there was no crime there. nothing to even investigate. so this is a major issue for millions of people in this country. and the media wants to pretend it's not happening for the most part. jillian: sorry to cut you short. we are out of time. our show stops in 3 seconds. "fox & friends" starts now. >> we can't lock ourselves up in the basement like joe does. these are businesses that are dying. you can't do that to people. >> we are about to go into a dark winter. a dark winter. and he has no clear plan. >> i don't make money from china. you do. i don't make money from ukraine. you do. >> what he is accusing me of is a russian plant. what he is saying is a bunch of garbage. >> you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia hoax? >> the fact of the matter is there is institutional racism in america. >> he has been in government in 47 years he never did a thing except in 1994 he called them super predators. nobody has done more for the black community than donald trump. >> i have a transition from the

oil industry, yes. > what he is going to say is he going to destroy the oil industry. will you remember that texas? will you remember that pennsylvania? what about fracking? >> i have never said i oppose fracking. be in a position where we are going to see to it. steve: that's where we would normally put music. look at that, folks, 11 days before the election. it is friday, october 23rd. and, ladies and gentlemen, on this friday, we have been waiting for the final debate and last night we saw it. but, 90 minutes before it, we met this guy by the that name y bobulinski. he is the october surprise. brian, i wish we had more to talk about today. brian: sorry. run yesterday show. stick with the debate that happened last night that ended about nine minutes ago. so important when the bobby bobulinski penn state wrestler spent 37 years in the military and left a decorated officer

divided to have a press conference with three cell phones and three text messages and emails i looked at it and fascinated by it taking notes. let me see what cnn and msnbc is running. nothing. they were going through some map of electoral processes that they could have put out three weeks ago. they don't want to cover a legitimate story but we'll go over that. ainsley: yeah. he showed those text messages and some of them are shocking we will talk about this morning. he was a guest of the president's at the debate. kid rock was also there in the audience. steve: with john daly. ainsley: that's right. john daly the golfer. hand it over to pete hegseth nashville having breakfast with friends at redneck rivera john rich's place. pete: that's right redneck rivera. in nashville the party never ends. what time is it 10:00 p.m. or 4:00 a.m.? it's 5:00 a.m. here. this great crew came out for us this morning talk to them. if it's nashville, is this better?

[applause] you got to do it right when in rome or nashvilleians, who here watched the debate last night? [cheers and applause] pete: i'm going to ask you a two part question. who thinks joe biden won the debate last night? oh, that's a lot of silence, guys. who thinks president trump won the debate last night? [cheers and applause] and, you know, whoever showed up got. in so we're glad these folks are here and we are going to talk to them all morning long about last night's debate, guys. it was different than the first one. we all saw that. but a lot of people feel a lot more effective and substantive and the president certainly brought the heat. >> the father will keep going all morning as long as you want to come to us we will bring you the thoughts of the folks this morning. brian: pete hegseth coming off fox nation post game show which you were able to see last night. good job. pete: thank you. steve: if you were just waking up with the highlights. here is griff jenkins. hey, griff.

griff: hey, steve, ainsley and brian, good morning. we seemed to have traded the cleveland chaos for music city manners i'm not sure if it was the mute button,-month-old der rarity or what the candidates came in and gave a much clear calmer closing argument of where they stood on policy issues and it began with the coronavirus. watch. >> why have a vaccine that's coming. it's ready it's going to be announced within weeks. it's going to be delivered. we have operation warp speed which the military is going to distribute the vaccine. this is the same fellow who told you don't ready we will end this by the summer. we are about to go into a dark winter. a dark winter. he has no clear plan and there is no prospect that there is going to be a vaccine for the majority of the american people before the middle of next year. >> foreign policy which wasn't billed as a topic took center stage in light of the breaking

news. >> emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money you were raking, in you and your family. joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening and it should have never happened. and i think you owe an explanation to the american people. >> i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. we learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in china, has a secret bank account with china. does business in china. >> while did was civil they brawled over the economy, climate change and race relations. >> not since abraham lincoln has anybody done what i have done for the black community. i'm the least racist person in this room. >> abraham lincoln here is one of the least racist presidents we have had in modern history. >> where did that come in. >> in the end american people got a clearer picture of where they stand. what's unclear is how it is going to impact the election just 11 days away because nearly

50 million americans have already voted. that's roughly a third of the total vote count in 2016. on the campaign trail though, both candidates hitting it, although biden remains in his hometown of wilmington giving a speech. president trump florida two rallies later today. brian, ainsley, steve? ainsley: good deal. thank you so much. many people are talking about the moderator. we were all watching to see how it was going to be, if the mute button was going to be used. i thought kristen welker did a wonderful job. people did interrupt a lot. you will read that in articles. she did ask joe biden about hunter and the overseas dealing if anything unethical happened and joe biden said no. she did interrupt president trump 111 times. steve: what? ainsley: and joe biden 22 times. brian: wow that is a stark difference. i could not believe it was 111. i thought it was a lot less. she was all over him. but i will say, this at least wee had a chance to see both sides talk.

they were much more respectful of each other and the president just knocked it out of the park. here is an example of when the president was stopped in his tracks. >> 11,000 people in nursing homes. >> president trump what about. >> when you say spike, i already prepaid it. >> did your accountant tell you when you could release them. >> like a vacuum player. >> okay president trump we will move on. >> millions of people would be dead right now. >> okay. president trump that's 30 seconds. thank you. >> having a good relationship. >> president trump, we have to move on. >> it's a good thing. >> we have a lot of questions to get to. >> i understand we have a good relationship with hitler before he, in fact, invaded. >> all right. let's move on. i'm going to move on. mr. president trump i have to move onto the next question. >> they remember that you treated them very, very badly. just take a look what's happening out there. >> vice president biden let me give you a chance to respond. brian: i said this last night i had to quickly change my 11th grade social studies final i didn't think we were getting along with hitler until i heard

joe biden say it. that was one of the crazy nest analogies i think hitler was troendly sadly on twitter. kristen welker bankrupting. she did interrupt joe biden a little bit. listen to this montage. >> to make sure people have the capacity. >> you haven't ruled out more shutdowns? >> no. that is simply not true. >> we're going to talk about immigration. we're going to talk about immigration now. we're running out of time so we have got to get on to climate change please. >> no fracking and oil on federal land. >> let me ask this final question in this section. >> okay. so, ainsley, to your point. a lot of people are talking about the interrupterring. and when chris wallace was moderating last time the two participants were very interrupt tri so he had a much tougher job. she did a very good job, i think keeping on track. so many times she said we have a lot of questions to get. to say so many of us just wanted to hear some answers.

instead of it was more of she was keeping everything going according to the schedule which is great but, nonetheless, a little unsatisfactorying in the fact that there were so many interruptions. ainsley: chris wallace says he was jealous because they interrupted so much in that first debate they learned their lessons and did didn't do it in this one. steve: it was better for both the candidates. ainsley: absolutely. before the debate a former business associate of hunter biden as we were talking about earlier he spoke out saying he directly worked with both hunter biden and joe biden and he has proof. >> i have heard joe biden say he has never discussed business with hunter. that is faults. i have firsthand knowledge about this because i directly dealt with the biden family, including joe biden. i have no wish to bury anyone. i have never been political, but what i am is a patriot and a veteran. ainsley: tony bobulinski is the

former ceo of cinema hawk holdings and retired lieutenant. he shared text messages with fox fox news. brian: bobulinski discusses getting dinner with hunter's uncle and joe biden with chinese documents with hunter allegedly responding that his dad is not in until 11. >> another text hunter's business partner james gillier tells bobulinski don't mention joe being involved. it's only when you are face to face. i know you know that but they are paranoid. nevertheless. kristen did not bring it up per se in the beginning instead the president did. >> all of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. and, joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening. and it should have never happened. and i think you owe an explanation to the american people. >> i have not taken a penny from

any foreign source ever in my life. the foreign countries are paying you a lot. russia is paying you a lot. china is paying you a lot. >> i don't make money from china. you do. i don't make money from ukraine. you do. i don't make money from russia. you made $3.5 million, joe. but you are the big man, i think. have to give 10% to the big man. joe, what's that all about? steve: big guy. apparently tony and hunter had a falling out when hunter wanted $5 million from the $10 million that the chinese energy company sent to them and tony said that it could not be hunter's personal piggy bank and that, ainsley, is when their business deal apparently went kaput. brian: let me just add this. all we needed is. this joe biden answer this question at some point. is it hunter's laptop? here's the receipt with hunter's signature on it. is that hunter's signature?

and the minute he says yes if he is being honest, goodbye distraction of rudy and bannon and hello fbi picked it up and hunter dropped it off. that is the key. that's what is so maddening about this. other networks have pretending it didn't happen. they are blaming it on rudy and bannon and destruction. steve: russia, russia, russia. brian: russia is a joke. please tell me have you more integrity than that. hunter dropped it off to be fixed. he left it there to be fixed. the fbi picked it up analyze it and that's been confirmed. ainsley: if people ask you about this try to change the subject. did he try to change. it's not about my family and trump family it's about your family. yours at home. you can't get those new tires. you have to wait a little while. you have to tell your daughter she can't go back to community college. the president said hold on you were in office for 8 years you could have changed so many things that you are complaining about all these different policies. you had your chance he said that's exactly why i ran for

office. i was not a politician what you are trying to do is political. you are trying to change the subject to get off of china and stop looking at your family. steve: right. one other thing anelsly about this tony bobulinski guy he today will apparently be in washington and start speaking to senator ron johnson homeland security committee. brian: yes. steve: ed, you can't see right here, but he has got -- perfect timing he picks up one of three cell phones. he said these are the cell phones that have the what's what's app. on them and things like that. it's proof. it will be interesting to see what the biden campaign says today if anything. because, when you click around and when you google it, hardly anybody is touching this story. brian: so the audience and the country is being manipulated and that's historic. i wil -- horrific: the vindmanm

secretary of defense job ukraine. those same people are being critical or ignoring or pushing aside this decorated 37 year marine. so you can't have it both ways although you are choosing. to say meanwhile the little problem with obamacare. you can't keep your doctor if you want to keep your doctor. and you can't keep your plan if you want to keep your plan we forgot about that. joe biden says this about that. >> the idea that i want to eliminate private insurance -- the reason why i had such a fight for -- with 20 candidates for the nomination was, i support private insurance. that's why i didn't -- not one single person in private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under obamacare. brian: real quick, wrong. fact check, 4.7 million lost their healthcare plans under obamacare. now, with biden care, we are going to get a public option, which is kind of interesting. a public option some people

might want that don't pretend that's not the beginning or another step towards socialized medicine. that's how you define it. that's how everyone defines it. that's why president obama avoided it. biden's doing and it pretending it doesn't head us that direction. maybe america wants that but don't pretend that you are defining it differently now. we all remember this debate. ainsley: so, brian, he said no one lost their health insurance. that's debunked. more than 4 million did. i was watching karl rove. he said i just got an email from a guy in america said i lost mine. my wife lost hers. it's a fact. 4 million plus lost their health insurance. so, he was lying about that. and then when it came to fracking, i was blown away at the fact he said i have never been opposed to fracking. the president says you said it. it's on tape. it's been played so much you are flip-flopping. biden says show the tape put it on your social media aptiond the president did. listen to what joe biden said first last night about fracking. >> we're going to have the

greatest economy in the world. if you want to kill the economy, get rid of your oil industry. you want -- and what about fracking? >> all right. let me allow vice president biden to respond. >> i have never secretary of defense i oppose fracking. >> you said it on tape. >> i did -- show the tape. >> would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking in a biden administration? >> no. we would -- we would work it out. we would make sure it's eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those: i guarantee you, i guarantee you we are going to end. >> no new fracking. >> there is no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. >> i am not, not, not banning fracking, period. >> i make it clear, i do not propose banning fracking. >> joe biden will not ban fracking. that is a fact. ainsley: when i heard him last night i thought he is telling a fib. is he lying about that. what else is he lying about.

