people will pour into our country, that's a tremendous incentive. on voter fraud, as you know hopefully they will not be a very big movement because hopefully we will be, i think we have the massive movement, i think were going to have a

tremendous victory that will be a transition because i cannot imagine we college transition if we were and they talk about will there be a friendly transition, course and will, we have a big problem and you see every day, you see happening every day with ballots. we are greatly concerned about the democrat assault on election integrity, and brooklyn 25% of mailing ballots, and june's democrat primary, you saw that. in the special election in new jersey, 20% of the ballots were thrown out and for people are now being prosecuted for fraud. you saw in the mail and ballots, 35000 mailing ballots were rejected in florida's primary and 100,000 were rejected in california and that is just the beginning. the week after pennsylvania's primary, half of the counties were still counting ballots and you will be counting them here because this is a much bigger version of all of that.

last week a number of discarded military ballots were discovered in pennsylvania, all of the recovered ballots, these were ballots that were thrown out. had been cast for a person named donald j trump, and wisconsin, three trays of mail containing absentee ballots were found in a ditch, thrown in a ditch, three trays, that is a lot. in north carolina voters are reporting seen to ballots in the mail, many voters, here it is thousands but they are getting to ballots. i wonder if those are democrat areas. in iowa caucuses last winter, you know what happened there, you all reported on a very well. you remember that. it was not good. but in iowa, we know who the winner was, they called 70 eventually but it was many, many weeks later. but they really have no idea it's being continuing to be, it's literally in iowa.

, they cannot run a simple caucus, now they're trying to write up election laws nationwide just before the presidential election, i heard in new york today that governor cuomo wants to try and simplify the ballots because he thinks there too complicated. and all of that i agree with him, i think that is good but you don't do that now, the ballots are starting to come in, you cannot do it now, it is too late. joe biden in the democrat extremist supports all the efforts to ensure election integrity to oppose voter id, think of it, voter id, they want a picture, they have a picture for almost everything but they do not want a picture, yet a picture to get into the democrat national convention. yet a card with your picture on it. did you know that fellas, to get into the democratic national convention you have a card with your picture on it. very sacred rights.

they want proof of citizenship, social security number required, they don't want any of this to happen and they want no signature verification, they don't want to have a verified signature. they want none of the safety that you and i have, they oppose voter id, they have -- oppose proof of citizenship. they oppose a social security number and requirements for social security numbers and they oppose even simple signature verifications, they don't want have signature verification. they want to require all states to do mail and balloting, i call it unsolicited, some people call it universal, i think universal does not make sense because nobody understands white universal, it's unsolicited.

there unsolicited mail in voting, you just send these ballots to whatever you can think of. we had a case in new jersey where somebody was sent to ballots and one had a - in it the name and the other had ak, they had three names. and i wonder if that person was a democrat, probably was. in mailing millions of ballots to people who never asked for them. so millions of people will be getting mail and ballots i did not ask for them, they did not want them, maybe they did, maybe they didn't, nobody knows really. this is a recipe for chaos, if you look at what happened in iowa, that was one by very smart people, limited election, very small numbers we are talking about, they are talking about doing that for the entire nation. you can forget about novembe november 3rd period they will be counting these things forever. it's very dangerous for our country. certainly transition, we all

believe in transition, not only transition but when the ballots in the system is rigged which it is obviously it is, the only one that knows that better than me as a democrat, they ago into close rooms and then they laugh like hell what's going on. because these ballots, this is the beginning, i talked about at the rallies, all the people are watching, eyes and ears, thousands and thousands, tens of thousands. but no justification for these extreme changes to the election law. if you can go to the grocery store, you can have a 90 with your picture on it, to vote is so important. a lot of things are going on, very important when you do your reporting, i think you're going to report on the fbi scandal because it's one of the great scandals in the history of our country.

and i think people want to hear about it, if you look at the internet, you will see how people want to hear about it. and they all know about it. it just makes the media look so bad and there is so much reporting, i can go into it right now but i'm not going to do it. it would be a tremendous thing for the mainstream media to have the reporting, i think your meeting to go through the roof, people really tired of the fake stuff that you don't even talk about. the biggest scandal, certainly the biggest political scandal in the history of the country by far. bigger than watergate, much bigger than watergate. and they try to avoid as much as possible. it is getting very hard to avo avoid, we will take a couple of questions and you may have a question from these two very wonderful people, brilliant people from the standpoint of politics i would say and the law. and if you have anything for kayleigh mcenany we would like to do that.

