that even partisans can observe the vote >> the law requires even partisans can observe the vote count. if they can prove they were not allowed to observe the law will be violated. how do we. analyze that every american regardless of party should be concerned but let not your heart be troubled. my heart is troubled when the losses even partisans have the right to watch the vote count and partisans are denied the opportunity as a matter of law to observe the vote count. >> a lot of folks telling me how they are treated when they go in. >> a lot of observing. >> a lot of intimidation going on to push people out of the vicinity. we have to start -- >> partisans during vote counting. >> every state legislature matters. we have to select great state

legislators across the country and rectify this entire process. >> already counted votes and didn't allow the observers that are legally allowed to be there. >> up to the lawyers to figure that out, loved your show tonight, ted cruz on fire, love him. i will talk to you tomorrow. one gop leader has been defending donald trump as the election hangs in the balance. ron desantis will tell us why. the angle will speak to two folks who experienced suspicious activity from poll workers in two swing states, their story and moments and unexpectedly strong results for house republicans has the democrats pointing fingers. kevin mccarthy is here on nancy pelosi's diminished standing but first, why we fight is the focus of tonight's angle.

>> we are the united states of america. the country that has developed the most advanced technology in the world. from a laboratory in texas, we can control the mars rover, 140 million miles away to drive around mars but you are telling me we can't count votes in a timely fashion. some of you are wondering if it is worth it for the trump campaign to launch legal battles in states like pennsylvania, michigan, georgia, nevada. court standard and state vote count and democrat ron states always found new batches of votes to swap any republican advantage. what will it achieve? lawsuits just a the inevitable,

isn't it time to move on, lick our wounds every group? that is exactly what the democrats are hoping for, that we move on and have the same process repeats itself every election but that would be a huge disservice not only to trump supporters but to our entire system of government. mail in ballots have been a concern from day one. i raised this issue with mike pence months ago. mail in ballots are a looming disaster. 54 see a scenario where donald trump could actually be ahead in key states on election night but those states couldn't have counted all the mail in ballots. >> the one person one vote right is at the center of our democracy and the president has made it clear that we are not going to stand idly by while you see democrat states, democrat governors use the backdrop of

the coronavirus to send millions of ballots across their statement across the country. the universal male in voting where you see ballots showered across the state, ripe for fraud and we are headed straight to the courts to put a stop to it. >> we heard about friends who receive multiple ballot applications, others receiving ballot applications from multiple states or applications for dead relatives. but that was just the type of the iceberg. we saw this coming, here is what has already been reported. a michigan state senator posted this video online purportedly showing the gop poll observer being thrown out by election officials. note the reaction from the poll

worker. they are cheering. no concerns there, cheering when we have someone escorted out of the room, supposed to be watching what is going on. philadelphia city attorney an avowed anti-trump refused to comply with court order by trump's legal team. >> reporter: the order is pretty clear. i have been a lawyer for 30 years. >> why 8 attorneys need to evaluate this order. my client's representatives are within 6 feet of the process. >> we will discuss it with you in a bit. laura: after we keep counting

more votes. unbelievable. this comes as no surprise that all over philly gop attorneys observing polls put a block from ballot counting. what are they hiding. out west things are just as troubling. two days ago the attorney general from arizona found 18 unopened ballots hidden under a rock. those ballots have since been returned but shows how vulnerable mail in boating is. if that doesn't convince you check out what is happening in nevada. clark county officials have counted thousands of mail in ballots did people from people who no longer live there. thousands of complaints from voters including jill stogie who claimed this happened to her. >> in person, this time they mailed out the ballots and

somebody took my ballot and also took the ballot of my roommate. >> guaranteeing the integrity of our vote is necessary for both parties. joe biden says let every vote count but that is foolish and would be illegal. state laws require certain parameters be met for voter eligibility. i could vote tonight if i wanted to. should that vote count. we should ensure every legal vote counts, to be specific and correct. every improper vote cancels out a legal vote on the other side. that must never be allowed to happen. we need to make certain most americans believe elections are won or lost in this country fair and square. the fact is right now almost all of us who voted for donald trump, 70 million americans are so have real concerns about this mail in voting and how this vote

