>> we want to thank you for joining us on this beautiful saturday morning. hope you had a good breakfast while watching us, see you tomorrow bright and early. jedediah: we had the doocy breakfast. heather: could have been worse to tell that to folks in the louisiana gulf coast region with what ended up being a category 2 storm that built the coastline late last night, now down to a tropical storm but what we can tell you is in the end it caused massive flooding of the flooding continues but thousands are without power but it was nothing like laura six weeks ago. that is why some people are grateful for that.

welcome, i am neil cavuto and this is cavuto live. we will look at a lot of storms, real ones in the gulf coast and one in washington that is just getting started, that we know. first to the one you know, delta, the greek of a bit -- alphabet that scared a lot of. a category 4 storm, thought to be a worse than thought, still it is a mess. does steve harrigan know it? >> reporter: this is the scene along much of southwest louisiana, roof damage, minor structural damage but not major damage, we are not seeing destroyed buildings. the landfall happened at 7:00 pm last night in a tiny talk real, category 2, 100 mile-per-hour wind, 7 foot storm surge. the real problem from the flooding, some areas getting 17 inches of rain that created

havoc on the roads, trucks were overturned, highways blocked, cars stuck. a lot of water rescues over the night, people driving into water and not able to get out. 10,000 people were moved overnight, shelters impact social distancing, people were put on buses to find more shelters. this area suffering from another storm just six weeks ago, you had houses with blue tarps on them getting blown off for a second time. neil: what is interesting about that, thousands evacuated six weeks ago, couldn't and still get back to their homes. now you have folks that were similarly evacuated and might get back to their homes. that has to be an aggravation for sure. >> you see people trying to get out of here, they got pounded by laura and older folks, people with pets. i saw a woman with four small children.

they were framed by laura and are trying to get out but it is a hard go, if you're older and have children. >> steve harrigan, it is a good idea, what delta intended now. >> a lot of areas don't ever to the roads covering the marshland on the louisiana coastline making evacuation more difficult. this is the track of the storm. you see the lifecycle after cutting through yucatán, just before making landfall over cooler water weakening a little bit. we had ten landfalling storms this hurricane season across the continent of the us, 5 making landfall as hurricanes. incredibly active season. this is what delta is, across northern mississippi, heading towards areas of eastern arkansas, western tennessee,

western kentucky, to the northeast, there will be one band storm that you see right here, that rotation pull the moisture up, and the yellow, referenced for tornadoes, later to the atlanta area. the little strip here over four inches of rain, localized flooding, monday across part of the northeast, before monday evening getting all the way out of here. two weeks left where we generally see hurricanes or tropical activity and overall things are looking a little,er for the next few weeks. this is a map where we see the bulk of the activity, that is a good slide to be on after this active year.

neil: in louisiana emergency preparedness, what can you tell us about how things look there? >> they don't look good. thank you for having me. it is a real honor. we have a lot of crews, surveying the damage, said to say a lot of the hard work our lineman put in over the last six weeks, very disheartening, had a survivable facility has more damage to it. it is hard to distinguish what laura left behind and what delta did. not a good situation. >> 600,000 or so, some might be without power, we know that happened after laura. i was touching on with a reporter there, getting people

who had to evacuate, their homes are uninhabitable. do you know how things stand, whether they can come back or if it is safe for them to come back? >> you can get into northern portions of the parish, those roadways are clear, the grand lake area, you can get in. some of the roadways in those communities are passable, still standing water on a lot of roadways. we got a lot of rainfall so typically areas that would drain off from surge still sitting there from rainfall. the wind has died down, still dealing with strong winds to get drones in the air, we don't have running water in the parish

right now, a lot being run by generators in southern portions so there were linebreaks, not a good idea, if you want to come in and assess your property quickly, still a good idea right now. >> don't know how you are putting up with it, the folks you look after but this is the third named storm in almost as many months, seems like louisiana again and again in the being ground 0 for these things. i'm sure you are relieved to know only two weeks left in the hurricane season. so far nothing on the map we can see, how do you feel about this whole season? >> everybody, everything is expected right now. we are going to gear up for a

big freeze this winter. i don't know, we are dealing with it the best we know how in the best we can. we hope our residents pay attention, we know it is frustrating but we are trying to get everyone back in and make sure everything is as safe as possible. we really do thank all the crews that have done amazing and hard work over the last eight weeks, when they come back and help us. >> you and your residents a lot tougher so hang in. i bet you do. thank you so much, be well, be safe. a lot of people were concerned about evacuating because they didn't know where to evacuate to, going into shelters and all the rest. a lot of hotels and motels

opened up. that is where the bulk of that. a couple of interesting developments, good news for chris christie who had been in a hospital in morris town for the better part of a week since testing positive, he has been released saying i was relieved for more of moorestown medical center. i think the extra ordinary doctors and nurses who cared for me for the last week so my family and friends, for their prayers. i have more to say about all of those, good news on that front. another potential good news on the covid-19 front, between ourselves and london cutting down the difficulty to go over there because they asked americans to go to london. the wall street journal the two sides shortening the quarantine period or get out altogether.

into the united kingdom, people going over a trying to ease things up a little bit or open things up. all of this as we get a surge of cases in the uk. in the united states and much of europe. hope springs eternal when it comes to travel. trying to ease things up a little bit. the covid-19 phenomenon will be on display at the white house later on, the president says he is fit as a fiddle, feeling stronger and better, he will be doing it from the truman balcony looking over hundreds below and saying all will be right or will it? after this. a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids become a member. get an insurance quote today.

