either in families -- he has to show empathy right now. he wants it himself. >> dana: frank luntz, thanks for joining us. i'm dana perino, see you on "the five." i team like we were in cleveland a week ago, bill. >> feels like it. nice to see you, dana. profound days. let's get it rolling right now. >> where do we stand at this hour? i'm bill hemmer. covid surprise, capping off a wild week. 32 days from an election, president trump has tested positive for the coronavirus. he is now one of more than 7 million in the country with the confirmed case of covid-19. he's quarantining at the white house with the first lady, melania, who also tested positive. the white house says both of them have mild symptoms, and yet the west wing is trying to figure out how this happened and who else might be at risk. these recent developments lead

leaving the market wondering, and possibly heading into a weekend of high uncertainty. what does it mean on the ground moving forward? the campaign, the economy. in a moment i'll talk with top white house advisor larry cudlow about that. we have chris wallace, john thune, trump campaign senior advisor corey lewandowski. first to the reporters on the ground, peter doocy with the biden team and from the white house. when do we see or hear from the president, john, good afternoon. >> good afternoon. the president and first lady said to be in good spirits, experiencing mild symptoms so far from coronavirus disease. the president working the phones for a bit this morning talking to mitch mcconnell, lindsay graham and others. he did hand off to the vice president in a conference call on coronavirus protections for vulnerable seniors he was supposed to lead in the noon hour. the press secretary saying we may soon hear from the president. listen here.

>> i won't confirm what you will see from him but it's safe to say you will be seeing and hearing from the president as he moves forward with his working schedule. we're exploring a number of different ways to do that. but he wants to talk to the american people. i can tell you about president trump, this man loves the american people, loves speaking to them directly, nothing is going to stop him from doing that. >> it is unclear at this moment how the president contracted the virus. one of his top advisors, hope hicks, fell ill on the president's campaign trip to minnesota on wednesday. she was isolated aboard air force one on the trip back. she tested positive yesterday morning. the president testing positive later last night. one as text of this that is puzzling, though, despite the fact that hicks tested positive and the president had been close to her over previous days, he was still allowed to go ahead with the trip to immediateminister, new jersey yesterday afternoon. here's kayleigh mcenany. >> it was deemed safe for the president to go to bedminister.

it was deemed safe by white house operations. >> who assessed that it was safe for the president, who knew he had a test, to travel to new jersey, on marine one. >> white house operations made the decision it was safe. >> what is going to happen with the election campaign another question. a statement a while ago, all previously announced campaign events involving the president's participation are in the process of being moved to virtual events or are being temporarily postponed. the vice president's events will be continuing as scheduled. but one of the other big unknowns, bill, october 15, two weeks from today, is the second presidential debate -- two weeks from yesterday is the second presidential debate. what will happen to that? if the president has three negative coronavirus tests before then, he could make it. if not, they may have to figure out a different way to do it. >> watching the clock, thank you. joe biden and jill testing

negative for the coronavirus. peter doocy reports from grand rapids, michigan whereby den is expect informed hold a campaign event later today. they will go forward, peter. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, bill. joe biden is in the air. we have seen him but not heard from him yet today, he did not answer questions on his way to the campaign -- the campaign airplane. but we do expect to see that newly leased 737 on the ground within the hour. he is set today to have a modified schedule. they lost a few events. they're just going to give remarks at a food and commercial workers union building. and this event will be closed to the public which is customary for biden events as of late. although the last few things, dozens of biden supporters have been cramming on the street corners hoping to xwaet look at him. we'll see if that is the case. the waiting game after the nasal swab covid test delayed the start of his day by about 3 1/2

hours. kamala harris went about business as usual, the public waited to see if biden was negative. went for a solo event in las vegas, the staff says as part of the routine testing that they started doing after the convention, she tested negative yesterday. in separate tweets harris offered thoughts to the president and the first lady. biden offered prayers and continuing along with the out of state trip, today represents a major departure from this summer. biden defended his delaware campaign saying he gets coverage no matter where he goes and preferred to be closer to home. the campaign said they were going to start canvassing and knocking on doors to reach people they couldn't get on the phone or online. even though as far back as june they were warning it was dangerous when trump campaign officials were doing that. there was supposed to be a mobilization event today that has been stripped from the schedule. so it is unclear right now if that canvassing is going to