>> last wednesday when you were speaking to the attorney general you said that you hope to federal judges were watching what was going on with the ballots, do you hope that amy coney barrett is watching as well. >> i do i'm sure she is, i think everyone is, i think we made a very big issue and it's an issue that the democrats tried to get away with. so many reports now in so many ballots, i don't know that they have been reported before but all of these rallies with thousands of people last night as you know and harrisburg pennsylvania, the night before we were in virginia, those crowds, 35000 or 30000, those crowds are massive. that's on very short notice. all of those people are watching, we have eyes and ears that we would not have had if we did not bring it up. i am sure she is watching and i'm sure everybody is looking at it. i think it is common sense.

>> a quick follow-up, did you discuss the election with her ? >> no did not. >> would it be appropriate. >> i watched over the years as president with think of you and talk and make a decision within supreme court justice, i'm surprised they would not talk about various things like roe v wade, they don't think it's important to talk about it, i don't know if it's appropriate but i've gone by the custom. >> the kuester, democrats are arguing that acv puts in the danger not only roe v wade but a number of decisions, do you think they are correct? >> no, i think she's going to rule on the law and she's going to be a great justice for many years to come. but i can say they also bring up healthcare, obamacare is terrible, it does not work, we

made the best of it and we got rid of the individual mandate which is great, we protect people with pre-existing conditions 100%. but if we can and obamacare and come up with a much better healthcare system that is much cheaper, much cheaper and much better which is what we will do, on the other hand if the court rules against, we will manage the system better, don't forget, we already essentially got rid of obamacare because we got rid of the individual mandate and it was all based on that. so we have done a tremendous amount because the individual mandate was the most unpopular aspect of obamacare, you do pay a lot of money for the privilege of not paying for bad healthcare. so that was a terrible thing for people. what we will do if we are fortunate enough to get rid of the little remaining in obamacare, individual mandate,

that was the central point and we won that, we already one that as you know. by getting rid of that, it's a must enter much different thing. they have manage, here's the story, it is no good, it's too expensive, it's full coverage you don't get your doctor, you don't get your plan, all the things that president obama said you do not get. and biden too, i don't know if he has any understanding of it. you don't get your doctor, 48 times present obama said you get your doctor in your plan and it turned out to be alive. here's what we are doing, they can terminate, we will have a much better plan and you will have your doctor, your plan and a lot of things that you do not get with obamacare. >> you said this numerous times, do you really believe that joe biden will be on any performance-enhancing drug ahead of the debate or are you joking. >> no joking unwilling to take a drug test and i think you should too.

i watched him with some -- when he was debating pocahontas and harris who treated him so badly. but i watched him and he was out of it, then i watched him against bernie sanders and he was okay, he was not great but he was not terrible, he was okay. a far cry from the way, you know what i am saying, you look at some of those debates, i said there is no way he can continue, he cannot continue and then all the sudden he debated sanders and the truth is he was okay. and i said how did he go from there with the horrible performances to where he was okay, i always joke but he was no winston churchill and debating but he was fine. people said he was on performance-enhancing drugs. a lot of people have said that, a lot of people have written that.

take a look, check out the internet. you will see, plenty of people say it. whether he is or not does not matter but i would love to take a test and he can take a test to. >> before the debate, obviously it's coming up, how are you preparing, is somebody playing joe biden in the debate with you are you doing prep at all. >> these two gentlemen have been helping. >> who plays biden for you. >> i would say making a combination of these two in either one of them is about five times smarter than sleepy joe but we had a little debate prep before we came here. i think this whole thing is the debate prep, i do it every day, taking questions from you people all the time, i've taken a lot of questions for you over the last number of years. and he does not. i watch the way he was treated on ms pnc on friday, he didn't

