bundle up and take a walk outside do it now before it gets real cold. will: i'm headed off to a soccer game, first youth sports of 2020 pete: that's a great thing also confirm there are six, not three innings, good to know have a great saturday everybody. neil: all right, let the crazy campaign schedule begin. welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto this is cavuto live glad to have you with us the next couple of hours we've got a lot in-store including a very very busy president of the united states. he will be chris crossing the country today going to michigan and wisconsin joe biden is taking the day off. he's expected to be in north carolina tomorrow, and we're going to tell you about some democrats who are worried about his rather conservative and by that i mean conservative schedule, that he isn't being nearly as aggressive as the president is in these final, what, weeks of the race and we're also going to detail you on some startling developments in twitter and what

it knew and when it knew it and now dialing back on this whole idea that new york post story, however controversial it is, jacker dorsey it is now freely allowing people to retreat tweet it to anyone they want, so we're on top of the campaign travels and on top of the president right now who is seeking out ground he won and stunned the world four years ago. the very very latest right now from mark meredith. hey, mark. >> neil, good morning to you. as you mentioned president trump has a busy day ahead of him making those multiple campaign stops in wisconsin and michigan, and then spending the night out in las vegas as you mentioned the biden campaign here in delaware today but the former vice president was holding multiple campaign stops this week including in michigan last night. biden had a chance to speak to supporters about a number of different issues including the auto industry, coronavirus and healthcare during that visit to southfield, outside of detroit but the former vice president refused to talk to reporters about accusations that he made against his son hurter and whether e-mails allegedly

sent by the bidens show any improper behavior. >> i know you'd ask it i have no responses, another smear campaign right up your alley, those are the questions you always ask. >> meantime, biden's runningmate, california senator kamala harris is off the campaign trail this weekend. she decided to postpone travel and in-person events until monday after two people a harris staffer and flight crew member tested positive for covid both biden and harris continue to test negative for the view researcher and we expect harris will beholding a virtual fundraiser this afternoon next week the biden campaign plans to rely on one of its most high profile surrogates former president barack obama to help get out the vote and president obama will campaign on behalf of biden wednesday in philadelphia. the campaign has not yet said what kind of event we can expect but this would not be the first time the former president has spoken out on behalf of the biden campaign. you'll remember, neil it was during the democratic national convention this summer that the former president delivered a blistering rebuke of president trump and just last week, we saw

former first lady michelle o deliver a video message and the campaign is calling a closing argument relying on the high profile democratic names in the final days of the campaign. neil? neil: mark meredith thank you my friend very very much in the meantime you're keeping track of all of those who have already voted, depending on what data we are getting, at least 21 million americans have already voted. that doesn't include the million s more we see just sort of adding to the nation's role day by day in all of this. this could be the first time of that mail-in balloting will eclipse that of the voting that we see on the day of the election, itself and in the battleground states thus far , the momentum, thus far, favors joe biden. now, the trend certainly is that it doesn't necessarily mean it pans out that way, we had similar data in a lot of the battleground states four years ago and we know how reliable that was. let's go to jackie jackie

deployment and keeping a close eye on those numbers. reporter: good morning, neil you're right it's all about these battleground states making a large push this weekend you talked about early voting the latest figure i've seen is over 22 million people have already cast a ballot. let's start in wisconsin though, because that is where trump is headed and you can see , in 2016 , he won that state by a pretty slim margin, but he visit ed it six times and hillary clinton never visited that state during the general election. trump in that margin very close but you can see that these visits do actually move the needle. so where do we stand in wisconsin right now? the rpc average has biden leading by six points at the moment, and then i want to turn to michigan as well, because this is one that we are watching very closely, and even slimmer margin here for president trump in 2016, but it turned out that the largely blue collar manufacturing state did not stand by hillary clinton. the question is, can biden win them over again?

now, biden is polling well with michigan voters and he's ahead by seven points right now, both he and trump need this state. it's very close to ohio, it's very close to pennsylvania as well. speaking of pennsylvania, this is biden's home state. he was born in scranton. trump pulled it out by a margin not seen in that state in over 100 years, but this time around, it seems like biden could have that home court advantage. in the rcp average, biden is pulling ahead only by 5.6 points and finally in north carolina, this is the home state of president trump's daughter. she made that very clear, during the convention. president trump won it by a healthy margin last time and it makes sense that biden is taking a day off today but he is headed there, and trump is focused elsewhere right now. i want you to take a look at the polls there biden's only ahead by 2.7 points so clearly, he knows that he has some work to do there, neil. neil: all right, jackie thank you very very much, following

all of those developments in the meantime here, have you looked at the calendar for next week? forget all of the campaign travel plans on the 22nd we're going to have the judiciary committee vote on judge amy coney barrett to become the next associate justice on the supreme court perhaps the very next day on the 23rd a full senate vote is very conceivable by the way at the end of next week, she could be sitting on the highest court in the land. then, there's the issue of wanting to hear from those big social media giants of course we've been hearing a lot about jack dorsey at twitter, mark zuckerberg over at facebook and they're already slated to appear before the senate commerce committee and we're getting wind that separately the senate judiciary committee the same one that has been dealing with the judge barrett hearings wants to hear from these guys as well. they've actually subpoenaed dorsey himself, don't know about zuckerberg but it's hot and

heavy all week long. let's just assess where we stand as we go into one of the final weeks right before the big election vote. john bussey with us from the wall street journal the associate editor and also christian democratic strategist and lauren clappey, the republican strategist as well so lauren let me begin with you on the busy week coming up and could be a defining one. it be certainly in recent times one of the fastest supreme court picks that used to be routine, not too too long ago but anything but now, the significance of that? >> so i think when we look at the supreme court nominee and the vote and her possibly being confirmed next week, i think we have to remember that what this is really going to effect is turnout and enthusiasm and given your reporter just said 21 million people have already voted this is not a normal election year. normally, we would have great emphasis on the last week of campaigning on get out the vote, making sure that everyone is out

