>> donald trump, but is invaluable time to stand up. >> it hasn't worked. >> when i look at their planet look like plagiarism which is something joe biden knows about. >> if the trump american administration approved the vaccine, >> donald trump tells us to take i'm not taking it. >> playing politics with people's lives. the american economy, the american comeback is on the ballot. >> joe biden will not raise taxes on anyone who makes less than 400%. >> they opposed the green new deal, it would crush american jobs. >> we see a pattern of this administration, they don't believe in science. >> you refuse to answer the question, joe biden has refused to answer the question. >> in 1861. >> answer the question. >> law enforcement has implicit

bias. >> i will not be lectured by the vice president on what it means to enforce the laws of our country. >> a good song this morning and the showdown in salt lake city. my goodness. mike pence going head to head with kamala harris for the first and only debate. you are watching "fox and friends first". todd: i enjoyed this one. it is not going to happen but i am todd piro, plexiglas dividers, each candidate making the case for why their ticket will bring the country together, fox news team coverage all morning long. >> we start with griff jenkins live in salt lake city. good morning.

>> reporter: the vice presidential candidates facing off in a more civil exchange, the plexiglas didn't stop things from getting fiery at times and heated, the coronavirus was front and center, and that was a big moment, watch. >> when i look at their planet talks about advancing testing, creating new ppe, developing a vaccine, it looks a little bit like plagiarism which is something joe biden knows a little bit about. >> the american people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country. we have to get a hold of what has been going on and we need to save our country and joe biden is the best leader to do that and this administration has forfeited their right to reelection. >> got interesting when the conversation got to a vaccine.

>> if the doctors tell us we should take i will be first in line to take it absolutely but if donald trump tells us to take i'm not taking it. >> we are going to have a vaccine in record time. unheard of time, less then a year. the fact that you undermine public confidence in a vaccine if a vaccine emerges during the trump administration, is unconscionable. >> covid-19 wasn't the only topic, the supreme court and amy coney barrett's nomination was a big issue and the question of court packing got testy. >> joe and i are very clear from the american people are voting right now and it should be there decision. >> they would like to know if you and joe biden will pack the supreme court if you don't get your way in this nomination. >> let's talk about packing. >> joe biden gave a nonanswer.

people deserve a straight answer. >> let's talk about packing the court. >> i want the record to reflect she never answered the question. in the dayton bait -- in the next debate -- the people know the answer. >> candidates traded barbs over the economy and taxes it got testy over fracking. >> you yourself said on multiple occasions when you are running for president that you would ban fracking. crushing american energy, economic surrender to china, a prescription for economic defined. >> i will peter the american people know that joe biden will not ban fracking. that is a fact. that is a fact. he will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than 400,$000 a year. >> i am speaking. i am speaking. >> it would be important if you said the truth. >> in the end they spoke the same amount of time.

the flyer his head clocked in two for two. will last night's debate move the needle for either candidate in either direction, the lease poll shows biden leading by 10 points, 53-43. today candidates back to the campaign trail. pens, harrison joe biden will all be campaigning in arizona. >> will fly get any writing? the question you need to ask. >> chris wallace says it was clear the candidates were only answering what they wanted to. >> they both ducked a lot of questions was her worst, refusal to answer, was exactly as you say on the packing of the court but pence equally egregious refusal to answer when he was asked what would you do about protecting people with preexisting conditions and refused to even discuss the issue.

todd: the top take aways from the night. jillian: a director of the bernie sanders campaign, thanks for being here. we appreciate talking to you. you say america won. >> it was a great opportunity for america to hear what both candidates had to say. a 5 relief on both sides, it was not to make a mess of things and mike pence, it was important he came out and was called, cool and collected. they are satisfied with their candidate like everyone else, complaints of what people who could have done better, a calm, civil debate and america deserves it. todd: one thing we love having you in his regardless of your political beliefs you always tell it like it is.

here's a question i haven't heard anybody ask in the postdebate stuff. did kamala harris demonstrate to you that she's ready to take over as commander-in-chief if something happens to joe biden? >> she certainly showed she was able to keep her composure, she pushed back when she could, she could push back harder but that would have been criticized as well. if i were her i would explain what she's done on criminal justice reform and take some accountability on her past issues, being willing to say what she wanted to break, we will talk about the positive things she is earning criminal justice reform like starting her reentry programs. she had the mark. some would say above it, being able to show she can lead. there is always criticism out there. i'm looking at everyone on both sides, don't think people will be satisfied at this point. most people's decisions are made

but she did not make wings worse. i don't know if the needle moved for either party. >> one question going into the night was was she going to try to distance herself from far left policies of the democratic party. we asked the same about joe biden going into the first presidential debate, listen to moments from last night. >> joe biden and kamala harris consistently talk about mandates, not just mandates with the coronavirus but the government takeover of healthcare. you put your radical environmental agenda ahead of american autoworkers and american jobs. kamala harris was the most liberal member of the united states senate in 2019, more liberal than bernie sanders. >> there was a lot of conversation surrounding fracking as well, mike pence pointing out both kamala harris and joe biden's positions changed over the years. afterwards aoc tweeting out fracking is bad actually. there were a number of things where it seems there is a divide in the democratic party. is that a fair assessment?

