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even with that protection, the president could still get it, it says a lot about this virus. >> neil: change the whole landscape. chris wallace, thank you very, very much my friend. we will explore this in greater detail tomorrow. the fallout from all of this. meanwhile, here is "the five." >> dana: hello, everyone. i am dana perino with dana mcdowell, juan williams, greg gutfeld, jesse watters. president trump on the first lady and quarantine after testing positive for covid-19. the news upending an already chaotic campaign season with the election 32 days away. the president and first lady experiencing mild symptoms but they are said to be in good spirits. we go to john roberts at the white house with more. >> good afternoon. the president's physician,
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dr. sean connolly, releasing a statement giving us an update of what the president's situation is. let's put it on the screen so you can follow along. "following pcr confirmation of the president's diagnosis," and this is the test where they stick that swab way, way up your nose. "as a precautionary measure he received a single dose of a polyclonal antibody, an experimental drug that hasn't received fda approval. the president has been taking zinc, vitamin d which boosts immune systems, the generic form of pepcid, melatonin, daily aspirin" as of this afternoon the president remains fatigued but in good spirits. he will be evaluated with a team. they will be making recommendations to the president and first lady. nothing in there about texting hydroxychloroquine, as the president did preventively back in may along with azithromycin
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and zinc. in terms of the timeline, we know the president was with hope hicks, a close advisor, on several recent campaign events including one to minnesota on wednesday where ms. hicks became ill and was isolated aboard air force one on the way back. the president testing positive for coronavirus later on thursday. hope hicks had tested positive earlier in the day. the president is still taking a trip to bedminster, new jersey. here's what mark meadows, the chief of staff, set about the timing of all of it. >> in terms of hope hicks, we discovered it right as marine one was taking off yesterday. we pulled some people that had been traveling and in close contact. the reason why it was reported out frankly is because we had already started the contact tracing just prior to that. >> we were talking about this
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earlier, it's kind of puzzling that the president, knowing he had exposure, close exposure to someone who just tested positive for coronavirus commode of taking that trip. it was a fund-raising roundtable to his golf resort in bedminster. here's what kayleigh mcenany said earlier today. >> it was deemed safe for the president to go. he socially distance. it was an outdoor event and it was deemed safe by white house operations. >> who exactly said it was safe for the president, even though he had exposure, to travel to new jersey. marine one, air force one. >> white house operations made the assessment. >> we are waiting for those next steps as dr. sean connolly put it. we don't know what those are. we told that the president is still suffering from mild symptoms but as you know things can go downhill very, very quickly for anybody. the president is in that risk area. 74 years old.
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he's a little bit overweight. as a precaution i'm sure they are watching them closely. we will stand by and give you any update on developments. >> dana: thank you, john. joe biden is campaigning in michigan today after testing negative for the virus this morning. former vice president reacting to the latest developments a few minutes ago. >> sending my prayers for the health and safety of the first lady and the president of the united states after they tested positive for covid-19. we can say 100,000 lives in the next 100 days according to the head of the cdc if everyone wears a mask in public. >> dana: we are going to take it around the table. it was shocking news, dagen. we hope that he recovers very quickly. sounds like they are all on top of it over at the white house. >> dagen: i think about all the american people, clearly the country as a whole has a tough road to hoe with the virus and the economy.
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they are linked. i think about, what can we do? what this country needs now financially is help from congress. nancy pelosi is dragging her fancy feet on getting that out to people. we have recovered 52% of the jobs that were lost in march and april. the jobs recovery is slowing. incomes are following. permanent job losses are rising. literally it is a matter of $1.6 trillion versus nancy pelosi's $2.2 trillion. money will go out to people unemployed. the democrat filibustered the deal that was in front of the senate. it was going to be help for the unemployed, for children in schools and small businesses. where are they. are they looking at the situation as an opportunity for them to wait until after the election to gain more power rather than doing what is right for americans? >> dana: it looks like there's been some forward movement to get that done.
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i think if they get it to the president, he will sign it that would be a really good thing. it includes money for testing for schools as well as some businesses. greg, any thoughts? i feel like i should open it up to whatever you're feeling. >> greg: can 2020 get any more 2020? there is a bar somewhere. 1349 a.d. is sitting on a barstool bragging about how the plague wiped out half of european politicians and there is another year, 2020, sitting in the corner saying oh, yeah, hold my beer. this is more on october surprise. it's like an october asteroid. it is another first we are all experiencing together. we have experienced a pandemic together. there's times when we come together, whether it's hurricanes or pandemics or terrorist things like 9/11. the only thing that wedges also
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part is politics and social media and media, these variables tend to get us to quarrel. i'm trying to stay off social media and limit my intake of media in general. i just want to think about us as americans. not left or right. my question is, what happens to us if we don't hear from trump for a few days? will we get the shakes? if the media doesn't get their morning cup of trump, we are going to start missing him. we kind of got used to having the big guy around. you get five or six tweets a day, the producers like kids and we put it in segments. we are going to be really, really hungry for him when he gets well. >> dana: i'm hoping that we get some tweets. i never wanted to eat so much in my life. juan, it feels like a month ago we were in cleveland. it was two days ago.
