infectious and not going to develop symptoms to that point forward to. >> ashley: okay, doctor, i appreciate it and thank you for being here with us late tonight for the news that's breaking. ♪ >> ashley: this is a fox news alert i'm ashley strohmeyer from new york, president trump tweening overnight that he and the first lady tested positive for the coronavirus and testing and following is the top aide hope hicks tested positive and they've been traveling extensively with the president this week. if there's reports that he exudes is experiencing symptoms however , at this time there's no word if the present and the firt lady are feeling sick. they are both well at this time and remaining at the white house during this time. for the very latest, we go to

fox news white house correspondent kevin corke. kevin, you spent a lot of time around the white house, the president's, his. what are your thoughts on the news that came out tonight? >> like most other americans, first, you're a little bit shocked and surprised given the protocol. you get a quick sense were tested when we go into the white house, we are tested when were around the president and in his particular case as you saw, all the staffers, the first lady, they're all tested on a regular basis. it's a little bit surprising and i would say from that perspective. however, you hit the nail on the head and when you do a lot of aggressive travel, three stops last week, and again we are right down to the home stretch into the 2020 election. they have been more aggressive and on the road a little bit more. obviously, it's more unfortunately there is more risk

of exposure. i would say from that perspective i'm surprised. i can tell you again based on everyone we talked to tonight and like you i've been working the phones. they've all this said the same thing. both he and the first lady feel fine and as long as they are a symptomatic, as they continue to do the right thing and get the therapeutics, they should be in good shape. >> ashley: 15 minutes for your tests to come back whenever you go into the white house, is that right? >> that's about right. listen, i'm really happy to tell you it's a lot better than it was when we were first and i mean it was sort of invasive. but it's a quick turnaround and you can do that quick test and squared away and you can move in we call the upper floors of the west wing. but in his case as you can imagine, they do a secondary test as well which is probably how we ended up in the circumstance in particular in light of what happened with hope hicks. she of course experienced symptoms and tested positive.

>> ashley: just from being in that environment and being around to the people that he works with, what does it look like as far as the standpoint of him wearing a mask or social distancing? is that something you guys see a lot when you are there? >> i can tell you what i've seen and usually the circumstances where we are, everybody is really disciplined about mask wearing, there's dispensers everywhere for hand sanitizing. if you keep your distance, don't kid yourself if you're at home and thinking, oh, as soon as the cameras are off, masks are off, and chumming around. it's a lot more serious than that. but i've also observed that the president and some of the larger circumstances go without a mask. the thinking being where outside or i have plenty of distance and therefore are not terribly worried about it. what's really concerning in this particular case is if it happens

to hope and perhaps it ended up on air force one, how many other people work exposed to it and ultimately that may be the costly factor. again, complete speculation, and i don't know for certain. if but when i'm at the complex, everybody takes it fairly seriously and unless -- unless you're by yourself away from everybody, you're going to have your mask on, or washing our hands and certainly in the fox booth and like that anyway. even anecdotally when i'm on the upper floors, people take it very seriously. >> ashley: we have all said and herded to 1,000 times if you're outside, you have a lesser risk of catching the virus. he's been doing a lot of rallies and they've all been outside. i'm curious, anybody who has been to those. they are still pretty tight packed, tightly packed in there and i've seen your allocable the rallies. are there any peoples wearing mask outside or is anybody just

once they get outside it's kind of a free-for-all? even at the white house. are they wearing them outside too? >> it's a free-for-all. if you're of the mind sides, and maybe it depends on your community. in washington, d.c., people take it very seriously. we mask up, but i've been to some rallies, some auditory events where the feeling is i'm outdoors, it's highly unlikely that in this environment i'm going to get covid, that's the fear among them many people and many of them were not wearing mask wearing it enough to get to a particular facility and they don't have to and they take it off. i've even remarked and i don't know if you learn this too but you go out to eat and you can walk into a restaurant and you have to as have a mask to walk , but when you eat yo, you can tae it down. you may have seen me up in ohio

even after the debate, just to come again, watching people as they are around in large groups. most people when they are outside in my circumstance are not wearing masks. when they cover though white house events and were obviously sort of corralled altogether, more often than not people mask up. >> ashley: i will mention that even during the debate on tuesday, the president says i have no issue wearing a mask and he even pulled it out all of suit jacket. a lot of the video that we played on loop obviously right here has shown him wearing a mask and he's very adamant about wearing a mask for hope hicks and you wonder if they came into close contact potentially on the plane, the helicopter, she was wearing a mask. something to point out. >> she was wearing a mask and in the conversation my sean hannity overnight, making the comment that when you're out there, you're wanting to be very