>> sure there is a divide but i disagree with saying she's the most liberal senator in the u.s. senate as no one is more liberal than bernie sanders if you look up liberalism in the dictionary, his picture would certainly be there. i don't think anybody can beat him as far as liberal is concerned. at this point the left is concerned about getting trump out of office. any idea of being objective is no longer on the table considering last week, those on the far left to do not support senator harris made their mind up a long time ago on that. those who support joe biden made up their mind, joe biden is not liberal, he's a moderate, regardless of how liberal folks want to make senator harris to be it doesn't matter, joe biden will be the man in charge, he's the moderate, people call him republican light. that is the chris is on the left. progressives have decided they are voting against trump.

at this point it is not -- more so about that. todd: the liberal label that attaches to kamala harris's record is based on the votes we've been hearing and bernie sanders is the poster child for the liberal left but we know you are awesome and we love having you on bright and early on the day after a debate. jillian: fox news alert. overnight several protesters arrested in minneapolis as police declare an unlawful assembly following the release of the former officer charged in george lloyd's death. todd: ashley joins us with the unrest. >> hundreds of protesters took to the streets of minneapolis last night following news former officer charged in george lloyd's death was released from jail at 11:202 am wednesday, posted $1 billion bail after months of being held in a maximum-security prison. the governor and the mayor of the city activated the national

guard. 100 soldiers and 100 troopers and 75 conservation officers were mobilized. minneapolis pd say they are aware of the current and future flashpoints. a judge heard arguments on motions including a change of venue and conjoining all four cases into one into dismissing cases altogether but so far no decision has been made. jillian: hurricane delta regaining strength as a category 2 storm headed for the us after slamming mexico's yucatán peninsula. heather: hurricane and storm surge warnings underway, delta expected to hit louisiana tomorrow. jillian: 11 after the hour. candidates trading jabs on election interference. >> he openly attempted to suppress the vote. >> your party spent the last 3 and a half years trying to overturn a result of the last

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for being here. at this point i wonder if anyone is going to accept the results of the election and if there will be a peaceful transfer of power? your hearing similar messaging from both sides. >> that is one thing the country does well, inauguration day, we figure it out, sort it out and mike pence's comments were well-placed, kamala harris talking about peaceful transition of power and just this week the bombshell news the mainstream media is refusing to cover about hillary clinton's campaign's efforts to do anything but that, before the will of the american voter they might have gotten away with it except they hadn't factored in the will of the american voters wanted something different, wanted a fighter for the man that was donald trump and one more point, people say stop talking about 2016. we are a month from the 2020 election and we know we have a shadow of a doubt that the

democrats will go to to try to get their way. we need to make sure the will of the american people is not suppressed, get out and vote and get out and vote for donald trump the republican. jillian: the president pretty much on every corner since he has been inaugurated has been fighting a battle against the democrats as far as the result of the 2016 election and we heard the clip play on repeat, hillary clinton telling joe biden not to concede for this election. it seems like i don't know. the argument from the democrats right now is that. let's talk about this for a second. attacking mike pence over the trump administration's handling of covid-19. listen to this and get your reaction. >> they knew and they covered it up.

they minimize the seriousness of it. of the trump administration approved the vaccine before and after the election should americans take it and would you take it? >> if donald trump tells us to take i am not taking it. jillian: we heard this argument from democrats a lot. if donald trump tells me to take i'm not going to take it. of scientists tell me to take i will. how calming is that for the american people to hear that language and for them to decide is it something i should take or not? we are talking about a pandemic that has killed so many people. >> plenty responsible especially when you have scientists and experts like doctor anthony fauci saying everything the vaccine has gone through his to the letter of how it should be and people should not have any concern about it being safe and effective. that should be it. everybody should join and applied in an effort to gather and getting the vaccine so we can get through the crisis together.

you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts and he brought not just the facts but trying to mitigate the risk of a horrible disease to keep american people safe and get our economy back on track and all you have is the biden harris campaign, nancy pelosi sowing discontent. and enter a counter to what we are seeing, trying to figure it out. >> they want a safe and effective vaccine. >> the american people sizing up mike pence and kamala harris in real time. you know what that means it is dial time. that is next.