begin in battleground states as planned. we will update as we hear back. >> peter doocy, we'll watch it. thank you. the director of the national economic council, white house economic advisor larry kudlow, good afternoon. tough day at the white house i'm certain, my best to the first couple, please pass my regards. can you tell us how they are doing at this hour? >> i will, pag my regards. dash shall pass my regards. we hope for all of them to get better, including hope hicks and rona mcdaniel. the reports are she says they're doing well, it is a moderate case. the president was kind of barking out orders for all of us, giving us tasks this morning to follow through. he's on the phone. i have not seen him, last spoke to him last evening. i have not talked to him today. but apparently he's doing just fine. >> what time was me barking out orders just to use your words? >> early this morning, early this morning. >> is that 7:00a.m. or 8:00?

>> i can't give you the precise number. but he's an early riser as a general rule. and i know in my case i get some early morning phone calls from him. >> can you give us a sense, he has to be talking the hallways from the west wing, doctors and physicians, as to what they're saying or categorizing of his current state. >> i have not spoken to dr. conley, one of the best in the business. i can't relate to that. look, we all went through our paces. we got tested today. i got tested today. thankfully, prayerfully, i continue to test negative. we get them every day and i know everybody is following through on that. we're going about our business. the government is fuferxing, no question about that. we just -- functioning. we hope for a speedy recovery in the residence. >> you're negative, kayleigh mcenany, rudy guiliani says he's

negative. the jobs number came out earlier, about 650,000 jobs added well under the one million mark a lot of people like to see. how do you categorize this report? is it a b or a c or how do you say it? >> no, it's -- at least an a minus. i mean i don't know, people are knocking these numbers. they should look at them carefully. private payrolls were up 877,000 plus the 40,000 revision from prior months. that's over 900,000. the reason the headline number that comes out is because schools did not open across the country the way they normally do. and therefore there's a faulty seasonal adjustment which lowered the whole number. so take a look at private payrolls, plus 877, plus another 40 revision, and 7.9% unemployment rate. these are excellent numbers. let me add one more thing, last evening and this morning we got

the new automobile sales, they're just soaring. the blowout numbers. 16.3 million, double where it was at the worst point last april. cars are going out, and they have to be produced, because the inventories are low. that means more jobs, more work shifts and higher wages. >> here's the graphic, 22 million jobs lost during the pandemic. 11 million recovered, about 10 million not recovered. we're about 50% of the way. >> yes. >> when you talk about the covid relief that's being discussed right now, i'm seeing that nancy pelosi and steve ma chuch inspoke for 65 minutes, seems like a long conversation. trying to recall my numbers off the top of my head, i think republicans were willing to go up to 1.5, democrats are at 2.2. are we close on this, larry, or not? >> well, i don't -- you know what, bill, i don't want to

optimistic or pessimistic. i spoke to secretary manuchin, i know he had a good conversation with speaker pelosi. i think our view is we're in the neighborhood of 1.5 trillion, it's not precise but in that neighborhood. and we're still way, way below where the other side is. look, you know, we don't need a gigantic, humongous bill. with all respect i know there's political differences and ideological differences but we can do it another time. we have targeted key areas. that's where i think the rubber should be meeting the road in a bipartisan deal. we want to extend the small business lending, the ppp. everyone we talk to says that. there's 130 gillion not used -- billion not used. we'd like no bolster unemployment assistance. the president had an executive order for $300 a week, that's

not going to run forever, should be wolsterred by congressional action. we like money for schools. we need assistance for the airlines. we talked to the ceos almost daily, they need help, everybody knows that. these are key areas. we could just get this done. >> wait, wait, i have about 30 seconds. these numbers are nuts. but you're talking about a difference of $700 billion. during covid times. everything gets -- it gets messy. so you said 1.5, does that suggest you're near something, yes or no? >> in the neighborhood, in the neighborhood. i don't want to raise expectations. i will let treasury secretary manuchin handle that. it's not the numbers, bill hemmer, it's the specific targeted items where we need help. >> what about bailout for the states? is that a red line for republicans, can you get over that?

