the story is ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i spent a lot of this day on the phone with ups trying to find out what happened to a package we overnighted on monday.r we got some answers, but we are missing others. we'll get to that in just a minute. but first, the big picture we've been reporting on for some timet it's been obvious for decades that the biden family has gotten rich from selling influence abroad. joe biden held a series of high-level jobs in the u.s. government, center and vice president. based on that fact and that fact alone, biden's son and brother approach foreign governments, energy conglomerates, oligarchs, dictators, and they offered to

exchange favors from joe biden for cash. the polite term for that practice is "influence peddling," sometimes illegal under american law, sometimes not. until recently, no one debated this fact. several little news organizations, in fact, have written about biden's business dealings over the years. it's only since joe biden received the democratic nomination and anyone in the media has claimed otherwise. this week, we introduced you to one of the biden families former business partners, a man called tony bobulinski, who confirmed more conclusively than anyone ever has with the bidens have been doing. on two step. occasions, bobulinski met to discuss their business withhi china. biden has denied knowing about those deals. joe biden's lien, tony bobulinski proved it. it was a major story, not just because it happened here.

we only interviewed tony bubble and skin the first place because nobody else would. there was a complete media blackout on his story. there still is. in the last three days, we just checked, the l name "tony bob hs not been mentioned one time o on -- here is his exchange with a biden campaign spokesman. >> there were more accusations made this week on the most watched fox news interview a couple nights ago from tucker carlson. have those meetings happen, as has been alleged, when joe biden was a citizen? >> this is aar smear campaign distracting from four years of donald trump's reckless leadership. i'm not going to accept thedo premise of the question. we have five days to keep p our eyes on the prize, and that is to vote joe biden as the next president of the united states. >> okay, fair enough.

>> tucker: we are not going to waste any time on this smear campaign, says the spokesman. in other words, we don't feel like answering a simple, fact-based question of relevance to voters in the days before an election, so we are not going to. we are not embarrassed to admite we're not going to because no one had the courage to make this answer, including you. "fair enough," says the anchor. there you have it. the state of the american news media in october 2020. mr. fair enough is still one of the bravest people in journalism. at least he asked, sort of fear the rest of them pretend it's not really a story. but it is a story, and it's not going away. tonight, james rosen sinclair confirm the fbi opened a criminal investigation into the biden family. "hunter biden and associates," last year. that investigation is still underway tonight. less than a week before an election, we learned this. what else will we learn? very little, if the people in charge have their way.

our professional class is dismissed, from day one, the revelations about the biden family. as part of a russian until operation. there is no evidence for that, no matter how may people repeat it. never has been evidence, there never will be evidence. it is totally untrue. and yet, the public is buyings it, anyway, we are sad to. voters have been cut off from the facts, whichhi is the pointf shutting down the free flow of information. and all of the news you receive is manufacture propaganda, you are apt to believe it, and why wouldn't you believe it? you have an alternative. here are the facts, a new harris survey out today conducted by longtime democratic ulster mark penn, found 51% of respondents,, believe inn your post is dissemg "russian disinformation." it is hard to imagine a scarier and more depressing result than that. you assume "the today show" and the rest of it is garbage, but it is not harmless, they are liars, and their lives have consequences. how do you maintain a democratic

system when reality itself has been banned. that is something we arean going to have to figure out. glenn greenwald has thought a lot about this. a traditional leftist, committed above all to forcing transparency on people who hold power. years ago, greenwald cofounded a new site called "intercept," and today he resigned. in a statement, greenwald explained why. "the intercept editors, in violation of my contractual rights of editorial freedom, censoredon an article i wrote ts week, unless i remove sections critical of democratic candidate joe biden. and he went on. his full statement is up on an internet platform called sub static, and the matter who you plan to vote for next week, we invite you to read it. glenn, thank you so much for coming on. of the idea of you resigning from a news organization you

