amy coney barrett's hearing starts next week, of course we will be following those in great detail. in the meantime, we hope you have a great night with the ones you love, that's all that matters in the end. and we hope you stay tuned for the next hour, which is going to be hosted as always by the great sean hannity. >> sean: i just learned tonight that you played a doors in your brakes and music and i thought -- you made good music selections and the brakes tonight. i got to heaven. thank you. >> tucker: roadhouse blues, good tune. >> sean: welcome to "hannity," we start tonight a fox news alert. the president of the united states, donald trump, will join us live, we will talk about the debates, covid-19, joe biden, and so much more, only moments away. tonight there are 26 days until election day. you will be the ultimate jury, buckle up, brace yourself. this will be a roller coaster ride the next 26 days. during last night's debate, vice president mike pence was unflappable and he not only

eviscerated frankly senator kamala harris, but he exposed just how radical and frankly dangerous her and joe biden's positions truly are to this country. she also got caught in one lie after another. her rambling, or disorganized answers at times were even hard to watch. frankly, it's hard to believe she was ever a prosecutor given her utter lack of preparation and terrible execution. more importantly, by the way, today senator harris and her frail, weak running mate, the ever-forgetful joe biden, they still are flat out refusing to answer significant, serious questions, dozens of them, including whether or not they plan to neuter the united states supreme court with a corrupt practice known as court packing. frankly it is unconscionable that they refused to tell you, the american people, the truth. i guess they must think that we the american people are really that stupid. they really think that they can just coast to the finish line

without being honest, without being transparent, without being forthright. of course the media mob, state-run tv news, state run newspapers, so far they've allowed them to get away with all of this, which would be the biggest power grab in history and by the way, that is exactly what will happen. their nonanswers as vice president pence said, that's their answer. coming up, we have full reaction, dan bongino, karl rove, congressman matt gaetz, the great one mark levin will be here with their full reaction and analysis and don't forget the president will join us straight ahead, but first, we do need to talk about the commission on presidential debates. supposedly, nonprofit -- well, supposedly nonpartisan and organization responsible for carrying out the presidential and vice president of the baits but today the commission unilaterally, without consulting either campaign, decided to upend the next matchup between president trump and former

vice president biden. if they were citing the president's covid-19 diagnosis and the commission announced that the debate would be held out virtually out of "safety concerns." the problem is, that was a unilateral decision. they did not consult with the president's doctors. they didn't consult with any doctors that we know of or the trump campaign or the president himself. and by the way, by october the 15th, the president will be more than 14 days away from when he first contracted covid-19, which means he will no longer, according to our own cdc, be shedding the virus, and will likely have immunity, and i'm sure our doctors will be checking that out in the first place. so what's really going on here? isn't really about covid-19, or is this debate commission trying to basically harness president trump and help joe biden? earlier today, donald trump jr. tweeted the following. "does anyone else find it awfully coincidental that the morning after pence destroys kamala harris in a debate that

the debate commission unilaterally changes the format to obviously benefit basement biden post quote? keeping in mind during a virtual format, the moderators, they would have access to a mute button and sleepy joe would have easy access to his trusty teleprompter. so today during an interview with our colleague and friend maria bartiromo, the president announced he will not participate in this virtual debate and this last-minute rule change. and the president is right. it's time that we now ask the important question here. if the commission on presidential debates in the tank for joe biden? has this turned into an anti-trump organization? i think the evidence and the answer is sadly all too obvious. the moderator of the second presidential debate, if it happens, is a guy by the name of stephen scully. actually you know him, met him, actually like him. he interned for joe biden, he worked for senator ted kennedy. it was not a factor in the bait commission's meanwhile, last

night's moderator susan page cua seemingly glowing biography of nancy pelosi entitled "madam speaker: nancy pelosi and the lessons of power." i guess it's no surprise that she failed to ask senator harris dozens of important questions. why? i don't know. she didn't ask about law and order and safety and security and the unrest that we've been watching for the entire summer. she didn't ask about senator harris' support for that bail fund in minneapolis that put violent riders and anarchists back on the streets. she didn't ask, well, senator harris about, you know, all about calling joe biden pretty much a racist on a democratic debate stage. she didn't ask about the time that harris said she believed biden's sexual harassment and assault the accusers. she didn't ask kamala harris about her smear of justice kavanaugh. she didn't ask about zero experience hunter and the millions of dollars that he made from foreign countries while his father was the vice president.

she didn't even ask about packing the courts. in fact it was vice president mike pence who brought up any of these issues and when he did, senator harris just flat out refused to answer the question. and all-important power grab, a constitutional issue. it's something that has not been touched in over 150 years and he asked her over and over again and still didn't get an answer. take a look. >> judge amy coney barrett is confirmed to the supreme court of the united states. are you in joe biden, if somehow you win back the selection, going to pack the supreme court to get your way? >> joe and i are very clear. the american people are voting right now and it should be there decision about who will serve on this most important body for a lifetime. >> thank you, senator harris. >> people, susan, are voting right now, they would like to know if you and joe biden are going to pack the supreme court if you don't get your way in this nomination. >> let's talk about packing.