>> well, it is a matter of disagreement, considerable disagreement. let's do that stuff later. let's do the covid stuff now. the airline assistance, the small business assistance, the unemployment assistance. those should be the priorities. we can do other bills later for heaven sakes. >> thanks for your time, see whether or not there's progress later. ripple effects on the hill, democrats calling for a pause in the push to confirm the supreme court nominee after a senator on the judiciary committee tested positive. we'll talk to a member of the republican leadership. and 2020 advisor corey lewandowski was with hope hicks on wednesday, he'll join me for how the campaign is adapting and how he's doing whether or not he's covid positive. chris wallace shared a stage with president trump and vice president biden a few days ago, we'll see what this october surprise could mean. 32 days, again, from a national election.

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the debate stage days before testing positive for covid-19. everyone in the hall in cleveland with the exception of the president, joe biden and chris wallace, supposed to wear a mask although members of the trump family were seen not wearing them while they were seated. want to bring in fox news sunday anchor chris wallace. we meet again, good friday to you. looking forward to the program on sunday.

i don't know where we will be on sunday. i think at the moment this is an hour-to-hour story. when do we hear from the president and see the president. >> absolutely. we're hoping to get the top white house official available whether it's the president, the vice president, or the chief of staff to come on sunday because you're right, it's a breaking news story. i do have a piece of news because as i reported earlier today, when the trump family came, in although the rule was everybody in the hall except for the president, the vice president, and me, that all of the rest of the people were supposed to wear masks. the trump family came in with masks and took them off. they were offered masks by health and safety officers of the cleveland clinic and they rejected them. also it turns out that tuesday afternoon, when the president and his team came in for a walk-through, up on the stage with the president and all of his top people, looking at the podium, looking at the lighting, what the arrangement was going to be, none of them were wearing

masks. i can tell you, i wasn't there at the time, but during the time i was with the commission in my run thrus, everybody was wearing a mask. and members of the commission were not especially happy with the fact that the presidential party was not wearing a mask. there seems to have been a disregard for the risks of this virus. >> bill: the clinic had a rule, you wear the mask inside. that was stated clearly. if you look at the statement today, i'll read a key line. individuals travelling with both candidates including the candidates themselves had been tested and tested negative by their respective campaigns. they weren't tested by the clinic based on the statement, chris. and to me, that sounds like an honor system. >> well, they couldn't be tested by the clinic. >> bill: you were tested, i was tested. >> i understand that bill. but the difference was i arrived on sunday, you arrived on monday, they didn't arrive until tuesday afternoon.

so for them to get tested, there wouldn't have been enough time to have the test and have the debate at 9:00 that night. they didn't show up until 3:00, 4:00, 5:00 in the afternoon. yeah, there was an honor system when it came to the people that came into the hall from the two campaigns. >> bill: hmm. want to play a clip from tuesday night. i know what you said yesterday, ptsd, right? that's what you said. but here is the clip, a little back and forth, we made an edit here about talking about the mask discussion. this was 30 minutes into tuesday night. >> i have a mask right here. i'll put a mask on, you know, when i think i need it. >> let me ask -- >> i don't wear masks like him. every time you see him he has a mask. he could be 2 hub feet away, shows up the biggest mask i've ever seen. >> masks make a big difference. his head of the cdc said if we just wore a mask between now, everybody wore a mask in social distance between now and january we'd probably save up to 100,000

