all of our marine friends out there, happy birthday. we thank you for your service, from the bottom of our hearts. that is "the story" of tuesday, november 10th, 2020. as always, "the story" goes on. we'll see you tomorrow night. good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." there is so much going on right now. so much, from so many directions, that at some point, it's worth pausing, turning off the headlines for a moment, and framing what we are seeing. in order to understand it. what you are watching right now is not simply a battle between two political parties, or even two opposing world with views, it's deeper deeper than that. if you want to understand what is really going on, we are going to isolate just one slogan that kind of decodes it all. slogan is "defund the police." defund the police. you probably haven't heard that for a while. in the weeks before the election, no elected democrat would say those words in public,

so effectively, they just disappeared. yet, in a lot of ways, "defund the police" defined this year in american politics. for months, it was the central demand of the american left. it was the main thing it wanted. and there was never any question about what defunding the police would mean, and really, it was a remarkably straightforward slogan. "defund the police" meant "defund the police." cut off their salaries, get rid of them. but why? what was the point of getting rid of the police come of defunding them? that's the real question. it's baffling, really. in conventional politics, the goal is always to improve the lives of your voters, give people something they want and in return, they will vote for you. that's the exchange. but who exactly wanted to defund the police? was there a constituency for that? whose life was going to be improved by abolishing law enforcement? was there evidence that any ones would be improved? no, there wasn't.

no academic study or white paper from some think tank in washington even suggested that defunding the police would help anyone. in fact, dozens of studies over decades proved exactly the opposite, it would make things much worse. and that makes sense. how would dangerous neighborhoods become safer once there was no one around to stop crime and violence? obviously, they wouldn't become safer, that's ridiculous. if you thought about it for 15 seconds you would know that defunding the police inevitably would wind up killing people. that's not an exaggeration, literally, americans would die funded the police. they knew that, but they did it anyway. we've never seen anything like that happen here. we had a lot of bad ideas in america over the years but most of them hurt people by accident. in the late 1950s, doctors prescribed to pregnant women because they seriously thought e drug turned out to cause horrifying birth defects, they

were shocked and contrite. well-meaning liberals who designed our welfare system never dreamed it would destroy the black family and make poverty worse. that was an unintended consequence of a good intention. that is not what is happening here. the left called for defunding the police knowing full well what would happen next, chaos. chaos was the whole point of it. more rape, more murder. and those were not byproducts, those were the intended consequence. think about that for a minute. the people behind defunding the police tried to destroy society itself. that's not politics. tearing down civilization isn't a political position. it's something much, much darker than that. it's a kind of spiritual battle. that sounds like overstating it, but it's not. we should understand the stakes here. for a long time, though, we

didn't understand. when the "defund the police" movement started this summer, few knew what was going on. as with so many faddish stereos that sweep our culture, multiple just went along with it. everyone else was. and blm vandals painted "defund the police" on a major thoroughfare in washington right near the white house, the incompetence who from that city were proud of it, they said so. dead flies like sandy cortez from westchester went on television to explain that defunding the police was cool. it's what all the kids were doing. it's the future, and therefore better. >> it's funny because when people ask me what does the world, where we defund the police, defunding police looks like, i tell them it looks at a suburb. >> tucker: defunding the police looks like a suburb, just like the one sandy cortez grew up in, with lush lawns and full parties and hip moms in rain villagers and a pickup line, fu!

but the reality of defunding the police was very different. american cities did not become suburbs thanks to sandy cortez's idea. as summer continued computers what they look like. [indistinct shouting] [silent sounding] [banging] [indistinct shouting] >> tucker: know, that is not sandy cortez's hometown, that's

the reality of defunding the police. our cities burn. the elderly were beaten and killed by thugs. crime skyrocketed in every metro area in the country. things fell apart, as they were always going to. no normal person in either party can support this, so the architects of defund the police did what they could to silence all discussion of the topic. shh, don't talk about it. here is the president of the minneapolis city council expending that americans who are uncomfortable with their homes being broken into in a world without police must be, and of course you can guess the punch line here, racist. watch. >> do you understand that the word dismantle or police free also make some people nervous, for instance, what if, in the middle of the night, my home is broken into? who do i call? >> yes, i mean, i hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors, and i know -- myself, too, that is something of

