3:00 eastern today. hahead of the nsa. >> sandra: discussing the work behind the scenes as they are meeting in the oval office. thanks for being here. >> trace: nice to be with you. it flew by, didn't it? >> sandra: it was fun. good to see you. "outnumbered" starts now. speak speak to the breaking news right now is the next country te relations with israel under president trump. president trump has announced today that sudan will b begin normalize ties with israel, making it the third arab state to do so as part of broker deals on the run-up to election day. a couple short weeks ago, a few short weeks ago it was the united arab emirates and baja

bahrain. add sudan to the list and it's our understanding that this would deepen sudan's engagement in the west and follows the president's conditional agreement to remove the north african nation from the list of state sponsors of terrorism if, in fact, sudan pays compensation to american victims of terror attacks. i almost want to repeat that. that's a huge headline. when you take away that tag of state-sponsored terrorism, and do so with a strong condition. compensation for american victims, families of terror attacks. that is something that is a headline as much as the fact that israel now has a fifth nation total because remember before president trump it have been many years. 1978, 1994. you had jordan and egypt and now you add to that list. just the recent news, i would

add, saudi arabia has been talking about what it would take that nation to come to the table and do some of what we are looking at now with israel. also in that region, that part of the world, would be ground shaking. that ostracizes an enemy like iran even more so. so we are watching today. we know that shortly we should get videotaped. we can't get the live event going on right now that's happening in the oval with the secretary of state, treasury secretary steve mnuchin and a few others talking about the ground moving move today of sudan normalizing relations, a u.s. brokered deal with israel. as soon as we get the videotape we'll bring it to you life your

own "outnumbered." keep watching. this is developing. 11 days until the election and both president trump and joe biden are back on the campaign trail after that debate last night, their final debate in nashville, tennessee. it was far more controlled than the first one. there were still contentious moments on issues such as the coronavirus pandemic, the economy, immigration. the president also brought up biden's son hunter's overseas business dealings and emails claiming the former vice president's possible involvement watch. >> the emails, horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in. you and your family. i think you owe an explanation to the american people. >> i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. >> harris: shortly before last night's face-off, hunter biden's former business partner spoke out in nashville.

he said he was part of an hour-long meeting involving joe biden. where they discussed potential business plans with the chinese firm. chief white house correspondent john roberts no live in the villages in california where the president is headed. john. harris, good afternoon. we know that tony bob linsky was the ceo, the enterprise of the partnership between himself, hunter biden, jim biden, couple other individuals on a chinese energy company. we know from a treasure trove of emails handed to the senate committees on homeland security and governmental affairs and finance that joe biden was never officially listed as an officer of the company while others were. tony bobulinski taking exception with joe biden saying he never, ever spoke to his son, hunter

about his business dealings. that was an answer to a question the peter doocy put to him. he has since repeated it to number of times. bobulinski singh last night in the statement to the white house press pool prior to the debate that he knows for a fact that joe biden was in conversation with hunter biden about the business enterprise. listen. >> i've heard joe biden say he's never discussed business with hunter. that's false. i have firsthand knowledge about it because i dealt with the biden family including joe bid joe biden. >> in that same statement, bobulinski went on to say that in early may of 2017 he took a meeting with joe biden at the beverly hilton hotel that lasted about an hour where all they talked about was hunter's business. listen. >> i was introduced to joe biden by jim biden in hunter biden. am i approximately hour-long

meeting with joe, that night we discussed the bidens history, the bidens 'dealings with the chinese with which he was plainly familiar. >> it played a part in last nights debate, president trump trying to use it as an attack point against joe biden. joe biden denying and then trying to turn it back onto the president. listen. >> somebody just has a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family. what he said was damning. regardless of me, i think you have to clean it up and talk to the american people. maybe you can do it right now. >> i've never taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. we learned of this president paid 50 times the tax in china, as a secret bank account with china, does business in china. talking about me taking money. >> we're going to hear more