lives. it matters. >> bill: here we are on friday, the reversal of campaign fortunes is tremendous. joe biden will go forward with an event this afternoon in michigan, the trump campaign says all future events with the president and his family will not happen unless they take mace in a virtual setting. otherwise they will be postponed. this is a 180 right now. >> exactly. it is bizarre world, flipped on its head. joe biden is out campaigning although very cautiously with masks and social distancing. the president is now locked down in the white house and will have to speak through electronic means. virtually. i do think that this is tough news for the trump campaign, because if there's one issue that has been a problem for the president, a couple, but one of them is the handling of the virus. you look at the polls, people

trust joe biden and the handling of the coronavirus over the president by about ten points. at various points covid has been the top issue, the economy, race and violence in cities. the supreme court. now the handling of a virus is back as the number one issue. and you look at that exchange, that we had on tuesday night where the president seemed to be mocking joe biden about his wearing a mask all the time. biden saying masks save lives. suddenly that has flipped on its head in terms of its political impact. >> bill: i did not know that woodrow wilson in 1918 had the swine flu, contracted it in paris, france, appointed came back and was never the same since. chris, thank you for your time. see you sunday. chris will sit down with dr. tomminglesbuy director for health security at johns happen kins bloom burg school of public health, 2 clock eastern, and 7:00 eastern on the channel, check your local fox listing on sunday morning n a moment the president's bombshell diagnosis

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>> dagen: mitch mcconnell saying judge barrett's confirmation hearing is moving full steam ahead. one republican on the commit any the hearings has tested positive for covid. that's a development. >> bill: chad follows it off on the hill. >> good afternoon. you're right, mitch mcconnell the senate majority leader is

giving the green light as is the chairman of the judiciary committee, lindsay graham. they talked to the president and say they're going ahead. democrats want to tap the brakes. the serb at majority leader and the top democrat on the stit i chuck schumer and dianne feinstein say they shouldn't commit to a schedule when they don't know the exposure. 3 21 senators met in judge amy coney barrett and one with mike lee on tuesday, a member of the judiciary committee and he tested positive. barrett has been tested and is negative. the chairman of the judiciary committee, lindsay graham, spoke to the president and graham says infections won't side track the hearings. >> i said we're on track, we're going to start october 1, and we're going to work hard to get this wonderful, conservative, young lady, talented beyond belief, amy barrett, on the

supreme court. >> this is the problem. we have talked about potential delays. can they get this done before the election if they have a hiccup like, this maybe the committee hearing is delayed or maybe they have trouble getting it on the floor. that's why they're right up against it trying to do this before the election. >> bill: chank thank you, chad. my next guest is one of 32 senators who met with judge barrett this week, john thune. what do you make of the developments with senator lee and whether or not they could have an affect on the hearing. >> first and foremost like all americans, i'm sending my prayers up for the president and the first lady, for my colleague lee, and a lot of folks impacted by this. as you indicated, the leader and the report very intent, chairman graham, on moving forward with the hearing and the confirmation process. we believe this nominee needs a fair, thorough, timely process. she will get an opportunity to be asked questions, many of us

met with her earlier this week. but she is supremely qualified for this job. somebody that i think would make all americans proud. because she understands the role of a judge in our system. that is to apply the law and the constitution, impartial and faithful way. she is a believer in, committed to, respect for the constitution and the law. and we're looking forward to moving the process forward. obviously, there are a few hiccups along the way but if everything stays on schedule, stays on track we can set up to have a vote at the conclusion of the hearings. >> bill: october 12 is about 10 days on the calendar. senator mike lee of utah, we mentioned, tested positive. he could skype for a hearing like this, could he not, that would not prevent the hearing from going forward. >> no, not at all. bill, a loft hearings we've been doing the last several weeks, frankly, since covid hit we have the technology and capability to do it. we have gotten pretty good at it

a lot of senators are participating remotely. most of the committees that i serve on good number of the senators on those committees aren't attending in person, they're participating virtually. >> bill: we saw james comey a few days ago onscape. could you see a scenario where judge barrett would not be there physically in person? >> you know, it's -- my guess is that you would want to have her in person. obviously circumstances will dictate a little bit of that. but i think members could participate, senators, if they choose to remotely. i think if we, you know, implement the appropriate social distancing and mask guidelines. by the way, the senate has done very well with that, with a couple of exceptions, as you said, mike lee who has acquired the virus. but for the most part we've been conducting business for the past several months. because of the rules committee, the office of the attending physician, sergeant at arms, we

