>> the sure to catch up october 7th for special coverage of the vice presidential debate in utah. >> i will see you at 7:00 eastern. sean hannity is up next. >> i am the democratic party right now. >> are you willing to tell the american people, ending the filibuster or packing the court. radical left. >> a lot more will diameter gets a lot smarter. >> 47 months -- >> i paid millions of dollars. >> talks about the art of the

deal. >> it is hard to get anywhere. >> he didn't know. >> i don't support the green new deal. ♪ >> a fiery first 2020 presidential debate. you are watching "fox and friends". >> a tough shift to watch something the begins at 9 and ends at 11. >> from the pandemic and the economy to law and order but the supreme court. >> live team coverage.

and >> in cleveland a recap of the night's big moments. don't know we gave you time to break down. >> i will give it a try. it was chaotic and personal. and they managed to address those issues facing the country to race relations, supreme court and healthcare. >> he said he didn't tell us or give people a warning of it because he didn't want to panic the american people. you know panic. the country would have been left wide open, millions would have died, it is china's fault. >> it is all set up. >> by easter this would be gone away the warm weather it would be gone miraculously like a miracle.

>> people like this would rather make it political and save lives. >> with the impact of covid-19, and it came up. >> the issue is the american people, you should come out and vote. let people know. the question -- >> radical left. who is on your list? >> there was biden not answering the question. election integrity. >> this will be a fraud like you've never seen. we might not know for month. these ballots will be all over. >> are you counting on the supreme court including that to settle any dispute? >> we will look at the ballots.

>> it still should be counted, afraid of counting the boats -- notes. >> getting a lot of attention the president's review to denounce white supremacy when talking about law and order. >> you are afraid to even say it? >> law and order. >> what you want to call them. >> >> >> >> and -- >> it was quite a night. 's two candidates attacking each other, the first in the history book, the candidates back on the campaign trail.

biden taking a train towards pennsylvania while the president has another rally in minnesota. shannon: thanks. heather: this debate sway undecided voters? karl rove says he doesn't think so. >> it was not edify or lightning to the viewers. trump as president, biden is vice president, neither spent much time talking about forward-looking vision. his climate plan, and there was no consistency on the part of either one of them. >> real clear politics average showing joe biden with a 6 point edge over donald trump. we will see if those polls change over the next few days. jillian: the best and worst reach candidate.

heather: great to have you here. producers, soundbite montages, good moments and other moments. the candidates for president did an okay job expressing their points. >> the green new deal they want to take out the cows. >> 750 and of thousands, were dying. when presented with that number he said it is what it is. because you are who you are. >> what did each candidate do well. >> there wasn't much great about this debate, could be one of the worst presidential debates in televised american history. a couple moments where the strongest parts were for biden were sticking to the message on covid-19 and did a good job redirecting to his attacks on

donald trump's handling, and donald trump had a couple strong answers, on the law and order section where it was clear if you care about violence in the streets, stuff going on now and trump was your guy. the nuanced answer on climate change which many people expected and people painted biden into a corner, split up his base, to allow more moderate stance that would upset the left or vice versa but overall there wasn't all that much left in this debate. jillian: more interesting moments. some would argue there worst moments on defense.

refusing to answer a question about packing the courts. >> we built the greatest economy when the plague came in, closed it down which is hard psychologically to do. >> are you willing to tell the american people whether you will support packing the court? >> no law enforcement, name one group that supports you. >> we don't have time. other debates where joe biden was trying to deflect a little bit. >> those are the worst moments for joe biden when he was asked a question and answer, the idea of having more than 9 justices on the supreme court, if joe biden doesn't have support from any major law enforcement group that is concerning, that definitely was biden's lowest