come on. >> you give a nonanswer, joe biden gave a nonanswer -- >> i'm trying to answer you now. >> sean: the nonanswer is an answer. by the way, this just breaking, the ap is reporting the chair of commission on presidential debates says it is not going to reconsider shifting the second debate from virtual back to in person, despite a request from the president and his team. by the way, back to harris, she never answer the vice president's question. the moderator never held her accountable, didn't even follow up, so it should be no surprise that earlier today, joe biden once again, he refused to answer the question. he did say he will give us an answer after the election. take a look. >> you will know my opinion on court packing when the election is over. i know it's a great question and i don't blame you for asking, but you know the moment i answer that question the headline and everyone of your papers will be about that. other than -- other than

focusing on what's happening n now. >> sean: this is a question of constitutional magnitude. you're supposed to tell us where you stand on the positions to garner support of the american people. him not answering should scare every american, and let me let you in on a little secret, vice president pence was right last night. joe and kamala harris have decided they are going to pack the u.s. supreme court, as chuck schumer said, everything is on the table. now, if they get their way and they increase the number of justices on the supreme court and they fill it with new activist jurists that believe they can legislate from the bench, people like elena kagan and sonia sotomayor are in justice breyer, well, that would be corrupt, it would be illicit, it would be authoritarian, it would be a maneuver to give the democrats total control over the courts and that which they couldn't win at the ballot box

or legislatively, it would destroy coequal branches of government. that would cease to exist. our american systems of checks and balances would be completely eviscerated, media mob, by the way, is enabling them to get away with not answering this question. what else do they have in mind? do they want to end the electoral college? want to end the legislative filibuster? they want to make this place or that place or d.c. estate? how many states do they want to have in the union? this would be the single biggest power grab in this country in a hundred 50 years and it would transform this country to its core in a way that would not be good for every american and could very well destroy this constitutional republic. it is a clear and present danger and that's why joe and kamala harris are keeping it a secret. but guess what? they are not stopping at court packing. they likely want to end the legislative filibuster. again, chuck schumer, everything's on the table. they want to ditch the electoral college.

are they ready and willing to give washington, d.c., puerto rico, statehood in order to add four more guaranteed in their minds democratic senators, in their view a guaranteed democratic majority in the u.s. senate in perpetuity? do they want one state party rule, zero rights, zero input for the minority party? because that's what it looks like. in the media mob, the so-called unpartisan debate moderators can't even be bothered to ask a single question about such a heavy constitutional issue and the impact it will have on this country and future generations, and meanwhile the truly unhinged speaker of the house nancy pelosi, she's busy fantasizing still about getting rid of president trump. she still has not accepted the results of the 2016 election and now says we are going to talk about the 25th amendment, which lays out a plan of succession should the president become incapacitated. this is where her head is at, take a look. >> what are we talking about here? tomorrow, by the way, tomorrow,

come here tomorrow. we are going to be talking about the 25th amendment. but not to take attention away from the subject we have now. >> do you think it's time to invoke the 25th amendment? >> i will talk to about that tomorrow. i will talk to about it tomorrow. i'm not talking about it today because after tell you -- if you want to talk about that i will see you tomorrow. >> sean: court packing today, the 25th amendment tomorrow. what else is on the list? pretty much a typical pelosi day, just like the last four years. at this radical extreme democratic party, they care about one thing above all else, and that is power. power now over all branches of government, power over religion, power over your health care. remember kamala harris won't even allow you to get private insurance if she has her way. power over your businesses, power over schools, power over your rights. if power over every aspect of our lives and in order to get this power, they are willing to lie, deceive, not be transparent and do everything and anything

they can do to cover up the truth about what their real radical agenda is. for example, here is senator harris blatantly lying about joe biden's plan to raise your taxes. remember what he said. i'm going to repeal the bush -- i'm sorry, the trump tax cuts. that means all of our taxes will be raised. take a look. >> he says he's smart because he can take advantage of the tax code. and he does take advantage of the tax code. that's why i'm going to a limit the trump tax cuts and i'm going to illuminate those. >> the truth and the fact is joe biden has been very clear, he will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000 a year. mr. vice president, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> the important issue is the truth. joe biden has said twice in the debate last week that he's going to repeal the trump tax cuts. that was tax cuts that gave the average working family $2,000 in a tax break every single year. >> that is absolutely --