helped found is stunning. tell us why you did it. >> well, the news organization i cocreated was in 2014, at the height of the snowden reporting. i left "the guardian" to report it because i saw there was constraints on realism and our ability to report freely against governments, against power centers, against all kinds of institutions that held authority come in the premise of a news outlet, the core, overarching premise, the reason it was created, was to ensure that journalists would always have complete journalistic independence and editorial freedom. never have to pull punches journalistically or pay homage to pieties because of the preference or ideological preference of editors or anybody else, that was the core founding ideas and vision, and that is what makes it so amazing that it is the very outlet i cocreated that was built on my journalistic accomplishments, then tried to intervene to

censor me six days before an election because i wanted to publish reporting and analysis about the evidence that raises serious questions about the conduct of the candidate that all of the editors at that outlet vehemently and enthusiastically support. >> tucker:ti i would imagine that some of our viewers don't read "the intercept." you lived outside our country, which is one of the reasons i think what you say is true. tell us what this portends for the future here in the united states. >> so, "the intercept" was actually, for a while, a unique publication, and i think the vision i described is one reason, and another was that it was intended, above all else, to be highly skeptical of the claims of intelligence agencies, the time we were doing the reporting, the attacks were coming from the nsa, cia, deep state against me, my sources, edward snowden, andg constantly. we set out to say, we are going

to investigate them. we are going to be skeptical of them. we are going to subject their assertions to critical scrutiny, and i am so embarrassed and angered that the media outlet that i t created, along with two other excellent journalist to do that, the only article published about all of these documents that have emerged about joe biden come other than a column of my writing owns facebook and twitter for censort made referencefa in passing, snidely and dismissively, to say no one should get attention becausee it is russian disinformation committed site of a letter from john brennan, james clapper, mike hayden, and the rest of the goons from the cia and intelligence community asserting it, and worse still, that letter said we have no evidence of russia's involvement, they omitted thept phrase, citing the letter to encourage people to ignore evidence on the grounds that russia manufactured it and the evidence was fabricated, even though there has never been evidence that is true and everything since has disproven it, showing russia was not

involved in any of this and nobody, certainly not joe biden, disputes these emails and other text messages are completely real and authentic. >> tucker: that's horrifying. so what you are watching as agencies of the u.s. government turning their awesome and unconstrained powers against the american population. >> this is the real story of the last four years of the trump administration, which is that for a long time on the left, there was a healthy skepticism of the cia, a lot of antiwar activism in the bush and cheney years. that has disappeared, the reason it disappeareded is because the cia, from the very first days of the trump administration, even before he was inaugurated, devoted themselves to sabotagind administration because donald trump questioned a few of their pieties, and that can't be done in washington. whoever does that must be destroyed, and so the cia on the deep state operatives became heroes of the liberal left, the people who support the democratic party. they are now in a fully union with the neocons, the

bush-cheney operatives, the silicon valley, and wall street. that is the union of power, along with mainstream media outlets that are fully behind the democratic party, which is likely to at least takert over e branch of government, if not all of them in the coming election, and it is a very alarming proposition because they are authoritarian and believe init censorship and suppression of information that exposes them in any kind of a critical light. >> tucker: for a u.s. government agency to try and disseminate propaganda within the united states, is there any clear attack on democracy than that? >> so, when we were doing the snowden reporting, one thing that induced edward snowden to come forward as someone who had worked in the cia and nsa was his anger and horror that the tools of the nsa had been turned on the american people. they are supposed to spy on foreign adversary governments, but they weren't, they were collecting our phone records. same with the cia, they are trained disinformation agents. that is what they do, they lie for a living. they are supposed to do that in other countries, where we want

