>> that is the story of this tuesday, october 27th, 2020. a seven days away from the big night. as always, the story continues so we will see you back here tomorrow night. have a great day, everybody. >> tucker: that evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we are going to devote the entire next hour to a single interview, something we've never done before and in this case, it's a conversation with the former business partner of james and hunter biden, the son of the democratic candidate. a lot has been written recently, but our story is not about them tonight as shocking as some of those details are. the story we are about to tell you is instead about joe biden, the man who just days from now could be elected president of the united states united states. joe biden, and we can tell you

this with certainty, had direct personal involvement with his family's business dealings in communist china and likely in other countries as well. the former vice president of course has vehemently denied that and he is lying. tonight, we can prove that. before we begin, word about tony, not a conventional whistle-blower, to the extent he has supported candidates in the past, nor is he seeking money now from this story. this is not a shakedown of the bidens or of anyone else. he is already rich, significantly rich. he has a significant figure in american finance. that's exactly why they sought him out in the first place. they had no idea how to structure the deal they hope to cash in on, so they enlisted him to do it for them to do the math. now they are attacking him as an agent of russian disinformation and that's why he is appearing on the show. in an effort to clear his family's name of that slur.

he had no choice. the rest of the national media has suppressed his story. reporters have ignored intentionally and a ignored and have intentionally distorted scores of documents that his account is true. never in history have more powered senders aligned to kill a legitimate story in the days before an election. that's what's happening right now. you are looking for a real threat to our democracy, you are watching it unfold, we are seeing it firsthand. last night we experience an extraordinary attempt to interfere with our reporting on the biden family. we will bring you details on that soon but for now, here is his story, we recorded this interview with him a few hours ago in a hotel in los angeles. so your connection to this deal came through an english businessman who you had met while doing business in various different countries, you talked

about on christmas eve 2015, he sent you the following text, which explains the deal with china that he wanted you to become part of it i just want to read the first sentence of this. "there will be a deal between one of the most prominent families from the u.s. and then constructed by me. >> that's correct. >> tucker: tell me what he was saying. >> he was referencing the something he had been working on throughout 2015 with rob walker and a chinese company, and he had been traveling around the world developing that deal and that text was just the culmination of him making me aware that the deal was moving forward. >> tucker: so he doesn't say i want to do a deal with you and me and hunter biden or even you, me, hunter biden, and jim biden. he said between one of the most prominent families from the united states, talking about the biden family. >> it was never about hunter biden or jim biden, it was about

the family name. >> tucker: at this point, he was a sitting vice president. so i want to fast-forward to 2017, early may, 2017 and at this point, you've agreed to become part of this deal, hunter biden, jim biden, the vice president brother, james gilliard and they are asking you to meet with the former vice president in los angeles. despite the context and why they want you to meet with them. >> across those days in los angeles in may of 2017 that you're referencing, i met with hunter biden multiple times, and rob walker and the discussion was they wanted me to sit down with of the fathers to meet with him and at a high level discuss the biden family. >> tucker: let me ask you, can you explain to us who rob walker is? >> a partner in rosemont seneca

and had a very close relationship with the biden family and had developed and been working with james throughout 2015 and 2,016 to develop this deal with the chinese. >> tucker: what was his relationship with the family? >> my understanding is he had worked in prior administrations that had a very close relationship and in his own words in an email to me, he states that everyone was contributing for telling me how they wanted to participate and in an email he basically states in his own words to me, i want to continue acting as a proxy for hunter biden, jim biden, and the bidens around the world. the biden family. >> tucker: so they want you to meet with the former vice president in l.a. how did that play out? >> the former vice president was

flying in, and we were to meet at the beverly hilton, that conference was going on, one of the top three conferences in the world for anyone that is a global investor or developing different humanitarian causes and a variety of things and joe was flying in to speak about stuff he was working on and hunter and everyone was in town and they wanted to coordinate a meeting with joe soap was set up for the night of may 2nd at the beverly hilton, first met with hunter biden and jim biden and just had a light discussion where they briefed me that my dad's on the way, and we won't go into too much detail on the business front, but we will spend time talking at a high level about you, your background, the biden family and then he's got to get some rest because he is speaking at the conference in the morning. >> tucker: so this was at

