campaign. trump is scrambling across the country and his voters are energized. the question is whether there is enough of them. >> neil: the candidates continue their travels tomorrow. here comes "the five" now. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> i am dana perino with juan williams, jesse watters, greg gutfeld and katie. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." president trump and joe biden holding dueling rallies in a must win battleground. both campaigning today in florida with just 5 days to go. the president turning out a very large crowd filled with thousands of fired up supporters. joe biden drawing about 200 cars for a drive in rally. the polls show a dead heat.

joe biden up 1.5%. trump and biden trying to make a last-minute appeal to voters. watch. >> i am running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics. >> he is spreading division and discord. we need a president who will bring us together. not pull us apart. >> this election is a choice between the american dream and a socialist nightmare. >> the middle-class built this country. you are the ones who will save the country now that you built. >> biden talks about covid. he didn't call it the china virus because china has him paid off. >> he is doing nothing. donald trump waved the flight flag and surrendered to the virus. >> florida not the only state up for grabs. the president postponed a rally in north carolina tonight due to

the weather. he will be in michigan, wisconsin and minnesota tomorrow and biden will head to iowa and wisconsin and added a stop in minnesota. president trump looked at minnesota as a possible pick up state. maybe joe biden thinks the same thing. >> minnesota is very competitive. the people with the trump campaign say that they think they have a good shot. biden showed up in minnesota a couple of weeks ago. now they panicked and are knocking on doors. trump people have knocked on doors for 4 years in minnesota. i want to talk about florida. for the last 25 years, the candidate that won florida won the election. joe biden if he doesn't win florida is not going to have a very good shot at the white house. right now it looks like a blood bath for biden.

the republicans wiped out this big early lead with early voters among democrats. they have it down to 190,000. joe biden goes into election day with a smaller lead than gillum had on desantis. they are not building up enough of a lead in florida and the battlegrounds to overcome this big republican turnout on election day. you know republicans who support donald trump will crawl over glass to vote for the president. i looked at a poll today out of monmouth and the president is winning with seniors in that poll and winning 25% of black voters and a third of hispanics in florida. up 30 points among whites

without a college degree and beating biden by double digits over handling the economy. >> we have sound from james carveville -- maybe not. if you have it, let me know. could you play that. i will have juan respond. >> i saw a less than encouraging story out of miami dade. democrats get some other in south florida. we have to build-up a big margin there. >> he is one of the bed wetters we have been talking about? >> everybody is nervous across the country. how will this turnout. we are 5 days away. high anxiety time. i think that james is right about getting more energy into

florida. that's a fight as jesse just told you. to my mind, i don't look right now at the snapshots of exactly what is the real clear average as much as i look at trends. the poll jesse told you about, monmouth is trending towards biden. they have him off 5 points. nbc today -- >> they had hillary up 5 too. >> you were going on and on about all of these numbers. the bottom line is they have him up 5 points. again, what we are seeing is if you look at the trend line it's biden gaining in florida. it's still a big fight and c carville is right saying democrats can't take anything for granted. that's why biden is down there.

when we talk about early voting i don't know why kayleigh mcenany got that stuff from. you look at the enthusiasm among democrats, that's not good news for the trump campaign. those people are turning out with energy. they want to vote. they are standing in lines to vote. you look at the polls in michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin, biden is up in all of those battleground states. >> greg, in 2018, that's the most recent results we had for voting in florida. democrats put a lot of effort to win the gubernatorial race and the senator's race. and ron desantis won the governorship and rick scott was returned to the senate. >> interesting points, dana. this race is closer than ilhan omar and her brother. it's neck and neck.

i will tell you these polls are always deceptive. we have a great example of how it becomes deceptive. you have the rapper 50 cent who endorses trump. his ex-girlfriend jumps all over him publicly and bullies limto renounce his endorsement when he does. this is a tough rapper and he cowers. do you think he won't vote for trump? no. he said he is going to endorse biden to get the crazy lady off his back. that's the current state of liberal intolerance. one side will harass you until you break and agree with them them encourages dishonesty. will you put a trump sign in your yard if you know your house will be vandalized? no.

