tv Cavuto Live FOX News October 31, 2020 7:00am-9:00am PDT
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immediate audit. pete: that mail-in ballot backup , huge problem we'll have more developments on that as well. tomorrow morning you won't see our three faces you'll see brian, steve, and ainsley, they're bringing the team in from 6:00-10:00 we'll be on the road look forward to seeing you have a great day. president trump: when your devotion we are going to keep on working, we are going to keep on fighting and we are going to keep on winning, winning, and winning. >> [applause] >> i'll work as hard for those who don't support me as those who do. and my administration there will be no red states or blue states it's the united states of america. neil: well that's the intense campaigning begin. welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto, and this is cavuto live and for the next two hours, we're going to be chris-crossing the country as both candidates r
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ev up the ante here and the octane, for the president of the united states and the guy who wants to be president of the united states, and the respected runningmate, it is no less than a campaign blitz that has the president alone talking 14 rallies in seven states, and the former vice president, a chance to campaign with his old boss, barack obama in michigan today. let's get the latest what's at stake and who is placing their stakes, kristin fisher now in newtown, pennsylvania increasingly the battleground state in the country. hey, kristin. reporter: hey, neil, well one of the few things president trump and joe biden can agree on is the importance of pennsylvania in this race, as you said, both candidates really going all-out here in the final three days before election day. you've got joe biden he's going to be here tomorrow and on monday, president trump is also going to be back here on monday, but he has four stops in
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pennsylvania today. this is the first one and we're at a farm about 45 minutes away from philadelphia, so there's a good chance that president trump is going to bring up the looting that has taken place in that city over the last few days. he'll also likely bring up fracking and there's also a good chance he'll talk about what he just tweeted about and that's that daring seal team six raid, an american hostage rescued in west africa. so a lot of things that president trump may talk about here today but last night, he spent a lot of time talking about something else at a rally in minnesota. he was very unhappy with the state's democratic leadership for keeping thousands of his supporters out of an event, the democratic leaders wanted to keep his supporters, many of them out, due to social distancing guidelines. the coronavirus really running rampant in that state in the closing days before election day and president trump, listen here. you can hear, he was not happy about it. president trump: your far left
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democrat attorney general keith ellison. >> [boo] president trump: and your democrat governor tried to shut down our rally, silence the people of minnesota, and take away your freedom and your rights. >> [boo] president trump: they thought he would cancel, words they are very familiar with, cancel, cancel culture, but i said no way. reporter: now, here in pennsylvania right now, most polls give joe biden the edge. in fact the real clear politics average has him up by about four points but yesterday, president trump said that he feels fantastic about pennsylvania. he's really fighting for every last vote and boy, that sure serves him well four years ago because remember, neil, he won this state by the slimmest of margins about 44,000 votes and he's hoping he's going to be able to do that again on tuesday neil? neil: yeah, those 20 electoral
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votes are crucial, and many say more crucial for him than joe biden that depends on your perspective on this peter doocy with the biden camp flint, michigan of course will have a big assist on the part of his former boss i guess, right? >> yes, neil and you can see some of the cars behind us lining up to be swept into see joe biden and barack obama at a drive-in rally here in flint, and some of the quiet, or not so quiet anxieties the democrats have had lately about possibly repeating the mistakes that hillary clinton made in 2016, like not visiting wisconsin enough, are now out in the open because joe biden is talking about them. >> i came up here campaigning for hillary, and for a whole lot of reasons, not all which are her fault, ended up not taking it seriously. we thought it was different. i've been here a lot. reporter: this is the second to last date biden will visit this cycle. it's all pennsylvania on sunday
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and monday after today's stops in flint and detroit for the first time in-person with barack obama, the democratic nominee is saying he got in this race to restore decency to the oval office, but last night, in minnesota, when he heard some trump supporters making noise outside of his drive-in event there, he called them ugly. >> this isn't a political statement like those ugly over there beeping their horns. this is a patriotic duty for god 's sake. reporter: and remember, today's headliner, barack obama, did not play in the primaries. he waited until joe biden had the nomination locked up before he endorsed and the first thing that joe biden was asked as a candidate more than a year ago, 18 months ago or so was when i got him at the train station in wilmington and asked if he is really the best choice in this crowded feel why didn't barack obama endorse him already and he said at the time that he asked him not to, neil?
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neil: yeah, i remember that. peter doocy, thank you very very much again a big event with the former vice president and former president together, we'll see exactly how much translates in the popularity of barack obama to joe biden, but they do have busy campaign swings both are planning right now, in fact both tickets are going to be blitzing, no fewer than a dozen states over the next 72 hours. let's go to lee carter gop polls ter, mark penn former clinton advisor, and their thoughts on this strategy. lee, before the president, everything seems to come down to pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania. i usually get a little nervous when everyone is sort of, you know, globs around that consensus but what about you? >> look, i think that pennsylvania is the most important state at play right now. if the president doesn't win pennsylvania, there's almost no path that he can win, but i'm fascinated at watching the numbers. the president was doing fairly well hanging in there, obviously biden has been ahead the whole
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time, until he got covid. there was a spread that started looking like biden was really increasing his lead over the last two weeks, we've seen that increase. now we're down to three and a half points just one week ago right before the debate. biden was ahead over five points , and so you're seeing gaps close in the states that matter most, the same thing happening in florida, you see it happening in michigan, you see it in north carolina and arizona. the only place where the lead biden's lead is getting better is in wisconsin, so i think really, the state to watch, pennsylvania, florida, michigan. if those states are to turn for trump, i think that he's going to win. neil: you know, mark penn, it seemed like joe biden was taking a swipe at hillary that, you know, she might have let her guard down in some of these battleground states. he has not and will not, so he's not taking any of them for granted but what is your thinking on how he is treating these states versus hillary clinton four years ago and to avoid a repeat?