night, the vice president just flowed across the country, an older man, he's got work to do, but they carved out a piece of his schedule for you to meet with him. i would they do that? >> because they were sort of wining and dining me and presenting the strength of the biden family to get me more engaged and taking on the ceo role and develop it both in the united states and around the world in partnership and as you can imagine, i've been asked by a hundred people over the past month why would you be meeting with joe biden and sort of turn the question around to people that ask me, why that 10:38 on the night of may 2nd with joe biden take time out of his schedule to sit down with me in a dark bar at the beverly hilton's position behind a column so people couldn't see us to have a discussion about his family and my family and is no

set a very high level where jim biden sat and hunter biden participated in. i'm a relevant in this story, they weren't raising money from me, there was no other reason for me to be in that bar meeting joe biden then to discuss what i was doing with his family's name and the chinese. >> tucker: this is a company with direct connections to the communist government of china so the former vice president has said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business dealings i was not involved in them at all but this sounds like direct involvement. >> that's a blatant lie when he states that. it's a blatant lie. obviously the world is aware that i attended the debate last thursday and in that debate, he made a specific statement around questions around us from the president and i'll be honest with you, i almost stood up and screamed a liar and walked out because i was shocked that after four days that they prepped for

this at the biden family is taking that position to the world. once again, i'm a relevant in this discussion. i just was brought in to run this company and have been exposed to all of this fact and i believe the american people should see this fact. i would much prefer the biden family go on record and defined these facts of the american people versus me sitting here having a discussion with you on it. >> tucker: so joe biden has not denied meeting with you in los angeles. tell us the conversation you had with him. >> i was initially sitting with jim biden and hunter biden and joe came through the lobby with his security and hunter basically said give me a second, i will go over and give me 10 minutes to briefed my dad and read him in on things, so that hunter and his father and security came through the bar and obviously i stood up out of respect to shake his hand and hunter introduced me as this is

tony, the individual i told you about that's helping us with the business we are working on in the chinese. >> tucker: so it was clear to you that joe biden's son had told him about this business. crystal clear. tell us about the conversation that subsequently get occurred between you and joe biden. >> grew up the son of a career naval officer's the president of the united states was always the commander-in-chief whether they were a democrat or republican or other and so i have the highest respect for joe and the office that he had held them up so i stood up and shook his hand and obviously we sat down and we ordered some drinks. i think jim biden was hungry and ordered some food, and joe asked me to talk about my background and my family. he thanked me for my service, i'm obviously very proud of that

that, proud of my brothers service and my grandfather's service, and then he walked through his family, obviously some of the tragedies they've dealt with, his political career on a high level, we didn't go into too much detail on business because prior to joe showing up, hunter ran jim had approached me and said this is a high-level discussion meeting. so it's not like i was drooling down with joe about details. >> tucker: so you said they wanted you to meet joe biden as a way to induce you to participate in this deal. you were the actual business guy here who had management experience. but it also sounds like joe biden was vetting you to some extent. >> of course. i didn't request to meet with joe, they requested that i meet with joe, and rose reference multiple times, putting their entire family legacy on the line, they knew what they were doing, dealing with the chinese

owned enterprise surrounded by the chairman that had drunk financial support and political support from the chinese communist party. that's how it was presented to me. not my own words, how they read me on it. they being hunter biden who was very proud of that and taking credit for it when i sat with him for two hours on the patio in l.a. >> tucker: proud that they were doing a deal with the chinese communist party? >> proud that he had the relationship with the chairman who was running the ability for them to get deals done around the world. >> tucker: you've seen a number of journalist reporters covering this or those who should know better declare triumphantly that no document you released connects the former vice president to the steel. how do you react to that? with your answer to it? >> you can imagine what i've been through over the last

couple of months and knowing all this to be fact had him watching joe biden and his family and their lawyers go around the world stating that there was no involvement or even at the debate joe biden referenced the scene my tax returns and there's no money from foreign enterprise and that. i want to simplify this for the american people as much as i can. on may 13th, that email was sent from james to me. i didn't generate that email, james gilley are generated that email and in that email, he goes through intimate detail of what each individual's requests were from a compensation perspective and how the equity in the enterprise would be divvied up. it's very important may 13th, that email was generated by somebody else to me. and that email, there is a statement they go through the equity, referenced as 10%, and