neil: not your typical political event but for the president the first since testing positive for covid-19. we do not know whether he is

still positive or negative but the south lawn event, speaking from the truman balcony overlooking the south lawn, a couple hundred guests, we are not sure of the final number but mark meredith knows these details, he says what is at stake for the president, kicking off at 2:00 pm today. >> the white house has been saying the doctors thought the president could get back to work on saturday and he won't be wasting any time. the white house expecting to invite you guests, they are calling for a peaceful protest, we've not seen the official guest list but this is happening in the 2:00 hour. we were told this would be a short event and the president will be speaking from the balcony. people who do show up will be asked to wear masks and attendees will undergo a covid-19 screening, temperature check to make sure people are

feeling okay. meantime the president is telling fox news more about his personal battle with covid-19. he spoke with doctor mark siegel about the experience that he credits for his quick recovery and why he did not want to stay in the hospital for too long. >> they wanted to keep me for observation and be sure it was good. i was there for 3 and a half days. they wanted to keep me, i wanted to leave after the first day. i felt i was in not bad shape after the first day. i would have been in worse shape had i not taken his medication. >> reporter: next week's debate in miami, and on monday, for the first campaign rally, in the sanford airport, some kind of different precautions for a campaign event that kind. there is a huge crowd.

and if the president may have a different approach but are still expecting to get the president back, trail. that election getting closer every hour. >> masks are required at the south lawn event. what are the rules? >> up high on the balcony, shaking hands, he will be a further distance and we are told this is going to be a shorter event, not like we will see the president go on and on and on. neil: now to the biden camp and what they are planning, a big event in pennsylvania. hillary von with more on that. >> reporter: the second time in the battleground state of pennsylvania, the first time in erie pennsylvania, that a

significant, this is a town hillary clinton lost in 2016 she never visited this area but biden is not making the same mistake. yesterday biden was in another state, nevada according latino voters where he thanks donald trump are not protecting himself from covid-19 and blasted him for getting back on the trail, donald trump in a hurry to hold a rally but not to get covid-19 relief talks from congress. >> what did he do, wasn't even starting. still more negotiations, no more negotiations, not a day, says i am back. one thing for sure, donald trump shows no urgency to deliver hard-working americans. >> reporter: no matter where joe biden goes one question is following him, will the packers up in court with liberals if he wins the white house? in nevada yesterday he dodged

again telling local reporters, will start talking about what we are going to do. will we pack the court and have a filibuster, we will cross that bridge when we get to it. a year and a half ago, and answered the question. >> i would say i am interested in having that conversation about extending the number of people in the supreme court. >> reporter:. pennsylvania doesn't get as much attention as pittsburgh or philadelphia but it is the bellwether of the state, large unions, working populations, the nation's largest medical pool, neil? neil: what does it mean? the president tries to get his way or force his way from unpopular decisions or unfamiliar rulings from the

supreme court, in 1937 from a landslide victory. franklin roosevelt had it with a number of justices so he wanted to force early-retirement on a lot of them and expand from 9 to 15 judges. only one problem, republicans thought it was stupid and the number of democrats thought it was stupid and fdr even though he was one of the most popular presidents in american history, that was then. is he contemplating that, after this. (announcer) now more than ever, it's important to lose weight,

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>> the american people should speak.

you should go out and vote. vote and let your senators know how you feel. >> are you going to pack the court? >> let people know. i'm not going to answer the question. >> if you win this election are you going to pack the supreme court? >> joe and i are very clear, the american people are voting right now and it should be there decision about who will serve on this most important body. >> you will know my opinion on course packing when the election is over. neil: a simple question, are you going to pack the court or not, many are keen on that as republicans try in their view to ram justice barrett's confirmation through the senate and get their way, they will pull and fdr and what he tried to do in 1937 fresh from an

overwhelming victory, landslide victory, a supreme court that shot down a number of his new deal initiatives. fdr proposed expanding from 9-15 justices and certainly not dominated by conservative justices along the way. he failed miserably in that pursuit not only republicans on that, supreme court justices piled on for that but democrats piled on him for that. that was then, this is now. the simple question whether this is going to happen if a biden harris ticket were to win. for a lot of folks, i would appreciate that. it would make a big difference and it is a very big issue. the ticket refuses to say what it would do. is that political malpractice? >> it may be smart politics because it is a terrible idea

but in the effort to please everyone or perhaps pleasing no one, biden and harris refused to answer. we just don't have to answer that. it is a terrible idea. it will fail. anyone puts forward after the election if the election goes the way democrats want. neil: assume the election does go that way and biden wins, shortly after fdr got elected in 36 and went on to be reelected in 1940 we know that but this was one of the first items that failed miserably even with the huge -- it must be a tough thing to do. what is it? >> the reason is the american

people whatever their issues or views might be on abortion or same-sex marriage don't like playing games in politics with one of our most venerable institutions, the supreme court of the united states. they recognize raw power and fdr learned his lesson, got a big fat punch in the nose. will the same thing happen now? yes it will. the radicals in the democratic party will say we've got to pack the court we've got to enlarge a court. this will be recognized within the democratic party as a radical shift. they will look to history and they will say no, fdr made a profound mistake of judgment to be fiddling with and trying to burn down the supreme court's structure, it's institutional culture and it will be solidly rejected. neil: what is the magic of 9 q

it wasn't always. settled on this idea of 9 justices. explain why that is. >> there is a magic in it. it is a small enough group to get everyone around the table to cohesively have a conversation about the cases of the great issues. the justices literally sit around, covid-19 the exception, they literally sit around a long rectangular conference table and speak with one another, don't give speeches, especially, destroy that cohesiveness it essentially turns the supreme court into more of a legislative body than a judicial body, a terrible idea.