>> sean: every american that got a tax cut on the donald trump will lose it. that means the taxes will go up. senator harris also flat out lying about fracking and we've got the video evidence. take a look for yourself. >> i am not banning fracking. let me say that again. i am not banning fracking. no new fracking. >> would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and fracking in the biden administration? >> no. we would work it out. we would make sure it's eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those. >> so first of all, i will repeat, and the american people know that joe biden will not ban fracking. that is a fact. >> will you commit to implement in a federal ban on fracking, your first an office, adding the united states to the list of countries who have banned this devastating practice? >> there's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. >> sean: no more fracking, no

more fracking, we will eliminate fracking, but we are not illuminating fracking and when all else fails, democrats, well, they always turn to moralize about race. that happened last night with senator harris once again accusing the president of never condemning white supremacists, following the lead of joe biden, who's been making these same false allegation. this by the way as -- joe and kemal repeat over and over and over again and they don't care that s proving otherwise, but to help educate them both, well, we have the videotape. >> have you ever heard this president say one negative thing about what's a premises? have you ever heard it? >> i totally disavow the ku klux klan. i totally disavow david duke. >> i got back in his race because of what happened in charlottesville. people coming out of the woods carrying torches, their veins bulging. close your eyes and remember what you saw. and the young woman gets killed

resisting the hate and violence and the president gets asked to comment on it, what does he say? he says there are a very fine on both sides. >> you have some very bad people in that group, but you also have people that were very fine people on both sides, and i'm not talking about the neo-nazis or the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally buried >> david duke for god sake. >> i reject david duke, rejected david duke. i've rejected the kkk, the ku klux klan from the time i'm five years old i rejected them. >> sean: 26 days that these liars in the democratic party, if they do well in the election and are able to carry out their stated radical agenda, america, the country you know and love, it will never be the same. here with reaction, dan bongino, florida congressman matt gaetz. by the way, dan bongino, i know you've been public. you had a recent medical

procedure, everybody, you are in our thoughts and players, we wish you a speedy recovery. let's start with allies. if they won't tell america the truth about packing the courts. there lying about race. there lying about fracking. there lying about a lot of issues. >> yeah, well, there's a reason that they won't answer the question about packing the court and it relates to an appearance i did with you after the trump-biden debate a couple weeks ago, sean. what president trump managed to do a lot of people missed. what he did in the debate, is he managed to get joe biden to divorce the left. that's a big problem, sean, because this is the biggest election. there are very few independence left, this is an election or we are dying to get every trump order to turn out and biden is trying to get every biden voter but what trump did in the debate as he got biden to renounce biden voters. now think about it buried again, a lot of people are missing this. mike pence did the same thing last night with kamala harris saying no, no, no, we are not going to ban fracking.

that may sound great to people in the middle, but the radical left, including aoc, are losing their minds and they're the ones were going to vote. trump is doing this on purpose. this is his strategy and he's got them playing their game and that's why they will not admit that they won't pack the court, because if they do, it will be the final straw with the radical left and the surgical operation separating biden from the radical left will be complete. >> sean: matt gaetz. >> i think dan's analysis is right and it's borne out by the fact that more and more republican candidates are fused to donald trump in polling and to see more and more of the down ballot democrats taking positions that, as dan pointed out, might be different from those who are hearing from kamala harris and joe biden. you reported on the commission of presidential debates, sean, and have to say the commission on presidential debates looks more like a boring washington, d.c., dinner party than it does like real america. i would almost rather left the cast of "love island" of the rules for the debate, instead of

the commission would represent the elite, wants to give joe biden the home-field advantage of a zoom call from his own basement, but when the jobs of americans are on the line, when our national security is on the line, you don't get to zoom into those meetings, you have to show up. and whether people like or dislike the president, they can see from the debates he is a person in command and he will fight with everything he has for the great people of this country, for our success and our enduring prosperity. >> sean: matt gaetz, congrats by the way on your book that is out, amazon.com. dan, congrats on your health, glad you are doing well. thank you both. president trump will join us in a moment. first joining us with 26 days out, his take, the architect, karl rove. that's the great one, mark levin. they will join us in a minute, but first, karl rove. karl, listen, they lied about fracking, they lied on taxes, they lied on the issue of race. they're now talking about packing the courts. joe -- schumer says everything's on the table, ending the

filibuster is on the table, ending the electoral college is on the table, d.c., puerto rico statehood is on the table. karl rove, they are not -- how are they getting away with not answering fund mental questions and lying at such a high level? >> well, they're getting away with it because they're not being held to account by the media and because when they say things like joe biden said today that he doesn't want to become an issue and he will tell you after the election, their signaling to us exactly what they're going to do and here's what they're going to do. they're going to change the senate rules to no longer require six devotes to take up a bill. virtually every -- not every piece of legislation but virtually all major bills in the senate require 60 votes to begin the debate and that's what we call the filibuster. if you don't get 60 votes, you can't take it out. ironically, it will take only 50 votes, plus the vice president of the united states to break the tie to get rid of the 60 vote requirement, and that's what they're hiding. they don't want to say that they're not going to do that,

because that's exactly what they're going to do and what does that mean? what does that mean? here's what it means. they will need only 50 votes plus the vice president, or 51 votes if they don't have the vice president to pass court packing. expand the number of judges so that the majority of liberals on the bench. repeal the trump tax cuts. it raised the new taxes that are called for in their platform. taxes on business, taxes on wealth, tax on savings, even taxes on retirement. they say they want to do something but the tax advantage of like 401(k)s and iras. the public option, government takeover of health care, not like medicare for all, that does it immediate we come of this takes a couple of years to have the government take it over entirely. the college, taxpayer-funded abortion, abolish i.c.e., free health care for illegals, all of those things could be done with only 50 votes or 51 votes if you have 51 senators or 50 senators plus the vice president. now, you want to get a list of what they want to do?

