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i'll be in cleveland, as always, we hope you set your dvr at 9:00 eastern on fox news channel. just one of three. this will be bigger than the super bowl. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingram is next. predictions for tomorrow? >> laura: biden will have a few tricks up his sleeve. there will be a few tricks and i think wily old trump will have a few tricks as well. all i know, sean, is that at midnight, midnight, i follow you, so we're rolling really late. >> sean: we'll be rolling. we're on later so we'll have to ask our audience to stay up a little later tomorrow night. >> laura: that's fine. they will be doing tequila shots. >> sean: i'll be watching you, you follow me. have great night. >> laura: i will. from washington tonight in the
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last 24 hours white house covid adviser dr. scott atlas has come under attack from both dr. anthony fauci and cdc director scott redfield. tonight dr. atlas is here exclusively to respond. also, raymond arroyo brings us the latest dunk and cover games from the biden camp including a new tactic from jill. seen and unseen explains, plus the blm and critical race theory movement has officially become a financial scam. we knew it would head that way. the numbers and names behind the racket. but first, how to debate joe bidein? that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> laura: when chris wallace welcomes the candidates to the debate stage tomorrow night we'll finally see what we've been waiting for. a spirited back and forth between trump and biden on the
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most important issues facing us as a country. let's go through them one by one. first, on our covid response, now, we all know that joe biden was against the president's decision to shut down travel to china, which undoubtedly saved a lot of lives. and that the obama administration's response to h1n1 was a flop and that's according to their own staff. >> we did every possible thing wrong. 60 million americans got h1n1 and it's purely a casualty of not doing everything right. having to do with luck. >> laura: what? biden's main argument is going to be that we've lost more than 204,000 americans due to a pandemic that president trump didn't and still doesn't take seriously. >> the president still does not have a plan. well, i do.
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if i'm your president, on day one, we'll implement the national strategy i've been laying out since march. >> laura: okay. let's stop right there. when biden says national strategy what does he really mean? he can't mean more tests because we do more than any other country. can't mean ppe because we have a glut of ventilators and he can't mean on the vaccine development front because operation warp speed is unprecedented. so what biden really means is, along with a national mask mandate, he's going to lock down america foror most of next yearr just whenever his experts tell him to. >> would you be prepared to shut this country down again? >> i would be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives. >> so if the scientists say shut it down -- >> i would shut it down. i would listen to the scientists. >> laura: what scientists are we
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talking about? which ones, joe? and how will the biden administration's strict lockdown be enforced? have you thought about that? we see what's happened in other cities across the globe, like check out melbourne, australia. >> mayhem at the market. >> coming face-to-face with police, tackled to the ground and forced into custody. linking arms they blocked traffic and forced the public and or response team to pluck protestors out one by one. >> laura: it's unbelievable but the fact is, this virus was a terrible tragedy, and we dealt with it better than any country in the g-7 because we didn't let it devastate our entire economy. which brings us to number two. the economy. now biden doesn't even bother trying to argue that he's going to raise your standard of living
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because he won't. the clear evidence shows that the trump policies of deregulation, keeping labor markets tight, tightening the screws on china, and renegotiating nafta produced phenomenal results for working americans. of course, we had record low unemployment for blacks and hispanics before the pandemic. we had record wage increases, from 2016 through 2019. medium rages rose to a record, an increase of $6,000. now, last year alone, it was up more than $4,000. now, even with the blue states that are slow to reopen, new home sales were near a 14-year high in august. amazing given what we've been through. now, biden will, of course, try to blur the lines on trump's economic successes with an assist from his pals at the "new york times." because their big scoop with pre-debate timing, of course, is that donald trump takes both
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business depreciation and business losses as tax deductions against income. thus in both 2016 and in 2017, he paid $750 in taxes. now, of course, the times did its best to put this in the worst possible light. yet it could not conclude any wrongdoing on the president's part. nevertheless, biden's resuscitation squad, they think your stupid and they had the headline they needed. >> he's worried if he's not reelected he could face jail time and be carried off like a lot of his personal associates. >> this is the smoking gun of a pervasive criminal presidency. >> i thought the president putting out bumper stickers, i pay more in taxes than trump. >> this is one of the most important stories in the past five years. >> laura: didn't he say that
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about vindman? dig a little deeper and it quickly falls apart. for starters the "times" article shows that trump has, in fact, paid tens of millions of dollars in federal income taxes. trump also coughed up $24.3 million due to the alternative minimum tax before finally for refund. now, trump would have paid a lot more in taxes, i love this, if it wasn't for the left's most legendary class warrior, barack obama. what am i talking about? buried in the "times" smear job is this little detail. until 2009 business losses could be used to wipe away taxes going back only two years. but that november, the window was more than doubled. in a bill mr. obama signed as part of the great recession recovery effort. so americans can believe that