then he went on to talk about the oil industry. he wants to replace it with renewable energy. did you hear that remember that texas,pennsylvania, oklahoma and ohio. it's going to kill millions of jobs. steve: speaking of pennsylvania. sean parnell is running for congress in pa 17 he is retired infantry captain and congressional candidate. he was giggling through that whole thing. good morning to you, sean. >> good morning, everybody. how are you all doing? steve: we are doing okay. we got to figure the trump people are cutting a commercial right now talking about the fracking thing where joe biden said that but, also, and maybe this is bigger because it impacts 10 million american jones. listen to what ainsley was alluding to what joe biden said he would like to do next if president. >> i would transition from the oil industry, yes. i would transition. >> that's a big statement. >> it is a big statement. >> why would you do that. >> because the oil industry pollutes significantly. here's the deal. >> that's a big statement. >> if you let me finish the

statement because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. over time. and i would stop giving to the oil industry. i would stop giving them federal subsidies. >> that may be the biggest statement in terms of business that's the biggest statement. >> okay we have one final question. >> he is basically saying he is going to destroy the oil industry. will you remember that texas. >> okay. >> will you remember that texas, oklahoma. steve: sean, will pennsylvania remember that? >> yes. yes. in fact pennsylvania remember what it was like under 8 years of under barack obama and joe biden when the state lost over 51,000 jobs because devastating economic policies. this is what sort of blows my mind about joe biden is that he tries to have it both ways. first of all he said probably 50 times in the primary that he was in favor of banning fracking or phasing out fossil fuels and then in the general election when he comes to pennsylvania and says oh, yeah, no frac something fine. in the debate last night he said frac something fine. but then he goes on the record

later and says he is going to phase out the oil industry. i mean, it's just unbelievable. you clearly can't have it both ways. the oil and gas industry in pennsylvania is the center peels of our economy. in my district alone, in western pennsylvania, 117,000 jobs work in and around the oil and gas industry. you get rid of fracking, and you phase out oil, you are going to devastate our communities at a time where people need the work, you know. i never thought that i would see food line unless my district but i do. so we should be unshack ling our economy. not talking about phasing out entire sectors. brian: locking down again when cases are going up when we have to learn to live with this not run and hide from this. we see the devastating effect. the problem with sean parnell while jake tapper asked you to not run in that district going against so-called conor lamb. a story in the "wall street journal" today talking about the myth of moderate democrats. what do you mean myth of moderate democrats? what did you discover about that

district that makes you feel as though a republican can be successful again? >> i will tell you first off the bat people forget had pa 17 existed in 2016, president trump would have won this district by over 10,000 votes. center pat toomey won the strict in 2016 by over 17,000 votes. this is imminently winnable district. i'm glad that the "wall street journal" and bill mcgurn put that article out. conor lamb did a case strudy in contrast a prime example of somebody who says one thing in district and does another thing in washington. for example, said he was going to be pro-gun. today he has an f rating from the nra. campaigned around the entire district and said he was going to be pro-life and votes against the born alive act not once but twice. first thing he said in 2018 look forward to supporting the trump supporters. few months later he votes typically beach the president. said he was going to oppose pelosi. votes 93% of the time. he was going to be independent moderate voice in pennsylvania. votes with ilhan omar and aoc

over 90% of the time. ladies and gentlemen, that's not an independent moderate voice. took fraternal order of police endorsendorsements in 2018 saids going to defend the police. two years later marchs with defund the police radicals. i could go on and on and on. but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat out there. they might play one in the district but they act different in washington and end up toeing the line with nancy pelosi's radical agenda. that's why we have to take back the house to get this country back on the right track. work with the president on the things that will make this country truly great over the next four years after he wins in november. ainsley: all right. sean, what will you do for your constituents? >> well, i mean, i'm working every day to be there for them. that's what leaders do. we show up. part of my -- when i win in november. i'm going to work to rebuild this economy and renew the american way of life. keep taxes low for everybody. remove regulatory barriers for businesses to make sure that pennsylvania and western pennsylvania can be one of the most prosperous places on the fails of the planet. when our kids graduate from

college in western pennsylvania. we have got five division one schools here. they leave because we don't have the jobs here in western pennsylvania to sustain them. they go to places like los angeles, nashville, new york. i want those people to say here. i want our kids to stay here so that western pennsylvania families can have sunday dinner with their families like did i and had a parole found impact on my life. i want to be a warrior for the oil and gas industry. because every time you turn around, there is some radical leftist trying to take their job. i want to have a good, innovative plan for healthcare. you know, the g.o.p. has great healthcare plans but one of the things that we promise that we are going to do is always protect people with pre-existing conditions. i'm excited to have the opportunity to truly represent the people here. not just republicans but everyone. even democrats who take a chance on me to vote for me balls, you know, when i was in the army and i was in afghanistan. i led irving, every race, creed and religion. it didn't matter what political party you were in.

it didn't matter what god you worshipped. it was my job to bring those people together and lead them in one of the most hostile places on the face of the planet. that's exactly what i'm going to do when i win here in november is bring this district together and fight for everybody. and i have to tell you i'm so excited to do it. ainsley: all right. sean parnell running for congress. thanks so much, sean. good to see you. thanks to your service for our country. we did invite conor lamb the guy he is running against to come on our show as well but his team never responded to us. jillian has more headlines for us. jillian: the illegal immigrant charged with murdering a houston police sergeant is due in court today. elmer manzano could face the death penalty if convicted. he is accused of shooting and killing 41-year-old department veteran harold preston. a second officer was shot in the arm. the police chief says she is recovering after a successful surgery. the fda has approved remdesivir as the first drug to treat covid-19. a study by the national institute of health found it cut the recovery time from 10 to 15 days down to just five.

president trump was treated are remdesivir when he contracted the virus earlier this month. the drug will be available for anyone with covid-19 over the age of 12. cities are suing the trump administration over its threat to pull federal funding. new york city, seattle, and portland, oregon, filed the suit after the justice department labeled them anarchist jurisdictions that could have their funding slashed. the cities are asking a federal court to dropped doj label and stop the administration from withholding money claiming it doesn't have authority without the approval of congress. the cities were deemed anarchist last month after turning down help from federal law enforcement. to some football now. carson wentz leading the east 40 quarter come back to beat the rival giants on thursday night football. >> pass is caught. touchdown, boston. >> philadelphia scoring last

five minutes. the defense forcing jones to fumble on the giant's last chance drive so eagles take this one 22-21. and i did not see a second of it. brian: i saw a comprehensive highlight package. incredible run by daniel jones. the giants are a little bit away and with two wins i think they are now the favorite to win that terrible division. ainsley: it's awful. brian: 2, 4, 1. thanks so much jillian we will talk more about this in the break i promise. reopening the country to fracking flip flop voters react to last night's show down. polster lee carter working the dials. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators

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brian: debate moderator kristen welker drawing praise keeping candidates to their time even if that meant cutting them off. >> i prepaid it. nobody told me that. >> did you your accountant tell you when you release them. >> excuse me that is simply not true. >> we are going to talk about immigration. >> son, his brother and other brother are getting rich. they are like a vacuum cleaner. >> okay, president trump thank you. we do not. >> not true. no fracking or oil on federal land. >> let me ask you this final question in this section. ainsley: joining us to react is media reporter for the hill joe con challenge. good morning, joe. >> good morning, ainsley. ainsley: how did you grade the moderator? >> i think she got universal

praise because we saw a debate kept on the rails. the candidates helped in that regard. to seemed that president trump and joe biden got the message that interrupt something i will ill advised thing that doesn't help your argument. when the candidates behave the moderator looks good. where i had an issue and we spoke about this earlier in the week in terms of the actual issues that were discussed during this that were picked going in and sceefd big issue. can you argue maybe it's the biggest issue. again we didn't hear too much in terms of the contrast on economy. we also missed and i'm just going through my notes here as far as this is concerned. we didn't hear anything on education. and that seems to be a foreign word these days during debates. during town halls. it's as if it doesn't exist. the opioid crisis is worse than ever, guys. it was already bad going into this year. descrents spiked. and that's something that obviously the president has been focused on as well. the supreme court is amy coney

barrett getting most likely or definitely, you can say, nominated not nominated added to the supreme court just next week. so, with all that said. i think we just miss a lot of opportunities in terms of things that people actually care about in terms of we saw summer of crime on our tv screens throughout the entire summer. that wasn't discussed as well. i think when we talk about trump's taxes or hunter biden, the american people aren't being served by issues that they care about and they really talk about at those dinner tables that joe biden talked about so much last night. steve: indeed. joe, going in. the number one topic of commentators was there is going to be a mute button. so, if anybody tries to interrupt the other that's not going to work. was that a deterrent? is that ultimately what kept both candidates on the rails? >> i think the reviews that the president trump got in the first debate primarily, that kept him on the rails.

so, did the mute button say okay you are not going to be able do anything. don't bother jumping in you will see a mouth moving with no words coming out of it. perhaps. again we talked about this yesterday. joe biden interrupted paul ryan in 201282 times during that debate and they didn't make any structural changes after that debate commission. did it help? i guess. i think more it was everybody got the message that don't interrupt because you are just going to look bad doing it. brian: joe, you are right. the topics were repeats. chris wallace said we are doing climate change and racial. economy wasn't discussed when bob gates have you been wrong on every major issue for 40 years. that's the guy who is going to be president? meanwhile the tax stuff is old news. it still doesn't stop the "new york times" from writing about it a few weeks ago and waiting for the right time to hurt trump the most. this stuff is brand new news about hunter biden and exbusiness partner who says this guy has been behind my back taking millions of dollars.

i'm fed up in telling the truth. who just happens to be a 37-year veteran and decorated marine. the rest of the media is ignoring this story and it's stunning. watch. >> talking about the biden's personal corruption a little bit about hunter biden. most of those charges unverified. >> charges so heinous i'm not even going to say them. just nonsense with no evidence. just completely made up. >> complete fabrications and falsehoods. has very little evidence behind it. >> the nastiest, ugliest smear campaign online. >> desperation. >> taps desperation move. >> if you don't follow it closely you probably don't quite understand what the hit is. >> if you are not immersed in right wing media. >> and we are cable hosts. >> and we don't know the details. >> what are they talking about? i don't know. some laptop. >> no one knows the details of these conspiracy theories. brian: okay. your witness. first, take that on. >> okay. my hair hurts so i will try to speak through that look,

something stays unverified when you don't try to verify it in any capacity and all those news organizations that you just showed have shown no interest whatsoever in going after the story so it stays unverified when no one tries to verify something. meanwhile three years of russia collusion with trump officials those networks you just showed were happy to feature that on hourly almost minute by minute basis. don't lecture us about don't push conspiracy theories when you pushed one for three years yet won't pursue this story where there seems to be tangible items coming out on a daily basis nemples yeah, this is a story as bret baier said on this network yesterday. brian: seems to be? this is a huge story. they are going to be forced to pay attention to it, i hope. ainsley: joe, thank you so much. steve: we will see. >> we will see guys. got to go halloween costume shopping. brian: do your virtual halloween because it's too dangerous. ainsley: have a great weekend, joe. >> all right. thank you. take care. ainsley: joe biden talking about his strategy to contain

covid-19, watch. >> do not open bars. and do not open gymnasiums. do not open until you get this under control. under more control. ainsley: lee carter has dials coming up. plus pete hegseth is having breakfast your friends at the redneck rivera bar in nashville. we will check in with him coming up next. ♪ ♪ strong relief for your severe symptoms.