about this. we know that today bobulinski will be talking with staff at the senate government affairs on homeland security committee. he's also talking to the fbi. he said last night met statement that he was going to surrender his electronic devices with all these documents on them to the fbi. one of the things the fbi will be looking into is whether or not any of the officers in the company, whether it bobulinski, hunter biden, jim biden or others should have registered under the foreign agents registration act. i think the final story has not yet been told. there's a big article in the "the wall street journal" that lays it out today. it's beginning to gain more traction today. >> harris: that's a good article for people to read to kind of get the timeline. john roberts, thank you. you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. hosted a. kennedy, senior editor at "the federalist,"

mollie hemingway. executive director of serve america pac, fox news contributor marie harf. also joining us opinion editor for "the washington times" and fox news contributor, charlie hurt. great to see all of you. a quick point. the president leading the conference call. we'll be hearing from him momentarily. as soon as that happens we will come out to it and bring you the news. he's on the phone we understand with the israeli prime minister. a lot of news being made on the heels of what was already a big newsmaker last night. charlie. >> charlie: the events in the oval office today are mighty interesting. as for what happened last night, i think the three big takeaways from last night in terms of this situation with hunter biden are first of all we have the first named individual to come forward and basically accuse vice president joe biden of

lying about what he knew, how much he knew, and when he knew it regarding his son's business deals. the second thing is and then everything else is what happened during the debate. crucially important that president trump managed to get joe biden to go out there and respond to some of the accusations and sane fact he's never taken a penny. from foreign sources. that's a very, very important fact going forward especially as more stuff comes out. the third thing that i think is vitally important. we are in the midst of largely a media blackout by a lot of media organizations that refuse to cover any of this stuff. president trump managed to get some of the bare-bones facts of this scandal into the mainstream media forcing people like npr to actually address some of these issues. and once the toothpaste is out of the tube come you can't get it back in, especially in the modern media era where you have

people who have access to the internet and you can look it up. actually sort of delving to the facts of the case. >> harris: what you hope is that the video organizations are in the back looking at the facts and working their own sources. it's worth at least expressing. marie, last night was really a completely different scene than what we saw in the first debate. in your estimation, how did your candidate do? >> marie: well, i think that joe biden answered, as you played in that clip, verily clearly that he did not take money from foreign sources. he was strongest when he talked about things like health care. he talked about this election is about your families, not my family, not donald trump family. i think overall it was nice to not have so many interruptions on both sides. it seemed like the new button

may have deterred them from interrupting i each other. joe biden is ahead. he did what he had to do and donald trump had to throw bit of a hail mary pass last night and certainly was more restrained than he was in the first debate that i think still focused a little too much on grievances. because we were talking about the media and the coverage of the hunter story, we mention "the wall street journal." they looked into this china deal and they said "the venture never received propose funds from the chinese company or completed any deals. corporate records reviewed by "the wall street journal" show no role for joe biden." the journalist had looked into it and they said they haven't found a role for joe biden. i think you handled that issue pretty well last night. >> harris: mollie. >> mollie: interesting point. if you look at the text on the messages in the emails that the

whistle-blower, tony bobulinski has shared with some reporters and shared with the fbi and the senate committees. they show that part of the discussion is about how to obscure the role that joe biden is playing in the business dealings. one of them said to tony bobulinski, you cannot put into writing that joe is involved. save it for the face-to-face meeting. in another section when they are talking about how they would divide the money they say that the money for joe biden would be held by hunter biden. so having joe biden come out and say he's not receiving funding or that, having "the wall street journal" say they can't find any evidence in the documents, fact actually matches with what the whistle-blower's saying. when he says joe biden is lying when he says he's never discussed the overseas business dealings, that's a very important point. there's so much to look into. also this is a deal that didn't go through. the whole reason we are learning about this is because the senate committees put out notice about how a different deal went