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biden somehow isn't aware of his administration's position on business loss write-offs or has biden given speeches that individual business owners actually be taxed on their losses? i must have missed all of those speeches. now, in fact, the "new york times" piece confirmed what we all had thought all along that trump ran for president at great financial sacrifice. so much for the alleged amonthly. s clause violation. the hotel in d.c. lost 55.5 million through 2018 and zero evidence of any financial entanglements to the former soviet union. no russian collusion for the 900th time. so when biden raises the "new york times" piece, he opens the door for trump to hit his own son, who actually profitted from his dad's government position. hunter biden received $3.5
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million in a wire transfer from a russian billionaire while daddy was handling ukraine policy. the "times" didn't go there, of course. now, if this all feels familiar, that's because it is. because the "times" has published a bombshell using parts of trump's tax returns, financial records, every single year he's been in office. and every time they do, we find out the same thing. like billions of other american business owners, president trump used legal tax deductions and credit to offset his overall tax burden. at least he actually employed people, though. i was thinking about that what did biden actually do to earn, what was it, the $16 million he made in the two years after leaving office? on the issue of racial and antifa sponsored violence, that will be tackled tomorrow night, now, bide shouldn't be asked this. what would he do if left wing
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protestors filled lafayette park across from the white house? would he clear the park? or would he allow them to set up a permanent camp as they have done in portland? will biden commit to protected federal statues? including stay with us of thomas jefferson? how about andrew jackson? would biden protect mount rushmore? president trump's record is clear. he opposes violent protests and the desecration of public monuments. and for the issues of race and crime, biden supported the very crime bill that's triggered so many protests while the trump administration worked with congress to lessen the severity of sentences for key offenders. the whole trump campaign is about fighting for americans of all races while biden has traditionally sold out americans of all races. finally, biden has insulted the
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country by saying that it is systematically racist. he claims to want to exercise international leadership. why would anyone follow or help a country that is systematically racist? his own rhetoric makes it impossible for other countries to take him seriously. and finally, my favorite topic, on the supreme court. the constitution is clear and what's relevant here are not the wishes of justice ginsburg as much as we all want to honor her memory. what's relevant here are the wishes of tens of millions of americans who voted for president trump and also the republican senate. those voters have a right to have their wishes carried out until trump and those senators are out of office. the reality of the situation is that biden wants to put radicals on the court who would impose a heartless socio-ist agenda on
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the nation, but trump's judges respect the rule of law and they give power back to the people. biden claims this is about obama care but that's nonsense. if obama care is unconstitutional, it could be fixed by statute, but when left wingers oppose things -- no amount of letting -- legislating the adjust the issue. if you trust the hard left and want to give them free rein over the rest of us, you've got to go with biden. on all four topics, biden has major vulnerabilities. let's face it. for 40 plus years he's essentially been a professional debater while donald trump was out building businesses, some very successful, biden has been parked in d.c. getting veryers,t
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raising a lot of money and running for president three times. not a charm. tomorrow, we're going to see how the invisible candidate fares without the assistance of his j off stage when the questions get a little uncomfortable. i'll be watching and that's "the angle." joining me now is victor davis hampton, hoover institution and senior fellow. victor, i was thinking of this today. picking a president, it's kind of like picking someone to represent you in a negotiation so given biden hag played as a sucker for much of his career why the heck would anyone pick him to represent them? >> well, we're going to find out tomorrow night because the criticism against biden is he's running a 19th century william mckinley campaign from his front porch, virtual nonexistent candidate and he has a chance
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the show that's wrong so for 90 minutes he'll bely the impression that he's cognitively challenged or he has memory lapses, and it's very important because there is a whole generation of democrats, especially millions of young people, who don't know about old joe biden from scranton, laura. they haven't seen him. he's been nonexistent, the few times he's been on tv it's always in a scripted contempt -- context. if he stands there for 90 minutes and doesn't do what he's been doing in his taped and scripted interviews that will multiply to his advantage. on the other hand, if he says something like he's been in the senate for 180 years or 200 million people have died of covid or you ain't black, that will have a multiplying effect and the people will say, you know what? i've been had. this was a virtual con job. this guy has not been out and this is why. so it's up to him to dispel
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these impressions. the second thing is we don't know what he stands for. the impression has been that he's been a vessel of the left, so he's no longer a centrist if he ever was but he's carrying along these positions that are very radical, and perceived by the voters in the primary. bernie didn't get the nomination and corey booker and kamala harris and others crashed and burned but that sort of vampire-like experience has resurrected itself and now it's being carried forth by biden so he's got to say, you know what? this is what i believe on fracking. this is who i would support for the supreme court nomination. >> laura: victor -- >> if he doesn't do that it confirms again that impression that he's an empty vessel. >> laura: doesn't this all also demonstrate that they went with biden. they chose biden after all of this. and he's not up to campaigning. he's made a calculated decision that he thinks he's ahead in the polls. he can coast to november 3. show up at the debates.