they want to get rid of right to work, they want the federal unit -- fdr said we should never allow federal unions to negotiate for wages. they want to do that. they want to "reimagine the police to partner." if they want to get rid of natural gas power plants and oil-fueled power plant by 2035. they want to have -- they want to take 2 million houses out of 139 million houses in america and retrograde, up fit those places. who's going to be 29 the 200000? they want what they call net zero agriculture. go tell some farmer he can't use a tractor because that's putting out carbon. they want d.c. statehood and puerto rico, and if you think i'm making up this list, google "biden sanders unity task force recommendations" and read that document, 80 pages, 2020 democratic party platform, you will find it all in their and their object is to pass all of those items with 50 votes in the united states senate and vote of the vice president to break the

tie. >> sean: if i'm the republicans i flood the zone in ohio and pennsylvania on the fracking lie and i flood the zone unpacking the court, ending the filibuster, raising taxes on the lies told. karl rove, thank you. when we come back, the president of the united states and mark levin next.

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>> sean: in just a few moments the president of the united states donald trump join us. first joining us now best selling author on freedom of the press, i call him the great one, also nationally syndicated radio host, mark levin. let me go right to your wheelhouse, which is our constitution. joe biden literally said that he'll tell us after the election where he stands on court packing. i want your position on that. pelosi's comments on the 25th amendment, the threat of schumer to end the legislative filibuster, the biggest power grab that i have seen in 150 years, and tell us the constitutional significance of this. >> this is our constitution. men and women have gone to war to defend this document. men and women have died to defend this document. it is the finest governing document ever created and established by mankind.

you want to know why? it protects the individual from centralized government. it protects us from the mob and it protects us from the monarchy. right now the mob has a voice in the democrat party. the democrat party wants to destroy this country. that's why it intends to attack the supreme court. the supreme court is one of our three branches. the democrat party is saying we don't give a damn, if that branch doesn't out to our will we will destroy. they want to destroy half of congress by loading up of democrats, so there's democrats in congress that control that body for a generation. then they want to destroy the legislative process, so nothing can be done, nothing, to stop them. all the checks and balances will be killed. all the checks and balances will be destroyed. why? because nancy pelosi and chuck schumer have an agenda that they want to ram down the throats of the american people. this election is about this, the constitution of the united states. when you vote, when you vote, you're voting now, you're voting

on your liberty. your boating on your country. your voting for the men and women in uniform overseas who are fighting for this document. the democrat party is not this country. it doesn't get to rule over us. it doesn't get to have monopoly power over our government yet that's what it seeks and we have a coward, a coward, in joe biden, a man who has been a racist for much of his life, a segregationist for much of his life, a bigot for much of his life, hiding behind a virus, hiding behind a virus, and he won't tell us if he will defend the constitution of the united states. we have a candidate for president of the united states who will not tell us if you will defend separation of powers. one of the branches of the federal government because he's concerned that will be a headline? it will be a headline god forbid if he is sworn in and puts his hand in this document and says he's going to uphold the constitution. i don't know who the hell

chuck schumer thinks he is, he's a passing footnote in history or nancy pelosi, a passing foot in history, they don't get to decide in new york city and san francisco how the rest of us live. now let me tell you how ignorant nancy pelosi is. how bombastic and buffoonish nancy pelosi is. the 25th amendment. i didn't even know she could count to 25. does she know what's in the 24th or 23rd amendment? she knows nothing. the 25th amendment provides, in part, that the vice president in a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as congress may by law provide the terms that the president is no longer able to carry out his duties. the vice president and the majority of the principal offices aren't going to do this, so they need another body. the problem is, there is no other body. because there's no law that's created another body. so she gets up there on stage

with her stupid-looking mask that looks like it was somebody's old sofa, and she gets up there, and you know what? come back tomorrow. we are going to talk about the 25th amendment. what are you going to tell us, nancy? let me tell you what she's going to do in the media are going to run with it because they are as ignorant as anybody else. we are going to set up a commission. we are going to pass a bill in the house to set up a commission with experts to look at this president, the medicines that he's taking, but it's not the law, because the senate is not going to pass in the president is not going to sign it. she setting up nothing. she is a fan dance. this is another phony nancy pelosi drama act three and a half weeks before the election. let me tell you about this woman. this woman has told our airlines, our pilots, she is told ticket agents, she is told people who work in the airline industry go to hell and drop dead because i can't get the money to bail out cuomo, i

