person. >> sandra: 3 stops for the president and 2 for joe biden. it's going to be a day, 7 days out. trace, great to be with you. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> ♪ >> exactly one week from today, election day. president trump and joe biden are hitting the campaign trail in key battleground states today. the president in michigan, wisconsin, and nebraska. we could hear from him this hour has he leaves the white house. joe biden is holding 2 events in georgia. yesterday in pennsylvania, biden defended his campaign schedule. >> there are a lot of things we could be doing having massive crowds, but the fact is it's just not appropriate now. people should be tested first before they even show up.

number 1. number 2, they should be wearing masks. number 3, they should be social distancing. and number 4, it should not be a huge crowd whether it's outside or not. >> those comments came just hours after president trump tore into joe biden. >> waived a white flag on life. he doesn't leave his basement. this guy doesn't leave his basement. he is a pathetic candidate. >> and "usa today" is reporting the latest polling averages showing president trump is gaining on joe biden in 9 out of 12 key battleground states aol biden still has a lead in 10 of those states. you are watching "outnumbered." i am harris faulkner. here's jillian turner and fox news contributor molly

hemmingway and marie and joining us former education secretary under president ronald reagan and fox news contributor bill. bill, i will start with you. this is what we see. 7 days out. polls nationally started to tighten. those in battleground states. what do you make of what we are seeing in closing arguments from each of these candidates? >> well, i hear from the biden campaign they are pretty comfortable although they don't want to take it for granted with all of these polls. you look at state by state and they are up in most of the battleground states. hold the phone. wait a minute. this is familiar. wasn't that the case in 2016? yeah, i think it was. i get a sense of momentum real momentum from the trump campaign. it's a joyful campaign. the biden campaign is nervous despite what they are saying.

it's a joyless campaign. he is on the campaign trail in georgia, but basically on the campaign trail in delaware. i don't think it's wise or smart or prudent to finish up at home in the basement unless you need to regroup your thinking. i don't want to be mean here, but yesterday, i think it was, gives the clear implication he thinks he is running against george bush rather than donald trump, maybe he needs that draft. i will say right here today, i think despite these numbers donald trump will win reelection. i think that will be a big surprise to people and the media. in 2016 you might have said it was a mistake.

this time it's on them because of how they feel about donald trump. >> when you hear about what is coming down the pike, what is your reaction? >> almost 70 million americans have already voted. that's an extraordinary number. whatever momentum is there or not in the last week, a lot of americans have already voted including a lot in swing states. that's important to remember. the biden campaign has always said they believe that the race is tighter than the polls. joe biden is running way ahead of where hillary clinton was in 2016 and outside of the margin in place she wasn't in 2016. so there is a little difference in 2016. the biden campaign knows we are a decided country and elections tend to be pretty close. joe biden is not hiding in his basement. he is in georgia today.

we will have a full schedule over the next week. kamala harris and joe biden and barack obama they are all across the country. i think the biden campaign's closing message is looking, covid is getting worse. our country is on the wrong track and donald trump is making fun of my family and saying the virus is just going to go away. what kind of president and leader do you want to handle this really huge crisis moment? those are two very different closing marriages, harris, we will see over the next 7 days. >> harris: yes, jillian, the situation with the president in pennsylvania 3 times yesterday. he started off in allentown, was impress ivto see. when you look at the numbers, biden is still ahead 5 to 6 points, although that's almost a

tie. just outside of the margin. pennsylvania is so important. how surprised were to you see joe biden pop-up in pennsylvania yesterday? >> well, harris fwe look at the candidates right now on the home stretch on the defining issue of this moment in time, which is the coronavirus, we see while the rhetoric, in the context of pennsylvania, because they are motivateed to go to the polls based on the coronavirus issue, their rhetoric is growing more and more extreme. it's diverging farther. we have joe biden saying prepare for the darkest winter of our lifetime. on the other hand you have president trump saying the joe will be over. in january we will have this virus done. we can pack it away behind us. if you look at what the campaigns are doing, they are moving closer together. i say this because look at joe