, you know, both parties are getting high turnout, and getting riled up for election day, but that's just not the case as much this year, and so i think when we look at the supreme court vote, we're going to be looking at turnout among republicans in particular. this is going to be something that we seen with the early poll ing data that's been coming out of some of the states is that the democrats are the ones that are voting at higher rates on absentee early mail-in votes less so than the republicans, republicans are planning to vote on the day, the day of, so i think when we look at all of the events next week in particular we need to be looking at them with an eye on republican turnout, because that's going to make the biggest impact on november 3rd. neil: you know, it's an interest angle, i wanted to explore, because you looked at the data and the early polling and its been done certainly the early voting that's been done, and if there is passion around the judge barrett issue, and that it could galvanize republican votes, but if so many

have already voted, is that opportunity lost? i'm just curious what you think of that. >> well also because the issue may be resolved well before the election, is that necessarily going to bring republicans to the polls? there may be a vote at least mitch mcconnell plans to have a vote before the election, so she may be on the court before people have to go to the polls. will that drive them to the poll s? it's a big question mark. you've already said it. the elections been underway for weeks and there will be politics geeks like you and i and others on the panel that are following the events all the way up to november 3, but the electorate has largely made up its mind at this point and i think that you're seeing that in the enthusiasm numbers, and while there may be a lot of events this week coming up to the election, a lot of rallies by both candidates, i think that you're going to see the decisions probably

galvanized down back to what's foremost on people's mind and it's not the twitter hearings and it may be the said hearings, the supreme court hearings and it's the coronavirus and the fact that cases are up and we just saw an election in new zealand where the prime minister was re-elected based on her effective handling of that issue the mismanagement of the crisis is going to be front and center and i think that that's a big reason why you're seeing enthusiasm up-to-date and that you're going to see the enthusiasm right through november 3. neil: you know, i'm curious your take on the fact that joe biden is not campaigning today. he's taking the day off. he's had a very conservative limited schedule that is probably being generous and i'm wondering if he is repeating the mistakes hillary clinton in retrospect made four years ago but even by biden's standards, she was certainly a lot harder worker, that he is avoiding getting out there, avoiding maybe interplays with the

president, trying to play itself but it could be interpreted as sitting on a lead that might not be there for long what do you think? >> i mean, i don't think so. i'll just add one other thing into your very interesting conversation about the supreme court on the democratic side, we're actually seeing on the ground the dems talking about preexisting conditions so as long as our candidates are tying the issue of healthcare to the supreme court, that could actually galvanize some democratic voters, but to your question about the biden campaign, i think they're working very smart. they are where they need to be. the president is basically pulled out of michigan as far as how this goes and they got their surrogates out there. this is what you look at, you look at the last few weeks of a campaign, and you work smart. you be where you need to be. it's difficult, obviously, on both sides with the coronavirus and dealing with all of the health implications there of gathering large groups of people which the biden campaign is not going to do because it's not responsible, but the campaign is

doing what they need to do in order to turn out the vote and i think you're seeing it in states like georgia and texas, harris county, travis county, where you're seeing a lot of enthusiasm on the democratic side. i don't think we're repeating the mistakes that we made in the past. we've learned and are being where we need to be in the states that we need to be in right now. neil: all right, watch it closely and just to the point of reference the president has not given up on michigan, maybe campaign ad spending might be in question, but he is going to michigan and he is going to wisconsin so he's revisiting battleground states and i believe in michigan he won by barely 10,000 votes but it was a huge pickup for the gop back then so guys we'll see how all that sorts out i want to thank you very very much. we told you about the crackdown on twitter and facebook and republicans are even petitioning the federal election commission to say this is helping and a one -sided attack on conservative s you better do something about this.

now, we've already heard from jack dorsey at twitter who said we didn't communicate this effectively this whole new york post story whether it was iffy or not, we shouldn't have shut it down or made it very very difficult for people to sort of retweet it. he's now allowing that but is it too little too late? senators watching all of this very very closely, right after this.

>> if they don't before the election you are open to expanding the court? >> i'm open to considering what happens from that point on. >> you said so many times during the campaign all through the course of your career it's important to level. >> it is, but george, if i say no matter what answer i gave you , if i say it, that's the headline tomorrow. it won't be about what's going on now, the improper way they're proceeding. but don't voters have a right to know where i stand? >> they do have a right to nowhere they stand before they

vote. >> you'll come out with a clear position before election day? >> yes depending on how they handle this. neil: all right, not quite sure about that depending on how they handle this but that is the closest joe biden has come to saying before election day, he'll weigh in on this push, some democrats have had to say we're going to pack the court and do everything we can reverse what they said was an overreach in handling the judge barrett nomination and rushing it in as they said. now, again, the timing of that is a little weird and what he's waiting for , is it presumably the vote for judge barrett and after that's cleared they will come out to say whether he agrees with some of those democrats who said no way and senator bill cassidy joins us right now the louisiana republican on what he makes of all of this , senator good to have you back. he's going to wait to see how this works out i think what he's referring to is the vote on barrett. it's fairly safe to conclude right now, it's always you don't want to say these things 100% that judge barrett will be

confirmed along party lines and then, he's presumably going to announce whether he's for or against packing the court, what do you think? >> i don't think he'll announce but i do think this is part in parcel of their plan. they keep everything close to the vest pretending to have a moderate agenda when in reality and schumer has been talking about this forever, they want to do away with the filibuster, so they can pack the court, make washington d.c., puerto rico, and american virgin islands american states so that then they have a permanent ruling majority on the left. this is how they get the green new deal. this is how they get government takeover healthcare. it is a frightening agenda. he's not going to tell us before hand, we'll find out afterwards. neil: all right, you know, the president will be chris crossing the country and very busy not long after dealing with the covid-19 virus itself, but it's an aggressive schedule and he's obviously targeting a lot of the battleground states, and as you see it now, there are

reports even in today's new york times, senator that a lot of your republican colleagues are afraid that if they don't separate themselves from the president, they could go down too. how real is that fear? >> i can't speak to people's local politic, except i see a real clear politics today that john james, our senate candidate in michigan, is now one point up over gary peters, and that thom tillis has tightened the race in north carolina and he's only one point down. those are both places the president has visited recently, so i can't speak for local politics, but reality is where the president visited our guys are doing better. neil: so when you look at all of this , and the virus that now is sort of reappeared as a front- burner issue from voters, do you think that works for or against the president and the only reason why i ask is the latest statistics don't look good in terms of the virus 66,000 new cases after 63,000

debatable for the spikes are worrisome to the degree that the president says this is under control. this data seems to indicate otherwise. what do you think? >> so a couple things about that. there are those who get infected and those who die. if it's college students going to a college bar and getting infected, extremely few of those folks are going to have any problems. now the folks who die are those who are in nursing homes and so you've noticed as we've had an increase in the number of cases, the increase in deaths has not been commensurate that's because we now have a strategy in which we protect those who are most vulnerable if they get infected, and in that sense we're going to continue as we reopen the economy they have a spike in cases. one more thing on that there's an article in today's wall street journal about how the south has been more aggressive reopening the economy , has the lowest unemployment rate, yes, we have more infections and we have a little bit more depth, which is

tragic, but we can't ignore the tragedy of a locked down economy in which we have increased incidence of domestic abuse, alcohol abuse, suicide, et cetera, and so i think the president's recognizing that we've got this tension but we're managing the tension better, protecting people most vulnerable, at the same time, keeping businesses that folks have put their life savings in from totally collapsing and i suspect that joe biden's president, he's going to pursue the same strategy. neil: real quickly, your take on jack dorsey of twitter no longer blocking that new york post article, contending allege ed e-mails between hunter biden and the executives. what do you think of that? is he just getting ready for war in the senate hearings? >> let's go back to the original decision to block. the thought occurred to me is dogma speaks loudly. he's got this kind of blind spot to that on the left which they promote which is totally

spurious but when then something pops up about the left, all of a sudden it gets censored. neil: and you still want to hear from him right senator, i'm tight on time. >> absolutely. absolutely. neil: okay. >> we should hear why are they allowing -- neil: all right, senator. sorry to do that to you, and my bad for not keeping track of time but senator thank you for that. again he made it very very clear of dorsey along with mark zuckerberg already slated to appear before the senate commerce committee there's separate interest in having him appear before the senate judiciary committee, that's their way of saying we're not done with this , not even close stay with us you're watching cavuto live.