then it has 10% for the big guy. i won thousand% and sit here and know that the big guy is referencing joe biden, that's crystal clear to me because i lived it, i met with the former vice president in person multiple times, and i had been meeting and talking with hunter biden and jim biden and rob walker and james gilliard. with the media has tried to hide and i personally feel it's disgusting is between that may 13th email in the final document that was executed, the equity is broken up 20% hunter biden, 20% jim biden, llcs that represented them, 20% james, 20% rob walker and 20% me and my investment entity. what i'd ask the american people

to read and look at his house from may 13th to the final night did jim biden go from a 10% owner to a 20% owner? that's not my question and answer, i'm sure there were discussions within the biden family and i wasn't privy to that discussion but this is the brother of the potential future president of the united states, not a distant cousin, not an employee, it's his brother who in documents defines himself as a political advisor to his brother and so i'll leave that to the american people to answer that but i don't understand how the american journalists is allowing that gap to even be talked about and defined. >> tucker: i want to put the document on the screen in his pitch to the chinese, in his bio, jim biden describes himself as an advisor, current advisor to his brother, so was it clear to you from the beginning that

what jim biden was bringing to this deal was his relationship with joe biden? >> s, 1000%, crystal clear. after i met with joe biden the morning of may 3rd at that conference and then was taken backstage after joe had spoken, we joked around for 10 minutes and then i walked out to his car, i think they referenced he was off to see lieutenant governor. this is joe biden and then after that, i went over to the peninsula hotel and sat with jim biden for two hours where he walked through his history in his own words stating all the work and effort he did to get joe biden elected initially in delaware and through the family history and the rule that he had played in it. in that meeting, i'm the son of a naval officer, was a naval officer myself and because i held a clearance which is the

equivalent of a top-secret clearance, we are audited every year so if you receive a gift, i think the barrier was $25, anything larger we had to disclose it to the government because anybody with a clearance the government is watching closely they are not influenced by the russians were iranians and stuff like that. so i was i was listening to jim walk through this, i have a big heart if you talk to anybody who knows me, they would weigh in on that. i'm a kind person and i'm thinking about the biden family like how are they doing this, i know joe decided not to run in 2016 but what if he ran in the future, aren't they taking political risk or headline risk and i remember looking at jim biden in saying how are you guys getting away with this? aren't you concerned? and he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said plausible deniability. >> tucker: he said that out loud.

when becky said it directly to me at the cabana at the peninsula hotel after an hour and a half or two hour meeting with me asking out of concern how are you guys doing this, aren't you concerned you will put your future presidential campaign at risk, the chinese, the stuff you guys have been doing already in 2015 and 2016 around the world, and i can almost picture his face where he sort of chuckles and says plausible deniability. >> tucker: so this is a man who has been drafting off of his brother's political career for almost 50 years. he said to your face essentially we are lying about it. >> anyone watching this interview can look up what plausible deniability means and the definition is very distinct. >> tucker: that's remarkable. i just want to back up a second just to be clear. you met with joe biden twice. what did he say to you, so he gives his speech at the millikan conference and this is all checkable pair that was a public event, you can google it.

>> they had to issue me. i wasn't attending so they had to issue me special credentials, the whole team and walked me into that speech that he gave in and sat me the head table in front of everyone so this is more than checkable, photo and documentation. >> tucker: they don't seem to be verifying this. it's checkable because it's true and the fact you may be hearing it for some of the first time here tells you everything about the line we've been subjected to. when we come back, tony will tell us what he and joe biden discussed as they were backstage in los angeles at that conference in may of 2017 and he will respond directly to claims by the former vice president and many other democrats but he is working against for a hostile foreign power. that straight ahead.

>> tucker: we just showed you the first 20 minutes of our interview a few hours ago with tony, well known international business man who was asked by the biden family to do business with them in china.

he met with the former vice president two separate times and they talked about the china business deal. this information has been out for several weeks, the hands of a number different of news organizations and the reason you are hearing it for the first time is because they have resolutely ignored it and to suppress the story. there's an enormous amount of detail that no one has refuted because it's real. what was notable that joe biden didn't deny any specifics about his connections to the chinese communist party and his family doing business there and he himself participated in that business. instead, dismiss the entire story out of hand and suggested that tony bobulinski who was a veteran, former naval officer was part of a russian disinformation campaign aimed at this country. he cited a letter from for

former national intelligence folks from almost all of them partisans, every one of them a liar, none of them how to directly assess the information and not one of them called tony bobulinski. joe biden said that on stage so when we spoke, we asked him his reaction to that and here's what he said. tell me about the conversation, what did he say to you? >> there were ten people running around getting something to drink and we were backstage in a cramped space and just asked how i did and what i thought of the speech i did a great job in the speech and obviously it's a very serious thing we should all be working together to solve, lost a sister-in-law to cancer and just sort of asked me to keep an eye on his son and his brother. >> tucker: what do you think he meant by that?

