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curveball they get you off your game but i never can do it. i tried again and again. thank you very much here. they are talking, they're doing that, that's a good thing. >> hello, everyone, i'm jesse watters along with craig mcdowell and this is "the five." ♪ president trump boasting that he won the first debate is big changes could be coming to the next one. the commission said that it will adjust the format to avoid chaos and interruptions with new tools to maintain order. one possibility being discussed is to give the moderator the ability to mute the microphones of one candidate, while the other is talking. president trump blasting the idea on twitter.
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why would i allow the debate commission to change the rules for the second and third debates when i easily one last time? a source telling our john roberts that the bite and calm paint is beyond the request to cut the microphone. as for tuesday's debate, the candidates are not done talking about or taking shots at each other. president trump touting his performance and mocking sleepy joe. >> i really enjoyed last night's debate with sleepy joe. [cheers and applause] last night i did what the corrupt media has refused to do, i held joe biden accountable for his 47 years of lies. 47 years of betrayal, and 47 euros of betrayal. and for bowing to the violent mob at home. all people biden continued to whine about the debate. >> there couldn't be a more stark difference from what i saw last night in the debate stage.
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self entitled, self-serving president who thinks everything is about him. he thinks that if he just yells louder and louder, throws out lie after lie after lie, he will get his way. >> nancy pelosi repeating her calls for biden to back out. >> it was a sad occasion. people saying well they should've had a button to turn one microphone off while the other was thinking. >> let me just ask a question about the role change proposals. if joe biden won the debate, and that's how the debate was, why wouldn't he want those rules to stay the same? you can to sit back and let trump self-destruct and act like a bully and look bad in his opinion, and he can win another debate. it tells me that he knows that they did not win and they are trying to not meet the
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president. >> it's interesting. your initial thoughts to me i was thinking this is unlike jesse, why is jesse giving good advice here? then you came back to that -- >> would you think? if he won, if biden really thought he want to come a wide didn't he want the roast the stay the same question marks because don't think the actor is biden. what you get here is a situation where the american people clearly were ill-served by what took place on tuesday night. if you are watching, you did not get a clear vision from either candidate of what it is that they propose to do in the next four years. if you had your children with you, you are appalled. that was an embarrassment. i think that there is an effort here to say how can we make the debate more productive and more valuable to the american people? now the trump campaign, not the biden, but the trump campaign is the one that says we don't want
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to change the rules. it was jason miller that went after the debate commissioned by the way, it's not biden pier they went after the debate commission and saying these people are permanent swamp monsters. for someone who's been around a while, like me, i say frank run stud debate commission committee with the national republican chairman in the 1980s. you're going after fellow republicans. >> tells me come a day can that they have to change the rules for trump. it is not like this would happen if trump were not the nominee. they're not going to have mute buttons in 2024 and onward. it looks like it is trump targeted. >> of course it is trump targeted, but this role change could help trump help himself. because he will focus on the most important issues, the economy. talk about the deregulation and the tax cuts and the leveling of the playing field for corporations.
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talk about the wealth gap and inequality starting to shrink, something that did not happen under biden and obama. talk about lower and middle income folks finally sharing in the wealth, helpful income going up the worst last year at the fastest pace on record. i can go on. but i just want to tell people something, growing up in the south you might mute me but i can communicate effectively with my hands. you can do this, the biden or even like this, distract him. there are some options. >> wait a second, what did that last one mean? >> usually makes a noise. >> you are saying even if they do have the mute button commits 2 minutes, 2 minutes, and it's a little bit more organized and disciplined, trump stays in the lane and he does what he does that might help him. >> yes, if president trump, it
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was jumping at the bid so we did not lead biden finish. as we have seen, if you think about this primary debates, there were moments where joe biden would have 2 minutes to answer, then he would get to about a minute and 13 seconds and say i am good here. i think at that point the president could be like please, finish. that's where you might get a moment. we have gone from a debate about whether or not there should be a debate, or whether there were going to be debates, and i we are having debates about the debate format, i'm going to predict that nothing changes. nothing is going to change for any of these debates come it's all going to stay the same going forward. i also want to point out that in the issue we were blank joe biden at an event, he's been keeping his cool and not yelling during the debate. now here he is by himself at a podium with two huge microphones, and he is yelling louder than ever and is basically wiping out, he's counselincanceling out all of te
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things. that was a bad thing. you don't need to yell when you have your microphone. >> didn't look like there was much of a crowd. >> what you are talking about is the same thing the mediated today. yesterday the meeting was screaming about how horrible the debate was, then you see at the press conference with kelly just over the top demanding ritual denunciation right now. i was watching the press conference with kaylee and i'm going this reminds me of when the black lives matter activists surround a car and they demand you to say black lives matter or you can't drive away. that's what they were doing to kaylee. you must say it. it was subjugation. nobody should ever give into that. nobody, even if you agree with them as a principal, you cannot be forced to say something, especially if you have already said it a dozen times. we are letting the media shape this narrative. it's driving me nuts.