neil: forget about the polsters maybe we should be concert trait

ing on the shoppers, because well they've been shopping you've been shopping in record numbers in the latest period of almost 2% in september , and if you add to that, the likely billions of dollars spent for amazon's two day prime day sale that also lifted sales quite dramatically at stores like walmart and, well target, and so many others that we're having in-kind online sales, you have to think people don't buy a lot of stuff unless they're confident about where they are and where they're going and when people were questioned on this , in other words where they stand right now versus where they stand or did stand about four years ago, 56% feel that they are better off. is that being missed in some of these polls that might be focusing on other matters? charles payne also "making money " adam lashinsky fox news contributor, also with us, so charles, there does seem to be a disconnect or maybe the retail sales mean nothing more than people are interested in buying, but that's a lot of buying going

on what do you think? charles: yeah, every aspect of this economy has baffled the experts from the very beginning if you go back to march and april and june the predictions of doom and gloom to the degree they were predicted have not materialized and many of the key things we look at from manufacturing to homeownership to this amazing housing boom and even spending retail spending has been significantly better, has been in a v-shaped recovery and i've got to tell you here is the real thing, neil. american consumers are poised to spend like crazy next year under the right circumstances. household debt to disposable income is at record lows, over $2 trillion in savings, and we really are poised to have an amazing 2021 obviously vaccine therapeutics and all that may play a role the election might play a role but it's the entire economy for the most part has done, you know, with pockets and i'm sure

we'll discuss, but for the most part has done much better than the expert said and its been amazing. neil: you know, adam when you look at that and you realize of course it was the bill clinton campaign that famously coined the expression "it's the economy stupid" the one issue the president has routinely poll ed better than joe biden and yet he trails in these polls are we missing something or is there something else, the buyer and virus and some of these other issues what do you think is going on here because that's a big disconnect. >> well you put your finger on it, neil in terms of what is the critical, you know, issue for this election, and in the clinton case, it was the economy, stupid, not you, neil, and in this time, it isn't i mean, when we're, charles is overstating the case by more than a little by saying that the economy is amazing, specifically, retail sales -- charles: amazing based on what we were told it was going to be. amazing based on the expectation s of a great depression.

we are not in a great depression >> i get it and i'll just add so september retail sales picked up compared to august, so to the polling question, neil, if the electorates attitude of donald trump picked up in september of his sorry of his the way he has handled the coronavirus, picked up in september compared to march i think he be leading in the poll but it hasn't and right now, it's the coronavirus, stupid, not the economy. neil: so charles, let me add i want you both to weigh in on this both candidates this week were looking at the issue of taxes, joe biden wants to raise them and those making $400,000 or more the president says that it won't end or be limited there. gentlemen, reviewing this and then i want charles to get your reaction to it first. both candidates about taxes take a look. you're going to raise the corporate tax, you're going to raise taxes on the wealthy. is it wise to do even that when the economy is as weak as it is right now? >> absolutely. >> 900,000 people --

>> that's a great question. so there's not any delay on the tax increases? >> well i've got to get the votes. president trump: this is election is a choice between a trump recovery and a biden depression. he gets in, they are going to quadruple your taxes, takeaway all of the benefits that i gave you which turned out to be a lot neil: charles payne? your thoughts. charles: you know, this week, the urban brookings institute reviewed biden's tax plan and they reviewed it back in march and they said it would raise $4 trillion and now they're re very looked at it and it's a liberal think tank and they said it will raise 2.4 trillion so the rub is that these taxes will have to be significantly higher for him to maintain those promises that he's making on the campaign trail. meanwhile, you know, as far as president trump's tax cuts, they went into effect in 2018. look at the data on blue collar wages that year. they grew 3% year-over-year, something they hadn't done in

over a decade, so we're going to take that away and substitute it for something and i'll let adam speak right now but here is the real irony. joe biden went out of his way to say we're in a k-shaped recovery so what he wants to do is take the upper part of that k, and punish them, when it's pretty clear, if you punish them, whose going to get hurt most? the other part of the k. so it just doesn't make sense, particularly, and as we're still recovering, to enact these tax cuts which tax hikes rather which i think are more punitive than economic. neil: you know, adam even barack obama put off his tax hikes and returned the top level back to 39.6% when it looked like things were too dicey to do that. do you think if biden were elected president, he would do the same that he would reassess where we stand, and delay the tax hike? >> i mean, generally speaking, yes, and i think he sort of, that was behind his answer when

he said i'll need to get the votes. i mean economically, we know what already has happened which is that the deficit has exploded but we're not talking about economics. we're talking about politics and i think charles put his finger on it. there are more votes in that lower part of the k-shaped recovery and that's trump's problem and so if biden can convince those people of this point that he's been making and that kamala harris has been making, that they won't raise taxes under any circumstances on those people, if they win that case, they've won the election economically and politically. neil: all right thank you very men. both of you on that and on those taxes in the 400,000 and over i urge you to sort of follow as you can in today' wall street journal take a look it isn't just raising the top rate or take the 21% corporate rate bringing it up to 28% it's all of the add-ons and limited deductions that generally sends that tax um a lot more than thought and possibly broiling a lot more americans than thought. we'll be following that along more in the meantime, here, you

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neil: you know, as worried as we are about the pandemic in this country and sign that cases

are speaking nothing like what's going on abroad. we're only a few hours away from france reimposing curfew to deal with what has been a percentage spike in such cases, pretty much throughout the country, forget just the paris area, but this at the same time polish hospitals are swelling we've heard of spikes going on in portugal that have them revisiting lockdowns that seemed once unthinkable even in germany was once the european's poster child for how to handle this reports are it's getting out of the hand and they are looking at restrictions on everything from how many will be allowed to go to restaurants to how long schools will be able to remain open. dr. gupta joins us from johns hopkins university school of medicine. doctor, first of all is what's happening there a sign of what could happen here? what do you think? >> well first of all, thank you , neil, for having me on. you know, look.