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the day afterwards, this is when it all unfolded. >> juan: a point of controversy, what happened in cleveland failure to wear a mask especially among the trump family. i think we should say with that we wish them a speedy recovery right off the bat. it's not easy. from what we hear, he has a fever, he has a cough. some congestion. 15 that we have heard referred to. fatigue that we have heard referred to. it's going to be a struggle for him. he's got the best protection in terms of the best medical facilities, best medical care. all that is good. to me it's a her that anyone can get sick if the president can get sick. to my mind, it's not only that he has the best medical care available. he has health insurance. he's not going to get into trouble because an insurer will say you have a pre-existing condition. you had covid. that's not going to happen for
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him. we have to think about how we as a country can come together to defeat this virus. it is not only an illness that threatens us all but of course it's having a terrible impact on our economy. we can see it's ongoing. it hasn't stopped. now we have more states with rising rates of infection. to me, we've got to figure out a way to crush this virus and for that we need national leadership. i think everyone has to take it more seriously, stop with the politics for a second. in the way we want him to get what we have to say we want to get well as a country. >> dana: you see europe, we lagged two or three months behind, their rates are going up too. we have some time to think about things. getting the bill passed in remembering the things that worked. social distancing, hand washing and masks when you need it. >> jesse: i would also like to wish the president on the first lady a full recovery. i think they will recover. i know he is 74 years old and
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that's a very high risk situation. 95% of people at that age to recover. we wish him well. i think so far the white house has done a good job explaining that the government to still functioning. he is still in command from the residence. the defense department, treasury, secretary of state have all talk to our allies. seeing that this thing is going to get better and we are fully in charge. chinese communist party newspaper came out and mocked the president. not a good idea. the president still can campaign digitally from the white house. no one does a better job than the trump campaign with that so you're going to see surrogates out there as well. this is a big test. i'm not going to sugarcoat this. we have the access hollywood situation, impeachment, racial unrest. the president has to meet this thing head-on and confronted and get over it and i think he will.
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>> dana: all right, good comments. up next, dr. siegel will join us with the latest on president trump's covid diagnosis. [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.
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>> jesse: welcome back to "the five." the president of the united states has tested positive for the coronavirus and we have some breaking news from john roberts. >> good afternoon. we have known this was going to happen for some time but we are now able to report it. the president is expected to depart the white house soon to go up to walter reed national military medical center for an evaluation and a series of tests. just to have a baseline, if you will, where he is with the coronavirus. obviously as you mention, jesse,
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at the age of 74 and a little bit overweight, the president is in a risk category for the development of his severe coronavirus disease. doctors of their walter reed want to get t to a sense of whee the president is. as we reported at the top of the hour, dr. sean conley, the president's personal physician here at the white house, gave the president a dose of a still extreme mental not fda approved drug. a polyclonal antibody made by a company called regeneron which in phase one, two, three human trials has shown very good effectiveness at reducing the viral load of people who are not in the hospital. the president obviously has been at the white house all day. hopefully he will be able to return to the white house later on tonight. i imagine that doctors there will also get some sort of idea of what his viral load's. clearly there are much more sophisticated machines there at walter reed then here at the white house. the quality of care here at the
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white house is top-notch. we expect that the helicopter will be landing soon to take the president up there. there are cameras in place for the president's arrival. we have not been able to report this until now but the president is expected very soon to be headed up to walter reed national military medical center and of course our thoughts and prayers are with him and the first lady as they battle through this virus. nobody wants to get coronavirus. a lot of people get it mildly but as the president has stated in interviews and at some of his campaign rallies, he knows the people who one day were barely sick with it in the next day they were in the hospital in the day after that they are on a ventilator and seemingly a day after that they have expired. the president wants to make sure that he gets the very, very best of care, that his physicians wanting to get which is why he will be traveling up to walter reed in just a little while. >> jesse: john, things for the update. let's bring in red bear, host of "special report." bret, this is pretty serious,
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going to walter reed. obviously it's precautionary. but they are taking it very seriously, as they should. >> bret: we are told he's going to remain there for a few days actually. it's not just fly up there, get a test and come home. this is going to world-renowned medical facility right up the road in bethesda. he's being transported there out of abundance of caution. he, we are told, having mild symptoms. light fever, some mild symptoms of coronavirus. is a bit fatigued according to his physician. but he's going to be making that marine one trip to walter reed national military medical center, and there are amazing facilities there and doctors who are on top of it. but it's serious. >> jesse: what does it tell you that they are going to have him there for a few days? >> bret: it tells you that it's not just a routine in and
