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continues. i will see you ♪ >> tucker: there's a trump rally tonight going on right now in fact in georgia, we just saw a second of it read the president didn't look like a man who just walked out of walter reed recovering from covid at all -- we'll bring you any developments in any news it comes out of that rally. we got several more emails that expose hunter biden's connection to the chinese communist party, we have confirmation of that laptop is real, conclusive. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," if you flip the channel during our show last night you may have seen the
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president and his challenger making their respective cases to the voters. trump and biden weren't debating each other, they want on the same stage, they weren't even on the same network -- that would've been too risky. there's a massive public health crisis on the way, so to avoid what doomsday hobbyists on twitter like to call a super-spreader event, trump and biden held separate indoor town halls surrounded by people. they talked to partisan moderators instead of each other. that might seem like a lost of the country three weeks before a presidential election, but unfortunately the science onun this question is clear -- nothing could be more dangerous to america than a televise in person debate between joe biden and donald trump. the so-called debate commission made certain the debate couldn't happen.t who benefited from that decision? not voters, america has held regularly scheduled presidential debates for decades and we have them for a reason. the more information voters can get directly from the candidates
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rather than the media, theia better our democracy functions. not that anyone is interested in democracy anymore, joe biden doesn't care other way. he just didn't want to talk about burisma, that's a scandal that vividly illustrates how as vice president, biden subverted this country's foreign policy in to enrich his own family. the good news for biden last night was that he didn't have to talk about it. no one from abc news asked him, not one word about that scandal in the entire 90 minutes. as we've been telling you this week, "the new york post" and other news outlets including this show have published emails taken from hunter biden's personal laptop, they show that hunter biden was paid by foreign actors to change american foreign policy using access to his father, then the vice president. this is a big story, it is also a real story. this afternoon, we received nonpublic information that proves conclusively this was indeed hunter biden's laptop,
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period. there are materials on the hard drive of that computer that no one but hunter biden could have known about or replicated. this is not a russian hoax, we are saying this definitively, we are speculating. the laptop in question is real, it belonged to hunter biden. there is no excuse for not asking about it, none. but they didn't ask about it. it was a cover-up in real time. no matter what happens in the election next month, the american media will never be the same after this, it cannot continue this way, it is too dishonest. nevertheless, we did learn a few things last night anyway, it's hard not to learn after you've heard joe biden speak for an hour and a half. one activist told joe biden she has an 8-year-old daughter, she asked joe biden what he thought about that? here's how you responded to. >> the idea that an 8-year-old child or a 10-year-old child
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decided i want to be transgender, that's what i think i would like to be, it would make my life a lot easier -- there should be zero discrimination and what's happening is, too many transgender women of color are being murdered. i think it's up to now 17, don't hold me to that number. >> tucker: if an 8-year-old biological boy decides one day that he's really a girl, that's final and you have to be a bigot to pause and say wait a minute, you're eight years old, you're a small child, maybe think about this for a minute -- that's what a normal person who has kids would say, people with kids know that children grow and change, they change their minds about a lot of things including themselves. that's the reality of it. if you're a crazed ideologue, you don't care about reality, so you would tell the rest of us that an 8-year-old was entitled the hormone therapy and
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permanent life altering surgery if he or she demands it. that's what biden is telling us, it doesn't matter how fashionable talk like this is, and it is fashionable, it's crazy and destructive and it's having a profound effect, no one wants to say it but it's true. we know between 2016 and 2017 the number of gender surgeries for biological females in this country dribbled in one year. we alsoo know that many people who get to those surgeries regret them later, deeply regret them. if we have a lot more data on that but universities are actively punishing researchersiv who follow that line of inquiry -- so much for science. in the end, mania like this will end -- w the left is at war with nature. inevitably they will lose that war because nature always prevails. dr thehe meantime, so much dama, so many children being hurt irreparably -- biden doesn't care, it's the new thing so he's for that, whatever it h takes. biden is now busy rewriting his
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entire life story to pretend he has been woke for 60 years. last night he told us he became a gay rights supporter in the kennedy administration, sometime around 1962 the red when he and his father saw two men kissing, that was the same year he met corn pop. speak of getting out to be an application to be a lifeguard and these two men hugged one anr andmm kissed one another and i'm getting out of the car at the light and i turned my dad and he said joe it's simple, they love each other. >> tucker: you want to hear the freaky thing? one of those well-dressed men was corn pop.ed that's right, taking a walk on the wild side generations before it was cool -- seriously. whatfo are the odds of that? the whole corn pop saga coming together in a neatin morality te come alive at an abc town hall,