neil: an italian dinner table, just ugly. i know you have - one thing caught me in the debate, in 1864 when supreme court vacancy opened up, he wanted to leave it to voters to decide how that would be filled, the reality back then when running for reelection, the senate wasn't even in session had nothing to do with looking at the will of the people. a big gap she opened up. >> we were in the middle of the civil war. the senators were not there, they were not in session. it was a different age when the senate was frequently out of session. what is the use of sending a nomination to a senate that is

in recess that is adjourned. it would have been a raw political act. have great respect for the institutions, to a nonexistent non-sitting body. it is totally different. numerous instances during an election year when the president does submit a nomination. a little earlier no question justice ginsburg after death occurred when it did means the president has and i see it in institutional duty to submit the nomination. then it is up to the senate to provide advice and consent or withhold that consent. neil: on judge amy barrett, confirmation hearing begins next week, aggressive timetable as you know.

mitch mcconnell wants to wrap it up before the election. the timeline is out there. will it? >> it has a very good chance. this is aggressive as you say but a realistic opportunity to do what? to have a confirmation hearing and what do you do? you vote. i think she will make a fine impression. everyone agrees she is a superb nominee. it comes down to politics and culture wars. neil: great catching up with you at the 1864 example. i covered that 1864 event and it was ugly, thank you. go ahead. >> you did a great job back then. i was watching. neil: all downhill since then. the back and forth continues and you heard it from joe biden on this issue. we will explore that a little bit later and it is pretty

telling but in the meantime we are focusing on what nancy pelosi wants to do with the 25 amendments, transfer of power and she says this is not just about this administration. it is about going forward, understanding what happens when a president is incapacitated but what she telegraphs in her wishes regarding who she really wants to take over in a biden administration. we report you might want to run and hide.

>> this legislation applies to future presidents but we are reminded of the necessity of action by the health of the current president. if the president wins the selection it would apply to him. if it doesn't it will apply to the next president of the united states. neil: if it doesn't apply to this president, revisiting the transfer of power clause in the 20 fifth amendment of the united states constitution, then why say that unless you have an issue with the guy who could be the next president who turned 78 next month and maybe you are telegraphing something with that? hard to say. what we do know is transfer of power the president look like he might be incapacitated for a while, can transfer power to the

vice president, something goes wrong with the vice president, the speaker of the house is president. what to make of that? ted cruz wasn't buying any of it when i caught up with him. >> it is just a political stunt on her part. since the day the democrats got the majority in the house there only priority has been attacking the president, impeaching the president, trying to destroy the president and this is just a political stunt to do that. neil: hard to say, emily larson with us, let me begin with you. a lot of eyebrows are raised on this. why would she even get into the transfer of power? there's always been confusion about the 25 amendment and how it is utilized when the president might be momentarily and testifies during surgery or anything like that but she upped it to a level that didn't seem necessary. of your thoughts.

can you hear me? i want to -- >> it is a valid question in the weeks leading up to an election when it seems there is so much chaos in general around the country with the government, the security of their lives in general but the outstanding question becomes it is very hard to see something getting done in washington today. when the speaker puts forward a potential path forward to make sure we are protecting the transition of power be it in a moment when we had the vice president and the president saying they wouldn't necessarily peacefully transition should biden win the presidency and in moments we see a massive pandemic breaking out in the white house.

neil: this wasn't about that. this wasn't about that, if the president were to become incapacitated or others around him were incapacitated to pave the way for the vice president -- careful, careful, that is what prompted the republicans to say this is about joe biden getting too old and hoping kamala harris becomes president. that was a motive. >> now. it is genuinely the exercise of looking at how we are handling the power of the presidency in this country weather is a biden presidency or trump presidency, there have been a lot of questions about physical health, mental health in general around the people who are ultimately sitting in the most important seat in this country. neil: let me give this to you, she said this doesn't address the president now but she is

using it as a reminder that we have to have a better idea of transfer of power if something like this were to happen, testing positive for covid-19, how was that handled if he is in rough shape, how will we -- that would not, that was not what she was getting into. she was getting into future presidents. what did you think of it? >> the fact she brought this up was a political move to highlight donald trump having to go to the hospital and their being uncertainty about his coronavirus diagnosis but it is also a political move that there been people in the democratic base talking about 25 amendment issue for years even before we had his healthcare with the president. when you look at the candidates and candidates leading in the polls, whether or not, it brings

up the fact that it will be the oldest president to serve in office and a lot of concern about what will happen, people who question the republican side or the capacity -- age is a concerning factor that came up in the democratic primary before he became the official nominee, something voters are thinking about, whether nancy pelosi was thinking about that it might backfire because it does bring up joe biden. neil: if you think about it, the time this has been an issue or concern for the american people, under democratic administration

this, debilitating stroke that virtually left him incapacitated the last year in office, in retrospect john kennedy was battling addison's disease and other ailments before his tragic assassination. she might want to be careful what she wishes for, the sense that the commander-in-chief might be holding back information, no indication this president has, could it backfire on democrats? >> a representation of the authenticity of raising this discussion, we have to talk about how to protect the presidency, whether or not it is a democratic or republican president and over the last 18 months, over the past four years, really weren't working very well. what happened in the past week and a half is a lot of questions

have been raised how we are making sure the trickle-down effect from that oval office is protected. i think her raising is going into a potential biden presidency or a second term for donald trump i actually think it is a representation of the fact we need to have these questions, the 25 amendment hasn't been discussed -- bill: the only thing i am curious, would she do the same if it were democratic president dealing with the same ailments? >> that is from the situation that when you are thinking about the idea that biden is the next president, pelosi is worried about this issue, she wants to bring it up in the case of potential presidency, now would be the time to do it before he

is elected because it looks bad to bring this after a president from your own party is elected. neil: that is a timely issue. for the first time since he was diagnosed the president will be having a public event at the white house on the truman balcony. what we don't know is if he is a danger to himself or how he was assessed for covid-19. for him to campaign in florida on monday. the latest on that. we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. i'm good at my condo. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.

