>> martha: thanks for joining us tonight everybody. that is "the story" of this thursday october 8, 2020. "the story" continues, we will be back here for you tomorrow night at seven. tomorrow is friday. i have a great night and i will see you then. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to the "tucker carlson tonight." did you catch the vp debate last night? if you did anxiety you have to think divide and people are beginning to regret picking kamala harris for that ticket. maybe on paper harris made sense as a old guy's running mate, apparently she did. but onstage, not appealing. unless you enjoy being lectured and schooled by substitute teachers who try to mask their insecurity with aggression, you probably don't want four more years of that. the good news is we did learn at least one important new thing from watching.

we learned how democrats planned to use identity politics going forward. we already knew that identity politics was effective, might be the most effective way to get democrats to the polls in an election year which is why they do it. what we learned last night is that identity politics has a bigger purpose. it's a justification that democrats will use to tear down our centuries old system of government and replace it with one party rule with themselves in charge. the evidence came toward the end of last nights debate when mike pence asked harris what the moderator didn't ask, but should have. do she and biden plan to pack the supreme court of the united states? does the biden administration plan to convert our third branch of current government into a partisan super legislature with lifetime tenure? it's a pretty simple question, it's a vital question. political courts are the hallmark of banana republics and dictatorships and we don't want that here. yet for weeks joe biden and kamala harris will tell mike have refused to say what they will do if elected. so last night pens pushed again and here's what happened.

>> are you and joe biden, if somehow you win this election, owing to pack the supreme court to get your way? >> joe and i are very clear. the american people are voting right now and it should be their decision about who will serve on this most important body for a lifetime. >> thank you. the citizens who are voting right now, they would like to know if you and joe biden are going to pack the supreme court if you don't get your way in this nomination. >> let's talk about packing the court then. let's talk about the fact that -- i'm about to. do you know of the 50 people who president trump appointed to the court of appeals for lifetime appointments, not one is black? this is what they've been doing. you want to talk about packing a court, let's have that discussion. >> tucker: wait a minute, you might ask.

what does court packing have to do with a number of black judges on the federal circuit courts of appeals? does seem like completely unrelated concepts. was kamala harris trying to jot down mike dodged the question? unfortunately she was not dodging it, she was answering don't like answering the question and answering it honestly. if she and joe biden win next month, she will indeed pack the supreme court and they will justify doing that in the name of diversity. they will tell you that the trump administration is racist for not selecting judges based on the color of their skin. they will tell you that nine is a very racist number of supreme court seats. in fact it's a number that some dead white guy came up with a long time ago. see, it's a racist. they will tell you they need to diversify the court which means a super majority of partisan democrats. that's what they need to tell you but for now they are not telling you anything. >> now look. i know, it's a great question and i don't blame you for asking

but you know the moment i answered that question the headline and every one of your papers will be about that. >> tucker: did you hear that? because at any presidential candidate in history ever use that line? i feel like all lines have been used before but this one? i can't answer a question because i do answer everyone will talk about my answer. what does that even mean? truly we have no idea what it means but we do know that none of this is going to stop with supreme court. this summer, barack obama used a funeral service to tell us that the filibuster is a relic of jim crow. it's a racist procedure and any senate that limits the power of the democratic party is by definition racist. that's the new standard. identity politics is the most powerful political weapon they have. don't take it at face value, there's a purpose for it. and of course identity politics is also a handy shield and we saw that repeatedly last night.

at one point pentz pointed out that the democrats have attacked amy coney barrett for the crime of being catholic. how did she respond? she responded by describing herself as a person of faith. >> first of all, job biden and i are both people of faith and it's insulting to suggest that we would knock anyone for their faith. >> tucker: oh, come on. a person of faith now? how? what exactly does kamala harris worship except for power? she's the most secular candidate ever to run for office. and that's not an attack on her by the way, plenty of decent secular people but it's true. not that truth matters in this case. for the purposes of last nights debate, harris was identified as a person of faith and that's all that matters. the progressive left understands race and gender and yes religious faith as a means to an end. they are identities and they don't have independent meanings,

they are tools used to win arguments and achieve power. kamala harris cycled through various identity as last night. i'm speaking, she barked again and again when mike pence tried to respond to her. in other words, i'm a woman and that's why you are interrupting me. >> the vice president asked, why didn't you tell anyone? well because he said i want to remain calm. joe biden has been very clear, he will not raise taxes on anybody that makes less than 400,000 per year. mr. vice president, i'm speaki speaking. i'm so glad we went through a little history lesson, let's do that a little more. in 1864 -- mr. vice president, and speaking. i'm speaking, okay?