through with the same chinese people that the money went more directly to hunter biden and that's one of many overseas dealings the biden family is involved in. what's interesting is in these text messages they are talking at length about how these deals are being arranged precisely because of joe biden, precisely because of his access to power. hunter biden and james biden are saying we know why we are involved. it's this access to power. it's important because joe biden said he says he's not corrupt and this is an issue of character. if there is all this dealing and whatnot going on with foreign entities, it speaks to his main campaign theme. >> harris: a couple things are significant. this is a deal that didn't go through. it would seem that the facts bear it out. that these were relatives of joe biden, his son and brothers allegedly. that i think is significant because it brings up what john roberts was asking, did

that relatives need to notify the government they were having foreign discussions. the other thing important to know is the fact of the story has not reached its apex. we are not done collecting facts as journalists. when you see "the wall street journal," it never says that's the end of the story. marie, when i hear you bring that up, it's not over in terms of the facts that are coming in. as far as we know. kennedy. >> kennedy: it would be convenient if the story were over for joe biden because it's hitting a very bad time. there are so many shoes to drop, you could bundle them up and sell them at nordstrom's. tony bobulinski, we would've heard the talking points. he would have been bobulinskied out of existence. we haven't seen it. if you're going to a modern

money don't put someone like hunter biden in charge. put someone like chelsea clinton in charge. create a foundation that makes it seem like you're doing a bunch of good stuff instead of running around like the hamburglar. >> harris: i love nordstrom's shoe rack. i just want to say. all right, i i want to catch up. charlie, you started us off with how important the breaking news is right now for the world. yes. right before an election. foreign policy, the thing people are focused on. but now it is for breaking news. to catch everybody up, we are waiting to hear of the president of the united states who is right now in the oval office. he's taking questions. he set on this conference call he said if the press has

questions for the conference call, first question to jeff mason. the president has at least five countries may want to have peace deals in the future. he insists more deals are in the works. more questions, more details to come. this has been going on for a little while. it started off with that announcement of normalized relations, u.s. brokered deal between israel and sudan. we will see, we don't know if it will be temporary. the deal is this. if you want to lose that moniker of state-sponsored terrorism, then you have to renew rate. you have got to pay american victims' families for the terror acts that you, sudan, have committed. this is a major story also because it adds to the list of countries under this current president that of normalized relations with israel, bringing the total number now to five. since 1978.

more than 50% of them in the last month or so. this has been something that the president has done pretty expeditiously. i'm going to look at my notes because we are getting more information. the president says within a very few number of months everybody is going to be in this deal. okay, what does he need by everybody? on the list, i most want to bring the panel back in. on the list is saudi arabia. i have heard you say, marie harf, that would be huge. why? >> marie: would be huge because the saudis have a long history of anti-semitism and hostility towards israel. we know there's been quiet conversations between the saudis and israelis for two reasons. economic opportunities as these two countries need to diversify their economies. also their shared hatred of iran, harris. they've decided, both of them, that iran is really the biggest threat and if they can work together to counter it might be

helpful. the biggest question for me about that list that you mentioned is whether the palestinians are anywhere on it. there are people living under occupation. they have not been part of these discussions. they do not have voting rights. they do not have the ability to live in a state of their own under their own government. that for me is the biggest? if the palestinians are anywhere in this process and if any of the arab states are pushing for them to be, like they did for so many years. >> harris: you know, as you mentioned, saudi arabia, the president had mentioned that arab nation during the first go around this and the signing of abraham accords a few weeks ago at the white house. he said saudi arabia would come along eventually. in those conversations i've had with white house chief of staff who will be on with me at 1:00 p.m. and i will ask about this. the palestinians have always

been invited to be at the table. remember it's hezbollah advocating for them. a terrorist organization. it's an impossibility. it's not exactly. i don't think you'll disagree. that hezbollah and others in the region have looked out for their own people, the palestinians, when they needed it most. >> marie: well, a small correction. it's hamas in charge of the gaza strip. hezbollah is in lebanon. their political leadership is separate from hamas. for the palestinians, the question of coming to the table has always been under what conditions. every day the israelis build new settlements that takes away from land that should and could be palestinian under a two-state solution. so every day a two-state solution becomes less and less likely. that's a tough negotiating place for the palestinians to come to the table. i think they should but i think they need to sign for the