>> it was just you were tired, just from the standpoint that you didn't have the same energy level. my life is based on energy and you didn't have a, could have led to bad things from that point but i got lucky with a certain medicine.

i took a certain medicine that was very miraculous to me. >> this is that cocktail, there were a host of others here. and didn't democrat -- he is feeling good enough to have this white house event. the truman balcony on the south lawn. direct human contact will be spread out. he hopes to resume physical travel. and then for a campaign event, on the school of medicine, and

he is. and is -- do you recommend either of these events. >> there are real issues, personal health and what is the exposure to those around him. when he's on the balcony. and and on the balcony, you don't know if someone was doing his makeup before that in close proximity that they are worried about. and on the lawn.

if everyone knows someone, so they protect themselves and their neighbors. and sending the wrong message, in terms of traveling next week. started, look at the cdc recommendation where you can stop isolating, infecting other people who are contagious. for his own health of he was my patient i would have to assess how they are feeling so we know for many people with covid-19 take several weeks to get on full functioning. >> i apologize, i want to confirm a couple hundred or couple thousand but there is a concern the white house itself has become a superspreader.

others talked about it since the amy coney barrett event a couple weeks back when so many went there, only a couple hundred or so but only a dozen tested positive for the virus. i wonder does that make the white house the winner, how much they keep on top of a dangerous place? what do you think? >> it is a dangerous place and the number, 36 tested positive in their contacts, what we don't know about yet, they are attending the event, they proved themselves a super strain environment but does not make them at this point to hold large events at the white house. neil: thank you for your straight medical view on this, good doctor that you are.

we will see what happens in the latest on what is happening with stimulus. it doesn't mean it is a done deal, the latest on that after this.

>> sprinting ad for the dow, one of the best market weeks we've seen since early august. and they are tweeting nowhere. then he revisited them saying to go big, whatever you want to call that or whatever. both sides are talking right now and they are closer than they have ever been not the deal can

be done or mitch mcconnell says before the election but from markets hope springs eternal. richardson with optimism, how -- what are you hearing? >> the last couple minutes we got a little punishment the moon. nancy pelosi wrote a letter that the offer the administration had given democrats yesterday, represent one step forward and 2 steps back. it gives the administrative too much authority how to spend that money and she writes, quote, at this point we have disagreements on many priorities, democrats -- on several provisions, negotiations on the overall funding continues. surgery secretary steve mnuchin offered nancy pelosi a coronavirus believe package, $1.2 trillion yesterday. house democrats are at $2.2 trillion, they passed the most recent bill, these negotiations continue throughout the weekend.

>> i'm not going to draw any red lines. i will say the offer we presented was on the basis of estimates of what we anticipated shortfalls would be and what would be needed to further help businesses and employees maintain their matches to help people stay connected to their jobs and provide the support households need as we get through this continued hard time. >> the white house with targeted assistance including checks to eligible americans, unemployment insurance and help for businesses and assistance for the airlines. another problem republicans don't want to go higher than that number. back to you. neil: a commentary on the times that we are only a couple hundred million dollars -- thank you, my friend. we are monitoring that and where talks go. and who is participating and keep you posted.

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morning is saying that today is not the day for residents to start returning to lake charles, saying that the whole city is without power. and let's let the first responders and the city employees do their jobs, and start picking up the pieces first. i can tell you that dozens of roadways, not just here in lake charles, but around the whole region are closed at this hour because there's either water, debris, or even vehicles turned on their sides blocking those roads. more than 580,000 people are without power across the entire state of louisiana. another 72,000 in mississippi, and 105,000 in texas. hurricane delta did make landfall, about 40 miles south of us, in creole, louisiana, around 6 p.m. central spot last night. it dumped a foot of rain in some spots and wind gusts were

clocked at nearly 100 miles per hour. further inland, jennings, lake arthur and lafayette were slammed with heavy rains and winds, lasting for hours. look at the video out of jennings. right now, fortunately, there are no injuries or fatalities that are being reported with this storm. there have been a handful of high water rescues that have been carried out, but, neil, i've got to say, as you drive around lake charles here, it's hard to tell the old damage from the new damage. this bridal shop was ripped apart by hurricane laura, that hit six weeks ago. so, when you drive around and you see so much destruction, it's hard to sort of of separate what laura damaged and what is delta damage. back to you. >> amazing, casey, thank you, very, very much. and with us now from lake charles, louisiana.

mayor, what have you heard? what have you had a chance to get a grasp of? >> well, i had a chance to drive around the city a little bit. even though it was a category 2 storm, this was a big hit for us. especially with what we've just went through. we had a category 4 storm. the strongest storm to hit louisiana in 150 years. the fifth strongest hurricane on record to hit the united states of america. when you put that together six weeks ago is what we just had, it's like a category 6. you know? add a 4 to a 2 and that's what happened to us over the last six weeks. with delta, we actually have more flooding than we have with laura, so it's tough right now. we're reeling. >> you know, you were reminding me six weeks ago laura, you're trying to recover from that. that was devastating. and then you have this.