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out. you're not just getting tested. they want to make sure that he is getting everything he needs. perhaps it's more of this treatment that he's already received, as mentioned by the white house doctor, the regeneron john just mentioned. perhaps it's something else. they will be able to monitor him a lot better, a lot more sophisticated as far as the equipment there walter reed national military medical cent center. >> jesse: al all right, bret. stay with us. dana, i want to ask about the communication of all of it. the white house and the position of been transparent about the experimental treatments to present has been getting. forthright with the american people. do you see what they are doing so far as being the way to go? >> dana: i think that what kayleigh was able to do today to address some of the questions. there is a question i think, however they allow the president to travel to bedminster. she was very careful. in the driveway, she was asked a
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couple times, how could he possibly traveled. she said white house operations made the call. they deemed it safe. >> jesse: tell me about white house operations. who would that be? >> dana: i'm not exactly sure how they trump white house is set up but it would typically include, it's like your chief operating officer of the company. they would make sure that you are cleared to fly. for example, the secret service reports to them. say there's too much turbulence, they will say we have to have air force one on the grounds. the president might say actually i'm going. they can overrule him. the thing that's interesting about this, the historic nature of it, what john said is that the helicopter is coming. one of the reasons the helicopter is coming, i would say don't be alarmed. it's not because he has to be rushed up there. it's quite a ways from the white house to bethesda. you are talking rush-hour traffic. nobody needs that right now. a quick flight for him, his comfort, it will take ten or
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15 minutes for him to get there. i wonder. john said that the cameras are there ready to may be see the president. maybe he will say something. i think that would be good. if he doesn't say something, i'm not saying that's a bad thing. but i know there is an anxiousness. americans are like, can you tell me you're okay? they have done a good job to do but they have some clearing up on the other thing they need to do. >> jesse: kayleigh mcenany sang president trump or means in good spirits, has mild symptoms and has been working throughout the day. i would've an abundance of caution and the recommendation of his physician and medical experts, the president will be working from the presidential offices at walter reed for the next few days. president trump appreciates the outpouring of support for both he and the first lady." >> dana: i know you're going to go to break, can i mention one thing. when you think that president is going to stay at walter reed for four days, it's not in a
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hospital bed. there is an entire suite there for the president that looks like an apartment. i don't want people to get alarmed. you want to be like america. >> greg: share a room. >> jesse: let's take it to chris wallace, host of fox news sunday. tell us your thoughts. we have the experimental cocktail the president is receiving. he's going to walter reed for a few days. what are you thinking? >> well, i'm not a doctor and i don't play one on tv but this strikes me as not a good development. obviously there are people who get sick and they are able to stay at home an end recuperate. we have been told, i have become a little bit of an expert on this in the last 12 hours, because i'm going to have to get a covid test since i was on that debate stage as well. usually if you're going to get serious symptoms from this virus, it's about four to seven days after you get the infection. the fact that so quickly after he tests positive the president
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is going to go up there and not protest, as was suggested, but to spend several days of their trade let's put it bluntly. the president is being hospitalized for the coronavirus. we all hope and we all pray that this is a quick and dramatic recovery. but this is not good news. you've got to know that everybody at the white house realizes they are 32 days away from an election and that the president going to the hospital as opposed to being able to recuperate at home is going to have a political impact. that they wouldn't be doing this out of an abundance of caution. they are doing this because they think this is the right way to treat the president and his current situation. >> jesse: yes and we are all praying for the president for a speedy recovery. please stand by. chris. let's go to john roberts at the white house. there may be some action with marine one. john. >> good afternoon to you.
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marine one has landed on the south lawn of the white house. it usually takes a few minutes for the president to get out there. it'll be interesting to see if the president walks out of the helicopter which i imagine he probably will given the description of his symptoms from seasean conley, his doctor. perhaps he will stop and talk with the press pool that is there for all the helicopter departures. maybe he will let us know he's doing all right. out of an abundance of caution, according to the statement from press secretary kayleigh mcenany. dana was talking about this, she has been to walter reed more often than i have. by virtue of her position with the bush administration. there was an entire suite of offices up there to support the president of the united states and he'll be working out of that suite for the next couple days. clearly it's an indication that they want to make sure that they stay on top of it. again, great facilities here at the white house. there is a dedicated medical
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office here at the white house. the president has got a dedicated physician. there are personnel here 24/7. when the leader of the free world comes down with coronavirus, you want to make sure that you've got that person in a place where care can be administered at the highest level and immediately. so that if the president were to begin, to go downhill which we hope and pray he won't, they have the facility to immediately treat it. i found it very interesting today that the president has been treated with this experimental, it's called a polyclonal antibody. we have heard of monoclonal antibodies. is the polyclonal antibody which has been shown effective in reducing viral load. it's the one thing you want to make sure here. not to play amateur physician. i know a little bit about this by former physician, she should medical correspondent from another network. the viral load can in trickle increase very rapidly.
