china, foreign policy, biden economics you get poor and they get richer but that's all for tonight. see you next sunday when the see you next sunday when the jillian: it is monday, october 26th. exactly one month since president trump announced amy coney barrett as his supreme court pick. the senate is set to confirm her tonight. but not every republican is on-board. the lone descent in a live report. >> biden has a lid on again. i guess he figures if he keeps the lid on, he's not going to make a stupid statement. >> if president trump gets elected we're going to be in a different world. todd: pressure is on, eight days from the election, president trump keeps his foot on the gas as even biden admits the president could win on november 3rd. jillian: three sisters dubbed maga nuns with a viral

appearance. todd: "fox & friends first" on a monday starts right now. ♪ i want something just like this. todd: this is the chainsmokers, it also became the gentleman from the cold play. chris martin. jillian: i love this song. i don't know what it is. i just enjoy it. todd: and they cut it off immediately. jillian: as soon as i said that. todd: good morning. you're watching "fox & friends first" on this monday morning. i'm todd piro. jillian: i'm jillian mele. good morning to you. we're eight days away from election day. today, president trump is set to rally voters in pennsylvania, joe biden doesn't have any campaign events scheduled. todd: this comes after the two sat down for separate interviews on 60 of minutes. griff jenkins has all the highlights kne. >> reporter: both candidates of both parties sat down for

interviews on the eve of election with 60 minutes. this time, one of them walked out in frustration. watch. >> i see joe biden giving soft ball after soft ball. i've seen all of his interviews. he's never been asked a question that's hard. >> you're president. >> you started with me. your first statement was are you ready for tough questions. >> are you? >> i think we have enough of an interview here, hope. okay? that's enough. let's go. i'll see you. thanks. >> be careful. >> reporter: before the president cut that interview short, both he and biden made their case for why they should be president, addressing some of the most freshing issues face -- pressing issues facing the country from the coronavirus to the economy. >> you have held a steady lead in the national and state polls.

but so did hillary clinton four years ago. could donald trump still win this? >> sure. i'm one of those folks who are competitors, it's not over until the bell rings and i feel superstitious when i predict anything other of than it's going to be a hard fight. we feel good about where we are but i don't underestimate how he plays. >> reporter: now, yesterday on the trail, president trump held a rally in londondairy, new hampshire while joe and jill biden appeared in a virtual concert. today, president trump heads to pennsylvania, a battleground state that could be a difference-maker. you see biden holding a narrowing lead, 5 points in fox's latest poll. now, president trump's making three stops in pennsylvania, two of them will be rallies and there are no campaign events listed today for joe biden. just a snapshot of how unique and different this year's election is. todd, jillian. jillian: yes, it is, griff.

thank you very much. todd: vice president mike pence joined mark levine laying out why president trump is the right choice for the next four years. >> president trump has kept every promise he made to the american people. and seen our nation through the worst global pandemic in 100 years, where as we sit here today we're literally weeks away from having a coronavirus vaccine and being able to put this pandemic in the past. the president and i believe the best is yet to come, with four more years with president donald trump in the white house, we're going to distribute that vaccine and we're going to defeat the virus and then we're going to revive this american economy bigger and better than ever before. jillian: one issue lingering over the biden campaign is the alleged e-mails of his son, hunter biden. the former vp slamming rots on his son hunter's alleged business dealings. >> when you put the combination of russia, guliani, the

president together, it's just what it is, it's a smear campaign because he has nothing he wants to talk about. what is he running on? what is he running on? jillian: congressman jim jordan who reviewed the purported e-mail's from hunter's laptop thinks otherwise. >> we have the eyewitness, mr. bobulinski, who said she's are authentic, these are real, the big guy in one of these e-mails means joe biden and he spoke to former vice president biden. this is as real as it gets. here's the fundamental question. why won't joe biden say they're not real? jillian: tony bobulinski told fox news that joe biden knew and was involved in his son's overseas business dealings. todd: five minutes after the hour now. right now, a live look from the senate floor. connecticut senator, democrat senator chris murphy right there, one of many lawmakers debating ahead of a vote to