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i never thought he was going to debate so i was wrong about that. it's tricky to pick someone, you know, at an advanced age who has obviously lost two or three steps. it's a risky deal but maybe he can pull a rabbit out of his hat for 90 minutes. by the way, pelosi gave a hint at how democrats might come after trump tomorrow on taxes. watch. >> what does putin have on the president politically, personally, financially, in every way, that the president would try to undermine our commitment to nato, give away the store to russia and syria. well, what's the connection? we'll see. >> laura: will victor make the same line of attack, do you think? >> probably. nancy pelosi said biden shouldn't debate. maybe she should debate in his place but she should know about taxes because remember she's third in line for the presidency and her husband is in the same business as donald trump where
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you have depreciation, tax incentives, losses, capital gains, property, very complex deal, and she won't release her tax returns because i think it would show the same up and down as donald trump and so she understands that better than anybody and that's why she's not releasing them, and she knows better than anything there is not much of an issue here because donald trump apparently hasn't done anything wrongs until the irs says he owes this or like newsom and he's delinquent on his property taxes. i don't think that will be an issue. the issue again will be, that joe biden is cognitively challenged -- >> sean: wie got to roll. >> trump virus the virus, trump versus the lookdown, trump versus the recession, trump versus the riots and i'm just sort of a bystander, that won't work and a lot of people will be cheated and angry that they were had by this surrogate candidate. >> sean: we've got to roll.
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i'm going to kill my next guest here, their time. now that president trump has officially nominated seventh circuit judge amy coney barrett to fill the empty supreme court seat of beginsburg the gop wants the process wrapped up by the end of act. that could mean a vote just before the election but top seated democrats are so oppose they refuse to even be in the same room as judge barrett. >> i have no intention of meeting with judge barrett because i simply refuse to treat this as really legitimate. >> i will not be meeting with her. i will take the opportunity to question her when she is under oath. >> the whole process has been illegitimate. i will not meet with her. >> laura: joining me now is a long-time friend of judge barrett and director of the center for ethics and culture.
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carter, are they afraid to meet her because they might end up actually liking her? is that part of this? >> she's kind of hard not to like. >> it remind me of what people say about justice thomas. if you don't want to like him you better never meet him because it's an extraordinary thing to be in the presence of terrific people. she exudes charisma, decency, intelligence, it's impossible to deny it if you actually have to talk to her. >> laura: i had the privilege of being at the white house on saturday. i think you were there, were you there? i can't remember if you were this. i saw you from a distance. and i got -- i actually got tiered up watching her and her family. the occasion obviously so momentous, but it also made me sad for the country, because we used to have confirmation hearings that respected the role of the judiciary, and they were quite lopsided for the most
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part. until bourg and then everything that followed so that part of it was sad. but her family story and her own story is a beautiful one. >> very much so. i mean, her talk about the friendship between her mentor, justice scalea and justice ginsburg was a beautiful reminder of how things used to be in terms of people who disagreed with each other didn't hate each other, and to where we are now where the senators won't even meet with her. it's quite a transition that we've seen since the bourg days and brett kavanaugh's terrible experience as well. >> laura: the associated press, i believe we're going to put up a tweet on the screen, which i was shocked by, and i can't read it because it's too far away, but, yeah, she has close ties to a charismatic christian group that holds men as divinely
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ordained and basically subjugating women. that's the import of the tweet. this is where they are going on. this this is where they have been going, you know. she's about to be confirmed, i'm going to get ahead of myself on the supreme court but she's obviously submissive to her husband because of a membership of a devout group. >> it seems obvious that her husband jesse must have commanded her to become a supreme court justice in their household. it's really, honestly i've known this family for 15 years and if anybody is subjugating the family -- the idea that this lovely group of people and people of praise, who are here in south bend, they run the best school in town, they run a great school, in falls church, virginia, where you live, they are just normal nice, decent, friendly sweet, sweet people and the idea that this isda vinci is
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laughable if the stakes weren't so high. >> laura: traditional americans, love people, love the constitution, in other words, to the left, it's a total nightmare. it's great to see you tonight. thank you for joining us. and while sunriadvising preside trump, they have come under attack. dr. atlas, his response. stay with us. go go go ♪ go go go go on a real vacation. visit go rving.com or your nearest rv dealer.