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amazing. the odds were higher than you would think, when your writing narrative fiction, you got the luxury of tying up all the loose ends and the final scene of your story. if you can also rewrite other people's stories. asked last night about police brutality, the former vice president speculatete it my be people like george floyd would be alive today if the police had just shot them in the leg a few a few times. >> this a lot of things we've learned and it takes time but we can do this, you can band choke holds but beyond that you have to teach people how to de-escalate the circumstances de-escalate them. instead of somebody coming at you in the first thing you do is shootd c to kill, you shoot then the leg. >> tucker: they did that the corn pop after they chased him and his boyfriend down the road, more on that later. as to the question of shooting people in the leg, replacing choke holds with legs shooting, how much do you have to know about firearms or human biology to wonder if there may be
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unintended consequences there. i people do have arteries in theie legs after all and sometimes bullets do miss their target. why did no one last night point out it's demented to. today we got some clarity on somon thequestion, it turns oute moderator is not the only political operative in the room. one supposedly uncommitted voter was in fact a former obama administration speechwriter called nathan osborne, he repeated biden campaign talking points -- he was a "safeguard" that will i ensure long-term balance. >> merrick garland didn't get a hearing at all of 2016 and amy coney barrett is being pushed through at the last minute even though millions have already voted. what do you think about ideas ti put in place safeguards that will help ensure long-term balance and stability and what
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do you say to lgbtq americans and others who are very worried right now of erosions of their rights in our democracy as a whole? >> tucker: how do you handle a question that tough? if your joe biden and someone who used to work for you takes the microphone and savages you like you just saw, how do you deal with that? ift you're a man whose face down corn pop and maybe his boyfriend too, with a chain -- you're not even fazed. joe biden kept his composure, here's how he responded to. >> i have not been a fan of court packing because i think it just generates f what will happen -- whoever wins just keeps moving in a way that is inconsistent with what is going to be manageable. >> so you're still not a fan? >> i'm not a fan but it depends on how this turns out, how it's handled. there's a number of things that are going to be coming up and going to be a lot of discussion about other u alternatives.
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>> tucker: we did learn something new last night, despite their efforts to keep us from learning everything. joe biden isn't a fan of court packing, it has hadid a few off years and joe biden started too lose his faith in it, he even sold his court packing jersey -- at the end of the day, joe biden still open to court packing, he can get back on the court packing bandwagon depending on how things are handled -- got it? he was allowed to answer nonquestions like this because he was surrounded by sycophants and former employees of the party, over on nbc, the sitting president didn't have that luxury to put it mildly. it's not good for you to be sucked up to too much, it's good to get smacked around a little bit, it makes you sharper. at the nbc town hall, the president's biggest fan is a not a woman right behind him in the media made certain to docks her immediately -- how dare she and god. with got to find out who she is and they did. during the president's one hour
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event, the moderator asked him dozens more questions on the the room, and when truck began speaking, the moderator interrupted him. >> as the president -- >> there's no one who says you can't be out there, it's about having masks, your rallies don't require masks require masks. >> i wouldn't be to get the word out and the word is military ballots and they are dumped in garbage cans. >> we could go all night which we won't, we could go one by one. >> senate republicans are with you, they're going to go big? so far they have not said they would. >> i have not asked them to, we will always protect people with pre-existingte conditions. ov>> in november, that promise will be gone. >> tucker: joe biden wasn't there, so the moderator play that stand in for joe biden. the good news about all of this is it's so bad and so transparent that it can't
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continue, all their stupid morning shows and dumb sunday shows an even dumber cable shows, all of that's going away. when the smoke clears from this election, there will be a massive realignment in the media, no matter who wins. because they showed who they are hoand it's so unappealing, so fr from journalism that it can't continue. meanwhile, back on abc, joe biden skated without answering any questions about his son or antifa or blm come on the moderator at nbc pushed donald trump to condemn what you are not in white supremacy, the most important issues of this nation. andhe he did it, dutifully but t wasn't enough, the point of performative disavowals isn't te get the disavowal, it's the smear the person you're asking and that's exactly what happened last night. >> you are asked point blank to denounce white supremacy. in the moment, you didn't. you asked a follow-up question, who specifically?