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president. you keep talking about all these things you are going to do and you are going to do. this you there just a short time ago and you guys did nothing. joe he ran because you of i ran because of barack obama you did a poor job. ainsley: lee? >> can you see this really resonated with republican voters and independent side. republicans red line gave a plus. independenting the yellow line a b while democrats gave this an f nod surprising how democrats responded. independents are going to be key to this election donald trump very smart i think it's something that resonated. ainsley: here is joe biden on the lock downs. watch this. >> you haven't ruled down more shut junes. >> no. i'm not shutting down today, look, need standards. the standards is if you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level. everybody says slow up do not

open until you get under control. ainsley: conservatives did not like that. >> they sure did not. democrats really support this message. they gave it a minus. independents a c, republicans an f. the bottom line is this. conservatives do not want the economy to shut down or slow down. they want us to be responsible but they want this to be up to states and individuals. independents also really really wanted an answer on this they want to know what going to do. not a strong answer they were looking for. one of the defining issues of this election. ainsley: all right. so a lot of people are talking about joe biden fracking response. how he said he never opposed it. watch this one. >> never said i opposed fracking. >> you said it on tape. >> show the tape. put it on your website. >> i will put it on. >> put it on your website. the fact of the matter is flat

lying. >> would you rule out banning fracking. >> i do rule out banning fracking. we need other industries to transition to get to only a complete zero emission by 2025 not sure what's going on with thap he said never not true. >> this one was really fascinating to watch. can you see democrats even not resonating with this one they gave it a c, republicans gave it an n. overall a cup issues with this. a a lot of people remember. he needs to be more honest and forthcoming about it. people want to know where joe biden stands. they want to know what he is all about. this doesn't build that kind of credibility other issue you can see here get to zero emissions by 2025 it lacks credibility and people had questions about that. this was not a good moment for joe biden and i think this is one that is going to be a problem for him.

ainsley: all right. lee, thank you so much of course great to see you. ainsley: good to see you too. president trump and joe biden issues issues in their final debate before november 3rd. steve? steve: check in with pete hegseth at the redneck rivera and pete is wearing a hat. pete: that's right. good morning. when in nashville do -- is it nashvilleians? this is john rich's spot here the redneck rivera i think john could throw a party any time he wants. there were people here at 3:00 a.m. if john rich says be here, be here. one of the most fun things about the day after a debate is just chatting with folks around the room we will do that now. amy, appreciate it. simple question though. trick question this morning. what's your big take away from the debate last night. >> great debate what america needs to see. i think our president represented america in a way everybody wants to see and i think we are winning.

>> you think the president was the winner last night? >> i do. >> any big moments that stuck out with you? >> the economy obviously. a businessman. i think that's part of why america loves him so much. >> american certainly a big subject last night. erin, your thoughts what did you think of last night? >> i really like that he called biden out on the whole wash russia and his son we need an answer on that. is he talking about the economy. we can't stay closed. we have to stay open. we have to figure this out and work through it. pete: two huge contrasts here you are exactly right. one point $48 million spent on bob mueller and the 18 angry democrats found nothing. if i had $1 million i would find everything on you. that was a big line. fear over opening big aspect as well. sir what is your name? >> mitch. >> what did you think of last night? >> work was before the debate. he has delivered on all his promise us set him up to articulate. that's what he did a great job of. articulating especially to

independents with, you know, crime zones work that he has done. with the opportunity zones. i think really showed a contrast. >> 47 months and 47 years and talks about his background. what did you think? >> i enjoyed seeing trump's love of country and sincerity for the american people i thought that was contrasted with ensign sater and speaking to the camera. that really shined. pete: that wasn't a good moment. that's what the politicians do they look at you and say we are around the kitchen table now. i thought that was a pretty good one. move over here. thank you for your service. air force and marine. [cheers and applause] pete: you can do that. real quick, running out of time. what was your take away from last night. >> the fact that the debate seemed to be, the american people could get something out of it. it seemed to be more organized. a little more professional. it wasn't just two guys going at it. the american people were

actually able to get something out of this debate, i feel like. pete: last word real quick. >> the moderator i think she did a fantastic job this time. pete: there we go. a few more interruptions to the president we noted than of joe biden last night's debate. but i digress. fair point. good point. >> and a good pointed from a marine, too. thank you, guys, back to new york city. we will keep talking to the folks all morning long. [applause] steve: thank you very much. a quarter before the hour. time for news. hey, jillian. jillian: begin with this story. andy beshear demands everything is release from the grand jury proceedings in brianna taylorens case. calling on state attorney daniel cameron to share all information after a second grand juror criticizes the handling of the case. the juror says the panel was not allowed to consider homicide charges against the police officers who served the no knock warrant on that taylor was shot and killed. north carolina republicans want

the absentee deadline moved up. officials are calling for the supreme court to block lower rulings allowing a nine day extension for mail-in ballots. the trump campaign and republican leaders say the north carolina's board of elections recently altered the deadline from november 6th to the 12th. the board has until saturday to respond. bernie sanders appears to be eyeing a role in a potential biden administration. politico reports the vermont senator is pushing to be the labor secretary. sanders did not confirm or deny interest in the role telling politico is he only focused on getting biden elected. former presidential hopeful plans on pushing biden to quote include progressive voices in his cabinet. and how about this? this holiday's hesitat holiday k healthcare. first ambulance in the toy's 56 year tradition. features 96 lights and four sirens. hess designs its trucks in advance releasing an ambulance

during the pandemic is actually coincidence. the ambulance and rescue set is now available. that's cool. send it back to you. steve: we have a complete set at our house every christmas. ainsley: good christmas present. thank you, jillian. joe biden says he will create a bipartisan system to study court system. jeremy hunt says that's just a move to avoid court packing questions until after the election. he is going to join us next. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids become a member. get an insurance quote today. she always wanted her smile to shine. now, she uses a capful of therabreath healthy smile oral rinse to give her the healthy, sparkly smile she always wanted. (crowd cheering) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores.

i can't. there's never been more divisiveness in this country. it's frightening and sad. that was trump's whole thing, you know, take the politics out of it and run it like one of his businesses. i know people were looking for that kind of change, but it's not working. you know, we've only gotten more in debt, we have this virus now out of control, people out of work, no healthcare. how is that helping people? we need someone that knows what they're doing, and i think it's biden. i know he will listen to the experts. that's what we need. i trust him 100% to get this under control. he has the capability to bring us back together. i'm joe biden, and i approve this message.

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brian: president trump calling out joe biden for being a career politician and not getting anything on criminal justice reform. saying the former administration was so inept that's why he ran for office. >> why didn't he get it done? see, it's all talk and no action with these politicians. why didn't he get it done? that's what i'm requesting to do when i become president. witbut you were there just a sht time ago and you guys did nothing. you know, joe. i ran because of you have. brian: did that resonate at home army veteran yale law student now out of the army after graduating west point jeremy hunt. jeremy, great to see you again. what's your reaction to that, what the president just said. >> well, it's great to be on with you again, brian. good morning. you know, that clip is actually one of my favorites from the debate. it is so crystal clear how the

stark differences between both candidates. you have trump asking joe biden so, you know, how are you going to get things done and then later on joe biden says oh, well, you know, we had a republican legislature so we couldn't get anything done. well, you have to convince people. and that's actually what we want from our political leaders. the people that are able to convince people and look at the other side. and so if you look at joe biden's record over 47 years, he has been in public office. what have you actually gotten done? what are you known for in the only thing we can honestly look through his record and see is a 1994 crime bill. of course he didn't want to touch it during the debate. but at some point we're going to have to talk about it. because there are people who frankly look like me who are still incarcerated, our nations prisons because of the decision that joe biden has made back then. 26 years ago. brian: saying i was wrong. and the thing do you with criminal justice reform that was our plan. well, you didn't pass it. other thing, he had 60 votes in the senate and the house when he

took over. so i have no sympathy for him get it done. by the way, the president had to go against his party in many circles to do criminal justice reform. that's called getting it done. something else happened. joe biden sat down with "60 minutes," you will see it sunday. they released a clip on court packing. you are a law student now. listen to this. >> if elected, what i will do is i will put together a national commission of bipartisan commission of scholars. and i will ask them to over 180 days come back to me with recommendations as to how to reform the court system. because it's getting out of whack. brian: simpson-bowles for the supreme court. can't wait to see what they come up with. >> i mean, this is just so ridiculous. it's clearly a not so subtle way hey, vote for me and then later on i will make a decision on what you actually want to do about the courts. it's such ridiculous way to go about it. that's not how politics works.

we need to know what your position is on the issues. unfortunately every single time is he asked a question about this we get more of the same kind of sliding from point to point avoiding answering the question when the american people want to know what are we to expect and i'm telling you right now these are real ideas. court-packing is not some thought experiment. this is actually real policy this many people on the radical left want to see done and wants to bring to bear on our country. executive branch shouldn't be reorganizing the judicial branch. that's not okay. i'm stunned by that statement. 38% of the american people want to see it done. the rest don't. last question, black lives matter. the president said i have a problem with the organization. not with black lives matter the statement. is that a problem for you? >> >> i think it's very important that all americans, and we can all say black lives matter, we can say that as a country. we can say that with conviction. but the organization is actually a trojan horse for something that has nothing to do with

black lives. they're a trojan horse for socialism. go to website want to destroy the nuclear family. they might have taken some of that down now. that's the rhetoric they have been talking about for years. it's actually much deeper than just, you know, the statement black lives matter it. is actually an organization that seeks to implement a lot of policies that will end up harming black lives. and then you can't talk about black lives without talking about black lives in the womb and black lives matter from conception to death. black lives should matter. and so this idea that we're going to have an organization that's going to have talk about all sorts of other things is not helpful. brian: all right. yale is lucky to have you, jeremy. thanks so much. appreciate it. next hour trace morgan geraldo rivera and trey gowdy. incomparable design makes it beautiful.