>> tucker: democrats thought that was appealing. what word t world do they live ? obviously it was planned. kamala harris has many allies in the media were impressed also, i knew exactly what, harris was really saying. i am a woman and they were unanimous in their conclusion. mike pence has been married to the same woman for 35 years interrupted, harris because he is a sexist who hates woman. >> she was not overly assertive throughout this entire debate. and -- >> he repeatedly interrupted her. he also repeatedly interrupted the other woman in the room which is the moderator who at some point seem to lose control of him. >> you have a reporter and a woman candidate and both of them you are interrupting and both of them you are attacking. not a good sign. >> he kept interrupting his moderator, a woman, and his

opponent, a woman. some may feel that showed a lack of respect. >> let me start with pentz. he was patronizing which drove all the women crazy. >> mike pence did interrupted did do the guy thing of demanding and getting more time to speak than the woman. >> tucker: so as a scientific matter the category women doesn't really exist. neither does the category of men because gender fluidity is real, you can choose your gender. but women are also simultaneously so different, it treats them in a different way. are you following this? what kind of adult uses the term man's flaminmansplain?

when a man interrupts a woman it must be sexism, there is no other explanation. in order to treat women equally we must treat them very different from men so as not to disturb their delicate sensibilities. and it's a shame. if it wasn't so serious it would be amusing but they don't even follow their own rules which make sense because the rules are incoherent. >> kamala harris with a smile pushed back on mike pence's repeated talking over time and interrupting her. >> so did you notice the smile that was on her face all the time? and that's hard when you are getting interrupted constantly. >> every shot kamala harris when she was looking at him, she would smile. she had a smile on her face far more than pentz ever had a smile

on his face. >> kamala harris was strong, and command and had a hint of joy. you sense that there is joyfulness in her spirit. >> tucker: obviously these are partisans, obviously these are people who are projecting their own static, high-level personal lives onto the rest of the country. no matter what you are doing, it's too stupid for a great nation. at one point mike pence tried to elevate a little bit and talk about something that actually matters. the habit we have all fallen into, thinking of each other as members of categories rather than as human beings are individuals, creations of god. that's how people of faith think, by the way, senator harris. whatever they are calling this kind of thinking right now, and transsexualisinterest sectionall wreck the country. mike pence tried to make that point. he said no, the police aren't

systemically racist, it's a fundamentally good country. that's a conversation to be worth having and that would be edifying and that does mean something. but the media ignored it and they spent most of the night talking about a housefly that landed on mike pence's forehead. >> i think it's interesting timing that a fly would land on his head when he said there wasn't really systemic racism. i saw the fly basically going, say what? it was very interesting. >> tucker: it was very interesting. what you have so often is yet another unhappy rich lady complaining about oppression. no wonder the american population is so desperately unhappy. look who is leading them? most privileged in our society never stop whining about their own lives, it's unbearable. in fact, if we are being honest about it, this was one bright spot from last nights debate, some annoying behavior aside was

a pretty respectful affair all things considering. considering we are three weeks out in the most intense political year of our lifetimes. there were a handful of minor interruptions as you would expect but for the most part, both of them, pentz and harris, kept to their time limits. in fact they spoke for roughly the same amount of time last night. that's worth noting and maybe celebrating. yet for the media class, the main take away was still that mike pence was a sexist and yet there was a fly on his forehead. we definitely deserve better than that. the presidential election is a little over three weeks from now and we still have no idea who is going to win. but there's one thing for certain, this country desperately needs a better class of leaders in charge. these people are ridiculous. victor davis hanson is a senior fellow at the hoover institution and we are happy to have him on tonight to assess what we all saw. professor, thanks for coming on. what did you make of that deba