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>> well, i think four years ago , the clinton campaign thought the blue wall was inpene trable, and therefore they really didn't campaign at all. i think obviously, the cat was out of the bag in terms of the trump strategy, so i think they're fighting heavily and i wouldn't say that he's put an all-out effort in terms of person-to-person campaigning. obviously, biden is preferring to rely on ads as much as visits if not moreso in pushing this campaign. neil: lee carter, michael moore said that the trump vote is always undercounted, understated and i'm wondering, given the closeness in some of these battleground states some are within three, four points some of them just seem to be outliers this one that has him trailing joe biden by double-digits in wisconsin, it doesn't seem conceivable to me, but you guys are the experts i'll defer to
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you, but this notion that it is that close in some of these other state, it's actually how much more in line to donald trump, that it's not reflecting all the quiet trump voters out there, in these states. what do you say? >> i think the polls, for a couple reasons, under value trump support. i think there is the silent trump voter. i think that is a real thing. i think undecided voters many of them do know what they want to do but they're looking for a reason not to do it. in many cases this breaks for trump so if you look at pennsylvania you've got an undecided voter count of at least 6% probably up to 10%. if those votes go for donald trump, that's the ballgame and i think you see that across-the-board and every one of the swing states you see between 5% and 7% of undecided voters. on top of that there's what i call the unexcited voter. the unexcited voter, joe biden has only one-third of voters say
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i'm voting for joe biden. most people are voting against donald trump, many of whom are looking for some reason to get excited about joe biden and they haven't seen that and you look at some other pollings about how people feel about the economy, 54% of americans feel better off today than they did four years ago despite a very very difficult time with the pandemic and so when you look at those numbers and then you look at the weighting of these polls which are often done to census which means a third republican, a third independent and a third democrat and that's not the way these states break out a lot of that could really favor trump just einto if to put him over the edge. the other thing i really want to look at is voter enthusiasm. the voter enthusiasm for donald trump is very strong. the voter enthusiasm for joe biden is very enthusiastic against donald trump, and that's really hard to measure what's going to happen come election day so i think a lot of the poll s are underweighting what's going to happen for donald trump. neil: do you buy that? i mean, when i look at the vote whether you're really going to
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be be for donald trump or against him, rather than being for joe biden, a vote is a vote, right? and i'm just wondering, mark, whether we don't see that, that passions run deep for both candidates even if it means against the other candidate but those votes still count as much as the passionate in favor of let's say donald trump, right? >> well, as you know, imagine the 96 re-election campaign of bill clinton and we went after the swing voters, relentlessly trying to convince those voters in the middle. donald trump here reinforces base. he has an amazing enthusiasm among his base, but his base is somewhere between 40 and 45% of the country, and particularly with the third party candidates getting a small vote. he needed to reach up and his problem with pennsylvania is not the rural areas. we've got enormous support. it's not fracking, where
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actually he's turned public opinion, i think even nationally in favor and it's the suburbs. it's the suburban swing voters that his campaign has not reached out aggressively enough and he's going to win or lose on how they vote not the rural areas, that struggled supporting him last time are still with him neil: all right, we shall see guys i want to thank you both very very much in the meantime, i do want to let you know, not only we're live right now which we are every saturday we'll be live tomorrow, your world will be live tomorrow , 4:00 p.m. eastern time among our guests we'll have mick mulvaney, the former chief of staff, former budget director for donald trump, joe lieberman, and an aid to barack obama, remember they called him barack obama's body man, what he thinks of the former president campaign ing on biden's behalf and whether that translates into votes for biden, and then bill johnson the former heinz ceo, what the markets and the economy and what some companies are
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saying that you might not be hearing, they're all tomorrow, live, on "your world" 4:00 p.m. eastern time. then, there's the issue of the senate. could it flip? that is not going to happen, the senator from iowa, charles grassley, the senate judiciary committee member why he's convinced all of this talk of a blue wave stops at the senate door, after this.
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>> i've said repeatedly for six months it's a 50/50 proposition and i've got a lot of people up, 23 republicans only 12 democrats with dog fights all over the country. neil: all right, mitch mcconnell is talking about a dog fight even he's experiencing in his home state of kentucky right now , polls are tight there although they've loosened up a little bit. you're looking live at newtown, pennsylvania the president is going to make four stops in the keystone state today. he is devoted an incredible
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amount of time, energy, effort in campaigning in this state that he shocked the world winning four years ago. he hopes for repeat performance right now. early indications are that polls are tightening there, but you never know, with all of this , as to what happens not only in that state but in the nation and the national vote, and the future of the united states senate. chuck grassley joins us right now the senate judiciary committee member, republican from the beautiful state of iowa senator very good to have you with us this morning. your take on what mitch mcconnell was saying a 50/50 sort of a crap shoot on republicans maintaining control of the senate. what do you think of that? >> well, i think he's right but i sure have seen the improved chances of winning in iowa, joanie ernst, republicans have a lot of energy on the ground here in iowa. i did six events with joanie ernst yesterday and i'm about to go to another one just as i'm done with this interview.
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we have president trump coming to dubuque tomorrow for a big rally. i think that i have seen really, the same energy albeit unpredictable, but it seems to be very similar to what we saw in 2016. neil: you know, senator we've seen these fights where the president says it's really testing but it's nothing more than that, that we're rounding the bend but in a lot of these states including iowa, ohio, wisconsin and some of the others those spikes are coming at the worst of times for the president maybe even for vulnerable republicans and your push to see that the senate stays republican. are you worried about that, the timing of it all? >> well it's a top priority for a lot of people but don't forget, the economy, the top priority for 56% of the people,
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approving of what president trump has done in that area and i think when it comes to fighting the pandemic from closing down china way back in january to setting up the warp speed process to get vaccines up and running, what he's done to get more ventilators out to not only the united states but around the world and he and and the ppe stuff and helping small business when the economy shut down with the paycheck protection program, i think he's shown a lot of ambition to help fight the virus and you know how it's expanding around the world i would hope people be realistic to know that this is something that we're in a fight until we get a vaccine to get it under control, not only in the united states but around the world.
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neil: do you worry, when mitch mcconnell says things like, you know, any sort of stimulus, is more likely a 2021 development. do you think that's true, that if there is to be stimulus, it's a 2021 not a some time this year event? >> well of course senator mcconnell runs the united states senate and i think he'll be running it with a majority after january 1, but in the meantime, if i think trump is going to be re-elected and if he's re-elected i think we'd rather get this stuff out of the way before the new congress takes over, and but mcconnell makes that decision, but i be an advocate for doing it in november or december. neil: senator, joe biden indirectly took a swipe at you,
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by talking about the president's inability to reconcile the house and the senate on this , that it wasn't a nancy pelosi problem, it was originally it was a donald trump problem and a failure to get the house and the senate together on this. this is what he said exactly and i want you to react to it, joe biden earlier this week. >> i bet even senator grassley would have to acknowledge that i don't ever remember any president in a crisis where there's a disagreement in the house and the senate between democrats and republicans, didn't even try to bring them together to deal with this. neil: what do you think of that? >> well, he and i got along all right when he was a member of the senate, and we still be getting along all right if he hadn't sold out to the senator sanders and the progress evers and the aocs and all of those , but he can express what he wants to, but don't forget that
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democrats repeatedly blocked our efforts on the floor, that we couldn't even get seven democrat s to go along with, to bring up a bill, that maybe they didn't like, but a bill that if they let us get it up for discussion, they could amend it and by amending it they could get all of their priorities up, but they didn't even want to discuss it. the last week of july, the first week of september, and twice during october, they stopped us from getting a stimulus bill, so biden better talk to his own people. neil: all right senator grassley thank you very very much as we get ready ready to see this live event the president is get read for the first of four in pennsylvania also updating you it was a horrible week for the markets why that could be bad news for donald trump. who is usaa made for? it's made for this guy a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it.