confirm judge tiewrt the supreme court, -- judge amy coney barrett to the supreme court court. >> i've given you a great you new supreme court justice, by the way. that will take place on monday. the democrats are thrilled. monday. three of them, all great. jillian: jackie yo ibanez joins live with more. >> reporter: the confirmation vote is expected to take place around 8:00 eastern tonight. in a rare sunday session, senators voting 51-48 to limit debate on judge amy coney barrett's nomination. the party line vote all but you assures republicans have enough to fill justice ruth bader ginsburg's seat. >> amy coney barrett of the u.s. court of appeals for the seventh circuit was a stellar nominee in every single respect. >> the contradiction will be a stain on the leader's forehead and on the entire republican caucus, if it continues.

>> reporter: two republicans voted against advancing the nominee, maine senator susan collins and alaska senator lisa murkowski. collins said she would vote against any justice nominee this close to the election. she said she wanted to be consistent after they did not vote on merrick garland. senator mor coul murkowski is eo vote for barrett. kamala harris is slamming the process on the campaign trail. listen. >> the supreme court nomination, saying it's legitimate, because how dare you try to slip somebody into ruth bader ginsburg's seat on the united states supreme court for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in our land while the american people are trying to vote for who will be our next president. >> reporter: senators also clashing on whether vice president mike pence should preside over the vote, at least five of his staffers including

the chief of staff and a close aide and an outside advisor have tested positive for the coronavirus. the vice president, however, has tested negative. jillian, todd. todd: thanks for the update, jackie. jillian: if confirmed, judge barrett's first case could be decide who win t's whit wins th. cases related to absentee voting are being heard in pennsylvania. there is a state order in place, allowing officials to count ballots by november 6. republicans wanted no ballots to be counted after election day. todd: a fox news alert now, china hitting major u.s. defense companies with sanctions over armed sales to taiwan, lockheed martin, boeing defense and ray raytheon will be penalized. beijing regards taiwan as its own territory that can be annexed by force if necessary.

did you see this, violence erupting at a massive jews for trump rally in new york city. rioters threw rocks at a trump cara van from an overpass. other pr protesters recorded themselves chucking eggs. rudy guliani was spotted in the parade. several people were arrested after fights broke out in times square. the nypd is investigating. jillian: nancy pelosi plans to run for house speaker again if democrats keep their majority of. but congresswoma congresswoman a ocasio-cortez is not ready to support her just yet. >> we have to see what race as they come, see what candidates are there. i am committed to making sure we have the most progressive candidates there. if speaker pelosi is the most progressive candidate, then i will be supporting her. jillian: aoc packed pelosi in 2018 after the speaker promised

to only hold the position for four years. todd: the los angeles dodgers are a win you away from a world series title after grabbing the game early in -- grabbing the lead early in game five. >> that is hit into left center field, back at the wall, it is 3-0 dodgers, peterson with a blast. the running coming to the plate. todd: the monster home run that you saw, the last clip, that was from josh peterson. la leads the series 3-2. arguably this thing should have been done after last night, if the dodgers had won game four. game six is tomorrow night, only on -- jillian: fox. and tomorrow night you could have a chance to win the bet between the two of us. you said dodgers in game six. i said seven. todd: and we bet literally nothing. but time now, 10 minutes after the hour. president trump and joe biden making their case with just eight days to go.

>> if biden wins, china wins, if we win, new hampshire wins and america wins. >> the character of the country in my view is literally on the ballot. todd: pollster justin wall yen says the path to 270 runs through two states. he breaks it down, next. jillian: and ice cube has a message to the critics. >> i'm not playing politics with this. um willing to meet with anybody who could bring this to life. robinhood believes now is the time to do money.