moment. for the president he didn't get much of a chance to talk about the economy. the moderator and joe biden kept him focused on other issues and he was counterpunching and counterattacking and bickering with biden or than getting a positive message about the last four years and that is why so many people came out of the debate disappointed. they didn't hear much about positive results and positive plans, the mature one. the material want to lead us away from the controversial communication style that joe biden out there, more than trump insulted him. we don't have an adult in the room despite their senior age. when it comes to the american people and undecided voters looking for someone to lead the nation in a calm collected way,

the reaction from people who already don't have a candidate is disappointment and disengagement. if you're and undecided voter, you don't want to vote and that is sad. jillian: a lot to break down, we will talk to you later. of fox news alert. and amazon warehouse, the jacksonville sheriff's office believes workers in a relationship, the man condition is unknown. police don't know who was the shooter, amazon calls it a tragedy. >> a portland police sergeant is punished during a night of violent protests, recovering after being hospitalized. five officers with a chemical outside the police union building monday nights. 24 people were arrested.

heavy body armor marked as part of the press, portland seeing 120 cases of unrest. todd: donald trump and joe biden criticizing each other's record on race. >> this man is the savior of african-americans, crime bill, 1994, you called them super predators, african-americans, you treated the black community as bad as anybody in this country. jillian: who is right? democratic strategist robert pattillo on deck to debate that next.

this man is the savior of african-americans?

we never walked away from trying to require equity for everyone. there was a peaceful protest, the military used teargas on them. >> the crime bill 1994, you call them superpredators, african-americans. i'm letting people out of jail, you treated the black community as bad as anybody in this country. jillian: race in america in the spotlight as the candidates clash over the record but many are asking who is serving the community and who is offering lipservice. here is democratic strategist robert pattillo and are in see indications director paris denied. thank you for being here. how did you think of both candidates performances last night and what they had to say? >> was a hot ghetto mess. there wasn't a shining moment for democracy and donald trump

won the debate because he control the conversation, control the tempo, controlled what was discussed and wasn't discussed. donald trump was able to minimize, did not want to talk about like continuously interrupting, changing the subject, bring it up far right-wing conspiracy theories, was able to box joe biden into corners is not want to be on. if you want to say who was the winner and loser donald trump was the winner and the american people were the loser because by politics devolving into a reality show it further weakened our position in the world, that people believe we are a nation of chaos. the next debate in the next 30 days we have to work on restoring dignity to american politics and i don't know if that can happen through these debates. jillian: i will assume you agree

with robert the donald trump won the debate, that's just my assumption, tell me if i'm wrong. >> your assumption is the fact that the date on his side to show he has been transformative, aspirational leader at the white house. he won the debate because he got under joe biden's skin. vice president biden was shockingly rude and he called the president names and he stood there and had the nerve to tell the president of the united states to shut up. the president of the united states represents all the american people, he was demeaning to the office of the presidency in the moment. he was a senior statesman for 47 years and could not hold himself together for 47 minutes let alone 90 some odd minutes to show himself as the leader many people would think would be presidential. a shocking moments that happened

repeatedly, donald trump controlled the debate, had the effect and looked and sounded because he was the president of the united states. >> what joe biden has made, specifically in regards to talking about race relations with the black community, who won this message last night? who will better race relations running forward. >> if you are thinking you are from your trump and you ain't black, pork a salad it is white kids. only been elected to the united states senate. >> the other one is here. >> a quick few seconds from each of you. you didn't hear anything like that last night but who do you think is better suited based on their messages to handle race relations and make it better

going forward. >> playing videos of biden's, quote, gas, donald trump had more gaffes last night, described diversity training of federal employees as reverse racism, wouldn't condemn white supremacist groups, stand by, despite the black voices for trump event in atlanta, georgia, that he would declare the kkk a terrorist organization, during the debate yesterday, this issue of what is best for the african-american community, almost antithetical to believe his words don't belie his actions. when someone asks you to denounce the kkk and what is a common organization during the debate it shouldn't be a point of consternation, anti-american, somehow reverse racism.