debate? >> it was pretty clear what their strategy is and you hit on a lot of points, they will talk about race and talk about trump as a mast killer and that means they aren't going to answer any questions about fracking or the new green deal or packing the court or who they were going to a point because they are elite leftists who have made a bargain with desperate hard-core socialists. and they are not allowed to speak that. even aoc is kind of in the deal. she had a little anemic tweet that said, actually fracking is kind of bad. they take a cue from barack obama, a guy who went to prep school and grew up in an upper-middle-class. his grandmother was a bank official and then he told us he was part of the underclass and he had been a victim of racism and he was actually a moderate to murder. he was going to -- moderate. he was going to balance the budget and he said he was opposed to gay marriage and

close the border, he had the most liberal voting record. so we know what they are doing, they won't talk and they won't discuss, what's a tactical matter in which to carry out that strategy? i think it's try part, they will stay in seclusion because they feel these polls are accurate and they will run out the clock and not get any controversial statement and then play, play as if it's good old kamala harris who grew up in oakland when actually her parents were phds and she lived a pretty privileged lifestyle. and good old joe from scranton, the working class guy who became a millionaire after five decades in government, they will not come out and say anything that's controversial. that quote from joe biden proved that. second, they will outsource this to the media and every four or five days we are going to get the donald trump insulted the war dead or he didn't, and they are all encapsulated in

kamala harris' talking points. or he didn't bring up the assassins with putin who were after our soldiers in afghanistan. trump called the coronavirus a hoax which we know even liberal fact-checkers have regarded. right before coronavirus struck trump, now it's nancy pelosi today saying the 25th amendment, he's crazy. so that's what the media's role is. they always have the gotcha question for trump. did you say something about not accepting the election? didn't you say something in charlottesville. didn't you -- and to the other the undecideds, we are not going to ask you anything about, you ain't black, or you insulted an

african-american journalist called him a junkie and cocaine user, no embarrassing questions like that so that's what they are hoping out. then it begs the question, what's trump to do about this when it it's a 360-degree opponent and its celebrities in the academic world and intellectuals and the wealthy and the elite of silicon valley on wall street? i think he has to emphasize that this election is on class, not on race. there's a hundred million muscular people out there every day taking a risk that they will be infected, while they serve you at the store or they bring your door -- food curbside or they bring your oven after it blows up from home depot or they are tracking all night or producing food or farming. they don't always have the correct mask and they don't social distance but they are keeping the country going for home. the zoom and the skype class. they are in their basements telemarketing or teleworking or whatever they do making a lot of

money and then hector and everybody, they are politically incorrect or they are racist or their mask is an inch too small or they are 1 foot closer and trump has to say, i am one with these people. i want to fracking because that frees us from these middle east quagmires and it gives your kids good wages and it doesn't send your kid to afghanistan or iraq. i want to get out of the green deal because i want you to have a job. i don't want a bunch of people from the bay area to tell you how to live your life. that's what the president is supposed to do, you are supposed to take risk. meet foreign leaders and bring individuals into the white hou white house. crisscross the country and even have a rally. when i get sick i'm going to take risks by taking experimental jot, get drugs if i have to to get back on the job, i'm not going to stay in my basement and quarantine myself and isolate myself and pass judgments on others that you are not willing to take the same risk and i think that argument

will appeal to a lot of people who are getting tired of the things you have outlined. >> tucker: i certainly am. the people who have benefited the most seem to despise at the most. professor, great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so much craziness going on you may have missed nancy pelosi going completely off the rails. kevin corke is following it. >> we've seen this play before, the one with the speaker of the house question the mental capacity of the president. back then, they claimed that the aim was to "determine whether the president is mentally or physically unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office. well tomorrow they will draw from that bill again to take another run at questioning the president's fitness for office. here is a somewhat cryptic house speaker pelosi today.

>> tomorrow, by the way. tomorrow, come here tomorrow. we will be talking about the 25th amendment. not talking about us today because i have to tell you, if we want to talk about that we will see you tomorrow. >> if this all seems familiar, it should. it went on in 2017 so tomorrow it would seem a new tactic from an old playbook. tucker? >> tucker: take about a month before the election. kevin corke, great to see you tonight. michelle obama warned us this week that white supremacists were rampaging and destroying the country. you might not be able to see them but they are definitely out there disguised as blm activists. in fact just last night in wisconsin the stealthy white supremacists struck again. we will show you the video, next. ♪