is being conducted. we don't trust the people counting the votes. good reason not to trust them and a lot of americans don't trust local officials overseeing the process and certainly don't trust the media reporting on it from what we have seen. this cannot be allowed to happen ever again. donald trump understands that. >> we are hearing stories that are horror stories and we can't let that happen to the united states of america. not a question who wins, republican, democrat, joe, myself, we can't let that happen to our country. we can't be disgraced by having this happen. it will probably go through a process, a legal process, judges are going to have to. >> let something unusual happens americans should always know the winner of the election election they were the next morning. the country needs certainty and

the democratic process cannot be less reliable than nigeria. that is why the trump campaign is fighting but not waiting for him, they are fighting for us so the generations from now this election isn't going to be remembered as another sad example of elite corruption but as a moment when we were diligent about getting to the truth. >> democracy is sometimes messy. sometimes requires a little patience as well but that patiences been reported for 240 years. the system of governance that has been the in the of the world. i ask everyone to stay calm, all people to stay call. >> do we really think if the positions were reversed, if biden is seeing his lead evaporate hour by hour, but his supporters given what they did this would be calm? there is not enough plywood on the east coast to protect

washington and baltimore from the damage they would do so spare me, mister vice president, conservatives don't rush into the streets to fight. we are simply asking for impartial review of what happened and that is our right. it is our duty when we have hundreds of thousands of ballots dumped in key states in batches after election night. donald trump received more votes than any republican presidential candidate in history and attractive the highest turnout among nonwhite voters in 60 years. he was able to do this not because he gave in and gave up when the going got tough but because he knew how to fight,

about time we had a republican who knew how to fight. he stood up for working-class americans instead of selling them out to multinational interests and now it is our turn to stand up for him. conservative and gop leaders need to rally to his side. it is beginning to happen, i am glad to see it. the american people need to make their voices heard as well. it is not just the future of one party that is at stake but the future of our republic and that is the angle. my next guest claims to have witnessed sketchy behavior at polling locations for joining his gordon pennington, poll watcher from michigan and voter and resident in maricopa county. you say you saw a lot of suspicious activity in michigan, the media says there's nothing to see, no fraud, let the long, what can you tell. >> i became a pole challenger, election challenger and took the training from two weeks before the election because like most citizens, my freedoms and the process i have assumed has all the integrity you would expect from the election process so the

election integrity fund offered training, i need to see this firsthand. after voting in my local precinct i drove two hours, parked my car, got my certification, went in and registered and got on the polling process and what i saw at first looked very orderly and conventional but as i looked more closely i saw the problems, a room of two or three football fields, might be as large as 100,000 square feet, adequate number of people to witness what was going on in the adjudication of questionable ballots of which there were many thousands and there weren't enough people which is required by michigan election law, one from each major party, to be there for witnessing and signing off on the duplication process. there were many times this process went on, the duplication process went on without anybody being there to witness this.

the entire political spectrum would be concerned about this. shannon: what is the duplication process? >> the duplication process involves a number of examples where it is unclear what about indicated so people look at, they adjudicate it by determining what were the marks that were meant to be here. there shouldn't be people with markings on the floor at all. this should be done in a way that is not permanent and cannot be fraudulently applied but think of thousands and thousands, we had seen a of independents, people have their own ideological -- we were there is independents and -- shannon: you couldn't witness it from where you were standing adequately, there weren't enough people but it seemed to you that

given all was happening in that huge space you need more people are being allowed to get close to them. >> it is both and someone said, i talked to many democrats, members of the aclu and others and we all agree republicans were underrepresented and that was there a -- >> that is the republicans fault, you can't blame democrats for that. that's the republicans fault. hold on. you told our producers there was an issue with all poll workers told you to fill in your own ballot. what happened? >> one of the biggest issues we have is the use of a sharpy pen used at different polling places. on the democrats own website in arizona they actually say do not use red ink or permanent marker because this may result in a false read by the ballot machine so that comes from their own website. when we showed up to polling stations they only gave us

