700 million packages could be delayed because of the shipping delays. are you ready for the holiday spirit? >> dana: i am ready and nobody complain if your packages are move. thanks for joining us. i am dana perino. i will see you on "the five" and here is bill hemmer. >> bill: we for your part of the country. >> dana: i love it. i feel mountain air. >> bill: and reserved the sunshine. standby. live in utah. i am bill hemmer live in salt lake city. vice-president pence and kamala harris will face off in their only one debate. my colleagues will join me here on set. and president trump is recovering from covid. we may hear from him today.

that's not conclusive yet. the president tweeted he is feeling great and looking forward to the debate in miami a week from tomorrow. an unprecedented couple of weeks with lots of drama. an election 28 days from today. 4 weeks on the calendar. jackie is covering the biden campaign live in salt lake city. but first to john roberts from the north lawn. good afternoon, john. >> bill, breaking news in the last couple of minutes. the president is rejecting the proposal from nancy pelosi and house democrats for coronavirus relief. his team will suspend negotiations until after the election. we don't know if he is really serious about that. t the saying we won't talk until november 4th at the earliest.

more government officials in quarantine because of coronavirus fears. the joints chief of staff will all stay home after from the coastguard an admiral charles ray tested positive for the coronavirus. he was in a meeting in the tank with the pentagon on friday and attended a gold star family event at the white house on sunday. the lot will go into quarantine for a period of time and are getting tested. so far the rest of the joint chiefs tested negative for coronavirus. an update this afternoon on the president's condition. his white house physician said this morning the president's team of physicians met with him. he had a restful first night at home and today reports no symptoms and his oxygen satturation is up to 97 percent. the president said people can't

let coronavirus run their lives and took an aggressive stance against the virus based on his personal experience. listen. >> i could have left 2 days ago. i felt better than i have in a long time. i said recently, better than than 20 years ago. don't let it dominate. don't let it take over your lives. we are the greatest country in the world. we are going back to work. >> democrats and tv commentators critical about the president. he is a taking a cavalier attitude to a deadly disease. the white house communications director said that under the president's leadership the nation made great strides in the fight against covid listen here. >> on this date you are the most likely to survive and get treatment for coronavirus in the u.s. than ever prior because of this president's leadership and how he prepared us to deal with it. >> president trump in a spat

with twitter comparing coronavirus to the seasonal flu. do we close down our country? no, we learn to live with it. like we do with covid-19, far less lethal. twitter said this tweet violated the twitter rules about spreading harmful information about covid-19. the president fired back at twitter, said repeal section 230 which protests social media companies when they censor people. the president want to gets out of the white house for next thursday's debate. it is likely we will hear from him today. maybe another white house video. there was talk of the president doing an address to the nation. that's late in the day to

arrange that. >> bill: we are on standby for that. joe biden on his way to gettysburg, pennsylvania. arriving a moment ago. jackie has made her way to salt lake city. getting ready for tomorrow's night showdown. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, bill. joe biden said he is heading to the fields of gettysburg. a focus is racial equality. biden chose it because it is a symbol of division and the sight of one of the civil war's bloodiest battles. biden talked about the crises facing the country, the

pandemic, recession and police violence and white nationalists. we will talk on americans to come together for healing after michelle obama laid the blame on president trump saying this president is using fears and lies to win to take the focus off his failures. >> think about what would possibly compel you to accept this level of chaos, violence and confusion under this president and be willing to watch our country continue to spiral out of control? we can no longer pretend we don't know exactly who and what this president stands for. >> senator kamala harris is hunkered down to prepare for tomorrow's debate with mayor beto o'rourke playing the role of vice-president pence in mock

debates. we don't know what topics tomorrow's town hall debate will cover. we know some of the changes. the candidates will be separated by plexiglass and seated more than 12 feet apart. >> bill: thanks. our team from the american west now. dana perino and juan williams. this is like the bullpen for you guys. getting word from the white house, nothing live. we expect today from the president. i was told earlier today he is itching to get out. it won't happen now. do you get the sense this campaign is frozen? >> dana: no, he might not be giving a speech but he is making news. he just announced he instructed mitch mcconnell to end