french president macron took a decisive but imperative decision this week given the rise in cases in paris and what we're seeing there, certainly could happen here with the approaching flu season, and he really sound ed the alarm on the rise in cases in france that are getting worse and we really have to take note on this very serious nature of this illness in france, and certainly believe that what he has done really for the individuals in france, to take action and to protect themselves is critically important. the president in france has really made it very clear in his note and taking a collective responsibility to address this together as we all should, for everyone to take this on and to take their equal part on social distancing prevention and hygiene, so, with the flu season -- neil: presumably, doctor, i'm sorry, they're doing a lot of that stuff so here is what i

really want to pick your fine brain on the significance of the numbers because i think i look at hospitalizations and tragically, deaths and there, it used to be if you were older and diagnosed with this virus, you were all but a goner. now, i've known many older who dealt with this who have very very you know, risky conditions, chris christie comes to mind, he was in intensive care, came out he's fine. a host of others as well so i guess what i'm asking despite the up-tick in cases i'm not sen hospitalizations and tragically, deaths. in other words are we better at handling this now? how would you describe it? >> well, look. i think we have to be practical. i think that we are much more knowledgeable about this disease but there's still a lot of information that we need to gather and it will take years to get there. this is a very serious illness and with the cold weather

approaching it'll be more information that comes out of the flu season and especially with the vaccine. we still need more information in how immunity will be developed and so there's still key issues that are very critical that will be upcoming in several months ahead, so i think that will be very important and hopefully, with more information from these countries, with their policies, we'll definitely get there in time. neil: you know, dr. , you mentioned a vaccine and pfizer has indicated that its own covid-19 vaccine could be available for emergency use by the end of the year. this is a race among some of the biggest companies, biotech companies on earth, drug companies on earth, johnson & johnson, eli lilly, they're all in that final round, some delay ed by problems in early trials, but all saying that something could be had relatively soon, if only for emergency use to begin. are you optimistic that

something even in the wayneing months of this year, week, actually, can be out there, even for emergency use? >> look, you know, we're all hopeful and we can't give up hope in the critical challenging time. that has to remain, but the ultimate story here is that trials are on pause, and we all should really understand the reason for that, that there is an important point here that critical points have been reached and we have to understand and keep those things in mind and three things come to mind here that it takes several months to get drugs to patients. number two, distribution will be an issue when vaccines do arrive and most importantly, is that we still have to build this issue of trust and how individuals will receive those vaccines and how effective they will be, so these are the issues that i have in mind, as we move ahead and

i'm hopeful but data will get to be seen. neil: yeah, i hope you're right, doctor always reassuring i appreciate that and calling it as you see it, a front row seat in all of this and we appreciate that. dr. gupta thank you, be healthy and well yourself. >> you too. neil: jack dorsey he's the guy behind twitter, and he freely admitted this past week and maybe we didn't communicate not running this new york post allowing people to retweet and now he's allowing them to re tweet but it might be too little too late, because he's created a demand that he appear on capitol hill, not just one but several committees, let's just say, it is a twitter storm.

neil: all right we're getting some images just coming into us from bay route, lebanon first anniversary of a non-sectarian

protest movement over the political elite that some months later you might recall was blamed for not policing a horrific explosion in the port city there, and that resulted in a lot of deaths a lot of injuries and a lot of finger pointing about people who should have known what was going on in government but didn't. that was a catalyst and this goes back to a long dispute with government leaders who a growing number of protesters are saying have not done their job, to hear the ills of average folks, right now unemployment is rocketing in the area certainly rocketing with one of the poorest performing economies in the middle east and these people are letting it be known, we had it, its got to stop and its got to stop right now. we'll keep an eye on that. we're also keeping an eye later on the president will be traveling he's going to michigan , he's going to wisconsin and in fact seeking out areas of where he barely lost, counties he barely lost including heavily democratic

where of course if you think about it, barack obama had piled up double-digit leads and wins in back to back races and the president barely lost this county in michigan but i think a little bit more than a percent so he is trying to see if this time, he could tip it over and win the whole state as he did last time. last time was by about 10,000 votes so we're focusing on that also focusing on a timeline of the social media executives who will be coming to capitol hill first before the senate commerce committee but the senate judiciary committee wants their hands-on the like of jack dorsey of twitter over the handling of this whole new york post story, and whether he was trying to silence anything that was even remotely critical of joe biden. he has since rescinded that, saying that people can retweet the article, but it might be a case of too little too late, because the wagons are circling lucas tomlinson following this in what will be a pretty aggressive schedule of hearings

they want to have like right away right? >> it sure will, nellie ohr and that controversy stems from twitter and facebook blocking access of that new york post article about hunter biden's e-mail the twitter ceo now apologized. earlier today the white house press secretary weighed in. >> this is what happens in north korea, in china, in iran. they sensor voices, they sensor news organizations it shouldn't happen in the united states of america. reporter: but some democrats disagree. >> well, look i'm not here to defend all the decisions made by all the social media companies, but i hope we're all agreeing that we also don't want a social media company to become viral engines for lies and disinformation. reporter: a senate panel will voterly next week to subpoena tweeter's ceo jack dorsey and the other tech giants of facebook and google to appear before the senate judiciary committee friday. yesterday twitter ceo admitted

he was wrong "straight blocking of url's links was wrong and we updated our policy and enforcement to fix, our goals to attempt to add context and now we will have capabilities to do that." the republican national committee filed a complaint saying twitter's acting as biden 's media operative taking pro cabbies they've steps to shield biden from negative news coverage by blocking distribution and muzzling those who tried. >> its been going on for years. this week though, they declared open war on the republican party , and conservatives across america, and my message for these big tech oligarchs is simple. winter is coming. reporter: more than 90% of employees at facebook and twitter donated to democrats this year, neil. neil: all right, thank you my friend, very much. lucas tomlinson on that aggressive timeline, wisconsin is one of the two states the president plans to visit later that state's former governor and what to make of all of the early voting that already happened not only there but lots of places and how it could

change the dynamics better than 22 million americans have reportedly already filed ballots , so they've already made up their mind, after this.