shutdown d.c. is vowing to shut down the city if they don't get what they want. so you can't say who you support. so what does that mean if the side doing the intimidation wins? that means our country is doomed because it will come back in 2024 and so on. if somebody says you better not vote for trump, if you are an american, you vote for trump. if somebody is trying to intimidate you -- you can laugh, ju juan. >> i like the logic. >> you are mocking me. you have been wrong before so i must be right. >> no, no, i was following you. >> the intimidation -- >> okay, i have to get katie in.

can we please hear from her. >> well, washington, d.c. is certainly preparing for a trump victory. they are boarding up the entire city in preparation for rioting. the other thing interesting about president trump's visit to florida and melania trump introduced him. and in arizona republicans surpassed democrats in early voting there. and the minnesota play by joe biden at the very end of this campaign shows that they are looking at the math and they are worried. it's important to point out too. it's not just president trump who is giving these rallies in swing states across the country. it's eric trump and laura trump and they are pulling in thousands of people to rallies. the enthusiasm is there. as james said they don't have much enthusiasm in florida and

that's a problem for them 5 days before election day. >> thank you very much. up next. brand new economic numbers. a big rebound. can president trump capitalize on the news with just 5 days left in the race? >> ♪ >> ♪ (♪ )

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>> it's a major fight over who will be better for the u.s. economy. president trump hoping to boost his vote by record numbers. joe biden is calling the numbers not enough. he and the president arguing over who can best bring the country back. take a look. >> we created the greatest economy in history. and now we are doing it again. >> his policies would create a depression. he wants you to surrender our

country. that's what he wants, surrender our country to china. >> when barack obama and i left office, we left donald trump a strong economy. stronger than the one he handled. and just like everything else he inherited he blew it. he is squandering that economy. >> dana, that's great news for the american economy. it's a record, a historic number in terms of the size of the comeback. but looking forward, i noticed that wall street is down 10% since september. the start of september and we have more of the possibility of a lockdown looming. people are nervous. what is the politics of this? how does this play out in your mind? >> before you look forward it's worth looking back. when the president agreed to

shut down the economy for the will being of american citizens and the congress passed that stimulus bill and they got the loans out and the stimulus checks out that, had a very important impact. we would not be seeing this kind of gdp number if you didn't have that immediate corporation between the president and congress to get that done quickly. seeing concern going forward the democrats squandered all of these opportunities to get legislation done before the election. remember nancy pelosi said okay if this doesn't get done before the election. i think joe biden should have pushed his democrats to get it. if he were to win, he will need this money to be out there sooner. at this point without any agreement, you will have all of these business owners going into the winter having no help from the federal government. probably until february. that's outrageous. we have seen that the policy that the president put in place

can work. we should continue to do that. >> greg, unemployment are still pretty high. working people are still struggling. how do these terrific gdp numbers in the third quarter play out in your mind? >> well, you know what gdp stands for. grateful that donald is president. >> [laughing]. >> what is so amazing our economy is like the 8th wonder in the world. can you turn it on and off like a spigot. think about what it's with stood. pandemic and isolation and riots and crime. it's roaring back. it raises 3 questions. so far 6 trillion dollars we have thrown at it. printed money but we have no

inflation. why don't we have a year-long tax holiday? that would put 2.5 trillion dollars into the government's hands. maybe they don't need it. if deficits don't matter, what does that say? it blows my mind. we are learning really weird lessons with this pandemic and shutdown. >> jesse, a lot of people remember james carville saying it's the economy stupid. what we are seeing is even though the president had an advantage on that issue it's now tied with biden. people said it's the division. you hear this from the biden campaign. it's the chaos and that's what people are paying more attention to. >> no. he still has a career advantage on the economy. juan, you slipped up at the top. you could lockdowns are looming. only if joe wins.