israelis and other arab states that there is a pragmatic two-state solution that's possible and that they are committed to trying to get to it. >> harris: are you saying that you shouldn't put the good before being perfect in this. if the palestinians want to come along and thank you for the correction, hamas, if they want to come along, there is from anything that any of the president's leadership has ever told me. it's just they're going to get done what they can get done right now. i'll give you a quick last word. >> there's not a closed door but every day the israelis close more and more doors by taking over more and more land. what negotiations look like on the ground is increasingly like there is no palestinian state to even negotiate under. so i'll be really curious to see the details about this. they had supported terrorism in the past. i think it will be interesting to see this with the palestinian question will continue to be the

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>> harris: we are told that moments ago while we were in a commercial break, things have wrapped up inside the oval office. the conference call that president trump was on. announcing and further talking with the israeli prime minister about the u.s. brokered deal. normalizing relations between sudan, informally state-sponsored terror. the fifth nation, sudan, since

1978, to normalize relations with israel. the last three and just the past few weeks. i want to bring out the panel. as we are getting more notes on this, charlie, the president obviously taking questions in the oval office and that's what we'll show everybody. part of what he was asked about was this deal. he said the israeli prime minister will detail what a peace deal translates to. the president continued to engage in a back-and-forth. i want to know your thoughts on just this portion of what's breaking right now. >> charlie: so obviously the details about the deal with sudan are still fluid at the moment. i don't figure can overstate what a big deal this is, what a big deal this is in terms of realigning the geopolitical situation in the world. the fact that for literally, and especially because of this

moment in time, you have president trump running for reelection against a guy who has been in washington for 47 years, a guy who has been the answer to every foreign policy question in washington for 47 years. there is no bigger foreign policy genius in washington than joe biden. john kerry might be a quick follow behind him. but joe biden is the greatest reigning foreign policy genius in washington. i would argue he's been wrong about just about everything. but he's been magnificently wrong on this issue. the fact that you have a guy in office for four years. he didn't even really run on this part of doing things. he didn't even run, if he didn't get elected because of his foreign policy chops. yet he's able to look at the situation in the middle east, the intractable situation in the middle east, and he rethinks it. he reinvents the wheel. sometimes it drives people

crazy. but that's what he does. he winds up with a very common sense solution that could lead to peace and prosperity for millions of people and save lots of money. it's all good. on top of it, it's all gravy politically speaking because like i said, this isn't even what got him elected in the first place. but it's a fresh set of eyes and to meet it makes the stark difference, the stark choice between a guy who's been around for 47 years, eight years in the white house, and has failed to get anything done and this other guy who doesn't know everything. he's not a genius about everything. but he's willing to look at things a new way and come up with new solutions. that all of the geniuses that have been around forever never thought of and that's a huge -- that's a the single greatest argument for giving president trump another four years, as it was the reason for giving him the first four years.

>> harris: kennedy, and the george stephanopoulos town hall with george biden which has been criticized for being a softball session. at one point the former vice president was talking about, he was asked about whether or not he's willing to give credit to president trump for some of the foreign policy things he's been able to do. this was one of those things and he said lightly yeah, maybe, little bit. he said yes, little bit. and then went on and argued against the president. this isn't just a little thing if, in fact, it brings peace to the part of the world where we have spent so much blood and treasure. >> kennedy: it's also creating investment with these countries. once you buy into the world economy, it's really hard to go back to garden-variety slaughter. it's exhausting and demoralizing frankly. you wear people down. iif you are iran and saudi araba

and some of these states, you realize when there's talk, when there's world consensus that we are going to be off oil within 50 to 40 years, imagine what happened 30 years ago. it wasn't that long ago. they realized they have very immobile, inflexible economies. that's what theocratic reporting authoritarianism gives you. once they have the buy in, it's always been the republican solution to war. economic peace. i hope that we see that. by the way, this is the kind of october surprise that i love. it may not allow president trump to land the plane and reelection but it's good for the world. >> harris: that is so interesting what you said. it's sort of what i was thinking in terms of october surprise. it's a positive one. mollie, we just slid in a two-minute warning.