biden. as, marie points out, for all of his talk about campaigning unsafe, he is on the campaign trail. he is out there. and president trump saying the virus will be done in a couple of months. i was at the white house last night covering amy coney barrett swearing in ceremony. every guest on the south lawn, a couple understand, were wearing masks. the white house separated folks the farthest distance we have yet seen at a public event held at the white house. i would say on this issue, they are both coming closer and closer to a shared reality. make of that what you will in terms of the polls. >> harris: it's interesting. molly. you hear jillian saying it's the defining issue. those numbers are incredible. i am not talking about the cases. i am talking about the hospitalizations. what does president trump need

to say as he is criss-crossing the battleground states on that particular issue? >> i think the last debate showed the difference between the two candidates on this issue. there is not much difference on how they say handled the coronavirus. joe biden complains with how donald trump handled but hasn't proposed anything differently. the real difference is not that. you are see an explosion of cases globally where other countries are not doing well. there is a difference between cases and fatalities and hospitalization there is an upsick in all of these things. but it's better than than what we experienced in march. do you think the country needs to shut down? do you think we are headed to the darkest winter of our lives?

there is no escape from this virus? or is it something you need to learn to live with like the hong kong virus in 1957 that had a great impact on the population than this one has. that's the difference between these two candidates. >> harris: all right. molly, sit by. we are going to do as we have been, going to where the candidates and surrogates are talking. president obama is holding a drive in rally. >> you have two ways to vote. number 1, can you vote early in person right now. number 2 you can vote from home with a mail in ballot. don't wait. put it in the mail or drop it off at a drop box location tved.

-- today. don't take any chances. just get it done. >> [cheers and applause]. >> [laughing]. just go to i will vote.com to find out where you can early vote in person or drop off your ballot. if you already voted -- how many have. >> [cheering]. >> then your job is to go help your family and friends make a plan to vote. because this election requires every single one of us. what we do this week will matter for decades to come. now, i sat in the oval office with most of the men who are running for president. just in case you could not tell, they are very different people. i didn't think that donald trump would embrace my vision or policy but hoped for country's

sake he might show some interest in taking the job seriously. but he didn't. we hasn't shown any interest in doing the work or helping hib but himself and his friends or treating the presidency as anything more than a reality show that can give him the attention he craves. he does crave attention. this week with everything happening, he was fussing about the crowd size at the inauguration again. saying his was bigger. who is thinking about that right now? nobody except him! but the rest of us have had to live with the consequences. more than 225,000 people in this country are dead. more than 100,000 small businesses have closed.

half a million jobs are done in florida alone. think about that. and what is his closing argument? that people are too focussed on covid. he said this at one of his rallies. covid, covid, covid, he is complaining. he is jealous of covid's media coverage. if he was focussed on covid from the beginning cases would not be reaching new record highs across the country this week. the white house would not be having it is second out break this month.

he turned the white house into a hot zone. some of the places he holds rallies see spikes right after he leaves down. over the weekend his chief of staff said and i am quoting, i am not making this up. his chief of staff on a news program said we are not going to control the pandemic. he just said this. we noticed you are not going to control the pandemic. winters coming. they are waving the flight flag of surrender. florida, we can't afford 4 more years of this. we have to send joe biden to the white house. >> cheering. >> because we cannot afford this kind of incompetence and disinterest. 12 years ago when i chose my vice-president i didn't know joe

all that well. we served in the senate together. i noticed one of my great friends nelson. i have not seen bill in a while. plus he is wearing a mask. one of the great senators from florida. and joe and i served together with him. >> [cheers and applause]. >> and i had a lot of friends in the senate, but joe and i weren't the closest people. but we came from different places and different generations. but i quickly came to admire joe as a man who learned early to treat everybody he meets with dignity and respect. he lives by the records he parents taught him. no one is better than you and you are better than nobody. that belief in other people,