>> i think he was conscious of things and i can't speak for him, i would love for him to go on record as i referenced earlier, only sitting here because not only have they not gone on record, they've denied it and have tarred my family name, long history of serving this country and have other congressmen now talking about russian disinformation. >> this whole smear on joe biden comes from the kremlin. >> i held a top-secret clearance, and serve this country for four years at one of the most elite environments in the world, and to have a congressmen out there speaking about russian disinformation or joe biden had a public debate referencing russian disinformation when he knows he sat face-to-face with me traveled around the world with his son and his brother to say that an associate that with my name is absolutely disgusting to me.

>> tucker: did you complain about that? to suggest that you were committing treason for part of a foreign attack on our democracy which is how they characterized it. it is such a serious and i think unfair charge. >> you're exactly exactly right, publicly accusing me of treason, treating me like i'm insignificant for the 50 years of history that my family serve this country is insignificant and that's why am sitting here, i assure you this is the last place i want to be right now in the last thing i want to be doing right now, but i feel like as a patriotic duty to this country and every american citizen to go on record and define the facts for them and let them do their own work, let them decide how they view those but for the biden family to deny these facts and then not only deny them, could have just said no comment. they brought in russian disinformation and basically associated my name with that

which is absolutely disgusting to me and i had to go on the record. last weekend, i was in virginia, my sister-in-law passed away around saturday morning. spent 27 years and just retired so you can imagine me dealing with that and the tragedy of that. when i saw adam schiff go on record talking about russian disinformation after this email had been posted online by "the new york post" and remember that email was to me, it was to me stating that i was going to be the ceo of this enterprise. so i told him that that statement is retracted by congressman schiff by midnight on sunday that was going on record and disposing all the facts of the american governme

government, to the american citizen ends of the world. i was hoping the bidens would do the right thing or he would retract his statement but i could not allow another minute or hour or day of my families name to be associated or muddied up around russian disinformation so even as i sit here today, i would ask them to go on record and stop using my name or associating it with russian disinformation. it's disgusting. >> tucker: so this is the representative of the biden family, so you set this to him. i just want them to retract the accusation that i'm an instrument of russian disinformation. what did he say? >> under a tremendous amount of stress, a wife and a child and said let me make some calls, call george and see what i can do but he sort of presented it

as if that's going to be impossible for me to get done and i'm not naive. i know that's not impossible. that's a single phone call from joe biden to adam schiff saying go on record and retract your statement. he got over your skis and when the statement wasn't retracted, ready to go on record and how that record was was willing to go in front of any senator, and a congressman, the department of justice, the fbi or sit here with you and basically provide the facts of the american people and let them make their decision. this isn't a political focus of mine. people were accusing my family of treason after i serve this country and defended this country. >> tucker: the reason you wound up here in this interview and i just want to affirm. is because nobody else told your story. so were you surprised given the

trove of documents you have, given the credibility but i think is apparent that you have that no other news organization took the time to unpack the story? >> surprises probably understatement of the year, shocked because it would be different if this was my word against jim biden, hunter biden, and joe biden. that would be a slippery slope, not something i would take the personal family risk on it but i provided more documents and facts that validate times, meetings, who participated. that was generated by somebody else sent to me. wasn't me generating these text messages i provided or hunter biden in the first person, rob walker in the first person, it's not me generating the text messages, it's them speaking, so you can interview them.

the fbi can interview them, our government can interview them, but i was shocked that not only the media is not only discussing this, they are going to the other extreme dismissing it as russian disinformation. we went through three years of every day russia, russia, russia. it's just absurd. the cold war is over. >> tucker: and they're saying it about your family. the biden family knew that you were going public with this and you spoke to rob walker about it, the self-described biden family representative. what was his response when you let him know that you were going public with this? >> trying to coach me, trying to say we don't want to do that, we don't want press trucks out in front of our house and we have to move because it's my job and all of that, i'm not trying to

cause any harm to anyone in this situation let alone rob walker and his family, but basically, his position was if you go on record, you will bury all of us. >> if he doesn't come out on record, i am providing the fact. >> tucker: what was your response to that? >> i was focused on pushing these guys to do the right thing, to demonstrate an ounce of integrity in front of the american people. they all know the facts. i lived the facts and all the facts are extremely well documented. i'm irrelevant in this discussion so i can write off in the american people can read these texts and listen to the recording, the legal documents that were executed and they can form their own conclusion. they don't need me to form the conclusion for them.