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their narrative it is that it's trump's problem and he needs to be put in a box. then it was a no rebuttal structure that caused this. if you know you are not going to have any chance for a rebuttal and somebody says something really personal about you, those are fighting words, you've got a jump in. if you know you can do it -- by the way, joe biden did interrupt before trump but trump had to interrupt their the problem was not trump, it was the no rebuttal. i'm not surprised the media wants an mute surprise the democrats want a mute button. if you look at college campuses, they try to cancel shows, they try to cancel speakers, they don't want to cooperate or communicate with people. that's the thing, they prefer to just mute you, especially trump. they are not mad at trump because he's mean. they are mad at trump because he is meeting on behalf of millio
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millions. they hate his base as much as they hate trump. i can't wait for the next debate. it's going to be great. >> juan: the american people are being ill served by a bunch of people screaming and being rude to each other, this benefits president trump, a lot of people just got turned off by it. you see it in the numbers. i expected even a bigger audience, we got a great audience but i think a lot of people just said, what's with all the shouting? my is trump constantly breaking up and being rude? >> greg: as contentious as "the five" gets, our ratings are always better when we go at it, i hate to see it but that's true, people like to see the fireworks. not everybody, nobody wants to hear about policy if there's fireworks outside, right? and that's the reality. the debate, basically the
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consequence of results. >> jesse: i would like a mute button on this show once in a while, mostly from dana, to keep dana in line. a huge reversal from the biden campaign in key battleground states. our sleepy joe and his crew worried? find out next. ♪ alright, everyone, we made it.
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cycle musical >> dana: a major reversal for team biden in key battleground states. after months of avoiding direct contact with otis, the campaign is now launching its first canvassing operations with covid safety measures in place, democrats in battleground states have sounded the alarm about the biden campaign not having a more robust presence given that the trump campaign has boasted about its ability to reach voters in person. this reminds me of when the campaign manager for hillary clinton in wisconsin kept calling over to brooklyn headquarters saying, can i get some help, we need some help, anybody? and brooklyn said no, we are
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looking at the algorithm and the algorithm says everything is just fine. is the biden campaign being responsive to real concerns? >> juan: clearly people don't want to have any regrets on november 3rd, they don't want to have a repeat of that but in terms of the actual strategy here, i think it's twofold. one is they had thought given the pandemic that people didn't want strangers knocking on their doors. they were really happy to reach likely and registered voters through phone calls, text messages, even old-fashioned male. but now what they are doing is, responding to the kind of indication that i don't know for a fact but trump's campaign is registering more people so what they are doing is they are targeting people who maybe are harder to reach, younger folks that don't have a hard line in the house, maybe they have cell phones, and they are going after those folks and they are reaching out to them and saying
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hey, we want you not only to vote but in case you need to register we want you to register. >> dana: the thing is that the trump campaign has been working on new voter registration since january of 2017. they have reached very high numbers and a new voter is 99% likely to vote in the next election. >> jesse: they are registering hundreds of thousands more republican voters than democrats in all these baked battleground states. it is funny to watch the biden campaign literally three days ago say the trump campaign was putting people's lives in danger by knocking on doors and now, yeah, let's knock on some doors. this tells me that they are not doing as well as i think they are when you look at the polls, they didn't win the debate because now they want rule changes, they are creating these big racial hoaxes now and hitting the ground and if you look at the polls you can see indications, the tracking poll from usc, head-to-head general,
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it had biden up double digits the other day and now trump is within four points. and rasmussen, his approval rating is at 2.5 so it is looking good in the real clear politics average in battleground jungle and i can tell you he's not down three. >> dana: the other thing we talk about, the fact that biden is really trying to not answer a lot of questions including on the supreme court and how the left is saying we want to pack the court and he refuses to answer and calls it a distraction. >> greg: he didn't have a ground game, he had a 6 feet under ground game, if you know what i mean. i had this idea that he's on a train, going door-to-door, they should have him go around town, remember those giant wheeled bicycles that were invented in the 1870s, when he first
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became senator. a big wheel and little wheel, you can go really fast because they are really big wheels so you can just paddle, you can get across town like that. but doesn't going door-to-door seem kind of like a desperate situation now? it's like when you start texting frantically to somebody because they haven't responded and you think maybe they ar you are beig ghosted or they left town, that's what it means, he is being ghosted by the voters. >> dana: things are tightening, they have this lead in some of these states and they don't want to lose it. >> dagen: they don't want to lose it but they also need to get progressive voters to vote for joe biden. the bernie bros and gals might hate president trump but i have to get those voters out.
