>> have a great weekend. see you on monday. >> number one book in america according to the "new york times." >> stay within yourself. >> sandra: hurricane delta heading for the u.s. gulf coast as a category three storm with maximum sustained winds of 120 miles per hour. hurricane warning is in place from high island, texas, to morgan city, louisiana. the storm is expected to make landfall this afternoon. janice dean with an update on the storm's path and expected arrival time coming up. fox news alert now president trump says he is ready to get back on the campaign trail and the white house doctor agrees saying he expects the president to resume public events tomorrow just one week after the president announced he tested positive for the coronavirus. good friday morning to all of

you, good morning, trace, ifm -- i'm sandra smith. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher. he plans to hold a rally in next thursday instead of a debate with joe biden after the commission decided candidates would appear in separate remote locations for health and safety reasons. a decision the president opposes. >> sandra: the president telling sean hannity last night he is feeling well crediting an experiment antiviral cocktail for his quick recovery. >> president trump: i took this regeneron. it is a whole new day. i think i will try doing a rally saturday night if we have enough time to put it together. we want to do a rally probably in florida saturday night. might come back and do one in pennsylvania in the following night and it's incredible what's going on. i feel so good. >> trace: kevin corke live at

the white house. is it fair to say the white house understands how people would see this as rushing just a bit? >> yeah, especially when you consider how long ago it was the president was actually over at walter reed. they say if he is healthy enough to get out there he should take his message directly to the american people. will there be a rally? very probably yes. just what form that rally might take on is anyone's guess. we've seen rallies before, right? the in person with the president in packed arenas and air force in person holding rallies and also seen a number of rallies across the country without the president. vote rallies and road rallies and boat rallies. the president will push on with the stops in key battleground states florida and pennsylvania. states he won in 2016. the question is this. how confident is the white house that he is healthy enough to get out there again so soon

after his covid-19 diagnosis? well, here is what his doctor said yesterday. since returning home his physical exam has remained stable and devoid of any indications to suggest progression of illness. i think it's fair to say, if he gets out there to have a rally, it would be the american people's first chance to see him in person. we heard interviews, radio interviews and other interviews without seeing the president. we've seen him on video on the south lawn but this would be an unvarnished, unfiltered opportunity for the american people to see him. for his supporters to get a chance to rally around him. and i can tell you this as well, especially given the state of the race, this may be, trace, his last best chance to make that final push. so looks like based on everything we know so far, he will be out there again soon. trace. >> trace: kevin corke live at the white house. thank you. >> sandra: thank you, kevin and trace.

let's bring in louisiana senator john kennedy. he is on the judiciary committee. a big week next week. first to the president not wanting to commit to a virtual debate. the second planned presidential debate. does it help or hurt the president to not commit to this? >> a virtual debate in my judgment is a weird second cousin to a real live debate. i don't think that the debate commission is doing this for the american people. i don't think they're doing this for the candidates. i think the commission is doing this for themselves. i think they didn't like the first debate. i think they think that the moderator or moderators will be able to control the candidates better in a virtual debate. but you know what?

that's not their call. i say hold a live debate. i think it can be done safely. we just did a debate in person with the vice presidential candidates. and let the american people see the candidates in full. once again, the permanent wash types in my judgment, sandra, they think the american people are morons and can't make decisions for themselves. i just think this virtual debate is a bad, bad idea. i don't blame trump for not participating. >> sandra: the difference is the president has tested positive for covid-19 and has since been on the road to recovery since then thankfully. the commission says they're doing it for safety reasons. >> sure they do but they're not. they're not. just move the debate back a few days and require both candidates to get a doctor's

certificate that they're virus-free. test them every seven seconds up to the debate. it's very simple. >> sandra: the president is doing a test today and know the result of that test later on. we'll see what comes from that. but as far as an in-person rally that the president says he is now planning, is it too soon for that, senator? >> well, if the president does an in-person rally, i hope and believe they will take precautions. i hope people will mask up and socially distance. i hope people will practice good hygiene. now that's what i do. but this is america. it is not china. when you don't follow the edicts in china and if you don't wear a mask they'll throw you in prison. we don't do that in america. we're a free country. i wear a mask and i socially

distance and practice good hygiene and i hope the people who attend the rally do the same thing. >> sandra: you mentioned the presidential debate the other night when kamala harris was pressed on what their intentions would be should they win the president to do with the supreme court. she was pressed and did not provide an answer. joe biden has further been pressed on the issue. here is his latest response to that. >> president trump: you'll know my opinion of court packing when the election is over. now look, it's a great question and i don't blame you for asking. but you know the moment i answer that question, the headline in every one of your papers will be about that. other than -- other than focusing on what's happening now. >> sandra: senator, you will know my opinion on court packing when the election is over. you have to elect joe biden to find out what his intentions are with the supreme court. this piece in the atlantic takes on that response and says

this. i'm read it. maybe the biden team thinks court packing is a distraction from the fight over barrett. maybe the question is still unresolved within the campaign. whatever the reason, if democrats win big in november court packing will be an urgent and live question that biden and harris will have to take on within their coalition. evasion isn't a good enough answer. what is your response to joe biden and kamala harris continuing to dodge that question? >> let me say what i think is obvious to the american people. mr. biden is a tool. bernie sanders is the oracle. mr. biden is the nominee but senator sanders is the head of the party. i believe mr. biden has promised senator sanders that he, mr. biden, will pack the court. but he doesn't want to say that

because he knows undermining the independence of the united states supreme court and essentially destroying it is not popular with the american people. so mr. biden has adopted this if i told you what i'm going to do i would have to kill you. why is he doing it? because he can. many members of the press are letting him get away with it. contrast this to 1992, the way the press treated bill clinton. remember when bill clinton was asked about marijuana and he said well, i puffed but i didn't inhale. the media chewed him up, spit him out and stepped on him for trying to have it both ways. but they let mr. biden have a pass. >> sandra: senator, before you go i would like to turn our viewers' focus to the side of the screen where you see hurricane delta heading towards louisiana coast. how is your state preparing for this and what are your

expectations for delta, senator? >> oh, sandra, you know, if 2020 ever slows down, i'm going to get off and walk, you know? six weeks ago laura hit us full in the face, now hurricane delta will hit us full in the face. our first concern is loss of life, you know, the most important things in life aren't things. it breaks my heart. i don't know why bad things happen to good people. we're as ready as we can be. but you know louisianaians, our motto is knock us down seven times and we'll stand up eight and we'll deal with it. but, you know, it just breaks my heart. >> sandra: my best to the people of your state as they brace for that hurricane as it makes its way potential landfall later on. always appreciate it, senator kennedy, thank you.

>> trace: hurricane delta gained a lot of power and lost power over yucatan and back in the gulf gaining a lot of power. hurricane delta a category 3, winds 120 miles per hour. let's bring in janice dean tracking this in the fox weather center. it appears to be both a wind and water event. >> absolutely. and in any given year this would be a bad hurricane. because it's coming on top of many storms. i just want to show you the 2020 u.s. landfalls. this is a record. this will be 10 named storms making landfall across the u.s. it will be a record. the fact we've had all of these storms target the gulf coast including louisiana and this storm really going over the exact same regions as laura did as a category 4 six weeks ago is heartbreaking. the senator is absolutely right. no other way to put it except prayers for louisiana because we already have homes that are

almost completely destroyed and this one is just going to put salt in the wound because it's so devastating. already seeing the heavy rain, the wind certainly, the storm surge again east of the center of circulation will be 7 to 11 feet. it will put things under water in a lot of vulnerable spots and still a category 3. still a category 3. we expect the storm to weaken but not a lot of time left. the landfall will be this afternoon. so the fact that they're going to see hurricane-force winds, relentless rain and pounding along the coast for hours and hours is just not a good news situation. we have at least tropical storm-force winds not only for louisiana but down towards texas shoreline as well. there is the track. we'll get a new one in the next hour or so. still a very strong major hurricane right now, 110 mile-per-hour sustained winds with wind gusts of 120 miles per hour and the heavy rainfall.

5 to 10 inches along the path. isolated spots getting more than a foot of rain. again the fact that this area of louisiana is getting hit in the exact same areas as we saw laura six weeks ago with a cat 4 storm. it is just devastating for this region. prayers for louisiana today, trace. back to you. >> trace: highly unusual. janice dean. back to you as the news breaks. >> sandra: we'll keep watching that. pelosi and mnuchin will continue negotiations today on coronavirus relief. president trump called for stand alone bills to help the airline industry. sending out another batch of stimulus checks. pelosi has indicated she will not move forward on those without a larger agreement in place. >> trace: we're awaiting a news conference from speaker nancy pelosi where she is expected to talk about the 25th amendment on what the speaker calls a

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>> sandra: the f.b.i. breaking up plans to kidnap michigan governor gretchen whitmer. storm the state capitol and overthrow the government. six men conspiring to kidnap the governor. governor whitmer putting some blame on president trump. >> the president of the united states refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups. they heard his words not as a rebuke but as a call the action. >> president trump: she is complaining.