the only good news, to seems to me, mayor, we have two weeks left of the hurricane season for now. for now there's nothing new on the horizon, but your people have to be battle scarred? >> we are. we're weary and that's to be expected. even with delta with what we went through with laura. let me tell you we're not picking up the pieces. we're not sitting on our hands. our fire department department are doing what they do. being the angels amongst us that we need them to be right now, so, we're not sitting on our hands. and so we're going to need help to get through this, we're going to help each other locally but we're going to need american help and the federal government's help. this has been a great blow to a great american city. neil: it certainly has. on this point we have a guest who is there to provide help. we'll talk to him in a minute. mayor, hang in there and be well and certainly my best to

your folks who had to put up with so much. lake charles mayor, nic hunter. and the navy, the united front. volunteers tried to help out whenever and wherever they can, and they've been on call a lot of times this year in a record setting hurricane year. dr. ralph, the navy founder president. these people are hurt. how do you make and prioritize what they need? >> unfortunately, my home took a little hit this morning, too, so we had to secure it first, but right now we're in lake charles and we've been in lake charles since hurricane laura. we mobilize from there. we pulled back out towards baton rouge and we're trying to prioritize the best we can. unfortunately, a lot of the people that were hit a few weeks ago with laura were hit

again. >> what do you do and how do you handle that? i mean, i know there were thousands of people who evacuated after laura six weeks ago. many of them can't come back, haven't been able to come back. i'm sure there are many more with this storm who had to do the same thing. so it's sort of piling up. how do you address that? >> well, that's a good question and unfortunately, we have the coronavirus and covid situation going on. neil: right. >> and the volunteers and stuff. it's like the perfect storm times four, we're dealing with hurricane sally as well. and the good thing is, we've got such a good network of people we've helped through the years and this morning there are people we helped with hurricane sally here a few weeks ago are here in baton rouge doing tree removal. it's like people helping people. >> that's good to here. with so many out of town, i guess a little more than

600,000. i heard obviously, less, or fury should say than with laura six weeks ago. but that has got to complicate what you've got to do, right? >> oh, yeah, it's making it real complicated. this with this awareness, this is more of a wind event we were prepared for. and this tree down and into some rural areas, and you've got to go miles before you get to the power lines that are down. this is going to be a many, many month ordeal on top of complications what happened a month ago. we need the country and everybody to come together right now and this is going to take the whole country to get its act together here. >> all right. well, hang in there. you're doing the lord's work and helping people who need help. you're their final recourse, so hang in there yourself. but thank you very, very much. >> thank you all. >> all right. and i mean, i do want to put this incredible hurricane, you know, storm, overkill, if you

will, in some perspective. this year alone, we've had 16 separate weather disasters across the nation. each one, each one has caused at least a billion dollars in damage, but that doesn't paint the whole picture. after laura, they calculated and that was six weeks ago. $14 billion in damage and 26 people were killed and so far we weren't hearing from casualties in this storm and let's hope it stays that way. if you were to add up the storms and totals, we are right now over 100 billion dollars. we have not seen so much, so fast, so expensive, so soon than we have this past year. and the year is not over. all right, in the meantime, here. that's the political storms brewing and the president upset what's going on with all of these mail-in ballots, indications in ohio that some 50,000 ohioans received the wrong ones.

he's tweeting up a storm and the governor is here to respond.

>> all right. the great mail-in ballot conundrum. more than 400,000 have been filed and it was only 75,000 four years ago. so overwhelming, we're getting news out of ohio, the president retweeted nearly 50,000 voters received the wrong ballots in ohio. again, raising questions as to how safe the process is, how reliable it is. governor mike dewine of ohio with us right now. governor, good to have you. >> good to be back, thank you. >> good morning to you. hope you're doing well. on this 50,000 ballot thing, what happened? do you know? >> now, this is franklin

county. i think they said they had a vendor who made a mistake and to make sure the way at least i understand it, you had some people in a part of franklin county that got the wrong local names and in state legislative races. that would not have-- they obviously, of course, had the president on there and they had joe biden on there. it wouldn't have impacted the, you know, the presidential, but somebody caught it right away. a former state legislator actually caught it and they're correcting it. look, mistakes can happen. we doesn't like it, no one likes to see it, but we've got a red-hot race in ohio. i think the president's going to win in ohio, but ohio is, as you know, a swing state. and it's going to go right down to the wire. it's-- you know, we have very expansive voting in ohio. people can go in and vote at the board of elections and any

of the 88 counties where they live. they can go into that local board of elections, up, you know, four weeks going into the election. and they can do, you know, the absentee ballot or certainly can wait until election day, which is what fran and i usually do, and go in. we have 13 hours to vote. >> you know, we talk about how mail-in ballots have become so overwhelmingly popular right now, and then we're at four and a half million now, and they might be more than that now, governor, but it's running at a pace that thwarts the 75,000 or so that we had four years ago at this time. the president's argument has been that that's overwhelming and ripe for abuse. i know you're trying to assure folks that in ohio that won't be the case. this was an issue maybe in franklin county and hopefully isolated to that. it's been corrected, but do you blame him for being concerned? a lot of people are getting increasingly concerned that this kind of stuff just keeps hang. >> yeah, i think if anybody is

concerned, they can go in and vote. they can go in and vote any day of the week, basically. monday through friday, i believe, initially and then later on, it goes into the weekend. so you can go to your board of elections monday and you can go vote if you want to do that and we saw tuesday is the first day that you could vote. we saw lines up outside of boards of elections, so people have the option to do that. if they don't want to deal with people at all. they can do it absentee or they can wait, you know, and do it on election day. which is where everyone used to do it. in ohio, it looks like we're-- we've doubled the number of these absentee ballots than what we had four years ago at this time. that's what the secretary of state's office says. >> you know, governor, you had a scare a while back where you had briefly tested positive for the coronavirus. turns out that it may have been

a false positive, and i hope that's the case and you're healthy and well. >> it is. but-- i'm very happy to hear that, governor. you know the dust-up over the president's concern, and worried that a little more than a week after being in the hospital at walter reed and close to two weeks since his diagnosis, now is not the time to be having campaign events and even properly distanced for the balcony at the white house. monday in florida and resuming his activities. what do you think of all that? >> well, you know, i think campaign needs to continue. the president needs to be able to get his message out to the people of the country, and the people of the key states. my position has not changed. you know. large gatherings are not safe when people don't social distance and when they don't wear masks. so, you know, we would say the