>> tucker: give us a sense of your contacts with hunter biden. a lot of this is complex, and this is television so we are not putting everything we have on this, but for those who might suspect you didn't really have a lot of contact with hunter biden, give us a sense of the places you had conversations with him and over what time frame. >> obviously as we already discussed throughout 2015 and 2016 while joe is still the sitting vice president of the united states, these guys had been doing extensive work around the world in places like luxembourg, romania that i was being made aware of that i obviously hadn't come off the bench and agreed to be part of this. >> tucker: i have to ask, they don't speak any of these languages, none of them has any record of success in business or a background, why would they be

doing business there? >> because they have relationships on the biden name they are able to set up meetings and get people to jump through hoops and an interest to garner favor with the sitting vice president joe biden. >> tucker: so it looks like that's a legitimate business guy, someone who is fluent in the anguish. >> traveled around the world for decades, very low profile individual, and is short and is a legitimate as they come. >> tucker: hunter biden and jim biden have a well-documented decades long, long record of business disasters, did you get in a sense of either one of these guys mollified to be conducting this kind of business? >> the only qualification they had was the biden name. >> tucker: but they seem to have parlayed that into quite a few deals in quite a few

countries and i interrupted you, so continue with where they were doing this deal. >> so when i decided to come off the bench and entertain the ceo of the holdings, was brought up to speed on the work they were doing in luxembourg, france, romania, kazakhstan, and stuff like that because that was all going to be integrated into those holdings, so u.s. to the extent that i spent time with hunter biden. i personally was in bucharest, romania, with hunter biden, jim biden, rob walker, i was in monaco for the annual grand prix there, supposed to sit with hunter biden, i met him on the patio of his hotel and i sat there and waited for two hours, and you can imagine how angry and frustrated after sitting there for two hours waiting for him without a text or phone call to let me know i can't make it

or am tied up in a text that i think you guys are aware of and saw the next day, he aggressively comes back at me that he couldn't attend the meeting, that he himself set up. i stepped away from family and friends, and not that i was on with my friends to go sit with him for a couple of hours, and he is effectively screaming into the phone that he could not pick up the phone and text me because he was with the ukrainians and the founder of burisma and was fighting for the only income he has on a deal that apparently he negotiated. i had no exposure to that deal. i'm not aware of any of the particulars of that deal. i just know for a fact there is a deal because hunter biden told me there was the text that i think you guys have any will show to the american people. it's not my job to determine what that deal is, i will leave that up to the fbi or the senate and congress to figure that out.

>> tucker: i just want to restate this, you are not a grifter, not someone who is selling access, a legitimate business man who has done deals in a lot of different countries so i just want you to assess once more is there anything about hunter biden's personal experience, personal qualifications that would justify him doing a deal in kazakhstan? >> absolutely nothing. the only thing that he had was the biden family name and the fact that his father at one point obviously was a sitting vice president and potentially would run as a future president. >> tucker: it sounds like a remarkably ambitious international business program they had running. >> extensively. >> tucker: this is a small point that i can't get over. so you've saw a number of reporters say again in an effort to back away your story, your testimony on this that the

chairman referred to in a bunch of these emails was not joe biden who was in fact the government of china. when you see people refer to the chairman thinks this in the chairman thinks that, they are thinking about china and not joe biden. so here is a text message you received from hunter biden to you. both james' lawyers in my chairman gave an emphatic no, i think we should all meet in romania on tuesday next week. so you're hearing reporters say that chairman was the chinese government. here you have rob walker responding to you, clearly some confusion over this when he said his chairman, he was talking about his dad. >> correct, to chairman in this story, the chairman of cfc and that text from hunter biden, it was not talking about the chairman of cfc and what hunter