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neil: all right looking live right now in newtown, pennsylvania the president will be there a little later today, the first of four stops in the keystone state of course air force one at joint base andrews he hopes that this campaigning that's going to pick up considerable steam with at least 14 rallies in seven states in three days will tighten these polls, but along the way comes some disturbing market news that some people sort of claim to predict the election outcome. doesn't always work but when the market is down, the week before the election, 26 out of 28 times it means that the party in power in the white house lose s the white house. there are a couple of distinct differences here and a couple of other numbers people follow like how the market does in the roughly july 31 to october 31 period if it is down during that period, it will be down for the chance the party in the white house to maintain the
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white house. doesn't always work that way, 1980 it didn't work that way. the fact of the matter is, there are exceptions but it's something that people cling to, i wonder if my guest does as well, dan geltrube, aaron gib bs gibbs wealth management, we just finished as i was saying a tough week for the market a lot based on the spike in covid-19 cases, concern that technology stocks may be overramping a little bit but it was down and it was a down month and if you're donald trump you worry about that. >> yes, and neil, we talked about this over a year ago, when you model whose going to win the presidency let's say two-thirds of the factors are really about your pocketbook. how secure you feel financially. part of it's the market, part of it's unemployment, and so if people are concerned about their financial well being and as we seen with just a really down day
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in the market, people feel less wealthy and unemployment is going up those are definitely negatives and definitely concerns for the trump campaign. neil: dan, does any of this reflect the fear, and i say the fear i'm not trying to politicize it of a biden presidency that he looks like he has a good shot at winning this thing, a lot of people already know in the market he's going to raise taxes, tighten regulations, the kind of stuff they don't like to hear, and maybe up until the past week or two weeks, they didn't think it could materialize, but now, maybe with the polls being what they are, the spike in cases, they fear it will. what do you think? >> the market could absolutely, neil, be signaling that a biden presidency is well within reach and why do i say that? well, joe biden has talked about raising capital gain so i think what you have right now is you have investors that are selling off in contemplation of higher capital gains next year, let's
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take those gains this year while the rates are potentially lower, and neil, putting on my cpa hat here, i always believe that people move with the tax code, so the promise of higher taxes along with more regulations on wall street is going to move investors and i don't think it's a positive sign for donald trump what the market is signaling here. neil: you know, erin, the economy is signaling other things we just got a printout of the third quarter gdp which was a record up 33.1% and i know people quickly seize on the fact that just the quarter before it was a record tunnel down more than 31%, so at best it's a wash , but if you think where we ended the year and where we are now that we're only down about 3 % to 4% from those pre-pandemic year-end levels. that's remarkable in and of itself, the steady improvement in jobless claims, it's a
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promising development as well, the pickup in retail sales, consumer sentiment, amazon hired 100,000 workers for the holiday. these guys must be seeing a reason to do that. i'm just wondering if it gets lost in this argument with the spike in cases and all of the other stuff. what do you think? >> well, i think part of it is you have to look at what happens in the third quarter is really when all of the economies are reopening before we have these spikes in the cases and so the real concern is are these going to be able to continue the same pace that they were in the third quarter if we have increased lockdowns in the fourth quarter and even into the first quarter of next year as we hit the winter, so i think yes, we did well, but that's when things were the most open and that's also when we have the most spikes and you see this replicated in europe as well as in the u.s. , so it's unlikely that we're going to be able to maintain that type of growth and that rebound because remember there was pent-up demand and pent-up desire to go
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out and go out to eat in the third quarter that we see that coming back and making up for what we had in the second quarter so i think the fourth quarter is really going to show how we're going to manage this virus until a vaccine is widely distributed and that might be a little disappointing and that's why we're seeing the market react negatively when companies miss even slightly and if they beat earnings and revenue and margins are going down, they get hit. neil: especially when those companies don't give it much guidance, right, dan that's the fear that a lot of the numbers i believe seven out of 10 are better than people thought they be but the lack of guidance these companies are getting adds to the uncertainty doesn't it? >> yeah, i think everything that's happening, neil, right now, is all being driven by uncertainty. the market can absorb bad news. doesn't mean it won't be impacted but it's uncertainty that really drives the volatility and when you look at the big factors that are out
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there right now, covid-19, where is this going? when will there be a vaccine? will there be more lockdowns? are we going to be able to learn to live with this? the outcome of the election. look, neil we may not know who the president is for months, and when we do, half the country may be very angry about it. so there's uncertainty there, and then of course, how about the stimulus because wall street is banking on there's going to be stimulus, especially if there's a -- neil: and we don't know where that stands. quite right, guys thank you sorry to jump on you there but there's a break fast-approaching but that is a good point that dan mentions the lack of stimulus or that it could be delayed if not outright denied. is wall street giving up on watching? we're on it as we keep an eye on the campaigns and their busy travels today, a rally getting ready in newtown, pennsylvania the first of four stops in the keystone state for the president, after this.
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neil: you know, it's not just pennsylvania. wisconsin will be a focus of the major campaigns and it's showing that joe biden has actually widened his lead in wisconsin, spike in cases there, as many wisconsin voters presumably concerned about the president where they rounded the bend or turning the corner and it could be coming back to bite him. that is something that joe biden has said about the president'
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constant founding in pennsylvania where a similar spike in cases might be hurting the president's cause, more on that a little later and now to mike tobin in kenosha, wisconsin with more on how that battle is going. mike? >> actually, madison, wisconsin neil and the barnstorming if you've noticed includes multiple stops in the badger state. biden was here yesterday, trump was here yesterday as well. the president will make a stop in kenosha with the final day of campaigning. wisconsin proved unpredict all in 2016 as trump squeeked out a win and both sides are showing they want it in 2020. president trump: i love green bay. >> [applause] president trump: but i love kenosha too, because we did a great job there. we showed them something, right? we showed them how to stop them. >> we are an essential state, and this is sort of so odd politically, because we're an it sy bitsy state we're a lousy 10 electoral college votes but when you've got the possibility of putting together a winning coalition,
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wisconsin suddenly jumps out as being very important because we're really one of the few states that can flip one direction or the other. >> republican volunteers in wisconsin have knocked on 2 million doors and made 10 million phone calls with coronavirus concerns democrats have put a lot of emphasis on electronic outreach. political action committees have done some door knocking for the democrats as biden and the democrats are demonstrating they don't want to lose wisconsin again. >> the power to vote, you can change the course of the country and quite frankly, right now, the course of the world because it's leaderless now and we're going to start right here in wisconsin. >> now trump's win was a little less than 1% as the clinton campaign largely ignored the badger state in the general election. biden goes into the final days here with a lead in the polls but it's pretty much the same lead that clinton had back in 2016. neil? neil: we do know what happened
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then, thank you, mike tobin in madison, wisconsin i apologize for that. want to go to brigadier general robin blader with the wisconsin national guard and i do so because the governor of wisconsin has called on the national guard to assist in the election not preparing for violence i don't want you to get the wrong idea just to help out with voting precincts and the like and their shortage of workers or concern there. general, very good to have you. what exactly would the guards role be here on election day then or maybe even the days up to it? >> hey, good morning and thank you for having me on this morning and giving me an opportunity to share with your viewers the role that the wisconsin national guard has played in our previous elections and in next week's presidential election. so, we had previously served in three elections, the first election was in april of this year, where we activated 2,400 of our service members to serve in our primary election and 71 of our 72 counties.