there won't be lockdowns if donald trump wins. this recovery is 4 times faster than the obama/biden recovery. it's democrat governors in new york, california and the rust belt would reopen their economy, we could get back to where we were before. juan you talked about the people with high unemployment. those are people in the rust belt. every single rust belt state is governed by a democrat. they need to reopen their economy fully. this is recovered by consumer spending. people are shopping and going out to dinner. they are building homes. it's a very good thing. internationally, the u.s. economy contracted the least and rebounded the fastest of all major western economies. that's a great thing

competitively. >> katie, wrap us up. just as people are concerned about economic growth, they are worried about the pandemic. the pandemic and resolving that issue is closely tied to reviving the economy. how do you see that playing out in the last few days of the campaign? >> the president argues you can do both at the same time. open the economy with safety measures and work on the vaccine and therapeutics. joe biden is talking about shutting down the country. you see people opening their businesses and traveling, it's hard to imagine to tell them they can no longer go back to work. we saw that in new york city with the restaurants suing governor cuomo and bill de blasio. arguing these lockdowns will ruin their businesses. it's important to look back and remember that the economy is in recovery in the way it is now. because it was so healthy when

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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> if you need anymore proof that the media is in the tank for joe biden, just listen to this. remember how the press went into a frenzy over the anonymous senior trump official who trashed the president in the

"new york times"? it turns out the guy was nothing more than a low-level staffer when he wrote it. compare to the reaction or lack to the hunter biden story and tony bobulinksi going on camera to outline his allegations, the media won't touch it. they won't even ask the bidens about it. katie, i don't know why a reporter doesn't say joe, have you ever met tony? >> that's a good question. never met him. everything he is saying is a lie. he hasn't refuted any of his emails. on the media. i am at a loss how they are handling this. this is an investigative reporter's dream to go through

this treasure trove of documents to ask questions of government officials and find things they can do other stories on. yet, they are censoring it and refusing to talk about it. i don't know if they want to work for the joe biden administration. i am not sure if they are afraid of what will happen if they write about this because they are in the same personal circles with these people in the d.c. area. in terms of journalistic integrity. when this anonymous op-ed came out, it's one thing to protect their safety. that's not what happened here. over the last 3 years journalistic outlets have rearranged the agreement with anonymous sourcing and use it to protect political opponents of

the president rather than expose corruption. the american people are misled about who the people are making these false accusations. >> if you are a journalist and you have a long history of journalism and you think is a big conspiracy theory, why not ask tony, let me see your evidence? why not investigate it and put it to bed if you think it's a big conspiracy theory? >> because it's been done. this is something you and i have discussed. >> by whom? >> the "wall street journal." our corporate sister here. >> [overlapping talking]. >> what did they say? >> i have it here. october 23rd "wall street journal" in the news section.

corporate records reviewed by the "wall street journal" show no role for joe biden. no discussion of joe biden taking a role and they note he was a private citizen at the time these discussions were taking place. >> [overlapping talking]. >> wait, wait, wait. >> [overlapping talking]. >> there was no payment whatsoever. they looked into it and found nothing. yet you want to pursue this because you have a political agenda. >> not true, juan. the "wall street journal" confirmed what? that there was a holding company? >> no money and no discussion. i repeat. >> [overlapping talking]. >> i will tell everybody, you are okay with the biden family doing business with the chinese communists. >> they were not doing business! oh my god, they didn't do

business. >> that's just not true. >> oh, my gosh. >> [overlapping talking]. >> juan, why did hunter biden represent the guy when he was thrown in prison for bribery? >> what are you talking about? >> [overlapping talking]. >> juan, that's not something reported by fox. that's out there in the public record. >> come on, man. >> dana, this anonymous guy who is a nobody and this huge story with really big evidence? >> i was reminded of the second term in the bush administration. i tried to get the reporters some access to the president in a way where he could have a free flowing conversation. we called them off the record. i remember this. the "new york times" took this principled stand and refused to

come. they sat there indignantly in the briefing room while colleagues were getting information from the president. and this ideal of anonymous and senior administration officials. we were going to make a big announcement. an assistant press secretary told a reporter no you can't refer to me as a senior administration official. you can refer to me as a junior administration official. reporters pushing this line all the time. think about it. nikki haley and many others were considered to be anonymous and the "new york times" let that go for a long time. it was a policy advisor? that's hard to swallow. >> greg, you looked fired up. go ahead. >> well, you want to talk about principles. glenn greenwald just resigned from his own media empire because they wanted to censor his critical sections of joe