♪ >> tucker: if you listen to michelle obama's impassioned 24 minute long video message this week, it's not an easy time to live as a rich lady and a 12 million estate in martha's vineyard. it's so bad that white supremacists are out there on

the streets wrecking businesses every night. some of them are stealthy, leave and have blm tattoos and want to abolish the police but it's all a cover. michelle obama assures us this is the radical right. as if we needed more evidence of that, last night in suburban wisconsin these same white supremacist struck again, just like we saw in portland, kenosha and minneapolis. they were disguised as joe biden voters and they threw rocks into people's living rooms and attacked the police. things got so bad that authorities wanted the national guard to set up a protective perimeter around city hall. just to show you how terrifyingly true michelle obama's warning was we have blotted her statement side by side with footage from last night near milwaukee. watch this. >> they are pinning it all on what's been overwhelmingly peaceful movement for racial solidarity. only a tiny fraction of

demonstrations have had any violence at all. so, what the president is doing is once again patently false. it's morally wrong and yes, it is racist. >> tucker: patently false, morally wrong and yes, racist. while we wouldn't want to disappoint michelle obama but we do want to give you some details on the rioting that we just showed you video of. that happens practically every day in america but we wanted to target this one specific outbreak. prosecutors announced yesterday they were not going to charge a police officer in the shooting death of a 17-year-old african-american man called alvin cole. prosecutors said that cole had fired a shot with a stolen handgun and when he did that the police officer who, by the way, is also black, returned fire. based on all the evidence the judicial process worked its way

through and no charges were brought and that's the way it's supposed to work. but nobody cares about the facts. because a long time ago, rich partisans like michelle obama told them the facts don't matter. we are only now starting to see the consequences. at last nights debate mike pence did something very few republicans have been willing to do. he rejected out of hand the idea that america is fundamentally a racist nation, or systemically racist, whatever that is, and he defended the police who democrats tell us are targeting some americans by skin color. >> i must tell you. this presumption that you hear consistently from joe biden and kamala harris, that america is systemically racist, that joe biden said, he believes that law enforcement has an implicit bias against minorities is a great insult to the men and

women who serve in law enforcement. >> tucker: that's true. meanwhile because every thing is irony, come here is other democrats are advocating for actual systemic racism. california will vote on some occult proposition 16 which is a ballot initiative which will repeal the state's ban on racial discrimination in college admissions, government hiring, contracting. ward connolly is fighting that ballot initiative and he's president of california three comic equal rights, something all americans should believe in. thanks so much for coming on. so this conversation about systemic racism is being pushed by people who want to repeal a ban on racism. what do you make of that? >> i make that hypocrisy and the use of race or use of identity, primarily racial identity as a basis for public policy has

reached a scary level. those who are practicing this are frightening a lot of people who wake up every day thinking that the police are out to get them, that people that they had lunch with who are white are in fact their enemies, that are pretending to like them. we are at war in my great state of california with those that are identified as progressives. i try with all my might to make sure that partisan politics does not enter into our campaign but i would be derelict if i didn't tell you that those on the progressive left are ripping us under any semblance of order that we had in our state. and their agenda is really pretty clear. if you look at the ballot voter guide the premises made that

white men are -- i have too much wealth and power. they control too many companies that are getting public contracts. that asians have too many seats at the university of california. their view is that of representation and equity. our view is a matter of equality. they say that equality is a failed experiment and," the founders didn't believe it was an experiment, lincoln didn't think it was an experiment, dr. king didn't think it was an experiment. i come along with millions of other black people didn't think that equality was an experiment but we are fighting right now, tucker, over the question of whether we are going to treat people as individuals or whether we are going to unleash racism that didn't exist. we don't have systemic racism in the state of california yet, they are pretending that it is

and they are using a lot of weasel words like diversity and affirmative action, which should be winding down. we should be unwinding affirmative action, not turbocharging it, as senator harris is trying to do. >> tucker: it's also dystopian, you are fighting a lonely fight. ward connolly. so last night, the communist party of china censored a very specific section of the tv broadcast of the vp today. we will show you what it was after the break.