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>> ♪ >> laura: cdc >> laura: c.d.c. director robert redfield who has his own history of bungled communications is reportedly taking out his frustration on the newest covid task force member. in a telephone call overheard, he allegedly lashed out against him saying everything he says is false. according to nbc redfield suggested that atlas was giving trump -- >> late tonight, dr. fauci decided to join in on the atlas bashing. >> the cdc director is concerned that dr. atlas is sharing misleading information with president trump. are you also concerned about
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that happening? >> well, yeah. i'm concerned that sometimes things are said that are really taken either out of context or actually incorrect. >> are the medical voices on the task force working together or working against each other? >> well, most are working together. i think, you know, what the outliers are. >> and we welcome to our show apparently the outlier. white house covid adviser dr. scat atlas joins me now to respond. dr. atlas, thank you for joining us tonight. i thought having opposing voices is part of the kind -- it's kind of the part of the scientific process, is it not? especially about an issue that has so many tentacles coming out of it like this covid deal. why are they so threatened by you? >> well, you know, thanks, laura, for having me. this is all, if what that says was really said, it's all about
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delegitimizing the president and feeding into some kind of a false narrative that the president doesn't listen to the science or the scientists. because the reality is, i i was called in because i can translate the medical science into public policy and i advise the president to do things like, which he's doing, which is to do everything he can to protect the vulnerable, to open schools and open society and to make sure hospitals are not overcrowded. of course, this is the right policy. it may not be the policy that everyone agrees with but it happens to be exactly the policy in concert with most -- many of the world's leading epidemiologists and infectious disease people like doctors at harvard, stanford, gupta at oxford university. i think that's pretty good company for the president. he clearly listens to a lot of people. he understands in a very common sense way what the science shows
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and what should be done to save the american, really american lives and that's why i'm here. i'm not here to make friends. i mean, there are certain experts that say what i just said which is vulnerable people protection and save lives by also opening up society safely and there are other experts that say things like, no, you shouldn't wear masks, yes, should you wear masks, so hey, a mask is better than a vaccine, or some other expert might say, no, you shouldn't wear a mask and then change yes, we should wear a mask, oh, everyone should wear goggles, you're not going to hear me say that but the president has a choice of experts to listen to. >> laura: dr. fauci doesn't think the u.s. is headed right now in the right direction. watch. >> you said the u.s. needed to get to 10,000 cases per day to be -- to get some control over this virus. right now, we're averaging more than 40,000 new cases a day. how would you describe where we are as a nation right now? >> well, we're not in a good
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place with regard to what i had said -- >> laura: the cdc released new data that showed er visit for covid are nearly back to the baseline from a year ago. now, er visits for influenza-like illnesses are below baseline from a year ago. deaths from pneumonia, influenza, covid-19, almost back to the seasonal baseline. so this is data. that's the cdc's own data. >> that's right. >> laura: where is the disconnect? i'm not a scientist. i'm not trying to be but i can read a graph pretty well, so what are the people missing? >> well, you know, there is more data that corroborates what you said which is that hospitalizations are down to the lowest level since march for covid. that's per week, are down something like 50% from the peak in july, and very low down toward what it was in march and
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april, before the peak in march-april, and just like you said, sick people coming to the emergency room are down to something like 1.6% of all e.r. visits, so yes, there is a lot of things going right and i think, yes, we'll see more cases, especially if you test on college campuses, we just put in another 50,000 cases which are really the people at that age do not have a significant problem typically with this. but if you start looking at states that are opening like north dakota, south dakota, the virus had not been there before, and so we're going to get cases. the key here is the cases are not the most important metric. that's thinking back in march when we didn't know what we were doing. now we know that most people don't have a significant problem here. the key is protect the high-risk people so that people don't die. do everything you can, double down like the president did with his announcement about these very state-of-the-art tests being sent to senior seniors, not just nursing homes but all