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a couple of days later, you denounce white supremacy. >> you've done thiso to me -- i denounce white supremacy. >> you did two days later. >> i denounced it for years. you didn't ask joe biden whether or not he denounces antifa -- i watched him on the same show with lester holt and he was asking w questions like biden ws a child. are you listening?>> i denounce white supremacy, what's your next question? >> tucker: why doesn't anyone ever define what supremacy? what is white supremacy, the america's biggest problem, the fbi has said is the biggest problem we face but what is it exactly? white supremacy is not voting for joe biden, that's a functional definition for the president denounced it anyway, i denounce what supremacy, okay. that sounds like a dodge says the moderator. in her defense, nbc was under a lot of pressure from democrats
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to make last night's town hall look like this with 19 days to go until the election, just like ivfacebook and twitter delivered earlier this week, nbc delivered too. what does that add up to, steve krakauer watchedul carefully, hs the host of the fourth washed podcast, i cannot get past the fact that "abc news" with bitterly ironic air quotes never asked about this most significant policy store in the country right now which is the revelations about the burisma and the chinese government that pertains to joe biden, how could they not ask that? >> you don't ask that because of two reasons -- one, guilt. i think a lot of journalists really take the idea that donald trump won in 2016 personally. they believe they were responsible for it, whether it's the hillary email story, they get yelled at twitter about incessantly or giving
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donald trump a platform for his speeches they feel guilt about it but i also think it's fear. >> tucker: can i pause and say to our viewers who art in journalism, what you just said is true, it's a smart point, it's not set enough. i think it's exactly right, they feel guilty about it -- it's very sick but you're right. >> they believe that to their core and i also think there's a lot of fear to it. the idea -- we saw what happened on wednesday when maggie haberman of "the new york times" dared to send a link to "the new york post." she got completely destroyed and was called maga haberman, because of sending a link toan "the new york post" where she used to work. it's insane and at there's a fear now -- i think of george stephanopoulos even dared to approach that topic would've been pilloried on twitter and among his friends in new york city and the d.c. elite and that brings a lot of fear --
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that is completely misplaced, it's a small minority of people that have got a lot of power and between the guilt and the fear, you're not going to go there -- why whis risk it? >> tucker: isn't the point of journalism courage? you're going to say what you think is true, you're paid to make these decisions and you're going to tell them no matter what --- that's the whole point of having constitutional protections in the first alamendment, how have we forgotn that? it's the whole thing. >> you played both of those parts and we got to see this split screen of the way the media treats bothh candidates. i have to say if i'm teaching a journalism class, i'm pointing them in that direction of savannahoi guthrie. she's asking questions that nobody really cares about, but at least she's asking tough questions, you're not trying to placate the politicians. you should have an antagonistic relationship between the media and the press. at least on that scale, savannah pointing in that
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direction, george stephanopoulos sat back and barely nudged joe biden. occasionally whispered some sort of pushback and it was over to a person who worked for joe biden asking questions at a town hall. >> tucker: if you're going to air on one side, you want to be aggressive with the people in power, even if you voted for them. but the suck up to people in power is totallyin unforgivablei agree with that. steve krakauer, great to see y you. new emails published tonight that hunter biden and his business partner helped the chinese communist party to gain access to the obama white house. this is real, the exclusive reporting straight ahead.