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they want to try to make sure that they keep it down to that they stay ahead of the game. the president is taking zinc which is known to be a good thing to stimulate the immune system and prevent viral replication, as well as vitamin d. they have discovered through research that people who succumb to coronavirus often have a deficit of vitamin d. they want to make sure that the president keeps up on that as well. we've got cameras on the south lawn that will get the departure. we will show you that on tape when marine one has lifted off for walter reed. jesse, stay tuned. >> jesse: thank you, john. we will get back to you momentarily. >> juan: what struck me, boris johnson, the prime minister of britain, when he got this, everybody said it's mild. he'll be okay. boris johnson i think it's in his mid-50s. he's about 20 years younger than our president.
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boris johnson ended up not only in a hospital but on a ventilator and was in bad shape. he's recovered thankfully. i think it's a reminder of how things can start out looking pretty mild and then develop badly. i think that's why, you know, talking to dana about the messaging from the white house. trying to brush this off and downplay it is not the right thing to do. >> jesse: i don't think anybody's doing that. >> greg: i don't think anyone is downplaying it. let's slow the alarm down. you have mild symptoms, of course you can recuperate at home. unless you are the fricking president of the united states. he's not like me. he's not like you. he's not like any of us. he has this at his fingertips, the president of the united states, they're going to take him to the hospital. the idea that he's like everybody else and can recuperate at home.
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no, not really. what i'm interested in. when they say he's got good spirits. i keep thinking he's got to hate this. he doesn't strike me as a guy that's good at being sick. i don't see him agreeing to bed rest and chicken soup. we kind of know this already about his psyche. he likes to get up and fight. that's one thing i would like to hear more about. i would sense this is probably driving him more crazy than it is hindering his health. >> jesse: we might hear from the president as a marine one has touched down at the white house. he's being taken to walter reed for some examinations. let's bring in martha maccallum, host of "the story." martha, you were in cleveland covering the presidential debates. you have kind of seen this develop over the last couple days. what are your thoughts as things are breaking quickly here? >> i spoke to someone at the
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white house about 25 minutes ago who gave us a heads up that they were about to announce that the president would indeed be going to walter reed medical center, that he would be leaving on marine one. they expect he will walk out to marine one. likely at least waved everybody. i don't know if he's going to take any questions or not but this sort of accomplishes a couple goals, the first and most important one as it gets him in environment will hear -- where he will have access to the best medical care. as greg points out, he's the leader of the free world, the president of the united states of america. we need to take all abilities and precautions to make sure we can get them healthy and get him through this as quickly as possible so we can carry on with the business of running the country. it achieves another goal. everyone wants to get their eyes on the president, wants to see them walk across and waived everybody and give the country some assurance that the symptoms are indeed mild. the other point is, this is
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serious, he has coronavirus. he's in his 70s. they don't want this t to go ina bad direction. he's in the early stages. it can take five to seven days for the symptoms to onset. i think we're going to sort of be tracing this back to a number of events over the past week or so. when he may have first contracted this. the idea that he's probably had it for a while is something i think goes along with everything thing we've learned about this virus. obviously we've got all eyes on marine one watching this very closely and waiting for the president to emerge. he's going to be there for at least a few days i was told, working from the office is there. doing his job as best he can. >> jesse: thanks, martha. let's bring back bret baier, host of "special report." as martha said, you're going to see the president momentarily going to the chopper. that image of the president who has been diagnosed with coronavirus, going to walter reed for examination. that will be an image that will be seen by our allies, our
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enemies, the entire country in real time probably. this is going to be a very, very powerful image. >> bret: it is. it's important. i agree with dana. if the president could say something, i think it would be beneficial. if he doesn't and he is seen, that's also beneficial. from their perspective i think. "abc news" reporting that he is going out in abundance of caution but they are citing sources who say that he had a spiking fever, chills and a cough. we haven't confirmed it independently but those are the symptoms of coronavirus in the early stages. greg is right. we need to take a breath. this is him going to the hospital, the best hospital in our area, walter reed national medical military center where he will have an office and access to the best doctors in this field. i agree it's a big moment just to see him at this time.