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todd: welcome back. with just under a month until the election to the vice presidential debates way any voters? jillian: we carter, let's get into it. this is mike pence slamming kamala harris for undermining vaccines. >> you we are going to have a vaccine, in unheard of time. the fact that we undermine

public confidence in vaccines, if it emerges during the trump administration it is unconscionable. i ask you stop playing politics with peoples lives. >> you can see republicans gave this in a, independents a b-and independents f. the yellow line where the election is going to be. a lot of people were concerned in kamala harris's attempt to undermine the administration they are undermining the vaccine and that is the concern, no one wants the vaccine to be politicized. one of the biggest concerns is the fast track. this talking point doesn't help anybody. >> the iran nuclear deal. >> look at the iran nuclear deal which put us in the vision where we are less safe, they are

building up might be a significant nuclear arsenal. we were in the iran nuclear deal with friends, allies and because of donald trump's unilateral approach to foreign policy coupled with his isolationism he pulled us out and has made america less safe. >> these independent grades very low. >> very low. democrats like this, they gave it a b plus, independents gave it a deal lower on the left. focusing on independents, they felt it was unfair and the idea it was completely isolation, it didn't resonate with them. the president should get credit for some of the policies he had

internationally, entire swaths of things, they said we are tired of hearing the attacks, they want to hear, what they are going to do and didn't feel they got it. jillian: something to do on joe biden raising your taxes if elected. >> rise in wages, hard-working americans, the average household income for families four increased by $4,000 on donald trump's tax cuts but america, you heard senator harris, on day one joe biden will raise your taxes. jillian: surprised to see democrats only giving this a be. >> it is interesting. a mixed feeling about the tax plan. republicans gave in a, independents a be, democrats a deal, some democrats said the tax plan can help me. what we heard from independents,

they are not sure what to be leave as far as the joe biden tax plan comes. some of those i disagree with them. he will raise 400,$000 or more and that is okay with me. others said the tax plan benefited me and i wanted to take place. republicans are clear about this. the tax plan is important to them. they don't want new taxes and this is something they will vote for even if they are not completely behind the president. todd: usually comes out to the economy. we will see. thanks. jillian: mike pence, pro-life and proud, kamala harris pro-choice at a person of faith. todd: this election gives us two different approaches, former george w. bush speechwriter joins us next.

>> while joe biden and kamala harris -- the establishment in washington dc the joe biden has been part of for 47 years donald trump launched a movement a free day americans. >> i believe the future is bright and it will be because of your leadership and because we fight for each person's voice, look at their vote. todd: mike pence and kamala harris using their only debate, on the oval office who had a stronger message. a speech writer for george w. bush and bill mcgurn joins me, you understand messaging, who did a better job messaging. >> i don't think -- mike pence

was commanding throughout, senator harris had difficulty, she got very flustered. she can't answer. the same problem that be deviled her, when she started strong going after joe biden in the first debate but fizzled after a single vote was cast. todd: a key contrast was the pro-life versus pro-choice answer we heard from both candidates. >> it is insulting to suggest we would knock anyone for their faith. >> i am pro-life and don't apologize for it. >> instead of focusing on the abortion aspect, harasses it is insulting to say she would not

knock someone for their faith. she's a person of faith but isn't that was kamala harris has done to catholics specifically over the course of the last few confirmation hearings? >> mike pence was talking not just about her but the party. amy coney barrett before the judiciary committee and senator feinstein, kamala harris didn't say anything about that. she did question judges who belong to the knights of columbus -- >> as a catholic they are the folks who make some money and give it to people who are poor. the fact they go from that to where we make it i don't understand. the big moment, kamala harris clearly dodging it.

it looks pretty clear if democrats get control of the government they are going to act accordingly. the liberals say over the course of the last few days republicans packed the court 6-3, i am not talking your senate duties. i am talking about increasing the number of justices on the supreme court. will that happen? >> they made it clear. right before the debate politico had a story quoting harris advisor saying she would go in and nail mike pence to the wall, leave a trail of blood, not the metaphor i would choose but just the opposite. mike pence was quietly devastating in the court packing, he did with the news media refused to do so far, this is a very big deal. when joe biden was asked a

question, if they don't know what they are choosing what choice is that? elections are about two different ideas of choice and people can decide which they prefer. the vice president was masterful in just holding her to that and it is clear they don't wish to answer the question because they know mike often votes. todd: jillian raised the question are they going to be forced? joe biden over the next two presidential debates to answer that question. we always appreciate your insight, thanks for being with us. >> the governor of missouri, indicted by a grand jury. >> still thinking you might pardon them? >> i certainly would. we will see how it comes out.