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♪ >> tucker: the laptop that now was famously dropped off at a delaware computer repair store last year contains thousands and thousands of hundred biden's emails and texts, tens of thousands of pictures and many videos. we are still discovering more tonight. just hours ago, the site at breitbart.com reported a new document that did not come from
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hundred biden's laptop, instead it came from a former business associate twobiden, directly to breitbart. the documents showit that hundrd biden and his business partners helped richh chinese investors and members of the chinese communist party obtain meetings with then vice president joe biden. we know hunter biden and possibly joe biden himself wenti on to make a lot of money with the help of those chinese officials. why isn't anyone else in the media talkingg about this? this isn't some made-up nonsense, it's not an october surprise, this is china, our main and global rifle that is overtaking us. back to the story. on october 19th, 2011 at 2:08:00 p.m., and intermediat iy emailed with a pitch on behalf of something called the china entrepreneur club, it's c comprised of senior members of the chinese communist party and other wealthy officials from china, in the email, the intermediary refer to the cdc as china ink, he made it very clear tthat they wanted high-level
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access to the obama white house. "a group like this does not come along every day, a tour of the white house and a meeting of the member of the chief of staff's office and the john kerry would be great." the email went on this way, not sure if one has to be registered to do this. in other words, we're not sure if it's illegal -- was it legal? it doesn't sound it but that didn't slow down hundred biden or his associates. the email was forwarded to devon archer, hundred biden's business partner on november 5th 2011. on november 11th of that year, archer wrote twobiden to tell h him he had a meeting with an intermediary and it was "good," archer added that it seems like there's a lot to do together down the line. in a separate email that same day, archer wrote could confirm this with hunter on the line but we got him his meeting on monday with the chinese folks. turns out white house records
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show they indeed got the chance to visit the white house on november 14th, just like they asked. but the white house records from that day don't indicate they met with the vice president. today, breitbart did reporting and found an obscure document accessible online that confirms theib group did have a meeting with joe biden. why wasn't this meeting with the sitting vice president part of the publicub record? you may remember the obama white house used to brag how it's the most transparent administration in history, every visit was logged last national security be compromised. this visit wasn't logged and yet it happened. hunter biden delivered, what did he get in return? we know hunter biden went on to make a lot of money with the help of chinese investors he helped out, he and devon archer formed an investment fund backed by the chinese government that was closely linked to the cec. it's not clear whether joe biden also profited from that venture. other text messages suggest he
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may have -- "the new york post" suggests hunter biden may have reserved 10% of his equity stake in the chinese company for "the big guy," it suggests his father was forcing him to turn over half of his salary. more documents like this are coming -- we know that. we also know this was hunter biden's laptop and anyone who tells you otherwise is either ignorant or lying or both. what we don't know is when e joe biden and hunter biden wil have to answer any questions, they won't come on this show. for now our media is content to harass the laptop repair shop owner in wilmington -- it's always the little guy they crush. the beat cop, the woman who owns a hair salon, it's never the hedge fund manager. it is never the heads of google, never the fbi, it's always the
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little guy. they are hassling the guy, threatening the guy who owns the computer repair shop but is not clear the hard drive he turned over to the fbi -- it is now clear is genuine. that is a huge problem for people who have spent this week pretending it's russian propaganda, it's not, it's real. miranda devine is a columnist from "the new york post," she's been on the story for the very first day, for the third night in a row we are happy to have her on. what have we learned today from this cash of emails? >> it's more evidence to show that joe biden was aware of his families cash for influence scheme with shady companies overseas in china, ukraine, and elsewhere. but what we also know now is that he was actively participating in that scheme by having meetings that assisted his family's activities and you just mentioned some with regard to china, we have reported this
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week, others with respect to other places -- we have an email showing that hunter biden organized a meeting between joe biden and the number three guy at the corrupt energy company in ukraine, burismapa which was at that point paying hunter biden up to $83,000 a month for the five years that he was on thatt board. what we see is joe biden is an active participant, but even more disturbing is there is evidence that this had an impa impact, it worked america's foreign policy and we know that happened in china and ukraine. in china, basically joe biden was a point man for obama, for america, he went easy on china, he went easy on china, militarizing the south china sea, he went easyzi on cha
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ripping off america's intellectual property, in every way, china did well, america lost out and the biden family enriched themselves to the tune of million millions of millionsf dollars. >> tucker: that is the nicest summation i have heard, that's what the stakes were, this is not just a sleazy lobbyingaz scheme -- we see so many of those in washington -- they are allth wrong. this was more profound than that, this was selling out the country. miranda devine, i appreciate you some i met up for us. >> tucker: you heard a lot about the roe v. wade decision, all week during the confirmatiot hearings of amy coney barrett for supreme court --f in a minute, we're going to talk to someone called julia holcomb, the former fiance of singer steven tyler. the couple had an abortion, she's now a pro-life activists. she's reacting to the attacks of amy coney barrett, that's straight-ahead.'she a - the world is in turmoil. been turned on it's head. of a possible recession..