sharpy markers. i specifically said i don't want to use a sharpy marker, do you have a regular pen, she said no, i only have a sharpy marker, use it, what it. through to the other side, she said don't worry about it, we've been doing it all day, not a big deal. we went ahead and use sharpy markers, you run into the machine at the end and what happens in arizona is you can go to a website to track the ballots and from what i have seen, not just me, it is all of -- i have groups of neighbors and friends, what happens is now when you go to check our ballot it says it is -- for me personally says i'm not even a registered voter now and a lot of people said their ballot hasn't been good, hasn't been counted. laura: all the people behind you, they had a similar issue? >> these are my neighbors. >> you were told to use a sharpy. the state ag says it is all

going to work out, this has been blown off but it is on the state website that you are not supposed to use it and that is the only thing you are given and we understand that democrats were given actual pens, the other writing instruments that are allowed under state law. that seems really bizarre. is it a coincidence? all of this could be a coincidence but i am glad you are all there. on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most corrupt how would you rate your polling station? >> most of the people were trying to do a good and honest job, they were generally congenial but people get tired, have their day and night shift, the problem is the wholesale lack of chain of custody understanding. the package was sent by fedex, ups or amazon everybody should be concerned about this and i'm glad i got to witness the problems there but i don't think

people are conspiring to do things illegitimately but it is easy to gain the system and it is like a shell game and we need to pay closer attention. laura: great to see both of you, thanks so much. allegations of democratic malfunction nonfeasance, the trump campaign is going to the courts with mixed success. the trump campaign scored illegal in pennsylvania but the judge in georgia dismissed the campaign attempt to disqualify late dollars was a michigan judge talked down the state's handling of its absentee ballots that breaking tonight lawyers for nevada gop sent a criminal referral to the justice department regarding 3062 instances of voter fraud saying thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting their ballots after they moved from nevada. i'm joined by one of the lawyers involved in the current legal

flight, former kansas attorney general. this is pretty astounding from nevada. they aren't the only ones. >> those who assured in the summer of lawlessness know us have an election without law and the law and will of law has lost its grip on the election process and the most successful democracy in human history and that is a tragedy. the rule of law helped us achieve that success. i've never seen such open defiance of court orders and the law since george wallace stood in the schoolhouse. we have to look closely at philadelphia. the trump campaign obtained a court order allowing people as the law allows to watch accounting process. the counting process should be transparent, open to all americans to see how their ballots are counted.

they have defied the court order, still refusing to allow republicans to gain access to see how the count is going. we have a prosecutor in philadelphia who threatened the president with jail if he shows up. the county next door, we have a prosecutor who threatened to arrest the person who was hired to put video cameras above the drop boxes which is required by law so we make sure people aren't shoveling multiple ballots into the dropbox. laura: the excuse the secretary of state gave for taking so long to count all the votes. >> counties are continuing to count, the final results are not certified until 20 days after the election, there is no final result "happening now" anyway. what is "happening now" is having enough ballots counted to see who the winner is, the farther apart that is the easier

it is to tell so it is very close in pennsylvania, the closer the race is the longer it takes. laura: why should the closeness of the race dictate the speed at which the votes are counted. >> michigan where democrat election official has democrat officials filling out ballots for others who aren't there including the ballots, casting the ballot and vote of - laura: you will have mitt romney and ben sass marching down pennsylvania avenue any minute now urging the president to drop out for the good of the country, concede the election, go on to raise money for the republican party but drop this. we recommend he followed a fight on? >> fight on. we deserve transparent elections. you have admitted violations of the law involving tens of

thousands of ballots by election officials which we can't let an election stand where we have obvious and admitted violations of the law. we deserve in this democracy transparent elections, they need to take down the barricades, provide the evidence they have that is available to the american people about how they perform their jobs, we need to see the laws that show when these ballots came in as when they were amped up, the video of the drop boxes, we need to have that evidence which does not harm any - laura: the burden is on joe biden to show the rest of the country this was an open and fair process that immeasurably hurt us. coming up florida governor ron desantis showing himself to be a true fighter for the president, he was out there first when this nonsense began and he's going to show us why florida could count votes in one night. he joins us in moments.