have implemented social distancing and mask policy and it kept people mostly safe. we aren't immune but we need to continue to practice those died lines f we do, hopefully she will be able to attend in person. >> bill: thank you for your time, appreciate you coming by today. >> thanks, bill. >> bill: in a moment the covid reality inspecting american politics. corey lewandowski on how the trump campaign is adjusting and his own covid status, waiting for the results as we speak. also, joe biden set to speak next hour for the first time we'll hear from either candidate since the president revealed his status in the middle of the night last night. back with that when we continue. there are ordinary eggs... and the best. which egg tastes more farm-fresh and delicious? only eggland's best. with more vitamins d and e and 25% less saturated fat?

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president trump's positive test. tracking the markets, closing bell less than 30 minutes away, heading to the weekend, see how that reacts. joe biden is back on the trail, he decided to go forward with this event in michigan after he and his wife tested negative n a moment i'll speak with trump campaign senior advisor corey lewandowski waiting for results of a test. first jackie reports live in wilmington, delaware. >> good afternoon, bill. joe biden's trip was delayed by about 3 1/2 hours as he waited for the negative coronavirus test result before pushing on to michigan where he should be touching down soon. there was one noticeable difference, as former vice president stepped on the plane he was wearing what appeared to be a disposable n95 mask instead usual become cloth mask he wears in public. biden will give remarks on the economy in an event closed to the public. we're learning new information about what's to happen with next week's vice-presidential debate.

pence, harris and both spouses announced negative results today while harris was not in cleveland for the debate, vice president mike pence was in the oval office with president trump earlier that morning. a window in which the president may have been contagious. after testing negative pence resumed campaign events. harris moved on with the las regular as event today after a negative test result yesterday and another this morning. they will meet for the vladimir putin debate next wednesday. the university of utah says they're still hosting with strict requirements for everyone to wear masks at all times except the moderator and the candidates. this week, members of the trump family removed their tasks in cleveland after sitting down during the first debate. university says there will also be testing but the school wouldn't say whether it will be done by a third party or happen from the campaign which is what happened in cleveland. they also wouldn't comment as to whether they will require proof of negative test results if the campaigns do conduct testing on their own candidates and guests. >> bill: thank you.

corey lewandowski, trump 2020 senior campaign advisor. also a book out, called "trump america first." corey understand you're in minnesota. by way of face time you join us. you were with the president on wednesday. were you not at the rally. it's also my understanding you have had at least one test and mighting be going for another one now. what's the status. >> out of abundance of caution and being around the president and a number of the members of the campaign team in the white house team, i thought it was important to be tested to make sure that i had no signs of covid. i have no symptoms at all but in order to be safe i want to do. that i went and took what was originally called the longer lead test, takes 2 to 3 days to get. then i went back and took a second test, the abbott test, which will normally provide results in about 90 minutes. so the first test was done this morning, i'm waiting on those results, that will be. to 3 days of the second test was

done just before coming on the air so i should have the results in the next 60 to 90 minutes. >> bill: any symptoms? >> no symptoms at all. i feel great, i feel fantastic. but out of abundance of caution for me and my family and loved ones and the people i interact with i thought it was best, i was the president and members of his team on wednesday, i want to make sure i was tested. >> bill: what about the whole idea about these events for the president postponed until further notice. they will only be virtual. what is the impact? you were there throughout 2016. what's the effect on the campaign. >> the president has always enjoyed and relished the opportunity to talk to the voters directly and in person. feed off of that energy that they have for him and he has for them. we're really back to where we were on the campaign in march and april where the president was communicating via telephone town hall rallies and talking to people through social media activities and through the television. so it's going to be a different