not a lot of time to hear from you but i don't want to miss out. >> mollie: i want to disagree slightly with what charlie said. donald trump did run opposing the swamp's consensus on how to handle war in the middle east. he rejected the idea that the u.s. needs to have a strong military footprint to keep everything stable in the middle east. he rejected the idea that you could not work out peace deals until palestinians signed on. he went to the palestinians first when they said no, he moved on. he rejected the idea that iran was the great stabilizing force in the region. by moving away from that deal come you get people agreeing that they want to work with israel. it's interesting today because khartoum was where the arab league met in 1967 deciding not to recognize israel's right to exist. it's really monumental today. >> harris: a couple things we know the president will be asked

about moments from now. he took questions on the debate. he praised his own performance. he says although he liked the first debate, his style, in terms of the stimulus, he says that the speaker wants to wait until after the election he thinks. the president of the united states on a conference call today to make a major announcement about a u.s. brokered deal between israel and sudan. and then opened the conference call up to questions by journalists. let's watch. >> thank you. do you have any questions for sudan or benjamin. only for them. >> you referenced some other countries. can you give us a sense of which countries those are. you also said the palestinians want to do something. can you give us an update on the status? >> they are both just statements. we have many countries wanting to come in. we are doing them one by one. they did sudan. they wanted to do a deal and that was in particular nice

because they've essentially been at war with israel for a long time. i don't know if it was fighting. i don't know that. probably there's been a little bit. for many years the event officially at war with sudan. now it's not only the deal was signed but there's peace. that's official. that's nice. we have five that want to come in and will have many more than that. want to come into the deal. part of the peace deal. you know what it's costing the united states, nothing. nothing. it's so nice, isn't that nice. nothing. why should we be paying? we are settling peace. psychkosovo it's like in serbia. they were killing each other for 25 years. longer than that. wait a minute, we are doing trade with each country, why don't we settle it. they were so happy. they were so happy. we settle the deal.

we do a lot of things people don't know about, fellas. >> can you walk us through what normalize relations means. >> do you want to give that, what normalized relationship, what it really means and what it means to you. go ahead. >> i'll give you an example. it's mind-boggling. a few days ago i went into a port and there was a huge ship, container ship that came in from the emirates. the first one was a week earli earlier. these were the container ships coming from the free-trade area in dubai coming to israel. they had consumer goods. they had washing machines. the cost of living for the citizens of israel. it's trade, okay.

israelis could never fly east. we had to go around the red sea, really around the arabian peninsula. it would take us hours to get anywhere. to get into the arabian peninsula because we didn't have any remissions there. now people are planning. there are tourism offices, from israel, tourism agents flocking to abu dhabi and dubai and bahrain. and the other way around, bahrain. you have tourism, trade, tourism, technology, entrepreneurs. the same thing is going to happen with sudan. each of us has what it has to offer the other. it changes the lives of people. as you said, mr. president, we're not engaging in bloodshed. not engaging in antagonism. we are engaging in cooperation for the present and the future.

we are seeing the fruits of peace right now in these days, days after signing these agreements. we've never seen anything like this. one thing that i say, and enthusiasm for most countries in the world, most people in the world across the political divide. yeah, iran is unhappy. hezbollah is unhappy. hamas is unhappy but most everybody else is very happy and they should be because it's a very good thing. if you asked me what does it feel like, it's amazing and it's fast. >> and also poor. iran is poor. hamas is poor. they weren't for three years ago. they were blowing everything up. do you think sleepy joe could've made this deal, sleepy joe, do you think you would've made this deal? somehow i don't think so.