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we also on may 12 had approximately 160 members that were mobilized to serve in our seventh congressional district and on august 11, we had approximately 700 wing members that served as workers as well, and we anticipate for november 3 's election that we will have approximately 400 service members be mobilized to assist in the presidential elections and exact member of those poll workers still remains fluid and will remain fluid until election day as we continue to work with the clerks across the state to assist with poll worker shortages, and we've also provided support of the upcoming elections logistical support as well as we worked with state partners across our state as well as the civil air patrol to procure and distribute necessary supplies such as hand sanitizer, sanitizer wipes, and again, meet with the requests for poll worker shortage needs,
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so we served as a traditional poll worker, a capacity, we've received training from our wisconsin elections commission who put together a virtual training package for our service members to complete, and our service members will be serving in state active duty wearing civilian clothes and they basically are going to be neighboring helping neighbors as they will be serving in the communities in which they reside and again, they are serving in state active duty. our state statue does allow state employees to work as poll workers and will call the state active duty, we are serving as state employees in the national guard. neil: general, i'm curious and just to try to logistically handle all of that, but there always are fears expressed now, actually by both parties that maybe given the possibility of an unsettled election is certainly not one settled on election night there could be violence and could be disturbances. how do you work with your men
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and women to deal with that possibility? i know the wisconsin governor is not requested anything on that front but it's a worry for a lot of folks. is it a worry for you? >> so we have not been called upon to serve in that capacity and those service members that have been called to state active duty to serve as poll workers would not work in that capacity as all, so in the event there is any civil disturbance that would occur that be handled at the polling site by the poll workers clerks that be in charge of handling any civil unrest and they would go through the normal channels of requesting support from local law enforcement that would run its way through and it is certainly possible that civil unrest would occur that could involve as we've seen over this past year a request for the call -up of the national guard to support we've been involved in actually three civil unrests in this state this year alone, one in the spring, during
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the summer and then just recently we were involved with civil unrest this fall as well, so it certainly is a possibility and we are certainly always ready and prepared to assist and support in any capacity in which we can and again that request for assistance has not been made and it would have to go through the proper channels before we be called to assist law enforcement. neil: all right, general to your point i hope it isn't necessary, but thank you for all your hard work and your men and women going non-stop to make sure this is certainly a safe, accurate election and that people want to vote can vote. brigadier general robyn blader of the wisconsin national guard. taking a quick look in pennsylvania they're getting ready to hear from the president of the united states in newtown, pennsylvania first of four stops , joe biden has already commented on the president's focus on pennsylvania saying that the president's refusal to cake covid-19 seriously or be
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neil: all right we are learning more of this overnight daring seal team six rescue of an american hostages in nigeria. lucas tomlinson has many more details. reporter: good morning, neil in the pre-dawn hours members of the navy seal elite team six conducting a daring hostage rescue in west africa describing it as "u.s. forces conducted a rescue operation during the early hours of 31 october in northern nigeria to recover an american citizen held hostage by a group of armed men.
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this american citizen is safe and is now in the care of the u.s. department of state. no u.s. military personnel were injured during the operation. we appreciate the support of our international partners conduct ing this operation. the united states will continue to protect our people and our interests anywhere in the world. " neil the american host age 27- year-old film walton had been taken hostage by an armed gunman earlier this week and i'm told the mission took on extra urgency after concerns that walt on be traded or sold to other terrorists in neighboring nigeria where the rescue took place. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany spoke earlier today about the decision to pull the trigger. >> they are very tough ones to make because you're right it has to be conducted just perfectly but the president always puts the american interest first and it takes a lot of planning, a lot of keeping things quiet until that moment when you get the go-ahead and i was talk together some of our soldiers and they said to me, we pray to get the green light. reporter: once again, no americans were hurt, or injured in this hostage rescue
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operation, i'm told the gunman were surprised when the seals showed up and a number were killed, neil. neil: all right, lucas, thank you very very much, lucas tomlinson following those developments we'll be hear ing more from the president reacting to these developments as well, he could explain how he's getting out of air force one a little later at last night 's rally waiting for the details but we'll keep you posted meantime sad news to pass along you moo it have heard , but we've heard that shawn connery has passed away, arguably considered the best james bond ever. there was a time in the 1960s from russia with love to gold figure that he was the highest- paid actor in the world. he left the franchise early in his career, returning briefly for one more, but he said at the time, i can't be james bond forever, or maybe he said it this way. i can't be james bond forever. we will miss him, 90 years young , and gone.
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just like you watch over your best friend. another life-changing technology from abbott, so you don't wait for life. you live it. neil: all right, looking live right now to the left of your screen, newtown, pennsylvania the president is going to be very there very shortly the first of four stops in the keystone state and of course there they're not controlling the crowd the president briefly ran into that in michigan of course and made it very clear it wasn't happy about it and he'll be leaving again on the busy tour that includes these huge crowds sometimes going to the thousands right now, and some of them line up and can days in advance, so we're following that and also the criticism the president gets for holding such rallies, that are not to hear joe biden's covid-19-safe. is that really a risk? we've had very few cases of spikes being reported, because
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of these rallies but be that as it may, the charges go back and forth, dr. denny joins us right now from the nyu school of medicine. doctor, is it a risk if you're outdoors and the president is doing these events, is it a risk , especially for those let's say who choose not to wear a mask? >> well from all the information we have so far, there is a risk. masks seem to be protective, any kind of close contact if you're not physically distancing from someone, you seem to be at risk to catch covid. now i am surprised, because there haven't been as many spike s around the rallies same thing with the protests that we saw earlier this spring, so there may be things that are changing about the virus as we go on. there are some studies that show that maybe the virus is mutating or evolving to a less aggressive or dangerous form so it's still spreading faster than rather than killing the host which would defeat the purpose if it kills you then
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it's going to die also it may be becoming a little less aggressive so we don't know yet, but the situation is always evolving and if we look at all the information that we've had from the past, it is much safer to wear a mask and kind of keep your distance from others. neil: you know, doctor, with all of this with the back drop of 97,000-plus new cases reported in the latest daily monitoring we're over 9 million cases in the u.s. right now and the president argues it's all this testing that we do far more than any other country on earth, yet we are seeing examples from lots of countries on earth that they're experiencing spikes as well, even with their increases in testing and even in places like germany and italy and france and portugal, where they were doing all the things that smart doctors like yourself say they should be doing, and still the spikes. what's going on? >> exactly, so i wish we had a little bit more information about how these cases were being diagnosed and if we look in general, the fact that people are moving indoors probably is leading to an increase in cases
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because there's not as much fresh air, not as much ventilation. people are getting closely- packed. second thing is we're opening up more, so, you know there's more contact between people and the third thing is testing that could be fair. as people do more testing, it's more available as it's available in schools and people are doing routine testing of people who are asymptomatic we might see an increase in cases j it's just from that alone and in terms of data what i wish we had was a little more information about how these cases are being diagnosed so it's very different if somebody let's say in the spring was deathly ill going into the hospital and then getting diagnosed with covid versus now, you know, you have people even my patients tell me that they're working and every week they get tested so some of those things may be asymptomatic and it kind of skews the picture a little, plus we'd want to know in terms of hospitalizations are people getting hospitalized overnight or for a significant period because they need to be
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>> all right. let the frenetic campaigning begin. of course, it's been going on for a while the president of the united states, his motorcade arrived at joint base andrews, part of a four-stop in the keystone state of pennsylvania. crowds are lining up at all locales including in newtown, pennsylvania. no limit to how many can get to the event. despite criticisms of the crowds we've seen no associated spikes in virus cases reported as a result. the president uses these backdrops to indicate not only
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his preference for in-person campaigning in contrast to joe biden camp who does everything covid safe. joining us from butler, pennsylvania, grady. >> neil, butler county is a largely republican county in pennsylvania. president trump will be holding one of those rallies here this evening and he hopes to solidify the vote that he got in 2016 from republicans here, but he also hopes to win over maybe some undecided voters because, as you know, he won by less than 1% over hillary clinton in 2016 so every vote counts here. i want to show his different stops across the state and four rallies in total. he will be heading from east to west across pennsylvania. we have been talking to voters across the state over the past several days and every one of them we talk to say the pandemic is at the top of their mind. the democratic voters, they tell us that they think joe biden will do a better job containing the virus, getting it under control, but those who
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support trump worry that biden would shut down the economy again and that would be bad for business and small businesses especially on main streets like this one in butler, pennsylvania. in terms of the early vote, two million registered voters have already turned in their ballots, that's of 9 million registered voters in pennsylvania. the number of registered democrats who have returned their mail-in ballots about three times more than the number of registered republicans. what the president is counting on here in pennsylvania voters that support him will do what he's asked, show up to the polls on election day. we've talked to several republican voters not only in butler county, but harrisburg, central area, just about every one said they didn't want to vote by mail, they wanted to do that on election day which will bode well for the president. neil.