same thing about any political campaign. we said the same thing about demonstrators earlier on. we've just asked people, you know, wear masks, keep the social distance. i believe, neil, that we can really do two things at once, that we can live our lives at the same time be cautious and prudent about what we do in regard to try to keep the spread down. and so, you know, my ideas or my position has not changed. it's based on the science. keep distance, but we can't just, you know, cower in our bedrooms and not go out. we've opened -- we have school open in ohio. and people are making their decisions whether the school is remote or open five days a wake and made by the local school districts. our restaurants are open, our bars and they have some limitations on the hours, but

everything else is open. we encourage people to go about your lives and encourage them to be careful and that would be the same thing with the political rally. >> well put. governor, good seeing you, good health. bus of luck to you. governor dewine, the beautiful state of ohio, a battle ground to put it mildly, joe biden and donald trump are separated by a tick or two there. it still remains a battle ground. in the meantime here, you're back and forth between the candidates comes something like this and we've touched on it before in this broadcast. how do you keep the economy churning or churning stronger? the view of the trump administration has been the tax cuts, cut the regulations and that's stimulus and the proof is in the pudding and the comebacks in the markets and the economy and getting half the jobs lost to the pandemic. that's working. the democratic view is forget the tax cuts, how about focusing on a lot of spending, a lot of stimulus. there's an argument among the economists which wins out.

wall street sensing the possibility, the possibility of joe biden winning is betting that his stimulus and spending, while not as endearing as tax cuts will do the trick and keep the economy humming. who is right? after this.

>> this is supposed to be a debate based on fact and truth and the truth and the fact is, joe biden has been clear, he will not raise taxes on anyone who would make $40,000 or-- >> i'm speaking. >> the importance is, you said the truth. joe biden said twice in the debate last week he's going to repeal the trump tax cuts. that's tax cuts that gave the average working families, $2,000 and a tax break every

single year, do the math. >> senator, that's not true-- >> is he only going to repeal part of the tax cut. >> if you don't mind letting me finish we can have a conversation, okay? >> please. neil: all right. a lot of the confusion over that was the say you're going to repeal the tax cuts, and presumably repealing all the tax cuts and she on the ticket said, joe biden, receiving $4,000 or more having some of their cuts back and 39.6%, but left out in that argument is that corporate taxes are going up affecting all corporations from 21% to 28%. depends on your perspective. the bigger debate on this is whether the stimulus will keep coming to the economy. there are two views on that. two views, the tax cuts and regulation cuts, which are paramount in the early days of the trump administration and did see them to the lowest

we've seen in a century. and now, obviously, and dramatically affected by the pandemic. or as the market seems to be behaving right now and improving right now even in the face of polls that show joe biden leading that it's the spending that will come with that that will boost the economy as much as tax cuts did. it's really in the eyes of the beholder. emily joins us, we've got jenna arnold, the democratic strategist and a guy, accountant by training and wall street watcher, dan. i want to tap the accountant part of your fine brain and that is that tax cuts or spending. which win out as stimulative to the economy? >> i think the proof is in the pudding, neil. because what we saw of the impact of the trump tax cuts proved it. we saw a booming economy and regard low unemployment. so i don't really see how you

argue the success of that. as far as the reversal of the trump tax cuts, the new york times had an article recently that talked about 65% of americans did receive a tax cut. so, if the biden plan is going to reverse that, that is automatically going to increase taxes across the board. at least for those people. so it's not accurate so far to say that only people making above 400,000 are going to feel a tax crutch. it could be that they're going to drop the trump tax cuts and replace it with something else, but we don't know exactly what that looks like right now, neil. >> you know, jenna, doing a little fact checking on both the vice-president and kamala harris, he was right to say that the average family with

receive a break and she's right to say it's just in sheer numbers, forget about the percentages, i'm wondering in a biden administration if would come to pass and taxes go up, in environment, the harris ticket said is awful. is it a good idea to raise taxes in an environment like that if it's as bad as that ticket is saying it is. the last thing you want to know is raise taxes on anyone, including dan. what do you think? >> well, to dan's point, as he mentioned, that 65% of americans received a tax cut. i'm curious to know what his thoughts are on the other 35% of americans, the teachers, the nurses the firefighters, the front line workers that have kept a lot of americans alive the next eight, nine months. when you talk about an economy, it's thriving for the rich. 100 american billionaires made another 30 billion dollars in

the past eight months. if you feel like that's supporting the base and helping americans grow, then you and i have very different, very different interpretations what a thriving economy is. >> well, emily, we can go pre-pandemic. that's the elephant in the room and the regulations, tax cuts had brought us down to record low unemployment figures, not only national will you, but key demographics, latinos, women-- i could do that again and see that again with the tax cuts in place, we've now erased half of the 22 billion jobs lost. so the trend is our friend. which argument do you think is winning out. i know the polls and the president doesn't like them. i know in battle ground states, that's his argument there as well. there, too, it's problematic. if it's so really, why aren't

more voters responding that way? >> well, i think because the issue of the economy is something that trump would love to have be the center of discussion of the campaign. but that's not what the focus is. the focus is the coronavirus pandemic, it's president trump going to the hospital. it's the supreme court vacancy and nomination and all the other factors have really eclipsed the one bright spot of the trump presidency that he would love to have the focus be on. and i think the challenge, also, for the joe biden and kamala harris is that she said in that debate in that clip you played, she said that they would' eliminate the entire trump tax cut. if you look at the plan it's a little more complicated. but she and joe biden said they're going to eliminate the tax cut. that gives fuel to republicans to bring up all of the benefits