can't get the money to bail out newsom and all these other fools that run these states into the ground and because i can't get that money, people are unemployed are getting nothing, people who run those stores are getting nothing. the airlines are going to go upside down because nancy pelosi is decided -- she is blackmailing america. nancy pelosi has decided you either give into her, you either destroy the constitution, or -- or what? or she's going to destroy the country. >> sean: mark levin, life, liberty and live in, nationally syndicated radio host. joining us now live from white house, president donald trump. mr. president, thank you for being with us. first, an obvious question, how are you feeling? how is the first lady feeling? and i want to get into your comments that you would make regeneron and therapeutics free for the american people, but first, how are you doing? >> really good, and the first lady is doing really good and i thought mark was fantastic and i

love your show. >> sean: okay. if have you been tested since your campaign and your doctor sean connolly put out that you will be medically safe and cleared for safe return to public engagements by saturday, five full days. have you been tested recently? >> president trump: yeah, i just saw the doctors today. they think i'm in great shape. >> sean: did you test negative? >> president trump: i will tell you, i took this regeneron, it's phenomenal. eli lilly has something very comparable, and it's a whole new day. and if you go back a few months, nobody ever even thought about this stuff. we came up with it but i'm going to have it delivered to every hospital we have six sick people with the covid for the china virus, as we call it, and we are going to make people better. i went in, could have left a day

later, i'm telling you, sean, it's incredible. that's regeneron, but again, eli lilly has something similar. the kind of things we are coming up with now are incredible. remdesivir, but that's a little bit different, works much differently, actually. but these things are absolutely incredible. i think i'm going to try doing a rally on saturday night if we have enough time to put it together, but we want to do a rally probably in florida on saturday night. it might come back and do one in pennsylvania the following night and it's incredible what's going on. i feel so good. >> sean: have you had a test since her diagnosis a week ago? >> president trump: well, what we're doing is probably the test will be tomorrow, the actual test, because there's no reason to test all the time, but they found very little infection or virus, if any. i don't know if they found any, i didn't go into it greatly with the doctors. we have these great doctors at walter reed, but you do rely on them, they are really fantastic

talents and they came in from johns hopkins also and other places. i saw so many doctors looking over me, i think i'm the most analyzed human being in the world right now. but we have the head people at not only walter reed, which is incredible, the job they do, but also johns hopkins and other hospitals. i think they're amazed at how quickly this point, frankly. >> sean: let me ask you the debate commission said earlier tonight that their decision is not going to be reversed even if you get a full healthy go ahead from all of your doctors and follow the cdc guidelines. how did they get to unilaterally decide that without consulting with you or former vice president biden's campaign even? >> president trump: i didn't even want to use them. last time i had a big problem, my mikes when i had three

debates with hillary and i think the first debate they -- excuse me, on the first debate, they oscillated the micy oscillated it very, very seriously. and actually apologized to me. i said what's this all about? they were quentin people and i said we ought to just do the debates ourselves, we ought to just do it ourselves and i pick -- you know, i'm the president, so we want to have debates, i would rather just do it ourselves, pick some good anchor so i end up with chris wallace, was essentially -- but, his father did me once or twice, twice i guess come on "60 minutes," he was great, mike. chris is not mike, that i can tell you, he's not even close, but chris was terrible. he was protecting biden the whole night. i asked biden about why did to get all of that money from the mayor of russia, from the wife of the mayor of russia and chris wouldn't let that be answered. when i said why did he do the

billion dollars, you're not getting a billion dollars to ukraine in less you get rid of the prosecutor, chris wouldn't let that. he protected them. if the guy was choking like a dog, he couldn't answer the questions and he was choking like a dog, and chris kept saying it. now we have another one, i didn't know this, but the other one is from c-span and he is -- a never-trumper, and i think he said he worked for biden at one point, is of the people we get and that's okay, because i've had some bad ones over the years and i've got an unblemished record i think in the debating world according to the polls, if you look at -- 15 debates last time and they say i won them all against very talented people in some cases. but i will say this, that it is -- it's a very sad thing. now you have this debate commission is a joke. take a look at the letter they wrote four years ago, they were isolating my mike, they were turning it up and down when i was speaking to hillary, croke and hillary. who turns out to be very crooked. look at all the stuff we found

out on obama and biden entered. so we will see what happens, i'm not interested in doing -- i'm not going to do a virtual debate, sit behind a computer screen that gives him the answers, because they will be handing him the answers. his news conference, he does them and they give him the answer and they give him the question and they get from -- what kind of a news conference? he does it all the time. he was choking like a dog, but chris wallace bailed him in. he bailed him in or bailed him out. >> sean: let me ask you this. you have an opportunity to challenge joe biden directly. his campaign can make the decision to go forward with a debate, get any health check that they want and follow through and have two debates and you could agree upon the roles. if you don't need a debate commission to do that. i guess you have the ability to challenge joe biden to such a debate, are you doing that tonight? >> president trump: well, i