is referencing there as he spoke with his father and his father is giving an emphatic no to putting proper governance in place around the holdings. >> tucker: so joe biden is vetoing your plan for putting stricter governance in the company. and it's right here in the email. >> i want to be very careful in front of the american people. that is not me writing that, that is not me claiming that, that's him writing on his own phone typing and that i spoke with my chairman referencing his father. the world thinks that that is not his father, than hunter biden would come forward and go on record and say to the world. >> tucker: but you have rob walker saying right here no. when he said as chairman, he was talking about his dad. >> exactly. >> tucker: but joe biden had no knowledge of any of these

business deals. he told us that it has been repeated that message every day since. it is a big lie and everyone knows it's a lie. where did the money go? he will explain where the money went to mother was a lot of it. we will be right back.

>> tucker: of bits and pieces of the story have been out there if you've been paying close attention. issued a report about a series of suspicious overseas financial transactions that involve the former vice president's son but that did not tell the full story. there is a lot of money here, where did it go and where did it come from? we asked tony bobulinski that. tell me about the money. in the end, the chinese did send quite a bit of money. where did it go? >> documents were all executed even after this back-and-forth, and the chinese director who is

number three get the company worked directly for chairman e and the way it was presented to me was very senior chinese communist party member was assuring me that $10 million was being sent to our bank account that was set up at jpmorgan chase to fund operation and grow the business end of that $10 million, we were capitalizing the business so $5 million of that was being loaned as a nonrecourse loan, and the other $5 million was coming in as they are capitalization of the business because we owned 50/50 in the partnership. the chinese -- i am insignificant and irrelevant in this discussion. to them, it was always the biden family. wasn't hunter biden, jim biden, it was the biden family and led

and operated by joe biden and in that document that you guys have and i think has been provided to the world, the chinese reference that because of their trust in the biden family, that they were excited about moving forward and in that document, they reference loaning $5 million to the family. that is the biden family, and noticed they didn't say we are loaning that money to tony, we are loaning that money to bob walker and not a document generated by me but documented and generated that they are loaning that money the biden family. >> tucker: what are the implications of this going forward if joe biden is elected president which could very well happen. how does this constrain his ability to deal with china? >> are you asking for my

personal opinion? >> tucker: your opinion is someone who has worked with the chinese. >> i think they are compromised. obviously i held a clearance, briefed on a compromise and who you are able to talk with and deal and do business with and i just don't see given the history here and the facts how joe can't be influenced in some manner based on the history that they have with stuff like that. so as a citizen and an american taxpayer, i'm very concerned. >> tucker: it seems at this point there is so much documentation and we have your document, the ones you retained in the legal documents but presumably many others because there were a lot of other people involved in this. is it possible that this stuff just disappears and nobody covers it for the next four years? seems like there's a lot of evidence out there. >> i think the american people should be demanding that this is investigated and i don't know what the right party to do that,

is that the fbi, congress, the senate, but there should be no scenario that this is an investigated and as you said, i probably have purview into 10% picking around number of what was actually going on and i would encourage the american people to go online and download senator johnson's 87 page report after watching this and read pages 65 through 87 and form your own conclusion. what i've come forward with is a piece in that puzzle that senator johnson and senator grassley did not have. they didn't have it because i hadn't gone on record and all this information and documentation was kept very, very tight. you asked me if information disappeared, i would expect that other parties have probably destroyed or gotten rid of information. i didn't. i have every email, every text

that was exchanged and i provided that to the authorities and here i am discussing it. >> tucker: so you learn from the senate report that the chinese sent a great deal of money but it didn't go where it was supposed to go, correct? >> that's correct. so take the american people back to july 2017, i was being told by the director who is a senior executive that the $10 million was going to be funded in two tranches of $5,000,000.5 million in the way that they were approaching that was $5 million was their contribution to capitalize on those holdings. that money didn't come in june, didn't come in july, and i was in europe traveling with friends and family and i was frustrated because culturally, there's a tendency of its coming and it wasn't coming. so i was very frustrated but in july 2017, something that

happened is over july 4th weekend while we were celebrating our independence day, president xi was in moscow meeting vladimir putin on an official visit and in that meeting and in that multiple days, was in moscow participating in that and the media in the russia had leaked the press that they were entertaining selling 14% of the state owned u.s. sanctioned energy company of russia. when i saw that leaked, you can imagine once again the clearance i held some of the military background pushing away from the table like this is stair stepping things at a level that do i even want to be associated with or do i even want to be near. shortly after that information got out, i was told that the visa was denied, he could no