that's who joe is. that's who he will be. i can tell you the presidency doesn't change who you are. it reveals who you are. joe, time and time again has shown himself to be a man of principle and character and he will be a great president. >> [cheers and applause]. >> for 8 years, joe was the last one in the room when i faced a big decision. he made me a better president and he has the character and the experience to make us a better country. he is and kamala harris will be in the fight not for themselves but for every single one of us. listen, you have a president right now he wants more credit for an economy he inherited and

zero blame for the pandemic he ignored. the job doesn't work that way. you have to pay attention 24/7. tweeting at the tv doesn't fix innings. watching tv all day doesn't fick things. you have to have a plan to make people's lives better. joe biden has concrete plans to turn a stronger country into a reality. here's the truth. the pandemic would have been challenging for any president. but this idea that somehow this white house has done anything but completely screw this thing up is nonsense. >> [cheers and applause].

>> south korea had its first case of covid-19 as the same week as the united states. their death rate is just 1.3% of what ours is. thinkabout that statistic. i have given this a couple of times and people have not focussed on it. the number of people in korea who died of covid per capita is less than 1.5% what our death rate is. that's thousands and thousands of people. if we had been as effective and responsible whose lives would have been saved in this country. just across the border in canada, the death rate is 39% of what ours is in the united states. we are the largest and wealthiest and most powerful country on earth and we can't

get a grip on this because your government hasn't been doing its job. last week. when trump was asked if he would do anything differently. he said not much. you can't think of anything you might do differently. maybe you should not have gotten on tv and suggest we might ingest bleach to cover covid? not much. think about how hard the tourism industry has been hit here in florida and he can't think of doing anything differently. joe takes this seriously. he knows the emotional toll on grandparents when they can't see

and hug their grandkids. he won't screw up testing. he is not going to call scientists idiots. he is not going to host super spready events at the white house and take it on a tour across the country. joe will get this pandemic under control with a plan to make testing free and widely available. >> [cheers and applause]. he will get a vaccine to every american cost-free. his plan will guarantee pay for workers and parents affected by the pandemic. he will make sure that small businesses that hold our communities together and employ millions of americans can reopen safely. and he understands that we are not going to rebuild the economy

and put people back to work until we get this pandemic under control. it's not that complicated. donald trump likes to claim he built this economy. i want to remind you that american created 1.5-million more jobs in the last 3 years of the obama administration and biden administration than in the first 4 years of the trump and bens administration. that's a fact. look it up. that was before trump could blame the pandemic. he inherited the longest streak of job growth in american history. but like everything else he inherited he screwed up. by botching the pandemic sponse

he will be the first response since herbert hoover to actually lose jobs. hoover back in the 'thirties. -- '30s. that's a long time. almost 100 years ago. he loves to talk about how low black unemployment -- well, you know what? unemployment was high when i came in and we brought it low and it kept going low. he wants to take have the for it. he said he's the best president for black folks since abe lincoln. man, his advisors including his son-in-law -- his son-in-law said black folks have to want to be successful. that's the problem. who are these folks? what history books do they read? who do they talk to? they don't read, is that what is

going on? black unemployment hit 17% during the great recession 10 years ago. and through a lot of hard work joe biden and i helped get it down. it kept on-going down. not because trump did anything. and then this year because they screwed up the pandemic response it soared back up here in florida. if doesn't have to be that way florida if you go out and vote. >> [cheers and applause]. >> yes, we can. the only people truly better off than they were 4 years ago are the millionaires that got trump tax cuts. in the meantime he hasn't been able to manage extending relief to millions of families who can't put food on the table

right now. got no plan to reopen schools that need reopening or protect teachers in the process. you know, i don't understand how it is that he cannot organize republicans in congress to do the right thing. it's not like it's his money we are asking him to pay because he doesn't pay taxes. barely pays income taxes. >> [cheering]. >> we know he has a secret chinese bank account so he may be paying taxes to the chinese, but he is not paying taxes here. >> [horns honking]. >> first year in the white house only paid $750 in federal income tax. can you imagine that? i mean, teachers pay more than that. >> [horns honking].