great things, the minute you ask, putting joe biden in a different -- jillian: we are running out of time. final word to you in a few seconds. >> donald trump's platinum plan, $500 billion, 3 million jobs to the black community and it shows the president is serious about black engagement, you can talk about rhetoric and what joe biden has done and negative comments, donald trump denounced racism, denounced kkk, denounced a host of white supremacist organizations when he was president and will continue to do so because his actions are strong for the black community, a true champion for us.

and black community and that. jillian: thank you very much. we appreciate that, be right back. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office

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>> are you willing to tell the american people tonight whether or not you will support ending the filibuster or packing the courts? >> whatever position i take will become the issue. >> why won't you answer the question? >> shut up, man. >> it was on your list, joe? >> to bring disaster for joe biden taking shots from donald trump over where they would add justices to the bench as president but trump seems to have the votes to get his nominee through, amy coney barrett is the person we are

talking about. who is playing politics and who is following the constitution to give the vice president for constitutional government john malcolm, is biden's refusal to answer the court packing question proof positive that that is the democrats plan if they get power? >> highly likely if they get power they will. highly likely they will do that even if amy coney barrett is not confirmed. the number of justices on the supreme court is not fit in the constitution and his very over time although it has been nine for a long time. the number is set by statute and democrats have said if they keep the house and when the president and when the presidency the odds are very high they will eliminate the legislative filibuster the same way the nomination filibuster has been done away with. if they do they will pass legislation that will pack the courts and increase the number of justices by 2, 4, whatever number they set and pack a lower

court's too. sean: another key moment was the roe v wade part of the debate. despite them calling a ballot which made no sense because of the controversy but the fact it doesn't appear to be a case in controversy before the court. what was your take on donald trump's response to the question? >> roe versus wade has been an issue since it was issued by the court in 1973 and the democrats use that as fear mongering way to turn the clock back. and one supreme court justice, and you don't know how - or how anthony fauci would pull.

amy coney barrett said she's a lot like justice scalia. i'm surprised of being a pro-life justice. and i would uphold that. >> donald trump was prepped on that specific response. they can't rule on something if there is no case or controversy. john malcolm, thanks so much. >> the supreme court battle to the fight over voters in american suburbs. >> if he ever got to run the country and they ran at the way he would run it. >> took a wrong turn >> who is winning the suburbs showdown. our panel react next.

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>> if he ever got to in this country and they ran at the way he would want to run at our suburbs would be gone, our suburbs would be gone and you would see problems -- >> unless you took a wrong turn. his refusal to do it. jillian: a suburb showdown as trump and biden try to appeal to the matriarchs of the country, which candidate reached the coveted mom voting block? we are asking our panel, cara sponsored -- thank you for being here, appreciate it. karen, i will start with you.

what are your thoughts? do you think either candidate was able to sway undecided voters? >> don't know if either candidate was able to do that. it was pretty chaotic but both president trump and vice president biden have a track record. donald trump has a shorter track record but his actions speak very loudly and his support for law enforcement and will of law on city streets is something i feel confident about going forward and it means a lot to me and i don't understand why vice president biden would be so hesitant to condemn the violence we have seen in many of our streets. jillian: we have a clip on that conversation on law and order. >> the vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women. >> cities don't want to talk

like you about law and order. >> are you willing to condemn white supremacists? >> stands back, somebody has to do something about antifa and the left. >> antifa is an idea, not an organization. matt jillian: you agree with that? >> biden was quick to say he condemns the violence. don't know anybody who approves of what is happening when a peaceful protest turns violent. donald trump has the ability like a game of chicken with the governors, you have to call me in for me to send and help. i'm going to wait to send and help. nobody wants to move. we need to put the american people first and for people's businesses and lives and safety. jillian: his message resonated with you last night? >> i sided more with trump, he did a better job, drew a point

that spoke to a narrative. biden might have been quick to say he is against the violence, i am not the president so i'm not going to call the governors of these cities that are running amok, it is not my problem. jillian: something else on the forefront of the minds of mothers across the country especially children, the conversation of going back to school, the conversation on the pandemic. >> he knew it was a deadly disease, he waited and waited and waited. i made back in march --