longer get back into the u.s. for meetings or to bring his wife and his kids to go to school in new york and that it was denied multiple times. jim biden confirms that in text, references it, kevin, the individual who is referenced in that senate report, he went by kevin, his legal name, sorry. and so i was sort of walking on eggshells of what's going on, saying this money is going to be funded and it hasn't come in yet, sort of near the end of my rope here and then in september, easily validated, it's officially announced that they are buying 14% once again the state owned energy company, so at that point, i just sort of push away from the table, the money hadn't been funded and i was having daily discussions of what's going on here, the biden

name, russia, china, i don't want to be anywhere near this, have to understand all the moving pieces, so we went into the fall of 2017 very well documented with patrick cho who is an employee or associate landed in new york, he was detained by the u.s. government and put in jail for corruption apparently for leaving shoe boxes of cash to two african presidents and it started this downhill spiral as a company. remember, president xi was traveling around the world of their political approach and was a capitalistic side of the chinese government doing things that they could do on the capitalist side that the government couldn't get done. it's a very well documented the work that they did in the middle east and czechoslovakia and romania, kazakhstan,

georgia, all over the world. when they announced that that they were officially tendering for a deal valued at $9 billion, i sort of push away from the table like okay, obviously that's taking priority over this discussion, and was watching things play out once they detained patrick cho. i did reach out to hunter biden in october 2017 asking him they haven't funded the $10 million to have you done something that i am not, have you gone around us and started a parallel discussion with the chairman that i should be conscious of and in a variety of text messages that you've been provided and i think the american people have been provided, he says no, i didn't go around you, but by the way, i'm acting as the personal attorney to chairman yi. imagine being in my shoes

looking at my phone reading this text message from hunter biden and just spent six months all out of pocket myself. nobody was paying me. i was paying for my own travel, my own meals, anything that was needed, and hunter biden is now telling me that he is meeting personally one-on-one his $3 million penthouse in new york and is picking up the phone and calling him but they only discuss things in person. you can imagine my anger and frustration because this is slippery, you have gone around me, what's going on here in your acting as a personal chairman for a deal valued at $900, what am i missing here? is sort of displays that often says i'm working on other

personal things and visas and stuff like that but doesn't go into a lot of detail. i love the american people to ask what those other special things were. >> tucker: you told your story in a very public way, what do you expect the consequences for you and your family will be? >> my focus right now is not the consequences on me. i'm trying to be selfless in this discussion. i think the consequences our country faces, thinking about who they pick over the prior two weeks or in the future all the way up until election, i'm doing this for them. not for my family or any money, i'm doing this out of a patriotic duty to our country based on our military background and my grandfather's background. other people can determine the facts and what matters and how they want to vote, but i had to go on record because they chose tomorrow up my name so i have a former seal team protecting my

family, not at home right now and i will travel the next four years if i have to. i had to do this. >> tucker: are you worried? >> of course i'm worried. i've gotten death threats, calls, obviously i sat with the fbi and they assured me i would more than be protected by them when and if needed but i think i will slowly become irrelevant in this discussion because the facts are so powerful and so necessary that hopefully i'll just sort of go stage left and hopefully our government and the appropriate people will go on record and basically provide facts to the american people. >> tucker: thank you for talking to us, i appreciate it. tony bobulinski, 45 minutes, basically unedited. from our perspective, the take away is here is a man the biden family approached to run their business in china, he did but they asked him to do, met with the former vice president

joe biden twice to discuss business in china and when did this happen? they attacked him as an agent of russia. i want to thank fox news for allowing us to put this on the air. this information has been out a long time and under a lot of pressure not to harass and we are grateful. >> welcome to hannity. we are officially one week away from the all-important 2020 presidential election. tonight, tracking multiple breaking stories including the interview you just saw with the whistle-blower, we will unpack his serious corruption allegations against the bidens straight-ahead and reporters are now standing by in philadelphia where last night, a violent riot erupted at least 30 responding, police officers were injured including one who was intentionally run over by a truck. this all happened after a video emerged showing a law enforcement involved shooting death of an individual wielding a knife headed towards