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you can kind of profile people, check out their shoes, what are you wearing, how are you dressed and then do a nod and a wink and go "green new deal." wealth tax, single-payer, or go the other way, don't worry, we are not going to basically destroy your job in the natural gas -- don't worry, we are not going to send your electricity, it's a way for them to figure out, oh, you are left-wing leaning? >> dana: when you go canvassing door-to-door you have two groups of pamphlets, the a or the be based on the shoes. i don't know, your shoes are pretty normal today. the two these are product. my wife buys my shoes, she will call you right now. >> dana: i like that she was afraid i'm saying sometimes they are a little more colorful and they may have given you packet a
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rather than packet b. >> juan: it must be that she was. >> dana: up next, the debate over mail-in voting is continuing, one city is having issues with over 100,000 ballots. ♪ non-valvular afib can mean a lifetime of blood thinners.
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been taking a beating for suggesting widespread confusion is coming but does this prove he has a point? new york city sending out nearly 100,000 new mail-in ballots after a printing error. the problem is a part of the spread to other parts of the state and now dr. anthony fauci is saying he's going to vote in person. >> i'm going to go to a poll, if you stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask and you are in line outside and when you go inside, if the polling staff clearly are being careful with masks, you physically can go and vote. for sure. >> dagen: dana, new york is not even one of the states sending out ballots to every registered voter and they are having troubling problems there. >> dana: i guess the good news is they caught it now rather than november 4th, that would not be a good time to catch it. i also think that social distancing for voting is a dream come true for me because i don't love crowds and i'm really short. if you go and there's a long line and you are squeezed in
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with people it feels very uncomfortable so i think that voting in person is actually great and i think dr. fauci is right. if you really want to make sure that your vote counts and you can vote in person, you should because america needs a decisive election, whatever it's going to be, it needs a decisive election on the best way to get that is for as many people to vote in person as can be. >> dagen: why are the democrats not saying that to their voters if they want their votes to count. >> dana: they are starting to. >> greg: we have been height discriminated in all voting and parades. i think so, what did you ask me? let me look at my notes. i got my card, i got my card where i can vote and when and it starts -- the last week of october, it goes for like a weekend a half so i don't understand why can't we just
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vote early instead of extendinge deadline? i don't understand why the democrats aren't wary of the mail-in vote, they'd rather lose the election an van agree with trump that this is a risk from of the new experiment with that and if you're a democrat you've got to worried, there is research that shows, i think it was in florida and some other states that minority voters, there ballots get rejected the most. trump is kind of saying something that you should listen to. i know it's hard to listen to somebody you despise but sometimes -- >> jesse: people listen to me. >> dana: i don't even know who you are anymore. >> jesse: everybody knows johnny, my assistant, jonny's great-grandmother would've been 115 years old today, she passed away in 2006, god rest her soul.