might. i will do it read three or show, let's go, joe. let's have a fair -- let's get a fair anchor, somebody like the great sean hannity, we will get rush, we will get mark. we will get laura, judge jeanine. >> sean: [laughs] >> president trump: we've got a lot of them out there. we will get jesse or pete. we've got a lot of them. tucker. >> sean: you're going to get me killed all the crosstalk. >> president trump: listen -- this is a disgrace, what's going on. now i find out the guy that's doing it from c-span is a never-trumper but i don't mind that. look at the people i've had in the past mile was was won the debate. i had martha, her hatred was so incredible, i couldn't believe it, but i beat hillary in that debate, easily. i don't mind that. it's not even that, but i'm not going to sit behind a computer and have somebody feed him answers because he has no idea because he won't be president for three months before the wonderful kamala takes over with her -- she's the most liberal

person -- she's not a socialist, she is a step beyond socialism, as you know. >> sean: wanted to think of the vice -- what did you think of last night 'it's debate, sir? >> president trump: i thought mike was great. i don't mean because he is with me and is my friend, i thought it was great. he's a calm person. we are really a good combination, a lot of people have said that for a long time. he's a calm person, he's a good person, and he was just -- he couldn't believe some of the things she was saying and he really didn't, he couldn't believe it what she was saying. they live, they lie so much, like fracking. him and her for a year, whatever the democrat debate -- we are against fracking. biden says we will never, ever see fracking and you know et cetera, et cetera, right? so he gets the nomination, he has to center over a little bit. we want to go fracking, we will be fracking, and her too. even her. she's a super -- but then they get beat up by aoc bus three,

you never said that before. now the press gives them a pass. the reason they give him a pass because its fate, the news is fate, the enemy of the people and the press gives them a pass. if i ever did that, i would be excoriated. >> sean: let me ask you about the issue that joe biden and kamala harris refused to answer, that is packing the united states supreme court which would be a change that hasn't happened in 150 years. >> president trump: terrible thing. >> sean: and joe biden literally said today -- and i was -- i honestly thought last night kamala harris would have a different answer. i thought when mike pence challenged her but she was going to say no, that they would not support it. there are nonanswers, revealing that joe biden one further today and said you'll know my position on court packing the day after the election.

what's your reaction to that? >> president trump: i think it was a terrible thing to say, i think it's so disrespectful to the people and who should have said something and, you know, say to the best of my knowledge, this is probably what i would do. i think it's -- i think what he said was so disrespectful to the process and to the people. it what he said then was just disgraceful, but what that means, really, is that they're going to do it, because obviously that means 100% that's what they're going to do. they are going to end the filibuster and they're going to do things that you wouldn't have thought. i've been fighting the filibuster with mitch for a long time because i said mitch, they're going to do it -- if they ever got in, schumer would do that on day one. i agree that what they did was right, you know, you take a look at what mitch and some very good republican senators -- because it's good for the country, but i said here's the problem, if they ever got in, if they won, this would be the first move they make, and the filibuster, the

nuclear option, as they call it. not a week will go by, probably not a day will go by, but again, harry reid did it, that's why we have so many judges. i want to thank you very much, harry reid, because harry reid, he ended the filibuster and i'm going to have 300 judges by the time i finished, 300. it's a record. by the end of the first term, think of that. it's a record. by the end of the first term i will have 300 judges, just about, give or take a few. a couple. and it's all because -- think of it, it's all because of harry reid and a lot of good work by a lot of good republicans, including mitch. >> sean: don't you think or do you think that the people of this country need to know whether joe biden, if he were elected president if you attack the courts, whether or not he would support statehood for places like d.c., whether or not he would support ending the filibuster, whether or not even maybe pursue a constitutional

amendment to abolish the electoral college? to me, these are fundamental questions that he is refusing to answer. what is you are -- what is your answer to his nonanswer? and the media, i think he's answered less than 100 questions since this whole campaign has started, which i think makes these two debates that are forthcoming even more important than any average presidential election year. >> president trump: he's got a lot of nonanswers. i mean, look, look at the second amendment. you never talk about second amendment's. he wants to take away your guns, 100%. he put beto, you know, he turned out to be -- he was exposed by ted cruz and me, i think i helped a lot too, but he was exposed as a clown, is much worse than that but i want to be nice because it's a nice, you know, evening show, but he was exposed as a clown, he wants to take away your guns. he's going to take away your

second amendment. what he asks him about the second amendment anymore. do you notice that? the second amendment is very important. it's a big thing. we campaigned on it, i protected -- if i want president, you wouldn't have a second amendment right now. and biden -- nobody talks about life anymore, pro-life, is he pro-life? no, he's not pro-life. you know, what is he? why don't you ask him a question? he doesn't want to talk about it. but he endorsed a governor of virginia who not only executed a baby late-term abortion, but executed a baby because the baby can be born and then you can kill the baby. and he's totally in favor of that and i can tell you your pro-life groups are -- they are in mass. this is -- this is there one shot, because what's going on is so bad, it's so evil.