privilege, because for those of us for whom the system is working, i think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality, where calling the police may mean more harm is done. >> tucker: so calling the police is an act of bigotry. self-defense is immoral. that was lisa bender's position. again, that's not a political position, that's a religion. but increasingly, that was the posture of the entire democratic party, and you know what happened next, inevitably. by august, shootings in new york city had increased by more than 80% -- 80%! there is no precedent for that, because it's never happened. defunding the police, was killing americans in huge numbers. and yet, remarkably, the very people who claim so loudly to care about gun violence decided not to notice what was

happening. they never mentioned it. by september, when virtually every person who could forward it had fled the cities in fear of disorder and chaos, kamala harris was still repeating the same blm-approved talking points, still attacking the police. here she is in a tape she certainly wishes didn't exist. >> black lives matter has been the most significant agent for change within the criminal justice system because it has been a counterforce to the force within the system that is so grounded in status quo and in its own traditions. many of which have been harmful and have been discriminatory in the way they've been enforced. >> tucker: if republicans had been smart, that would have been a political ad last month. black lives matter has been the most significant agent for change within the criminal

justice system. what does that mean? well, black lives matter had only one demand of the justice system, and they shouted it over and over again into bullhorns in our streets. "defund the police." "defund the police." that was their demand. they said so, they didn't hide it. in many places, the authorities did just that, and you know what happens next. in minneapolis, which was the first city in america to embrace this lunacy, more than a hundred cops are now leaving the force. crime has become so bad in minneapolis at the very politicians who once demanded that we defund the police are now begging for more police. that's happening tonight. city officials are now considering bringing in officers from other jurisdictions to restore order and keep citizens from being killed. violent crime there is up 22% over last year. how did that happen? you know how it happened, and voters do come too. thankfully, this has been a disaster for the democratic party, not profound enough, but still. no one is for it. who is four defunding the

police? well, pretty much no one, it turns out. crime and chaos scare the hell out of homeowners, taxpayers, job holders, anyone with children or pets or cars or furniture or any expectation of life beyond this afternoon. defunding the police's nihilism and everyone knows that. most of the hispanic voters really hate the idea, that's one of the main reason somebody voted republican last week. you have to be a desperately unhappy, gender studies major with a degree from duke, to think defunding the police was a wise idea. and it turns out that's the entire constituency for it. unmarried, unhappy, gender studies majors from duke. that's not enough people to win and election, and some of the smarter democratic leaders are starting to figure that out. >> jaime harrison, defund the police, showed up on tv, across his head, that stuff hurt jaime,

and that is why i spoke out against it a long time ago. >> right. >> i've always said that these headlines can kill a political left. >> tucker: jim clyburn, ladies and gentlemen, telling it like it is. defunding the police is a bad idea because it can "kill a political effort." oh. not a bad idea because it kills human being, thousands of the poorest people in our society, which it measurably does, no one disputes that. no, it is a bad idea because it can kill a political effort, that is the language the democratic party and leaders understand. it's likely will be hearing a lot more about defunding the police. in fact, no one will ever again use that slogan. at some point, it will be like it never happened. what was that? something out of history. but it did happen, and it had massive consequences for all of us, and you should remember that. james craig is the chief of police in detroit and we are happy to have him on tonight. chief cried, you never fell for

this in detroit. you never defunded the police, i don't think anyone called for it there. why didn't you decide to defund the police? >> you know, i've got to tell you, tucker. let me just tell you, i love being on your show. you call it like it is. and i've got to tell you, defunding the police is comical and ridiculous. and you know why? as a police chief, police officers, we work for who? the community. >> tucker: right. >> and the communities that are ravaged by violence, the last thing they want, tucker, is to defund the police. look, i started this organizations many years ago and was laid off, that's defunding the police. when i came back 34 years later, they had taken 10% of police officers pay. that is defunding the police. let me tell you what the community says. you don't want defunding the police, we want more police, we support you, and these are in