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that come in i got justice reform prison reform. opportunity zones. i'm the least racist person in this room. >> what is on the ballot here is the character of this country. >> don't give me the stuff about how you are this innocent baby. joe, they are calling you a corrupt politician. i ran because of you. because did you a poor job. i was born free ♪ i was born free. ainsley: the president kept reminding america last night this is why he is in office because joe biden had a chance for 8 years. 47 years serving our country in office down in washington. no interruptions which was great. we'll could actually hear their points of view and the president was very calm and i thought it was a great debate. i thought the moderator overall did a good job. brian: big story kid rock was in the audience he was just singing right now. ainsley: that's the headline? brian: there he is. steve: there is john daly. brian: socially distanced.

16 and john daly didn't. steve: they were told, you guys, the masks are down have you got to put them up. they put them up. brian: put them down and took that picture. ainsley: i like that jacket. >> 47 million people already beaten the 2016 total. do you believe this? ainsley: i know. steve: it will be interesting to see if they changed any minds because a lot of people going in felt a certain way. everybody thought it was more satisfying debate. ainsley: slu. steve: is it going to matter? brian: absolutely. i think president trump knocked it out of the park. steve: are there enough voters left? ainsley: i think two thirds of the voters left. we will see. i don't know if they're all undecided. griff jenkins in nashville with the debate highlights. hey, griff. >> hey, ainsley, brian and steve. talk about a more satisfying debate. mute button, moderator, somehow we went from cleveland catastrophe to nashville nice

and what a better picture the voters got of the contrast between the two candidates calm more policy driven environment and of course front and center was the coronavirus, watch. >> we have a vaccine that's coming, it's ready it's going to be announced in weeks. it's going to be delivered. we have operation warp speed which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine. >> this is the same fellow who told that you don't worry we are going to end this by the summer. we aring about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter. and he has no clear plan and there's no prospect that there is going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the american people before the middle of next year. griff: now, foreign policy was not on the list of topics, obviously with so much news breaking it came up last night. >> everything that's going on here about russia is wanting to make sure that i do not get elected the next president of the united states because they know i know them. and they know me.

>> there has been nobody tougher to russia between the sanctions. nobody tougher than me on russia. between the sanctions, between all of what i have done with nato. >> it is expected the president hitting biden over his son's business dealings. and while it was more civil they did still brawl from the economy to climate change into criminal justice. watch. >> you were vice president along with obama as your president, your leader for 8 years. why didn't you get it done? you had 8 years to get did done. now you are saying you are going to get it done. because you are all talk and no action. >> we got 38,000 prisoners out. >> you got nothing done. >> and the real question now is as you guys were talking the nearly 50 million people have already voted leaving two thirds of the country. about how many of them are undecided? only time will tell 11 days to go. meanwhile biden is making a speech in hometown of wilmington

today and the president is holding not one but two rallies down in florida. brian, ainsley, steve? brian: thank you very much. a lot of stuff going on hitler was trending because joe biden came out and said we were friends with hitler until the war started. i didn't know that not many other people did. i don't know if that's going to pass the fact checking police. this was a lot better debate overall. the president could feel good and vice president biden could pick out things out of it. when i saw these totals this morning i was stunned. how many interruptions there were actually from the moderator. and it's 111 was interrupted 111 times just 22 for joe biden that struck joe con charges media reporter for the hill who said not only are there interruptions. he, like many of us, were disappointed in the topics, foreign policy, the economy, not there. listen. >> in terms of the actual issued

discussed going over. this covid big issue maybe biggest issue. didn't hear contrast on economy. we miss a lot of opportunities in terms of things that people actually care about in terms of we saw summer of crime on our tv screens throughout the entire summer and that wasn't discussed as well when we talk about trump's taxes or hunter biden, the american people aren't being served by issues that they care about and they really talked about. i'm not saying that was my request. i wanted a wipe between us. i'm not saying race relations aren't important race relations aren't important. why just did it. we only had two debates. why couldn't we have just said or the commission said hey, moderator this is what you think but i think we have to put foreign policy in there and have to talk about the economy there in there issue about international business which both sides want to take a shot at each other on. steve: right.

brian: they have to squeeze that in between topics that didn't apply. i find that real frustrating especially when joe biden's administration pulled out of iraq and gave us isis and called them the jv team and then had a red line if you use chemical weapons. when they did, they did nothing. at the very least, could that have come up at one moment in three hours of debate? the answer is no. the libya situation. we take out qaddafi and leave it now to the russians and it's become terror university. that's a joe biden policy. steve: the moderator is one who picked the topics. and on paper, the topics seem to. brian: redundant. steve: they seem to help joe biden more than donald trump. brian: yep. steve: donald trump would have liked to talk about foreign policy and law and order and defunding police. kristen walker got to choose these things. the president did switch the topics. and he's the one who had to brings up this bobulinski guy

who had this press conference 90 minutes before where he talked about how joe biden was in a business deal, his son was and joe is going to get money and stuff like that. but it is curious. every time the president seemed to be making a point about hunter biden and this bobulinski guy and russia money and stuff like that. he was interrupted a lot. i do think whoever told the president in the first debate hey, you have got to interrupt him all the time, i hope the president is talking to that person today and and says to that person had i been the guy i was last night. i would probably not have lost points as did i after the last debate because it was a more satisfying debate because kristen welker was able to keep people on track. but, at the same time, there was the threat of the mute button over everybody nobody wants to get muted on television. although i sound like i'm muting

myself. ainsley: bless your heart have you got the weekend hopefully you will get better the next few days. steve: i know. ainsley: tony bobulinski had a press conference before the debate 7:30. steve: 90 minutes before. ainsley: he basically said i have the text messages to prove everything that was said we did meet with joe biden. he says they met three times with joe biden and he had the proof on his phone. listen to this. >> i have heard joe biden say he has never discussed business with hunter. that is false. i have first hand knowledge about this because i directly dealt with the biden family, including joe biden. i have no wish to bury anyone. i have never been political but what i am is a patriot and a veteran. ainsley: brian? brian: he was asked to be ceo of this investment firm. they come in and got to invest in different countries and put together money and get about

$10 million and go out there and try to raise money and invest in different -- get opportunities. when it became clear to him and by the way the hawk in cino hawk is the favorite bird of beau biden. when this became clear to him this was piggy bank of hunter biden. that's when he bailed. in fact, in one email he says and we will pop that up. in one email it says may 17th. just roll up. bobulinski discusses getting dinner with hunter's uncle and joe biden over chinese documents with hunter allegedly responding that his dad is not in until 11. does that sound like a guy who is not involved in a deal. steve: in another text from 2017 hubbard's business partner by the names of james gill area says don't mention joe being involved. particularly the name joe.

it's only when it's face to face i know you know that but they are paranoid. because they would hate for those text messages and those what's app. to become public. it will be interesting to see how many people in the media do investigate the investor veracity of these allegations. >> one says great to meet you spend time. joe for his time great to talk thanks tony b. the reason this is important if you are home because some of this can get in the weeds. because, if this is true, this guy is running for president of the united states his son get's on all of these boards and foreign countries and getting money from them. and some of these emails alluded to the fact that he getting money from his dad next change for meetings with foreign entities. brian: that guy is a penn state wrestler and decorated marine who has so much respect they recruited him to be ceo. when hunter biden, according to him and these text messages

started taking money out to pay bills and exwives and girldz and who knows what else he was outraged. how did he find out about it? in the johnson report. what happened? what are we looking at? is this a smear or did hunter biden drop off his laptop forgot he left it there and the person who owned the store give it to the fbi? please tell me where russia got in there. ainsley: some friends called him and said you are going to blow us all up he said i'm not here to blow up told the truth. money was involved. steve: what's on those phones and hunter biden and joe biden's involvement as well. brian: there is no russian involvement. steve: well, that's what the campaign says. they said yesterday, any of this stuff. ainsley: ratcliffe said, too. steve: this guy russian disinformation. brian: i'm pretty sure that delaware manager of the computer shop not with russia. but i'm going to look into it. steve: all right. i wish somebody would.

actually a few people not just the whole world. pete hegseth wearing a cowboy hat in nashville at the redneck rivera. hey, pete. pete: good morning, guys. we have been looking for russians here too. haven't found any yet. i will let you know if we do. we are he had redneck rivera. john rich throws a great party. we might see him this morning. we hope he will come on out. we are talking to the folks to get reaction to last night couple folks in reaction to the debate. you are an author and tell me -- you wrote by the way george washington biographies potus 1. very cool what did you think of potus 45. >> i thought he did great. he spoke truth to power. the american people need truth to delineate anything in their life and that's what he did. he drew out the truth from joe biden whether he wanted to say it or not. pete: what topic russ talking about.

second moderator. what was he challenging. >> about his son's emails or about the oil and the environment. people want real answers and if you give them a fake answer they can't do anything. pete: in that moment if the moderator is not going to follow up the president did. are you listening texas and pennsylvania. this is what he really said about oil. great point. appreciate it. alex, right? >> yes, sir. pete: talk to me about your reactions from last night. >> nashville is one of these cities that's a tourism hub. we have been hit hard by the pandemic. my family is in restaurants. we have been hit pretty hard as well. i was really looking for which ever candidate was willing to put forward a message of hope and optimism. trying to get us through the pandemic and obstacles. i really liked president trump's quote about how success is going to be, what brings us out of the pandemic and brings us together. i thought it was a really good. pete: that was something he emphasized at the beginning we were coming together because of success. we can get there again. have you got to believe a lot of people feel that wait a minute good luck in the restaurant

business here. i know it's true they shut things down early and limiting this and that. nashville will be back. that's the optimistic message the president had last night as well. thank you. ainsley: thanks, pete. president trump confronting joe biden on criminal justice reform. >> tens of thousands of mostly black young men in prison now you are saying you are going to undo that why didn't you get it done? >> we had a republican congress. ainsley: well alice marie johnson's life sentence was commuted by the president. she is here to react next.