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todd: welcome back. we're just eight days out from election day and the path for either presidential candidate to reach 270 electoral votes still really anybody's guess. despite biden's polling lead, there are few root routes throue battleground that could fell in the president's favor. just continuajustin wall yenen .

you see votes for 2020. 16 michigan, 11 arizona and 18 ohio. here's what the polling currently shows. you can see biden is leading in the polls in all but ohio. you, though, say there is a path for a trump victory, a bunch of scenarios. the first one, basically under the latest scenario trump would win wisconsin, michigan, ohio and florida, joe biden would take pennsylvania and arizona. walk us through that one. >> sure. so the key to keep in minted for all these -- mind for all these scenarios is trump can lose 36 electoral college votes and still win. numerically, biden is winning in all these items except ohio. statistically speaking the only really larger margins, win

margins beyond the margin of error are in michigan and pennsylvania. in this case, what you'll sees got to win -- trump has to win michigan in order to win in this scenario. that's his most challenging space. and yes, he's going to perform very, very well amongst rural voters. he has to perform well amongst urban black voters. he's exhibiting some strength among urban black males. todd: i think the next one is a little more likely, based upon the huge polling lead in michigan, if i were to gander a guess i would say he does not -- trump cuss not win michigan. under this scenario, president trump would have to win arizona, wisconsin, ohio and florida, that seems to be the lynchpin right there. under this scenario biden would win his sometimes home state of pennsylvania, sometimes it's delaware and then of course biden would win michigan. >> right. you're absolutely right. florida in all of these things is so important, not only because it was so close last

time, but because it's early and there's so much voting going on there. there's going to be a signal to all these states, including arizona, which is going to vote later. how many people end up going to the polls may having to do with what they see in florida. in arizona it's critical that trump maintains the proportion of latino voters he got in 2016 which he did well with. if he's able to maintain that, he could win arizona and able to win that scenario. todd: we already know there's so many states that are not going to require their ballots in by november 3rd. that's going to probably delay the results. but you throw another scenario into the mix, justin wallen. what if they tie in these states beating to a possible electoral college tie. under your scenario, trump would win ohio, pennsylvania and florida. >> that's right. and for this situation to play out, trump has to maintain at least his strength among rural voters. each one of these states, that's

the key. it's really kind of his bastian. this is where he loses enough electoral college votes where he has to keep 57 electoral college votes, that's with pennsylvania, ohio and florida, really are able to do for him and that's rural voters as well as of of course white males age 25 and older. todd: nearly 59 million votes are already in as early voters flood the polls. can you hear me, justin? you got me there. >> i can, yes. todd: what's your number one take-away from these ridiculously high early voting numbers? >> it is ridiculous. it's amazing. it's unprecedented. some folks are saying we're going to have as many as 150 million people vote in this election and that's more than any election since 1908, 65% of the voting population. that's up over the 56% in 2016. so it's incredibly huge. and trump has to perform well amongst those who are going to

the polls. what we're seeing is there's a democratic advantage among people who are voting by mail. if president trump is able to overperform over folks who are voting in person, he still has one of those paths to victory we were talking about earlier. todd: we appreciate your time as always. thanks for hanging out with us, me and the touch screen. jillian: the senate set to confirm judge amy coney barrett to the supreme court tonight. what does this mean for the president's legacy? our next guest says the constitution will be protected for decades to come. plus, the ultimate sister act at president trump's rally. the nuns who are going viral. expecto patronum!

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jillian: good morning. welcome back. in a matter of hours, senate republicans will vote to confirm judge amy coney barrett to the supreme court despite democrats' delay tactics. todd: what does today's vote mean for the nation's highest court? general counsel mike barry joins us now of. thanks for being here. let's go live to the senate floor. we can watch the discussion, if you will, debate, if you will. chris murphy, senator from connecticut, still going strong there. you saw him at the top of the show. he's still going strong now. now that we're almost done with this quote, unquote, noise portion. what is the main take-away that you have that the american people should know when it comes to the presence of judge amy coney barrett on the supreme court? >> thanks for having me. and like most of america, first liberty institute is watching closely to see what happens and by dinner time tonight, at least for most of us in the country, we should have a confirmation vote supporting judge amy coney