communities that are ravaged by violence. they want us there. but you get these outsiders, and it's just shameful, when i hear the dialogue about defunding -- look at minneapolis. reimagining, dismantling the police, and now they are crying for more police. hypocrites, all of them. hypocrites. we serve -- >> tucker: are you surprised -- i'll answer for you, no, you are not surprised, you are a police chief. but what could possibly they have been thinking? why would anyone want to defund the police? >> you know what they are thinking about? political favor. with a small group who don't speak to their constituents. i don't care what city, when i worked in l.a., the people in south l.a. wanted the police, and they didn't want to defund the police. and it's sad, what i see going on across this country, and was even more sad, police chiefs in

these major cities, we need to stand up in unison and denounce defunding, dismantling, and this whole notion of reimagining. look, let me just say, i'm about reform. i've been in every department that's about reform. but what does reimagining look like? and now, minneapolis is calling for the sheriffs and transit police to come in to do what? to do police work? i mean -- >> tucker: [laughs] i wish they would listen to you at the outset. we talked to you when this began and he laughed in their faces, but of course, they ignored you completely. chief craig, thank you for coming on. >> i'm happy to be on, but i just got to say, that's why this group is calling for resignation, because they don't want to hear the truth. >> tucker: well, of course. >> but i'm staying. >> tucker: amen. i hope you do. i know people in your city do. chief craig, thank you beard >>

thank you. >> tucker: saagar enjeti from the hill is someone who has thought a lot about. you would have to have a political party that is completely controlled by a small group of incredibly decadent lifestyle liberals even to consider something this destructive. >> that's exactly what this is, tucker. this always has been a top down aristocratic revolution against the working class of this country. that is what "defund the police" is, at its very basic. why else is amazon, starbucks, every fortune 500 company in america support this movement? they want to rip us apart amongst racial lines. but it backfired, and that is why a large group of pan-ethnic, working-class voters voted republican for the highest share of this country has seen since right 1964 richard nixon, before the civil rights era. why did the latinos of miami-dade county and rio grande valley and lawrence,

massachusetts, or the asians of orange county, california, all stand up and say "hell no" against this movement? because they have skin in the game of actually needing to make wages, tucker, and they can't have their property looted and destroyed. they can't have their kids have this propaganda shoved down their throats in the public schools. they don't have private schools, and my schools that they can send their kids to to escape this madness. it always has been a revolution forced down upon the working class. that's why they stood up and took back the one power they had left, which was the vote, the ballot box in 2020. that is why we have what we have right now. >> tucker: i don't think i can add to that, that was so nicely expressed and true. you just describe the emerging republican coalition. these are the voters who vote republican and who republican leaders in washington need to represent. do you think they understand that? >> well, i don't think they understand that. unfortunately. they keep talking about trying to win back upper upper-middle-class white suburbanites or people behind

"defund the police" in the first place. there is a pan-ethnic working-class coalition out there that wants law and order, which wants to live their lives without intrusion, and that is something that the republican party needs to lean into. it's what donald trump has showed the way for the future. no other republican in this country could have won the rio grande valley. the county from my own home state of texas, stark county, one of the poorest counties in america, with an income of about $21,000, 95% hispanic, they have a piece of wall now thanks to president trump, and they voted republican for the first time by 47%, 30% swing from what we saw in 2016, just incredible to see. >> tucker: it is unbelievable, and it wasn't because of pandering on immigration. you don't have to support open borders to get people with spanish sounding last names. saagar enjeti, thank you so much. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: we told you about the enemies list circulating for democrats online designed to punish trump supporter's,

because that is not ominous or anything. who is on this list and what happens to the people who find themselves on this list? the no-work list, as the left is sending around the country? we've got new information on that, straight ahead. ♪