available and accessible to the women and men in uniform, local law enforcement, first responders. there may be, again," or to contact and maybe you might otherwise get. and that's a risk that all of us take any time we go to a large-scale event. i would say this. based on the conversation that he had with sean hannity, he sounded optimistic and you read the tweets, i read the tweets. the first lady even not terribly long ago said the president and i are quarantining at home after testing positive for covid-19 and were feeling good, she wrote, and i postponed all upcoming engagements. as long as they say they feel good and then working with the doctors, i think, again, based on the conversation that you have with health care professionals and everything that we know so far they should be in good shape. >> ashley: quickly, i saw

this, in the stocks are taking a plunge and the dow futures are more than 400 points down after the news. obviously, people are going to be very concerned about this especially with you could say the climate of this campaign. >> ashley: you know, and if i can add really quickly and i don't want to get off on a tat here. i want to remind everyone that even though we recognize that we are in a hyper political environment, be careful out there and how you consume the news over the next 24-48 hours. i think you want to not be careful in how you understand what's going on and what will happen. for both the first lady and the president moving forward that with respect to testing, with respect to how they're handling the quarantine and any therapies or therapeutics that they may be

having to take. but also be careful in how you listen and absorb what other people are saying. there will be stark, i get that, this is 2020. again, i would employ all americans to take a step back for just a second. these are real life situations, real people, and they are important people for our country and we all should hope that they would recover fully. >> ashley: you would hope and pray that people would take this seriously, him being the commander in chief. no doubt. kevin, thank you so much for joining us tonight and i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> ashley: joining us now is dr. marc siegel, fox news medical correspondent. you heard everything we talked about tonight and get right onto it. now joining us, the president has announced that he tested positive along with melania trump, the first lady, for coronavirus. dr. siegel, we've been talking about it for months and just go ahead and break down for us what the timeline could potentially

look like great hope hicks tested positive in the president was around her the past couple days and show us the timeline and what it looks like. >> first of all, in terms of the flights they took together on air force one, this would be a little soon for the first lady and the president to be getting it after one day. that's not impossible and we have seen it one day two days, probably three days would be the most unusua usual. they've been around hope hicks and as he pointed out last time we spoke, they have filters on the plane but it's a close quarters and obviously the ventilation is not ideal. it's on the table but it certainly has been somewhere earlier than that. the other thing, actually, i'm hearing from my sources in the white house that the president and the first lady, you heard it before, are both absolutely asymptomatic. that's really good news.

that's what we need to continue to root for is that they will remain asymptomatic as they are under observation, very careful observation. >> talking with a doctor earlier and they were talking about the inhalers come around a severe , remdesivir, do you know what the strongest medication that you can take. i know the president said hydroxychloroquine, would this be a case for him to do something like it? i know he said he took it before. >> let me go through this but by bit. first of all there's a drug that they're using all over in europe, but it's not advanced for us to be saying that that is what you might be using and that's not what it is. remdesivir, getting more and more doses of that and that's been shown to be a moderately successful. that's not something you would use this early at all.

hydroxychloroquine, even though it's become a political football, is something that might be considered when taken together with his ink. it's not been fully studied and that would be a decision between him and his physician and not something that the scientists clinical trials would suggest but perhaps his physician might. there is inhalers being studied, steroid inhalers, but they're not yet something that we recommend. what i think he might have been referring to tonight with sean, maybe, this is just a possibility. two days ago, we've got positive news on the drug which are antibodies. i think that's the future here of the early treatments and in other words antibodies that are made synthetically that are targeted against this bind to protein the sars-cov-2 virus. it does antibodies are where they're going to go, it's early but we are seeing good results the last couple days on the clinical trials.

>> ashley: we both heard them tonight and we heard him around 9:30 eastern time tonight with sean hannity. he seemed to sound just fine tonight. if it does come to light that the president does not ever feel symptoms along with the first lady, would there be any reason for him to even take anything? >> again, like it's back to the question. are there medications that we can use preventative late and prophylactically and you know, several countries around the world, zinc, hydroxychloroquine are used for that in the united states it's not in favor right now. but i think the point that you're getting at is that the majority of people, even someone 74 years old like the president, get better without treatment. the vast majority of the time covid-19 is either mildly symptomatic or a symptom manic and that's what we are hoping for here. how long with the president have to be under observation is another question that keeps coming up.