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♪ >> laura: ron desantis did ron desantis didn't just help trump build his winning coalition in florida, but blueprint for future gop victories across the country,

voicing serious concerns how this election process has been played from the bad polls to the biased media to the incompetence of other states vote counting messages as well. he has done this while many of the republican leaders remained pretty silent governor ron desantis joins us now but shouldn't this moment be producing more of a rallying cry must this happen in 2024 to anyone who is nominated by the republican party for the presidency? >> i think all republicans should be doing it regardless of their political aspirations, the president worked his heart out for us for four years particularly the tail end of the campaign coming up of covid-19 and we need to see this through, need the law followed, need people to observe when the law allows that and this has got to be on the up and up so i would urge everyone donate to the

president's legal relief, you talked about a number of suits and some have promise but i would tell them especially if you are in those states that have republican legislatures like pennsylvania and michigan and all these places call your state representatives and state senators. under article 2 of the constitution, presidential electors are done by legislatures and the schemes they create and the framework and if thursday pressure from that, if they are not following law, ignoring law then they can provide remedies as well. i would exhaust every option to make sure we have a panel. laura: this idea that standing up and saying wait a second, days after the election, in georgia they are not going to have a full vote until november 12th. >> in florida we have the votes have to be in on election day.

we have absentee voting, not mass mailing, you have to request it but all the votes are in and then you know how many votes are there. we track as every voter comes into that or submits, we know the universe, you counted and produce a result. a place like pennsylvania they can accept ballots after the election, don't even have to have a postmark and they can accept them. a lot of these places don't know how many ballots are out there it is you mentioned you will get of 4:00 am dump of massive votes for one candidate is almost none for the other and people look at that and just scratch their heads. people need to have confidence in the process and the way it has been done in a lot of these states has been incredibly chaotic. when you ban observers which should be there what are people supposed to think? what is wrong with having someone there to ensure the integrity of the process? it laura: we are checking videos where poll workers are filling in ballots. maybe there's a reason for that.

i can't think of one but we are not going to put it on the air until we verify it but a lot of reasons not to trust the results as they are being counted and the way they are being counted. but not this one. >> we also saw the way it was covered on election night, they would not call florida even though it was obvious he won it big but fox called arizona very early, now the president is closing in, 300,000 ballots outstanding, down 46,000 and that is calls for biden, north carolina the president up 76,000 votes and at most 160,000 votes, but that's not called for the president. there's been a double standard and a rush to call states for biden and create a narrative that biden is the rightful winner. laura: romney and ben sass and

others start urging the president in the next 24, 48 hours to drop out, would you recommend the president do that or would use a fight on? >> fight on, exhaust all options, there's a lot of options available. we want this to be a fair and credible process and want the law to be followed. laura: thank you, wonderful to see you tonight. some are actively fighting for our elections and our future, other so-called gop leaders are sitting idly by as the country hangs in the balance and conservative voters won't soon forget this application. joining us is hoover institution senior fellow victor davis hanson. donald trump is the present and future leader of the gop until someone else with more charisma, more energy and more of the following comes along. why do party leaders seem to be missing that?