to induce some sort of change, overthrow government, topple a regime, whatever "interference" the government wants to do, the way we were upset russia did in 2016, that is what they were trying to do. the law, though, the obvious, foundational prohibition on having a security state, national security state after world war ii, it was never supposed to be turned domestically. they were supposed to be involved in our politics or disseminating propaganda. go turn onat any of the other cable networks or pick up the op-ed page of any of the biggest newspapers. all you'll see our ex-members of the cia, doj, fbi, nsa, telling americans what they ought to believe, they have infiltratd the means of communication, through leaks, they propagandize the american people in a way that is incredibly dangerous, no matter what your ideology is. >> tucker: i totally agree, and i am ashamed of the times i am in. you are telling the truth. glenn greenwald, congratulations

for getting out of there. good to see you. >>ld thank you, tucker. appreciate it. >> tucker: mark morgan is the acting a commissioner of u.s. customs and border protection, twitter band ten -- imagine a head of an agency being banned on social media -- and they did so for alleging in hateful conduct. what did mark morgan do, that was so dangerous and vile that you should never be able to hear from again? he wrote this, "ebp, customs and border control and the u.s. army corps of engineers, continue to build wall every day. stops drugs from entering our country. it's a fact, walls work." you might disagree with mark morgan on policy, maybe you don't like donald trump, but how is that false, exactly? ask the many other countries around the world that have built walls, why do they do that? that's true. so maybe there was some mistake. maybe twitter did this by accident. mark morgan appealed, twitter wrote that, "our support team has determined a violation did

take place and therefore we will not overturn, you will not be able to access twitter." in other words, we banned you on purpose. the truth is not a defense in this country. if we don't like what you are saying or its political effect, we will silence. there was inevitably news coverage of this. after 20 hours, twitter reversed its decision, claiming us twitter always does that it was a misunderstanding. "after reviewing your account, it looks like we made an error." but they didn't make ann error. they showed us who we know we ty are. mark morgan is currently along a section of the rio grande, where the wall is being billed. good to seeht you tonight. >> you too, tucker. >> tucker: how does it feel that someone who expresses a fact based opinions themselves censored? >>re i didn't understand. i didn't think i was living in america. what happened to me, tucker, should scare every american

citizen right now. they really should be listening to your show. and tucker, let's be clear, this wasn't about that tweet, that was just the vehicle they used. what they were trying to censor was my message i've been trying to get to the american people about how successful this presidentth has been by providig not onlyen the tools for the was behind me, but the network of o policy that allows us to effectively, absolutely be successful in addressing illegal migration across like we had last year. i've been equally as vocal of the critics whose policies want to undo all of that, tucker. it would absolutely open borders, and we would just have another illegal immigration crisis. that would result in an illegal invasion. that is what they are trying to censor. that is the truth they are trying to keep from the american people. >> tucker: not to mention a humanitarian disaster. but is it a discussion of

public policy sacrosanct? we can openly debate the best course for the country. you are making a public policy argument, were you not? >> that's exactly right, and i'll stand behind what my policy argument is based on facts, statistical analysis, and historical trends, but that's exactly right. this is exactly the type of debate we should be having right now, but twitter did what they did on purpose, make no mistake about it. just a few days before the election, they knew what they were doing intentionally, and after they did it come after they got their hands caught in theid cookie jar, it is disingenuous to say they maden n error. the only reason why they reversed it is a went viral, got national attention. that's the truth. >> tucker: right. doing that to you, imagine what they're doing to people with less power. mark morgan, thanks so much for joining us. appreciate it. >> you bet. thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: last week, we told you part of a very weird story about how we sent documents,

primary documents relevant to the biden family from new york to art melnyk los angeles on they went visiting. missing. today, the flash drive was returned in a new envelope, not the original envelope. but they did not include an explanation for what happened. what have we learned about that? we spent all day reporting on it. will tell you straight ahead. ♪ - the world is in turmoil. been turned on it's head. of a possible recession..

- american cities are experiencing a devastating surge..