the cdc said around 14 days and then they said ten days in the point here would be obviously it ends up being a hugely important from a political point of view when he can get back in action. we need to see repeated negative tests and that's going to be a key part of this. negative testing and i would suspect at least ten days. i would say ten days is the number that you're going to hear. >> ashley: are you saying ten days, now until the end of this or ten days from the point that he's testing negative of a certain amount of times? there's been a little bit of -- i've heard several things. we have to have two negative tests to be considered negative before you can get back out and "into the world." i wonder how it works for the president and closed in you back to the election day with 34 days out. >> you phrased it in a good way and, yes, by the way, i have to add the most important thing. this is between him and his

physicians, not something that we can speculate on. it depends on a lot of things. is he really asymptomatic. when do we think he really turned positive? what's the timetable? that's called contact tracing and where do we think it happened? i think you're right that the two negative tests is what we're going to be looking for. not ten days from the time of two negative tests, but at least ten days from the positive test occurred, two negative tests occurring a couple days apart in the second one to confirm the results of the first one. >> ashley: as far as the outdoor rallies, we have been told many times by health officials, being outside it makes it less likely to contract the virus. he's been to two rallies a day all over the united states and in the past several weeks. is there any need to be concerned for anyone who may have been closer to the president and even though it was outside or is not something that

you should probably just write off, would be safe to get tested? how does it work? when the president comes down with covid-19, it something we talk about every single day all day long and really, really worries people. >> this is a question you phrased exactly right. the key here is how much contact did you have with the president and how long were you together with him. what was the contact you had and that is called contact tracing and we want to know everyone that came in close contact and how long they were in contact. wearing a mask helps, for sure, but the physical distance and helps the most. this is the thing and that has to be gone over and i've a feeling the cdc will be involved with that. that will be gone over very carefully. if there's a question, we would test and obviously we have rapid testing now that we did not have before, not just the testing that you saw that were talking about at the white house is doing. we had the tests where we had it

in 15 minutes, but they rolled on a antigen test that's also very rapid. the ability to test everyone who may have come in contact with the president or the first lady here, or hope hicks for that matter, very easy to accomplish. we need to err on the side of over testing in this situation. >> ashley: okay, we appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you for your information and we appreciate it. and we are going to pause for one moment to let our fox stations join us. this is a fox news alert, newest that president trump and the first lady have tested positive for covid-19. i'm actually strohmeyer live in new york. president trump tweening overnight that he and the first lady tested positive for the coronavirus and they were

tested following news that white house top eight hope hicks tested positive after traveling extensively with the president this week. there's report that x is experiencing symptoms but at this time, there's no where did that the present are the first lady are sick. going back on that saying that people in the white house said they are feeling well right now and then it's an update to that. the president's physician said that the first lady and the president are both well at the time and they remain at home within the white house during this time. going to fox news correspondent steve doocy for the very latest. >> hey, steve is still sleeping, but peter gets here. >> ashley: your peter! >> we have breaking news i know that there's been confusion about this. we are told now that the white house chief of staff,

mark meadows, has been tested as part of normal protocol and has been negative in his recent tests. so, there's been some things swirling around online about next steps, people wanting to know who might have been in contact with the president and hope hicks. but i've been told by the white house officials, a senior white house official, the mark meadows has tested negati negative. i'm talking right now, ashley, from grand rapids, michigan, because this is where joe biden is supposed to have an event tomorrow. we were with him in bloomington delaware earlier today. he has been doing a lot more campaigning lately. he had his busiest day on the campaign trail since march, yesterday, seven stops. he's very conscious about wearing a mask and in fact at one point i was sitting 25 feet

away from biden and he began his remarks for three or 4 minutes with his mask on. it's okay to take it off, were social distance, but i've reached out to figure out and were waiting for some answers about whether or not he's going to quarantine as well because he was in proximity with the president on tuesday night. on the debate stage. i've reached out and i'm waiting for an answer and i know it's late so it's not really fair to expect an answer quickly. about whether or not joe biden even knows at this point. >> ashley: that's what i was wondering. >> that the president tested positive. >> ashley: right, obviously, you check twitter 24/7 to see if there's any inkling of chance that somebody on the biden campaign knows about this and that's what i keep asking and a lot of people are wondering. since this happened to come tuesday, granted they were socially distant. but there had to have been at

some point some sort of contact or touch. somewhere in the area. we know that president trump has been around people obviously who tested positive but he was fine, but there's always the worry for vp joe biden. >> and something else that changed, ashley, the last time we spoke. the president's scheduled for tomorrow and it should be obvious based on his public statements on twitter. but he was scheduled to attend a fund-raiser in the city and an event in florida. those have been canceled. he's now just going to be a conference call tomorrow. >> ashley: would it be a videoconference call? >> we don't believe so, usually these things are just a normal conference call.

old fashion conference call. speaking of that, earlier in the day there is a different conference call with the trump campaign officials about the next debate. you know, there so many news cycles in the day that it's hard to remember were easy to forget that earlier today, there was a lot of talk about whether or not at the next debate, the moderator was going to be able to cut somebody's mike if they are interrupting or if they are going over their time. well, the next presidential debate is within two weeks of right now. we do not know how long president trump will being -- we don't want to speculate about how long he's going to be quarantining for, but certainly the trump campaign assertions earlier today that they were not ready to agree to any changes to the debate. but the president would definitely be there.