the governor of virginia is that we will execute the baby after the baby is born. you talk about late-term abortion, this is early term execution and it's a very, very bad thing, but you don't ever hear anybody talking about pro-life, pro-choice with biden. did you ever hear it? i haven't heard it, very rarely do you hear it. i don't think you would know how to discuss it. but very importantly second amendment, they just don't discuss the second amendment. he's going to take your guns away so everybody with a gun, you can't vote for him because you're not going to have your guns. at the same time, they want to defund the police so you're not going to police protection and by the way, you can't have a gun so when one of these maniacs breaks into your house at night because there are no cops around, you don't have a gun to protect yourself. that's a great combination and the suburbs are going to fall -- a lot of people talk about the women of the suburbs, right? women of the suburbs. they do or don't like trump, i don't know, but what i've done

is incredible for the suburbs. the suburbs are over, as you know. the suburbs will become more unsafe than the cities run by the democrats and so i think i should do very well with suburban women, because i'm the one that's protecting them both in terms of law and order and in terms of zoning. they want to build low-income housing right next to your house as the american dream is destroyed, destroyed. but they don't talk to biden about this. they don't talk to him about law and order. i said to him the other night, mention the words law and order, he wouldn't do it. he wouldn't do it. i said mention the word law and order, go ahead. he wouldn't do it and then of course chris wallace came in to protect him. >> sean: let me ask you this, mr. president, if i may. i played at the beginning of a show -- we don't have a lot of time left, i won't play it again. joe biden twice in the debate that he had with you said he will eliminate the trumps tax cuts.

now he's saying only on people $400,000 or more, but i will let you explain it. he says he's not against fracking, but i have him saying he will illuminate fracking twice and we played that tape. he has repeatedly said and kamala harris last night falsely have claimed that you have yet to once condemned it's a promise yet i showed multiple instances when you have done just that, te neo-nazis, david duke, white nationalism, disavowing david de to spread that falsehood. your reaction? because they don't seem to get called out on the media on the fact that what they are saying is false. >> president trump: and i condemn the people on the left like antifa that are burning down your cities all summer lo long. without any control whatsoever. they're all biden people, meaning not biden, biden is not smart enough to know what it even is, but they are of that

philosophy. and i condemn them very strongly, very, very strongly. it's not just the right, it's the right, it's the left. but the left has been a problem for the long time. antifa has been a big, big problem and i see witmer today, she's complain but it was our justice department that arrested the people she was complaining about. it was my justice department that arrested them, but instead she goes and does her political act and she keeps her state closed, although we just won the big case, as you know, to open up michigan, because what she's doing is a horrible thing to the people. the churches are closed, the schools are closed and the whole state is closed and the people are being hurt very badly in the form of drinking and suicide and depression. it's very sad thing. but no, joe biden wants to raise taxes and very sadly, if you take a look, he wants to raise taxes but he says is going to end our tax cut. people are getting actually much more, mike handled the great,

2,000, it was actually much more than 2,000 and child tax credits, which is the thousand dollars a child, but he wants to take all that away so therefore, if you do nothing else, you're raising taxes by the largest percentage in the history of our country. if he terminated my tax cuts, which is one of the reasons that our economy has done so great, even now in this pandemic, which hopefully we around and return and we have incredible cures and a lot of therapeutics and the vaccines are going to be coming very soon, but i'll tell you what, i took it, it's incredible. to me, i viewed it as a cure, it's incredible and we are going to get it to everybody, free of charge. it's going to hospitals, it's starting very soon, the military is going to be delivering it, but he's looking to do big, big tax cuts, big, big tax increases like at a level that's never been seen. nobody's ever gotten the cuts that i got. i got the biggest tax cuts ever given, as you know, sean, better than probably most, but he's going to end those tax cuts and reverse them and now people are going to pay 2,000 must child

tax credits. it's going to be a disaster for our country. it's going to put our country into a depression in your 401(k)s are going to go down the tubes and your jobs are going to go away and are going to have a depression the likes of which our country has never seen before and that possibly includes 1929. >> sean: mr. president, there has been articles out, and i would assume that joe biden and kamala harris not giving their position on court packing would be a national ad. i assume them both on record saying they would ban fracking would be an ad that would run and a lot of cycles in ohio and pennsylvania. their website -- >> president trump: and texas. >> sean: the green new deal and joe biden saying he would spend trillions of dollars on it and pledging that. what with the new green deal look like in your view if implemented as promised by both

joe biden and as a cosponsor, kamala harris in the u.s. senate? >> president trump: it's a deal that was conceived of by not smart people, aoc plus three, and others. i don't even think they had any experience in the environment, this was a deal conceived of and the real price is $100 trillion. that's more money than this country could make in a hundred years if things went well, okay? i mean, they literally want to take buildings down and rebuild them with tiny little windows, okay? little windows so you can't see out, can't see the light and the whole thing is so crazy. it's such a crazy thing and take a look. and biden agreed to this with crazy burning, because you know they have the manifesto. they've agreed to most of these things, and it's going to cost more money. our country will be a ninth world country, not a federal to world country, a ninth world country. look at what's happening with