it was our justice department that arrested the people she was complaining about. my justice department that arrested them. instead she goes and does her little political act and keeps her state closed. >> sandra: the plot was broken up with the help of informants and undercover agents. the suspects face up to life in prison if convicted. >> trace: we're awaiting a news conference from speaker nancy pelosi where she is expected to talk about the 25th amendment in response to what democrats say is a lack of transparency on president trump's health. here is the speaker yesterday. watch. >> the public needs to know the health condition of the president. when was his last negative test? to make a judgment about the actions that were taken after that. come here tomorrow. we'll be talking about the 25th amendment. >> trace: which of course is to try to get him out of office. let's bring in guy benson, fox news contributor and host of

the guy benson show. the "new york post" cover on the screen pretty much, you know, pretty much has gop sentiment right there. she is cuckoo. for those on the radio, coup, coup. speaker pelosi will stop at nothing to take down real donald trump. first the russia hoax, then sham impeachment. now trying to invoke the 25th amendment because he fully recovered from the coronavirus. we won't let her get away with it. what are your thoughts on all this, guy? >> well of course nancy pelosi take a legitimate question and turn it into a farce. there should be more transparency from the white house and the president including his last negative test. they've been evasive. i don't think that's good. however, the 25th amendment? this is obviously a very stupid trolling stunt by the speaker of the house. the america people will get a

chance to weigh in on the fitness of this president in just a few weeks, right? that issue will be resolved by the voters. to talk about removing him from office and sort of tease we'll talk about the 25th amendment tomorrow, please tune in. i think the american people would prefer the speaker of the house to be doing her job and shepherding through a covid-19 relief package that can be supported by both parties and help the american people, right? she has been saying for weeks that she would rather americans who are hurting and suffering get nothing than get something that isn't perfectly aligned with her values. that's not acceptable. she is now trying to complain and blame everything on the republicans, the republicans are back at the table yet again. they've put forward proposals. she has put forward her proposal. it is such a massive distraction from what her actual job is and what the priority ought to be. it is politics and trolling and that's what nancy pelosi is about almost 24/7 it seems.

>> trace: there seems to be this flow of threats coming from the democrats, guy. threatening to end the filibuster, pack the supreme court, add senators, and staitsz. now the 25th amendment. what pelosi wants to do is create a commission that includes ex presidents and doctors and so forth to decide on a president's fitness but it appears that nancy pelosi has already decided. listen to her and i'll get your response. >> the president is, shall we say, in an altered state right now. so i don't know how to answer for his behavior. there are those who say that when they are on steroids or if you have covid-19 or both, that there may be some impairment of judgment. >> trace: a lot of people are with you, guy. the president should release his last negative test but altered state, on steroids? something going on? what do you think? >> she is a doctor now, nancy

pelosi, right? she went in without the mask, got her blow-out in a closed salon and maybe during that process picked up medical knowledge and is saying many people are saying x, y, z. something that trump does all the time when he wants to take a cheap shot he at tributes it to unnamed other people. she is the left's donald trump. she doesn't get hammered like it because most of the people in the press agree and are rooting for her party. >> trace: the guy who is supposed to moderate the next debate. steve scully, once interned for joe biden, was once on the staff of the late ted kennedy and he tweeted this to anthony scaramucci. i want to put this on the screen. i don't know if he thought he was direct messaging. he said scaramucci, should i respond to trump? in response scaramucci replies ignore. he has had a hard enough time. more bad stuff about to go down. maybe he was trying to direct message.

either way, this is not good. not a good look for the moderator of the next debate. >> look, i know a lot of people here in d.c. who say steve scully is an incredible person. extremely kind and nice and that he will do a fair job. all that being said when you look at his history as an intern for one of the candidates and then working for a very liberal prominent senator, you know, who is sort of the lion is what they called ted kennedy for a while, and now this message to anthony scaramucci, an extreme critic of president trump. we need an explanation was it a d.m. gone wrong? what was the purpose of that communication? i think we could do with and deserve an explanation. >> trace: yeah. that's a fair assessment. guy benson, always good to see you. thank you. >> of course. >> sandra: progressive lawmakers putting pressure on

joe biden to adopt their far left agenda if he is elected. plus louisiana bracing for the worst as hurricane delta heads for shore. >> this one has me concerned. for some reason i feel -- i have a feeling of doom about my house.

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interview tonight since testing positive for covid-19. he will be interviewed on tucker carlson's show tonight at 8:00 p.m. >> sandra: recording its highest daily total of covid-19 cases since may. more than 1300 positive cases recorded with 11 fatalities. the state health commissioner said it could accelerate without social distancing. >> trace: baltimore, a bus driver was shot dead. the gunman forced himself onto the bus to steal the driver's bag and shot the driver when he pursued him. police have not released a description of the suspect who remains at large. >> sandra: hurricane delta a category three storm as it pushes a life-threatening storm surge toward the u.s. gulf coast. on track to smash into the same part of louisiana where hurricane laura came ashore six

weeks ago. phil keating is live in jennings, louisiana for us this morning. >> good morning to you. here in jefferson davis parish, like every coastal parish in louisiana, even some of the coastal counties in texas along the gulf all right now under the mandatory evacuation. take a look tt downtown of jennings. everything is closed. nothing is open and it will be like that for the rest of the day. now as the day goes on things are only going to spiral down badly. we'll get hurricane winds, super bands of heavy rains. a lot of possible flash flooding and, of course, that potentially deadly storm surge. multi-foot storm surge along the gulf coast. as we were driving through louisiana yesterday and got to baton rouge and kept going west, this is the scene.

massive, massive eastbound traffic of evacuees going slowly bumper to bumper. very creepy crawly and frustrating. the same westbound on the way to texas on i-10. people who haven't gotten out yet, it's getting close to being a little too late. they will either have to hunker down or find a shelter. here is the newest fox storm tool in our arsenal. it is called the fox live storm box. and it basically is a heavy plastic box with a camera inside and a hole out of it. you can see it will broadcast live and record the storm's destruction for 20 hours. really cool thing we'll be using later in the day, trace. sandra. >> sandra: you're on the ground in jennings, louisiana. i know these people were hit hard by the last hurricane and they are taking many more precautions this time around.

phil, we'll continue to watch it. thank you for the update. >> trace: a group of progressive lawmakers including the so-called squad unveiling their vision for america should joe biden win in november. their wish list includes defunding police departments, free healthcare, canceling student debt and $15 minimum wage. let's bring in our panel. radio talk show host. leslie marshall and fox news contributor and david avella. we'll go to david first. it's called the people's charter. i want to put it back on the screen to run down exactly what it is. it calls for defunding the police, free public healthcare, universal childcare, create millions of green jobs, cancel student debt and a $15 minimum wage. and the people, progressives who put this forward are very confident they can influence joe biden to get a lot of this done. your thoughts, david. >> if your hope is to work 360

days a year for the government as you eat a frozen dinner while you wait eight weeks for your doctor's appointment, then this agenda is for you. and it is why you see in state after state americans leave high-tax, high-regulation, low job opportunity states for states that have just the opposite. low taxes, less regulations and more job opportunities. no doubt when leslie joins us here shortly she will say oh, that is no doubt, leslie, you are going to say oh, that's not all democrats believe that agenda. this isn't good cop/bad cop. this is insane cop versus crazy cop talk. do americans really have to suffer through this? >> trace: here is the question, leslie. we put it on the screen and i'm sure you've seen it before the outlines of the people's

charter. roe khanna who signed onto this said the following. it's putting a stake in the ground that we believe joe biden can become a new deal 2.0 president. like i was telling david earlier, leslie, the democrats are very confident, progressives are very confident they can push joe biden to implement the people's charter. your thoughts. >> joe biden has been clear the majority of the democratic party whether among voters or whether it's among the house and senate that they are more moderate and more centrist. look, joe biden the only thing on this list that he has supported which the majority of american people support in light of covid and most likely will on the other side will support is increase to a minimum wage of $15. he has been very clear. he is not in favor of medicare for all and doesn't want to have people get rid of their private insurance but expand on the affordable care act. he has been clear with regard

to student debt it wouldn't all be forgiven. there would be a cap of $10,000 that would be forgiven. he has been very clear that he is not in favor of a lot of what they are saying especially defunding the police. he is into police reform. like the vice president said at the debate bad cops are bad for good cops. he has been very clear about there are mostly good cops out there. and that is not his agenda. it might be their agenda. quite frankly i get mad that they did this. they are a minority and they are a minority in the democratic party and it doesn't help the democratic message when you are just weeks away from an election and you are helping the right's talking points. thank you for telling me what i'm going to say but you aren't entirely right there. >> trace: the whole idea is that a lot of people are saying look, joe biden does sign on to some of the stuff, does believe in some of this stuff but alien aits moderates. you don't want to do that 26 days before the election, which

is why not coming out in favor of court packing won't make the decision on that until after the election. they said kamala harris debate the other night said a couple of times she didn't favor the new green deal. there are some kind of nuances there that we should look at. what are your thoughts on that, david? >> joe biden can't remember when he actually went to delaware state university or didn't go to delaware state university. so to expect him to stay consistent on any given issue could be asking a little bit more than where joe biden is right now. as far as the packing the courts, the reality is the bigger -- democrats are going to be opposed to that whether it's joe manchin who expressed it or dianne feinstein who already said she is not for it. the bigger issue is are they going to give state hood to washington, d.c. to add two democratic senators? let's keep the reality in focus. congress passes far more laws than the supreme court rules on in a given year.