>> well, mr. president, one thing i can tell you is we appreciate peace. we appreciate what you done. >> can you follow up on the idea of what this means. >> this will be in the history books. history registers who did what. i think it does. >> i think it's a terrific thing. it should be completed pretty soon. >> can you expand about what this means to iran? the pressure that these deals place on the around? >> ultimately iran will maybe become a member of this whole thing if you really want to know the truth. you can have everybody together with the united states and beyond the united states. you'll have other major powers involved. and with it, not have to be signed into it because it's a region but with it and i could see iran. some dad love to help iran.

i would love to get iran back on track. gdp went down 27%. they've gone from a rich country to a poor country in a period of three years and i would love to get them back on track. they just can't have nuclear weapons. that's all. it's always death to israel, that's all they shout. they can't have nuclear weapons. him they can have what they want. they should be a great nation. they are great people. i know so many iranians, i have a lot of iranian friends. it should be a great nation we wanted to be a great nation but we can have nuclear weapons. i could see iran ultimately, right now it doesn't sound like something that would happen but i see it happening. ultimately they will all be one unified family. it will be an amazing thing. probably has never happened in the middle east because the middle east is known for conflict and fighting. >> normalization and the

unified. the sale of f-35's. >> bat process is moving along. it's a good process. we've had an incredible relationship, long term. we've never had a dispute with uaa. they've always been on our side in that process is moving along i think hopefully rapidly. >> removing sedan from the state-sponsored list of terrorism. can you speak about those plans playing into th the plans. the list of state-sponsored -- >> we have been working with sudan for as long as i've been part of this administration to address the issue of state-sponsored terrorism. they did all the things they needed to do. these two leaders of sudan did all the right things. having a civilian led government inside sudan.

the rationale for them being designated as state sponsors no longer made sense. we wanted to make sure that victims of the terror had compensation so we have accounted for that. $335 million will go to the victims from those terror attacks. sudan is fully complied. their leaders have done great work and we want to support the civilian led government. we want them to be successful so it would be appropriate that we would lift this. it will help the sudanese people and the government. you'll see trade not only between israel and sudan but between the united states and sudan as well. >> sudan has great potential on trade and other things. they relay -- it could be very, very successful wonderful country and i think it will be. it's been hampered by what's going on in the world. >> can you ask plain how that connects to the deal with isra israel. >> they are connected in the sense that the sudanese leadership, they have one thing in common. they are building out their

economy. creating democratic institutions, all the things the sudanese people have been demanding. they are connected in the sense that the sudanese leadership is driving towards a really good outcome and improve life for the people of sudan and we think for the broader region in north africa. >> and with the leaders on the phone, they've been incredible leaders. i will say they have been incredible. great leadership. which you haven't had in the past. >> obviously you're going to hit the road next couple days. are you envisioning meetings in washington. what is it like to try to do something like this while campaigning? >> it's my life. do i have a choice? this is all things i've been working on and the campaign. the campaign begins. i think last night was very, very successful. we've gotten great reviews, great polls, great everything. 91%. it was an exciting night,

tremendous audience i understand. bigger than they thought. it was certainly an exciting night. this is my day job. i have to do this. it's really important. we will have them along with some other countries that you will be hearing about coming probably simultaneously and then ultimately were going to have a big reunion at the end where everybody's here and everybody's going to be signed and we expect that saudi arabia will be one of those countries. highly respected. the king and the crown prince, they are highly respected in the middle east. mohammed from uae, highly respected, a warrior, he's a great warrior. they will all come together. we are going to have a big beautiful party of the end, okay. and you'll be there. okay? anybody else have a question? >> i think everybody who watched the debate last night.