it could potentially change that and we knew and did lots of reporting about this. the changes about the debates on the ground rules continue until the very last second. before the candidates take sta stage. there's a lot of moving parts here. >> ashley: peter, i don't mean to interrupt, do you think this will affect potentially the vice president's debates next week? i've been asking everyone i talked to tonight and maybe someone will get in contact i know it's in the middle of the night and it's hard to get in touch with people, but does anybody know if president trump came in contact with vp pence or is anyone as far as kamala harris knows about the news. is there anything, any inkling of a chance we know anything about that right now? >> we don't know enough about that right now. i know that in conversations that i've had with some white house officials,

throughout the trump administration, throughout his tenure in the white house, mike pence and donald trump spend as much time together as anybody. but that obviously changed once the pandemic lockdown started. and they've had mike pence drop in as a special guest or an unannounced against at some recent trauma rallies, including last week when air force two landed right ahead of air force one and they pose together in front of a big crown. but we do not have enough information yet to know about whether or not this will affect the vp debate in salt lake city. it which is scheduled for i guess now since it's friday, five days from now. >> ashley: okay. it peter, thank you so much i appreciate it. >> all right, thank you so much. >> ashley: going to

shannon bream now host of "fox news @ night." they give are coming back without us. this is news that's heard all around the world right now. >> you're right. and we are just trying to look ahead to all these other possible contacts as he talked about with several of the gues guests. it was peter doocy who got >> at the white house chief of staff and his chief aide tested negative at this point. he's been with them in the meetings and been with the meanings with mitch mcconnell, senate majority leader, supreme court nominee amy coney barrett, meaning senators all over the hill. you've got to think about with any person who tests positive with covid all the potential contacts. it's always good news when someone tests negative but certainly for mark meadows because he's been in so many critical meetings and in the

middle of so many big issues right now. conversations working on a covid relief package. there's folks all over the hill and so there so many things that are interconnected. that's good news. we see a tweet go out from the vice president and second lady tonight saying they are sending their prayers to the president. it wishing them well. that kind of thing. the question becomes, all right, as he discussed, the last time he was tested and when was he in contact with the president, hope hicks, anybody else who's been in contact with the president or hope hicks? it's interconnected but we know the folks are tested on a daily or almost daily basis. as dr. siegel was saying, if the president tested positive tonight, he's probably been tested every day leading up to this. if they're cashing in, it's probably very early in his affection to show up as it probably takes a little bit of time. it's not impossible that the

first day he had been infected which show, but they may have been more than a couple days. we know every person the presence in contact with, it's very carefully documented and it will be possible for folks to go back and trace all of those potential outreaches. knowing that there is constant testing and the president is monitored by his position on a regular basis, inside and outside covid times, they will have a very tight bubble around him and every move, every temperature check, think of him and the first lady that there will be the very best medical care for the president. there have been a number of other world leaders if you think about it who have gone through this. donna brazile, think about prince charles over in a political leader, the kind of leader over in the u.k. this been a number of prominent people who've had this and we

can hope and pray that the leader of this country comes through as well as they did. >> ashley: boris johnson, who is symptomatic very, very ill from this. if shannon, thank you so much. >> have a great night. >> ashley: please stay tuned to fox news channel and this fox nation for continuing coverage of "the story. i'm ashley strohmeyer in new york. i know we go to fox news medical conservator dr. marty makary, thank you for joining us tonight. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure, actually we know it's the biggest news. >> ashley: tonight and potentially probably for a long time, what are your thoughts on this and i know a lot of people where stunned to hear that the president tested positive. you think is potentiall essentiy

bulletproof, where human and susceptible to it. >> actually, there's a couple important points to remember and first of all, 99% of patients who get covid infections recover and have a complete cure doing absolutely nothing. when you break it down by age brackets, hope hicks who is 31, her chances of a complete cure are about 99.98%. for the president, given all the modern therapies, it's a much more favorable survival than it was in the early days of new york. we've got to remember that covid's not the same covid that we had back in april. covid today, it's gone a much better prognosis, it can still be deadly, but the overall survival in somebody like the president who does not have metabolic syndrome's and at the age of 74, is still about 99% and that's the survival rate. there is a lot of therapy is used for people with symptoms,

perhaps the white house medical corps will continue giving the therapies to the president even though he does not have sympto symptoms. one of the reasons why we are seeing better outcomes is that the viral load may very well matter and it may be that the president's got a small viral load and not a large viral load when there's community transmission that was unknown back in the days of march. >> ashley: right, it's important to mention that he is 74 years old and that puts him in the brackets to being more susceptible. a higher risk, category, but the president seems to be in pretty good health. he's not showing symptoms as of right now were so far as what we know from our sources. if he does not show symptoms at all, is there any need for him for it to take anything at all? >> generally, we do not recommend any therapeutics for somebody without symptoms.