>> trace: last word, leslie. are you surprised when joe biden came out and said as far as court packing he wouldn't tell us his decision until the day after the election? >> no, not entirely. it's completely mute and irrelevant if he is not elected, right? >> trace: what if he is? >> if the people he is speaking to know it's a possibility and elected president it might be something he might consider at the time. look, my side of the aisle a 6-3 court is a packed court. i as an democrat would say that whether it's a liberal or conservative court. it should be a representative of the people and should speak for the people and should have their allegiance to the constitution. and when you have the 6-3 imbalance either way not sure it does that. if he wins an election perhaps the american people are telling him we might support that as well. >> trace: leslie marshall and david avella. thank you both. >> sandra: with election day weeks away now nevada is now

seeing a flurry of campaign activity. can joe biden hold on to this lead six points in a state president trump narrowly lost back in 2016? plus this. >> president trump: we'll see what happens. no, i'm not interested in doing a virtual. i'm not joe biden. i am not going to do a virtual debate and sit behind a computer screen. >> sandra: the president turning down to participate virtually in the next presidential debate with joe biden. will that help or hurt his reelection chances? we'll discuss. most awarded netw, include the best in entertainment, and offer plans to mix and match starting at $35. plus, get two samsung galaxy s20 fe 5g phones for $200 when you switch. only at verizon. with new bounce pet hair & lint guard,tually attract pet hair? your clothes can repel pet hair. look how the shirt on the left attracts pet hair like a magnet! pet hair is no match for bounce. with bounce, you can love your pets, and lint roll less.

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including reckless endangerment. >> sandra: president trump says he is ready to get back on the campaign trail suggesting he may hold rallies this week in the battleground states of florida and pennsylvania. here to talk about all of it is tom bevan. founder and ceo of real clear politics. we want to take a look first what is happening in the state of nevada because we've seen a flurry of campaign activity in recent days there. you had vice president mike pence on the ground, joe biden is there today. here is what's happening in the state. the real clear politics average, tom. and joe biden is currently leading the state by 6 points over president trump. you look at the important issues on the ground for those in nevada, coronavirus and the economy top the list, tom. getting 44% and 44% tie there. can joe biden hold onto the margin that he has right now, tom, in nevada?

>> that's why he is there. this is a state that voted for obama in 2008 by 12 points and dropped to 7 points and down to 2 1/2 points hillary clinton in 2016. and so it all comes down to clark county where 70% of all the voes cast come out of that county including las vegas and why both campaigns are spending time there. the economy. donald trump has an edge on the economy according to voters. joe biden has a bigger edge on handling the coronavirus. so both campaigns will be turn out the vote, get out the vote effort in clark county. why both campaigns are spending a lot of money there. >> sandra: interesting analysis. as i just mentioned coronavirus and the economy top the list. if you look at how each of the candidates are polling on those issues, who do you trust to do a better job on covid-19? and the pandemic? they say joe biden, 52%, 10 points over president trump. tom, to your point, when it comes to the economy they still favor donald trump on that

issue. that being said, i'll bring our viewers to take a look at 2016 results. in the state when it comes to how president trump fared against hillary clinton and as you can see -- that's the entire state. here is clark county. hillary clinton over a 10-point -- 11-point advantage over drufrmd there. is vice president mike pence spending his time in clark county with the rally. why do they think they can make up ground there, tom? >> well, it's -- i think it's dominated by the unions. unions have traditionally turned out for democrats. there has been some movement towards the trump campaign among different union sectors. so that's one reason. the other thing hispanic voters. the trump campaign feels like they're doing better with hispanic voters this time around than last time. hillary clinton won that county by 10 percentage points and took about a 75,000 vote lead out of clark county. only won the state by 27,000

votes. if donald trump can keep joe biden's lead in clark county down, he can make up that ground in the other parts of the state and potentially steal the state away from joe biden. >> sandra: to your point, her margin of victory 11 points in 2016. that was a narrower margin of victory than president obama had over mitt romney in 201. i want to transition to the big topic, what happens at these final two presidential debates. here was the debate commissioner. one of the co-commissioners on fox news last night talking about the virtual debate that the president says he doesn't want to do. listen. >> the president says you don't want that kind of debate sitting in front of a computer. you are not. the provisions were they would sit wherever they wanted. the president could do it from the oval office. press people present and with biden. people there to make sure he wasn't reading off a teleprompter and answering the

question. the president wasn't properly briefed by his people as to what we're talking about when we talk about a virtual debate. >> sandra: what about that? why not commit to this virtual debate? as the commission says it is doing it for safety. there is a lot of political analysis happening now that it's happening for other reasons. what do you think? >> i feel like, joe biden immediately scheduled for a town hall on abc news in philadelphia and donald trump will hold a rally on that same day. i'm not sure how they would put the debate back on the scheduled and redo it or maybe a different date. i don't see how that is going to happen. we're down to two debates now and maybe, you know, i'm not sure that one will necessarily go off. have to wait and see. >> sandra: showing chris wallace at the first of the presidential debates and joining us top of the next hour on all of this. tom bevan. great to have you here this morning.

thank you for taking the spin on touch screen with us. appreciate it. trace. >> trace: well, as we get closer to election day data shows more wealthy donors are giving money to joe biden and the democrats than to republicans. who are the biggest spenders and how much are they giving? plus a cryptic tweet from moderator steve scully has critics questioning his objectivity. chris wallace weighs in on the controversy next. balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. and nutrients to - with the ninja foodito intelligesmart xl grill.ing just pick your protein, select your doneness, and let the grill monitor your food. it also turns into an air fryer. bring outdoor grilling flavors indoors with the grill that grills for you.

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>> trace: very rich people are giving hundreds of millions of dollars to both the trump and biden campaigns but according to financial data biden holds an edge with big money donors. william la jeunesse live for us in los angeles. william, this flips conventional wisdom on its head.

democrats traditionally portray republicans as the big money party. what's changing? >> rhetoric are not reality. president trump has more small donors under $200 than biden who gets more money from billionaires. that wouldn't have been a winning tag line in a primary. >> we cannot afford a billionaire class. >> i don't think any billionaire ought to do it. >> they're back. >> we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars. >> republican businessman richard uihlein. casino magnate. balanced by democrats. tom steyer, and others. activist and michael bloomberg. >> it is important to know who is influencing our election.

>> 134 billionaires support joe biden. compared to 101 for donald trump. continuing a trend in 2018 billionaires gave more to democrats than republicans. by law candidates can only accept $5,600 per donor per cycle. but donors can give unlimited amounts to outside groups. steier gave biden's camp over $500,000 but dropped $54 million to pacs supporting biden and other democrats. >> when millionaires and billionaires buy ads. that's politics. >> trace: william, thank you. >> sandra: broadway theaters will remain dark until at least next summer. they extended the shutdown through may 30th. the move affects a number of

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>> sandra: brand-new hour.

here is what's happening. >> come here tomorrow and we'll be talking about the 25th amendment. >> house speaker nancy pelosi teasing the possibility of removing the president under the 25th amendment due to his health. but the white house physician just cleared him for in-person events. >> mr. president, when was the last time you had a negative test before you tested positive? >> last night the f.b.i. and michigan state police arrested six individuals charged in a federal complaint with conspiring to kidnap the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer. >> bigotry and violence have no place in the great state of michigan. >> hurricane delta intensifying overnight. category 3 storm packing 120 mile-per-hour winds. >> sandra: more on those top stories in a moment. the remaining debates are now up in the air as president

trump says there is no way he will commit to a virtual debate next week. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," it is friday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm sandra smith. >> trace: hello, i'm trace gallagher. during the back and forth between the trump and biden campaigns president trump went after the former vice president for once again refusing to say if he supports adding more justices to the supreme court. biden making no apologies for keeping his cards close to his vest. >> you will know my opinion on court packing when the election is over. that's a great question and i don't blame you for asking. but you know the moment i answer that question, the headline in every one of your papers will be about that. other than -- other than focusing on what's happening now. >> trace: peter doocy is live in las vegas where biden is trying to keep nevada in the democratic column. peter. >> good morning, biden and

kamala harris will have a drivein event here in las vegas later on this afternoon. they spent the night in arizona where their remarks in first week voters had a new urgency about voting now. >> don't risk delays. return that mail-in ballot as soon as you can. make sure your voice is heard because if your voice can overcome and go out and vote, your voice to your vote can overcome every one of the challenges we face. by the way, you know they are setting up? they're setting up the argument these votes aren't going to matter. >> while biden was in the air on his way to the west coast the campaign made other plans for him the night of that second debate that president donald trump doesn't want to do. he will participate in a

television town hall. doesn't sound like the commission that is supposed to be nonpartisan has much sympathy for the trump campaign's argument. >> the president said you don't want that kind of a debate sitting in front of a computer. you are not. the provisions were they would sit wherever they wanted to. the president could do it from the oval office. press people present and also with biden. people there to make sure he wasn't reading off a teleprompter. >> joe biden finished a second to bernie sanders in the primary and not back since. we expect he and his running mate to be on the ground later this morning. >> trace: peter, thank you. >> sandra: president trump could return to public campaign events as soon as tomorrow after his doctor said yesterday that the president has finished his course of treatment for covid-19. the president says he is considering a rally in florida tomorrow and another in pennsylvania on sunday.

among other possible events this weekend. >> trace: news alert out of michigan. 13 men face state and terrorism charges in what federal and state officials say was a plot to kidnap michigan governor gretchen whitmer. she is speaking out blaming president trump for not condemning hate groups. >> the president of the united states stood before the american people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two michigan militia groups. stand back and stand by he told them. stand back and stand by. hate groups heard the president's words not as a rebuke but as a rallying cry. >> trace: congressman steve scalise who was shot by a bernie sanders supporter in 2017 reacting on "fox & friends" earlier. >> so sad to see how she is trying to inject politics into something that again, i mean, just like bernie wasn't

responsible. if crazy people try to do crazy things, thank god there was law enforcement in my face to protect everybody on the baseball field. thank god president trump's justice department to stop and thwart this plot. >> trace: much more on the story later in the show. >> sandra: new drama surrounding the second presidential debate. the scheduled moderator steve scully of c-span, a one-time intern of joe biden sparking questions about his objectivity with a tweet last night that was directed at former white house communications director an thon scaramucci. he said should i respond to trump? scaramucci replied ignore. who better to talk to and ask about all of this than last week's big moderator of the first presidential debate chris wallace. curious, your thoughts on that first.