- hello, i'm michael youssef. lately, we are hearing so many conflicting voices and i don't blame you if you are anxious and worried and troubled. but if i told you that there's only one voice that you can absolutely trust. after all, he wants nothing from you and wants to give you everything. i'm talking about the lord jesus christ, who said, " come unto me, all who are carrying heavy burdens and worry and anxiety. and i will give you rest. " he's the only one who can give you true rest and peace. will you come to him? - [female voice] are you waiting to find a trustworthy voice in the midst of the chaos of this world? visit findingtruepeace.com to find a voice that will never let you down. again, that's findingtruepeace.com.

♪ >> tucker: last night, we told you about a weird experience we had. on monday, one of our producers in new york overnighted a package to our executive producer and me in los angeles, we were there preparing for an interview with a former biden business partnery bobulinski. somewhere along thepa way, the contents disappeared, a flash drive with primary documents relating to the biden family. we made a copy of the files before we sent them because we are careful. we get a lot of documents from a lot of different sources all the time, but that is especially true in election years. before we put them on the air we have to determine first whether they were real -- these were real. whether newsworthy and whether it is legal to show them. we wanted to assess what we have, we are still assessing it. but the point is the package never arrived. proprietary reporting on the biden family and documents sent between journalists by

supposedly secure overnight mail disappeared. they vanished on the same day we were conducting a heavily publicized interview based in part on documents from the biden family. so you can imagine we wanted to know whathe happened. unfortunately, we still don't know what happened. this morning, ups issued a press release announcing he had found out flash drives and boasting about their customer service. "ups will always focus first on our customers and will never stop working to solve issues.""u which is fine. ups is a reliable company. we agree with that. that's why we use them in the first place. and yet, they lost our biden documents. how? ups won't tell us how. we spent a lot of the day talking to executives and there. they can look fast i was found on monday night o night in manhattan. they suggest it might have been sitting on the floor there. they couldn't prove that because .remarkably come in a room where millions of high-value packages are handled, there are no security cameras. that's what they told us. ups says the employee who found our flash drive simply dropped it on top of the supervisor's

desk. our documents that they are undiscovered for more than 24 hours until we announced on television they were missing. that is their story. obviously, weth have some questions about it, but ups executives did not answer our questions. "there are no more details. security is returning, polly's again we were unable to deliver it next day at the service level you requested." " there are exchange's went like this for hours, and the main question we are never changed: how did our flash drive get separated from the package we sent? that seemed like something worth knowing. the envelope was securely sealed, we know that, ups does not dispute that. was the package torn open accidentally by a machine? that seems unlikely. ups says that almost never happens. so we are left with the obvious explanation. someone, for some reason, opened our package and removed a flash drive containing documents that were damaging to the biden family. we'd love to know who would do that and why. be helpful to see the envelope itself, but ups says we can't see it because they threw

it away. so here we are. we got our flas flash drive back today, that's great, but we would like some answers. speaking of answers, we mention the documents we get from a lot of people, and we received an awful lot of documents recently about hunter biden. we haven't aired all of them. in fact, many we have not aired. the ones that are pertinent to his business career abroad, favors he did on behalf of foreign clients with the help of his father, that seems relevant, and it seems like news, and we brought it to you, and we are not ashamed of that. but there are a lot of documents about hunter biden's personal life that we haven't brought to you, and we aren't going to unless we tell you why. one is the obvious answer, he is not running for president. those documents pertain to his dad? of course. hunter biden is a fallen man at this point. i should say i knew hunter biden fairly well, we live near each other in washington for quite some time, i knew his wife, an absolutely outstanding person from a good person. i never thought hunter biden was

a bad person. i thought he had demons, but in the time i knew him, he kept them mostly under control. at some point come he lost control of those demons come in the world knows that now. he is now humiliated and alone. the point is, pounding on a man, jumping on and piling on when he is already down to something we do not want to be involved with. so, with that.