negotiations on the coronavirus relief bill and focus on amy coney barrett's confirmation. >> bill: until he we hear from the doctors, we are not sure what happens next? . >> the doctors said he is doing fine. i am not saying he is ready for a 10 round bout. the concern is he remains infectious. that's a big concern to the white house staff and the secret service and he is supposed to avoid the oval office. there is a great deal of anxiety at the white house. he wanted to give a speech to the nation. i am not clear why he didn't do that. he could do that from the white

house without leaving. >> bill: the diplomatic room is where he is working out of. diplomatic room leads you wear? >> dana: that's the one you see from the pictures of the amy coney barrett reception. i have a feeling it might be in the treating room. maybe. he might like the view from the diplomatic reception room. >> bill: sometimes the vice-presidential debates don't matter. you get the sense this is different. joe biden will be 78 in november and the president is 74.

>> you put your finger on it. and last week's debate was such an amazing spectacle. will we see anything like a repeat. or is this going to be substantive? the difficulty here is both have to make the case to the american people that they are worthy of succeeding either president trump or former vice president biden. >> bill: we have a whole day to talk about it tomorrow. these are relevant points. kamala harris came here last friday and mike pence got here yesterday. they are aware of the steaks. >> dana: and mike pence is well known and a good debater. people could envision him to rise to the occasion to accept the role of the commander-in-chief. kamala harris has to prove that. >> i see it differently. we don't know mike pence because he's been such a royal vice-president to president

trump. we are not sure where he defines himself distinct from president trump. >> bill: i am not so sure about. that we have seen mike pence in public life for deck kates. -- decades. the kamala harris insist on her views from before? >> dana: in the primary debate she was debating people with the same viewpoints. tomorrow she debates pence and he is good at it. >> bill: if the reporting from the white house sticks this is the story tomorrow night. last comment? >> clearly the pandemic remains the dominant story for the american people and for voters at this juncture. politically speaking if president trump didn't take up the oxygen, this is the main stage? >> this will be the main stage. it's a departure. it may be an opportunity for

what the president has hoped for, a reset. >> dana: remember that pence's other debate. tim cain. do you remember it? >> bill: no. >> dana: we will remember tomorrow night. >> bill: see you at ovid-19 rel after the election and the trump campaign director joins me live. he is salt lake city. and donna brazil helps us countdown to the debate in salt lake city. veterans, if you could lower your mortgage payments by $250 a month $3,000 a year, what would you do with the money?

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president today. can you give us an update how he is feeling? >> i have not personally had contact with the president. i spoke to others who have. we heard from the vice-president the other day. the president is feeling great. the symptoms have dissipated. the president tried to relate to the american people he feels better than he felt in 20 years. we hear good news from the president himself and the president's doctors. we feel good. the president never stopped working on behalf of the american people. >> bill: can you tell us when we might see or from him? >> i can't get ahead of the white house on that. i know he is either and in constant contact and his doctors

keeping up with him. they all say he is doing well. i can't give you a time when we will hear from him in person. >> bill: do you feel the campaign is froze nen time right now? >> not at all. the president spent the last two years to build-up the biggest camp -- campaign the world has seen. he launched operation maga yesterday. the vice-president mike pence and all the members of the trump family don jr. and eric trump and laura trump and black voices for trump and listing our enormous grassroots army. we have 2.3 million volunteers.

this is enthusiasm. this is something a grassroots army can mobilize that joe biden doesn't have. we will continue to spread the message of the president's successes and reminding people led by the vice-president until the president can return to the campaign trail that joe biden would instill a 4 trillion dollars tax increase on the american people. impose the green deal on every person, building and business in this country and give amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens and give them taxpayer funded healthcare. the campaign is led by the vice-president want when the president comes back to the campaign trail soon, he will get right back into it. >> bill: however, he is your mvp. you are saying here today it's not a setback? >> i am saying that the president wants to get back out on the campaign trail. he built the apparatus to carry

the ball for him until he comes back. we are proud of the campaign apparatus that the president built. the vice-president will do in person events in key battleground states and will start in arizona the day after the debate this it coming thursday. he will make other stops in other key states. we absolutely want the president back. we want him to know we are carrying the banner for him and so are his millions of supporters. we encourage them to fly their trump flags and wear their trump gear so the president can see he has the enthusiasm of millions of americans who will carry him to reelection. >> bill: okay. we will talk to a doctor in a moment. what concerns you about kamala harris tomorrow night? >> she's been around the debate stage in the u.s. senate. he was the prosecutor. mike pence will be very, very well prepared.