>> well, you know, i am very loyal to the commission on presidential debates. i think they do -- i know they are getting hit now for being biased. they're not. i think they are bipartisan and do the best job they can in a very tense and contentious political situation. i don't know that that scully tweet is especially helpful. you know, i don't tweet at all. i'm not on twitter and i have found that to be an extremely good practice. i've never once thought boy, i wish i was on twitter and people could read my tweets. do i think steve scully is biased? i don't. i think he is a fair minded reporter. this isn't helpful. how else can you say it? it's not. >> sandra: there is a lot of talk about whether or not this commission should have moved this to virtual after the president's doctor says he is okay to appear in person now

and the debate still days away. but joe biden is responding to the change in the debate format and put out a statement to this. as a result joe biden will find an appropriate place to take questions from voters directly. given the president's refusal to participate on act 15th we hope the debate commission will move the biden/trump town hall to october 22 so the president is not able to evade accountability. they said move it back a few days. we can do it then. then they also asked to move the third debate back. but chris, it is almost difficult to keep track of all this but at some point we are getting pretty darn close to election day to be having presidential debates. >> i actually don't think it's that complicated. i think there is not going to be the debate next week and pretty clearly and i think the president made a big mistake. i can understand where he

wanted an in-person debate for he and biden to be on the same stage. i don't think it was unreasonable for the commission to say look, given all the concerns about people's health that we are going to make it a virtual debate. you heard the chairman or co-chair of the commission say there would have been people in the room to make sure people weren't reading off teleprompter. where i think the president made a mistake is maybe a virtual debate isn't an in-person debate but better than no debate. that's what the president will get now. he is behind in the polls. he has two opportunities it seems to me two big opportunities to flip the script which were the two debates and he gave one of them away. looks like there will be one final debate on the 22nd. there won't be a debate the last week. i know the white house is calling for that. the biden campaign has said all along we're going with the debates as scheduled. there is not a chance in the world there will be a debate

five days before the election. it just isn't going to happen. >> sandra: here we are that close to election day and nancy pelosi the speaker of the house is making a lot of news as you know, chris. for talking about using the 25th amendment to remove the president from power, calling into question his ability to be the president right now. listen. here is nancy pelosi. okay. here is what she says. i think the public needs to know the health condition of the president. that is her concern. there is one question that he refused to answer. before he got the virus and admitted to it, when was his last negative test? when was his negative test? are these legitimate questions, or is the criticism of this just going too far warranted? >> i think when was his last test is a legitimate question, which the president and white house have refused to answer. i think the question sean

hannity asked the president last night, you had covid last week, have you passed a test? are you negative? are you covid-free? that's a perfectly legitimate question. the president didn't answer it. as far as the 25th amendment and invoking that, it is a political stunt and, you know, politics is politics but it is not serious. it is not going to result in any change to the 25th amendment to the constitution. and the democrats are playing politics with the president's health, you know, that's what happens as you get into the final days of the campaign. both -- some of it is very serious, some of it is the silly season. i put this in the latter category. >> sandra: we'll all be watching "fox news sunday" on sunday. what do you have coming up? >> we know -- one thing we haven't talked about here and normally the biggest news is we have a supreme court confirmation hearing first thing monday morning. we'll have two key players in the senate judiciary committee

ben sass republican, chris coons, democrat who will be questioning judgment amy coney barrett about whether or not she will become justice amy coney barrett. we are hoping to have representatives of the biden and trump campaigns clear up what's going to happen in these final weeks of the campaign about debates and other things. lots to talk about on "fox news sunday". >> sandra: as far as the hearings, we'll have them live from "america's newsroom" starting monday morning. what do you expect? how far do you expect democrats will go to stop her confirmation in those hearings? >> well, i'm not sure they really can do anything. i think they can try to make republicans pay a political price by raising the issue as to whether judge barrett would overturn roe verses wade and overturn the affordable care act. i think they can do things to try to play politics on it and try to make some points but i don't think they have the votes. it's a matter of that to to blo

the nomination. i think they have to be careful about one thing. if what their criticism or questioning of barrett is seen as in way questioning her faith, i think that has the potential for a big backlash. i think they have to be very careful not to do that. >> sandra: we'll see you sunday. chris wallace, thank you. >> you bet. thank you, sandra. >> trace: southwest louisiana bracing for hurricane delta to make landfall later today even as people are still recovering from hurricane laura in august. casey stiegel live for us in lake charles, louisiana. casey. >> trace, the rain is really coming down and you talk about hurricane laura. that hit six weeks ago. i want to show you what the people are up against with delta now approaching. six weeks later and you have piles and piles of debris just like this on just about every street in lake charles. and then off in the distance you see the little park. so many of the structures here

sustained damage, lost roofs, all of it or a portion of the so they are tarped. the damage looks like this for miles and miles in every direction and now emergency officials say that they are gravely concerned about hurricane delta blowing all of this stuff around when the storm makes landfall this evening as a category 2 bringing with it isolated rainfall totals of 14 inches and up to 11 feet of storm surge along the southwest louisiana coast. >> we stayed through laura and my wife and i said we'll never stay for another hurricane again. i booked rooms on tuesday in houston. >> time is running out for people to get out. evacuees sitting in bumper to bumper traffic headed to escape delta's path. gas stations trying to fuel up. last-minute preparations are taking place. if there is a little bit of a

silver lining here, it is that the storm is moving rather quickly and it is expected to lose a lot of steam quickly once it does make landfall tonight. it is not going to linger around like sally and some of the others have done. no doubt this is just the last thing people in this neck of the woods need, trace. >> trace: getting hit twice in a decade in a long shot. getting hit twice in the same year is very low odds. casey stiegel. back to you as the news break. >> sandra: we're expecting to hear from house speaker nancy pelosi discussing the 25th amendment and president trump. we'll talk to a senator accusing democrats of engaging in a coup next. kamala harris fact checked wednesday night's debate. what the "washington post" uncovered. that's coming up. >> joe biden will not end fracking. he has been very clear about that. >> senator harris you are entitled to your own opinion

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>> sandra: let's listen to this. >> protect the stability and integrity of our democracy for the future. that is why today again it's my honor to welcome congressman as

he introduces legislation to establish a commission on presidential capacity to discharge the duties and the powers and duties of the office. this is not about president trump. he will face a judgment of the voters. but he shows a need for us to create a process for future presidents. so our leaders have created and strengthened guardrails in the constitution to insure stability and continuity of government in times of crisis. the 25th amendment creates a path if a president suffers a crippling physical or mental problem and is unable in the amendment, unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office and transfers his powers. specifically section 4 of the amendment empowers congress to

set up an independent body to confront such a crisis. congress has a constitutional duty to lay out the process by which a president's incapacity and the president of any party is determined. this bill honors the duty by creating a standing commission of top former executive officials and medical experts selected in a bipartisan way. a president's fitness for office must be determined by science and fagts. this legislation applies to future presidents. but we are reminded of the necessity of action by the health of the current president. with this bill the congress honors our oath to support and defend the constitution and protect the american people. and we uphold our responsibility to preserve our republic for generations to come. now it is my honor to yield to

the distinguished gentleman from maryland. a constitutional authority by teaching it, honoring it and again legislating to honor our constitution, congressman raskin. thank you for your leadership. >> madam speaker, thank you very much. i'm honored by your words and thank you for inviting me to present to the press this legislation. in times of chaos we must hold fast to our constitution. the 25th amendment is all about the stability of the presidency and continuity of the office. a tool that was adopted by overwhelming bipartisan majorities in the house and in the senate in 1965 and overwhelming bipartisan majority of the state

legislatures, 3/4 of who passed in 1967. it is designed to guarantee the continuing peaceful transfer of power in our country. the principle authors of the amendment like senators birch bye. >> sandra: you see nancy pelosi's news conference discussing legislation to create a commission that would allow congress to remove the president from office invoking the 25th amendment, calling into question the president's ability to govern right now based on his health. mitch mcconnell has responded to her floating this idea calling it absurd, absolutely absurd, he said. right here in the last three weeks before the election. i think those kind of wild comments should be largely discounted. reaction has been pouring into her floating this idea. this was the news conference where she is trying to make that a reality. more on this coming up throughout the hour. trace. >> trace: bring in senator ron johnson on this.