barrett becoming justice barrett and she will be installed as the ninth justice, replacing the late justice ginsburg and her confirmation is fantastic for this country and fantastic for the constitution. if you value your first amendment rights, your religious freedom, your second amendment rights, any of your rights under the constitution, then justice barrett is the person you want to see on that court. she will stand up for the constitution and she will rule as a justice should. according to the text of that document. jillian: can i ask you something, though? do you think as the noise, you how todd referenced it, the noise and the delay tactics and everything we've seen over the course of the last few weeks, even going back to brett cav you gnaw, d -- brett kavanaugh, do u think we would have seen this if this were under any administration besides the trump administration. >> absolutely not. this typically happens to republican nominees, going all the way back to the nomination of robert bork and clarence

thomas and so on and so forth. you see democrats doing this for republican nominees, not really the other way around. what is more important for americans to pay attention to are the tactics that the democrats might use after this confirmation. they've already threatened to pack the court and that's the real danger here. that would destroy the supreme court and that would essentially make the justices a super legislature which is not what the constitution says and that's not what americans want. todd: when the history books write their accounts of the trump presidency, how much will his legacy be shaped by his judicial appointments? >> i think a president's greatest legacy is often in their supreme court appointments because of course a president can only serve for eight years. these justices serve for life. some of whom, such as judge barrett, if and when she is confirmed tonight, she could serve for 40 years or longer, that's 40 years of issuing decisions, upholding the rule of law, upholding the constitution. so my children and my

grandchildren are likely to see decisions issued by a justice barrett, long after presidents have come and gone. jillian: thank you very much for your insight. we appreciate it. have a good day. >> thanks for having me. todd: joe biden opening up plans about creating a commission to investigate the court system. >> we're going to have to do that. you're going to find there's a lot of conservative constitutional scholars are saying it as well. the last thing we need to do is turn the supreme court into a political football, whoever has the most votes gets whatever they want. presidents come and go. supreme court justices stay for generations. jillian: senator ted cruz calls biden's commission proposal, quote, really chilling. he claims it's an abuse of power and will destroy the independence of the judicial system. it is 26 minutes after the hour officially free, felicity huffman finishing her punishment in the college admissions

scandal. todd: with eight days to go, who has more ground to gain before election day? our political panel debates next.

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it is good to see both of you. thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> good to see you. jillian: kelly, i want to start with you. you see the crowds at the president's rally, it's really hard to deny the enthusiasm that's there. are you a little surprised that at this point joe biden's not out more? >> no. you have to remember, we are in a pandemic and my heart and prayers goes out to anyone whose family is affected by it and thank you to our first responders that are out there fighting every day. last friday, we had the highest coronavirus in the u.s., and so people are concerned about their health and safety. and so i think it's smart. biden is still out there on the campaign trail but he's doing it smart. when you have these big rallies, they're very concerned about people's health and safety. jillian: so to that point, joseph, there are still a lot of people out there who criticize the president for holding these rallies, obviously people close together, a lot of them not wearing masks. he still does get that

criticism. the question is, there's no doubt the enthusiasm is there in his base. in doing these rallies, do you think the president is able to latch onto more voters who are perhaps at this point, if any, still undecided or is he just rallying his base? >> by every statistical measure, the individuals who are undecided at this point are few. we're looking at probably close to 3% as opposed to the 7% that we would typically see at this point in time. additionally, we're talking about the fact that we know statistically speaking most of the people that will be coming out to the polls on the election day are more heavily going to be republican than democratic and so i think that's why you see the strategy that the trump campaign is employing to knock on doors until election day, to really try to, number one, shore up their base and number two, make sure that of that sliver of people that are undecided, the sliver of people who are not sweared by the 24/7 assault on