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>> jesse: thanks, bret we have kristin fisher at walter reed medical center. kristin, tell us what you are hearing and seeing. >> right now there is a whole bunch of press lined up down the street just outside walter reed medical center which is about 20 minute drive north from the white house. we are waiting for marine one to touchdown after president trump to go inside. we've heard the white house press secretary say in a statement that the reason president trump is coming here is out of an abundance of caution. i have talked to quite a few folks within the white house and they say that we all know things can go downhill very quickly for anybody who has covid-19. so the thinking here is that they want president trump to be here out an and of an abundancef caution. one of the hallmarks of covid-19 is that things can go downhill very quickly.
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in no way saying that that's what's happening to president trump here but it's very significant that he's being brought here. as you know, jesse, there are pretty significant medical facilities inside the white house. there's a doctor there that's staff full time just in case there's any sort of medical emergency with the president or any members of his senior staff. the fact that that's not enough, that they want to bring president trump here to the state-of-the-art medical facility with an assortment of different tests and more robust options available to the leader of the free world, that's a significant development indeed. now we are starting to see some onlookers show up here is the media gathers in as the crowd gathers, starting to wonder what exactly is going on. truly just a remarkable 24 hours here as we all wait to see and hope to see a very healthy president trump walking out to marine one moments from now. we know he's been quite fatigued
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today according to the press secretary. the world, our adversaries in our allies will be watching when president trump makes his way right here to walter reed any minute now. jesse. >> jesse: thanks. we hope to see the president walking, in good spirits, to marine one momentarily. let's bring in dr. marc siegel, fox news medical contributor. dr. siegel, you've heard from the president's dr. and you always see understand the cocktail he's going to be administered. it's an experimental cocktail. what do you think about the regime, the medical regime being administered to the president of the united states? >> i want to talk about that and then i want to talk about what he's going to face in the hospital and real medical terms. we haven't done that yet. the cocktail actually makes a lot of sense. aspirin, because we've seen a lot of blood clots with covid-19, and i'm going to talk about that with walter reed. we don't know if aspirin works. it may help.
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vitamin d deficiency, if you don't have enough vitamin d, there's been studies that have shown that patients that are deficient don't do as well. pepcid, a simple stomach drug, it's been shown that with that stomach drugged, they do better. maybe the acidity of the stomach has to do with how much of the virus is absorbed. using the polyclonal antibodies from regeneron, it's a bold move. new studies out looking at 250 people seem to show that it helps you boost your immune response. as former medical correspondent john roberts says, it lowers your viral load. we are at the stage now with the president with covid-19 where we want to get the viral load down so we don't end up in the second phase of the virus. what's the second phase? that's what we've been talking about for months. you see inflammation. you see blood clotting. what would that look like at walter reed and what with a look out for? they're going to measure his oxygen level. we have found out that the damage to the long that occurs,
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sometimes people are breathing quite easily but there oxygen levels go low. we want to monitor that. we want to monitor his heart because we have seen some arrhythmias occur with covid-19. we want to do a simple blood test to make sure he's not had a blood clot. obviously his temperature and we want to keep a close eye on him. that's the key. is he developing any lung problems, any signs of damage to any other organs? any blood clots in the body? what is his heart doing? that's what you look at when you're at a hospital at walter reed. >> jesse: thank you, dr. siegel. we will be back momentarily. let's bring in chris wallace again, host of fox news sunday. chris, you've been covering politics for many, many years. i don't think anything like this has happened to a president or any nominee this close to an election. it's uncharted waters. your thoughts. >> chris: it is. whatever you think of donald trump, he is the
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energizer bunny. this is a man of boundless energy, boundless enthusiasm. he is a couple years older than i am. when i have been with him off-camera in a couple situations, i have asked him about his extraordinary energy and the fact that he is able to do a full day's work and then he goes out and holds an 8:00 or 9:00 p.m. rally somewhere in the midwest then flies home. he likes to sleep in his own bed. gets back at midnight to the white house and then goes back out the next day and does it all over again. this is a guy and we have talked about it, he said i have good genes. my father and mother lived a long time and i have a lot of energy. so this is alarming. and upsetting frankly, when the president of the united states and a man that has such extraordinary energy and vigor
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is suddenly, you know, facing this virus. we hope it's a mild case and we hope he recovers quickly. this isn't the way we are used to seeing donald trump here he comes in. i remember on tuesday on the debate stage, he comes in and he kind of owns the room. you know this, jesse. the idea that in any way he has been laid low by this is distressing on a personal level. >> jesse: thank you, chris. we are going to pause for a few seconds to let our fox news affiliates join us. we are looking live at the white house as marine one has touched down. the president has been diagnosed with coronavirus and will be taken to walter reed medical center to be evaluated by doctors for several days we are told after an abundance of caution. dagen mcdowell, let's bring in you. the market went down a little