it will be an opportunity to expose the radical left agenda of biden/harris. kamala harris was rated the most liberal member of the united states senate even further to the left than bernie sanders. she is a co-sponsor of his bill medicare for all. it would outlaw private health insurance. i am pretty sure those will be points that mike pence brings up tomorrow night. >> bill: we will get to the issues then. tim, thanks for your time. see you later in salt lake city. in a moment the president's doctor said he is not out of the woods. the care he is receiving in the white house. and the pollster on how the diagnosis could play out in the campaign. we continue from salt lake city. come on back right after this. ♪

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>> bill: we mentioned this about 30 minutes ago. the president telling the lawmakers to call off the talks with nancy pelosi and democrats over the next covid relief bill. the net effect of that right now is it sent stocks lower. dow down 367 points. 20 plus 20 minutes ago. chet is tracking this live back in washington on the hill. what is happening there now? >> well, there is already i heard from a couple of people involved in the negotiations or watching them on capitol hill who are questioning the wisdom of why the president would make this announcement when the stock market is still open.

the market was going up a couple of days ago when there was optimism they were getting closer. house speaker nancy pelosi and treasury secretary steve mnuchin were talking on the phone. there is a floor and a ceiling. a ceiling for republicans how 5 they go can. 1.6-trillion dollars and the floor for democrats two trillion dollars. then you get into the crawlspace, the sweet spot. they have not been able to bridge that gap. in the democrats come down too low, they lose votes. if republicans come up too high they begin to lose votes. they have never met. the tweets that the president sent a couple of minutes ago. the president said that house speaker nancy pelosi is asking too much. 2.4-trillion dollars. it would bail out poorly run

high crime democrats states and said this is not tied to covid. he is instructing the treasury secretary steve mnuchin to withdraw and telling mitch mcconnell to focus on confirming amy coney barrett to the supreme court. you have a lot of republican senators in battleground states hoping to get some sort of a bill to vote on they could agree upon on and take that home to the voters before november 3rd. this throws out the window any possibility of that unless something changes very fast. >> bill: okay. breaking news from the capitol hill. breaking news on the president. his condition at the white house. we bring in a doctor from john's hopkins university. the fifth and final reception of remdesivir happens today.

how do you grade now the president's recovery and chance of an a full recovery from this point forward? >> well, he is doing very well. he's gotten the state-of-the-art therapy by the best doctors in the world with continual monitoring. his pull monologist is one of the best in the world. he got the steroids just at the brink of the inflammatory phase. that's the phase he is in right now. >> bill: when do you know whether or not he is in the clear? >> i would probably say this weekend or monday. look, right now he is doing pretty darn good.

he has a 99.4% survival with the data of the u.k. of a man who is 71 to 75 with one co-morbidity. that's the president. we are 85% on our mortality numbers now than in march and april. his mortality rate is .6 of 1% and doing better in week one means you will do better this week 2 in general. >> bill: another story crossed earlier today. the cdc is saying that they believe the airborne particles can linger in the air among people more than 6 feet apart. the goal posts seem to be moving again and again. how do we the public view this

latest claim? >> well, i talked to people close to that event. a draft was posted just prematurely as a clerical mistake. what the cdc puts out is not only guidance for the country but the cdc is a regularatory body for the world. we have know that airborne transmission can link for a long time. indoor settings with poor ventilation and speaking that is a high risk super spreader recipe for start. >> bill: doctor. thanks. come back soon. back in utah. senator kamala harris getting ready to take on mike pence tomorrow night in prime-time.