type of campaign. our priority obviously is to make sure the president and first family stay safe and secure and everyone in america wishes them a speedy recovery. >> bill: no doubt. to recount what's happening with you, corey, you have just had your second test, do i hear that directly? >> right. so the first test was a test that takes 2 to 3 days to get the results on. so i didn't want to wait that time. i went back in line and actually in my vehicle just finishing, the second what they call the abbott quick 15 minute test. here in my home state it takes about 90 minutes to get the results. >> bill: can you give us an idea of what kind of contact you had with either hope hicks or the first lady or the president on wednesday? >> i didn't see the first lady. i saw hope hicks, we were at the same event in the same building at the same venue. i had a chance to spend time speaking with the president. we were socially distanced, six feet in between him and everybody who was taking a picture with him at the event,

it was a small, intimate gathering. people were socially distanced apart. i don't think he had direct contact with anybody at that event. i did not have direct contact with him. i was socially distanced. both of him and hope hicks. but out of abundance of caution i want to make sure everything is safe on my end. >> bill: you spent a lot of time with those people, did you notice anything different on wednesday? >> no, the president was in a great mood, we talked about the successful debate, he was excited about being out on the campaign trail. nothing different whatsoever. he was the same upbeat man who has been fighting for the country for five years. >> bill: corey, good luck to you. if you get the results let us know and we'll pass it to the viewers asap. >> thank you. >> bill: stay healthy. corey wlun do you ski live in minnesota on face time, as he awaits the results of a second covid test he's taken today in the last 8 hours or so. you heard it here, the president experiencing mild covid

symptoms. so is the first lady. either postponing or going virtual for all upcoming events. our doctor is here next. >> the american people can rest assured that we have a president that is on the job, will remain on the job, and i'm optimistic that he will have a very quick and speedy recovery. ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

>> let me start by sending my thoughts and prayers for the health and safety of the president and the first lady. after they tested positive for covid-19. and joe and i pray that they will quickly recover and make a

full recovery. and this is just not a matter of politics, this is a matter of health and respect. >> bill: dr. jill biden moments ago in manchester, new hampshire. the former vice president arriving in grand rapids, michigan, going forward with his event. bidens both tested negative for covid so the campaign pushed ahead with the event. president trump and the first lady experiencing what's called mild symptoms, but overall feeling good. dr. jeanette is here, board certified family and emergency medicine physician, fox news medical contributor. welcome back to the program. >> hi, bill. >> bill: you have not diagnosed the president and first lady. but when they describe mild symptoms based on the experience you have with patients in new york, what are they going through right now? >> sure, bill. so many of my patients here in new york that have mild symptoms, it's usually congestion, runny nose, maybe sore though the, body aches, even a headache or fever.

but we want it to stay mild. we don't want to see symptoms progress into chest pain, chest tightness, shortness of breath, difficulty breathing. that's when i become concerned for my patients f we can't manage the shortness of breath and oxygen levels are dropping under 90%, that's when we have to consider putting them in the hospital where they can be closely monitored. it is great that our president and firsted lady are having mild symptoms, they will be monitored very closely to make sure their symptoms don't progress. and hopefully we will continue to pray for them. >> bill: doctor, how do you know at what point it's getting worse or getting better? >> sure, so if you are having significant chest maybe, you cannot breathe, that's -- chest pain, that's one of the biggest things, they clutch their chest, they can't breathe, oxygen levels are going down. it's time to be admitted to the hospital, put on high levels of oxygen.

unfortunately some people they have to become intu baited. some people with inhalers, they give them steroids, do an x-ray and look to see if there's an infection. sometimes you can have secondary bacterial infections and we have to give them antibiotics. sometimes we give them cough medicines to manage their symptoms. even here we give them oxygen in the room. so, a matter of looking at them, how do they look, do they look like they're in respiratory distress, gasping for air or looking like they're okay? hopefully we give them instructions, look, if you're getting worse, find that you can't breathe, you have no energy, you feel like you're going to faint, 911 to the emergency room. make sure patients have backup plan, emergency discharge instructions to know what to do. >> bill: we have better therapeutics now than six months ago. how do you treat early stages? is it sync or the drug