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bit today after this was reported overnight and then rallied back. this is going to be happening over the weekend. there's going to be markets to catch their breath. it's pretty serious as the president goes in for a medical evaluation and has been administered some extra mental drug cocktails. >> dagen: watching this developed, it seems to have gotten serious very quickly. i want to bring up some thing about boris johnson. after he was released from the hospital and recovered, he said he basically worked. he works too long at home. at 10 downing street and didn't take the virus serious enough in the beginning and that ultimately resulted in his hospital stay. i don't think he was ever on a ventilator. the used oxygen on him. i think it's a very good indication of why the president is going to walter reed so
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quickly. you want to have all your doctors and the facilities they are the ready. took greg's point, something he was talking about earlier, the president has such an outsized personality but has had a constant presence in front of all of us. all day long every day. he would be up in the morning before most of us were getting out of bed. he would be tweeting at 6:00 a.m., 6:30. do not have this vacuum. this afternoon i looked and i did get that feeling in my stomach of he hasn't tweeted since the announcement early in the morning about he and the first lady having the coronavirus. i think you're going to see a coming together of the entire country, i hope. not just with prayers and blessings but everybody joining together. >> greg: i wanted to ask dr. siegel question but since he's not here, i want to ask
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dana. she's almost like a doctor. >> dana: oh, no. [laughs] >> greg: asking why they were giving him melatonin to sleep better. is it because if you're the commander in chief, you can't take a sleeping pill that actually works? it's got to be something. >> dana: you can. >> greg: melatonin doesn't really affect. >> dana: you can. i think presidents would want to use it sparingly because you never know what could happen in the middle of the night. especially on foreign trips. if you're dealing with the big time difference and the president is going to be negotiating on behalf of the country the next morning with other world leaders and he needs to have a good night's sleep, then yes i think the doctors would prescribe something to help him sleep. it's not melatonin. i'm telling you i've never felt that that works. >> dagen: i don't know if they would want to put them on it bigger sedative because of the breathing. >> greg: that's a good point.
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>> jesse: so we have the white house shot up with marine one as we wait for the president to walk across the lawn, perhaps give us a thumbs up. >> greg: do we know anything about melania? has anybody... >> jesse: we are looking live at the white house. marine one is there waiting to take the president of the united states to walter reed medical center. he has he has been diagnosed with the coronavirus. he has been administered and experimental cocktail. fatigued, slight fever. the first lady has been infected with covid-19. she remains at the white house residence where she's resting. let's bring in bret baier. bret, what are your thoughts?
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we've heard from several of our medical contributors as we await the president to possibly go over there and say something to reporters or maybe just give the signature thumbs up as he walks across the lawn. >> bret: let's set the scene. marine one on the south lawn of the white house. if you look, you can see behind the tail there the reporters and photographers gathered by the steps. this is, you remember, the place where the president delivered the speech for the republican national convention. to the left is the rose garden and it would be to the left side of the screen the oval office, the residence obviously straight up above. the president will be walking out. we don't know if he will talk to reporters or not. this is a moment for america because it was a surprise overnight when the positive test came in. it's a different time when the commander in chief of our
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country is facing a serious illness. we are told that it's mild symptoms so far but the fact that he's going to walter reed national military medical center for several days is a serious thing. obviously thoughts and prayers of everyone with the first family. it also affects where we are in this nation as we get ready for a national election just about a month away. obviously all of this factors in. the biggest concern now is for the president and the first lady. >> jesse: let's bring in martha maccallum. martha, bret mentioned the political ramifications. obviously the president's going not going to be doing any political activity, no rallies for at least two weeks as he quarantines. we have a debated about 15 days. if the president recovers and his tests come back negative after two weeks, then we assume he gets on that debate stage. at this point i think it's too early to tell.
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>> martha: that is the fast-forward wish. that that's where we will be 14, 15 days from now, jesse. i think all the country, even though the country is very divided and there has been i would mention a lot of really nasty things, as we see on social media pretty much every day so i guess that's no big surprise. even in this situation, some of what we are seeing. you can't ignore the dichotomy of how the script is flipped. joe biden was in his basement in delaware through the course of most of his campaign. now he's out on the road. he's in michigan today and had comments. he went after the president after making some very kind comments about hoping that he gets better quickly and sending all of his good thoughts and wishes to him and to the first family. he said look, this is a trump economy. he got into, especially talking about women and how women have underperformed in this economy and the jobs numbers that we saw today. the campaign continues.