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>> tucker: so, democrats are saying they won the presidential election, it's over, we are not allowed to talk about it anymore, hurt you if they do. wthey are flooding our streets, but some are angry, see matter than ever, so mad they want revenge for having to live in a country for a president they didn't vote for. in philadelphia this weekend, a mob of thousands joe biden voters beat an effigy of the president, why did they do that? they'd say they just beat him. they called for activists to archive the names of trump supporter's, and today, a well-funded something called the lincoln project we did out information for the attorneys representing the trump campaign in voter fraud litigation. here are the two attorneys attempting to help trump over trump overturn the will of the pennsylvanian people purely also

encouraged encouraged lunatics to harass attorneys at another prominent law firm representing the republican party. make them famous. what is this about? tammy bruce, one of the most insightful people, happy to have her come with a host of "get tammy bruce" on fox nation. tammy, thanks for coming on. why would they be even angrier if they won, and further still, why would they be trying to get people to disagree with hurt? >> well, it is in their nature, and we've seen this play out actually before this election, the riots, that is a signal of this, as well, a and effort and desire to punish people who are different, who accomplish something different from you, who may be embarrassed you, who make you feel, perhaps inadequate, and it's not their fault, but it is about this notion on the left that any problem you have is due to someone else, someone else did it to you, and that's going to

have to manifest somehow, but all of these projects have resulted in lists, and it's in media, yes, the lincoln project, another project was announced after that aoc tweet called "the trump accountability project," which is a list, tucker, of supreme court justices, regular judges, white house staff, family members, other politicians, who assisted president trump. it is, literally, a stalinist tactic, and making up lists in our history -- human history -- has never ended well. but it does provide us a stark alarm about what people are capable of and what they want to do, so when people thought, oh, the democrats and the people who hate trumpet and have been doing all of this are well meaning, they are just misguided. no, no, they are not well-meaning. they know what they are doing. these are smart, political people. they understand the history of this, but they are doing it because they feel they can, and

the american people rejected it, interestingly, in this election, down ballot it was a red wave, and if they continue on this track of cancel culture and purge lists, the american people are going to give them another kick in the bottom in 2022, and also, in georgia, with those two senators, people are going to be looking at these runoff election thinking, "is this what we want?" >> tucker: well, i hope so, because with interesting is alarming is they weren't doing this last week or last year when they thought they had less power. the second they thought they had control, they became more extreme. shouldn't they calm down and be magnanimous? why are they doing this now? that worries me. >> well, they've always wanted to do it. they are doing it now because they feel they will be generally numb and genuinely no repercussions, that they in fact may be rewarded. i'm waiting to hear the biden campaign, kamala harris, the obama campaign, everybody

condemned this, repudiate it. we have yet to hear that, so we have this message of unity and healing, but ignore the guillotine, tucker, because that is a mostly peaceful machine. >> tucker: ah. tammy, i knew you would explain it. great to see you. >> thank you, sir. thank you. >> tucker: so while the rest of us weren't paying attention and have been living our lives, wokeness infected the most noble institution we have, the military. at west point, a new push to get rid of racially insensitive monuments and language. people who should be defending the country are instead attacking the country. senator tom cotton is here to talk about what's going on and what can be done to stop it. that is straight ahead. ♪ do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly

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>> tucker: so, carp cultural arsonists and the media decided a few years ago that statues ned

to be demolished and buildings needed to be renamed, because that that's not the red guard or anything. don't worry. will stop there, we won't come to your house. they are still talking about it, and anyone who opposes it would just like to come i don't know, have a statue of teddy roosevelt in new york city, is still intact. joe biden and kamala harris, to this day, attack anyone who thinks that was a bad idea. they are so insane, it got into thousand 17. >> george washington was a slave owner and we need to call slave owners out for what they are. they think they were protecting american freedom or not, he wasn't protecting my freedom. i wasn't someone -- my ancestors weren't deemed human beings to him, so i don't care if it is a george washington statuary robert e. lee statue, they all need to come down. >> tucker: yeah, "they all need to come down." and because we sort of nodded and said, "oh, well, maybe they do," we shouldn't be surprised

at those ideas -- which are poison -- have infected our military. of course that was inevitable. the united states military academy, west point, in west point, new york, there is now a push to get rid of buildings like the lee barracks named after general robert e. lee. he was a bad man, they say. he needs to be erased. senator tom cotton is supporting a petition to stop this, now. he joins us to explain why. senator cotton, thanks for joining us. you know you are going to be called names for this, so rather than ask you a question, i'll just give you a chance to explain why you are doing it. >> [laughs] well, tucker, i get called names a lot. it doesn't bother me any. what does bother me is when you have woke, politically correct liberals who are trying to erase history. look at west point. west point is not just a military academy. it is, essentially, a museum to the united states army. and the cadets there need to learn about their history. that's why they have a line of