10 years. funding definitely for 10 years and of course prison reform what he did for your life. were you pleased with what he said last night? >> [inaudible] ainsley: tell me why. >> i believe what you do is who you ever. i was incarcerated for over two

decades. and behind the crime bill president trump had mercy for meal and i'm home. i have -- there were five other people this week that the president brought home who were serving decades behind bars. ask the families of curtis mcdonald, of john bolin, of duke tanner. of la nora logan, michelle, ask them how they feel to have their loved ones back at home because for years they set across a table and saw an empty chair. ainsley: alice, what do you think about what biden said? he said if you have a drug problem doesn't agree they should be put in jail they should go to rehab. you were in prison and some of them were behind bars because of drug problems. do you think that rehab facility would be better? >> >> the people who i was in prison with were sitting behind bars. too many of them, because of the

crime bill. many of them lost their life. it impacted their families. you cannot go back and undo and give those years back to these families. i mean, and there are still people who were there who the president continues to identify and continues to look at their cases and brings them home. so i'm just listening what what was said about what is really on the ballot. what you did is on the ballot, too. >> that's true he said the crime bill was a mistake. you are right if you think about the people who have spent decades behind bars because of that mistake is that satisfactory for them? no it's not. not satisfactory for the families still waiting for their loved ones to come home there are people sitting in prison serving life sentences now who have been identified, who working on to bring home many of them in are in there for

marijuana case. marijuana crimes. so that was just not satisfactory to me what is being done now, moving forward, pushing forward this administration's criminal justice reform efforts that is what is important to me. ainsley: the president got more percentage of black voters than mitt romney did in the election prior to that how many thanksgiving do you think he will get? what percentage of the black voter will vote for president trump? >> i don't have a percentage. but i think it's going to be a much larger percentage than anyone is expecting. because we see through many things. we have our own minds to think. and i think people are waking up i don't owe anyone my vote. i'm going to vote based on policies. based upon what impacts my family. i'm not looking for someone that is charismatic or any of that i'm looking for what impacts my family. what impacts my faith what

impacts my ability to survive as a american citizen to be able to have good wages. i'm voting for the opportunity that my family will have for opportunities. i'm voting for those things. ainsley: we watched that video of you running into the arms of your family. you were supposed to be behind bars forever for the rest of your life and he got you out and reunited with your family. >> yes. ainsley: thank you so much, alice. >> thank you for having me, ainsley. ainsley: god bless you. joe biden and president trump sparring over the allegations surrounding hunter biden. >> what this -- he is accusing me of is a russian plant. >> you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia hoax? you got to be kidding -- >> -- that's exactly. ainsley: ben domenech is here to react to that next.

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>> our character is on the ballot. >> russia, ukraine, china, other countries, iraq. if this is true, then is he a corrupt politician. >> all right. >> so don't give me the stuff about how you are this innocent baby. >> there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this -- he is accusing me of is a russian plant. >> you mean the laptop is now a russia, russia, russia hoax?

you have to be kidding. steve: joe biden on the defense over allegations about his son hunter even tying the story to russia. this comes after the director of national intelligence john ratcliffe said there is no evidence of russian disinformation. and as a former business associate of hunter speaks out against the former vice president. here with reaction it the publisher of the federalist ben dodomdodomfederalist wemeet thii said joe is a liar and i was in business dealings with the family. how big a deal is this? the president tried to bring it up but the bidens say it's russian disinformation. >> i'm kind of flabbergasted at the biden approach to this whole thing because claiming that this is russian miss information, disinformation there is just no basis for that and he can use

the fig leaf of people exintel who admit they are not familiar with this situation directly. i don't think that's going to pass muster with people. better off saying hunter, my son has made a lot of bad decisions in his life. regrettable decisions, things we all regret. and if he has done anything wrong he should, you know, face the consequences like any american, but i can sure assure the american people i'm running for president. i won't participate in any way. i haven't taken a dime from any of these people. instead he has to go even further saying ridiculously this is russian miss information. it's some kind of foreign plot. i don't think anybody believes that looks like the kind of typical pay for play washington corruption, frankly, that we have seen happen with a lot of different families over the years. i think joe would be better off if he just said that and made clear that he, as president, would not be affected by this and has not been affected by. this instead he has to go much further than that i think that leaves him open for criticism.

steve: right. i'm sure it was puzzling to a lot of people watching thinking what is donald trump talking about? because they watch channels where they have never explained this stuff. and, unlike fox news channel, which took mr. bobulinski's press conference live, they haven't heard about the laptop and any of that other stuff. >> you know, i'm used to hearings the critiques from media figures across the board of siloing the idea that people who watch fox news somehow don't get information that's out there. in reality what we are see something enforced big tech corporate media silo on this issue which is just unjustified at this point. there is so much evidence involved that this is at least a story that deserves investigation. steve: sure. >> and clarification given the amount of secretary of defense that we have not just from bobulinski but from others as well. that's something that i think does a real disservice to readers and listeners across the board. steve: ben, we have been talking about it this morning.

the president did a much better job last night. were you saying to yourself hey, where was this guy the first time because if that guy was on the stage the first time he wouldn't have dropped three or four points in the polls. >> you know, the truth is that donald trump contains multitudes. he is both of these people at the same time i don't think we can actually ask him to only be one. i will say i think this was his best debate performance that he ever gave. steve: i agree. >> president as a closing argument he did an excellent job of presenting it. you always know who won or lost the debate by which side the next morning is making the argument that the debate doesn't change anything, that it comes too late. that it doesn't matter. i think it's clear that the biden camp is making that argument. also an enormous amount of material to work with coming out of this debate. things that joe biden said that i think that trump campaign can use in critical states. his comments about oil, gas and

fracking, for instance, are going to be something that i think the trump campaign will probably lean into a state like pennsylvania which could end up being the deciding factor in this election. steve: and donald trump is a closer. so between now and november 3rd, he is going to be out a couple times a day. and joe biden, i think, has one public event scheduled on his calendar so far. does that matter to people? do they see people who are working over time trying to show that they are really interested and giving it another chance at this or to become president or does it even matter? joe biden spent four or five days at his compound. >> i think that if donald trump is able to come back and win this election, 11 days from now. then, enormous amount of criticism will be directed at the choice by the biden campaign to basically go silent, to go into the basement. joe biden is an accomplished retail politician. people like him best when they are able to see him. it's one of his best attributes.

he doesn't do things at a distance like barack obama. he wants to be out there talking to people directly and communicating with them. the decision out of fear or whatever else they are evaluating here and trust the polls and say we are just going to stay in the basement and have a non-campaign and hope that ends up staying static until november 3rd. that's a big gamble and one that i think that if they end up losing will be looked back upon as a big ms. stake. steve: we will know in 12 days. ben, thank you very much. >> let's hope we know in 12 days. steve: no kidding. thank you, sir. all right. still ahead. piers morgan says president trump may have saved his job last night at the debate. piers up next. ♪ ♪ time to start brushing with parodontax toothpaste? if your gums bleed when you brush, the answer is yes. the clock may be ticking towards worse...

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♪ ♪ brian: they like to say world is watching the united states. they are watching everything we do. whether it's 2:00 in the afternoon and they are on some small legislative bill or it's a debate where 50 million americans are watching. we will find out if england was watching. go outside to piers morgan editor-at-large daily mail.com. wake up excellent book about where we are right now in the world. pierce, your take being that you know the president is he a little mad have you been critical at him you have a job to do. looking at what did he last night, how are his fortunes different today than they everywhere before the debate? >> well, you know, i watched all the debate this morning when i got up here in london the thing that struck me donald trump had a much more measured tone. it was like he muzzled himself. he tamed himself from the kind of ranting beast that we saw in the first debate. and it was much more effective.

it was much more effective for a exuding a dare i say presidential which democrats have been show in this particularly turbulent year. more effective in exposing his opponent, joe biden's flaws. because, actually, a calmer, more reasoned debate where it was clear that president trump is better prepared, i think, than he has been before. it allowed people to focus a lot more clearly on joe biden. and his policies. and i thought one of the most effective tools of donald trump's tactics last night was the way he kept referring to joe biden as said well, look you keep seeing you are going to do all this stuff. it does beg the question why didn't you do it in the 8 years that you were vice president? ened he goaded him so successfully that eventually joe biden chucked obama under the bus and said on the immigration issue well, you know, i'm going to be president next time not vice president. we didn't do enough. that was a big moment, i felt, for trump. steve: sure and a dig at barack

obama. i wonder if barack obama was watching hey, joe, what are you doing to me? >> he can't be happy about it. steve: he can't. i just read your brand new op-ed this morning at daily mail. and it's very good. and i agree with a lot of your points. you do wonder whether or not trump's great performance last night is too late. but you do say that he really, joe biden really gave the republicans a gift by talking about how i would transition away from oil because it's like wait, i think there is something like 10 million jobs in the united states that are dependent upon the oil and gas industry. >> yeah. and some of the states directly impacted by this, of course. crucial states for joe biden to have to win. and extraordinary gamble, it seemed to me. he could have phrased that a very different way. he could have just said look, i think we should be exploring more in knee number energy. a lot of people in the oil industry. we have to be careful how we do

this. but to simply say yes, i'm getting rid of the oil industry. as donald trump seize very quickly on that and what about all these states, joe, pennsylvania, ohio, texas and so on? that again, a powerful moment for donald trump. ainsley: he lied about fracking. he said i neve opposed it. clips saying is he going to get rid of it and fossil fuels. as far as hunter biden, he said i have done nothing unethical. i have never accepted one penny from foreign countries. this is what the media. this is the media's reaction. watch. this talking about the biden's personal corruption a little bit about hunter biden. most of those charges unverified. >> charges so heinous i'm not even going to say them. just nonsense. with no evidence. just completely made up. >> complete fabrications and falsehoods. has very little evidence behind it. >> the nastiest, ugliest smear gains. >> desperation. >> american politics desperation

move. >> if you didn't follow it closely you probably don't quite understand what the hit is. >> if you are not immersed in right wing media. >> and we are cable hosts. [laughter] >> we are cable hosts and we don't know the details. [laughter] >> what are they talking about? some laptop. >> no one knows the details of these conspiracy theories? ainsley: piers, what's your reaction? >> look, i don't care if you are pro-trump, anti-trump, one of the things in my new book is about fair mindedness. at the very least these journalists are revealing themselves to be hyper partisan. let's be completely clear, swap hunter biden name for donald trump jr. do you think all these journalist also be talking in the way they are about these "new york post" revelations? from where i sit as a former newspaper editor, i have seen them run day after day after day a revelations from hunter biden's laptop they say with emails between hunter biden and various business associates. and as we sit here today talking, i don't believe either the existence of that being

hunt's laptop or existence of those enails has been questioned. noble on the biden side denied laptop or emails. some conspiracy it may well be messy involving steve bannon and rudy giuliani. who knows how it came to get to the post. but, putting all that aside, isn't the basic fundamental duty of any journalist on any media organization to at least look at the allegations and if they haven't been denied, on what they say. brian: piers, back up your point a 37 year veteran of a marine, decorated marine was a business partner. before the debate he had a press conference your exemployer cnn didn't even cover it nor did msnbc about the president of the united states' son that implicates him in a deal that says they sat down together and discussed it that has the text message that says never bring up joe's name only face to face. i just want to say it again. doesn't that back up the

validity of the story or at least to pursue the story? and doesn't that segue perfectly to your book? >> what it backs up is just my belief, this is no denial about the laptop being hunter's and no denial that these emails are genuine there has been neither of those denials, journalists should have a duty, if they're impartial, to investigate it with the same aggression and enthusiasm they would investigate it if the name biden was switched for trump. steve: exactly. >> it's not being done. it's all over the russian collusion fiasco several years that they don't need much of this so-called hard evidence to upset a better story if they want. to say they are making a political calculation not a journalistic one. steve: piers your new book is "wake up while the world is going nuts." 30 seconds tell us about it? >> the woke cancel cultural.

this liberal illiberal faction. noisy people on social media think they have the god given power now to cancel anybody who doesn't speak how they decide you should speak. who doesn't find the same jokes funny. who doesn't like the same tv shows or movies or dress the right way or do anything frankly that hasn't been signed off by the woke brigade. i'm sick of it. i want to lead my life how i choose to do. so i bet your viewers do too. i bet you presenters do as well. i want the woke crowd to get canceled. because what they are doing is not what the woke viewers originally supposed to be which is to social racial injustice and awareness of that. it is not a form of fascism. they want to tell us thousand lead our lives and how to behave and speak and it's got to stop. brian: we're going to stop it in our two countries. we will do our best in the united states and you handle the u.k., right? >> you know, i've got this. ainsley: is he waking up the u.k. every morning. the title is perfect for several

reesks. thanks so much. great so see you. >> if the president is watching answered might be, i know you unfollowed me on twitter very critical about you in this crisis. you may want to refollow me now. if you take my advice you still have a chance of keeping the whitwhite house. steve: you are not direct messaging just talking to him. brian: already won the atis so no ulterior motive. >> chosen me as apprentice and apprentice is speaking out now. ainsley: op-ed what happened last night at the debate might have saved president trump's presidency. thank you so much for your congratulations on the book. go to amazon and local book stores if you can and buy "wake up" have a good one. >> thank you very much. ainsley: "fox & friends weekend" host will, jedediah and pete are all here with their takeaways from the debate next.