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the american people for 4 more years. >> bill: vice-president pence yesterday talking about tomorrow's big debate. joe biden will speak in pennsylvania 30 minutes from now. we continue from salt lake city where the vice-president and the california senator kamala harris will go head-to-head for the only time in this election. that comes as president trump officer from covid-19 at the white house. with me here in salt lake city, donna brazil and republican congressman jason chaffetz who utah. both are fox it news contributors. this is jason's hometown. >> thanks for being in the beehive state. >> this man can bring more than food to the table. i know all about him. [laughin [laughing]. >> bill: getting around to the issue.

what do we hear in salt lake city on those? >> that's the big mystery with kamala harris. she personifies the liberal movement. she was so far out on the left even in california she was polling down. we have not had her answer any questions about packing the court or getting rid of the filibuster or the green deal. she co-sponsored it. and wants to get rid of jobs in utah. good luck. >> bill: some downs to the moderator susan page. >> did you want me to pre-butt that. senator harris is a dynamic lawmaker that will bring

herra-game. mike pence will have to address why are thousands of people still dying every day. why have we not found a way to stop the spread of this virus? mike pence is head of the coronavirus task force. he has a lot of explaining to do. >> bill: this same question could go to bores -- boris johnson in the l.a. >> this really comes from china. i have no doubt. if you look at the past performance of mike pence as the vice-president and the nominee. when he went into that debate, he is a temerred person. a great communicator. he will be crystal clear in his

answers. >> just because he won't interrupt kamala harris 65 times and have a chaotic performance, i believe the american people want to know why we mishandled this virus? we mishandled our economy coming back. the president said stop the negotiations. he is saying to the american people at a time when they are struggle, i won't extend unemployment benefits. i won't make your lives better. tomorrow he will have to address all of those issues. >> bill: will the questions buy buyer -- be tougher than the questions last night at town hall? >> are you saying mom and pop don't know what to ask the vice-president. they want him to address the economy and editication. those were good questions. >> bill: were they actually

undeci undecided? >> of course they were. >> bill: is that an issue? >> if you believe the radical left from bernie sanders and joe biden says that's not me on the green deal but on the website it stays the green new deal. this is why kamala harris is a terrible position to clarify. only 60 seconds what is her position? what is the ticket's position? why is joe biden trying to have it both ways? he is trying to have it both ways. people see through it. >> i have to say this. you know the trump strategy at the first debate? i watched it twice. the first time i was like, really? the second time, i found out. trump's strategy is to sow discord between the democrats and the democrats. we are not going to allow the trump campaign to divide us.

we have more republicans who have embraced this campaign than ever before and former bush officials and former mccain officials and colin powell and so many senators and congressman. they want to have a steady proven leader at the top and that's joe biden. we won't allow the republicans to divide us. >> steady is not something that has ever been accused of joe biden. >> [overlapping talking]. >> stable and steady. >> bill: thank you, donna. thank you. >> i love you. >> she was singing your praises during the break. >> i love donna. >> we love each other baby. >> bill: president trump back at the white house. telling americans not to be afraid of covid. how is that message sitting with americans? frank will legal us next. veterans, record low mortgage rates

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>> don't let it dominate. don't let it take over your lives. we are the greatest country in the world. we are going back to work. we will be out front. as your leader i had to do that. i knew there was danger to it, but i had to do it. >> bill: that was from last evening president trump speaking after he left walter reed. critics say that message is irresponsible. supporters say he is showing strength and optimism. how did it play with voters. frank lutz, welcome to the program. can you get through. it don't let it dominate you.

how was that message received? >> it's an optimistic and hopeful message. this is the first time i have been on your show. you are doing a great job. the ratings are excellent for you. the president wishes he had your ratings. it's a good message for trump voters and bad for biden voters and the undecideds it depends on where they are. if you are in a state without an outbreak then you agree with the president. in georgia or atlanta you have a different reaction. it depends on your own circumstances. >> bill: i want you to weigh in on this vice-presidential tomorrow night. you read body language. you point to a moment on kamala harris earlier in the year. here's part of the clip.