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neil: as we said he will arrive from joint base andrews and sometimes he stops to talk to reporters on the way and if he does we'll take you to that. in the meantime, phil keating in florida, another crucial 29 electoral votes up for grabs. it will be a focus of all the campaigns in the last few days of the campaign and ng kamala harris today, right, phil? >> that's right, tomorrow is the last day for early voting in florida. polls close at 7 p.m. and i tell you what, we've finally made it to the last saturday of early voting, one more day, and three days left to election day, it's been a historic year, not only in florida, but nationwide for early voting and that includes mail-in ballots as well as in-person voting which is happening right now, it's been happening for about four hours now. the line, that's a live look at the line. it's picked up in the past
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hour. probably because the sun, the heat and the humidity are back, and the rains are gone. take a look at how heavy it rained earlier. >> sorry about that, phil. the president now speaking to the press at joint base andrews, let's listen in. >> we had a tremendous event happen and really these are incredible people that do this. but it was a tremendous event and we'll be giving you some details in a very short period of time. it's something that had to get done because they were playing with american citizens. we can't let that happen so we'll be talking to you about that at the appropriate time, but these are great -- these are great people, the best in the world. there's nobody like them. you know a little about it. i think that people have started to hear, but we'll give you the details in a little while, okay? thank you. >> have you thought what you're doing on election night, mr. president? >> yeah, i'll be perhaps between the white house and the hotel because you know, we have a-- i guess they have a limit,
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they've placed limits on the hotel, which is unfortunate. they did that yesterday and in minnesota, the governor, and i think he's paying a very big price for it. we had thousands-- we're going to have over 25,000 people and you saw what went on there, it was ridiculous. and with all the problems that minnesota has with riots and all the things, that i saved minneapolis, they should have called me sooner, but we saved -- i mean, you wouldn't even have a minneapolis right now and i think we're going to win minnesota and i think what the attorney general did and what the governor did in minnesota last night was very sad. thousands and thousands of people were disenfranchised. i mean, they traveled for miles and many miles to get there in some cases. they were staying there, i mean, they slept over, and then the governor makes a political move. i don't think it's going to help him. we want to win minnesota. i think we have a really good chance and i think he frankly gave us a better chance.
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we'll talk to you later. >> thank you. >> all right. now, that was the president, and he's referring at the outset to this american hostage who was rescued in west africa, particularly in northern nigeria by a seal team six unit that got him out and took out most of the people who were holding that soldier hostage. we don't know much more than that. the president's going to detail us a little later today, but we do know that the raid was a success, the hostage is safe, and in good hands. so more updates to come. in the meantime, i want to go back to phil keating who was interrupted by the developments of what is going on in florida. phil. >> absolutely. like i was saying, early voting is underway for the final weekend in the state of florida. the sun's back out. it's hot and humid here in miami, north miami and that's the line right now, which has picked up significantly over the past hourment it had really
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diminished to the scarcity because of heavy rains earlier this mon r morning, but they are all gone now. we talked to some voters, and they tell us, they believe this race truly is consequential. >> i hope it helps to make change and since marginalizing politically, but also the climate in the united states right now is very divided. >> in the continuing climate we're in and feels so consequenti consequential, i feel like being part of this election cycle feels like i contributed something significant. >> and we have now learned that president trump will hold one more pre-election day, florida rally, battle ground florida, of course, late sunday night and somewhere in south florida. kamala harris, the vice-presidential nominee with joe biden is here today as well
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in south florida. she is making campaign stops in three big counties that typically go blue. miami-dade, broward and palm beach counties. for those who still have not returned their mail-in ballots due to election day being three days away, they're encouraged to drop it off at the official ballot box in person in case of slow mail delay. this is one postal facility where mail, allegedly, including ballots, has been sitting for a week and not being delivered. well, that's now spurred the state attorney down here to ask all postal distribution centers for an immediate audit. she has alerted the state elections task force and she wants any distribution center manager if they go through the center and they actually find some mail-in ballots that are filled in. these' having them to physically deliver them asap to the supervisors of elections and you know, ballots getting
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lost in the mail because as we all know, the mail delivery by the post service has slowed down. what used to take three times, sometimes taking five or six, so, the state attorney did also say that the person, the employee who took that video was recently punished with administrative action for whatever he did, basically ill plying this may have been a disgruntled employee. keep in mind, in that room of mail, most of it is just regular mail, but according to the employee, there were some mail-in ballots there. >> thank you, phil keating the latest in florida. and senator rick scott, the florida senator right now, what he makes of this. it's good to have you. how does florida look to you right now for the president? polls seem to indicate it's very, very tight. other republicans think there's a quiet trump vote there that isn't reflected in the polls? what do you think?
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>> i think he's actually going to do better than in 2016. first off, there's no energy for joe biden here, you don't see signs, he can't get people to show up to rallies, there's just no energy. by the way if you look at the issues, president trump wins for floridians. we care about the economy. joe biden 47 years and never did anything on the economy. we have a lot of people in our state left socialism. they've left cuba, left nicaragua, they are not going for what they've done. and democrats want to defund the police and joe biden is talking about the biggest tax increase on in the history in the country. in florida we like low taxes, a lot of people come here for lower taxes. if you go through, including holding the regime responsible and i think that president trump is going to do better
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than in 2016. neil: do you think it's part of the problem, tip of the hat for you, a governor and you enticed people from high tax states to come to florida, that what's happened in the process is the mix of voters in florida has changed. more blue state type voters who have entered a state that at best might have been pink. i don't know how you want to describe it and that is changing the complexion of, you know, voter demographics not only in states like florida, but texas where the complexion of the state has changed. do you worry that all of that tax cutting and everything else, and the draw of the sunshine state has now tipped it closer to democrats? >> no. i mean, i was able to win all of my statewide races in 10, 14, and they know the consequences and if you want to keep lower taxes you're surely not going to elect joe biden. i think what's happened if you look at the voter turnout both in 2018 and now, it's big
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because people see the consequences-- if you want to vote for somebody who likes big taxes joe is your man. if you want someone with the castro regime and joe is your man and that's not-- >> senator, you're behind a group of a political committee i believe trying to get a six-figure ad buy in the last couple of days to have some impact. where are you targeting? where is that group targeting the advertising for that? >> neil, it's focused on getting out the vote and making sure everybody knows the consequences. if you're going to vote for joe biden, you have to understand you're going to lose your private health care insurance, vote for joe biden, the democrats defund the police. go through the issues. joe biden is considering packing the court impacting your religious freedoms and second amendment rights. my goal was to get that up there. running from friday to tuesday,