portraits of every superintendent of west point. robert e. lee was one of those superintendents, from 1852 to 1855. are we going to take that painting down and pretend that he wasn't a superintendent? when he was still an officer in the united states army? or in the library, there are two grand portraits of ulysses s. grant and robert e. lee. the two great commanders, and the confederacy who faced off against each other, unfortunately, u.s. grant one, but are we going to take down the lee portraits when cadets are studying that library, they don't know who u.s. grant proposed, some fictitious opponent, who can't be named like a harry potter villain? if we taught these politically correct liberals a little more history, maybe they would realize that blm, marxists, and critical race theorists actually sound just like john c calhoun, the great 19th century defender of slavery because they always reduce people to the color of

their skin. with nothing but their race. they repudiate -- they repudiate the principles of the declaration of independence and the statesmanship of abraham lincoln, which is one reason why, this summer, they started tearing down statues of robert e. lee and stonewall jackson, but pretty quickly, they went on to statues of washington and andrew jackson and u.s. grant and abraham lincoln, and when they are tearing down statues of lincoln and u.s. grant, it's not about the confederacy or the civil war, it's because you hate america. >> tucker: let me ask a broader question of the military, your course served overseas. the military is our most impressive institution precisely because it is a meritocracy, people from any background are judged on merit, encourage, ability, that is why we revere it. there's a huge effort underway, as you well know, to change that i make it not a meritocracy and to promote promote people, recrt people based on irrelevant, immutable characteristics. is there anything being done to keep the military elite and meritocratic, to stop that?

>> well, it won't happen on my watch if i've anything to do about it. you're right, tucker, the u.s. military is one place where you can go and it doesn't matter who you are or how rich or powerful your parents are, what color your skin is, in which you will only be held to the standards that you set for yourselves that you can achieve, and there is no chance, no chance that we can continue to have the world's best military designed to keep us safe by presenting us from having to go to war in the first place if we want to down low standards for any political or corrective the only -- the only standard to which we should hold all of our soldiers and sailors, airmen and marines, is the same standard for each and every one of them, the standard of excellence. >> tucker: that's the promise of america. so nicely put, and i hope it remains in the military. a big effort to change that, that you should know about. senator cotton, great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: so, if joe biden takes power in june, what will happen? well, we got an invitation of that tonight.

joe biden appears to be prepared to walk down the country again, and even some of his supporters are not taking that well, at all, and they should end. that's next. ♪

♪ >> tucker: we may soon have a working coronavirus vaccine. you would think that news would be greeted with joy on the democratic side. democrats believe vaccines are the answer to everything. don't ask questions, just take the shot. new york governor andrew cuomo had a different reaction. he has worked hard to get his state's body count high come he doesn't want anyone, not the white house are big pharma, to get in the way of that. >> the bad news is that it's about two months before joe biden takes over, and that means this administration is going to be implementing a vaccine plan. you have two months, and we can't let this vaccination plan go forward the way that trump administration is designing it, because biden can't undo it two months later. will be in the midst of it. and i'm going, i've been talking

to governors across the nation about that, how can we shape the trump administration vaccine plan to fix it or stop it before it does damage? >> tucker: oh, so we have the vaccine, but you can't have it because the orange man is still president. okay. back in april, when he didn't realize the vaccine might come out while trump was still president, governor cuomo had a very different reaction. here it is. >> well, when is this over? i say -- personal opinion -- it is over when we have a vaccine. it's over when people know i'm 100% safe and i don't have to worry about this. when does that happen? when we have a vaccine. >> tucker: dr. marc siegel is a fox news medical contributor and joins us tonight. dr. siegel, thank you so much for coming on. i didn't realize who was president determines the efficacy of a vaccine. >> tucker, it doesn't. >> tucker: oh, okay. >> this is about two men.