he is going to give us a little insight what he has faced. senator johnson, great to see you. i'm not sure if you heard nancy pelosi's news conference there talking about the 25th amendment. clearly she is saying she wants to put this committee together. a committee of doctors and lawmakers, etc. that would be able to assess the, you know, capacity of a president to remain in office. she said it is not about president trump but clearly he is the motivation for this effort. your thoughts on that quickly, sir. >> of course this is about president trump. i agree with leader mcconnell. it is absurd and further proof the democrats have never recognized the wishes of the american people when they elected donald trump as president in 2016. you had people within government, in the obama administration carried over into the trump administration completely corrupted the transition process. president trump is absolutely correct. there was no peaceful transition in 2016. and what i've tried to lay out

in an op-ed in a column today was this literally was an attempted coup. when you take a look at what robert mueller should have investigated, what he should have revealed, a couple of years ago is the corruption of the investigation into president trump, the complicity, duplicity of the press in accepting all these false leaks and carrying democrats' water for years. this is outrageous what is happening. time is running out to get to the bottom of this. i am glad president trump will order the declassification of all the information. the problem is we don't know what documents are hidden inside these agencies because people still in these agencies are covering up and hiding them from us. >> trace: talk about when you say is an attempted coup going on and when you say running out of time. if joe biden gets into office you don't think the information will get out. you also think that democrats

continue to knock this down saying that it is kind of concocted by the gop. they repeat that over and over again. you write in part quoting we have reached the moment of truth. we'll hear howling and screaming that the president is politicizing the agencies and threatening national security but what is the greater threat to our democracy, transparency or the continued cover-up of an attempted coup against the dully elected president and you include the media in that quote. you believe the media is somehow complicit in this. your thoughts. >> absolutely. the media knows who leaked them false information. that produced this false narrative of russian collusion with trump campaign for two years. have you heard anybody in the media come out and out those sources that gave them false information? i just want to show this is the obstruction that we're experiencing as committee trying to get information out of these agencies. corruption was with the

transition itself. is general services administration. we've asked for documents. they provided us this email and your listeners can see this and read the email. we've subpoenaed the f.b.i. because they stonewalled our request. here is the exact email produced by the f.b.i. notice how the entire email is redacted. nothing in this email that threatens national security. it might be embarrassing to individuals or agencies. that's the obstruction. that's the stone wall i am talking about that has to end. if joe biden gets elected president this will be buried for all time. we won't know the full corruption of the transition. >> trace: hard for us to assess the documents on the screen and we move away from those. what you are saying you have always pointed to the f.b.i., coming down to the f.b.i. using the steele dossier in short to get these fisa warrants against the trump campaign.

very quickly your thoughts on that. we have a few seconds left. we know and you know now the f.b.i. -- 10 seconds left. this source that contributed to this dossier was unworthy. >> a suspected russian agent. the f.b.i. knew, the clinton campaign paid for it. the sub source was suspected to be a russian agent. f.b.i. investigated him. they knew all this and the investigation continued. they had special counsel and mueller was completely silent on the corruption of the f.b.i. process. he didn't want to see it and sure didn't want the american people to see all that corruption. >> trace: good of you to join us, sir, thank you. >> have a good day. >> sandra: as you can see on your screen we're tracking the latest on hurricane delta targeting areas still recovering from hurricane laura. when and where that storm could make landfall. plus michigan governor gretchen whitmer is speeng out after

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his coronavirus diagnosis last week on tucker carlson tonight. >> sandra: house speaker nancy pelosi introducing a bill that establishes a commission to allow congress to invoke the 25th amendment and remove the president from office. >> trace: states of emergency issued along the gulf coast as hurricane delta closes in. it's expected to make landfall later today in southwestern louisiana, which hurricane laura devastated six weeks ago. >> sandra: michigan governor gretchen whitmer speaking out about what officials at the f.b.i. are calling for a plot to kidnap here. her. 13 militia members face terrorism charges. >> this plot went far beyond simply kidnapping the governor. prosecutors say this group wanted to instigate a civil war. according to the criminal complaint the 13 suspects who

have ties to a militia group had been planning and training for this operation the last few months. they planned to target police officers at their homes, storm the sait capitol building and take politicians hostage. governor gretchen whitmer was their top target and they planned to kidnap her at her vacation home and take her to a secure location in wisconsin to put her on trial for treason. >> fox and kroft in particular according to the complaint discussed detonating explosives devices to divert police from the area of the home. they inspected the underside of a michigan highway bridge for places to put an explosive. >> they say the group wanted to overthrow an unnamed number of state governments in their view violating the constitution. in part with restrictions put in place during the pandemic. for the past few months the suspects trained for the operation which they planned to carry out before election day.

neighbors to one of the suspects said they assumed some kind of militia was training. they thought all the gunshots they heard on the weekends. >> he made it clear he had an arsenal of guns in his home. covid shutdown, that's my guess. part of the reason why they got kicked out of the park was back rent. he couldn't work. >> today michigan's attorney general said the governor was updated on the investigation and on several occasions she and her family had to be moved as investigators were tracking the suspects. sandra. >> trace: a continual picture.

a portland newspaper has -- carly shimkus is here with more. the skirt was a communist chic thing. how liberal residents in portland want their mayor to be. ted wheeler's handling of the protests and riots widely criticized by both sides of the aisle. he refused support from president trump and from the national guard. but at the same time, he is a police commissioner and also got criticized by black lives matter supporters. in comes sarah the features the faces of communist leader and someone who posted this tweet in january of last year saying for those who say antifa are violent thugs, i'm not a violent thug and i am antifa. so she could quite possibly be

the first mayor who actively supports a group that president trump wants to label a terrorist organization. >> trace: we should note others were on that skirt. kamala harris she in talking in the vice presidential debate the other night about presidents should not select the supreme court nominee during election year, she quoted abraham lincoln. watch. >> not the right thing to do. the american people deserve to make the decision about who will be the next president of the united states and then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime on the highest court of our land. >> she quoted abraham lincoln. he said that not so correct. >> okay. anybody who watched the debate will remember the history lesson that kamala harris delivered that abraham lincoln had an opportunity to do that

but de-- they did a fact check. the reason abraham lincoln didn't nominate a supreme court justice waiting for letters of expression from the public and who to nominate and congress wouldn't be back in session until december after the election. so he wouldn't have had time to nominate a supreme court judge. so given those facts it sounds like honest abe would have nominated a judge if he could. oh boy. >> trace: honest abe still honest. a little shaky. thank you. >> sandra: thanks. progressives pressuring biden after releasing a far left policy agenda if he wins the presidency. so will this hurt biden's campaign? house speaker nancy pelosi setting the stage for a constitutional battle hoping to

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>> sandra: progressives keeping the heat on joe biden releasing a policy platform for next year. the squad of democratic lawmakers those behind the platform. free public healthcare. canceling student death and reallocating funding from police departments. fox news contributor marc thiessen, former speech writer for george w. bush and juan williams is a political analyst. marc and juan. happy friday. start this off for us. are they pressuring joe biden before election day? what does it mean for him? >> well, i think that it showed the importance of getting joe biden to say on the record

whether he is going to support getting rid of the legislative filibuster or packing the courts that he refuses to say. the reason is simple. the democrats take back the senate and the house, the only check on their power will be the republican minority in the senate and their ability to filibuster. they plan to get rid of the filibuster allow the democrats to have power to pass everything they want on climate, taxes, energy, you name it. the squad will be -- not only that they will use the pandemic as an excuse to pass the -- they will fundamentally change the institutions of our country and pack the supreme court and pack the senate by adding states like the district of columbia and puerto rico. four more democratic senators. the key question. will the squad be empowered by joe biden by getting rid of the

legislative filibuster. >> sandra: put up on the screen. it is not just universal free healthcare they're calling for in this agenda. jobs, guaranteed for 16 million people. defunding the police as we just said. government takeover of oil and gas companies as well. packing the court. kamala harris dodged it there and joe biden dodging it yet again. listen. >> you will know my opinion on court packing when the election is over. it's a great question and i don't blame you for asking. you know the moment i answer that question, the headline in every one of your papers will be about that. other than -- other than focusing on what's happening now. >> sandra: so sounds familiar, juan. vote for me and put me in office and then you'll find out what my intentions are. is that the case? >> i don't think so.

i feel like today, sandra, is actually halloween. i'm frightened. the squad is coming, aoc is coming, pelosi is coming. the reality is, joe biden has a very moderate agenda. it is not the squad's agenda or not aoc's agenda or not bernie sanders' agenda or kamala harris. it is joe biden's agenda. he has been very clear his agenda is not the green new deal. not defund the police, it is not medicare for all. there is a biden plan in the democratic platform. he has been criticized for saying he is the democratic party right now. by the way, polls show that americans actually support medicare for all. they support police reform. they support stronger environmental protections. but it is not the case because somebody on the left is pushing at joe biden that that is a hidden agenda.

the reality is, including on the supreme court, that he has the opportunity to react to whatever it is that the republicans do especially with this upcoming nomination of amy coney barrett. >> sandra: i want -- >> including most americans see as an illegitimate process that's being forced. >> no they don't, actually. only a third of folks do. that's not true. >> sandra: a couple of things we want to dig into there. the green new deal. we know the squad pushes him on that. aoc is making that an incredibly important factor for her and the squad. she calls the green new deal a crucial framework for the climate changes we face. how can you say he is against it? marc, you go. >> that's the least of our problems if they get rid of the legislative filibuster and why

it's so irresponsible for joe biden to not say what he is going to do. it is not just passing radical legislation, though they will certainly do that. the legislation will be more radical. what the filibuster does it forces the one side to compromise with the other. with the senate republicans can slow down or block legislation and they will have to negotiate and we have a result that's the result of consensus, not just one party's vision. so there will be no check on the radical agenda. even more fundamental than that. they'll change institutions of our country. add justices to the supreme court and add states which means they will have four more democratic senators. what they'll do is use the power to make it harder for republicans to come back and regain power. this is what one party state did. it is not what we do in a democracy. >> sandra: one final, juan. >> i think marc thinks they're

more powerful than anybody seen them. in 2018 it was democratic moderates that took the house. the majority of the people in the house, not the far left. >> sandra: all right. thank you guys. we'll have you back soon. >> trace: president trump says he is ready to go as he makes plans to get back on the campaign trail. but first he is set to hold a massive radio rally today with rush limbaugh after rejecting plans for a virtual debate with joe biden. >> president trump: let's get a fair anchor, somebody like the great sean hannity. we'll get rush. get marc. and offer the answers that make someone feel truly heard. i understand, let's get started call a dell technologies advisor today.