he seemed much more calm and measured at the podium. how much of it was you kind of trying to change your strategy. or playing by the debate commission's rules. >> i think the other is more effective in terms of business and life. the first one. i thought i did great. certain groups of very aggressive people that loved the first debate. this was better. this was obviously more popular way of doing it. i wanted to play by the rules. i felt very strongly about it. it's two different styles. i am unable to do different styles have you had to but this seemed to be much more popular. >> would you do another debate? >> i don't think there's any reason. i think we are leading a lot of states that you don't know abo about. the pollsters may be the worst there are. >> taking responsibility for the pandemic rates because i always take responsibility and i've done a great job the people around me have done a great job,

just like these people have done a great job. the pandemic people, what they've done for ventilators and equipment and stocking. governors that have absolutely nothing. they had nothing on their shelves. we stopped them. i those governors, if they're honest -- we stocked them. i've had governors say it's the best thing they've seen anyone doing anything. there's a lot of good governors. they've done a good job. they had nothing. they didn't have ventilators. didn't have downs or masks or logos or anything. we got them. think of it. ventilators are tough. not one person with all of this going on, not one person who needed a ventilator didn't get it. it's very untrue in other countries. in other countries, very few people were able to get. we are supplying ventilators to many other countries because they are very hard to make. they are complex, hard to make. very expensive. i think we've done a great job.

>> speaker pelosi. >> i think we can come ashore. i think we can. >> the president has been very clear in his instructions to me that if we can get the radio were going to do it. we've been speaking to the speaker. i would say we've offered compromises. the speaker on a number of issues, still dug in. if she wants to compromise, there will be a deal. we have made lots of progress on lots of areas but there still some significant differences that we are working on. >> one of the big differences and i set it it last night loud and clear. she wants to bail out poorly run democrats states. they are poorly run both in terms of crime and in terms of economics. we just don't want that. we want covid related. she wants to be allowed poorly run democrat states and that's a problem because you're talking about tremendous amounts of money and we don't want to reward areas of our country who have not done a good job and a

lot of them come a lot of those areas have not done a good job on medical and covid frankly. if you look at new york and you look at some others. it's been rough. it's been very rough. but we don't want to do that. we are talking and we'll see what happens but at this moment, i would say that -- i actually think nancy would rather wait until after the election. she think it's a good point for the election but i think it's against her because the american people know it's her that stopping the money going to th them. i really believe it. i think she views it as a good election point perhaps. she's good for november 3rd. i'd like to see the people get the money. i don't think she wants the people to get the money before the election. i don't think that's a good point for her. but we want the people to get the money. it wasn't their fault. it was china's fault. it was china's fault. the plague came in from china. okay. that's about it. no, no, no, no, no that's

enough. thank you. >> armenia and azerbaijan. >> we are working with armenia. we have a very good relationship. they are good people, so dedicated, they are incredible people and we will see what happens. >> the leader. >> i don't want to say. we'll see what happens. good progress being made with respect to that. armenia, we have a lot of people living in this country from armenia originally from armenia. they're great people. we are going to help them. >> prime minister, sir. you mentioned potential scenario with iran. >> i think of the end, iran, yeah, i can see them. i can see it. i would say, yeah, sure. go ahead. >> missin>> this is jeff mason. he has a mascot that i think is the largest mask i've ever seen.

i don't know if you can hear them but he wants to hear, when it's all finished and everybody is in the deal i said i wouldn't be surprised to see iran be very friendly also. you have everybody unified. i think that iran will be in some way involved. what do you think about that? >> well, i was beginning to say that when i spoke in the american congress i didn't say i was opposed to any view. i said i was opposed to that deal. that deal had all sorts of restrictions and did not condition any change require any change. iran essentially increased its aggression after the deal then reduced in. with ballistic missiles. the enrichment of uranium, atomic bombs, all sorts of threats in the region. if a new deal is offered. that's what i said when i spoke

to the u.s. congress, different deal is offered, it would be welcome. i think that will only happen if iran faces strong opposition. if you are soft on iran, you're not going to have peace with iran. if you are strong and presented from achieving -- i think they might agree to a better deal, a real deal. i think it is something no one will be opposed to. >> and everybody is unified and this is all done and it won't be a long period of time, iran will be in some way involved. if not part of the deal, they'll be very happy and you know what they are tired of fighting. they are tired of what's going on. those are great people. they wanted end to it. they want and end to it. in fact if we win the election, they don't want me to stay

wedded but i say if, it's an election, if we win the election, one of the first calls i'll get will be from iran. let's make a deal. one of the first calls i'll get. they don't want me to win and russia doesn't want me to win. what's unique about those two countries, they both don't want me to win. that's okay. i think were going to win. i think of you start looking at what's happening in the states and the votes that are coming in and the amount of votes coming in and the great red wave hasn't hit yet. it hits in a few days. it's going to be a great red wave like you've never seen before. a wave like you've never seen before. it's going to be all red. it's going to be a thing of beauty. have a good time everybody. speak to the president of the united states after announcing a major deal that he brokered, the united states brokered i should say.