>> social workers pay more than that in taxes. soldiers and folks in uniform pay more in taxes than that. how are you living large and you are not willing to do the right thing to make sure that we are able to pay for quality schools for our kids? to provide veterans benefits for those who earned them? joe biden has a plan to create 10 million good clean energy jobs right here in america. >> [cheers and applause]. >> part of his plan to protect florida from climate change and secure environmental justice. he will pay for it by rolling back those tax cuts to billionaires. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> and the thing is joe doesn't just want to get back to where we were. he wants to make long overdue

changes to make life easier for everybody. the waitress trying to raise a kid on her own. the student. and the ship work laid-off. the cancer survivor worried that her pre-existing conditons might prevent her from getting coverage. healthcare, republicans love saying right before an election, how they will protect people who have pre-existing conditons. have you noticed that? joe and i protected them 10 years ago with the affordable care act. they are trying to repeal the

affordable care act more than 60 times. every time they say we have ray great replacement. it's coming. everybody is a little young here. you remember popeye? remember that guy who always needed to borrow money for a hamburger. don't worry, i will pay you back sometime soon. that's like republicans with healthcare. they always say it's coming soon. we will pay you back with a great replacement plan. that two weeks has been ten years coming. every two weeks they say we will have a great healthcare plan. do you know where it is? i don't know. the reason they don't have a plan is because a plan doesn't exist. they never had one. they are taxing the affordable care act at every turn and now trying to get the supreme court

to take away your healthcare. right now as quickly as they can, in the middle of a pandemic! with nothing but empty promises to take its place. think about what that would do to families right here in florida. florida has the highest enrollment under the affordable care act more than any state in america. trump said he hopes the supreme court takes your health insurance away. he said that out loud. last night he installed the supreme court justice he hopes to do it. vote. florida this is series. joe and kamala harris will protect your healthcare and expand medicare and make insurance more affordable for everybody. >> [cheers and applause]. >> [horns honking]. >> because joe knows that

a president's first job is to keep us safe from all threats foreign, domestic and microscopic. when the daily intelligence briefings flashed warnings lights about a virus, the president can't be too lazy to read the briefings. when russia puts bounties on the head of our soldiers in afghanistan, the commander in chief can't be missing in action. joe biden would never call the men and women of our military suckers or losers. because they are willing to sacrifice their lives on behalf of the american people. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> joe biden understands those troops are somebody's kids. somebody's dad, mom, husband, or wife. somebody's father or mother.

and joe biden understands that there is glory and goodness in being willing to sacrifice on behalf of others. something that apparently this administration just doesn't comprehend. our current president whines that "60 minutes" is too tough. do you think he will stand up to dictators? we think lesley stahl is a bully. just yesterday, just yesterday, he said that putin of russia and xi of china and kim jong-un of north korea want him to win. we know! we know because you have been giving them whatever they want for the last 4 years. of course they want you to win. that's not a good thing. you should not brag about the fact that some of our greatest

adversaries think they will be better off with you in office. of course they do! what does that say about you? i mean think about that. why are you bragging about that? come on! that doesn't make any sense. joe biden would not coddle dictators. he will promote human rights around the world including cuba. joe will restore our battered standing around the world because he knows our true strength comes from setting an example the world wants to follow. a nation that stands with democracy and not dictators. and a nation that can inspire and motivate others to overcome climate change and poverty and disease. and joe and kamala harris, when they are in the office you won't

have to think about them every day. you won't have to worry about what crazy things they will say. what they will tweet. they are just going to be too busy doing the work. >> [cheers and applause]. >> [horns honking]. >> it just won't be so exhausting. you will be able to back to your lives knowing that the president won't retweet conspiracy theoriys about secondary entities running the world. our presidential of the united states retweeted a post that claimed that the navy seals didn't kill bin laden. think about that. we act like okay. it's not okay! we won't have a president when joe biden is in office that goes out of his way to insult people