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ainsley: let's bring in "fox & friends weekend" co-host will cain, jedediah billa and pete hegseth -- pete is down in nashville, at least. good morning, everyone. >> good morning. >> i know you all stayed up late and watched the debate. jedediah, i will start with you. what's your take away? jedediah: yeah, i thought this was a big win for the president last night. no question. and we have had a lot of conversations on the weekend. will and i in particular did a lot of debating about delivery.

and i cautioned that with the last debate with the interrupting. and this is a perfect example of when president trump steps back for a moment, let's joe biden do some of the talking, a lot of that biden policy came through. and it was extremely problematic. and the conversation is now not about president trump and his behavior. the conversation is about joe biden's policy. they are talking about minimum wage. they are talking about energy costs. a lot of those issues that are incredibly relevant now to people close to home means joe biden energy plan was a hot topic and people are saying what does that mean for me at the gas pump? what does that mean for me utility bill these are the conversations i have wanted to emerge when it comes to policy and that's exactly what happened. kudos to the debate moderator ohio thought did a fantastic job. it turns out also, ainsley, that mute, that two minutes worked out fantastic. because as, you know, and we talked about this at length. a lot of these policies on the left deeply deeply problematic but you have to give them a chance to be flushed out.

let people hear it and hear people say hold on a second what would that mean for my life. brian: right. jedediah: i think that happened very successfully last night. brian: did a better job. topics redundant. climate change and race relations. we haven't had foreign policy and international business affairs which would have worked for both. will it, seems as though the president wanted to make -- good enough to get joe biden out of the basement. make him work for this. did he do enough to do that? will: brian, i'm very sorry for this. they just put my screen up and i looked down what does pete hegseth have on his head? steve: cowboy hat. will: i'm completely distracted. ainsley: he is at the redneck rivera in nashville very patriotic. will: came up on my screen i was flush. i heard you tweeting about that last night brian, very legitimate point. it's important to contrast the last four years against 47 years

of joe biden in washington. but outside of foreign policy, brian, i thought president trump did a wonderful job of outlining those contrasts. by doing what jedediah just laid out. letting joe biden make his case. i thought one of the most important ones was on the energy industry. was on oil and gas. was getting joe biden to say he would phase it out. i want to share with you two numbers. ohio, i believe it's about 100,000 jobs in the energy sector and 25,000 jobs of those in fuel. in pennsylvania, take that up to 113,000 total jobs, 54,000 in fuel generation. how do you think it's going to work in those two swing states with joe biden saying is he going to put an end to the oil industry? steve: sure. cowboy pete hegseth the president really did draw blood when he was talking about how looking right at joe biden i got into politics because politicians like you couldn't do the job. you are all talk and no action? pete: i thought it was a great

line. i got into politics because of you. you are the reason i'm running. politicians like you. and your 47-year record of not delivering on all the things you are now promising to do. and he returned to that theme time and time again which i thought was very effective. i also liked the conversation on covid. the president said listen, i can't are up the country from the basement. joe biden talked about a dark winter. there was a lot of perform. the presidenmesspessimism.busin. kids need to go back to school and he delivered that in a way a lot of people resonate with. hey we didn't want this, you didn't want. this the china virus came to our shores and we managed it as best we can. i think the format was much more befitting the president. let the president talk and wander where he did. disagree on the moderator two on one again last night. the president was cut off at every turn and the questions were totally mischaracterized to him to try to make him look bad. he always has to deal with that we know he is going to deal with it. he dealt with it well though.

and i think on the issue of fracking. on the issue of energy. he exposed himself. he has an unholy marriage with the far left. he doesn't know who he wants to be in erie, pennsylvania versus the radical left. that was exposed last night, also. so big night for the president. i thought he delivered on what needed to do. ainsley: keep in mind, if you elect him it opens the door for progressives. they are calling him the pro-jack january horse. thanks a lot guys. we will be watching over the weekend. pete: will, i will see you tomorrow, brother. steve: bring the hat. ainsley: another one of our big geraldo rivera, ari fleischer and treygh gowdy live in the net hour. and downtown. but don't worry, julie... robitussin shuts coughs down.

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>> [inaudible] >> he is going to destroy the oil industry. will you remember that, texas? will you remember that, pennsylvania? what about fracking? >> i never said i opposed fracking. ♪ ♪ brian: that is true. the whole world's watching this incredibly intense debate and this competition. we're 11 days away from picking a new president. 50 million people, roughly, have already voted. that surpasses early voting for the whole last time, and i will say this, it's fascinating to see the difference between the two candidates. the president's going to the villages and going over to understood annapolis, going to make remarks in ohio. joe biden is going to deliver remarks in this place called delaware. i believe he lives there. steve: i think that's going to be easy for him. brian: good luck with that. steve: it looks as though the president of the united states is going to be doing some early voting tomorrow, we believe, in

west palm beach. you'll see that. actually, this hour you may see mike pence voting with his wife karen in indianapolis. apparently, the pences requested ballots from the marion county clerk's office. they may have received them. it's unclear if they will drop them off or go ahead and spoil them, is the term -- brian: very curious to see who he'll vote for. [laughter] ainsley: we heard he's going to do early voting at nooned today, and -- at nooned today. griff jenkins is live down in nashville with the debate highlights for us. how you doing? >> reporter: hey a, ainsley, brian and steve, good morning to you. let me try and put this in a weather analogy. we've gone in one month from a cat four cleveland storm to beautiful skies here on the campus at belmont. voters that still haven't voted, well, such a contrast between

the two candidates, and nowhere was it more visible than on the coronavirus. watch. >> we have a vaccine that's coming. it's ready. it's going to be announced within weeks, and it's going to be delivered. we have operation warp speed which is, the military is going the distribute the vaccine. >> this is the same fella who told you, don't worry, we're going to end this by the summer. we're about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter, and he has no clear plan, and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the american people before the middle of next year. >> reporter: foreign policy wasn't on the list of topics, but it was front and center. and as we expected, the president hitting bind over his son's overseas business with dealings. -- biden. >> the e-mails, the horrible e-mails of the kind of money you were raking in, you and your family. and, joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. and i think you owe an explanation to the american people. >> i have not taken a penny from

any foreign source ever in my life. we learned this president paid 50 times the tax in china as, has a secret bank account in china, does buzz in china. >> reporter: and while it was more civil, fireworks still flew over the economy, climate change, health care and race relations. >> not since abraham lincoln has anybody done what i've done for the black community. i'm the least racist person in this room. >> abraham lincoln here is one to of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history. >> where did that come in? >> reporter: question now is how much of an impact it will have. nearly 50 million americans already voting, the candidates hitting the trail in wilmington for biden and, of course, in florida, two rallies, for president trump. brian, ainsley, steve? brian: thanks so much, griff. one of the key things you can do is listen and respond in our job, and as a debate person, and the president did that.

let's bring in geraldo rivera, fox correspondent at large which means he goes anywhere and write it off, the expenses are never challenged -- [laughter] fox news contributor ari fleischer. how you doing? >> good morning. brian: ari, i bracketed your comments from last night to help this show. you were pretty pleased with what the president produced last night. >> absolutely. you noticed the change in the president's style allowed biden to hang himself. the more people listen and see joe biden, the more it hurts joe biden. why do you think husband handlers have him hiding in the basement? they don't want him seen and heard. so the president was wise last night to let biden hang himself and the president opened up a really strong case. here's the message that should be the closing message. 11 days left, a lot of time. this is a race between an outsider with results against a typical politician with no results who's moving left. if the president drives that

simple theme home the next 11 days, a lot of good can happen for donald trump. steve: all right. ari, we just got a text message from karl rove. he said please mute that man's microphone. [laughter] geraldo -- >> i can hold up my gatorade. [laughter] steve: enough of that. geraldo, were you saying to yourself when you and erica were watching last night, did you say where was that donald trump last time? >> i sure did. you know, america wants a tough guy to be president. but they want a tough guy like the rock. they don't want godzilla. and in the first debate trump was godzilla. he was, like, burning everybody and stomping everywhere, you know? he was out of control. i thought last night he was very presidential. i think that joe biden did a good job in his discussion about the plague, the epidemic, the covid-19 and what the president might have done and what he did wrong --

brian: nothing new. >> that was biden's strongest point, he dud. but -- he did. but i thought that everything else, i thought the president really rattled the former vice president is -- with all of the hunter biden allegations. joe biden's strongest argument is character, but it his character is undermined by these allegations of corruption and by his son's self-dealing biden family, it definitely takes the glow off the biden message. i wish the president had been more compassionate, though, speaking about the covid-19 victims, almost 250,000 of them, 230,000 of them. you know, say a message to their families. and also on immigration, i thought that he could have been more kind to the churn who have been -- children who have been separated from their families. it would have been so easy for him to say i want great foster families in america to take care of these children until we can sort this out and find their

families, you know, a message of compassion, i think, would have gone a long way. ainsley: speak of that, they talked about the children in cages. listen to that exchange. >> they did it, we changed the policy. >> your response to that? >> they did it -- >> we did not separate -- >> who built the cages, joe? >> let's talk about -- >> who built the cages, joe? >> let's talk about what we're talking about. what happened? parents were ripped -- their kids were runed from their arms and separated. and now they cannot find over 500 sets of those parents, and those kids are alone. nowhere to go. nowhere to go. it's criminal. >> they are so well taken care of. they're in facilities that were so clean -- >> some of them haven't been reunited -- >> but just ask one question, who built the cages? i'd love you to ask him that, who bullet the cages? ainsley: rehe brings up a good point because, look, you were the ones who actually put kids