by his leadership with israeli prime minister and the leader of sudan and you saw him pick up the phone to the prime minister of israel joining that conference call and getting asked in answering a couple questions during that whole tape that we watched great i want to bring back the panel. kennedy. your topline thoughts. >> kennedy: the president seems very relaxed and comfortable today and i know we got a couple questions about the debate and i think it's easier for him to have this conversation. i think he probably feels very comfortable with how we did last night and what i would like to hear from joe biden, these are obviously great developments. if joe biden is elected, does he come at he turn his back on an agreement like this? how does he build upon it and what's his vision for the middle east on bringing in some of those other countries that the president talked about.

>> harris: that such a great question. the president went on talking about a big reunion at the end of all of this where he'll have everybody over to sign, big party. he specifically said saudi arabia is expected to jo join. i want to come back to you on that point. your question is critical. with the next person if he were to win, joe biden, lock this type of progress? -- block this type of progress? >> kennedy: yes, absolutely. it seems what the president is doing here is working on the periphery of the middle east and working towards the middle, peace in the middle east between palestine and israel. instead of starting with that he's going from the outside and working in. how does joe biden continue that and does he give the president credit? >> harris: we got a taste of politics, charlie, the president talked about the coronavirus

stimulus bill and said it seems nancy pelosi wants to wait until after the election and he advised that's not necessarily a good idea for her. >> charlie: i think he's probably right. another area of stark contrast between the candidates that we saw last night was the difference between what president trump wants to do about pushing forward safely with therapeutics, immunization plans, all of that terms, and opening up the country. this dark winter campaign that joe biden is running where he's trying, he clearly wants mask mandates and to shutdown the economy. stark contrast. i think i know where voters go with that stark choice. one thing going back to the situation in the middle east, i think we have the answer about what joe biden will do. joe biden has made clear he wants to get back into bed with iran. you can't get back into a bed

with iran and keep these deals that the president has hammered out with the new allies of israel who despise iran. >> harris: mollie. >> mollie: spent a very good week for donald trump. peace breaking out further in the middle east. you have the fact that he's completed nearly a first term without invading the country which might seem like a little bar but it's one that many presidents have not been able to meet particularly in recent history. in the debate last night where he asked joe biden, you don't want to end the oil industry, do you? joe biden for reasons nobody can quite explain said you're darn right i do. and let me explain in detail why, with donald trump sitting there, being like i can't believe i'm so blessed. with that, the foreign policy, domestic policy and the hunter biden business, donald trump is having a pretty good week. joe biden is having a pretty bad week at not the best time for joe biden. >> harris: marie, quickly.

i could hear calls from the state of texas saying that the oil industry and fracking was another area where there is a cleanup on aisle 7 with joe biden at least an attempted one. pennsylvania in the wings. why did he say what he said. >> marie: he made clear he was talking about a transition away from oil and gas and an end to oil subsidies. the oil companies are people pushing to transition away from oil and gas. they are leading the way in many respects on renewables. i think we saw a little bit of politics there in the oval office going back to the announcement. prime minister netanyahu is incredibly political actor, he supported mitt romney in 2012. he's in trouble politically at home. his friend donald trump is in a little trouble politically at home. we should not discount the fact that there's a reason this is happening 11 days before the election. he was in many ways a political event, harris. >> harris: everybody, wow. a lot of breaking news that we

all handled together and i appreciate being with you on this fine friday. thank you to everybody was watching. i'll be back with "outnumbered overtime" after a very quick commercial break. functiona

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