>> it was a debate. >> so you don't mean it? >> it was a debate. literal literally. it was a debate. [laughing]. >> i understand. >> they are covering the debate of differences of opinions and issues. >> bill: that ran about 50 seconds in real time. we cut it down. she said it's a debate about 8 times. why is that significant to you looking back on that? >> well, the first thing is why is she laughing? she was asked a straightforward question. do you agree or disagree with joe biden? that moment in the original debate she almost took biden out of the race and now she is running for his vice-president. what is funny about it? what is so amusing about the fact she challenged the vice-president and the position he's took previously in his career? just own up to it? be honest and forthright.

i don't think mike pence will be mean or rude. i wonder how kamala harris is going to act. she asked a tough question of joe biden and now laughs it off. she asked a question about his position on race. now she is trying to back track as if it's a joke. it's a debate. say that 8 times. i don't think she says what she means what she says. that's very important. i don't think voters will like that. they want you to look them straight in the eye and tell them what you think. don't run away from it or make light of it. >> bill: we will see tomorrow night. tens of millions will watch. i know the focus group you had last week for the debate in cleveland left people

unsatisfied with getting information out of that. we will talk to you on thursday. frank lutz thanks for your time today. joe biden set to speak in pennsylvania top of the hour. and monitoring that as our coverage continues from salt lake city. we have you covered here on fox. ♪ ♪

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♪ >> sad news in the rock and world world. eddie van halen has died. in a statement posted to twitter, his son writing that his dad lost a long and arduous battle with cancer this morning. eddie van halen co-founded van halen, so much so says, so many years. he was 65 years old. another alert from the hill now. nancy pelosi responding to the president order the end of covid talks. saying walking away from the talks demonstrating that the president is unwilling to crush the virus and the white house is in disarray. that's her statement. we'll see how the negotiations rattle back and forth. markets reacting. dow traded lower more than 300 points. neil has more. big story from overseas that has

a direct effect here at home. a u.s. judge has ordered iran to pay more than $1.4 billion to the family of robert levinson. he's the former fbi agent that disappeared on a cia mission to iran in 2007. u.s. government believes he was kidnapped and died in iranian custody. rich edson has the story and picks up from the state department now. rich? >> good afternoon, bill. the judge says robert levinson's family has gone at least a dozen years without having an idea what happened to him after he disappeared in iran. the judge writes in his opinion, "iran's conduct is unique here. given astonishingly, it pluck add former dea agent from the earth, held him captive for 13 years and to this day refuses to admit responsibility. the judge says that is worthy of the greatest condemnation.

levinson disappeared in 2007. cia analysts sent him on an unauthorized mission there and this march levinson's family said the u.s. government has recently given them information leading them to conclude that he died in iranian custody. levinson's family says this decision is the first step in the pursued of justice and until now, iran has faced no consequences for its actions. judge kelly's decision won't bring bob home but will hope it serves as a warning against further hostage taking by iran. it's unclear how the levinson family will receive their award. the u.s. and the iran have no diplomatic relationship. the u.s. has billions in frozen iranian assets. the iranian got have not commented on this. judge kelly cited the case of

otto warmbier. he returned to his family with severe brain damage. he died within a week of coming home. in otto's case, the judge said the circumstances were so unique that it warranted a judgment against north korea of $500 billion. billion? >> bill: thanks, rich. good reporting there from the state department. back live tomorrow at 3:00 eastern and at 9:00 eastern. check your local listings. meantime, we're going to get upwards of 40, 50 million viewers tomorrow night across the country. the high water mark was with sarah palin several years ago. we'll see how it generates interest across the country. with the developments over the weekend, the president's covid-19 positive test, going to walter reed, this debate goes to a new level tomorrow night. full coverage on the cable side on fox news.

we'll have that tomorrow evening. salt lake city is beautiful. nice, 73 degrees and sunshine. we're happy to see that during these covid times. i expect to see the president today. if that changes, we'll update you. here's neil back in new york. >> neil: all right. talks off and stocks off. i mean way off. no sooner less than an hour ago we got word from the white house that that's it. the president has had it with no progress on the talks. they're going nowhere. he's putting them off until after the election at the soonest. that will depend if he gets re-elected himself. wall street continued tanking. boeing and airline stocks particularly hoping to see a deal that will give them flight again. now grounded. all grounded. all on concerns that these talks are now done. to john roberts at th