>> tucker: if you are into identity politics, classifying people by their characteristics, you think amy coney barrett's confirmation would be good news for women. a lot of people see the world that way. but surprisingly, we know this is a shock, feminists who pretend to represent women are angry. that's weird. they don't want anyone celebrating amy coney barrett's confirmation. the girl scouts found out the hard way today. a senior fellow for family choice has that story for us. hey, lisa. >> hi, tucker. they sure did. yesterday, the girl scouts sent

out a tweet congratulating amy coney barrett for being the fifth woman confirmed to the supreme court, however, the backlash, including from people like congresswoman ayanna pressley, to the girl scouts of course caved, took the tweet down, put out a, statement saying the tweet was viewed as partisan and political, and they are a nonpartisan, nonpolitical organization. however, here's the kicker, tucker. they have h previously sent out support of hillary clinton in and even prior to that, and they put out a tribute to the late ruth bader ginsburg. so the former girl scout, the message is clear to young girls across the country, and that message is yous don't count unless you are a liberal, and that is the same message hillary clinton and her campaign sent in 2016 when madeline albright said there is a special place in hell for people who don't support clinton, and the same message joe biden is sending two black voters, that you aren't black if you don't support him. so clearly, if we don't fault

bow down to the altar of progressives. >> tucker: why do they have to wreck all of this country's institutions in the meantime? why wreck the girl scouts? you know what i mean? why are we putting up with that? >> and also, this is what i just think it's so ironic. you have all these people right now, one, they point to trump as the problem, they say why is america so divided? you look at the nba, a you lookt the girl scouts, everything is poison, everything is poisoned by progressive politics. that is why we are so divided. we are essentially shutting out half of america from the equation, and that is the problem. everything is tainted in america with politics and partisanship, and we can't have anything nice anymore, but it's just ruined after all the fun. >> tucker: politics does poison everything, it would be nice to have some sincerely nonpolitical institutions in this country. >> i would love that. >> tucker: that is a smart point. good to see you. >> thank you, tucker.

>> tucker: if you look in the polls, the president is trailing, more in some places than others, leading and others. he is making remarkable progress, some of the world's most famous rappers are now sort of aligned with trump. kanye west, sort of, met with the president many times and support some of his policies, one of the best known rapper. this evening, another rap artist to the list, lil wayne, tweeted about an hour ago, "just had a great meeting with donald trump fear of the platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership. listens to what he had stated and are sure he can and will get it done." okay. [laughs] what does that mean for the rest of us? what is the platinum plan that lil wayne is excited about? according to the white house, prosecutinger --

if there is ever a bellwether rapper of how this election is going to go in the rapper community, when you've lost lil wayne, you've lostth lil america. [laughs] you can't make this year up, it's just too good. it's not just the presidency of force on the line, it is the senate, and so, taking a look at tonight, what races should we be watching? tina freeman knows the dana perino knows the answer to that. what should those of us who have been focused on one race, what are the others? >> well, there are several, but we do not have enough time for all of them, totally nerd out with me, but i think one thing to keep in mind overall, tucker, very few ticket splitters left, that means when people go to vote, they are voting straight republican or a straight democrat. he used to get a little more ticket splitting in the past, those days are kind of behind

us. but president trump this last week, obviously he is working really hard o to try to close this, that could really help make the difference between a chuck schumer or a mitch mcconnell led senate next year. i would start in georgia. there are two senate races in georgia, and georgia has a system that if you don't get to 50%, you have to go to a runoff in january. one of those races is deftly going to a runoff, kelly loeffler-doug collins race, they are not going to get to 50%. the other is incumbent senator david perdue against john ossoff. i think david perdue has announced he is not going to do the final debate with john ossoff, and will instead join president trump for a rally on sunday. that probably makes sense, he did not have a great debate last night, and it shows president trump is not taking georgia for granted. a littlele nervous on that one. another one, tucker, is arizona. president trump is going to be