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it continues in earnest. the dynamic has changed in a big way by this moment that we are looking at. my question is, how does this experience change president trump? what will we see on the other side of this when president trump has been through this experience and we expect, more than 99% of people in his age group survive it. and recovered. we fully expect that will happen but what's going to be the impact when he does get the opportunity to come out and speak to the people, whether it's at the debate or sooner. >> jesse: i wonder, dana, for the president to be affected like this. millions of americans have been affected by this. he would be going through. he had an opportunity potentially to the document how he's feeling, how he's progressing to the country one way or another through social media, through video perhaps. i wonder if this does change the way the country feels about the coronavirus, depending on how quickly the president can
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overcome it and get back out there. it could potentially be a very inspiring story for the president to get better and then show the country this is what we can do and safely recover. >> dana: i think it will renew calls for people to wear masks when they need to. socially distance, wash your hands, do the right thing. i think all americans of been affected by it at some point or another. i want to point out, we are looking at the shot of the white house. this is marine one. they are on the north lawn. cell phone, excuse me. south lawn of the white house. you're used to seeing a different shot and that's why i'm wondering if we will not actually see the president. the way the shot is right now maybe john roberts can tell us if i'm wrong. maybe they have the pool set up. it's usually near the rose garden. the pool is set up somewhere else. maybe we will be able to get a different shot at that point. maybe they are allowing the president the option to say
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something. >> greg: he is watching "the five." >> dana: i hope he is and i hope he's feeling better. that shot is interesting to me. walter reed medical center is the preeminent place. if you're going to get medical care from anyone, that's the place to be. i also think to your point and it's a good one, i think it will renew people sensitive taking precautions early. if you have any symptoms, self isolate and try to get a test and follow doctor's orders. not everybody in america has access to walter reed. but the president of the united states is not just any average american. he is the commander-in-chief and the leader of the free world. >> juan: my neighborhood is where the old walter reed was. >> jesse: before we get to you, juan, the biden campaign is removing all negative ads. that came in. they are removing all negative ads on the internet and facebo facebook. >> juan: walter reed used to be in my neighborhood in
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washington. now it's over in bethesda, as bret baier was explain. i have been there. to sign books and meet people. i recently was right across at the national institute for health. and i've got to tell you, it's an amazing -- looks like something out of a different world in terms of the medical facilities possibility that exist there. the other thing to say is the last time the president was that walter reed, he became a mystery. we don't know why he was there. it's never been disclosed while he was there. there's a been all kinds of gossip and conspiracy but we don't know. that's part of the thing about this president. he has been very private about his medical history, medical records and the like. what is different about this moment is that now is going to have to be a degree of openness. you can't just brush it off, as you rightly said. the president has covid and he's being taken to hospital.
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the whole notion of taking coronavirus seriously and wearing a mask and the like is something that he now i think is in a position to speak to with power. i think it really can make a difference as we go into the colder months. as we see the uptick in infection rate. it's an important opportunity for him as a role model to speak out and be clear about it. >> jesse: just so everybody is aware, there's been no mention of invoking the 25th amendment at all. let's go to chris wallace, host of fox news sunday. you've heard that the biden campaign is removing all negative ads from the airwaves. it sends a classy signal obviously but it does send kind of a more serious signal that the biden campaign recognizes the seriousness of what's going on and is taking the necessary action politically. >> chris: yeah. interesting that we are told that the decision in the biden campaign wanted to put out the
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fact that the decision to pull the negative ads was made before word came that the president was going to be flown to walter reed medical center. they wanted to emphasize that. i think the biden campaign has handled this just right today and i would expect them to do that. there has been no piling on, no second-guessing. of what the president has done and his handling of the virus. we saw the vice president making a speech in grand rapids and wishing the first family the best. he went on with the campaign, as well he should. there's no reason for the campaign to stop at this point. making an affirmative case for why he thinks he should be elected. obviously it's a delicate moment. you don't want to do anything that's seen as criticizing the president or kicking him, hitting him at a time and obviously he's got a disease. now we find out he's headed to
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walter reed medical center. it's a delicate situation, and so far they have played it just about right which is what i would expect. >> jesse: over the weekend, the biden campaign needs to continue campaigning. you'd expect them to maintain the level of activity that they had been in the past. i guess they would have to probably wash their tone a little bit. maybe dill the sharper partisan attacks. maybe dull the sharper partisan attacks. biden campaign i think campaigning unopposed for the next week or two as the president remains quarantined and taking the medical necessary precautions. >> chris: that's what's so interesting and it's why we all got into the news business. truth is stranger than fiction. as has been pointed out earlier in this hour, for so many weeks and months, joe biden was off
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the trail. we talked about him in his basement. the president was out doing rallies and talking to thousands of people and appearing in person. now it's going to flip. obviously this isn't a political or strategic move by the president. it's a medical move. he's doing it to protect his health and the people around him. the result is he's going to be off the trail and to the degrees able to campaign, it will be virtually, the way joe biden did. joe biden has come a little bit out of his shell. he has a new plane with his name emblazoned on the side of it. not a conventional campaign, we saw it in grand rapids today and we are going to see them on the trail more, although i think we are going to see them very much wearing a mask and very much observing all the safety rules that we hear about. social distancing and all that. the script has completely slipped in the course of
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24 hours. as i said to my wife when i woke up this morning and i saw the sad news about the president, i said, it's 2020. this is the year of unforeseen and unfortunately usually bad news. >> jesse: thank you, chris. that's go to martha maccallum who has an update for us. >> martha: just a little bit of an update. they expect he's going to walk out any minute. they are preparing to get him out of the building. there is the assumption that he's not going to answer any questions, although with president trump you never quite know. i'm told he will address the pool in some way, waving or something along those lines. i'm also told that even though the camera shot looks unusual, we don't usually see it from this angle as dana pointed out. we are seeing the broadside of marine one. i'm told that the cameras will have a shot of him in front of the residence when he does come out and that it's going to happen momentarily.