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seniors trying to protect them from people who come in with an infection, or to stop hospitals from overcrowding which we do not have, and to open society because prolonged lockdowns are destroying families, actually killing people, from getting medical care. that's why i'm here because public policy counts for the virus as well as the policy. >> laura: they want you out. dr. atlas, they want you out. you're the skunk of the picnic, okay? they want you gone. they had their little thing going. >> i've been told that before, laura. >> laura: it's a stanford thing, you wouldn't understand. just one -- one final thing. this is from the cdc today. i guess their new guidelines for the holiday season. no fun is allowed. the cdc is recommending against attending thanksgiving parades indoor gatherings but then it continues, going to pumpkin patches and orchids where hand sanitizer is used, masks are
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worn, and social distancing is kept, are also moderately risky so no pumpkin patch either this year, dr.allast, apparently, according to the cdc. >> i can't really speak to the cdc's listings. that's dr. redfield's domain and sometimes they put things up and change them. sometimes they put up listings and take them down. i'm not sure how long it will be up there but i think it's appreciate to use social mitt gay, handwashing, we have to do everything we can to protect the venerable particularly when there are a lot of cases so we should take it seriously. it's very dangerous for people in the high-risk category but i'm not sure if pumpkin patches themselves are considered high-risk. >> laura: dr. atlas, it's so great to see you tonight. thank you so much. coming up, biden calls another early -- he gets exposed for lying about his college record, that's all. all the details next. for
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>> ♪ >> laura: it's time for our seen and unseen segment where we reveal the stories behind the headlines. 36 days before an election biden is back in hiding with no public events. for details on the biden strategy and the debate pitfalls we're joined by raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. raymond, i've got to get your reaction to this interview with jill biden and cnn, socially distanced jake -- >> your husband has been known to make the occasional gaffe. >> oh, you can't even go there. after donald trump you cannot even say the word gaffe. >> i can't say the word gaffe? >> no. no. done. it's gone. >> the gaffe issue is over. >> over. so over. >> laura, you can't do follow-ups, i guess, it's a real
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problem at this point. i think he was in west virginia trying to ask the question and she couldn't hear hill. gaffes are the least of joe bide president's problems. it's a mental decline. you see evidence of a mental decline. this is an interview he did over the weekend with stephanie at msnbc, watch. >> paycheck protection act. one percent of the money is gone out. one percent. one percent of the -- not the paycheck -- the bill for major -- small business -- one percent has gone out. >> main street lending. >> laura: no, no, i thought she was going to do like hand puppets or something to try to talk to him like -- she should get like two little puppets that talk back and forth. that would be clearer. >> laura, i was delighted to see visiting angels is expanding their available services. it's nice to see they are
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helping with completing thoughts. >> laura: it's america's home healthcare. raymond, i understand that we have secured some exclusive video of the biden debate prep. what is it? >> yeah. this is a mock video, just a mock video, watch closely. >> where the hell is the teleprompter? i can't see with it these damn glasses on. how can i give good answers if i can't read them? >> he's working hard, laura. >> laura: wait a second. biden has actual teeth. so i don't understand that puppet. like two teeth. >> i don't either. >> laura: but raymond there is a risk here because, you know, you have been cataloging all of these lapses of joe biden. what if he comes out tomorrow and he's like, he's like, you know, on his game. >> that's what he has to do tomorrow. not only does he have to clearly communicate his agenda, he has to do it coherently, and, jill
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biden is trying to wipe away the gaffes. it's not gaffes. it's an inability to complete thought and the american people for the first time, i think, will going to be watching joe biden closely. remember, laura, he did not perform well in the gnc debates throughout the season. in the primary in iowa he came in fourth. in new hampshire he came in fifth. bernie had 47 percent. his performances are not great in debates and if you need a reminder, try this one. >> play the radio, make sure -- make sure you have the record player on at night. the phone. make sure the kids hear words. >> go to joe -- 303030 and help me in this fight. no man has a right to raise the hand to a woman in anger. keep punching at it and punching at it and punching at it. >> laura: all right, raymond. we mentioned before that biden