there on tuesday. before and biden both very much want to win arizona. the senator up for election is martha mcsally.ll she has a very good ground game, probably better than any of the other senate candidates and she is bringing in mike lee and ted cruz to campaign for her this weekend. however -- however the president does there is probably how she will do there, so that is one to watch. the last one is north carolina. cal cunningham is the democrat, basically trying to take thom tillis out. cal cunningham is running on character, tucker, and about a month ago it surfaced he is having an extramarital affair and has been hiding from the media not talking about that. that now raises probably within one point, so north carolina is another one to watch. >> tucker: interesting. all three of those states, those will track the presidential results? >> i do think that they probably will, but i also want to mention yone other one. kind of a sleeper race no one is really talking about, but take a look at john james up in

michigan. he is the republican, and a he has a black man who has been running real hard against the incumbent,in gary peters. gary peters doesn't have a great -- he doesn't have a great campaign. john james has a pretty exciting campaign, and president trump, when he was there this week, really gave him a lift, so they are also on the ticket together. >> tucker: john james is an impressive guy. great to see you. dana perino, thank you. >> yeah, see you next week. >> tucker: see you. we show you footage of violence and deluding, rioting, that's been going on for days in swing states that could havefo an efft on the presidential election. has anything changed? and update tonight from a reporter who was attacked during the riots. the highest next. ♪ he riots in philadelphia, , , , ,

♪ >> tucker: philadelphia is a major i city on the eastern seaboard,ab our former capital, it's in the state of pennsylvania. pennsylvania could behe a swing state next week. all off that explains why the media are ignoring the rioting and violence that's gone on philadelphia for weeks. the police there were warned to stand down as more than a

thousand blm activist, joe biden voters, looted. a lot of people were shot, and authorities only started to take action after they found a van full of explosives in the city. antifa and blm did not stop attacking businesses, they attacked a handful of reporters who tried to cover what was happening. as we showed last night, they did it on camera. >> [indistinct] >> tucker: elijah shafer is the reporter you just being attacked on camera. he was reporting on the riots, i mean, what the hell?as what kind of country -- was that a 7-eleven? >> that was actually five below, a discount store that sells $5 and under items. >> tucker: tell us the context

for that.. >> yeah, so, the police -- i guarantee you, they were told to stand down. they lost control of several city blocks. law enforcement failed to not only stop a first-round, but a second and third round of looting across four or five different entire shopping centers. these were not just a little strip malls from the middle of america. this was a walmart supercenter strip mall. this is something massive you would think they would have security police, make this a priority. the authorities just stood by as people want to store after store after store, and what is crazy as theyy cleared one store, then the rioters and looters would jump to the next command they just couldn't keep up with them. >> tucker: so, you were a reporter doing her job in committing journalism in the middle of a riot. you got assaulted for doing it. journalists -- did the committee to protect journalists rush to your defense or pay your medical bills, demand justice?

p>> no, quite the opposite. if you slow the video down, and according to a police officer i spoke to from the philadelphia department, one of the leaders had a gun andsp he pulled it out on me, you can see him briefly, play-by-play, so they came at me with a firearm, and they came out lee with a mob they started attacking, he merely punched me in the face, and what was interesting was they were specifically targeting white journalists. there were other great journalists that were there thar were people of color, but they were leaving them alone. you see the racial divide in thisis country, where it's not only not safe to be a reporter telling the truth, but also the racial tensions have made things very difficult in this country, the narratives being played. the man had a gun, and i'll say this: i owe it to god, they give praise to a jesus for saving my life in that moment, because just outside, a hundred yards or so away, a 15-year-old girl was shot, multiple guns were fired,b so they had guns, they were using guns. luckily for me, all i received was about a dozen or so blows to the head or body.