>> i don't know but they wouldn't be where they are now with gains in the house and keeping the senate if it wasn't for donald trump and donald trump redefined race in this country, he's redefined it as clouds. he is saying to america if you are a black truck driver or mexican-american farmer you have more in common than the truck driver doesn't oprah winfrey or ron james, that's a dynamic concept, and starting to pay dividends his people see that race is incidental to who we are, that is why they hate him so much and all these republican people are going to come back -- there is no ashes of the republican party, it did very well, trump was not an anchor, he was avoided to all the down ballot candidates. the idea they will come back in and reconstruct it like a phoenix is not going to happen.

no other republican, mitt romney would have conceded this election two days ago. laura: nikki haley sent a tweet supporting the president saying we all donald trump for his leadership, conservative victories, the state legislatures, we went fairness, the law must be followed, we have to keep the faith the truth will prevail. someone said it sounds more like a eulogy for donald trump that are called to exhaust all legal remedies. >> this wasn't florida 2000, wednesday, this was state after state after state, this wasn't projections of three or four points, this is wisconsin 17 points, too much for people to

process, too egregious that it was every. state. ohio can do it but not michigan, iowa can do it but not wisconsin, utah can do it but not nevada. laura: the pausing of the vote, they all seemed to pause near about the same time, we are not going to count anymore. price waterhouse -- can you re-examine these questionable ballots. they ran out of trump's refusal to concede or admit that he has been beaten, it is worth reminding people what hillary clinton was saying just last week. >> there's an air of illegitimacy that surrounds trump's presidency and that just infuriates me. i was the candidate they stole and election from. >> he and stacy abrams are seen as martyrs for saying that but donald trump comes out today and had jake tapper say that,

that is so sad and pathetic. hillary is not - >> we should remind everybody the constitution says the state legislature adjudicates voting unless congress chooses to intervene. we really need something like the 20 sixth amendment saying no vote shall be accepted after 12 am on election day. we have to override this madness. >> cannot happen again am a or there will never be another republican president. in a shocking twist house republicans will be adding sees this election weakening nancy pelosi is holding putting leadership, kevin mccarthy tells us how this happened and what is next. achievable steps along the way... ...so we can spend a bit now, knowing we're prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. oooh, well...

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>> laura: in the laura: in the days leading up to election members of the esteemed polls were predicted gop could lose 20 seats in the

house. just like in 2016 these geniuses totally misread the american people. the gop has flipped eight seats so far with more wins on the way. not a single gop incumbent has lost. this red wave will leave nancy pelosi with the weakest house majority since the new deal and as a result moderate democrats admitted with party leadership. abigail sandy berger said this on the party conference call earlier today, no one should say the from the police ever again, no one should talk about socialism adding bit of democrats kept up their tactics in 2022 we will geting torn apart. joining me is kevin mccarthy. that is all well and good to be saying in a conference call but how many of them are willing to

take on the squad in public, in the media like on this show. >> number of them because they will be primary they will lose but what is interesting and shows more of the fraud, not one republican incumbent lost, already eight seats that ahead in ten more. how did donald trump lose in an atmosphere like that. how is it possible to claim that joe biden would win and not one republican member of congress lost reelection but almost 15 democrats did. we are watching this before our very eyes. why is it in these major states the big city stopped counting and all the votes come and so they know how many more they need. on the way here tonight, we are heading acetonitrile too by 300 votes. i don't have all the facts but just reported they allowed a little over 300 people to re-vote and now we are behind. i don't have all the facts but

this is transforming across america and what is interesting to me, i just spent four years listening to the democrats make false claims about voter infusion in the last election. it is happening before our very eyes. even after the city council races they allow people to observe the vote, allowed people inside. shannon: we have huge amounts of money from mark zuckerberg, george soros and others from local da races, to school board races in some cases and canvassing states like pennsylvania and these other efforts and that had a huge effect on this but congressman, republicans are watching, voters are watching how

republican leadership handles this and i didn't like the silence i was hearing from people until tonight when i heard more people starting to speak out. i know you have been speaking out but republicans better remember who helped expand this party. it wasn't some of the moderates. it was donald trump and they better stand and fight for him. >> the house republicans are not standing back, they are out across the country in these facilities making sure. listen to this little fact. every democrat that lost lost to a woman, minority or veteran republican. this president has expanded this party larger -- we will have more women in the republican house than in the history of america, more minorities and it was donald trump who expanded it. this is what is moving forward and i will tell you this, republicans will not back down. we will not wait four years to change this. we are going to fight this now and change it. for them to claim that arizona won at the end of the day the president will carry arizona.