neil: all right, the campaign goes on, the president has aggressive travel schedule as he has all this week keep in mind barely a week after surviving covid-19, he's as busy as any candidate has ever been on the campaign trail, and a lot busier than his opponent who will be staying home today joe biden is expected to head off to north carolina tomorrow but the president will be visiting michigan and wisconsin, two states he won last go-around that shocked the political world and paved the way for victory

that no one saw coming. former wisconsin governor scott walker with us right now. governor always good to have you depending on the polls, governor , it looks like it will be tough for the president to do what he did four years ago. they widened out a little bit in michigan as well, but he's going and right now, joe biden is not and i find biden's travel plans almost like those of hillary clinton four years ago where maybe she took those states for granted, didn't bother campaigning and joe biden could be repeating the same mistakes or just sitting on a lead. what do you think? >> oh, i think he's repeating the same mistake, even earlier this summer, before the kenosha riots when things were burning to the ground there and sadly two tragic deaths joe biden prior to that had never been to wisconsin since he announced president, not just during the pandemic but early in 2020 all throughout his campaign in 2019, i think it was a critical mistake that hillary clinton made four years ago and

i think joe biden's making that again. the president is not taking any ground he will be in janesville today and that's a critical place for him to do well in. neil: you know i just wonder whether some of your fellow republicans, governor, are getting worried. now one thing senator, ben sas of nebraska always a critic of the president saying right now the virus' has been pathetic et cetera but it wasn't that long ago that ted cruz of texas feared and said there could be a republican blood bath of proportions if we don't move quickly and lindsey graham who kiddingly mentioned the possibility of the democrats will retake the white house, and others who are trying to distance themselves from some of the more controversial policies, by far not all but a number that has me wondering, are they worried enough to think you might lose, mr. president, but don't take me down with you. >> well i think the key is they are trying to energize the base.

the base on the other side will walk through fire, they will walk over glass, they will do just about anything which is why you see so high numbers in states like mine and others in terms of early voting those people are going to vote early and they vote no matter what because they just hate the president. neil: but how is it republicans are saying stuff like this , energizing the base, i'm just curious. oh, i think the case, they want to pushback. they defied the polls four years ago, on november 2, 2016, the marquette university law school poll showed hillary clinton up by six points and yet the president just barely carr ied the state. i think that was a motivator for many in the base and the other key thing i expect the president to talk about today and others on his behalf is this whole issue of talents. many of the undecided voters who will wait to make their decision probably close to or on election day want balance and if they see a democrat president, excuse me, a democrat house, a democrat senate all moving

towards overwhelmingly pushing the bias on the court by stack ing it by adding more members to the united states supreme court and providing a long term imbalance that's an issue of concern to independent voters. neil: governor thank you very much we'll see the president has a busy schedule ahead of him, we'll be reviewing that. ...

>> can he do it again? the president is set to revisit michigan, a state he won by barely 10,000 votes, but it was such a staggering and stunning development election night four years ago that that's when a lot of people saying, you know, he could just pull this off. that was then,s' going into the belly of the beast again. in muskegon county to sort of of get a lay of the land. he only lost that heavily democratic county by about 1 1/2%. keep in mind that barack obama had won it by better than

double digits against john mccain and later mitt romney. so the president then the challenger, turned that around. can he do so again and have a repeat performance? kevin corke is there with the latest. how is it looking for the president's arrival? >> we've been here for a couple of hours and thousands are here hoping to see the president's event later on today. 5:00 rally because we'll have live coverage on fox news. you mentioned something important, the president won michigan in 2016 by a little more than just 10,000 votes and that underscores not only the electoral importance of the state, but obviously the divided political nature of the state as well. and that's why joe biden was just here and that's why the president is back here once again, neil. in fact, this is his fourth trip to michigan this year alone, following last month's stop. that on top of trips by the vice-president and family surrogates like lara trump and others. if you believe the real latest

clear politics poll, the president has a lot of ground to make up, plus 7 in the surveys, ap bears pointing out burg this week in 2016 hillary clinton was up by 11 in the polls and as you pointed out, the president did win michigan. so we'll see if he can once again close the gap down the stretch and earn another victory here. i do think it's very important that he do well in states and in counties like this one, where there are, what we would like to call blue collar democratsment he did pretty well last time. so far he seems to be doing well. we'll see how it turns out. but tonight a rally at 5:00. i'll be here for you. back to you, my friend. neil: thank you, keep piling up those frequent flyer miles, kevin. [laughter]. kevin corke in must began, michigan. got to go, got to go. and here with us a university

president, a dig beal, the university is a big deal. it's going to be hosting the final presidential debate on thursday, and he's pulling out the stops. doctor, very good to have you, thank you for taking the time. how are things looking for the big debate? >> it looks great. i'm not a big deal, but this is a big deal hosting this debate. it's a huge job. neil: it is a huge job. you were prepared for the students on the 21st and 22nd the debate itself on the 22nd. there will be no in-person classes. you've got 700 police to help you out to keep things in order and organize motorcades and you've gotten the i's dotted and cross the t's. we're hopeful if there are protests they'll be peaceful, the secret service runs the show and they're so

professional and so good. plus, our metro city police in the state, they're working together on this and we're experiencing a very positive experience. we did this in 2008 and there were people who came out to express their views, but ain't that america? that's the way it works. neil: it is. you know, we obviously have the controversy on the first debate, doctor, that it got out of control, unwieldy. you're hosting and you're not deciding how it's conducted, i get that and for the nbc moderator kristin walker released issues that are going to come up. and how do you feel about the interruptions and the issues that sort of marred the first debate? how do you think it should be handled? because it's going to be on your, you know, university's reputation as well. >> well, we're counting on the candidates to do what they do.

we know that the presidential debate commission continues to negotiate with the campaigns to work out the details. our country's really special. u2's lead singer bono once said america is a great idea and he said that's what people from other countries like his, ireland, say about it, and he says-- goes on to say it's one of the greatest ideas in human history. we're unique in this country, it's different than any other democracy even in the world. so we're just counting on people to remember they're in charge of this decision, it's up to them and they'll put their best foot forward and let the people choose. that's our job is to create a little playing field and let those ideas be exchanged and let the people decide which one's america. neil: you know, you're the first university president i know who has quoted, you know,

a rock star. >> bono. neil: and i admire that. i do want to think quickly, again, doctor, the virus is still an issue in tennessee as it is in nashville. i believe that masks are mandatory in nashville. are they going to be mandatory in the room and in the university itself? >> again, the debate commission will be issuing the guidelines, but as you probably know, the cleveland clinic is the-- as their advisor and hospital corporation of america headed here in nashville, aca, is our local provider. i'm on the way after this interview to be tested. if i'm going to be in the hall i'll have to be tested again on wednesday. there are some very strict protocols in place to keep everyone safe, to make sure this show goes on and the

details of that will be sort of a game day decision. like so much what's going on in our countries right now with the coronavirus, but my goal-- >> and have to wear masks in the room and the candidates. but the moderator does not, but everyone else, yes, masks required. if they don't, you kick them out? >> i'm not in charge of kicking people out. we'll see ow that goes. neil: it is your university. it is your university. all right. we'll see. >> thank you. well-- >> all right. >> we'll make that the safest place in america during that time. that's our goal. neil: look forward to it, dr. b bob fisher, the host of the presidential debate. we'll be cover that beginning at 8 p.m. and air through the debate as well and the reaction afterwards. the only place you can get for a one-stop reaction not only how the politicals are

responding, but the markets. futures markets and sometimes that's telling and what the world is focused on. i often say that, you think we're kind of into this election ourselves, especially with likely signs of record voting turnout, you should see the play it gets on foreign papers, i read, page one each and every one. and a bit of a pilon on the social media giant dragged before washington to explain themselves. they were already slated to be before the senate commerce committee. the judiciary committee wants to hear from them. mark zuckerberg of facebook and whether they should loose what was granted to him.