>> tucker: this is happening because the people in charge are allowing it to happen, and they should be deeply ashamed of themselves. i so nobody came to your defense? there wasn't an editorial in "the new york times" that a racist mob threatened you and beat you up? >> that's a good question. i know "the new york times" talked about that they call the right wing glorifying, or exaggeratinggh or hyper focusing on violence. have to say to someone at "the new york times" was sitting in their office, writing in the comfortability of their flat, writing in judging andti characterizing people, look at my face. i'm a young man. i'm married. my wife is at home. i'm just there capturinged the news while they are not. and a look at someone like myself and many other brave people who are putting their lives on the line and they tell me my face being beaten from a gun being pointed at my head -- this is the second time in just a few weeks of had a gun pulled out on me while reporting on these riots. you are telling me this is an exaggeration? i'm taking blows for america, you are sitting there in your fancy desk with your nice salary, telling us real reporters why we are wrong, and

that's why i have a hotel all, i have a show called "slightly offensive" that covers all of this, tomorrow on youtube i'm going step-by-step, because journalism is dead in this country and it's dangerous, and i know why the journalist don't go out there and do this, it's because it actually takes a risk, it requires sacrifice, and that has been lost today in our country, and it breaks my heart to realize that people are not getting truth, they had just getting opinions, and the truth that isus being set free out the by many brave and amazing independent and right-wingan journalist, even some independent left journalist, is ndbeing shut down by the corpore media companies because they refused to show america what is really happening, and i think americans deserve better this election season. >> tucker: yeah, well, they're going to be consequences, too. at some point, people are going to take a lot in their own hands. i don't want that, i don't think anyone w does, but it's inevitae if they allow t this kind of disorder to continue. people are sick of it, they have every reason to be. elijah, glad you're okay.re thanks for joining us.

>> thank you. >> tucker: so, twitter bands people for wrong things. how long before the federal government does the same? it's already happening in the u.k. news hate crime laws, this is real legislation, could allow police to arrest citizens were "dangerous abuse" in their own homes. that's real. you should pay attention. that's next. ♪ ht ht back..... (calm inspirational music)

- i can't stop worrying. - why can't i sleep at night? - how do i deal with all this stress? - when did the world get so scary? - hello, this is michael youssef, there can be no doubt that our world is filled with troubles right now. and yet, there is one person who said, "i can give you peace that can never be shaken even in the worst of your circumstances." jesus is the way the truth and the only giver of eternal life and he is inviting you to come

and surrender to him. and he will give you unbelievable peace, a peace that seems too good to be true, but it's true. will you come to him? (calm inspirational music) - [female voice] are you looking for a peace that can withstand any hardship life can bring? visit findingtruepeace.com to find answers. again, that's findingtruepeace.com. (calm inspirational music)

>> tucker: andrew cuomo is the governor of new york. he's the son of mario cuomo and the brother of a cnn anchor. his personal life in public life often intersect. that just happened. rick leventhal has the details. hey, rick. >> we are on the same page because new york's governor often talked about his love life but when it comes to his daughters is apparently aca hands-off policy. the new york post reports that a state trooper assigned to the governors security detail got

hot and heavy with 25-year-old cara kennedy cuomo. the trooper met the first daughter while acting as a bodyguard for her dad and they began dating about seven months ago after she moved to the governors mansion in albany because of the coronavirus pandemic. "the new york post" reports cooper pfeiffer was transferred to a remote outpost near the y canadian border soon after the governor found out about it. law-enforcement source told the "the post" said the transfer was due to the protocol of dignitary protection. "the post" also quotes a sourcing that the real reason is the governor didn't like whatever they were doing. that's an actual quote. apparently there was no finding in the conduct. the trooper's record has been ltarnished. here's the kicker. the trooper bought a home near albany and now has to commute 160 miles each way to work, something the cops call highway therapy. whatever the governor did or didn't do, it didn't work because according to "the post," the two are still dating. >> tucker: thank you.