he will win pennsylvania and that will be more than 270 electoral votes and every american will stand up. team trump on twitter, tell us if they see something that is incorrect. >> pennsylvania advantage the road, that doesn't look good at all unless a court steps and i don't see pennsylvania going in the right direction at all. this is getting sliced and diced. congressman jim clyburn, congressman mccarthy is in total denial, watch. >> we are in a pretty good place, joe biden will be the president-elect and we do know he has 72 billion votes, that is a mandate to me to change the direction of this country. shannon: they have a mandate?

that's a great mandate they have. didn't take the senate it looks like. >> they didn't defeat one republican incumbent and lost 15. donald trump won this election. everyone who is listening do not be quiet, do not be silent about this. we cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes. you don't need to be a republican. you believe every legal vote needs to count, you believe in the american process join together. shannon: thank you for being out there and being vocal. still ahead the real reason polling didn't get better from 2016-2020. was it because pollsters wanted to affect rather than reflect the election results? one of the few accurate pollsters this year will explain. fit and snacking light? fit and snacking light? yup, on it there too. you may think you're doing all you can to manage type 2 diabetes and heart disease... ...but could your medication do more to lower your heart risk? jardiance can reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults who also have known heart disease.

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♪ >> laura: it's obvious by now the pollsters learned nothing between 2016 and 2020, but then again maybe they're not >> pollsters learned nothing from 2016-2020 but maybe they're not interested in projecting elections but affecting them. robert kelly is chief pollster for salad or. you say the pollsters have given up on their true mission. why is that? >> if you mean the true mission is to give a snapshot of the

electorate they have given up on that but i don't think they've given up on their new mission. laura: but the new mission? >> to affect the election from the beginning of the summer when so many crazy senate race polls showed the mall tight but enable all the corporate money to flow and the doors. there were so many undecideds, these were unreasonable polls designed to drive donations so warships would be very big, people who want to be most upset should be the donors who gave all that money to races that were unwinnable. jillian: people who shoveled money to the lincoln project, those guys were breaking in money buying vacation houses or whatever they were doing. if you were told over the summer that trump's party would

gain house seats and hold the senate what would you have projected the election results to have been on the presidential level? >> i would have told you he will win big. if i had told people that is what is going to happen i would have been ridiculed as much has when i said they were shy trump voters and corruption in philadelphia. shannon: laura: how this trump lose one house races and senate races came out as they did, a question just raised by kevin mccarthy. monmouth university paul sir patrick murray found the next pathetic excuse for shoddy polling think it is possible republicans efforts to prevent their populations from voting had a sizable impact, but pollsters new would be immeasurable in their survey. we will never know how many ballots were not delivered by the post office. what about that?

>> q and on is mainstream but this isn't a bridge too far? i cannot conceive a conspiracy with the post office and if there was one to you think it would be to help the republicans? laura: the african-american minority vote you believe the exit polling is not an accurate reflection, why? >> if you won't tell the truth on the phone you're never going to tell the truth to a kid with an ipad or notepad. it is not reasonable. shy voters are shy for a reason, they will not face ridicule to a person in front of them. laura: anderson cooper shows us.

laura: cnn revealing itself over and over again during

trump's presidency and anderson cooper the latest clown. >> the president of the united states, the most powerful person in the world and we see him like an obese turtle on his back flailing in the hot sun realizing his time is over. laura: no words. >> in america vote is sacred. each ballot must be counted, democracy is sometimes messy. >> we want an honest election, honest count, we can't be disgraced by having something like this happen. jillian: it is friday november 6, 3 days since election day and still no winner. donald trump and joe biden both predicting victory as the nation waits on four key states. todd: some of those results may role in today but a long road ahead.