live, it was disgraceful, it was an embarrassment i know her and she's a pretty tough reporter and the way she was helping him along, so obvious what was going on, she was helping him, she was getting him a question and helping them to answer the question, i know her very well she does not do that, it was embarrassing and people don't talk about it, play some of the clips and those answers the answers were he was not able to give an answer and she is pushing him, they never do that with me, i tell you but i don't have the kind of problems he has. >> how many hours would you say? >> a lot of time, not a lot, i'm running a country, i don't have the luxury i watched other people over the years, i watched him fairly recently not too long ago going to a cabin, lock himself into a cabin and he came out was not effective, he had so many things going on, sometimes you can go too much into that

stuff, sometimes you can go too much. i've never debated before but then i debated a lot four years ago and if you look at the pol polls, those polls are coming out, hundreds of thousands of people in time magazine and all of the different polls, i think it was seven or eight of them, according to the polls i want every sige single debate. this is the polls. you had time magazine poll, you had this and that, i guess they take them off the internet and you get phone calls or something. but according to the i want every debate. and i felt that i did. but i understand the subject, chris is tough, i hope you will be equally tough on joe biden but i watched the lady, i will not say her name, it was

embarrassing the way she was getting him alone, i asked the question about drugs, because you cannot have a president that needs that kind of help. >> if you do have a president that needs that kind of help when you got a deal with putin and president sheet o presidentd kim jong-un in one week after it came to be president, they thought it was going to happen immediately. no war. that is saving perhaps millions of lives, they were saying 50000, no millions and millions of people could have died. >> everybody has talked about the new york times story that came an hour ago that when you came into the white house you are paying $750 a year in federal income tax, they are not publishing the tax turf, they are not showing that out there,

to protect their sources, and your tax returns does that sound right you are paying a couple hundred dollars year. >> that is fake news that is totally fake news, made-up, fa fake, we will do the same stories you can ask me the same question four years ago i had to litigate this and talk about it. totally fake news. actually i pay tax, you will see that as soon as my tax returns, it's under audit, it's been under audit for a long time, the irs does not treat me well, they treat me like the tea party and they never treat me well, they treat me very badly. you have people in the irs, they treat me very, very badly but they are under audit. and when they are not i will be proud to show it. that is fake news, the new york times tried the same thing, they want to create a little story, do anything they can, not only that that's the least of it. the stories that i read are so

fake. >> do you know when this will come out today. >> no did not. >> i think somebody said they were going to do negative stories. they always do negative stories. anyways used to get good stories from the near times when i ran for office used to be conservative republican. i don't think we've had a good story they predict in my lost four years ago and now apologize for the bad reporting. then they predicted the fbi in all of these things, is proven to be a hoax a complete hoax, they got pulitzer prize along with the washington post, they can give all of those back because everything was wrong, there reporter was so bad, it was exactly the opposite, the people that should get pulitzer prize they are not in the business but sean hannity got it right, lou dobbs, laura, tucker got it right, summoning people that got it right.

i don't know what they get other than a great salary and great ratings. >> jordan go ahead. >> on the new york times story, you have to understand that americans read that you may have paid only a few hundred dollars in federal income tax per year, that seems very low for someone who is a billionaire. >> basically here saying they had nothing. >> basically -- first of all i paid a lot of paid a lot of state income taxes two, the new york state charges a lot and i paid a lot of money at stake. it will all be revealed, it's going to come out they are doing the assessment, we've been negotiating for a long time, things get settled like an irs right now in your under audit, you do not do that, we are under audit but the story is a total fake and all of this, we have

the same exact questions asked by the same people and that took place four years ago, this was so well litigated, it is incredible. if you look at the filings that i have, and 108 pages of filings for all of these companies that do very well, obviously because the filings, nobody talks about that. you will learn much more if you look at the filings. we have to file every single year. you would learn much more if you look at the filings. their complete, very big and very powerful. they are very accurate. those are the filings that you will learn much more, when it is done, when you are under audit, you just do not release them. again they treat me, they treat me. >> what in japan federal taxes. >> i am talking to him, you should be more respectful of this gentleman, you are very rude to him. i look forward to releasing