remdesovir? the anti-viral? >> i recommend to all of my patients feeling under the weather start zinc immediately. it stops the virus from replicating. don't be deficient in vitamin d, it links to complications and incremental death cases that we see as well. i am wondering if our president is put on a round of remdesovir. there have been studies in april, the nih conducted a study that showed early initiation can reduce inflammation and damage to the lungs. i wonder, if president trump's team is maybe considering giving him, if they haven't already, a five-day course of remdesovir or ten-day course. the key is starting it early not

waiting until you have bad symptoms. >> bill: are you in manhattan, have you seen many cases of covid in the last couple of weeks or even the last couple of months? >> not many but i notice and feel there's an uptick. >> bill: how come i have had nor patients in 2 to 3 weeks. i think it has to do with travel, fatigue of the quarantine, wearing the mask, social distancing, not evngagin in physical distancing. we've seen a slight uptick. it is important to make sure we don't let our guard down. this virus is insidious, opportunistic, dangerous virus, if we give it the ability to spread from one person to another it will do that. >> bill: are you of the mind, sorry, trying to squeeze in a lot. are you of the mind as the weather turns we go inside and that helps spread it easier? >> that's a possibility. because we've seen in the past few months that outdoor

gatherings for example, less transmission. when you're indoors especially less than six feet within another person, and spending more than 15 minutes with them, then you are at a higher risk of picking up the virus. if some one is potentially positive in that indoor area. that is definitely a possibility. >> bill: flu season is coming up. mortality is low so let's pray and not panic, to borrow your words. >> yes, that's right. >> bill: thank you doctor for coming in. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: we are about a month away until the election, several debates, supreme court confirmation battle and covid reality infection. now hanging in the balance, in the month of october. look limu! someone out there needs help customizing their car insurance with liberty mutual, so they only pay for what they need. false alarm. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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this is why we watch and wait no, way to predict what may come next. november 3 is when the election happens. joe biden made a decision today, decided to go to michigan. in fact he's going to be in grand rapids in a moment here and we'll see him show up there. i'll get this for you and finish this up. 2016, the state that went for the president by a whisker. just a couple thousand votes from the state of michigan. joe biden and brad brown, this area, gerald ford country, in the western part of the state. grand rapids. we'll see that event perhaps in the next hour. as you look at the map and try to figure out where everything is going to break down, always come up here to minnesota, wisconsin, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania. the wildcard was thrown earlier today. two hours ago, the trump campaign announced that all future events with the family of the president had been suspended. and they will only happen if

they are virtual. we'll watch and see how that plays out. i mentioned salt lake, we will be in utah on wednesday, how kamala harris and mike pence take to the field of politics when they were featured on stage then. 70 million watched the other night, no telling how many will watch wednesday night. also with an eye on the markets. heading into a weekend where you really have a considerable uncertainty as to what can happen for the president, first lady. i think the biggest question of the hour as i mentioned about 30 minutes ago, the question now is when do we hear from him and when do we see him. when do the doctors tell us his current condition. a lot of people made the comparison with boris johnson in the u.k. throughout the day today. we can't say that now, boris johnson was later taken to the hospital, took about a month to recover. there's no way of suggesting even for the moment that the president is facing a situation that boris johnson did. however, as we wait, we all hope and pray and hold our breath for

the best that the commander in chief of the greatest country in the world is going to be a-okay. until then we'll be back at 3:00 eastern. set your dvr. never miss a report. neil is coming up next, the markets are hanging on. north carolina all right, thank you -- >> the markets more than hung on, it was lot worse, down close to 500 points, that was then, a comeback for the market, all over the map and all again on indications that the president has, indeed, tested positive for the coronavirus. we are waiting to hear in the next half hour or so from joe biden who has already indicating he tested negative for the virus. so, too, his wife, dr. jill biden. he will be in grand rapids, michigan when he takes to that podium to address the fast moving developments today, we will take you there. there have been a lot of fast moving developments as well on the