>> the country would have been left wide open. millions of people would have died. jillian: whose message did you like last night? >> i loved how donald trump, on the chinese communist party's shoulders, they manufactured this or that it out, they didn't alert the world, they let it spread and a freshman in high school was able to go in person or half a day yesterday. i don't -- he did everything he could by sending a ship to new york, ventilators in short order. the governor has the blame, not donald trump. >> it is awful and tough. we can blame the chinese for not letting us now but they are not

here to help us do anything about it. i agree with the president but we have to open things up somehow, figure out a way to knock this thing out. it would be great, i am homeschooling, i raise political thinkers. we can't have a blame game and say we've got to get our kids their education first and foremost. and issues of mental health, this is very serious. jillian: one of the things we heard from the biden campaign, and donald trump in this conversation of the vaccine, do you think that is helpful to hear that?

>> sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth, he doesn't trust the president when the president is getting his information from the very scientists he is holding in high regard. it shows he has an agenda not in the best interests of the american people. it worked against him. i was really disappointed. >> raise of hands, who thinks donald trump won the debate last night. all three, you guys are great, thank you for joining us. great conversation. appreciate it. todd: donald trump defend his tax practices in light of the new york times article claim he paid $750 in federal income tax. >> he passed a tax bill that gave privileges for depreciation and tax credits. you will lose half of the

companies that poured in here. >> the tax code, he pays less tax than a schoolteacher, i will eliminate the trump tax cuts can invest in people who need the help. todd: donald trump says he cannot release tax returns because of an irs audit. during a confrontation with allstate was couple will not be prosecuted. those charges were dropped by prosecutors after reviewing all the evidence. people who live in patricia mccloskey's neighborhood did not want to bring charges. mccloskey faces felony charges pointing their guns of protesters. missouri's governor says he will pardon the couple if they are convicted. james comey will testify in the senate investigation of the russia probe. he is acceptable to be grilled about still dossier troll in the fbi investigation and newly declassified intel from john ratcliff claims ellery clinton approved a plan to create a

scandal surrounding donald trump. jillian: supreme court justice ruth they are ginsburg has been laid to rest. police escorting her body to arlington national cemetery, she was buried beside her husband during a private ceremony. justice ginsburg died from pancreatic cancer two weeks ago at the age of 87. the fourteenth of justice to be buried at the cemetery. it is 39 after the hour, donald trump going after hunter biden during the debate. >> some $3.5 million. what did he do to deserve it? jillian: joe biden denying the president's facts. social media reacting to that heated exchange coming up next. robinhood believes now is the time to do money.

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>> and, here is more on that back and forth. carley: it wasn't on the list and no surprise to anybody the donald trump brought up hunter biden and his business dealings, and take a look at a portion of that exchange. >> china 8 your lunch, he takes out billions of dollars, the mayor of moscow's wife gave you $3.5 million, what did he do to deserve it? >> my son did nothing wrong. >> donald trump trying to make the point the bidens are typical washington insiders with a separate set of corrupt rules,

biden maintained his son did nothing wrong but the broader point is this got personal, 90 minutes of mudslinging. at one point biden needs to tell donald trump to shut up. >> the issue with the american people should speak. you should go out and vote. >> why won't you answer the question? the radical left -- >> will you shut up, man? carley: nobody pumps out a t-shirt faster than a politician and biden's campaign already selling will you shut up, man, t-shirts. people on both sides were frustrated. conservative commentator ben shapiro posted this, the guy in the middle. another twitter user says the winners chris wallace for not flipping the desk and walking out by now.