biden in his article. that's impress they have he resigned from his own business. think about what the "times" did. it was a deception. the reason they made it anonymous is they wanted to leave it to our imagination who this person could be. they knew the person was a nobody. but they thought if they could call him -- if they just had his by-line the story could not be published. by saying it was anonymous that played that it was a security issue but it was a deception to trick readers. anybody laughing about how this guy is a nobody is missing the point. the "times" massacraded a low

low-level hack. if i said i am having someone from the "new york times" on my show tomorrow and putting in disguise. he will rereal -- reveal a long history of sexual harassment at the "times." i have to keep it anonymous because i don't want this person harmed. you find out 2 years later it was a janitor who worked for the "times." fellow media are not going after the "times" because they still want to write for them and go to the parties. >> i will think of creative punishment for the "new york times." up next. are we heading for election chaos? it might be looking like that. we will tell you what just

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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ >> welcome back. don't expect to wake up on wednesday morning knowing the election results with the way things are looking. the supreme court allowing north carolina to accept ballots up to 9 days after the election. the high court punted on the case that lets pennsylvania receive absentee ballots for 3 days after november 3rd. president trump sounding off on his desire to know the winner on election night. >> it would be very proper and nice if a winner were declared on november 3rd instead of counting ballots for 2 weeks, when is totally inappropriate. i don't believe that's by our

laws. we will see what happens. >> greg, there are legalities involved. what is the point of having an election day if we move it to another day? >> yeah. it should have been moved backwards earlier. we could have done this for the month we were locked up. in y2k we anticipated chaos and it didn't happen. only one side is promising violence and protests if they lose. it's not the deplorables. if the republicans lose, they will be pissed off but they will go to work the next day. if the democrats lose, we are told to expect unrest if trump wins. our media fearful have lowered the bar for behavior for the left. we can expect these babies to wreak havoc and they will while republicans go back to work and

board up the buildings and hope their stuff doesn't get stolen. liberal leads upon accept the violence while looters steal washing machines. mayors will talk about injustice and how perhaps all of this was deserved because of evil trump. >> dana, the early voting members have reached 80 million now. is it that people are interested in this the election day over you have more time to early vote now rather than going on election day? >> that's a great question. we will know more after we get the election surveys back. maybe it is that people made up their mind months ago and were anxious to get this over with and don't want to turn on the tv for 5 days and they want to move

on with their life and hope their candidate wins. i think it's unfortunate there is a narrative out there that republicans just want to suppress the vote and they are pushing back on these ideas. for example, in pennsylvania you can send your ballot through november 6th. election day is november 3rd. i believe the tradition of understand -- not trying to change the voting rules should stand. that's why you see litigation. i don't think it's about suppressing the vote. >> juan, what about the narrative that the supreme court would help president trump because these deadlines help the democrats? >> the courts should get out of it and leave it to the states to control the election. in terms of what we will know on

election night, i think if biden is doing well. we will know something. he is doing well right now in the battleground states and even doing well in texas. to hear president trump say, we should know. i can't believe it. unlike dana, i think it's trump and his guys who screwed up the postal service in terms of delivering ballots. they have long lines from closing polling places. they are the ones that are always trying to find a reason for people not to vote. >> so, jesse, round this out for us. >> we are going to know who won on election day whether the media wants to declare trump the victor not. we will see the numbers coming in. i think the court decision in pennsylvania is good for donald trump. all they said is that late ballots, they won't even be

counted. they will just be segregated and put aside. if the margin of victory in pennsylvania is smaller than the amount of segregated ballots, then maybe you will have a legal challenge. that's fine. i don't see that happening. in north carolina the president is in a strong position too. they will have late ballots coming in. they have to be postmarked before election day or they are invalid. you won't have democrats manufacturing votes. they have lawyers and poll watches the republicans. in north carolina watching these things get counted at election day and it will only be a trickle and not enough to swing the vote. >> i hope we know on election day. coming up next a text to the girl scouts congratulating amy