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jonny's great-grandmother received a ballot today in the mail in brooklyn and i'm not going to say whether he filled it out for trump or not, but the fact that she's been passed away for so long and received a ballot unsolicited unless she solicited it from beyond the grave, that is scary and if you look at what happens in california, i looked at the map, 250,000 people passed away in california every year so the last four years it's a million people in california that passed away. let's say that half of them are registered voters pray let's say half, half a million ballots they are sending out to dead people. >> greg: you are saying that because you're dead you can't vote. >> jesse: yes, i am. i am. if you can even take 10,000 of that half-million you could swing a congressional race from red to blue. or if you want to screw it up you go the other way but that's how bad it is and i did also
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research on trump saying they are throwing ballots in creeks. i couldn't find the creek but i found a ditch, they threw it in a trash can, a dumpster, an office building on the side of the road. if you want to say it's bad, it is bad. >> juan: people try to delegitimize democratic process, in new york city the process they had was recognized and it was rectified and it was a small problem. what we have in terms of the grander experience of many states including republican-led states that have had mail in voting for years as there is negligible if any fraud or disruption to be found. even if johnny's grandmother got a ballot, he can fill it out but it's going to go through a
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polling place, they are going to look at it and verify it and say "this person is deceased." you can try that but i think it's pretty ridiculous, i think it will be heard today from the white house press secretary was, oh, yeah, the people are finding ballots, throwing them -- rivers she said at first, then it was a ditch but again, the ballots were nameless, nobody had filled it out and once they recognized the problems they fix the problems. >> jesse: if someone had filled them out, that's fraud. >> juan: it's a futile act because you have to verify once it gets to the polling place. >> dagen: here's what happens in your city, my name got scrubbed from the voter roll and i called the new york county board of elections four years ago to make sure i could go and vote and you know what happened? the guy answered the phone, biggest city in the nation, hung up on me. i called back and they didn't answer the phone and you know what? there was a woman in a "new york times" article that quoted the same thing happen to her, she got a wrong ballad and it was her neighbor and she
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called the brooklyn board of elections and they hung up on her the first time and then the phone rang off the hook. >> juan: you should try the dmv. >> dagen: that's our point. >> juan: the point is you can get these things fixed. >> jesse: you vote by mail and republicans do it in person. >> juan: they make up these stories because they don't want you to vote and you should vote. it's just like kayleigh mcenany today, reporters asked her, to condemn the process, she won't do it. she said we've done it many times. >> greg: let's not spread falsehoods. >> dagen: this is the end of the segment, not the beginning of another one. a tone deftly our governor bragging about saving lives during the pandemic next. ♪ ♪ limu emu & doug
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♪ >> juan: welcome back, andrew cuomo once again facing had a criticism from some for a new, defending his handling of the pandemic. >> i put my head on the pillow at night saying i save lives, that's how i sleep at night. and i know we have. i know this type of activity, incompetent and effective government will cost lives. we've seen it from trump. he has cost lives. >> juan: texas senator ted cruz clashing with the
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governor's brother on cnn. >> was it a mistake when your brother implement it a policy that nursing homes had to accept covid-positive patients and endangered the lives -- >> my brother was the first one to say that there was a learning curve and mistakes were made and they change things as soon as they could. >> juan: is he sleeping well because he is referring to the new york state, new york city experience, densely populated areas, a lot of international travelers coming in and currently a very low rate of coronavirus spread. >> jesse: low rate compared to the past, they got hit super hard because of his incompetenc. he and his brother do actually share the same single brain bout the one thing, that drives me crazy is this ship. trump sent a massive medical ship to the west side and it sat there, every day i drove by when
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i was coming into the city, unused, that's where they could have sent the contagious folks, that's what it was for, it was for people with covid and instead they didn't want to use the ship, they killed all those people and i'm trying to figure out, it's a huge mistake and you should own it but why? did you not want to use the ship because trump sent it to you? they have yet to explain why the ship was sent and not used. if they sent however many patients there, it there would be thousands still alive. >> juan: i was watching the cnn thing and i thought, what is the cnn audience get out of that exchange? >> dagen: you know what, it's a people who lost loved ones in nursing homes in new york and thousands more then new york even admits, the people who deserve an answer and andrew cuomo won't give it to them. this is so, i am prone to using a four-letter word and i only
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have one for andrew cuomo, "liar." he said sending covid patients directly from hospitals never happened. a liar. he is so pathetic that his brothers network fact-checked, jake tapper, bless him, retweeted it, "cuomo falsely claims new york nursing homes never took in covid-positive patients. he would be indicted on criminal charges if he was a republican for killing all those elderly people. >> juan: wow, you are in a rage. >> dagen: you know what? it causes pain for these people who lost loved ones, he is spitting on their graves. >> juan: wow, okay. dana, a little bit of controversy in new york about the police enforcing mask rules but i'm singing to myself, if you don't wear a seat belt they will penalize you, they will stop you so what's the difference with a mask? >> dana: we need the economy to get back on track and the best way to get the economy back
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on track is for people in crowded situations, inside to be wearing a mask. that includes on a bus or on a subway so i am for it and i think it's a small thing to do to make sure you're not only being courteous to other people but also that helps get everybody back to work and money back into the cities so they can pick up the trash, for example. the other thing i would say when it comes to andrew cuomo -- i am sorry, chris cuomo, he somehow lit ted cruz back them into a corner where he has to defend his brother and they used to have a rule that you can't interview your brother, right? that's actually a pretty good rule. and i would maybe go back to that. the last thing i had to say -- dogs are always available. i would interview chris cuomo's dog if he wanted. when andrew cuomo says he sleeps well, i get it.