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we've got some brand-new information on the second presidential debate moderator steve scully from c-span. let's bring in chris wallace. what are we learning? >> we're learning lot. you and i had a conversation at the beginning of the last hour about a tweet that steve scully had supposedly sent to anthony scaramucci, former trump aide. now trump opponent asking how he should respond to an attack from the president? what i'm now told by officials in the commission on presidential debates is that steve scully never sent that tweet. that someone was able to get into his account, to use his twitter handle, and made up this tweet exchange with anthony scaramucci and that it was a hacking of scully's twitter account that he never actually sent that tweet. so if that's the case and we need to hear from steve scully, who works for c-span directly,

the commission on presidential debate says that tweet never happened. it was made up. i also got more information from the commission as to why they made the fairly dramatic move to move from an in-person town hall next thursday to a virtual town hall next thursday, a proposal that the president rejected. and what i'm told by officials on the commission on presidential debates is that nobody wanted to be in the same room with president trump as he is just recovering from covid at the adrian art center in miami. when you say nobody wanted to be in the room are you talking about staff, cameramen? i was told yes, them but also members of the public who would have been asking questions of the two candidates so they were having great difficulty recruiting people undecided voters to appear in the room because they were concerned that they would get the covid virus from the president, who

as we say is just recovering and the white house has not told us that he has tested negative for having the covid virus or being able to shed the virus into other people. so those are two fairly dramatic developments in this whole story. >> sandra: what should we make of it, chris? the bring the full story in here. we look at the tweet directed to anthony scaramucci he used to work inside the trump white house for a very short of time. used to support president trump. he no longer does. he supports joe biden. the alleged hacked tweet now was directed at scaramucci. should i respond to trump? and then that tweet was later deleted before we're now learning that the commission is saying as you are reporting that his account -- steve scully's account was hacked. i have to point out that obviously his objectivity has

been called into question based on that tweet and other things like past relationships with joe biden, etc. >> yeah. look, obviously when we talked about it i said a tweet to anthony scaramucci now leading republicans against donald trump group was not helpful and was concerning. but assuming that what the commission is saying is confirmed by scully himself, it becomes a completely different matter. i might say an equally concerning matter if there was somebody out there who was hacking into scully's twitter account and making up exchanges with people to try to discredit them when in fact none of that was true, that would be a real effort to try to reshape and distract from a campaign by trying to discredit people who were going to be participating in the presidential debates. you know, the question as to his internship, look, people will make of it what they will.

i worked as an intern in college for the democratic mayor of boston, kevin white, in 1968. so that was what, 52 years ago. you know, it was a college internship a half century ago. i don't make a lot of that. steve scully has been an honest, fair reporter. i have to say i was somewhat concerned when i heard about this tweet exchange with scaramucci but apparently it never happened. >> sandra: trace, you want to jump in there? >> trace: it's trace. i'm fascinated by the whole breaking news you just brought us from the debate commission. is it odd do you find, chris, the debate commission would change the entire debate because some people didn't want to be in the room with the president when they know full well that the president would never be allowed at this debate if he could not prove that he tested negative at least twice, to let them sway the decision

to where the debate would be held, the format, etc., do you find that odd? >> no, because i think there are serious questions as to how the president behaved in the first debate. the white house has refused to say the last time that the president tested negative before he went to the debate. and so i think there is some concern. you know, the timeline really is very questionable. if the president tested positive on thursday night as he did, we're talking now a week ago, for having the coronavirus in the middle of the night on thursday night, two nights after that debate, you oftentimes don't get a positive test until the virus has built up to a considerable degree. so there is a real question that i think a lot of people have as to whether the president and first lady in fact had the virus when they

appeared in cleveland for the first debate. so there is a lot of question. i can tell you on the part of the presidential debate about whether or not they've been getting the scoop all along from this white house about the health of the president and the health of the first lady. of course we also had that rather remarkable scene where at the debate although the rules, trace, were absolutely set, nobody except for the president, vice president biden and i, nobody was supposed to be without a mask. the entire presidential first family, after coming in with masks, took off the masks against the rules of the commission and even when a member of the cleveland clinic came and offered to give them masks, they waved them away. >> sandra: chris, i want to clarify. so right now it's scully that is saying that his account was hacked. we would have to hear something also on the part of anthony scaramucci as well, right?

because before the alleged hacked twitter account that posted that tweet, before this was confirmed it was pulled down. it was deleted. before that happened anthony scaramucci responded to the tweet saying ignore. he is having a hard enough time. more bad stuff about to go down. anthony scaramucci responded in the capacity that it wasn't entirely surprising scully reached out on twitter. the speculation is that scully meant this to be a direct twitter message rather than a public tweet. >> i am aware of that. that's why when we first heard it was hacked i wondered whether that meant scully meant it to be secret or it was secret and it had been revealed. i am told by the commission, we have to pursue this with steve scully, the commission is saying that scully never sent that message. as to whether scaramucci

thought he was getting a legitimate message or not and decided to respond, that's on scaramucci. if scully didn't do it that's an important fact we need to know. >> sandra: chris wallace, appreciate it. thank you. >> trace: thank you, chris. meantime president trump eager to get back on the campaign trail saying he is better after being diagnosed with covid-19. the president says he is in great shape and could be stumping in two key states as soon as tomorrow. the president's doctor giving him the green light to return to public engagements one week after he announced the coronavirus diagnosis. he told sean hannity his campaign is working on arrangements for rallies this weekend in florida and pennsylvania. >> president trump: i too this regeneron. it is phenomenal. eli lilly has something very comparable. a whole new day.

i think i will try to do a rally saturday night probably in florida on saturday night if we have time to put it together. might come back and do one in pennsylvania the following night. and it's incredible what's going on. i feel so good. >> trace: mark meredith live in washington any idea where in florida the campaign plans to go? >> not yet. campaign sources. this could be a few days away. the president said last night he was not 100% sure his campaign could get a rally organized in time. lately events have been happening at airports where the flies in, speaks, flies right out. during his end of the interview the president said his doctors are telling him it is safe to get back to work. late thursday the white house releasing an update from the president's physician says the president has responded extremely well to the treatment and the white house is also doubling down on that message. >> he assured me the medical tests are underway that will insure when the president is back out there he will not be

able to transmit the virus. >> trace: the doctors may not be enough to salvage what you and chris were talking about. next week's presidential debate. they announced the candidates speak virtually. the president ejected that format immediately and talked about this last night. >> president trump: no, i'm not interested in doing a virtual. i'm not joe biden. i won't do a virtual debate and sit behind a computer screen. it gives him the answers. >> biden told reporters thursday he was willing to do the debate per the commission's format but says he has no interest in trying to change the date that would fit the president's demand. >> we set the date. i'm sticking with the date. i'm showing up. i'll be there and in fact if he shows up, fine, if he doesn't, fine. >> trace: today the biden campaign says it is rolling out at least five new ads it plans

to air. it accuses president trump of sabotaging social security and medicare. another targets manufacturers and union workers. the ads are set to air in 16 states including nevada. this week the trump campaign decided to cancel some of its tv time it reserves for wisconsin and michigan, trace. >> sandra: as chris wallace just reported here the debate commission decided to make the second debate virtual hearing the president was contagious. let's bring in karl rove. deputy chief of staff of george w. bush. i'll get to the scully tweet situation in a second. first to the president saying no go with a virtual rally -- for a virtual debate, rally instead. is this a mistake on the part of the president or a good move? >> well, first of all there are two mistakes here. i think the president was not wise to say i'm not going. i don't want to participate. he should have said i don't want to participate but should

have insisted there be discussions between the biden campaign and the commission and his campaign to see if they could arrive at a solution. let me look at the bigger problem. the debate commission which often acts in an impeerous fashion. we dealt with them in 2004. a sitting president with an international meeting on one of the days they picked to be a debate day and refused -- long in advance of their decision what days would be debate days, we had an international meeting and had to move an international meeting because the debate commission said take it or leave it we'll use this date. we don't care if you have a long scheduled international meeting. you have to be here and do the debate. the decision that they made unilaterally to cancel the in-person debate because of concerns about whether or not the president would be shedding virus in the meeting. they should have sat down with the white house doctors and said when will you be able to affirm to us that he does not represent a daingner that respect? instead they made a decision

and it was a bad decision and further undermines the credibility of the commission. they already look like they are putting their finger on the -- insisting on a virtual debate and to say take it or leave it really a problem. >> sandra: can i get you to weigh in on the news at the top of the hour that chris wallace just confirmed that the debate commission is now saying that steve scully, who is the moderator of the second debate from c-span his twitter account has been hacked after he sent this tweet to anthony scaramucci seeking advice as to how to respond after being attacked by president trump. what do you make of it? >> well, if steve scully says his account was hacked and he didn't send the message i believe him. i've known him a long time. i see him as an honorable person. a good choice for the debate moderator. i could see somebody trying to do this.

if he says that he didn't send an text message to anthony scaramucci i would believe steve scully. we need to hear from him. the debate commission is shredding its reputation by doing things like -- look, they were so tone deaf. they don't seem to understand what america has been seeing for five or six months is that joe biden was in his basement and apparently with a teleprompter so people could pop up talking points while he was being questioned by local news people. they could pop up talking points appearing on a teleprompter in front of the tv screen so he had assistance in answering questions. and what kind of guarantee do we have that wasn't going to happen in a presidential debate that one guy would be relying upon technical tricks to help him keep up with things and the other guy would not be reliant upon a teleprompter? they have to have steve scully come out and say what happened and then i think the american people have better credibility and believe in it.