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>> jesse: thinks, martha. let's go to bret baier, host of "special report." >> bret: senior administration official telling me in the past couple minutes the president's health condition, i'm quoting "is monitored constantly and his relocation to walter reed hospital should not, should not be viewed through a new prognosis lens." in other words, that he is somehow deteriorating. this is from a senior administration official who is well aware of the situation, saying that this is not -- it's an abundance of caution, yes, he's going to the hospital. yes he's going to be there for several days and we can infer from that whatever we want. this administration official is saying it's not because the symptoms have somehow rapidly increased or that he's deteriorating in any way. that's one of the reasons that we are going to see him in the matter of moments address the pool come cameras in some way as martha mentioned, likely a wave and not talking to reporters. >> jesse: thanks, bret.
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that's a nice reminder, you mentioned earlier maybe we were getting a little bit ahead of ourselves. >> greg: to the point about the script being flipped, the reason why it flipped and maybe it's a -- trump didn't hide from the virus. the reason he didn't hide from the viruses he didn't want america to hide from the virus. if he was going to ask america to get back to work, get back to work and experience a risk, he was going to do the same thing. he was going to walk out there on that battlefield with you and not sit somewhere in the basement and tell you how you've got to get back to work but not go out himself. i think he put himself online, on the line and the flaw being that is an optimist, someone trying to convey a message that we will get through it. he had to walk the walk. he had to do that. he could have scared the crap out of everybody but he refused and it goes back to his original point about trying to make sure
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the positive attitude is maintained along with a sense of concern. he took the risk. he got the virus. he was doing it for us. >> juan: greg, this is a difficult moment. we want to reiterate our best wishes to him. >> greg: i did. >> juan: he's a man who was very clear in saying that this was going to disappear magically. he was a guy who was mocking at times former vice president biden for wearing a mask, even recently. he is a guy who says what's with these big social circles? he's a guy that went ahead. held rallies in defiance of the advice of public health officials. the flip of the script is one in which he now is clearly insufficient to be the national leader in saying i understand the seriousness of this virus and i want us as an american people to get through this and
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here are steps we can take. masks, social distancing and the like. >> greg: none of the "i told you so" audience never disagreed with the experts. none of the i told you so experts said anything when de blasio or pelosi said live life as normal. people don't deserve the prize of "i told you so" if you didn't share the risk and make a statement at the start. >> jesse: putting politics aside, it's a reminder this could have been prevented if it had been addressed early on in china. the chinese communist government lied to the world about this. they covered it up, and they let it escape throughout the world and know we are dealing with the repercussions. it shouldn't be about republican or democrat. let's remember how and where this all got started. >> dana: we have marine one to take the president up to walter
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reed medical center. it's not a long helicopter ride. it can be a very long car ride because of traffic and disruptions to the city which i think they trumps have been very respectful of the people in the city and not try to make their commutes even more difficult in these times. it's a historic moment. you have to go way back in history to see when this would have occurred. i don't know if it's ever occurred this close to an election. i do think it's good that the biden team took down all the negative ads. they said that they had made this decision even before this announcement about the walter reed trip had been decided. >> jesse: i do agree with juan that this is going to change how the president digests the coronavirus pandemic here in the country, how he expresses his feelings about it. in a way it kind of forges a stronger bond with the american people over the virus. he's experiencing it. he will communicate how he's scary and sing it we hope he
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recovers quickly. we are watching marine one awaiting the president to walk out from the residence where he will be examined at walter reed after testing positive for coronavirus. let's go to bret baier. "special report" starts now. >> bret: thank you. good evening and welcome to washington. i am bret baier. breaking tonight, looking live at the south lawn of the white house. on october surprise the likes of which america has never seen especially in an election year. president trump and first lady melania trump are in quarantine tonight after testing positive for the coronavirus. the president will work from walter reed medical center for the next few days. his upcoming events are being postponed or changed to virtual. there is no word on how this might affect the remaining debates officially. what comes next, the president is moving to walter reed. our chief white house correspondent john roberts begins our coverage of his most
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