now, maybe dr. conley and his staff and the white house medical unit and he's a very good doctor and i've worked with him in the past. they may choose to recommend something like remdesivir early. typically, we only give remdesivir for people who go to the hospital. because of the high safety profile of some of the medications, may be monoclonal antibodies which were shown in the study recorded a few weeks ago to have activity against the virus and perhaps that is something that may be consider considered. right now, it's not clear that there's a significant viral load to move in the direction of developing symptoms or worsening. if we were to test a nasal swab on everybody he was near somebody with covid, we may notice that there is a lot more people who test positive relative to our general statistic on the percent of patients with infections who develop we don't have symptoms.

give it some time and that there is a 14 day incubation period and the average time with the onset of symptoms is six days in the most contagious period is 24 hours before the onset of symptoms. that's why it may be that say the virus was acquired from somebody else who is tested frequently, maybe they were tested at a point when they were not as contagious as typically we have seen in the 24 hours before symptoms. >> ashley: writes. there is also the steroid inhalers that something that's been tossed around a lot for use with covid-19. what are your thoughts on the inhalers? as far as a treatment for this? >> right now, the current gold standard of care is to not treat anybody without symptoms with anything. but because there's ongoing trials of certain things to sort of prevent the worsening of

covid or the development of symptoms, they may be that steroids, which are currently in trials to evaluate their effectiveness, and the recent emetic stage, it might be that because the high safety profile and given the stayed with the head of state having the infection. it's going to be something that the medical or di core will consider. somebody in the situation will have a full recovery doing absolutely nothing so i think if you take a close look every single day at progress and recheck and probably have more information than we have access to, such as the degree of the viral load, i am confident that they will be making better decisions. we are seeing the mortality overall come down and look at europe. 47,000 cases-77000 cases each

day. it might be a second wave in their not seeing an increase in mortality, nothing like they did in the first wave. it may be because viral load matters and it may be because when people use some distancing and there is masking and indoors areas as we know it's true around the president and has been for some time now. then we know that the viral load is a lot less and maybe the lower viral load is the reason we are seeing lower mortality. >> ashley: i want to go back to the home wearing a mask conversation. a lot of people say where the mask and you will be fine and i swear i've heard that 1,000 times. recently, we've seen the president wearing a mask hope hicks was adamant about wearing a mask. but you're still the issue of the touch and come on sneezing, the coughing and the droplets. how effective is the mask as far as preventing someone from getting this like even there on the screen we see him wearing a mask. typically socially distant from

people around him. that's the question that i have as far as the mask wearing and how effective that can be or n not? >> good question. at the masks help but they're certainly not perfect and they've measured the amount of virus that can be transmitted with different types of masks. a really good mask can be 90% effective as a deterrent and with a poor mask it could be 15 or 16% effective. >> ashley: i don't mean to interrupt, what your idea of a good mask and a bad mask? i see people with all kinds of things around their faces and what is a good mask and what is a good mask considered? >> there's generally three levels of masks and the best mask is a n95 mask and you want to make sure you do not have a two-way valve. if so you can breathe the sum of the industrial n9 n95 masks read the virus out. it's not designed to filter what you breathe out but the n95 with

the one-way valve is the most effective in the next is a surgical mask and we commonly refer to the benchmark of a level three surgical mask ends of the least effective is legal light cloth and you see those with something like a gator. >> ashley: writes. as far as the rallies that have been held outside. it is there anything for people to worry about he's been doing too rallies a night. obviously, they are socially distant from the president but there's always when someone especially high profile as of the president comes down with this, people have got to wonder if they have anything to be worried about. >> generally speaking, there is a study in asia about 3 33 outbreaks and to potentially involve the some outdoor setting. we know by and large that super spending events and outbreaks are driven by indoor activities. we know there's a lot of factors like whether or not the wind is

blowing. the indoor equivalent is what is the quality of the ventilation and what you think ours got scrutinized so much because they notoriously have poor indoor ventilation, people talking for a prolonged period of time, and at a high volume. you think of all of the air that somebody exhales, and if that accumulates, and it's increased by the volume and the length of speaking, than that's essentially admitting sort of a cloud of virus that somebody is infected with. generally speaking, we've been encouraging outdoor activities, we don't want people hugging, we don't want people to close to each other if they are shouting and screaming. and sports events, we've been encouraging distancing and outdoors is still relatively safe and i'd encourage people to be outdoors but if you notice the president even at the rallies, has not been shaking hands, has not been hugging people. that's a protocol for some time now. that's why i think the president

it truly has a virus in his system now, without a test that was positive, truly, an accurate and positive, he probably has a low viral load and that's good for prognosis. >> ashley: going back to the incubation period, just for those joining us in the president tested positive as well as the first lady lonnie a for covid-19. the incubation period that were talking about. say that the president is symptom-free essentially the whole time, testing negative and is there a certain amount of tests he has to have an to be considered clear of covid? is there a particular type of test that will clear him or the rapid good as the nasal? how does that work? >> great question. at this is how you get queried. if you have symptoms, you're cleared it ten days after the on set of symptoms.