john, it's good to have you back. this is one of the rare times where both parties agree these guys have gotten too big for their britches. democrats say they're just too big period. republicans say they're too biased. so where do you think this goes next week? >> good morning, neil. first, i think it's indisputable that twitter is engaging in bias or censorship. can you imagine what would have happened when the new york times released the hacked donald trump tax returns, if the new york times website had been shut down and then the biden campaign had been shut down and anyone who tried to link that new york times story had been blocked by twitter? i think that people would be screaming and jumping up and down and would have been right to. now on the other hand, twitter, facebook, the social media companies, they're private companies, they're not governed by the first amendment. they don't have to provide the

right to free speech. they're allowed to censor if they want to. we don't have to let anybody on our front yard to give the speech of the day if we don't want to. i think by abusing their rights by, i think, abusing the trust of american consumers, going to have that congress and agencies are going to start regulating them. i hate to say it, but one of the great things about america, one the great things about the birth of the internet and its growth here is that the government has had a light hand in regulation which has allowed them to grow quickly. i think the companies are about to kill the golden goose, and they're about to suppress the innovation that gave birth to them in the first place. neil: i wonder with a lot of these guys, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. it's a dumb expression, if you're going to have the cake it's there.

eat it. and the provisions that prevent them from being sued by folks, and if they're not fairly. the democrats argued four years ago, putting up things that was maliciously false and made up. so, what's interesting here, appears to me, both sides are ticked now and both sides want something done. what will that be? >> and a few years ago, remember the fights about net neutrality and section 230 which protects these tech companies from certain kinds of liability, gives them an immunity. democrats have always been more traditionally in favor of regulation, it was conservatives who actually a few years ago were defending these companies. there's a myth that conservatives love big companies. i don't think that's the case. conservatives love free speech and used to see the companies as facilitating freedom, facilitating liberty, but the more they start acting like big brother, the more they start using technology to suppress

freedoms, then you're quite right, conservatives and liberals will meet together on this one and that's a pretty rare thing these days. neil: should it be their role to police content? there's a little about the new york post story the computer store owner why he had it so long and then decided to pass along the copy of the drive e-mail to rudy giuliani. there's an enough out there. i'm not here to criticize this, any more than i am four years ago the information they were pushing that was suspect then. they're arguing it's not their job to police at that content, but invariably put in that role and they're much more likely to police it if it's conservatives who they're watching. >> this is one of the many problems about taking the old concepts that we used to know very well and applying it to this new technology.

the simple way to think of it is, are the companies more like a publisher, more like a newspaper or a distributing, more like a news stand. we don't hold news stands responsible for the things they put and i don't know if kids know what a news stand is. you and i, neil, we know what news stands are. so we don't really-- for now we've been treating the companies like news stands. they're not really responsible for what's up on the shelves. but actually early on in the internet age some courts were saying, maybe the companies are more like publishers. if they were treated like publishers, that would be a blow to them. they'd have to actively engage in the con at the point in time, and they're already doing it as we saw with the story about hunter biden. so that could be the solution that congress and the agencies ends up. i think that would be bad for the tech companies themselves, but they brought it on themselves. neil: you're right.

they have brought it on themselves and now, now they're going to have to some explaining to do. john yoo, thank you, my friend, thanks for the news stand reference and we're a little over the ideal demo. i did mention jack dorsey, he has rescinded that do not retweet this story. he's allowing people who read the stories and the biden, e-mails. who was communicating with whom, but as john indicated, it's probably too late for that. we will have more. 's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right.

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>> all right. as we've been saying, excuse me, the president is off to michigan later on today, a state he won a little more than 10,000 votes. right now the polls show it's a bit more of a challenge for him this go-round. again, who knows? we'll know in a little more

than two weeks. michigan senator democrat debby stabenow joins us. thanks for taking the time. how are you doing. very good to have you. your sense of these polls and whether they're accurate. if they are, joe biden looks to win quite easily, which would reverse the, you know, the paper edge thin advantage that led the way to then candidate trump to become president trump four years ago. what's your feeling in the state right now? >> well, neil, first, it's good to be with you and i will say that the current polling shows consistently that there is a majority support for joe biden. but we're a very independent state. we actually always have been. we're a ticket splitting state so i think it will be a race till the end, but what i hear a lot from folks is that some of

the folks who wanted to give something new a try, somebody like donald trump, now they say, we're just tired of the chaos. it just hasn't worked out the way we wanted it and they are very concerned about a lack of a national plan on covid-19. and they're concerned about how we opened the economy safely and schools safely. and frankly, even before covid-19, we were losing manufacturing jobs in michigan because of the chaotic trade policies and tariffs. and so, i hear from our farmers and the-- quietly, they're not the loud ones, but folks say, gosh, you know, we tried something new and didn't work. and we really are tired of the chaos and the division.

so today-- >> well, you know, senator the president would argue with the manufacturing jobs that that was before the pandemic, but i would be curious how you feel this other issue of the supreme court nomination and you know, the vote this week and possibly by the end of the week in the full senate what she could be on her way to the supreme court in pretty rapid fashion. now, are you a no vote for her as things stand? >> neil, i am. i actually voted no on her for her current position on the circuit bench, primarily because of her writings and views on health care and reproductive choice and a number of other issues, so that hasn't changed for me and i think it's very clear that the president wants her on the bench before the case taking away potentially the affordable

care act comes up one week later and i can tell you in michigan, you know, at least half of the families in michigan have somebody with a preexisting condition and that coverage-- >> in other words. >> would go away if the aca-- >> you understand, senator. you would be a no vote for her. i know where you stand, senator. many of your colleagues saying this can't stand if you get the majority in the election, pack the court and get more jifr justices. joe biden seems to intimate he'll give the decision before the election. >> first, we have to win the election and make sure that we're protecting health care for families and then, frankly, neil, there's a lot to do. the there will be a lot of different discussions going on from my perspective-- >> would you yourself be personally for that? >> at this point in time i'm open to discussions on a whole

wide variety of things. i've not even up to this point taken a position on this because i think the most important thing is to get the right people on the supreme court and to protect people's health care. and frankly, it's a diversion. it's a diversion from what's in front of us. we've not had the vote yet on the supreme court nominee so i'm going to focus on that and then what people in michigan are saying, what in the world are doing, if you can rush through a supreme court nominee why can't you help me? my family, we're out of work and trying to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table and businesses trying to reopen and schools trying to get to reopen safely and families juggling, including my own family how do you do school virtually and the other issues. if they can rush through a supreme court nominee they can rush through help for people that have a tremendous amount of hardships right now. neil: you know, senator, alexandria ocasio-cortez leads

a group of progressive democrats offering advice to joe biden should he win the election and among other things there should be no ceo's in his cabinet, none, not a one. how do you feel about that? >> well, i would have a different view about that, but i will say the great thing about joe biden is that he's listening to a lot of different viewpoints. that's why he will really be a good president. i mean, he really is somebody who respects all views. neil: do you have a problem with ceo's, senator? do you have a problem with ceo's in a cabinet role? >> i support a lot of ceo's that are doing wonderful work. i have a different view from what you are saying is being articulated by some of the members in the house. so i don't share that view and i think that joe biden will do all of our different views and the best thing is, he's going to listen to the doctors and

the scientists and make sure the first thing we're doing is stopping the loss in this country. neil: senator stabenow, thank you for taking the time. debby stabenow, the made a a point of constantly mentioning her yesterday.