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make sure that we can get the vote out so president trump has a big win here. neil: all right. well, we'll watch it very, very closely. senator rick scott, thank you very, very much. with all of that, fair and balanced now. i want to go to dan kildee, congress deputy whip, one of the players in the event that will feature barack obama with joe biden. congressman, good to have you. >> thanks, neil. neil: how would you describe michigan? a state that the president won by the thinnest of margins, a win was a win and he was off to making history in battle ground states. how does it look now? >> well, i think this is a state that is going to go either way. i do feel like vice-president biden is in a better position than hillary clinton was four years ago, but neil, i'll be honest with you, i take no comfort in some of the recent
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polling. it seems to show a biden lead. you know, i don't think there's any way for us to know how michigan's going to turn out and that's why we've been just so focused on making sure people cast their ballots. whoever they're for, we want to make sure that this is an outcome that people can accept because so many michiganders participated, so, that's our focus right now. neil: now, you know, barack obama campaigned aggressively for hillary clinton and it didn't do her much good in the end. very, very hard for barack obama to translate his own success for candidates for whom he campaigns, and i'm wondering whether the same could happen here. are you worried that the enthusiasm just isn't there for joe biden, the enthusiasm among democrats to kick donald trump out of the white house, i get that, i see that, but not pro joe biden? nothing like the crowds that gather for the president. what do you think of that? >> well, we're not doing big
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rallies because we made a decision, you know, back in march and april because of covid we just weren't going to do them. so, but i-- neil, i think the way to measure enthusiasm is the most important measure and that's whether people are showing up to cast their ballots. in michigan, 2.6 million people already vote. that's more than half the number, significantly more than half the number that voted in the 2016 election. so, i think the enthusiasm is there. certainly based on the calls and texts that i've been getting about this event that we're doing this afternoon with president obama and vice-president biden as some indication, but you put your finger on one of the problems a lot of us are having. we don't have the typical manifestation that show sort of validate what the polling says because we're not doing rallies. we're doing these car rallies which obviously you can only have so many people there, but we want to do that to protect people. neil: do you think they register? i know what you're saying, congressman, in this covid-19 world to be safe about, i get
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that. others say maybe it's looking like there isn't enthusiasm for the vice-president, there isn't enthusiasm for the democratic ticket where when you look at donald trump's crowds, whether you consider them safe or not, there's been no demonstrable pickup of cases as a result of the rallies. having said that, it looks like all the passion is with team trump not with team biden. what do you say? >> i understand how people assume that, again because he's having rallies. i'll say this, the president's supporters are still as enthusiastic as they ever were. i do think though we see a lot of enthusiasm both for vice-president biden and frankly a lot of democrats looking just to move beyond this period of angst and anger that has been so typical the last few years. ultimately it's in the voters' hands and i think the best manifestation of enthusiasm is turnout at the polls and what we've seen with early votings,
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the democrats are really showing up. neil: real quickly, i know you have to go, but i wanted -- there was a report this week that already from a lot of biden confidantes were trying to put together a cabinet. and the oval office and carpet, all that, but they had to get names together and among those mentioned for treasury secretary was elizabeth warren. what do you think of that. >> we have a lot of talent in the democratic party and i don't know what senator warren's interests are she has a strong background in finance. i don't have a sense who vice-president biden would collect and those conversations are premature. we have a lot of work to do before tuesday and i think we should be focusing on that. neil: i know you've been campaigning a lot. i thought maybe i'd get you at a tired weak moment which i failed at doing. laug
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laugh (laughter) . >> good to see you. >> dan kildee, the chief whip. and we got news in the third quarter, the economy zoomed ahead 33 plus percent, it fell in the second quarter, nevertheless, the comeback appears to be real. steve moore, what do you make first off of the talk of elizabeth warren as a treasury secretary in a biden administration? >> well, i think it's an indication of just how left wing a biden administration would be. elizabeth warren is very hostile to business interests in america. i think she would be terrible for the stock market, but i think a more important point, neil, what you just said. my goodness, you and i have been in this business a long time following these economic statistics. can you think after stronger closing statement for donald trump than those numbers that came out on thursday? you know, 33% growth.
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most people don't follow this stuff as closely as you and i do. usually 3, 4, 5% growth is considered a good number and we got this 33% growth. don't forget, also, neil, on thursday morning, you know, real good numbers on the unemployment with another big drop in the number of people on unemployment insurance claims. we've had something like 11.5 million jobs created since june. so, those are-- that's a very strong number. if i were trump i'd say look, we're riding on the back of secretariat here right now. you don't want to change horses. neil: but you know, there are a lot of people-- i guess it depends on their view of the horses because 22.7 billion americans are still claiming some sort of unemployment benefit, as you know, steve. >> that's right. neil: a good many of them, maybe close to a third are exhausting those benefits. they'll run out in a matter of weeks. so for those people, that doesn't sound like rounding the bend. that doesn't sound like an economy on fire. i'm wondering when the
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president pounds that theme in battle ground states, i'm sure that's the president for you now, but does it fall on empty ears? do the people hear that and say just like when he says that we're rounding the bend on covid. we're not. and when everything is hunky-dory on the economy, it's not. >> certainly i'm not saying, and donald trump is not saying everything is hunky-dory with the economy, it's just this is the fastest recovery we've ever seen in this country and by the way much faster than any other european country. you look at projections, neil, that the federal reserve bank made and they said lucky 12, 13% growth and here we are at 33% growth. they said we'd probably still have 15, 16% unemployment rate. we're now down below 8%, of course you're right, there are still a lot of problems in this country, heavy lifting to do to fix the economy. the real question for voters, who do you actually think could
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do a better job getting 10 million jobs back that we still haven't received? nobody expected this kind of boom that we've seen in terms of recovery. it really is pretty spectacular and by the way, look at manufacturing, look at the construction. you cover it every day on your show, neil. look what's happening with the housing market. those are really strong markets right now. neil: you know, the market had a rough week, had a rough month, the second down month. one of the worst weeks before an election we've experienced. normally not good for the party in power. are you worried for the president? >> you mean in terms of the stock market or-- >> yeah. >> well, look, i think the stock markets is weak because of what you just said that we've seen increasing covid cases, but you know, i think that we're seeing better treatments, we're seeing, you know, people who are being hospitalized are actually not getting-- the death rate is falling. so of course, this is two issues i think at the top of mind of voters.
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number one, who can get us through this, you know, terrible economic time and i think, you know, most voters agree it's president trump. there's an if he who is going to deal with this health crisis and we have parallel concerns. i think it was bill clinton said it's the economy stupid. if it's the economy, then i think that trump is going to win in states like michigan and pennsylvania. one last thing, where the recovery has been, neil, it's been in the southern states, in texas, tennessee, it's in florida, it's in states like utah, idaho. neil: all right. steve, we shall see. thank you very much. we are going to go a quick break, but it is the economy. we'll see if it holds up. we'll have more after this. now anyone can own companies in the s&p 500, even if their shares cost more. at $5 a slice, you could own ten companies for $50 instead of paying thousands.