we know you're most contagious on the front end and not on the tail end of the infection when you have symptoms. some people like to see two negative tests using a pcr test. the sensitivity on the pcr tests ranges from about 85-93%. unless two tests come back positive in sequence and then his doctor may have the confidence to say you're cleared to be out there. of course, to continue to use precautions. >> ashley: if you look at the video on the screen right now of

the president and hope hicks, i'm guilty of it myself, when they talk they'll pull the mask down down just below their nose and almost to take a breather, if you will. is this a bad thing to do because once again, you are touching things and we keep going back you've got to keep your hands clean, don't touch anything, sneezing, coughing, is this something people need to be aware of? a tier three mask, is this something people should steer clear of doing? >> ashley>> first of all, therek fatigue and public health precaution fatigue, and people get different impressions of the severity or the threat of this infection based on who they know, what they saw happen last, or a statistic or study that came out. it's important for people to remember that this is a very contagious and deadly virus and then two days ago we had over 900 americans die from this virus. just because it's not getting coverage doesn't mean it's still not out there.

just like the opioid crisis, because we don't talk about it doesn't mean people are still not dying. i'm very optimistic on the president's prognosis for a lot of reasons and we have knocked on the case fatality rate for this infection to almost seasonal flu levels in some populations. then you add another therapeutic that could be announced any day now, say the monoclonal antibodies, the monoclonal cocktail by regeneron, some other therapies and it may be the case fatality rate could be reduced to seasonal flu levels. still contagious, something people need to pay attention to it, and i don't want to say that there's two sets of rules. but certainly one thing that we've learned is that if somebody has the metabolic syndrome, and he combination of hypertension, obesity, prediabetes, diabetes, high cholesterol, those individuals are at the highest risk. along with kidney disease, then appears to be the highest risk

population and if you're in the high-risk group, that's when you should really take extra precautions. that's when being indoors for a prolonged period of time means that you need to strictly abide by all the guidelines to the letter of the law. >> ashley: doctor, thank you for being up with us late tonight and we appreciate it. >> thank you, actually. >> ashley: now are going to join in fox's griff jenkins in the d.c. bureau. hey. >> hey, actually, good morning i think most of washington's press corps has been woken up by now. with the stunning news that the president and first lady have tested positive for the coronavirus. this news coming just 32 days before the election, the news having far-reaching implications, not just from the president's health, but also the administration's response to the pandemic. the president often not wearing a mask in recent speeches and rallies saying that we are

turning a corner and of course the news coming just hours after his long time trusted aide hope hicks tests positive as we know everybody who comes at the close contact with the president is tested on a near daily basis. that news is very significant because we know that hope hicks was with the president as we recent as wednesday at the rally in minnesota. she was at the debate in cleveland on tuesday and before that the weekend rally in pennsylvania on saturday. she was there. also, news coming from our correspondent peter doocy, that the chief of staff, mark meadows, tested negative. a positive sign but ultimately, really we are just waking up here in the middle of the night just before 2:45:00 a.m. trying to piece together exactly what this will mean in the president tweeting out that he and the first lady have tested positive and they will begin the

quarantine recovery process immediately. he will be at the white house not at what was scheduled to be a number of events including a fund-raiser this evening tonight in florida. this all now breaking at this moment and it's not the first time a world leader has tested positive, most notably the british prime minister boris johnson who was hospitalized for a few days and before that. the brazilian president, but right now, trying to piece this together assuming that there is a quarantine and the initial process of 14 days that would leave the president 18 days before november 3rd. that's very significant along with the very obvious national security implications. the president obviously able to perform his duties from the white house, but we are just trying to learn exactly what the status of his health is and what would be the steps to put him in

a position to best execute the duties of the highest office of the land. we are now bringing in our correspondence from the white house to include kevin corke, we will bring him up shortly as well. also, it raises questions about whether or not this could have implications on the debate next wednesday. we are waiting to hear from the vice president's office whether or not that will affect anything and whether or not the individuals with th the presidential debates could possibly have come into contact with the president, the contact tracing that we have learned so much about is easy to do and within the white house, at the white house, the people he comes in contact with because it is kept in a very strict and detailed dialogue. but the commissioner of the