the rolling blackouts in california. look at where california is going to have to ration water. you know why? because they send billions of gallons of water out to sea. out of the pacific. because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish that aren't doing very well without water, to be honest with you. but it's a very sad thing that's happening, no common sense, even the fires in california. i talk about -- you need -- i was with governor newsom, i get along with him very well. we disagree on a lot of things but i get along with him. number one, you should let water come down from the north and accept it instead of throwing it out to the pacific, but you also have to have forest management. we send them so much money -- i don't have to, but i want to help california, but they have the biggest forest fires because they don't manage their land. they don't have separators. they have trees that have been laying on the ground that are stone cold dead, dry, like

matchstick and you throw cigarette butt on them between the leaves in the trees, everything catches on fire and you lose 200,000 acres in a short period of time. they got to manage their forests and if they manage their forests, you're going to not see the forest fires. >> sean: mr. president, the heritage foundation identified nearly a thousand convictions on voting fraud. there have been -- you have expressed many times your concern about some of the changing laws and rules and have spoken negatively about these changes, but with that said, a lot of states have now begun early voting. some will be starting in a week or two. will you encourage your supporters to get out and vote early? >> president trump: well, i want them to vote, but i will say this, absenteeism okay. because absentee ballots -- excuse me -- absentee ballots are fine. because absentee ballots you request, you ask for a ballot

and you request, and that said, absentee ballots are absolutely fine. you request them, you fill them in, you send them back in, but these unsolicited ballots, universal unsolicited ballots, sean, it's going to be a disaster the likes of which we've never seen. we will never have seen an election like what's going to take place. thousands of ballots all over the country are being reported, some thrown in garbage cans my name on them. some thrown in trays in a river. at what's going on is absolutely crazy. we have people watching, we have u.s. attorneys watching, we have sheriff's watching. we have u.s. marshals watching. you're talking about millions of ballots are being sent out. >> sean: with that said -- >> president trump: it's going to be a big tremendous fraud. excuse me? >> sean: would you prefer that your supporters, if that's the system and that's what the law is, would you prefer that they get out early also so that there's not a big deficit

heading into election day? >> president trump: yeah, well, my supporters are going to be mostly people that vote. they go to the vote, you know, the old-fashioned way, go to the voting booth and vote. first of all, we should have voter i.d. all over the country. when you buy something you have voter i.d. to get into the democratic national convention, you had to have voter i.d. >> sean: i had to have it four years ago. >> president trump: but to get into vote you don't need voter idea in many places. indiana has a great system. you have many places where you do have it, but we should have voter i.d., universal voter i.d. when you go to vote they should see who you are, make sure that it's not fraudulent, but this will be one of the greatest roger went and most fraudulent elections ever because of this whole thing. they're sending out millions and millions and millions of ballots. where are they sending them? who is sending them? where they going? where they coming back from? how many are fraudulent? are they being thrown away? are they being sold?

are they being harvested? it's a terrible thing, sean. despite that, i think we are going to have a tremendous victory. i saw some polls just now, and some real polls, not the fake polls where they put out numbers like at cnn and abc, "washington post," "wall street journal," nbc. it's the same stuff as i had. it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. it used to be much worse, believe it or not, hard to believe when you think of it, but i'm looking at polls, we are doing great in ohio, doing great in iowa, doing great in many, many places. many places. then you come home, you turn on the television, you say i'm 4 down, i can't believe it, but they are fake polls. >> sean: last question and i only have about a minute for you to answer, that is we now discovered that the cia have briefed then-president obama on a plan that hillary clinton concocted to distract from her email server scandal and concoct this russia hoax. we also learned that she paid -- we already knew she paid for the

dirty russian misinformation dossier and at the source for steals dossier was a known russn operative for over ten years. and they still went forward with it. in the 40 seconds we have left, your reaction to this new news? >> president trump: we caught them spying on our campaign. this is treason. we caught them trying to take down a duly elected administration/president and we have all the evidence now. we have to see what the law enforcement is going to do with it, but we caught them spying -- as sure as you are sitting there, i assume you're sitting, but as sure as you're sitting there, we caught them spying on our campaign, you know that almost better than anybody. and it's something when you see "the new york times" "washington post" get full of surprises, they got everything wrong, right? we caught them spying on our campaign. we caught them trying to take down a duly elected -- and then they talk about we want to

peaceful transition of power. peaceful -- mike pence's best answer was that answer last night. they spent three and a half years trying to terminate a presidency. >> sean: mr. president, we wish you and the first lady and every american that has contracted covid a very speedy recovery, very positive news on regeneron and eli whitney and therapeutics and operation wart speed seems to be moving along nicely. >> president trump: thank you very much. >> sean: let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham is standing by. iou 20 seconds. every >> that's okay. very interesting. we're going to pick up where you left off, sean. i'm laura ingraham, and this is "the ingraham angle." as the super-spreader, in