just because they don't support him. he will be a president for all people including people who doesn't vote for him because he knows that's the job of being president. i mean, we have gotten so numb to what is bizarre behavior. we have a president right now who lies multiple times a day. this is not my claim. even fox news sometimes says what he said is not true. he didn't mean it. it's not normal behavior. we would not tolerate it from a co-worker or a football coach or from a high school principal. we might have to put up with it if it was a family member. we talk about, about them

afterward. why accept this from the president of the united states? you know what? sometimes it's almost too easy to make fun of him. but it's serious. there are consequences to his actions. if he was just on jerry springer, you would say well, but this is the most powerful office on earth. when people see the president doing things like that, it emboldens other people to be mean and cruel and divisive and racist. when we tell our children to tell the truth and then we have the person in the highest person

in the land who doesn't seem capable of doing so, that undermines our society. it affects the way our families get along. it affects the way the world looks at america. it distracts from the destructive actions his cronies are doing across the government as we speak. the environmental protection agencies supposed to protect our air and water. it's run by an energy lobbyist who gives companies free rein to dump pollution into our air and water. the labor department is supposed to protect workers. it's worked by a corporate lobbyist who declared war on workers trying to gut protections to keep folks safe

during a pandemic. making it easier for big corporations to steal their wages. the interior department that is supposed to protect our public land and everglades. it's run by an oil lobbiest selling them to the highest bidder. you have an education department rundown by a billionaire who gutted rules designed to protect students from getting ripped off by colleges and stiff arming students looking for loan relief in the middle of an economic collapse. you have the person who runs medicaid trying not to get more people on medicaid but to kick more people off medicaid. come on! it ain't right. so what are you going to do about it?

you have to vote! >> [horns honking]. >> [cheering]. >> when joe and kamala are in charge they won't surround themselves with hacks and lobbyists. they will surround themselves with qualify public servants who are syracuse about doing their job. who are looking out for you. for your jobs. your families, your health. your community. your planet. and that more than anything is what separates them from their opponent. they actually care about you. they actually care about every american. they will be fighting on your behalf every day. they won't get everything right every time. they won't solve every problem right away, but they will be working on it every day to see how can i make sure this little brand new baby right here is inheriting a better world? [cheers and applause]. >> [horns honking]. >> that's what they care about.

i will say that i miss kissing babies during the pandemic. i can't do it. but look at that little bundle right there. brand new. got the new baby smell. congratulations. joe and kamala care deeply about people and about our democracy. they believe that in a democracy the right to vote is sacred. we should not make people wait in line for hours. we should be making it easier for everybody to vote and not hadar. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> stay believe that no one especially the president is above the law. they understand the process is not unamerican. this country was founded on

processing against injustice. we don't threaten to throw our political opponents in jail just because we disagree with them. that happens in dictatorships. it doesn't happen in the united states of america. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> joe and kamala understand that our ability to work together and solve big problems like the pandemic depend on more than just photo-ops. it depends on applying fact and logic and science and not making things up. not flooding the internet with misinformation. this is what we learned from our parents and our grandparents. they are not white or black or hispanic or asian ornate --

or native-american. we have to turnout like never before and leave no doubt. we can't be complacent. we were complacent last time. folks got a little lazy. folks took things for granted and look what happened. not this time. not in this election. i understand there are some americans who get frustrated by government. they feel like it didn't make a difference. my vote won't make a difference. listen, the government is not perfect. it won't solve every problem. but a good government can make things better. things were better when i left office than when i started. they were not perfect but they were better.