in capables. when it comes to fracking, you're saying you never opposed it, yet we have it on tape when you did oppose it. and when it comes to health care, no one has lost their health insurance number, but when you look at the numbers, 4.7 million lost their insurance plans because of obamacare. so which joe biden do you believe? if he's lying about some of these things, what else is he not telling the truth about? >> well, that's right. and on the character front, we know joe biden has lied. he lied about being arrested when he went to south africa to visit nelson mandela. there was an entirely fabricated series of lies about pinning a silver star on the chest of a navy captain. none of it took place. biden lied about finishing in the top half of his law school. who even cares about that? but biden lied. so the question is, is he also lying about ever meeting with anybody from burisma, because he says he never discussed burisma

with his son hunter, and no appropriator's digging into that. the debate really showed -- and this is where the president needs to stay -- is on policy. and policy after policy biden's moving left. the public option on health care? that was rejected by the obama administration for being too far to the. [laughter] it's government-run health care for everybody, no choice. if you want the public option, you have no choice about being in the private sector. biden's moving to the. [laughter] this is an opening for the president. biden is a typical politician with no results, moving left. brian: here's one moment that was key where the president has gotten this job, nothing but headwinds from the washington establishment. pointed out the difference between the two, listen. >> offering $20 billion to states to change their the state laws to eliminate minimum mandatories and set up drug courts. wewe should fundamentally change the system, and that's what i'm going to do it. >> i why didn't he do it four

years ago? even less than that? you were vice president, you keep talking about all these things you're going to do and you're going to do this, but you were there just a short time ago, and you guys did nothing. >> we did -- >> you know, joe, i ran because of you. i ran because of barack obama. because you did a poor job. if i thought you did a good job, i would have never run. i would have never run. [laughter] i ran because of you. i'm looking at you now, you're a politician. i ran because of you. brian: can you both weigh in on that? ari, real quick. this is what you were saying, right? >> i'm an outsider with results, you're an insider typical politician, all talk, no action. that's the heart of the message. brian: geraldo? >> this is evidence of my main point that joe biden was terribly rattled by the attack on the son's computer and the business dealings, and i thought he was -- it's like fighting, it's like boxing. he was on the ropes, he was kind of, like, you know, his held was buzzing -- brian: checking his watch.

>> checking his watch and throwing out crazy stuff like i'm going to do away with oil and clean air by 2025, an unattainable goal that was straight out of the far-left handbook. i thought that the former vice president really exposed his vulnerabilities and probably the reason he's been so low profile in this campaign, because he did not take the punches well. not this time. i thought the president was very disciplined and landed the better blows. steve: ari, 50 million people have already voted. if you are a joe biden voter and you have not yet voted, would you have been confused by a couple of his answers? for instance, if you are a progressive and you heard joe biden say he's going to keep fracking, you might be turned off because you would like to get rid of fracking. at the same time, when he said i would transition away if oil, you know, there are 10 million middle class americans who have

got jobs in the oil and gas industry. and i was reading this morning something like, what is it, the average driver saves $540 a year at the pump because of fracking. so if you were in the middle class or if you're a progressive, it's like, hey, wait a minute, i thought i liked that guy til just then. >> yeah. fracking's also, by the way, led to a lot cleaner skies and climate because it's replaced dirty coal. natural gas is much cleaner. but here's the problem, i don't think there are many biden voters out there. i think there are a lot of anti-trump voters. so for the people who just don't like donald trump, it really doesn't matter much what joe biden says. the real issue here is that trump supporters, the people who like trump's policies but don't like trump, they think he can be too hot to handle, can trump get them back, can biden lose them -- ainsley: and, ari, there's also a lot of anti-progressive voters. they might not like trump's

style, but they like that he's honest, and they know where he stands on certain things. they're worried that kamala harris is going to get in there and it is going to be the course for the far, far, far left. >> yes. and another piece of evidence on that was when biden said that he was going to create a pathway to citizenship for tens of millions of people who came here illegally without border security, without asking anything in return. think about how radical the democrats have become. pack the courts -- brian: give them free health care. >> that's what that's about. >> can i put a but to that? steve: geraldo, quick. >> the president had an opportunity to be compassionate, to be the nice man, a strong man but a nice man. if he had said about, and i've had conversations with him, i know where he stands, i'm not going to do anything to hurt the dreamers. they came here through no fault of their own. i'm going to enforce and get the bad guys -- ainsley: sorry to interrupt you,

geraldo. vice president pence is going to the polls to go vote. that is in indiana. steve: that's right. we understand that the pences requested absentee ballots from the marion county clerk's office prior to this particular visit. we don't know -- it looks as if he's holding something, so he probably is about about to drop off his early ballot or else they will spoil them, as it is known, and then he will vote on a machine. let's see. if is he going -- are they going to -- ainsley: can you zoom in to see who he votes -- [laughter] i think we know. preep brian i think this is an important message, by the way, geraldo and ari, it's o.k. to vote early. hey, guys, i'm doing it, you can do it. don't just wait for election day because a lot of people are misinterpreting what the president said i don't trust the ballot, the post office. he wants to send a message, correct, ari?

>> yeah. i'm going to try to vote tomorrow. i live in new york state. polls open in person tomorrow, i'm going to show up -- >> i'll be voting next week. brian: are you an ohio resident? >> i am an ohio resident, and i'll be proudly voting next week. iowans a.n.s.w.e.r. hey, geraldo, i know you talk about erica, your wife, being liberal and has a sign in the front yard, and you said that's my wife's opinion, not mine. what did she think after yesterday? i'm sure y'all watched it together. what was your conversation like? >> i have not spoken to her yet. i will on our radio show that immediately follows "fox & friends." but i could tell that she was disappointed. joe biden was rattled. i keep coming back to that word. he was stuttering, he was unsure, he was looking around. and i think that the president made himself a possible comeback kid. bruin brian i have a question real quick for ari before you

leave. is mike pence going to be there voting for himself in four years? [laughter] ainsley: good question. >> we'll find out next tuesday, won't we? win or lose, you've got to put him in the presidential category. brian: after that debate performance, absolutely. steve: the poll workers have just affixed to their lapels the i voted stickers. now they're going to hop back in their motorcade. brian: make sure those ballots get counted, indiana, please. 17 minutes now after the hour. we'll watch them gently walk out of the gymnasium. one democrat running for congress wants to defund the pentagon. general jack keen says that will put the entire country at risk. plus, pete hegseth is in nashville having breakfast with friends including the guy that owns that building, john rich. we'll bring it to you live in just a moment.

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capabilities. i why is that? the priorities of the 9/11 went on for 20 years. the serious obama administration budget cuts and the he e that arey, i believe, that crept into the pentagon and also the pentagon and the national security community, that lethargy in being the world's only superpower and not recognizing that russia was reemerging and that china was surging. you put all that together, and we have this hole i'm describing. now the trump administration has put us on a path to recovery. but we're just in the early stages of that recovery. because the hole was so deep. and we've got to continue this -- if we stop that

recovery, if there's an administration that makes that discussion, not only are we going to stop it, but we're going to cut it, then what that will do, it will encourage our adversaries and put national security of the american people at risk. and our adversaries will fundamentally exploit it. brian: general, i was going to go over the foreign policy conversation from last night, but i have a blank page. we did not go over the difference between four years of vice president biden and his belief as chairman of foreign relations s and we didn't go over the last four years of donald trump. the american people were not served by leaving out that topic. >> yeah. that is very, very frustrating. it's the thing that frustrated me the most about the debates themselves. we've always set aside, brian, a debate to deal with foreign policy and national security. why is that? because the united states is a global leader, and we're involved in the world out there, and these are critical decisions that are being made, and people have different, significantly different viewpoints as to how

to handle these problems. and to think that we don't even have a substantive question in the debate dealing with this issue, i think, one, it's irresponsible and, two, it is very insulting to the american people. i also believe, having looked at this now, that we should pay some attention -- maybe more attention -- to who's on these debate commissions prior to these, prior to these dedebates taking place so we make certain that the american people's interests are going to be served well. brian: yeah. the moderators had all the power. and i will say this, i go out of my way to keep you out of politics, but if joe biden's elected, we're trying to get back into the iranian deal. if president trump is elected, iran's going to have to feel like they have to come to a deal somehow. the middle east has been changed over the last three and a half years. we try to get back into the iranian deal, what do you think that would mean for israel and

those other two nations that made peace with israel? >> yeah. i mean, it would be quite staggering. listen, i'm not an apologist for the trump administration. they have done a great job in defining who our adversaries are and putting together plans to cop front them. so they -- confront them. so they moved from appeasement of our adversaries, which is what i thought we were largely doing in the previous administration, to confronting them. and that confrontation has been uneven, there's things they could do better, to be sure, and that should if be the subject for discussion in the debate. but the reality is that iran has been on the march for years as a result of our appeasement, as a result of the phony nuclear deal and the $1300 billion they got n cash flow as a result of sanction relief. brian: yeah. >> we cannot permit that to happen. and i believe the peace dea that has been struck in the middle east is a geopolitical paradigm shift that's going the change the middle east for generations to come.

and why is that? because a coalition is forming with the united states as part of it, israel as part of it and the arabs to do what? to stand up against iran. we cannot turn that around. if we turn that around, that would be a huge mistake, and what will the iranians do? further destabilize the middle east, because that's what they're about. they want to take control of it. and they're moved in that direction now, they have been confronted. and that confrontation is building a coalition of countries, i call it an arab nato, is what we're about. it'll take a number of years to put it all together, but that political and military alliance that is forming is a very good thing for the security of the american people and the middle east. brian: and we're not hostage to their oil, were our own. and the other thing is two more countries, or evidently, are going to make an announcement soon they're going to be partover it, and the other thing is, we can safely say this, joe

biden walked up to him, general mattis said don't pull out of iraq, this thing could break, he pulled out anyway, and it broke. when syria used natural gas -- the chemical, killer gas for, on their people, we true a red line, and we didn't enforce that red line, and we're still paying the price. those are facts. and that's what we could be going back to. general jack keane, thanks so much. >> good talking to you, brian. brian: president trump calling out joe biden for saying this about oil. >> and i'd stop giving to the oil city. i'd stop giving them federal subsidies. >> the oil industry the, will you remember that, texas? >> okay. >> will you remember that, pennsylvania, oklahoma? brian: and he gets interrupted. corey lewandowski and david bossie here next. [narrator] thi.