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>> tucker: amy coney barrett got hammered all week by democrats on the roe v. wade decision, here's part of it. >> the right to a safe and legal abortion is at stake. >> sadly it's not just the affordable care act that's at stake. it's a woman's right to decide when and how to have a family. >> turned back to a time when women had no right to control their own bodies. >> without roe v. wade, our country looks like people being denied to mak of the ability top decisions about their own bodies, to plan for their futures. >> tucker:r: you heard a lot from childless ideologues like cory booker about abortion, you heard of very little from people who had abortions, we thought we would speak with one. julia holcomb was once the fiance of musician steven tyler,
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at the time time she had an abortion. she watched the hearings this ylweek and we thought we would hear the response to it, thanks much for coming on, we appreciate it. what did you think as he watched this? >> i was thrilled that she was there as a candidate for the supreme court, i thought she was a great potential justice and i'm happy she was nominated. i think the left likes to portray abortion as pro-woman and my story is a very personal example s of how abortion damags women and how coercive it is. i met steven when i was 16 years old and he became my legal guardian, i was his ward. i became pregnant when i was still a teenager, i can remember coming to him and telling him i was expecting a baby and he reassured me that everything would be all right, that we would get married, and not to
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worry, that he would take care of me. i asked to see a doctor and a set up a prenatal visit and he refused. he said you can't go to a doctor, they would ask questions about how old you are and how you became pregnant and who the father is. you can't go to the doctor. that was the first moment where i began to worry. along the way, he had the change of heart and he made the decision he wanted me to have an abortion. he came to me and told me his lawyers had set up a doctor, this was very early after roe v. wade had been decided, so there hadn't been many abortions and i was pretty far along because i thought i was going to be able to keep baby, i was at least five months along, but i don't know for sure because i had not been allowed to see a doctor. he came to me and told me that i was gonna have to have ann abortion. it didn't really matter how i begged to keep my baby, that decision wasn't going to be in my hands, it b came down to i cn
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have the abortion or i could hit the street -- i had dropped out of high school to live with stephen, i have never been taught to drive, i have no car, no money, i was completely dependent upon it stephen in every way, so i was terrified and i caved in out of fear. i went through a horrific late-term abortion that was traumatizing. it took years to recover from that experience. sometimes we can think coerced abortions only happen somewhere like china where women are forced to undergo abortions against their will but the truth is coerced abortions happen everywhere abortion is legal. a woman can become pregnant in the first thing she has to do is defend her h baby's right to be born, she has to defend her right to become a mother and this is not a position of strength for any woman too be i.
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i look at amy coney barrett and i see a woman who is very strong, she has a family, career, a husband, a successful marriage, and she is a gift to her community and to the count country. >> tucker: what you're describing doesn't sound like liberation to me at all. >> no, i've traveled around the country speaking at pro-life events and after i've given my talk, sometimes i'll get to t visit with people who are there and women have come up and shared their stories. there are so many women out there who have been through traumatic abortions and it stays with them, that grief. >> tucker: i've got to ask you since you brought up steven tyler, what does he think of this t now? >> even he experienced the regret after having gone through this ordeal -- his reaction was
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"what i have done." he's not exactly a tenderhearted sensitive person, he's a heavy-metal rocker and that was his reaction. >> tucker: a lot of people feel that way, i appreciate you coming on tonight. that is a moving story and a perspective we don't hear enough because there are many perspectives on this. great to see you, thank you. ♪ so, two forces are killing a lot of americans right now, two big ones. one is the coronavirus and the second is that no o.d.es, they have one thing in common -- both came from china. ellis and fentanyl is produced in china and shipped directly to this country, or its component
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parts are. why does no one ever say this? gordon channing is a senior fellow a that she may have notid the connection as well, we're happy to have them on tonight. i'm not alleging any kind of conspiracy i suppose but the plain facts of that, fentanyl and covid both came from china, china is our main rival, they are benefiting from the deaths of many thousands of americans, why is this something we discu discuss? >> i think because it's so evil what's going on. it's difficult for people in democracies to understand this but wee have to remember that cmao zedong created this killer beell killed society and it's absolutely vicious. the chinese leaders are absolutely obsessed about the notion of comprehensive national power, it is a meticulously defined metric and chinese leaders look at china's cnp and the way to increase it is to
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strengthen china and we can other countries and that's theee connection between coronavirus and fentanyl. >> tucker: a lot of americans think as china rises and the u.s. declines, we can have a peaceful coexistence with a leave us alone,re it doesn't sod like that's possible in your view. >> i don't think that it is. for instance, fentanyl. the gangs that produce and distribute fentanyl are large, international, and in china's total surveillance state, they can't operate without the party state knowing about it and approving what they do. last year, 36,500 americans died from fentanyl. also the statistics are even higher when you include those who died from cocaine and fentanyl combination cocktails. we are dealing with a situation where china is really happy about thisy because they aren't doing anything to stop it. >> tucker: may be someone at the town halls could have asked about it -- i'm glad you brought
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this to our attention, great to see you tonight. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: no single person or policymaker in this country made decisions that killed more people from covid and the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. he's got a new book out bragging about how he responded to the coronavirus. we are going to talk to our janice dean who knows a lot about this subject, unfortunat unfortunately, about his book next.