>> china is to blame for their coronavirus. and president trump is not happy about it, he's made it clear, it made it clear again today. and the world health organization in china don't play straight with the american people. >> tucker: if that was a clip

from last nights debate but if you are in china you didn't get to see it. what does that tell you? gordon chang is the author of the book "the coming collapse of china. gordon, thanks for coming on. why would china censor that and what should we infer from it? >> a couple of things. first of all we know that china has devoted an enormous emphasis on controlling the narrative on the coronavirus. when it put together its task force on generate 26, there were nine people on the task force and only one was a public health official. all the rest of them were party hacks or propaganda officials and that says very much about where beijing was going. where a what vice president pence did yesterday was to puncture a big hole in china's narrative so of course they are not going to allow the chinese people to hear that. >> tucker: but they didn't censor anything that, harris said to so that raises the

question, how did china's leaders view this election and are they rooting for that? >> what president trump has done is broken five decades of failed china policy and beijing is upset about that. you know, susan page, the moderator, asked both the vice president and the senator, is china a competitor, adversary or enemy? the correct answer is enemy. and by pulling the plug on the vice president's comments last night, we know who our enemy is rooting for. >> tucker: so it's pretty clear. we spent years deriding the idea that russia had a material effect on the last election. i don't want to make wild accusations here but from what you are saying, it sounds like china believes it has a vested interest in the outcome of this race. >> yes. and it's been devoting enormous efforts to it. so from the beginning of february there has been from

the foreign ministry and the communist party's global times which is a tabloid a concerted disinformation campaign oftentimes inflammatory about the coronavirus and also about the protests in the u.s. but perhaps more insidious, we have seen the bot and the troll operations which have been directed towards unseating president trump and spreading false rumors through text messages, social media feeds and we know how big china's efforts have been. just cross anything anyone else has been doing. >> tucker: that seems like they are undermining our democracy but you're the only person i heard mention that which is interesting. good to see you. last night, he heard a lot of the normal blow-dried cable news people describe mike pence as a mansplain-er. what is a mansplain-er?

we've asked tammy bruce to woman explain. maybe i shouldn't make fun of it, i'm not quite sure what it is but it sounds embarrassing. can you unpack this for us? >> yes. maybe i should explain it to you, i don't even think the left understands what it is. the left doesn't understand what it is, they have boxed themselves into a horrible corner where they have allowed women to be categorized that at special because of our gender and then we want to be able to perpetuate that and yet they also argue for equality and yet, how can you be special and separate, but equal? so what they want is to use this idea. it's a conundrum, tucker. it becomes the problem because then you have to be able to deliver. the issue here is, people have been elevated on the left who believe and have been elevated

on occasion simply because of their gender as an example. then they are never challenged. when you are not challenged you can't become strong and the way to keep them from being exposed as weak, suddenly you are not allowed to critique them and you are not allowed to challenge them, you are not allowed to question them or even insult them when they should be insulted or confronted because that is mean, that sexism. you are being a man. and that is why in my humble opinion, kamala harris did not do well last night. she has only debated democrats previously, and not well. she, when confronted by tulsi gabbard during the primaries, she did not know how to come back. this is a woman who expects to be protected, it appears, and the left is doing everyone a disservice, every woman a disservice because it's a 21st century and they insist

that we be treated like infants as we wear pearls. and that is not going to assist any woman up any ladder. we should be treated equally and that means if you are powerful you should be confronted. you can answer questions and you better be prepared, you better understand how to convey your opinions on policy is. senator harris was unable to do any of that. >> tucker: yes, i noticed. thanks for explaining that, that's a paradox at the center of their argument and you outlined it as clearly as i've ever heard. thank you tammy bruce. as we said earlier, if you watched last night you saw an insect dissent onto the vice president of last night. you probably assumed it was a housefly. but oh, no. something much more sinister was afoot, something spiritual

perhaps. we will review the evidence with adam corolla, next. ♪ and call 844-234-2424.

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>> tucker: if you had your glasses on last night you may have seen a small insect land on mike pence's head. if you thought it was a common house fly, you are mistaken. according to this character, it was in fact a sign of demonic possession. >> i don't ever think it's a good sign when a fly lands on your head for 2 minutes, that's a sign all through history of sin. he who commands the fly has always been seen historically as a mark of the devil. >> i ask for the record, are you joking? because a fly could have landed on anyone. >> yes but it didn't, it landed on mike pence and it says something. >> tucker: yes, it says hold the wine with dinner before tv hits. but it says something special, and for that we go to adam corolla. adam, thanks for joining us.