the republican party when it comes to actually the social distancing, those are the people that i think that president trump and the republican party is trying to target down the home stretch. jillian: let's take a look at both of their schedules. the president spending a lot of time in pennsylvania here as you can see. he's going to be there on monday. on tuesday he'll be in michigan, wisconsin and then nebraska after that. joe biden will stay in georgia on tuesday. we'll take a look at a couple of these charts. the president gaining some strength in north carolina. you can see that has gone up significantly. also taking a look in florida, where the president is gaining support there as well. and then finally, ending out in ohio where the president is winning there, as of october 16th. so kelly, when you see -- look, everybody knows, especially after the last election, not to necessarily put all your stock in the polls. however, when you look at that last graphic and you see ohio and you see since about a week or so ago the president now winning in ohio, what does that tell you in this last minute

push? >> i think that with every poll there's a margin of error. according to some national polls, biden is leading in all the polls. but ultimately, it's going to be up to the voters. we have over 50 million people that are voting, voting right now, and going to vote on election day and ultimately they'll decide. polls are only as good as they are but we'll have to wait and ultimately see what the voters decide and who they want in 2020. jillian: joseph, final word to you. >> look, here's the truth. polls, national polls we can throw them out. we're talking about key swing states, florida, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, these are the places where president trump needs to finish and finish strong. i think, again, we're looking at these trend lines. joe biden in the last debate i think basically made some read my lips size whoppers of missteps with blue collar workers who want to talk about fracking, who want to talk about an america as they know it, not

this reimagined america that democrats are proposing where they're going to pack the courts and turn a blind eye to corruption. i think those are the things that are resonating with voters. that's why we see the the constricting of the race. i think the republican party has to focus on the impacts on mainstream and those individuals struggling with the aftermath of covid-19. jillian: thank you very much for both of your opinions and for joining us. we appreciate it. have a good day. >> thank you. be safe. jillian: you heard me mention and i kind of like took a breath as i said, if there are any undecided voters out there. truth be told, there are potentially some votes that could be stolen at this point but there are record numbers of people who have already voted out, they're early voting. this is all of 2016, 58.5 million early voting tally and you've seen lines in states all across the country. todd: this is new york city. you can see some of the line

moving, some of it not moving. there's some people there in the big apple talking about their vote. >> i've been living in this neighborhood for 36 years. this is the most i've ever seen in my life. >> the greatest election of our lifetime. i'm almost 70 years old. i've never seen something like this. >> unbelievable. unbelievable. the line is long. jillian: i know people in new york who stood in line for four hours, five hours, six hours, depending of of the -- depending on the location. people overall have said they don't really mind standing in the lines. they want their vote to be heard, they want their voice to be heard. i heard from people in other states, including pennsylvania, where they had the mail-in ballot or absentee ballot and they dropped it off in a secure location where there is a guard to make sure that it's not taken or messed with or anything like that and people have said in those cases, some haven't even waited in line. so i think it just matters on

your location. todd: it does seem per your discussion earlier with kelly and joseph that the gop is narrowing the early voting gap, just take a look. this is week on week, october 18th to october 25th. you see the numbers there, a wider gap there last week versus this upcoming week there. that said, keep in mind, two qualifications here. that is how they registered, not necessarily how they voted. and two, you mentioned your friends there on the line. we are seeing long wait in a number of lines. if i were the republican campaigns throughout the country, i would actually urge early voting because you don't want to get into a situation where on election day people go and they see an eight hour, 10 hour wait and say you know what, this is an important election but it's not worth eight to 10 hours of my time. i'm not going to vote. and if all the republicans or they number of republicans are waiting until the last minute like we anticipate, that could be a problem for republicans across the country. jillian: keep this in mind too.