a president should not make things worse. a president can't solve every challenge facing our economy but if we elect a president who cares and a house and a senate that are focussed on working for people and getting you the help you need, it can make a difference. >> [horns honking]. >> [cheering]. >> a president by himself can't eliminate all racial bias in our criminal justice system. but if he elect people focussed on quality and justice, it can make things better. that's what voting is about. not making things perfect, but makings them better. it's about putting us on track so a generation from now we can look back and say things started getting better. it's about using the power we have in pulling us together to make sure this we have a government that is more

concerned and more focussed on you. when i hear people say i voted last time and things didn't change as much as i thought. listen, we have never come close to seeing what it would be like if everybody voted. in 2008, that was the highest voting rate in modern presidential history. we only got to 61%. that means 39% of the folks didn't vote who were eligible to vote. what would happen suddenly if we got in the 70% voting range? what would happen if we got 70% of people voting instead of 55% of voting? the country would be transformed. imagine january 20th, and we swear in a president and vice-president who have a plan to deal with this pandemic

effectively. who believe in science, who have a plan to protect this planet for our children, who care about working americans, who have a plan to help you start getting ahead. who believe in racial quality. who are willing to do the work to bring us closer to the ideal that no matter what you look like or where you come from or who you love, how much money you've got you can make it in america. you will be treated with respect and dignity and justice here in america. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> imagine a president when puerto rico gets hit by a hurricane doesn't respond by throwing paper towels. those are americans and we have to make sure we get them the help they need as quickly as possible. that's what you should expect from a president. if you are not getting it, then you have to go out there and vote to make it happen.

>> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> all of that is possible. all of that is within our reach. for all of the times these past 4 years when we have seen our worst impullses revealed. the good news is we have seen our best impulses revealed. folks have packed town scares squares so families would not be separated. i have a pretend -- friend after puerto rico went down there after the hurricane and organized thousands of meals on his own. that's america. we saw people out on the streets saying we won't have our

classrooms shot up anymore. we have seen people activateed to make sure our kids don't grow up on an uninhabitable planet. we have seen healthcare workers risk their lives every day just to save somebody else's loved ones. we have seen people contribute and volunteer to neighbors that have been hit hard. we have seen americans of all races joining together to declare in the face of injustice and brutality that black lives matter. no more but no less. so that no child in this country should feel the continuing sting of racism. >> [cheering]. >> [horns honking]. >> that's true in orlando. it's true in florida. it's true all across the

country. america is a good and descent place. we have seen so much noise and nonsense and distortion. sometimes it's hard for us to remember, but orlando, i am asking you to remember what this country can be. what should it should be. what is must be. believe in joe's ability to lead this country out these dark times and build it back better. don't abandon those hurting. we can't abandon the kids not getting the education they need. we can't abandon the young people. channel their activism into action. we have to fight for a better future. we have to out-hustle the other side. we have to vote like never before and leave no doubt.

so make a plan. vote as early as you can. grab your family and friends. get them to vote all the way up and down the ticket. if we pour all of our efforts into this final week, if we vote like never before, then we will elect joe biden president of the united states. we will elect kamala harris vice-president of the united states. >> [cheering]. >> we will establish once again what this country stands for. what our values are. who we are as a people. let's get to work, florida. let's bring it home. i love you, orlando. i love you, florida. if you are fired up. honk. >> [horns honking]. >> honk if you are ready to go. >> [horns honking]. >> are you fired up? i am fired up. let's go do this thing. let's bring it home.

thank you. >> [cheering]. [horns honking]. >> harris: the former president of the united states, barack obama there speaking for a big chunk of time. well over 35 minutes to orlando, florida and making his case for joe biden and kamala harris. also taking on president trump on a lot of different issues. the panel is still here on "outnumbered." i first want to go to the former education secretary under president reagan bill bennett. >> not very educational i didn't think. that screaming obama is not the real obama. but at least he showed up in the last week. like a player showing up for the last game of the season. he is trying to makeup in volume what he didn't do in consistency. everybody knows that president obama thinks joe biden is a goof

and was always worried about gaffes. hot-mic things. he showed up at the end. one thing i noticed was the crowd. that crowd goes as far as the arm can stream. 3 or 4 people. but that's a small town orlando not like the little communities in pennsylvania. donald trump goes to a small community is gets 12,000 people. barack obama in orlando and they would not show us the extent of the crowd. but a couple shots showed it was very, very small. one last thing. the basic difference here and there is one disagreement with my colleague molly. it's not about covid-19 the real distinction is whether you think america is a good country that can solve its problems or you