>> do you agree with this particular point of justice scalia's view that the constitution does not afford gay people the fundamental right to marry. >> senator feinstein, if i were confirmed you would be getting

justice barrett and not justice scalia. i don't think you should assume because judge scalia voted a certain way that i would, too. neil: and the 5-4 to legalize same sex marriage. chris scalia the son of the late justice, joins us now. your father with a dissent. similar to other dissents that came up before the court and thinking questioning those judge barrett that she felt the same way. she didn't tip her hand, foolish if she did. but that's the prevailing sentiment that she would be against the same sex marriages that have become the law of the land. do you think that's true? >> i don't know. i can't say one way or another about that. the fact is that as you mentioned, it's law of the land and that opens up entirely new,

different questions about what she thinks about the role of precedent, that of which she was asked about quite a bit as well. i know she follows the same basic jurisprudence approach as my father did, originalism, interpreting the constitution and provisions according to their original public meaning and senator feinstein made it sound like my father didn't think the constitution allowed gay people to be married. and that is simply not true. you know, his point in that case is that, you know, the supreme court doesn't mandate that federal law should make that happen or that it's, you know, permissible under federal law. so it's really kind of up to the states. i didn't appreciate though she thought was wonderful in many ways, senator feinstein, i thought she was a little unfair how she framed that question. neil: and the judge's answer,

true to form, a lot of judges how they handle this question, and back and forth, your father most famously back in the 1980's, i mean, you're not going to tip your hand one way or the other, nor should you. but you talked about precedent, chris, and your father looked at precedent in cases well-established, roe vs wade comes to mind, and now extend to the affordable care act, mentioned, and how important was it to your dad, who was very renowned and well-known conservative opinions, and how that shaped up against established precedent, like roe vs wade, like now, in the final frame, the affordable care act and was he open to, you know, tear them apart if need be, but held back if it was sole long and deemed to be so built into our system? >> he tried to balance that and

kind of respect precedent and i'm unfortunately blanking on examples, but he wouldn't toss out very long precedent, but you know, something like roe vs wade, you know, he-- some 20 years after roe vs wade in planned parenthood v casey in the early '90s, he was a vote that would have overturned roe vs wade, for example. and again, contrary to what democrats would have you believe, that would not have outlawed abortion throughout the country, but it again would have made it possible to make states regulate that as they saw fit snoot what what do you think, or what would your dad have thought about what some democrats call this rush to supreme court nomination, and exact revenge if they take the

senate to pack the courts. it was tried once before in 1937 by fdr, didn't work out. what do you make of it? >> my hunch is he thinks-- he would have thought it was a bad idea. and i say that because i think it would just change the role of the court and, you know, we saw kind of what would happen several years ago when harry reed reid got rid of the filibuster and republicans countered in their own way. if democrats pack the court, they can't think that they would have control of the house and senate for the rest of existence. when republicans would have the opportunity they would take advantage of it. i think it's sort of mutually assured destruction, i like to think that the democrats are smarter than that, but they were foolish enough to get -- to do what harry reid did

earlier, so you just don't know. neil: chris scalia, good catching up with you. >> thank you. neil: we'll have an update on the virus. we've seen a serious spike in cases in this country in the last couple of days. that could be just testing though-- or is it? after this. proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference.

>> all right. we're monitoring new york governor andrew cuomo. he's detailing right now how covid is affecting the

so-called hot areas, these hot zones in and around the new york city area, brooklyn and queens, better than -- packed in an area and the spike continues, we understand, we heard from the new york mayor bill deblasio the trend has been better, but the highs off the worse levels. governor cuomo says the schools would have to go to virtual and we'll keep that in mind. i want to go to my colleague and friend in atlanta, on the testing going on. that picks up, that can sometimes give you the spikes in cases you're hearing. there are a lot more people getting tested. charles, what are you hearing? >> that's right, neil, cases are on the rise in at least 44 states around the country. twice this week the united

states reported more than 64,000 daily new cases for the first time since cases peaked in july. outbreaks in the midwest and mountain west are fueling the surge in new cases. public health experts say the people need to be more careful as the winter months approach. >> you can't enter into the cool months of the fall and the cold months of the winter with a high community infection baseline and looking at the map and seeing the heat map, how it lights up with test positivity that is more than 30-plus states is going in the wrong direction. >> as the country grapples with a third surge, the public health officials say there are not enough tests available to keep the virus in check, according to the covid tracking project. the u.s. is testing about 30 million people per month, well

below the 193 million tests the study shows the country would need to keep the virus under control and cvs and walgreens say they will begin offering the same rapid tests sometime in the coming weeks, so the testing situation could become a lot better. neil: charles watson with the update out of atlanta, georgia. and here is something with the fallout of this. theaters that are in a world of hurt. amc could be running out of cash and could be out completely by year end, is now offering a deal you shouldn't refuse. for $99 you can rent one of its theater and watch any movie you want. that's how desperate things are. they're eager to get you in. the guy who had to shut down all of the regal cinemas in america, because that's the reality, and the new movies come and fast, that's now the death nell after this. knell. for so long.