you saw the flight descend on mike pence's head to, what did you think? >> had a couple of thoughts. what is left and glad it didn't land on joe biden because it would have taken him down, joe biden would have collapsed under the weight of that housefly. number one. number two, i was also glad it didn't land on, harris because of it had landed on her cnn would have labeled it a hate crime. so i was happy that both of those things didn't happen. if it had landed on nancy pelosi i think it would have crawled in one ear and out the other. >> tucker: [laughs] that was so good, i'm so glad i asked you. so it didn't occur to you, i guess my question is as a noted expert on demonic possession, it didn't occur to you as an exorcist type moment as it did to msnbc? >> no, i actually know what

happened. the fly was disoriented because it had just fled to california. they couldn't take it anymore. the fly -- sure, there's all the fecal matter a matter all over the streets but it couldn't take gavin newsom anymore so the fly left for utah. >> tucker: [laughter] like so many. even the insects, even that dung beetles and the carrion eaters, they are leaving, too? the whole food chain? >> homeless, taxes, wildfires and gas prices, yes. the insect community. the one [laughs] i don't know if your camera is frozen, but that was so good. [laughs] are you back? >> i'm back. >> tucker: in california even the internet doesn't work. [laughs] but just to probe deeper, you don't see this to clarify for rv

response an end for all as a sign that satan has mike pence under his personal command? >> no. but i bet if we pulled up kamala harris' hair, would find the triple six. i think dr. drew is calling me on the other line actually. >> tucker: it because he has concerns about this? [laughs] what did you think of the whole debate? >> i thought penn state a great job and i think trump should sit down because i think when he stands up he is to be cooked up and revved up. he thinks he's on a street corner standing over a lit trash can with, you know, the bowery boys. so i think sitting down work. i think pentz just shot a whole lot of information they are direction and that's what

happened. >> tucker: how do you think she did, you're a senator? >> oh, she's my senator, that's probably why the fly left. you know, she does what she does. she does a lot of gesticulating and laughing and condescendin cg and smiling and head nodding but there's not a whole lot of meat on that bone. i felt mike pence won this one. trump lost and i think it would be nice if there was a second round. >> tucker: mike pence was accused last night on the other channels of something called mansplain-income. have you ever mansplained? >> i feel like every time a man opens his mouth he's potentially mansplain-name. so i guess if you are

heterosexual, white and male and you open your mouth, you might potentially be involved in a crime. but on the other hand i have some good explaining to do so people should listen. >> tucker: you should change the name of your show, mansplain-eating with adam corolla. tonight, they have a chance to do something about it but they are not. it's not a happy story but we feel duty bound to tell you the story after the break. ♪ may want to purchase, we can help them and provide that financial solution for they and their families. it's a great rewarding feeling. everybody in the company, they have that deference and that respect and that love for the veteran

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>> tucker: the political landscape is volatile right now, god knows what's going to happen so you think republicans in washington would be awake and alert trying to accomplish all i can. republicans still control the senate you would imagine they would be busy confirming the president 's nominees while they are still able to. but they're not.

in some cases, they are blocking conservatives from getting appointments, even now. here's one for example. a month ago the president nominated a man to serve on the sec. if you're worried about the unchallenged power of big tech, and you should be, you ought to support his appointment. but senate republicans do not support it, they are sitting on his nomination. they're hoping instead they'll be able to confirm a joe biden appointee next year. the president has complained about this, including on twitter, but they've ignored him. remember that the next time you hear republicans in washington pretend that they care about free speech. pretend they are going to do something about the shocking abuse of the tech monopolies. it right now they have a chance to help fix that problem, but they're refusing to do anything. it tells you a lot. if we are out of time tonight, we will be back tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity,

smugness, and groupthink. amy coney barrett's hearing starts next week, of course we will be following those in great detail. in the meantime, we hope you have a great night with the ones you love, that's all that matters in the end. and we hope you stay tuned for the next hour, which is going to be hosted as always by the great sean hannity. >> sean: i just learned tonight that you played a doors in your brakes and music and i thought -- you made good music selections and the brakes tonight. i got to heaven. thank you. >> tucker: roadhouse blues, good tune. >> sean: welcome to "hannity," we start tonight a fox news alert. the president of the united states, donald trump, will join us live, we will talk about the debates, covid-19, joe biden, and so much more, only moments away. tonight there are 26 days until election day. you will be the ultimate jury, buckle up, brace yourself. this will be a roller coaster ride the next 26 days. during last night's debate, vice president mike pence was unflappable and