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one question, where is the empathy? >> juan: i think he may be referring to the low rate. that interview got real personal with chris cuomo saying that trump had insulted the senator, senator cruz's wife during the campaign so i come back to the same question, what does the audience get out of it? >> jesse: well, it got on "the five." tripled their audience. >> jesse: i just want to be in the same room when greg runs into chris cuomo one day. >> greg: i don't go into those clubs. to be there i will make this quick, juan. i don't understand how andrew cuomo can say he did a good job at president trump get a bad job one president trump got andrew cuomo everything he needed as fast as he could to help him out in new york. >> juan: i'm not sure he would agree with that but i think your
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but that's tough to do on a fixed income. i'd be hit with a tax penalty for moving to another county, so i'm voting 'yes' on prop 19. it limits property taxes and lets seniors transfer their home's current tax base to another home that's closer to family or medical care. being closer to family is important to me. how about you? voting 'yes' on prop 19.
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♪ >> greg: welcome back, first up, jesse, this is for you. president trump says mcdonald's french fries are the secret to his famous mop of hair, reacting to an article that suggests that a chemical found in fries could cause all of this. >> jesse: i saw this, i washed my hair with fries this morning and it didn't do anything. see when you got to do it twice. >> greg: i love potatoes, what is your favorite kind of potato? is it fries, you are fry guy? >> juan: these are awesome. people tell me catch up, i love ketchup on fries. let me just say, though, to hear
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president trump engage in some self-deprecating humor, i thought that was very attractive, i thought that was a good move for him, much better than the $75,000 he paid for hairstyling. >> greg: you have to pay them no matter what they're doing, i learned that on the road. >> dagen: i prefer hash browns. mcdonald's fries are the reason that i didn't get a boyfriend until i was about -- >> greg: why? >> dagen: because i was a little chunky. >> greg: o. >> jesse: you were chunky? >> dagen: 30 or 40 pounds heavier. >> greg: things are different now. dana? >> dana: i like potatoes from like a crock-pot, like a pot roast. >> greg: like a soft, moshe potato.
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that's a really boring potato. snow days are the most treasured day of childhood. the snow is probably over thanks to virtual learning. you grew up in a place called colorado, and wyoming, right? >> dana: we had a lot of snow days but we had a superintendent who made it tough on us, he said he would only call school off if he said couldn't get down his driveway in a tractor. it was like that anticipation, are you going to get a day off, are you going to watch "family feud? >> greg: i would not know, i grew up on the west coast. when we heard a snow day, that meant we were calling the coke dealer. >> dagen: i won't answer that. there is no more snow days, they are over for everybody. >> greg: it's another thing that the pandemics erased. >> juan: because every buddy has acclimated to virtual
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learning. no more ferris bueller's day o off. >> jesse: my dad was a headmaster for many years and it was his job as headmaster to call the snow day. he would wake up at 5:00 a.m. and check the weather, 8-it had to be 8 inches for him to call, he was very strict, other headmasters, a little dusting, call it. he was too tough. >> greg: the best part about snow days was when you knew it was coming the night before. finally, a new study finds that rude email exchanges at work can cause lingering stress and even affect family life. is this true, jesse? >> jesse: your emails. we've all seen those. i don't send emails. i only communicate with my assistant and my producer, that's about it but i think that's what people want to. no one wants emails from me in the company besides them. >> greg: he's talking about my
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emails being harsh. he doesn't see the ones i choose not to send. >> juan: really? >> greg: they are terrible, i send them to myself. >> jesse: you should see his drafts. >> juan: i think any root encounter, is stressful. in person, it could be on the phone, you don't want to do it. >> dana: email is hard because you read it over and over again. if you don't have anything nice to email, don't email anything at all. >> greg: all of our stuff is going to be linked at some point. some disgruntled fox employee. dagen, press delete. >> dagen: email is better for me because i get myself in trouble calling people "hon," "sugar." >> jesse: i wouldn't do well in the south. >> dagen: i got in trouble.