>> sandra: to your point right now being confirmed from the debate commission through chris wallace as he reported at the top of the hour. we'll see if we hear from steve scully himself and anything formally from the debate commission on that. final thoughts on the 2020 pew research polling just 10,500 registered voters, joe biden polling 52% to president trump's 42% right now, karl rove. aligns with the latest real clear politics average and we'll put that up as well at biden 52% to trump's 42%. your thoughts as we're getting close to election day. >> remember, we're about on the four-year anniversary of the axis hollywood tape. i along with other people thought doomed trump's chances in 2016. the polls were roughly where they were today. so i'm not -- this is going to be a very unpredictable race and have lots of twists and turns in the remaining 20 some

odd days. the president is behind a day. i don't think it's 10 points. i think there are a couple of points that trump people who don't want to tell a stranger on the telephone who they are for. the president is behind and needs to shake up the race. in my opinion he needs to have two debates, not one. the next debate should be next week and maybe why the debate commission jerked the date and said take it or leave it. it will be virtual. if you don't want to be virtual we're jerking the date. maybe that's why they did it. >> sandra: we don't know that. always great to have you on. >> trace: dangerous hurricane taking aim at the gulf coast. a new forecast just out. we'll have that next. veterans, record low mortgage rates have just dropped even lower. using their va benefits, veterans who refi at newday can now save $3000 dollars a year with the va streamline refi. at newday there's no income verification, no appraisal,

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>> sandra: fox news alert now from the gulf coast where a powerful hurricane is expected to make landfall this afternoon. janice dean is tracking hurricane delta for us. janice. >> hi, sandra, yes. still amajor hurricane, category 3. this is an impressive storm for october. and any other season it would still be quite a storm moving in towards louisiana. the thing that makes this even worse is it's coming within 20 miles of where another hurricane, a category 4 laura

just six weeks ago is moving in. some of these people haven't been able to even recover from that hurricane. this is just a worst-case scenario. expecting a landfall later this afternoon into this evening around 6:00 or 7:00 p.m. eastern time. already seeing heavy rain and strong winds as well as storm surge lashing the coast of texas, southeast texas and southwestern louisiana. we have at least tropical storm-force winds in galveston and lake charles. a repeat of a terrible situation from six weeks ago unfortunately. there is a track as of 11:00 a.m. still a major hurricane as it move towards the coast just hours now before landfall. we'll see upwards of 6 to 10 inches of heavy rain. isolated amounts of 12 inches and then the storm surge just east of the center of circulation, 7 to 11 feet. it will put some areas under

water again. so this is such a terrible situation. any day you have a hurricane bearing down on the coastline is terrible. to have this coming within 20 miles of where a cat 4 hit just weeks ago is devastating. there is the forecast radar. the good news if there is any, it will move quickly once it makes landfall and move across the mississippi and tennessee river valley on the weekend. flash flooding will be a big concern for parts of louisiana, texas, into mississippi, up towards arkansas. we have that greatest flash flood risk for southeast texas, southwestern louisiana and again the threat for tornadoes as well. weak tornadoes that could cause more structural damage. a lot of these homes are already damaged from six weeks ago. it is not going to take much to add a terrible situation to an already devastating area. sea surface temperatures warm enough to keep it together for

now. but as it gets to the coast, the cooler waters will start to weaken it and it comes over land. a lot of oil platforms out here as well, sandra. any way you slice it there is no good news. this is a devastating hurricane on top of what was incredible damage just weeks ago. >> sandra: incredible challenge. we'll continue to watch it with you, janice dean, thank you. >> i do know and you probably pick up on it in a minute he was hacked. there were apparently something on television and radio saying that he talked to scaramucci, the guy who was in the white house. and that he was talking to him. he was hacked. it didn't happen. >> that was the co-chairman of the commission on presidential debates confirming what chris wallace said to us. the moderator of the presidential debate twitter account was hacked after a

strange message had people questioning the -- the tweet said scaramucci, should i respond to trump? he responded with this, quoting again ignore. he is having a hard enough time. some more bad stuff about to go down. let's bring in joe concha. media reporter at the hill. you've seen the back and forth. if he was hacked he should be fine to moderate this debate or no in your opinion? your thoughts? >> still some questions, trace. let me just reset this for a moment. i spoke with the commission on presidential debates co-chair. he told me what he told brian kilmeade and chris wallace before the top of the hour quote. i was told steve was hacked but i have no direct knowledge, he told me. adding he has no direct evidence. here is the thing. we're hearing from commission on presidential debates. we haven't heard from steve

scully. he could put out a statement, i was hacked and it did not happen. one point that gives me pause for a moment around the hacked excuse. anthony scaramucci is so non-khalent that it was a continuing conversation. he hasn't said it was a hack. too many people silent at this point as far as that's concerned. to answer your original question should he moderate the debate. looks like there won't be a debate. joe biden has signed on to an abc news town hall and president trump there probably do a rally that night. >> we would assume that the presidential debate commission didn't just investigate this tweet. didn't just go in and say it is hacked. if they don't have the evidence it must have been steve scully who called and said i was hacked. maybe he hasn't come out publicly but he must have told the presidential commission he was hacked or somebody close to him informed them it wasn't him.

you would think there is some kind of response from steve scully in this. you're right. we haven't heard from him publicly. what do you believe quickly on this, the thoughts of the commission saying chris wallace breaking the news to us that the commission said listen, nobody wants to be in the room with the president. we're not going to hold this debate in person. >> i think there was time here, trace, to delay this debate out as the trump camp wanted to do to october 22. at that point the president's doctors can tell the commission the president has tested three times negatively for coronavirus and you will be safe. to do this without checking with the campaigns has made this a big mess. final thought on steve scully. the reason why the trump campaign and so much skepticism around the tweet he was an intern for joe biden and worked for teddy kennedy way back when. does that disqualify him? no. it's why we have so much distrust in media. i would have gone with a different moderator given the

resume of this particular moderator who he has worked for in the past. >> trace: in 2016 scully tweeted no trump, no ever. brian kilmeade said he spokes to anthony scaramucci. scaramucci told brian kilmeade he thought the tweet was legit and why he responded. >> which tells you that they have conversed in the past which is fine again. but too many unanswered questions here unfortunately. remember, joe biden will do an abc town hall now, trace. remember the last two town halls we've seen with him. cnn16 questions from audience members. 3 identified as republicans. 13 democrats and the mess that happened on nbc monday night supposedly undecided voters and turns out the undecided voters, two of them were on msnbc were saying they were definitely voting for joe biden and other

attendees have posts that look like the biden campaign picked them themselves. trust in media, what can we trust anymore? the town halls, debates? a lot of americans skeptical right now. >> trace: good of you to join us, thank you. >> sandra: more on that coming up. nancy pelosi unveiling a bill to create a commission to determine if president trump is unfit for office. what could that mean for the president? that's coming up next. it was 1961 when nellie young lost her devoted husband. without him, things were tough.

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headlines this hour. president trump says he is recovered after his covid-19 diagnosis and he is ready to get back out on the campaign trail and he told sean hannity last night he would like to hold a rally in florida tomorrow followed by another in pennsylvania. >> trace: wisconsin coming the coronavirus nation hot spot reporting 3,000 new cases in one day. major hospital system in the state reports a 500% rise in patients in the past few weeks. >> sandra: marijuana sales begin in maine. opponents fought to keep the measure from taking effect. >> trace: you watched it here on "america's newsroom" live. house speaker nancy pelosi announcing plans to introduce a bill aimed at creating a commission that would rule on the president's fitness for office. chad pergram live on capitol hill. how would this work exactly? >> good morning. let me be very clear about something. this is not an effort to take

president trump out of office right now. this is not impeachment 2.0. here is how the 25th amendment works. if the vice president and a majority of the cabinet determine that a presidents is unfit for office he can be sidelined. what this legislation would do is introduce a congressional commission. the vice president, the cabinet and then this special commission. you would have to have two of the three to remove the president of the united states. here is the speaker of the house nancy pelosi. >> this is not about president trump. he will face a judgment of the voters. but he shows the need for us to create a process for future presidents. >> the reason pelosi wants congress to inject itself into the process is a president can fire the cabinet which can vote to remove the president or a vice president may be unwilling to undercut the president. but section 4 of the 25th amendment said congress may by law establish a process to