think it's a bad country, flawed and deeply racist and needs a shift and change in transformation. i think americans believe in the optimism the president is showing and not in the pesism of the biden campaign. that will show up on election day. >> harris: molly, he called your name. >> i don't disagree. i agree with what dr. bennett just said about the difference between these to candidates. i enjoy when they talk about their differences. interesting to listening to the former president. he said something about the current president lying. it was interesting because if president obama said something true in that half-hour, that would be north worthy. there were so many false hoods or shadings of truth relateing

to his economic record to president trump's record. his record on foreign policy and president trump's successful first term in foreign policy. he lied about everything including the case fatality rate for coronavirus. he made it seem like the united states has it worse than anybody else. italy and spain and u k have worse face fatality rates. the biden campaign wants to make this about the coronavirus. they think it's the best way to show that america needs a radical transformation whether it's the constitution and how many peopler the supreme court or any number of things. versus president trump's message saying in enthusiastic rallies across the country about what america is capable of.

that barack obama is in florida is a sign that the biden campaign is worried about florida. if he is as far ahead in reality as the polls, there would be no need for anybody to do campaigning. that they are shows they think this is a tough race. they are hoping they the polls are as accurate as they claim. >> harris: one thing we learned about polling, they are usually long. they may have subs stance but with donald trump winning in 2016. people were not saying they were going to vote for trump. when you factor that in, they got close and some some battleground states flipped.

every battleground state and in play. >> absolutely. the things you are mentioning are systemic problems. they have not gone away between 2016 and now. the polling industry learned a lot in 2016. but their behavior hasn't changed. there is room for the same kinds of things to happen this time around that happened last time around. quick note about the trump campaign, during the 11 a.m. tim was on our air and asked to describe the mood of the campaign. how do you feel about your prospects for winning? he said we are feeling cautiously optimistic. that's a much more realistic outlook at this moment than what you are hearing from president trump at the rallies. that's his job. he goes out there to fire up his

supporters. but the campaign has its fingers on the pulse. president trump said the race is over. i have one. those handling the campaign are giving us a more realistic picture today. >> harris: that's interesting. marie, i hear you say on this very program, look as democrats y'all can't put the cart before the horse. there is a lot of jubilation as there was for hillary clinton and inevitablity. that was risky behavior. i want to ask with joe biden deciding to go to georgia, does he think he can make a run there? democrats haven't had one since the 1970s and that was jimmy carter and bill clinton. >> right. barack obama, what we just

listened to showed why he is the most effective democratic politician today and won two presidential elections. that was a joyful closing message. he said america is a good and descent place. we are a hopeful country. we know we can do better. it was not all winters coming and everything is terrible. this was a powerful vintage obama speech he just gave and rally to the troops. you are right. harris, the biden campaign thinks they can compete in georgia. a lot of democrats 6 months ago didn't think we could compete in florida. the fact that barack obama 7 days out is in florida shows that momentum in the last months and weeks has shifted in states like florida towards the democrats and the biden campaign. that's another benefit of the biden campaign having so much money. they can go up with ads in states like georgia and texas and florida and keep up all of

their ads in minnesota, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio. they can flood the air waves because they have so many resources. if that's the closing message here, it's a pretty positive closing message from the biden campaign we just saw with barack obama. >> harris: hillary clinton was not financially in dire straits. bill bennett, had you money thrown at the situation before. donald trump didn't seem to worry about that. i want to give you the quick final word. >> money doesn't win campaigns. it helps and it's necessary but not a sufficient condition upon enthusiasm does and in america, optimism does. marie is right. former president obama said america is a descent and good country. but, but, but, and the weight of

the talk was about all of the things that are wrong and horrible and that need to be fixed. >> harris: all right. good to see you all. we have breaking news in the middle. we will bring everybody back. i will be back with "outnumbered overtime" just after this commercial break. [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] ♪ uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

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