he had to suppress those feelings last night. jillian: the president's accusations. >> before the debate donald trump, he treated this like it was a boxing match, into joe biden's head, calling for a drug test, check their years, joe biden had fun with that and tweeted this. it is debate night, i have my earpiece ready, kayleigh mcenany fired back, considering that is the way the debate started no surprise it ended the way it did. jillian: the big question is who won? can we determine this? >> the answer is no. a lot of people agree it is hard

to tell. there was so much crosstalk that substantively it was difficult for both candidates to make solid points. one instagram comment, john, instagram comment or, biden has proven he can't handle the he. another says joe biden, more policy points, trump looks like an impetuous baby. the point, joe biden's main goal was not to make embarrassing gaffes. the counterpunch are that he is as well. jillian: many people asking - todd: i texted jillian. jillian: in philadelphia.

see you guys. the presidential debate may send people to canada instead of the polls, searches about moving to canada skyrocketed as soon as the debate started. todd: similar spikes over 2012-2016, some online, travel between the us and canada is restricted due to coronavirus. they did give us janice dean, important stuff, 47 after the hour. the candidates different debate styles showing right off the bat. >> an empty chair at the kitchen table. >> name one group that supports you. jillian: you watched and listened but what did each candidate's body language say about their performance? a comedic asians coach reads between the lines next. ♪ hanging it tough ♪ hanging it tough

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>> heated exchanges, taxes crosstalk, candidates swinging, leadership to medication coach doctor lawrence -- doctor laura, thanks for joining me. before we go through the clips, what stood out to you from last may. >> the pandemonium, complete lack of the ability to have a civil, passionate but civil exchange of idea, that was missing. >> let's go to the first click on biden laughing, trump shaking his head, take a listen. >> the bigger problem you have, you were very late on the draw,

that destroyed, they shouldn't even call it obamacare. >> those preexisting conditions, security companies beloved, the american people should speak. >> i they both wrong? >> break this down. >> that response to each of them with their nonverbal equivalent, when joe biden, he was restraining the impulse, and very wrong. to the extent donald trump didn't disrupt at times, it was a head shake. >> and how do you get of this morning, had an empty chair at the kitchen table because someone died of covid-19?

you folks living in scranton and small towns and working-class towns in america. todd: what about that moment? >> the strongest moment of the night for either of them. no interruptions going on, nobody yelling at each other. it was him making the effort to cut through the noise. i'm talking to you, this is for you, i am here for you. it was the first true personal connection and it was the strongest part. todd: there was one theme of the night. >> let people know. and and who do you have, main one group, who supported you. we have time.

>> we heard that last line, name one law-enforcement organization that endorses you. my entire drive on the way and from the commentators. what is your take on that? >> number one chris wallace was the moderator and joe biden was trying to answer his question, would you like to sit in my chair if you want to do my job, choosing which question to answer at which when he didn't and nothing says candidates have to answer each other's questions and if anything both of them avoided a lot of questions, can you name law enforcement organization that supports your donald trump avoiding would you be willing to denounce white supremacist with the kkk, he totally sidestepped that. he never actually announced it. there were a lot of things that were concerning about the

questions that were not answered directly. todd: this was one of 3 debate, coaching a candidate in the next one and the one after that what would you tell each of them? >> i would give the moderator a muted button. so we could actually hear what the candidates to say. doesn't matter how good the answers are. and and the 2 minutes of monologue a piece. it demonstrated the blue to construct and but the other one talk and fight for airtime. both images in the eyes of the public. todd: appreciate your time and hope you get some sleep after a late night.

time, 55 after the hour. the first debate in the books, team coverage continues with bring of the baseball cards, gianna know caldwell and dr. nicole saphier. >> that was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck. jillian: one of the dramatic responses to last night's the bay, the mainstream media's total meltdown in the next hour. i'm making sandwiches! on king's hawaiian bread! yum! king's hawaiian.

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is what a brawl it was. if you were judging this, the winner was the person who declared the greatest force of personality would declare donald trump the winner because he was like a bucking bronco through the whole thing. i am not sure people at home find that appealing. vice president biden - ♪