jillian: governor mike parson vowed to harden mark and patricia koski in july, they were indicted on charges of protecting their home during a june protest. returning to new york, covid-19 hotspots, new york city mayors threatening fines of 200,$000 a day, hundreds of orthodox jews protested for the second straight night in brooklyn. the majority of the affected areas are wholly populated jewish communities. resuming over relief bill for the airline industry hit hard by the pandemic. house speaker nancy pelosi and treasury secretary steve mnuchin signaled openness on reaching the $25 billion bailout, the president supports this after calling on a broader stimulus deal, it was called a terrible mistake. todd: 36 after the hour.

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todd: we are back with extreme weather, the gulf coast preparing for hurricane delta, that storm headed for the us after slamming the yucatán peninsula. jillian: winds knocking out power, the national hurricane center warning of life-threatening storm surge as delta gained strength in the gulf of mexico. janice, what is the latest? >> janice: we are going to have landfall tomorrow afternoon into tomorrow evening in the same area relatively speaking that laura hit just weeks ago. devastating another storm into louisiana. the latest 5 am advisory has the

storm at category 2. we expect it to strengthen again to a major hurricane, tracking get for the next 24 hours, late tomorrow into the evening perhaps as a major hurricane. there is the latest track, we expect strengthening before landfall. the good news is cooler waters on the coast and dryer air. once it impacts land, we are going to see life-threatening impacts including storm surge, and the potential for tornadoes. flash flood warnings posted. the fact that it is hitting the same area that was hit just weeks ago is devastating for this area and people are urged

to listen to local officials and your preparations have to be completed today for another hurricane. i wish i had better news. it is terrible. jillian: when you see those models an agreement it is devastating for the folks in that area. >> facebook will temporarily ban political ads. the platform says it will prevent candidates from declaring victory prematurely. it will last a week. >> postal workers charged after 2000 pieces of mail. nicholas has a federal indictment after admitting he through the mail in several dumpsters but insisted was not politically motivated. todd: everything is vote by mail this year. the many faces of kamala harris going viral. the meme worthy moments. jillian: and impressive fly creating a lot of buzz.

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>> kamala harris debating mike pence with not only her words but her expressions. bringing debate means. >> more on the viral moments from last night's debate. >> this was a debate strategy. and not interrupting the vice president, but a way to distract from what he was saying or call into question his perspective. this led to significant mixed reaction, kamala harris's supporters cheering her on the

district media's beverly holberg said this didn't work in her favor. >> not even plexiglas could contain a strong side i kamala harris was given the vice president. that was a standout in the debate where people took away from it was a bit abrasive and condescending, exasperated with the vice president. >> if you like kamala harris you probably thought it was great, you were probably doing the same thing at home. if you are liking make sense you thought they were rude. jillian: alexandria ocasio cortez has a response on twitter to the debate about fracking. >> reporter: a lengthy discussion on fracking were kamala harris said joe biden will not been fracking but that's not how they always felt. >> joe biden will not been fracking. that is the fact.

>> with there be any place for fossil fuels including:fracking a biden administration? >> know. we would work it out, make sure it is a laminated. >> you commit to implement a federal ban on fracking? >> no question on banning fracking. >> reporter: politics at its finest, they were once running in for primary where fracking is seen as a no-no for environmental reasons and now they are in the general election where banning fracking will cost jobs in swing states. aoc criticized kamala harris for saying there will be no fracking, she said fracking is bad, you see the pretty divide. >> with that, no setup needed for the fly. >> the start last night's debate was the fly that landed on the

vice president's head and stayed for 2 minutes and 3 seconds. biden's campaign selling flyswatter's, pigeon $5 to help this campaign fly. the fly became a topic of conversation during post debate analysis. >> reporter: it is the first debate i have ever seen that there was a bug crawling around on one candidate's head. carley: it is not the first time this happened, but glenda and hillary clinton's head during the 2016 debated michael bloomberg during his dnc speech but i don't expect chris wallace remember that because he has more important things on his mind but someone has to keep track of bugs in politics and that person is me. todd: your new mission in life, thanks. >> the one and only vice president will debate is in the book so who won? >> tony katz and political