for the record we are rooting for the lovebirds. this show stands for love. >> any fatherr can understand maybe perhaps the governor's actions or inactions. >> tucker: if only we had that much power. great to see you. a more ominous story comes from the u.k., from scotland. a lot of trends that we wind up living with to get in. and ominously called a hate crime and public order bill now under consideration would allow authorities to arrest people for things they say in their own homes at the dinner table. why is the public order bill focused on people and what they do in private? it's a good question. what exactly is hate speech. everyone is against it. does hate speech include praising the border wall? according to legislation it would. you'd not be allowed to "stir up of any kind. you could be arrested. in other words disagreement people would be a crime if those people had power.o how long before we face laws like this in the united states? possible..

pedro gonzales is an assistant editor. thanks for comingli on. let's define the terms because of it's helpful to know what we are talking about. what's hate speech? >> hate speech is whatever the people prosecuting you for hate speech say it is. t that sounds a little bit reductionist but that's where they it comes down to. and entirely subjective standard that these people think society ought to be organized around. if you disagree,e, you're goingo prison. >> tucker: so if you allow the people in charge to define hate speech unchallenged and we are allowing that here in this country, than what you're doing is handing them power over your mind and crushing all dissent, right? >> yes, that's exactly right. this is very dystopian. it's right out of "minority report." it's basically precrime. we need to know what you're saying in the privacy of your home so that those words cannot become actions.

we have to basically throw you in prison before you canas act against some victim group. this stuff only goes one way of course. it's only ever directed at victim groups and it seems to always work against white people, whether it's in europe or the united states. it has the exact opposite effect in my view. it's profoundly divisive because you are creating resentment in society for basically every group that's excluded from the protections -- let's say supposedly the hate speech ideal is sincere. we want to protect everyone from as speech. it would be wrong but somewhat understandable. but it's not likeke that. only some groups deserve protections from speech. others do not. i think it inches us closer towards a kind of war of all against all by inculcating this kind of resentment and people if it doesn't crush them out right.

>> tucker: that such a smart and subtle point. so what you're saying is a law purportedly designed to suppress extremism causes it. >> yes. absolutely. when you tell people that because their immutable characteristics, being born white for example, something like that, that you need to be treated as a potential terrorist and that we need to know what you're saying the privacy ofn your own home when you're talking your friends and family, i mean, that's either going to psychologically break you and make you kind of just a docile little automaton which is i think what these people would love on the one hand. or it's going to drive you towards extremism which i think they would also lovet because every timeme someone acts out le this, when they been driven mad, it feeds their narrative. see, here is proof. here's a justification for what we're doing and now i'm going to ratchet it up a little bit more. >> tucker: why not just treat everyone the same, and use the same standard for everyone? i thought that was the l goal.

>> that's what good people think. that would make too much sense and i think it would be tooo easy, or not is contrived i shouldo say. i think it's hard for decent people, for good people to look at this and see it for what ite really is because again, on the surface, we are doing this to protect certain people but that's not really what it's about. it's really about power. i think even calling it a double standard is mistaken. it's about enforcing a kind of hierarchy with the people that are creating these laws sensibly to protect others. they are the ones obviously at the top. t they are the ones we need to give all the power to so they can keep the rest of us safe. >> tucker: very, very smart. too rarely noted points and i appreciate. it causes extremism and it's really about power. that's exactly right. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: we are out of time tonight. we are back at 8:00 p.m. tomorrow is always the show that

is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink.me gh we have great news for you. up next time you are, our friend sean hannity takes over. >> sean: thank you, great show. welcome to speech when he won. with five days until the election, joe biden is painting scary, dark picture of the united states of america. hold up in his basement bunker for month after month after month like a shot in. joe seems to think the country is hopeless and in shambles andi according to joe cowering in fear is going to be our new normal. the coronavirus is spiraling back out of control with no end in sight.s on one rare occasion outside the bunker joe predicted the dark winter for love dread and misery. now, believe it or not, that is joe biden's final pitch to you, the voters. like always, he happens to be dead wrong. look at the news today on the economy. third-quarter gdp report is out. america, a v-shaped recovery, is now a reality.