the u.s. could see the highest voter turnout since 1908. 150 million americans are expected to vote, which is just a mind dash blowing number. -- mind-blowing number. it's exciting to see that people are taking take stake in what they believe in. todd: i remember that 1908 election. jillian: just like yesterday. todd: here's justin wallen talking about the record high turnout. >> some folks say we'll have as many as 150 million people vote in this election, that's more than any election since 1908. that's up over 56% in 2016. so it's incredibly huge. and trump has to perform well amongst those who are going to the polls. there's a democratic advantage among people who are voting by mail. if trump is able to overperform amongst people who traditionally republicans do better with, folks who are voting in person, he still has one of those paths

to victory. todd: obviously we're yo we'reg looking ahead to election day. i can't way to see what the data shows. it is going to be absolutely fascinating. jillian: absolutely. we'll be here for all of it with you. in the meantime, we have other headlines we're following. including this. two navy crew members killed in a training crash have been identified. lieutenant ryanan ross and morgan garrett died when their plane went down in alabama. ross was the instructor, garrett was her student. the navy says their devotion to the country will not be forgotten. no one on the ground was hurt. it's not clear what caused the crash. todd: felicity huffman paid her debt to society. her representative said she finished one year of supervised release. she served 11 days in prison last year and did 250 hours of community service. huffman pleading guilty to paying bribes to get her daughter's sat score changed.

lori loughlin and her husband pleaded guilty as well. a 2-year-old iowa boy back home thanks to a k-9. the police dog being credited with finding the missing toddler and their dog. jillian: police say the dog tracked the boy through several achacres of wood and along a crk more than half a mile from home. it is 20 minutes until the top of the hour. an ugly display by anti-trump protesters in new york city. todd: attacks on a jews for trump caravan when we come back. robinhood believes now is the time to do money. without the commission fees. so, you can start investing today wherever you are - even hanging with your dog. so, what are you waiting for? download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood.

todd: white house chief of staff mark meadows saying the president's latest israeli peace deal could be the third of many. >> more countries to come, as many as four to five. we have the hope of finally

having peace in the middle east because of this president's leadership. jillian: despite the deal, the israeli militariy mains on alert, cracking down on terror tunnels built under the gaza border. jillian.todd: trey yingst has t their efforts. >> reporter: good morning. despite efforts by several arab countries to make peace with israel, a solution to the israeli, palestinian conflict is still far away. the israeli military did uncover a new tunnel from gaza into israel, just last week, amid steady tension between hamas and the israeli military that includes monthly and often weekly rocket fire. the structure begins in the southern part of gaza and crosses over into israeli territory. it was found with new technology being installed along the border. take a look. >> we're finding and detecting, makes us more efficient the next time. there's a concrete barrier that

was built, it's very, very helpful. >> reporter: behind me, the israeli military is completing its final section of underground wall between israel and gaza. just last week, a tunnel was detected that the israelis said was dug by hamas and could be used to send fighters into the southern part of the country during the next round of conflict. >> we see them all the time, preparing themselves, every day. they are getting stronger on the other side but we are preparing to be ready for that, even tod today. >> reporter: the discovery is interesting in the context of the recent normalization deal between sudan and israel. in the past we saw the sudanese helping factions inside gaza like hamas smuggle weapons using these sorts of tunnels. now they're looking to sign a larger peace agreement with the israelis. todd, jillian. jillian: thank you. todd: a jews for trump rally through new york city descending into chaos after violent agitators throw rocks, eggs and

allegedly pepper spray at participants. watch this. [crowd noises] jillian: carley shimkus with fox news headlines 24/7, sirius siriusxm with hour of on what happened. >> hundreds of cars traveled from coney island to trump tower before heading to an event in brooklyn yesterday. unfortunately, this event was marred by violent clashes. videos posted to twitter shows cars with trump flags on them being pelted with eggs and rocks. a family of seven reports being pepper sprayed inside their vehicle as well. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani made an appearance at this event. seven people were arrested in times square in connection to a

violent altercation. certainly, guys, not a peaceful event yesterday. todd: still can't believe this is the norm in the united states of america these days. it is unbelievable. meantime, ice cube standing his ground against the critics. >> that's right. ice cube was on fox news yesterday with chris wallace. he defended himself for working with the trump administration on a plan to support black americans. take a listen. >> they listened, heard what i had to say, and pumped up their plan and presented it to the people. i told everybody that, you know, i'm not playing politics with this. no matter who is the president, i'm going to get up and did to work in the -- go to work in the morning. >> earlier this year the rapper unveiled his plan to support black americans, it includes banking, police and prison reform as well as elimination of all confederate statues among other things. the president has unveiled his platinum plan which includes promises to create 500,000 new black-owned businesses. ice cube says that the trump