that that brought to everybody else. so that's a misstep on their part as the trump administration tries to make this all back around the economy. >> so, jenna, on that end before i go back to dan. that argument, and to sort of rescind the tax cuts and all of that, they are, that is the biden plan does call for raising corporate taxes 21 to 28% not all the way back up to 35%. they might be caught up in that, and if companies see their bottom line infringed, they could go, right? >> sure, if we're talking about, you know, the amount of americans, 30 million americans who are now unemployed. the one in five businesses, shut their doors in the past months, everybody is looking how we can stabilize our footing. i think, you know-- >> but raising taxes on them is not going to help their footing. they're going to lose their footing. >> for corporations and the 1%,

yeah, totally fine for them to take a hit. my nurses and my kids-- >> so you raise taxes and they're screwed, right? >> not necessarily. you're talking about 7%. i mean, biden and harris are proposing no one is going to pay more than 7% on child care. i'll take that deal. i have two young kids. i mean, you see a tremendous amount of proposals coming out of that campaign that are suggesting they're focusing on working families and how they can support and stabilize an economy that has been-- has never been so insecure before. and is very much looking at a tax code that allows the president to pay $750 to a country and that country also pay $75 million back to them. the tax code isn't working. every time we put taxes into the middle of a conversation. neil: well, you deflect add little. i understand where you're coming from. you deflected. and dan-- my producers are furious with

me, they're young and could be my kids. if they're hit, and the democratic ticket we're going to hell in a hand basket and the economy sucks wind, you would assume raising taxes on everyone, corporations included would be a bad idea. is it your thinking that companies could absorb a 7% hike in taxes from 21 to 28% and not impact their workers? >> there is no way, neil. there's no way that these corporations are going to absorb that hit. that hit is going to be passed on to employees and the consumer because they are not going to destabilize their bottom line. and on top of it, neil. wealth is mobile like we see wealth moving between the states. we're also going to see corporations moving for greener pastures which we have in the past and to have literally the highest corporate income tax

rate in the industrial world is not going to help this economy. the way to help the economy is to get people back to work, raising taxes is not the way to do that. >> all right, we'll see-- there are two competing thoughts, two competing thoughts on that and more spending will do it, the tax situation is less of an issue. it's a jump ball and it will be decided, i guess, on november 3rd. stay with us. we made usaa insurance for this season. and the veterans that never quit on their team. when being a fan gets tough, and stretching your budget gets even tougher... ...our agents put in the time and legwork for you, ...so saving on auto insurance is easy. because saving a little extra goes a long way. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for.

>> all right. well, stimulus might by touch and go. the amy coney barrett confirmation hearings are still on and the republicans are hopeful they can get this happened up and her approved in the senate with the election three weeks away. senator, are you confident, is that doable? >> yeah, it's doable, neil. and by the way, you can shorten my segment. that last segment was important for the american people to hear the talk about same old baloney. if we take money out of the free market sector, the most talented in america and turn it over to the government, everything is going to be fine. right, what could go wrong there. but let's talk about the supreme court. >> do you think it's going to be a problem though? do you think with the covid-19 cases and some senators, colleagues of yours testing positive. can they get it done?

and could this veer into virtual hearings? what are you hearing? >> we've held virtual hearings all summer, so, no reason this couldn't be partially-- >> and look, they're throwing every roadblock there is. chuck schumer says he wants to see everybody tested before they come in the capitol building. they want to knock off votes. we're going to put reasonable efforts and one step in front of the others, mitch mcconnell is very good at this and i have every confidence we'll get this done. i think they forget when the election is over, there's still a couple of months left, whatever happens in the election. if they throw the president out and every senator that's up out, there's still going to be votes after the election. that doesn't stop things going on after the election. they can continue to spar at this. like i said, this is an age-old process. we know that when it comes to a

vacancy in an election year, that's happened 29 times before. and my friends on the other side there, beating their breast in indignation and talking about how the new grounds we're plowing here. this isn't new ground at all. this has happened over and over again. >> you mentioned the possibility, they could still vote after the election, it would be a very different situation if the democrats won. let's say they won big. would it be the same guarantee that a number of lame duck senators might be voting the same way? are you confident that it would-- that it would still be a sure thing that judge barrett becomes a supreme court justice? >> it's not sure until it's gone. i doubt that whether a senator is elected or reelected or not is going to change their vote on this subject. people forget that when we were elected we raised our right hand and swore to uphold the

constitution of the united states and faithful uphold the duties of our office. and they said we would faithfully discharge the duties of our office. just like when president obama nominated merrick garland. the senate can consent or withhold their consent. we withheld our consent and that's the way of history. if you have a white house and senate in the same party, the person generally gets confirmed. if you have a white house and a senate, split parties, it generally doesn't happen. look, this is not something that's brand new, it's not rocket science, these things have been done for over-- for 244 years we've been around. neil: all right. we'll see what happens. senat senator, thanks for this.

a number of senators are involved in this process who had tested positive for the virus, do intend to eventually make the hearings, at least those who sit on the judiciary committee, including thom tillis: he may not make the first day, but he'll be there for the crucial vote and the full senate vote, but the process is a little weird. especially now since the c.d.c. is talking about how this disease, that this virus has spread to young people and that alone is a cause for concern. charles watson with more on that from atlanta. charles. >> hey, good morning, neil. the c.d.c. says that young adults between the ages of 18 and 24 represent the earliest increase in positive coronavirus tests before the four cases begin to surge among older adults and a new study

friday. researchers looked at more than 760 hot spots and counties across the country between june and july. what they found was an increase in coronavirus cases among adults, 24 years or older, spiked 31 days prior to a county being identified as a hot spot and before cases began rising in older, more vulnerable adult populations. >> that could be a woman who has breast cancer on cream therapy or a child. and when that person gets sick, they have a good chance of dying. even though you think that it's okay if i get infected, the october is, you're propagating the outbreak. >> and the c.d.c. says slowing transmission among young adults is an urgent public health crisis and the best way to address it is to slow the spread of the virus overall. critics of president trump say,

this goes against the president's repeated assertions that young people should just live their lives and neil, and neil, a study released by the c.d.c. felt peer pressure not to wear masks. neil: you see that play out in college campuses across the country. charles in atlanta, georgia. microsoft, eventually let's get everybody back to work. and did microsoft just say a number of people there won't have that work there forever. they're not being laid off. they're continuing with remote, with remote work after this.