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has some problems. this extends to even basic ones like where he went to school because this is something he has mentioned repeatedly. >> hbcu's, i got started out of an hbcu. delaware state. i don't want to hear anything negative about delaware state. they are my folks. >> there is only one problem, laura. he didn't attend delaware state. they came out with a statement today, carlos holmes, who works for the university, he said vice president biden did not attend dsu. however, he was a commencement speaker in 2003 and 2016 and he got an honorary doctoral degree. i guess he's confusing the doctorate with actually graduating from the university. >> laura: that's a very deep, deep connection. now, before we let you go, you're in scranton for a special event tomorrow night. what are you doing? >> we're going to have a debate watch party from joe biden's hometown with uncommitted voters
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and committed voters. we'll get their instant reaction tomorrow night on "the angle." i can't wait for this. >> laura: make sure you're as distant as jill was. 20 feet. >> it will be in scranton. i'll be in new york city. >> laura: at midnight, we're on at midnight. is that the witching hour? i don't think that's good for me. raymond, thank you so much. bye. still ahead, intellectuals on the left are using critical race seminars to raise millions from corporations and taxpayers. exposing them, do not go away.
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>> laura: while >> laura: the overall reaction to trump's tax return has dominated the news cycle there is an actual scandal that's playing out among the newly bock wok set. those pushing critical race theory are bilking americans, most guilt ridden white billionaires of hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars. where is all the money going? in many cases toward promoting hateful propaganda. just last month twitter's ceo jack dorsey forked over $10
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million to a man named abram x, and his "anti-racist research" at boston university. beyond the fact that he doesn't deliver on much of anything he brochett profits on disseminating hate. he accused -- of being a white supremacist for the crime of adopting two children from haiti. some white colonizers adopted black children. using them as props in their lifelong pictures of denial. nice. joining me is the executive producer of infidel and trump cart. full disclosure, i adopted three children internationally. how do folks like -- end up becoming so influential at the time they are so hateful? >> well, first of all, they have
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got a really great shakedown operation that involves government money. it involves corporate money. it involves foundation money. it involves university money, and so in exchange for all this, they have to produce some output. and so he's making this amazing claim. first, a historical claim which is flat out wrong, that in colonial times it was customary for colonizers to somehow raid and appropriate, kind of take over these black and brown children and "civilize them in the ways of the white man," thus cutting them off from their own culture and their own parents. so to take a particular example which i know about india, where there are a lot of british couples that sort of took over indian kids and made them their own and then civilized them in the ways of the white man, first of all, i don't believe there is a single such case. but even if there were this was extremely rare. this is hardly part of the normal practice of colonialism, and then, what does this have to do with amy coney barrett?
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did the barrett's put on safari suits and go down to with haiti and force them into the ways of the white man? this is absurd. you have a very poor country which has been the victim of one calamity after another from familiar minutes to earthquakes, clintons, and then, you have all these kids who are abandoned, orphans and the barrettes have taken two kids, given them a lovely home, so instead of adoption you get this racial attack on skamdz and it's the product of a demented theory that's very well funded these days in academia. >> laura: critical race theory. i need to get to project veritas, they claimed to have uncovered a voter fraud ring in minneapolis related to congressman ilhan omar. woman il.
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>> who is filling out the absentee ballots? >> people who work with omar. >> where do they pay the money? >> they sign it and that's who you can pay. >> laura: we're working on confirming some of these details but tonight the minneapolis police department is investigating. so you've got about 15 seconds, total media blockout on this story. imagine if the shoe were on the other foot? >> it's almost as if, if you're a muslim, black, from the desert, if you're a woman you somehow think you can claim immunity from the normal practice of laws that applies to everybody else. >> laura: doesn't work that way. thank you so much. still ahead, last bite and it's a good one. don't forget your lunch! i'm making pizza on king's hawaiian mini subs. yum! king's hawaiian.
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of us yet for all the lies about russia? >> it's not known to us yet, no. i mean, all roads as speaker pelosi said, all roads lead to putin. >> laura: i liked him better when he was flap. that's all the time we have tonight. do you get reference? join us tomorrow at midnight for a special coverage. take it off from here, shannon.
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