presidential debates brought in a wider circle of people that may have come in contact with the president. at this moment, we just tell you what we know. and those are the facts that come from the white house as we get them in this of course is hitting in the middle of the night. we learned hope hicks had tested positive in that set in motion a number of events that led to both the president ends the first lady taking to twitter, the first lady saying this. in her u.s. government twitter account, too many americans have done this year, we are quarantining at home after testing positive for covid-19. we are feeling good, and i postponed all upcoming engagements. please be sure that you are staying safe and we will get through this together. a reassuring message from the first lady, but sure to come will be much criticism as the sun comes up and we learn more

about this because of the president's response to the pandemic. downplaying its implications, the president 74 years old. certainly falling into the higher at risk population than we have been led through the experts to learn about this infection was disease. also, waiting to find out more about whether or not people at the pentagon have been notified and whether or not all of the folks that surround the president and his national security teams are all up and the move now in exactly how it would be that he can communicate. it not if, but how he can go into a meeting in this situation. we see now they are, the president with a mask on and something that he had done a little bit more of in recent days. but having been to many rallies, he's not wearing the mask at the rallies.

many of his supporters they are, not social distancing and mask list. at that will take a significant amount of criticism. we have kevin corke, white house correspondent coming in? can we go to him? kevin, good morning tio, i know it's awfully early and thank in thank you for coming in. the phones are fast and furious and what can you tell us? >> a couple things and i hope you can hear me, i hear you just fine. i found it very interesting. this idea that when people were talking about it and we found out on the news they were wondering, did it come sort of from one direction to the other? we learned about hope hicks first, but we do not know how it all went down for lack of a better description. if we can tell you that as i mentioned earlier, people wear their masks very seriously among the staff, but also as you pointed out, we've been on the road and we've been to rallies

and certainly i would say 64 of those peoples don't wear a mask throughout the entire event. if i can tell you this too when the president is speaking he's obviously more than 6 feet away from the most of the other people in the audience. i would not necessarily expect them to wear a mask while he's doing the speeches. but that said, there's other events in and around the rallies and other events that he's taken part in where you would expect him to wear a mask. he does not always wear masks, but i've seen him wear a mask and i think you're fair when you said a lot more in recent days, weeks, months and perhaps we did at the very outside. i can tell you this, my friend, whenever stories like this break, there's a tick-tock. we get word from staff, senior staffers often first and then we will come back and we will try to reconnect with secondary sources on the team. these are more mid-level manager type folks i can tell you what is really going on and off the record and so far, and i hate to

say this, i've had to make a couple very early morning phone calls, but i've been able to ascertain so far as they feel very good about the fact that he and the first lady are a symptomatic and they feel good about the fact that they will receive excellent care. they are very hopeful, that he will get back out there on the campaign trail but as he pointed out, after a couple weeks of quarantine. >> you know, the white house, they will be scrambling and mobilizing to put in place the national security component because of the implications are so far-reaching, the response of the administration to the pandemic but then also the national security implications in the tick-tock you mentioned. so incredibly important. we're bringing to you in the middle of the night, all the facts that we know and we understand that at some point hope hicks was feeling mild symptoms as reported on the

flight home from the rally in minnesota. she is among the most trusted, long serving advisors of the president and her news really set in motion what we are now seeing with the quarantining of the president in the firs and tt lady. lady. >> sean hannity overnight was very instructive and i think he expressed a great deal of compassion for hope hicks who obviously, as he pointed out, very close to the president and the first lady and he was simply saying at that point in the conversation, he and the first lady will continue to do all they can do obviously to keep everyone safe and they take it very seriously, health and safety, not just of their staff but all of the american people. i do believe based on the conversation then he had with sean that the president seems to me to be somewhat surprised by the fact that it happens. not that it couldn't happen to

anyone, but just in the newsroom and listen you've got to be careful out there but the truth is given all the particles and given the testing that has happened over at the white house, it's a surprise from our vantage point here in washington. >> obviously, no point speculating at this point because we have no idea but it's fairly clear that this will impact the presidents near-term campaign and there's only 32 days before november 30. it is certainly having an impact on going forward. >> you want to talk about an october surprise and this will oakley be many october surprises and this is a tough break for the campaign which in some sense was really feeling very strong getting the rallies going once again. the president seems to be rallied about that and to say the least, it gives him a chance to bypass the media and be a direct messenger to the american people. that said, they have to