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statement that he would, quote, transition from the oil industry if elected after president trump calls him out for reversing or fripp -- flip-flopping on fracking. here with reaction, co-authors of trump america first, corey lewandowski and david bossie. good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: okay. corey, here in a couple of weeks when they look back at things that may have turned around the election, was joe biden talking about where he would transition away from the oil and remind people that he he has flip flopped on frack, -- fracking, s that to have an impact? >> steve, i think it's going to have a huge impact particularly in pennsylvania. you know, there was an op-ed e in the "wall street journal" that said joe biden's plan was put in place, we would see $6 a gallon gasoline. what does that do? it hurts the poorest of our communities, it hurts the people who can least afford that.

but that's what joe biden's policies are. they're draconian, they're targeting the people who can't afford it the most, and we're going to put these people out of business, thinking that we're going to transition to this green new deal? steve: right. >> it doesn't work, and the people of pennsylvania aren't going to support that, and that's why donald trump's going to win that state and get reelected. steve: david, you flew back with the president last night. how did he feel about that? >> i think he agrees with what corey just said. this was a big moment in time. and only the president, not the moderator, but the president of the united states picked up on it. he proved that point, he made joe biden repeat it, and now we have the video that shows joe biden lying about closing down, shutting down fracking and, ultimately, destroying the economy of pennsylvania. and that, that was a game-changer, steve. steve: right. >> a game-changer for us, and we're going to close this election and win pennsylvania again like we did in 2016.

steve: speaking of guam-changer, was this a game-changer? the ultimate october surprise, 90 minutes before the debate america met tony bobulinski who was at one point one of hunter biden's business associates, and essentially he said i don't care what joe biden has said, i have personally met with joe biden to discuss a deal with the chinese energy company. so when joe biden says i've never talked to my kids about their business, that's a lie according to this guy. watch this. >> i have heard joe biden say that he's never discussed business with hunter. that is false. i have firsthand knowledge about this because i directly dealt9 with the biden family including joe biden. i is have no wish to bury anyone. aye never been political, but what i am is a patriot and a veteran. steve: corey, how big is the fact that we met this guy 11

days before the election? >> steve, it goes right to the widing syndicate, the biden crime syndicate that he's talking directly about. this is like getting one of the capos of one of the organized families to flip. that's what he's done here. he now has direct evidence to corroborate everything we have been reading about in "the new york post" which says all these mails are awe innocent thetic. joe biden was part of this, and they had $10 million to kick upstairs to him. this dose directly to the heart of the hunter biden controversy. i believe a special counsel should be appointed immediately, and, look, the scary part, steve, is that the fbi's had this information for over a year and chosen to do nothing about it. i'm glad it's finally out there. steve: who knows if the fbi knew what was on that laptop. david, final word. >> first of all, steve, if they didn't know what was on the laptop, there's a lot of questions about the leadership at the fbi, i can assure you of

that. but this issue goes to the corruption of joe biden. the the president of the united states called out joe biden on making all of that money. everybody knows donald trump was a successful businessman. if you look at somebody who makes $180,000 a year, which is a lot of money, but $180,000 as a u.s. senator and then affording all of these houses, something's funny about that. we need a special counsel to investigate this. the american people deserve it. look, with a fake russia collusion allegation perpetrated by hillary clinton, we -- this president had to suffer through three years of investigations of house and senate hearingings and of robert mueller. and then we had the fake ukraine issue and this garbage of ukraine, and we with had -- he was impeached over a perfect phone call. this, this is real evidence, real testimony, and he claims those pieces of evidence, those

phones, those ipads or laptops have direct evidence. if the fbi has that, the attorney general must look at it, and i think for the american people we must have an independent counsel, a special counsel appointed immediately. steve: let's see what happens. david and corey, the president had a good night last night. guys, thank you very much. >> thanks, steve. steve: all right. we're going to step aside. trey gowdy coming up next. aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah!d- only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ if your gums bleed when you brush, the answer is yes. the clock may be ticking towards worse... parodontax is 3x more effective at removing plaque, the main cause of bleeding gums parodontax

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♪ ♪ ainsley: there is the white house in washington, d.c. where the with president lives. that could all change in a few days when you go to the pollings to vote, we will have to see. let's bring in trey trey gowdy,

former chairman of house government and oversight committee and author of that book right there, "doesn't hurt to ask." good morning, trey. >> good morning, ainsley, how are you? i'mainsley: i'm doing well, thak you. what were your top takeaways? >> the president did much better than the first debate. you know, joe biden said no mandatory minimums in the law. i mean, he said that last night, which means that murderers and child rapists are eligible for probation, but there was no follow up. i still don't know who the big guy is. i didn't hear the moderator ask joe biden who the big guy is. so the lack of follow-up questions, but the president, i thought, did exponentially better than the first time. brian: the other networks said it was a smear campaign. he actually said the russians put rudy giuliani up to this. number one, is it hunter's laptop? number two, is that his

signature? and, number three, isn't that an fbi receipt that picked it up? tell me where the russians come into that, trey? >> well, they don't. which is why the only relevant question is whether or not the underlying material is authentic. if it's authentic, then he needs to be asked about it. i it i may be that he did not discuss the information with hunter, in which case he would want to know if he's going to be the president that his son is trafficking if his name and his position. but it's only a fox story right now, fox and a handful of print. you will see more stories about rudy giuliani's film debut, which i don't want to see, but you'll see more stories about that than you will whether or not joe biden's family was trafficking in his name and -- brian: but they would have had to have lied, did that marine look like he was lying yesterday? >> yeah. do you remember colonel vindman? do you remember when we had to believe everyone in uniform? without question, we had to believe everyone in uniform. this guy was in a uniform too,

but the media has a different standard to republican scandals versus democrat scandals. steve: well, it was pretty clear the president wanted to bring up the whole thing with this bobulinski guy which is the cover of "the new york post" today, congressman. the moderator eventually did bring up hunter's business dealing, but nonetheless, the president feels this way about what we've learned a little about. watch. >> all of the e-mails, the e-mails, the horrible e-mails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. and, joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening. >> i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. russia's paying you a lot. china's paying you a lot. >> i don't make money from china, you do. i don't make money from ukraine, you do. i don't make money from russia. you made $3.5 million, joe. you're the big man, i think. your son said we have to give 10% to the big man, joe, what's

that all about? brian: you know, here's the thing, congressman, you know that over the last couple months joe biden has, for the most part, just stayed at home. they say in his basement. we haven't verified that, but maybe he is in his basement. so far it's worked for him. going forward, if nobody else does this story other than "the new york post," the radio and fox news, is it really going to matter? >> no. it's not going to matter. i mean, the doj and the fbi, i get the calls for a special counsel. i don't agree with them, but i get 'em. nothing's going to happen before the election. the media provides oversight in noncriminal matters. "the new york times" and the washington post, they could care less about this story. they don't want to know who the big guy is and whether hunter biden was trafficking in his father's name. i think it's relevant. i think the american people either want to know or should want to know. brian: what's next? this marine is meeting with ron

johnson today to talk about how joe biden was with to be dealt with one-on-one, not in texts. doesn't that show there's something there? >> yeah. usually when you don't want your name mentioned and, look, the whole tax return defense, i mean, i can't to be cynical, but lots of people who engage in impropriety don't include that information on their tax returns. [laughter] this is only going to be a relevant story if the media applies the same level of scrutiny to joe biden that they did -- look, the ukraine call got donald trump impeached. and you mean to tell me these mails can't even get "the new york times" interested? brian: it would have changed impeachment. steve: well -- >> pardon me? ainsley: all right. we've got to go -- >> oh, yeah, it would have. thank you all. aipg iowans thank you so much. coming up next, pete hegseth is in nashville having breakfast with friends, but first let's check in with sandra smith. sandra: good morning. post-debate analysis and reaction coming up. lara trump, from the trump

campaign, on whether the president's performance swayed any voters or changed any minds. stu varney on market reaction and his thoughts on some e key moments. the two candidates sounded off on the economy last night. and chris wallace with his thoughts on who won, who lost, and how did that mute button work out? we've got a rocket three hours coming up, join bill hemmer and me on this friday morning live from "america's newsroom." absor, absor, all in one disposable pad. just vacuum, spray mop, and toss. the shark vacmop, a complete clean all in one disposable pad.

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♪ ♪ brian: all right. president trump and joe biden addressing key issues in their final debate. ainsley: so what do the voters think? let's check back in with pete hegseth at the red neck riviera bar -- steve: where's the breakfast? ainsley: yeah, you're drinking it. >> some of our patrons have had some drinks this morning. it is a bar owned by john rich, what do you expect, okay? finger food in the back, so this is -- we're recreating a diner. john rich, this place isn't open for breakfast, is it, john? so we made it work for today, and a great group of folks showed up. we'll be back next week with some pancakes, i'm looking forward to it. what we have been doing is talking the voters this morning, and a down couple of belling moh students here -- belmont

students here where the debate actually happened. joe and annika, right? i remember that because my cousin's name is annika. they a watched it live. wondering what your take was. >> yeah, i just thought the way that the president, he talked about the economy, and he talked about just business in general, and i know i was really inspired and hope other young people were to get out because our president is fighting so hard. >> absolutely. your takeaway. >> yeah. i think in a generation that relies on social media for their news feed, i think a lot of things that he says, i think a lot of my fellow peers probably haven't heard before, so i think it was eye-opening to hear the hard truths, and i hope people take that into account. >> you felt it was fact checking and new information coming -- >> yeah. >> others who through the traditional news media maybe would have never heard those things. >> or don't do their own

research. >> interesting. and a debate like that hosted on all the networks, a lot of people seeing it. thank you very much. enjoy your time here at belmont. may it go more than just virtual. what's your name? >> clayton hughes. >> clayton, thanks for being here. what's your take on the debate last night? >> being from a small community in western kentucky, when we focus on and when the president focuses on opportunities for jobs and bringing back opportunities for coal, gas anding agriculture, those are the opportunities for the jobs that my community really thrives on and really, really helps us in those areas. >> do you think they -- [inaudible] the difference between joe biden's stance and the president? the president is for supporting those industries, and joe biden has flip-flopped? >> yeah. yeah. you could obviously see he flip-flopped around those. but the president being for, you know, we're for trump all the way, and he is supporting those industries. >> saw it last night, for sure.

one last question, we're going to bring in john rich, he's right here. what's your name? >> jessica. >> what did you think of the debate? >> i thought the best part was when he said you had 47 years, what have you really done. it's a lot of action with trump and a lot of talk with biden. >> yeah, really quick. >> yeah. as a musician, i've lost all my jobs this year, and president trump said the fact we can't shut down this country. our country is massive, our economy's massive, and we have to keep it going, we have to open it back up. >> open it back up. [inaudible] >> you got it, man. happy to have you all here. >> what'd you think? >> i gotta tell you, pete, i'm still an undecided voter at this point -- [laughter] i just don't know what i'm going to do, to be honest with you. you know what? it's such a stark contrast, biden is saying it's going to be a dark, dark winter. he's holding up his mask, and trump is talking about blue sky territory. i think the positive outlook for this country is the one i'm

looking for, and he got me last night. it was great. >> absolutely. so what do you think -- what's the race looking like? we've got ten days. >> i think there's an undertow of voters that have not let their outside voice be heard. their inside voice is going to be heard. >> you heard it from john rich, thank you very much. thank you all for being here. [cheers and applause] more "fox & friends" on the other side. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this new robitussin honey severe. the real honey you love... plus, the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? new robitussin honey severe. strong relief for your severe symptoms.

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