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they're all busy today. you're looking at north carolina. vice-president mike pence will be there at a rally here. so the tickets are going all out the next 72 hours, get out the vote and hopefully get out the vote for themselves. mark meredith with the latest from the rally in north carolina and how that state is looking. hey, mark. >> neil, good morning to you. today is the last chance north carolinians have to cast their ballots earlier unless they're mailing their ballot back via absentee. we've seen a steady stream of voters all morning long. i want to give you an idea where things stand with the latest on voting right now. more than 900,000 absentee ballots sent back in and 3.4 million people take advantage of the vote early program. and of the registered voters, incredible numbers. as i mentioned voting opened until 3:00 today. while we are not going to know the final results until election day if not later than
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that. both parties are confident the numbers are in their favors. >> we feel good about our chances. all the numbers show we're hitting the targets we need to be hitting. high turnout is usually a good sign for democrats in general. at the same time we're not taking anything for granted. >> republicans tell us they feel equally as confident. president trump is going to be holding two rallies before election day in the state and supporters tell us they're focusing on the issue of the pandemic and some of the state's restrictions and how the state is handling the covid response. >> i would say let government step aside and let people live their daily lives and assess the risks as through the other pandemics that we've faced as a state. >> today, vice-president mike pence is going to be holding two rallies in north carolina and also stopping in the carolinas tomorrow as well. this is a state that the
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trump-pence ticket won four years ago by a fairly large margins. looking at the polls, biden has a lead ever so slight. >> mark, thank you for the update. mark meredith. think about it, mark was indicating in north carolina, same in florida and wisconsin and minnesota and pennsylvania. all the records of the early voting and expectation is nearly over 100 million voted before election day itself. now, the traditional argument in the beginning was this disproportionately democrat ballots being returned. that doesn't mean they always vote democratic, but it's a pretty good bet that's the case early on. since, and the president talked about it last night in a number of rallies. trends have been going with more republicans voting early. let's get the fallout on that. and francesca, this is so tough to gauge, but early voting,
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traditional argument, that's a strong sign of democratic passion for joe biden, and that is going to be a heavy climb for republicans to counter if you buy the conventional wisdom they do most of their voting election day. what are you seeing? what are you hearing? >> okay, let's look at two other states that you didn't get to before. michigan, you mentioned how it's tough to gauge, especially there, because we don't know what the party is, the people are requesting and returning in those ballots is not the way they track those things there with party affiliation. so it's hard to see inside of that, who is benefitting more. if you look at a state like florida, that is a state that is looking better for republicans by the day in an early vote. they have been able to get the gap down to a little bit more than 116,000 votes, democrats have that edge, but they have been able to close that gap day by day. but, even then, you bring it down to a level like that, that edge is basically a little bit more than the amount that the president won florida by in the
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last election so they're going to have to have a big turnout on election day, you know this. and the republicans and the president in florida. neil: do we know, francesca, when they count these? not until after election day or on election day. any of them counting now so on election day, we'll have a good read how they're going along with the day-of voting? >> another thing that makes it difficult. there are different court rulings that apply to different states about when votes that have been cast at least by election day or mailed in can be counted. that is absolutely something that we'll be watching as this election comes to a close and in the key states that you mentioned. i also want to mention, i heard you talking about president barack obama, former president barack obama being on the campaign trail. you see the democrats trying to juice enthusiasm in the final days of this election in a state like georgia, where they
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believe that they can have an upset there. the vice-presidential cad kamala harris there as well and that's another one i have my eye on in this election and florida sending former president barack obama to south florida as well. seems to be an acknowledgment they know they've got to get higher numbers there. neil: now, this spending and then focus on states that are traditionally red like georgia, like texas even, it dos bring back what hillary clinton was doing in the days before the 2016 election and faulted for not concentrating on democratic core states and failing them down. are the biden folks playing that same record? is it going to come back to bite them? >> well, notably it's not former vice-president joe biden going to georgia, it's barack obama. and he went to minnesota, joe biden went to minnesota because they're concerned about exactly what you just said, neil. if you don't want to get into-- after the election and say if
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only he'd went to minnesota one more time. or wisconsin, the mantra all over again. that's where he'll be spending his time and barnstorming the state of pennsylvania. neil: all right. thank you very much. then there's arizona. relybly republican? who knows. , knowing we're prepared for tomorrow. wow, do you think you overdid it maybe? overdid what? well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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republican bet, but republicans were hearing that kind of talk four years ago and ended up winning and the 11 electoral votes that went with it. alisa acuna is there days ahead of election day. >> hey there, arizona is doing something, as part of covid-19, maricopa county the second largest district in the country has partnered with giant sports arenas so folks can drop off their ballots in a contactless way. and that's supposed to begin here in about 20, 25 minutes. 2.3 million ballots have already been dropped off by voters in arizona and that's a record. and the processing began 11 days ago. the secretary of state here told me they're doing everything they can to ensure voter safety. >> they are adding additional poll workers to add additional
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curbside auctions. if somebody is sick on election day, they can use that curbside voting. >> both campaigns were in the battle ground state and senator kamala harris did outreach. and rallied thousands of airport there and the vice-president made stops here yesterday. arizona concern doug doocy had to defend his appearance at these events at a news conference where he doctors addressed the increase in covid cases here. he said that the national guard is ready to assist should there be any civil unrest after election day. and neil, take a look at this, the real clear politics average now shows trump leading by a slim margin at .6%. yesterday, neil, we saw the men in a dead heat. this is significant because the president has trailed biden for almost the entirety of this year. so, it's so tight. this is a must-win for the
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president. neil. neil: alicia, thank you very much, alicia acuna in glendale, arizona. i want to go to that state's former governor jan brewer. good to have you. how do you think your state is it looking for republicans? >> well, we are out there working very hard, that the public, the republicans are really enthusiastic and have showed up and we're ready. we've got our game face on. we know it's tighter than what we would like, but we think we're going to deliver it. neil: the fallout and campaigning on behalf of joe biden, has that hurt the president in that state? >> oh, i don't think so. you know, i think sin-- he's a lovely person and close to the bidens, and i think that she's living in america and i don't think that would be a whole lot of impact. and i think that arizona has
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grown. they've been out here and worked it and done things so diligently and so hard and enthusiastically, here in maricopa county, and they've tried to target suburban women and the latinos. and we're going to continue to do that moving on through until tuesday and have sweet victory tuesday night. neil: let me ask you a little about how things are looking for senator martha mcsally. i know that polls are beginning to tight and little bit and she was trailing. but the president seemed to give her short shrift at a rally earlier, limiting her to one minute to speak. i'm wondering why he did that, is there something we're not aware of, her comments in the past not exactly overwhelmingly being efusive about the president. what was going on there? >> i think he was probably travelling with, you know, a congressional delegation and the senators and that they were
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running over time. i think that he wholeheartedly supports marsha mcsally and you're at rallies and we're on time constraints and i know we don't think of that when we see president trump campaign. there were time constraints and she's working hard and she's got marsha blackburn campaigning and she'll be flying across the state the next couple of days and end up in prescott, arizona. neil: and governor, i'm not trying to make a big deal of it, but it seemed a little weird to me watching her, senators and others visiting from out of state were given a lot more time to speak. he cautioned her, you've got one minute and i've never seen him do that. so is there bad blood between the two or what? >> i don't know, neil. i don't think so. i really don't know. of course, i think that her supporters like myself were very disappointed we didn't get to hear her, but under the
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circumstances, i think it was -- he had these people travelling with him on air force one and you know, they came all the way out, they needed time to speak and they were fabulous speakers, but we've got to bring martha home and she's closing in on the ranks. and mark kelly is an unknown product. neil: all right. we'll see. it's a close race. it could be anyone's guess. a few more days to determine it. good seeing you, january brewer, the former governor of the beautiful state of arizona. it's a dry heat, a dry heat. the we have much more coming up joe biden attaching himself to fdr and a legacy he wants to repeat. and his grandson on whether he's making progress after this. that was my business gi, this one's casual. get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks.