>> when do we all get back to work? microsoft has a number of their workers, and if the staying at home thing is working for, how about forever?

how about permanently? the implications of that could be huge and we might never return to the same type of work environment that we had. this is a whole new world. and we've got rebecca on this. if microsoft goes through with that and essentially saying all workers for those of you-- for whom it's working out and we hope it's working out, we could make this permanent. what do you think? >> i mean, this is a big problem, neil with getting all of these people working at home. if you think of the macroeconomic levels fast. it could be the end of blue states, it could be the end of urban areas. if you really multiply this out to what the ultimate resolution is, if you can work from anywhere, why would you ever live in a state with higher taxes, or higher city taxes than other locations unless you like city life. people could live in the cities because they like the life

rather than because they need to because their office is around the corner. neil: a lot of them are restaurant snobs like gasperino to get him out of his compound. charlie, what do you make of that? >> you know, she's right. i mean, listen, here is what we know. i know from the industry that i cover mostly, which is wall street, is that all the firms are concedinconceding, even as slowly bring people back to the office and morgan stanley is bringing back to the office. they're conceding that people do jobs at home very ably, legal, hr, you know, the traders, bond and stock traders need be to in the office near the technology and office. and others can save on things including office space.

there's the impact on big cities like new york. i'm a new yorker and i live there. i will say there's more than just restaurants in new york and that's why you live there. there's a whole community. there's broadway. i mean, it's an amazing place and you put up with higher taxes-- >> broadway is not going to happen at least until mid next year and the crime and everything, a lot of people hear this, right? >> there is a tipping point at some-- a point where high taxes and crime overweighs going to a broadway show and we may be there right now. >> you know, rebecca, play this out though. let's say more and more companies do this and obviously it puts a pinch on corporate states and you don't need it nearly as much. it changes the city. do you think it's a permanent change that goes on? >> no doubt in my mind. the city go about this organically because it's the hub and if that's the situation, the company making money is the company that figures out what can we do with

these empty office spaces around america, and they'll become isolated and unfortunately blighted, which i don't want to see. we've seen it before, when the jobs leave, when the jobs go-- look at detroit. when the jobs go what happens to the city? that's what you're talking about. the companies that make money are the companies that figure out a viable use of the buildings. if that's the path and we go to cyber, what's to say i have to live in the ideas. why not live somewhere cheaper and this is a global problem, connect to disconnect again. that's what we're talking about. >> well, charlie is exploring italy. and charlie, holograms, one way or the other and that will settle that. rebecca, charlie, thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: too soon to see if it will come to pass and microsoft teed it off. north korea's kim jong-un said something fascinating overnight not just talking in the

military parade and all that. they have not had one case, not one, not one coronavirus case. they'd be the only nation in the world like that after this. beautiful. but support the leg! when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. but now i practice a different philosophy. quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. and now i'm back on top... with koala kai. hey! more mercy. save over 30 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. the easy way to a happier business.

>> all right. a couple of weird developments out of north korea. out of kim jong-un, an interesting comment from the supreme leader that there has not been one covid-19 case in north korea. it might have affected virtually every country on earth, including nearby china and russia and all that, but nothing, nothing in north korea. the lieutenant general, genuine

american hero and hates when i say that, but he is. but general, firstoff on the military parade and timing in the middle of this craziness. what do you make of that? >> well, neil, they have these parades periodically. but covid-19 has not affected the military readiness. they've been impacted by the coronavirus and ills at home. kim jong-un needs this parade at home and to signal strength abroad. >> we were getting reports when the virus first hit china that it spread to a lot of places, south korea as well and certainly north korea. i just find it unfathomable to think it didn't get many cases let alone any cases.

what would be the benefit of saying something preposterous? >> for their home, trying to create a reality that doesn't exist. if there were no cases how come kim jong-un has basically isolated north korea from the rest of the world since the first of-- i should say the month of january? and as a result of that, he suffered over a 70% reduction of imports from china. so there's a reason why he's shut down north korea and part of it is to cover up the economic as well as some of the medical and hunger woes that are being perpetrated by the kim jong-un regime. neil: do you think there's any chance for talks to continue, either with this administration or if a new administration comes in? >> yeah, actually i do, neil.

i would tell you that one of the interesting things that kim mexed was he wished south korea a fast recovery from covid. neil: i did see that. >> he said that during his speech. he also expressed hopes that the two countries would, quote, hold hands again. that's pretty unusual given the tensions in june with south korea. the fact of the matter is, look, this guy is being held to the complaints of constraints that he's being forced to undertake by the sanctions from the united states and the rest of the world. he's in a position he's going to have to negotiate. >> all right, we'll see what happens. general david deptula. many of you may have been too young to remember a character on snl. we haven't had one, not one

case. who am i to judge? i'll go with the general on this one. a lot more fox news coming up and don't forget the amy barrett hearings, republicans are optimistic she's on her way to making it to the supreme court.

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