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>> all right, we told you about the spike in cases here in the us of a. 66,000 in the latest and 63,000 the day before. back-to-back numbers we have not seen in many, many months and worse in britain, 16,171 new cases of the virus within 24 hours. that's because they do about 15,650 the prior day. boris johnson is policing a crackdown on restrictions on bars, restaurants the like. this might speed that up a little bit. we'll keep you posted, but this is probably not welcomed news to many businesses that depend on this thing stabilizing and then things opening up. that's certainly not happening in the theater industry whereas i told you before, amc which is quickly running out of cash is maybe pulling a hail mary pass here trying to open up theaters to individuals who want to watch a lot of movies with friends or family members, you can have $99 access to a

theater to watch anything you want, bring the gang, but all of this comes at a time when we've seen regal cinemas shutting down all of their theaters in the united states for the foreseeable future and happening abroad and the guy who runs regal, parent cineworld group. graduate to have you back. unless the virus situation improves, i cannot imagine the fortunes for theaters improve. what do you think? >> look, i think that on one hand we've been authorizing in many countries and including the u.s., the u.k. for more than two months and there were no covid coming out of the cinema and i think with the cinema they're doing well and really the-- safer than many other indoor

activities. on the other hand, we took the decision as long as there are no new movies we're not keeping it open because we prefer to be closed, and it is very very difficult for our team and it's difficult for our customers, but if we need to choose between being open with no new movies, or being closed, i think the right decision for management is to close the cinemas. neil: and let me ask you then, mooky about that, if you don't mind, that all the major-- from warner brothers to the others behind the latest james bond movie, batman movie, the latest "jurassic park" movie pushing back to the middle of next year. can you survive that long without any new movies to show? >> so, first of all, we still

have wonder woman and we have a lot of movies. if you ask me, i see a very reasonable scenario by thanksgiving or maybe for christmas, we will be back up and running and the movies will come. there is another issue of course, and we want this out that without new york, the studios will not allow the releases of big movies anymore and i think that here, you know, we need the support of the governor and his decision to allow us to open and no one is arguing the big success that governor cuomo had fighting covid, but right now, when other indoor activities are allowed, i think that also cinemas should be allowed and once we get new york, we'll get a lineup of movies and then we'll be able to. neil: you should be allowed to do what you do. mooky, keep us posted.

i'm sure a lot, as you say, depends on the big movies coming in. >> everybody waits for the big ones. neil: james bond, 90 years old. that movie, now he's 90. it's got to come out. got to come out. thank you. we'll have a lot more after this.

>> all right. we're just getting an interesting statement from the biden campaign manager saying essentially, hey, guys, in a message to the campaign troops let's not get ahead of our skis. and the reality this race is closer than some punditry would suggest. we remain neck and neck in

arizona, north carolina, polling averages show us just three points ahead. it goes on to say if we learned anything from 2016 we cannot underestimate donald trump or his way to claw into contention in the final days after campaign so they are taking nothing for granted, but given the fact that joe biden isn't doing any campaigning today, while the president is chr crisscrossing the map you have to wonder whether some are mailing in this campaign. and charles payne joins us, checking the money, on that warning by the biden campaign manager, don't get ahead of ourselves, what do you make of that? >> oh, absolutely, neil, in the last hour when i was showing you where we are in some of the battle ground states and the polling numbers specifically i was making that point that in 2016, hillary clinton sort of let her guard down because they were reading these polls and thinking they were so far ahead in crucial states, for example, wisconsin and the president

didn't waste time. he went to wisconsin six times. he knew how important it was and you saw this tiny margin that he won the state by. so the fact that the biden campaign is saying this says that they tried to learn something from last time. having said that, joe biden is 77 years old. i think he's taking the day off today because he needs time to recouperate between the campaign stops he's making and make one tomorrow. they're sort of on to this, onto the fact that the polls may not be right as they were not right last time and i will say this to you, i watch fox news, i don't want msnbc, but i can only imagine what the pundits are saying, it's going to be a landslide win for joe biden and saying, we need to keep something pour pushing as hard as we can on a relative basis until the last second. neil: charles payne, you're on this and by the way, it wasn't so much a biden-harris campaign statement, i was quoting from a campaign memo released a few moments ago.

and having said that, charles, what is your sense where the president is going, the cities he's targeting, the pitch he is making? >> well, first of all, i caught how you said they shouldn't mail it in, right? because of the big time mail-in votes that we've seen so far. a lot of people presume that's going toward biden. president trump we know his playbook and jackie laid it out. 's going to hustle about the same age of biden and not stopping him from putting on the hustle-- a lot of people admire, apolitical people not steeped in democrat or republican, you know, ideology, if you will, but they look up and respect a guy who is going to hop on a plane and go city to city to city and layout his case and it's the same. if you remember back to february of 2020, not far, but just remember back then when blue collar wages were rising at a 15-year pace and many

people had given up on, where unemployment levels for blacks, hispanics were at all-time lows and even right now in the midst of all of this, i talked earlier with you about retail sales, but people should see the spike in new businesses, should see the spike in home ownership, black home owner zip the highest since the third quarter of 2008. hispanic ownership is at the highest level ever. that's the case he's got to make. and a lot of people say he has to be more nuanced, perhaps he should, but sweat equity a something that a lot of apolitical people admire and pollsters can never capture. neil: the difference is you have to win over demographics and groups that left you or at least their support is worry for you, or should be, and that's women more importantly. and jackie, there's a protest going on in washington, a women's protest march where they are raising these issues

that this president has not been good to them, not been beneficial to them. i think we have some video of this, guys, if we can share that with people, trust me, it is and they are. these are the groups coming out in droves, we're told not just for protests, but they make a large bulk of early voting and that that is a big, big differentiator this time than last time. do you buy that? >> i do buy that. it's something to think about, but remember, you know, that the comments that came out from president trump from the access hollywood tapes, for example, before the election. a lot of people said that that would completely do him in with women and as a matter of fact, it didn't. a lot of women did come out to support president trump within the election and they voted for him. he may have a little bit more of a hard time there, but, you know, this time around, but i would say, women are getting more jobs. their wages are increasing. they've seen opportunities as a result of this. for the pictures we're showing we can show rallies in other

states where women have come out to support donald trump and feel that he's done a good job for them. neil: you know, the markets have been, you know, all over the map, but we do put, charles, three state weeks in a row of market gains mere. what are the markets telling you? what do you tell your viewers? >> yeah, i think that the market, there's a few components to it, right? one are the companies that will do extraordinarily well no matter who is elected and that will be some of the main drivers of the world, googles, the amazons of the world and some reflects the fact that the consumer and businesses are doing far better than anyone thought they would. it's reflected in the market and then, i think there's other parts of this economy and the market that thinks, well, they'll do well no matter who is the president and i've got to tell you, i think that 2021 is huge for anyone elected and if it's biden, he could benefit greatly from what is established because his tax policies, the most onerous ones

won't go into effect until 2022. neil: all right, final word, charles, thank you and the beautiful library behind you and the handsome guy in those books. most people will be happy to be done with 2020 period. fox news continues. . have a great weekend. ovated t, so you can live with us. i'm good at my condo. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.

>> three events yesterday. two today for president trump as he crisscrosses america and ends up in las vegas this evening. welcome to america's news headquarter and no it's not an optical illusion. surprise. leland: we're here today. great to have you back. >> you, too, i forgot what you looked like only saw you through the monitor, great to be back. we're six feet, maybe a little bit, six feet and change in part we're healthy and cross that off the list and we're just ready to get going, right. leland: feels good. nice to beit