recalibrate, you're right, because they have to continue to campaign and continue to rally if you will and have more virtual sense and that's not certainly something we anticipated as we would be seeing at this late stage in the campaign. amazing, one month ago, now the president will have to downshift to that before getting back out there. >> kevin, we obviously got a statement from the white house doctor saying that the president is doing well and that, you know, he's taking all necessary precautions. but we are likely to get perhaps more details input from the white house's decision and i would suspect that one point this morning or throughout the day. >> no doubt about it. if i were to predict i would imagine that they will do something bright and early in they will probably follow up with something later in the afternoon and perhaps even depending on how they feel about this and the president himself may want to tell the american

people exactly what's happening from his vantage point. if i want to pass it along and we had a chance to share with the folks at home the tweets by the first lady, but we by the president. if i don't want to overlook the president, we send our love and prayers toward president of donald trump in the first lady melania trump. we join millions across the country praying for the phone swift recovery and god bless you, president trump, and our wonderful first lady, milani. did not want to leave him on the bed because there's a lot of people who joined the vice president and sending out prayers for the safe and full recovery and the president and the first lady. >> you mentioned the vice president the vice president will be front and center on the debate next week in salt lake city when vice president pence and senator kamala harris meet face-to-face. >> if ever there were a circumstance where it truly underscores the importance of

having a very strong vice president, this is certainly that circumstance. we're talking about two gentlemen who are running for president and obviously up in age and now two vic vice presidential candidates, kamala harris and the dumb are not demonic democratic nominee, the conversation again will now shift a bit because i'm sure a lot of people around the country i think it's fair to say will be thinking perhaps a little bit more carefully about who they ao be voting in a month because it's not the person of the top of the ticket. it's a strong consideration for who is in the vp slot. >> 32 days. it white house correspondent kevin corke. a thank you for coming in early on the breaking news. we will send it back to new york. ashley strohmeyer. ashley. >> ashley: thank you. it joining us now on the phone is dr. bob and new york medical college professor of medicine

and st. joseph university hospital chairman. at thank you for joining us once again for the breaking news overnight. we've been watching and hearing and is there anything we've heard as far as the spirits of the president and how he feels, anything that catches you off guard or anything like that? or if you think this will be one of the cases to where he will be a symptomatic? i do not know if that's something that you can tell as far if he got the virus directly. it is that something you guys see or that kind of a wait and tell story? >> i'm glad you asked the question because this is what scares a lot of people. we simply do not know who is going to remain a symptomatic work who is going to really take a dive into the system full-blown. i have doctors who were over the age of 65 and 70 years of age who had the infection more than once. they've done exceedingly well.

again, there is no morbidities there and we know that president trump is in excellent health from his position. we've heard that. he's a little bit overweight, but that is not going to hopefully be significant here and he has no comorbidity which means heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, hypertension, and neither does me melania tru. maybe even they can remain asymptomatic. however, you have to be aware of the fact that he' you've had str athletes who have been in pinnacle health and then done really, really poorly. it's rare, but these are unusual times and we don't know what we're going to see. it's like russian roulette with this virus. >> ashley: that's the issue because you do not know how this is going to affect a person person and the president could

not feel a thing, and i think that's what's so scary to everyone. i think even people say i don't care about covid-19, but still, you just don't know how it's going to affect you whether you're healthy or not. that's what scary. >> that's right, actually. it is very unpredictable. we are beginning to look into genetics and other factors to see that you may look terrific and you may be young, yet you come down with a virus and you behave totally differently. we seen whole families do very poorly and while other families by dinners et cetera will do exceedingly well with the asymptomatic symptoms. we hope for the president certainly. >> ashley: the debate on tuesday, i don't want to make light of this, but his family was also there as far as do don jr., ivanka trump was there, and that is something not to take lightly i'm sure the

medical doctors are already very swift and getting them tested. >> yes, that's absolutely true. let's really look at this realistically and say that even though they were keeping safe distancing, after the debate that i watched, everybody clumped together and were shaking hands and doing the things that we should not to read with this virus and being prevalent and i would also say that vice president biden and his aides are also at risk here and i'm sure that they are going to be tested because vice president biden, the candidates, is also 77 years of age and he's a significant risk as is president trump. >> ashley: quickly, about 20 seconds here, just quickly, what is the best and test there is? the finger prick or the nasal swab as far as getting down to a question mark quickly here. if speak of the nasal swab is the best because you're looking at the chain reactions to actually look for the virus.

the finger prick right now is merely looking for antibodies, the blood that says you've already been infected. >> ashley: think you for joining us tonight and we appreciated and we're continuing our coverage of the breaking news of president trump contracted covid-19. >> this is a fox news alert, the president and first lady tested positive for the coronavirus. we are live here in washington i'm griff jenkins bringing you this late-breaking news shortly before 1:00 a.m. a at 12:57:00 a.m., too many americans have done this year and that's the first lady tweeting that we tested positive for covid-19 and we will we will begin our quarantine and recovery process, we will