elevate the vice president if the president is incapacitated. this commission would help make that judgment. john hugh dak, an expert on the 25th amendment at the brooksings institute. >> the majority of the cabinet and the vice president transmits to the congress that the president is incapacitated, the power immediately transfers. the president then can notify congress that he is capable. that he is able to discharge the powers. >> this is something that won't happen right away. this is legislation. they have to get it through the house and senate and get it signed by the president of the united states and some are questioning the wisdom of house speaker nancy pelosi why she would want to talk about this three weeks before an election and some on the republican side of the aisle believe the speaker is trolling the president. back to you. >> trace: chad, thank you. >> sandra: that sets us up for more on that let's bring in james hohmann, national

political correspondent for the "washington post". thank you for joining us. what do you think of this move by nancy pelosi? >> i think chad is right. it's trolling. i don't think we need republicans to tell us that. this isn't going to happen. it won't pass in the senate. and there are some dubious constitutionality elements to it. this is something that jamie raskin a congressman proposed in 2017 that went nowhere. this is the speaker wanting to talk about the 25th amendment and say those words as much as possible. talk about the president's fitness. this isn't something she actually thinks will get done. i do think it's pre-election trolling. >> sandra: does it help her and her party? >> i'm not sure. i think it plays to their base. the left is so angry right now. and joe biden has been distancing himself from the left on things like the green new deal and fracking. trying to appeal to moderates. they have to do things like this to nod to their activists

and volunteers and grassroots people. >> sandra: there has been a lot of drama over the second presidential debate since the commission announced without telling the campaigns first, both campaigns confirmed, that it would go virtual. the president said it would be a waste of time to commit to that and questions what that meant for knowing whether or not joe biden or either candidate would have anybody in the room or anything in front of them. here is the co-chair of the commission responding to the president's criticism. listen. >> what the president said you don't want that kind of debate sitting in front of a computer. you are not. the provisions were they would sit wherever they wanted to. the president could do it from the oval office. there would be people present, press people and with bide tone make sure he wasn't reading off a teleprompter and answering the question. the president wasn't properly briefed by his people as to what we're talking about when we are talking about a virtual debate. >> sandra: is it a mistake on the part of this white house and president not to move

forward with the virtual debate that has been announced? >> sandra, debates over debates are the worst kind of debates. you know, i think the president was talking to maria bartiromo and was frustrated they didn't get a heads-up. i'm told by multiple white house folks this wasn't something that was discussed ahead of time after the announcement came. it was -- i think that the president could still work out some kind of accommodation. the commission wants to have a debate. we still have the third debate scheduled in nashville between the candidates. obviously we saw with sean hannity last night the president is chomping at the bit to get out there. he wants to be on the campaign trail and wants to be debating. i wouldn't be surprised if something still ends up happening. right now there is a lot of posturing. clearly everyone wants to debate. >> sandra: finally to the news that chris wallace brought us at the top of the hour that the commission is saying that scully, the next debate

moderator, c-shan was hacked when his account showed he reached out to anthony scaramucci, a supporter of joe biden. here is the news from chris wallace. >> what i'm told by officials in the commission on presidential debates is that steve scully never sent that tweet. someone was able to get into his account. to use his twitter handle and made up this tweet exchange with anthony scaramucci. and that it was a hacking of scully's twitter account that he never actually sent that tweet. >> sandra: c-span host tweet red should i respond to trump? the tweet was later deleted and now they're saying it was hacked. but it wasn't before anthony scaramucci responded to that tweet as you can make the case as if it was a conversation that they had had before. what are you making of all of this? >> well, i think before any

debate there is always an effort to work the refs a little bit to play the moderators. steve scully has a reputation in d.c. for being a very down the middle, fair. he works for c-span. normally taking callers and he is not kind of a partisan commentator. it doesn't really sound or seem like him based on my interactions with him but we definitely want to hear more about what went on and we're still waiting to hear from steve scully. >> sandra: that seems to be the next part of the story when and if we hear from him directly on all that. appreciate you joining us on that this morning, thank you. >> trace: on that note how far left is joe biden? what critics are saying after the vice presidential debate next. veteran homeowners: newday's helping thousands of veterans save thousands of dollars by refinancing

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>> "newsweek" magazine said kamala harris was the most liberal member of the united states senate in 2019. more liberal than bernie sanders, more liberal than any of the others in the united states senate. >> trace: mike pence saying the vice presidential nominee is more liberal than bernie sanders. a former social justice director for bernie sanders 2016 presidential campaign and host of the straight shot no chaser podcast. critics say joe biden and kamala harris are walking a fine line now because they both come out in support of far left issues that bernie sanders supported but now they are really hesitant to embrace those. the "wall street journal" writes quoting, mr. biden rolled over for many in mr. sanders more radical policy ideas and picked a left running mate. to broadcast that agenda now would risk scaring off middle of the road americans but to

disavow it risks alienateing the progressive base mr. biden needs to turn out. >> the democrat party has always tried to be everything to everybody and the reason why we have the conflict we have now. always say pick a side or step aside. they're trying to balance both wings of the party. the party is also decided that once they get trump out of office, which is the goal of most of those on the left, that this fight will continue on. it is not so much about bernie sanders. they will move forward with or without him. it is more so about the policies that bernie sanders embraced. i was senator harris is not there to push her agenda. the people chose joe biden who is a moderate. she is there to support joe biden's agenda. i don't put a lot on who she is or was and a leftist but if that's the narrative that folks want to put on her to say she is the most liberal it works in favor to get progressives on board. >> trace: progressives believe they have a lot of influence of joe biden. they came out with the people's

charter saying they're in favor of free public healthcare, universal childcare, create millions of green jobs, cancel student debt, $15 minimum wage and they believe once joe biden is in office they can get a lot of this stuff implemented. what do you think? >> i don't know the progressives are believing that. senator bernie sanders may believe that. the progressives that i know, the word on the street i feel they don't feel they have any influence with joe biden or otherwise supporting medicare for all. what the deal is they'll be pushing forward and pushing this agenda with or without the support of biden, harris or even sanders for that matter. so it's not about the influence with joe biden. it's the influence they have created among themselves as a movement that have every intention of moving forward regardless of who is in office. that even goes for president trump is reelected they'll continue to push their message until it's done. >> trace: good of you to join us. thank you. >> thank you. >> sandra: pennsylvania will

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>> sandra: a battle over mail-in ballots heading for the supreme court. pennsylvania republicans said the state court overstepped its authority. democrats making the case the time is needed to insure all mail-in ballots are counted. jake corfman is joining us now. one of the gop lawmakers who voted to bring the case before the supreme court. make your case. >> the federal constitution states clearly the time, place

and manner of elections are determined by the state legislature. our legislature and governor last october determined that all ballots needed to be in other than military overseas ballots needed to be in by 8:00 p.m. on election day to be counted. that's the law in pennsylvania. unfortunately our supreme court which is now an arm of the democratic party decided they'll legislate from the bench. they have a history of doing that lately and extended that by three days. we've said it's not in the statute. they made it up on their own and it should not be allowed and looking for help by the u.s. supreme court to stand with our statute that already exists. >> sandra: here is how the pennsylvania democrats are challenging that notion in a statement saying otherwise many thousands of voters who have relied on the current guidance from state election officials may be disenfranchised through no fault of their own. here is the secretary of state

of pennsylvania saying if they allow late voting to occur, a voter needs to commit a third degree felony lying and bribe a postal employee not to post mark an envelope. >> the statute is very clear. over a year we have had a primary with this statute. people know when the election day is. there are drop boxes, satellite offices. we've taken away the excuses you need to have to vote by mail. there is plenty of opportunity to get -- bring it in election day if you want. plenty of opportunities to get it done in a timely fashion. we want to get it done in a timely fashion to get the votes counted and not see what happened in florida in 2000. the statute is clear. supreme court had no authority to override our statute and

we're looking to the federal supreme court for relief from them legislating from the bench. >> sandra: how do you think it turns out? >> predicting court cases is hard. if they read the statute and their own federal constitution it should go our way. >> sandra: appreciate your time, sir, thank you. >> thank you. >> sandra: trace. >> trace: hurricane delta is hours away from making landfall on the gulf coast. what people still cleaning up from another major hurricane can now expect. even lower. by refinancing, you can save $3000 a year with one call to newday usa. our team is standing by right now to take your call. and from start to finish, you can do it all without ever leaving the house. with our va streamline refi, there's no income verification. no appraisal. and no out of pocket costs. nobody works harder for veterans than my team at newday usa.

before they're stressed into "america's newsroom" larry kudlow confirming the president has approved a revised stimulus package. making that announcement a few moments ago on fox business moving markets in the green. the dow moving to the highs of the session up 35 points. he says that the white house will try to hammer out details with speaker nancy pelosi this afternoon. trace. the three states of emergency around the coast as hurricane delta comes in, expected to make landfall in southeastern louisiana, which hurricane laura just devastated six weeks ago. you might not get hit with a hurricane twice in the same decade, you get twice in the same summer or season is almost unheard of. category 3, 150 miles per hour. >> sandra: gearing up for a busy week next week, the

confirmation hearing for amy coney barrett on monday morning. we will have that all for you here live from "america's newsroom" on fox news channel. great to be with you this week, trace. >> trace: you as well. and the debate, who knows if that will happen next week. but if it does, we will bring about. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin here, president trump may resume in person campaign rallies as soon as this weekend after the white house physician cleared him for public events darting this weekend, the doctor noted in a memo yesterday tomorrow will mark ten days since the president's covid-19 diagnosis. however sources are telling fox news that the president may not hit the campaign trail until monday. here is what he said on sean hannity a show last night. >> i think i'm going to try to do a rally on saturday night if we have enough time to put it together, but we want to do a rally probably in florida on