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going after the girl scouts. the organization was forced to delete a tweet that congratulated amy coney barrett for becoming the fifth woman to be confirmed to the supreme court. the girl scouts later apologized which is worse and said it was not intended to appear political. dana, counter-culture is infiltrating everywhere. first the girl scouts and next the bluebirds, dana. >> the bluebirds, remember their pledge to finish what you began. all good lessons that you learned. this is so disappointing. >> say that again? >> i pledge to finish what i began. like your projects. >> [laughing]. >> i can't remember the rest of the pledge. >> [laughing]. >> do we still have the

bluebirds? i made a cute little thing. little badges and everything. anyway, it's unfortunate they apologized. what would have been more brave and would have set a better example for the young women they hope to raise would be to say this tweet was not intended to be political, period. but no apology. you don't have to apologize. as you said earlier, greg, about being intimidated. why would you teach girl scouts to be intimidated. that's ridiculous. >> absolutely. it's terrible. katie, he's are the same creeps who don't raise any objections over looting or beheadings. this is what they get mad about because it's so easy to fake outrage about this stuff. >> i don't feel bad for the girl scouts. i am on their blog and they have a post from 2011 and the title

is hillary clinton world leader, girl scouts. the question for the girl scouts are they really about women's empowerment for all of us? or are they just an organization that is political for one side while pretending to non-political whether they have to delete a tweet? >> yes. juan, why are the girl scouts on twitter? just get off of it. >> [laughing]. >> yes. >> they think of it as marketing. i think the girl scouts is a great organization and they intended this to be apolitical but they were blind to the political pain to people who object to a rushed process that was highlily political. >> come on. >> and they should learn to be

a gracious loser. >> [laughing]. >> all right, jesse. juan gets upset by the girl scouts. >> no. i said they were a great organization, jesse. >> how do you feel? >> listen the only thing i would say. i want to talk about the concept of back lash. that's not when you say something on twitter and liberals are upset. everyone who is a liberal upset on twitter. if you go to a vebegan convention and eat steak it will upset them. >> "one more thing" up next. as president, the first step i will take

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♪ >> it's time now for "one more thing," what you have today? >> dana, there's so much anxiety in the world, the election is coming up, the pandemic, don't forget the asteroid headed towards the earth. how about a crunchy sweet cookie? take a look at this vault to protect oreos in case the asteroid hit earth. the satire is real when sibley tweeted the question what happens to the oreos of the asteroid hits the earth? the oreos brand rap to the cookies and heat resistant mylar and put them in a vault and also included the recipe for or euros. it's nice to have a break break from the nerve-racking reality

that we call life today. of >> i love and oreo indeed, okay, jesse. >> it it's time for hate, don't do that. i sound like greg when i say stuff like that, don't i? this year, people decorate for halloween differently, some go all in, some take it easy, but this house in dallas, texas, decorated so intensely that people called 911. look at that house. neighbors were freaked out, they called the cops, steve novak, death themed hollow into court, fake blood, fake murders, the officers investigated and they checked it out. they didn't slap them with cops or anything, they let them slide. so, you know, it gets scary out there. >> that guy has a wild imagination. i want to tell you about the really great woman, 90 years old, her name is tessa williams and she's been holed up in her d.c. apartment since the

pandemic began. she found a very special connection with the outside world and we got the photos from "the washington post," thank you for that. across the street from her apartment is a gem that started doing classes and once the city began reopening, she watched them from her window for years. she's been 15 years as a professional ballerina and that gave her a very steady stream of motivation and entertainment, and her daughter wrote a letter to the gym. they tell her to keep moving and sent her little notes and messages which i just think is sweet as can be. greg, your next. >> let's do this. >> greg birdbath news, bret bair is going to love this, let's roll it. [laughter] >> oh. >> where's the music. ♪

>> oh, baby. oh, greg. i'm going to take my clothes o off. >> that was really amazing. katie, we owe you for next time. "special report" is up next, how about that for a lead up, bret? >> bret: birdbath, that's a new one. good evening, welcome to washington on bret baier and breaking tonight, we are for full campaigning days away from the election. already 80 million of you voted in person or via email. again, 80 million votes already cast. blowing past 2016's early vote of 58 million and depending on the state, there are still days left. the presidential campaign focusing on the handful of key states, crucial elements and their formulas to electoral college victory. the emphasis tonight is on the south. president trump was in tampa ea