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need to heal our nation. folks, i'm running as a proud democrat, but i'll govern as an american president to unite and to heal. neil: all right. the legacy of fdr in warm springs where the former president died in 1945, but is that a bit of a stretch? many republicans have been saying he can't hand hold a candle to franklin roosevelt and insulted the legacy of the roosevelt family. well, we've got a member of the roosevelt family david roosevelt iii, the grandson of the former president. by the way a co-chair of the rules and by laws committee of the democratic national committee. james, good to have you. thanks for taking the time. >> neil, it's good to see you again. neil: same here. one of the things i think that the robls were saying about joe biden's references to your grandfather was that they knew fdr. fdr was a historic figure to
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them and joe biden is no fdr. what do you think? >> well, i'll tell you, this is an election that is unlike any in our lifetimes. it's a lot more like the election in 1933 when my grandfather won overwhelmingly against herbert hoover. herbert hoover was not a bad man, he was not a stupid man. he was somebody who could not rise for the times to deal with the problems of the great depression. this is an election i think very much like that one. neil: now, you could argue that a couple of big differences, here of course, we went into a depression and all of that and we'd come out of the '20's boom and a lot of people did criticize herbert hoover for not doing things enough to aggressively turn things around and your grandfather did. if you're on the left or right he had a lot of success getting
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us out of that. and out of world war ii and tragically passed away before that. this idea that joe biden can u nene the country as fdr did, different times again. i'm just wondering whether that's even possible or whether joe biden is the guy to do that. what do you think? >> well, the speech that you just played part of from-- i think you played just now the part from atlanta. but earlier in the day joe biden spoke at warm springs, georgia, where my grandfather passed awan and where his vacation white house was and where he established the hospital when we had the terrible virus of polio. and first saw what it could do for him and then tried to do that for other polio victims. the speech at warm springs was about healing the country, bringing the country together
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and working together for the benefit of everyone in the country, not being the president of the left or the president of the right, but the president of the whole country. it was a magnificent speech and i think it really set the right tone. it's in contrast with the-- if you've been watching the rallies of president trump all week, which are all about division and attacking and attacking his opponent. the contrast in this election couldn't be greater. neil: you know, many might disagree with that, just as joe biden was talking up this idea of reaching out to all americans, he did throw a couple of zingers toward trump voters, seemed to confound him with the support of former president. and politics it is what it is, i'm wondering now, your grandfather was famous, he'd been dealing with polio and all, and to have rallies that
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mesmerizing. in this covid world, i understand joe biden's reluctance to do that. but it's looking to the american people that he's playing it too safe. that these are the busiest travel days of his campaign and many have sort of said, is he coasting to a victory? is he not really working hard for it? what do you say? >> i think that joe biden has been setting an example for the american people of being very careful about this virus. it's the only way that we're going to get rid of it. even once we get a vax teen, we're still going to have to be careful because it's going to take quite a while to get everybody vaccinated in this country. if you look at his drive-in rallies he's been doing this week, they've had full, full turnout in the space that they're allotted, but most importantly, he's been
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speaking, whether on shows like this or other television and radio outlets, directly to the american people. he also has been very clear about the things he needs, that need to be done. he's been very clear about strengthening the affordable care act rather than what president trump is trying to do a week from tuesday, get the supreme court to throw out the affordable care act. and he's been clearing about strengthening enhancing social security. he had as had a great plan for that. president trump as you know has suspended payments into the social security fund and says that he will do away with them permanently if he's reelecteded. so, the contrast is just tremendous between joe biden
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and the president. neil: to be clear, you're not voting for donald trump. >> i guess you might gather that from what i'm saying. i'm vice chair-- >> it was me taking that leap. >> yeah, right, right, you all the cut right to it, but i'm vice chair for the advisory board of the national committee to preserve of social security and medicare. they've never enforced a candidate for president since founded by my father, and this time enforced joe biden. neil: yes, i've seen that. thanks, james. i'm glad we got things gray out of the way. james roosevelt, joe biden for president. is dr. harold katz.
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upfront and center in newtown, pennsylvania. that's where you'll find our connell mcshane. connell travels the entire country, the whole 50 states. right now for the time being in the keystone state they're getting ready to hear the president. no less than four venues? >> it's the back drop of 14 events the president will hold in the final three days of thinks campaign. he has four in pennsylvania today and you look behind me and you see kind of the normal president podium and monitors set up behind there, is a farmhouse. that's known here as headquarters farm, it's where general george washington is said to have planned the crossing of the delaware during the revolutionary war. so the president is using this as his back drop to make what the campaign is calling the beginning of his closing arguments in pennsylvania. they're characterizing these remarks as just that, remarks, not a rally. it's a smaller crowd, kind of
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an interind-- intimate setting and they're packed closely together and a video that they're clapping for. maybe 300 people much smaller than what would have been a normal trump rally. no social distancing to speak of. these people are right on top of each other, far more people not wearing masks here than wearing them in the state of pennsylvania, which as we all know is a battle ground state won by 44,000 votes by the president last time. bucks county, where we are today was won by hillary clinton by less than 1%. kind of the battle ground county in the battle ground state. since then the local economy in bucks like many areas has taken a hit because of the pandemic. before the rally we got a chance to speak to voters in the area, that's what we heard about, the economy and the virus. here is a sample, take a listen. >> quarantine himself after he had it and was treated
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top-notch, there are so many families that have had not near those advantages and have lost family members. i can't imagine one thing that biden could do that would be that much different than what donald trump did. >> we all got tax cuts and i know they say that's not going to happen, but they're going to take that away. >> the misery index is rising dramatically, and it's scarry times. >> now, the president, a couple of tweets overnight, 1:30 in the morning may have been aimed at this area. one of them he was talking about suburban women they were trending strongly toward his campaign. fox poll showed joe biden up 29 points nationally with that particular demographic, the president tweeted how a biden win would mean the end of fracking in pennsylvania and whether it's this event or the three rallies that follow in this state, we'll hear about energy jobs, something that the
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president is emphasizing. air force one is landing in the state of new jersey, and the short drive over to bucks county, pennsylvania where the president begins a very busy stretch of this campaign. neil: interesting, connell. to the right of the screen for people watching from home, that's vice-president pence and i'm curious, that you and i were covering the race, first inklings from the battle ground states that hillary wasn't doing as well as as many thought she would be, telegraphing the long night that was to come. are republicans sensing the same sort of late surge, the late momentum and that's what they're counting on? >> that's exactly what they're counting on. we were in pennsylvania, the last time around, i spent part of the weekend with president trump at a rally and then the final day of the campaign with hillary clinton in philadelphia, at the concert that she held with bruce springsteen, jon bon jovi and
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that, and you did sense a tightening anecdotally of the race and they're counting on the same now. we've got seen it show up in the data that we're getting and in the polling, but you drive around here even in bucks county and the yard signs are certainly flit split up, and the county had been trending blue in support, biden. so a lot of trump-pence signs, the enthusiasm surrounding this president is still there. the question, will it be enough? and you know, if we have three days left to the campaign and to use a sports analogy, the president plans to leave it all out on the field. 14 events is some kind of a schedule. neil: you're on the same schedule. we're getting word from governor mario cuomo--
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mario cuomo, his son. those in new york state must quarantine at least three days. he's concerned about a spike in cases in new york and people bringing it in from the outside. fox news will continue. i'll be back tomorrow on a special "your world." ♪ >> joe biden will shut down your state's economy, wipe out your factories, ship your jobs to china. we've created a record 11.4 million american jobs. we have a super v, i used to talk about the v. this is no longer a v. this is a super v. >> we had 9 million new cases nationwide. millions of americans are out of work. on the edge. they can't see any light. they don't know where it's going. and donald trump, he's simply given up. we cannot
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