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♪ >> tucker: because absolutely anything isbs possible in the yr 2020, the governor of new york andrew cuomo is coming up with a new book bragging about how he responded to the coronavirus -- joining us now as janice dean, the senior meteorologist atse fox news. sadly her in-laws died in nursing homes in new york state because of the policies andrew cuomo -- we should say janice dean is one of the most honest people we know and therefore one of our favorite guests. thanks for coming on, what is your response to this book?
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>> i couldn't believe it when i found out a couple of months ago that he had time to write a book in the middle of a pandemic. what governor would have time to do that? it's incredible, i thought it was a satire from the babylon be when i saw he was writing a book about his leadership, taking a victory lap for flattening the curve, the curve that has my in-laws on it. he has lost more people in new york from coronavirus on his watch than any other state, over 33,000 people have died and -- including my in-laws. we don't have h the total number of deaths from seniors getting covid in assisted living facilities, because his representatives, his nursing homeme representatives, his heah commissioner will not give us the accurate totals of those that died in hospitals like my
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mother-in-law. all these unanswered questions that we have about his leadership that he has not answered in his so-called book. >> tucker: did you expect him to apologize? since your question. >> i'm notn. sure. up until this point, he hasn't apologized. i think in thee very beginning f he had taken some accountabilitk and said i was trying to save some of the hospital beds for the patient toes that we needed, and that's why i made that mistake of putting covid positive patients in nursing homes for 46 days, if he had done that to the very beginning, but he never has and he's blamed everyone else except the person who signed thehe executive orde, andrew cuomo. it was in effect for 46 days, he has blamed god and mother nature and the president and the cdc and "the new york post" and fox news, he blamed everyone except the person that signeder the mandate, putting those covid
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positive patients into nursing homes. that's what gets my blood boiling, he refuses to acknowledge that. if the other day and one of the interviews he said we didn't need to put covid positive patients into nursing homes and i screamed, it just makes our pugrief even worse. >> tucker: couldn't agree more, all of us make mistakes, we make mistakes on this show but you know a man's character by their reaction next. people who blame others and don't apologize for their mistakes, it's the lowest and i'm sorry you had to suffer the consequences -- thank you so much. >> thank you for having me on. >> tucker: our next guest is literally the niece of usama bin laden, a controversial last name but she says supporting donald trump for president has caused her more problems -- we'll tell you the story after the break.
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>> sean: the niece of deceased
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international terror mastermind osama bin laden. she is also a >> tucker: she is also the supporter of donald trump, she has been for the last five years -- living in switzerland,i she says she's received more hate and abuse for backing donald trump for president than she has for being related to usama bin laden. she joins us tonight, we are happy to have her -- thanks so much for coming on. what a remarkable thing to say, i want to hear you say it. you say you've received more abuse for backing donald trump than for being the niece of usama bin laden. >> as you can imagine, there are a few challenges that come with carrying this name, not least on a personal level, being associated to a man whose values and beliefs are so diametrically opposed to my own. as i mentioned in my piece for the spectator, i find it quite interesting that in certain elitist circles, i've encountered that i've faced so
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much arrogance and vulgarity for stating my belief, my support for the president and it's unlike anything i've experienced before. that being said, while there is no justification for such behavior -- i've been mocked and yelled at at dinner tables and insulted and there is no justification for it, but i see why -- their understanding is limited because 99% of the media over here in europe, believe it or not it's even worse than it is in the u.s., they are base based -- and the six conglomerates that own these outlets. that explains part of it. >> tucker: good for the spectator of london for publishing your piece despite that environment over there.
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very quickly, why do you support donald trump, what is it about the president that you like? >> as i wrote in my letter to america published last month when i decided to speak up for the president, the list that i wrote is very long but there's one particular aspect from my tiperspective which stands out d it's his foreignsp policy. when you look at everything he's done in terms of taking on and fighting the scourge of islamic terrorism, it's such a relief coming from eight years of the previous administration to do a 180 and obama during his time in the white house has done so many things to make the world a much more dangerous place and it explains many things in terms of
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why obama tried to tell president-elect trump not to hire general flynn. >> tucker: i wish we had more time, we are out of time, we appreciate you coming on tonig tonight. ♪ wasn't really a town hall. coming up we will discuss last night's media malpractice. corey lewandowski, sean spicer aaron perini is with us. also, we have an exclusive

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