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service compared to president donald trump who brought all of that experience four years ago. jillian: some heated moments between the two vp nominees. whose punched landed and whose missed the mark. todd: gianno, what was your big take away? >> you know, the fox news.com website says cordle but cutting which i appreciate because last week was a train wreck as we noted many times before on this air. truthfully i thought mike pence brought a consistency and stability that america needed to see on full display. he rightfully answered in the way that dr. fauci has even mentioned that the administration's response to covid-19 was, i think he used the word excellent. let me paraphrase. in his words, it's was as best as could possibly be. mike pence noting that if they

didn't do everything right, we could have been lost 2 million americans at this point, versus 2 million. i thought that was good. i think he held her on her record. her and joe biden by the fact that they would raise taxes on millions of americans, not just those that make over 400,000 but if you are going to take away all the trump tax cuts, you are literally reversing the fortunes that americans have gained under this president's leadership. i thought what he brought was competence for individuals who may have liked the trump administration but maybe not like his rhetoric or maybe not like how he interacts on twitter or whatever that maybe the case. they saw mike pension as a statesman. and for a lot of these folks that want to vote for trump maybe not, they're happy now. jillian: tony, i see you shaking your head in agreement. what are you agreeing with and what stood out to you? >> well, there's a couple of things. mike pence is the statesman.

and mike pence is always the guy who completely and totally unflappable in every way. but in some of those conversations that you talked about taxes gianno and some of the other things there are things that kamala harris brought up that i don't think are the top focus things for america. when she brought back up russia for example i thought was that a miss for her. she was strongest on coronavirus and strongest in saying that the trump administration has not actually satisfied the american people and failed the american people. i think the problem is and i think you point to it in some of the frank luntz pulling and things like that while and this is really about what party you belong. to say the political left thinks that mike pension was man explaining and the political right takes a how kamala harris responds and reacts to things that's not the way a vice president or a leader should do it. if we are going to talk about presidential tone, mike pence wins that category hands down going away every single time.

todd: meantime, gentlemen, specter of what happened in minneapolis back in may hung over this debated there were definitely comments about it. take a listen. >> because coming or bad for good cops. we need reform of our policing in america and our criminal justice system. >> there is no excuse for what happened to george floyd. there is no excuse for the rioting and looting that followed. todd: for months now we have address you had this topic. police, race, all that stuff, but i'm going to ask it in a different way. which ticket do you think is best suited to respond to what is happening in our country right now? >> you know, i discussed in depth on my new podcast out loud with gianno caldwell please subscribe there i had a conversation with herschel walker about this top ping. we have to have an administration that restores law and order in this country. weave saw summer of love which was the summer of destruction. we you a under -- which joe

biden and kamala harris didn't condemn during their dnc speech and, in fact, the kamala harris team was bailing folks out of jail. and truthfully speaking for americans who suffered under coronavirus, lost their job, lost their incomes, these folks want to see law and order restored and when the polls begin to change into the directions of donald trump, who spoke about law and order, that's when the democrats begin to speak differently about the chaos that has been going on in our streets. the trump administration is best suited to preserve and protect the country from the rioting and the lotting and bring it back on track to a path of prosperity. jillian: tony, i want to get your take on this last topic before we run out of time. this is about transition of power. take a listen to what mike pence had to say last night. >> senator, your party has spent the last three and a half years trying to overturn the results of the last election. it's amazing. when joe biden was vice president of the united states, the fbi actually spied on president trump and my campaign.

jillian: what do you think about that messaging, tony? >> i think that it's dead on. nobody did more to stop the peaceful transition of power than the obama team on january 5th, 2017 when they sat there in the oval office and continued to hatch plans. as we are seeing from the dissatisfied information from the dni, john ratcliffe from former cia director john brennan and that hillary clinton was trying to figure out how to tie trump to russia and here we are all the way down the line. it's an extremely important subject. because the people who don't believe in the transition of power are the progressive left because they believe they should be the total power and they don't mind how they destroy and they don't mind what they put in play to tritry destroy. that's what's obvious. i'm glad the vice president made that discuss continuation so clear. jillian: there you go. thank you, guys, for joining us. todd: i like you two together. you should go on his podcast. and you should go on his radio show. america wins. >> gianno caldwell subscribe.

>> i haven't been invited yes. featuring smoke on apple podcast. got. todd: got them all. jillian: thank you appreciate. >> it thank you. jillian: fox and friends will have more post debate coverage live starting now. have a good day. see you tomorrow. >> joe biden says democracy is on the ballot. make no mistake about it the american economy, the american come back is on the ballot. >> the american people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country. >> citizens are voting right now. they would like to know if you and joe biden are going to pack the supreme court if you gongt get your way are in this nomination. >> let's talk about packing. >> it's a nonanswer. >> if the trump administration approves a vaccine should americans take it? >> if donald trump tells us i should take it i'm not taking it? >> the fact that you would undermine public confidence in a screen is