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>> jesse: "hey, sugar, what's up?" >> greg: god help us all. all right, "one more thing" is up next. usable musica♪ election...
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♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. ♪ >> time now for one more thing, let's do some hair news, please. do we have some for hair news? >> hair news! >> we should have it. if national hair day, everybody. hallelujah. we are going to take a look back at my hair over the years on "the five." let's see the first day i appeared on "the five." oh, my god! look at that sharp guy. it is sharp. that's 2017. let's do 2018.
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gained a little weight there, i got it. i'm okay with it. 2019, let's see that. wow! it grew. and 2020. >> no tie. >> jesse, one more thing ever. >> and can we see my hair today? it's pretty good. not a lot of change. >> can we see it from the back? mccoy think of just shaved a year off of my life. >> what do we have dana? >> you didn't show the mullet. >> that's been destroyed. >> i want to talk about lamb chop. this little dog is a 12-pound multis, she was just ground people magazines world's cutest rescue dog. should be no more than 10,000 other dogs after two weeks of owning, christian schubert of milwaukee adopted this pop in 2014, so this will pop it was born in a puppy mill, lived there for six years and you know, it was tough times, several tumors removed, et cetera. lamb chop, was scared of people
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and other dogs at first but since being adopted is adjusting, driving things to classes for shy dogs. and a trainer. international superstar, that's lamb chop. >> shy dogs. why would you be shy if you were a dog? [laughter] greg. >> that's to ponder. >> speaking of, let's do this. gregg's puppies into twos. if you know me well enough you know i love two things, puppies and tutus. check this out. puppies into twos. just having fun, loving the world. you know, why can't we all be puppies? >> you can wear one. >> who says i haven't? i dance every sunday around 3:00 a.m. down in the club. see you there. >> so you do go to cuomo's clubs. juan. >> so today is october 1st, time
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for charlie brown 'has great news. take a look at the winner of the utah pumpkin growers annual giant pumpkin way off. the winner weighed 1,825 pounds, the second largest pumpkin ever grown in the state, grown by -- eight of the pumpkins entered, weighed over a thousand pounds, that set a new record and for your horticulturalist, it's the largest pumpkin ever grown outside of a greenhouse. in case you think you want one for halloween, too late, it takes six months for the seed to grow into a giant pumpkin. >> i want a drug test. >> it's gourd-geous. >> that must be embarrassing for the pumpkins, humiliating. >> back in the day. take a look at this video, just out playing some golf and along comes, well, a deer, a friendly dear, this is jason and his fiancee, pga professional. they took this video.
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listen, where i'm from it's hunting season. if you're out you better be wearing head to toe blaze orange this time of year. >> you talk about golf for the deer? >> both. >> that's it for us, "special report" is up next with bret baier. >> bret: i liked your evolution of hair, thanks, jesse. good evening, welcome to washington, on bret baier. working tonight, president trump is returning to the white house, he's just returned moments ago after speaking with donors at a fund-raiser in new jersey, but perceptions of too much talking at the wrong time are at the root of some changes being considered by the commission on presidential debate. that group is said to be thinking about giving the moderator a mute button. the president is insisting that polls show he won the debate in the system is just fine. chief white house correspondent john roberts starts us off. >> the president's strategy of these debates is to come up

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