administration reached out to him and actually folded some of his ideas into the platinum plan. he also says that the biden campaign reached out to him as well but they wanted to start working with him after the election and the trump administration wanted to start working with him right away, guys. jillian: okay. so i'm going to go out on a limb and say it probably takes a lot to be the center of attention when you're in the presence of the president, however, there are a few ladies who have pretty much done that. >> that's right. very good way of putting it, jillian. this grabbed people's attention over the weekend. three nuns were spotted seated behind the president during his rally in ohio. now, there's some social media debate over whether or not these nuns were real. some people accuse the trump administration of planting them there. but several twitter accounts identified them as sisters of the children of mary in newark, ohio. so certainly not something you see every day. and it got a lot of you attention on social mead -- attention on social media on saturday. todd: jillian did the tease to this story twice, just did the

toss. i would say you and the story are becoming a habit. jillian: that's one of your better ones, todd. todd: you're welcome, nation. i asked her if i could have the wrap-up for just that moment. jillian: he did. just for that. you're welcome. thanks, carley. >> i'll see you guys. todd: time now, 49 minutes after the hour. a lot of questions about biden care, big one, what would it cost you. jillian: a healthcare expert says part of the plan could bankrupt healthcare systems. she explains, next. ♪ money, money, money,

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todd: welcome back. is biden care the new obamacare? the former vice president's rebranded plan has left voters

with more questions than answers. >> what i'm going to do is pass obamacare with a public option. become biden care. not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan. what we're going to do, it's going to cost some money, it will cost over $750 billion over 10 years to do it. todd: who is going to pay for this? here to break it down, healthcare expert and business analyst, seth dennison. it all comes down to the money, seth. where's it coming from? >> i don't know. i don't think the biden camp really knows either. even in some of the early data that they put out, they're about $500 billion short of getting to the actual number. and this is -- i've said this a number of time. people lie. numbers don't. if you're going to roll out an expensive system like healthcare, public option for anyone that wants it, you have to do the math right and the math just doesn't add up. todd: putting the money aside for a moment, what are the main points the american people

peoplneed to knowabout biden ca. >> there's certainly some things that we can all get behind within what he rolled out. the trump administration said they're going to do a lot of the same things, things like end surprise billing. a place where someone can think they're in network and get billed months later for thousands of dollars. biden proposed we do things like allow the american government to negotiate drugs under part d. i'm in favor of that. there are of other things like allowing consumers to buy drugs from foreign markets that have been approved, all of these things are positive. there are certainly negatives in there. some of the negatives are surrounding massive inflation of spending. we have a health insurance problem in the united states but we also have a healthcare problem in the united states. and when you squeeze the balloon without letting air out, the money gets moved around. we must address the driving cost

of healthcare which increases the cost of health insurance. todd: you mentioned money. our research shows $800 billion is the total cost of a public option over 10 years. what is this going to do to our balance sheet? >> well, our balance sheet is already headed in the wrong direction. and many analysts project that by 2050, the united states without any more spending will be almost 200% of our gdp. annual gdp across the country, not just federal spending. so this is just going to add to that significantly unless we do the opposite, we roll out something like this and we do massive tax hikes. i'm talking significant tax hikes, not just to the top 1% or the top wage earners and corporations, but this is going to trickle its way throughout the entire populace. todd: what will this do if i have private insurance and i want to do it, 20% of private

insurance plans could be gone by 2028 under this plan. we thank you for your time. healthcare versus health insurance, that has to be the focus and it never seems like it truly is. seth denson, we appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thanks, todd. jillian: coming up in the next hour of "fox & friends first," fear over a twindemic as coronavirus cases rise in flu season. effective treatments are on the horizon.

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