we are going to start with the first man there, the governor of new york, who is playing politics and his grandstanding, and is saying it is bad news on what may end up being one of the most important days in the recent history of science. all of this work coming together, the public-private partnership, making a vaccine, now finding out it is 90% effective in late trials, such an exciting day, he's talking about shaping it, or possibly blocking it? that is the worst, because we already have a vaccine compliance problem in the united states. now, let's contrast governor cuomo with another man. a man who came up through the ranks, a man who did it through hard work, nose to the grindstone, didn't inherit it through his family, mind you, and he worked and worked until eventually he became a four-star general, and then he became the head of supply to the entire armed forces, and then he was tapped by president trump to become the chief operating

officer of operation warp speed, and that man's name -- remember this name, tucker, you know it -- it is cost per knock, and we haven't heard enough about gossip or not. let me tell you about him, he is working behind the scenes on a program called "tiberius," just like the roman tiberius, he is looking at it from a computer point of view, so when the vaccine is deployed -- that's right, deployed, he's going to be able to track it. we have a problem with this vaccine permit has to be stored at 80 degrees below zero centigrade, but gus perna is on top of that and he is working with pfizer, and pfizer already has in place the plans for deploying this vaccine, where it is going to go, where the supply chain is going to go, and gus perna was asked recently, four-star general, gus perna was asked recently, what are you going to do, general, when the fda gives an emergency approval for this vaccine? and you know what the general said? one word, tucker: execute. execute. and you know what he said,

within 24 hours, the first batch of this vaccine is going to be in the right places all around the country, stored with dry ice, or potentially with liquid nitrogen, the facilities will be there, the clinics will be there, the hospitals will be there, the pharmacies will be there, and you know what? i believe him. i have a question for you, tucker. who are you going to believe? this governor, who changes his mind every second on the political winds? for the general? tucker, i choose the military in this country every time. tucker? >> tucker: dr. marc siegel, thank you so much. that is the question of who are you going to believe? whenever the vaccine arrives, let's hope the people in charge slowly and calmly explained to us what it does, with the risks are, what the benefits are come and get buy-in from the public and calm everyone down before forcing us to take it, that's fair, it's a democracy. today, something called the office of president-elect

joe biden named robert gordon it's team lead for matters relating to health and human services. that man, robert gordon, could soon run this country's pandemic response. who is he, exactly? we should know. he is currently director of the michigan department of health. gordon just released health guidelines for the state of michigan ahead of thanksgiving. in those guidelines, keep your voices down. and your masks on in between bites. take it off when you eat or drink, then put it back on." that's an order, by the way. meanwhile, joe biden has named michael oster harm to his coronavirus task force. here he was in august, sang locked down save us money in the end. >> it's me to be economically much, much cheaper for us to deal with this and lockdown then it is to continue to watch these cases increase the next 6 to 12 months. if we locked down, get better control of these other countries have done, where they could basically live with the virus in a very different way than we are right now, the only answer.

the fault is going to be a challenge. >> tucker: it's going to be cheaper. keep in mind, this man is a doctor, not an economist, so take that with a grain of salt. but what is joe biden's plan to fight the coronavirus? starting with the outlines, over the weekend, a woman not know matt called wolf, a famous democrat come if you are older than 30 you remember her, became one of many joe biden supporters to rethink what this is about, what with this, "if i knew joe biden was open to lockdowns as enough states, which is something that is historically unprecedented in a pandemic, and terrifying practice, one that won't ever end because elites love it, i would have have voted for him." a surprisingly blunt, insightful, and honest observation from naomi wolf. are others coming to the same conclusion? just the man to talk to.

lockdowns as a strategy. alex pearson. is a lockdown the strategy joe biden appears to be planning, should he take control? >> he certainly has people who would like them to go that route, including michael osterholm. michael osterholm in that clip, which i viewed before i came on with you, talks about what a wonderful job europe has done, which looked pretty good and how we should follow europe in a lockdown, really hard. that was really good in august,d right now with france reporting yesterday the equivalent of 425,000 positive tests, via population. in other words, the french and european numbers have been much worse than the u.s. numbers recently. here's the broader point, tuck tucker. for lockdowns and coronavirus have been inherently political from the beginning. i think there's a very good case to be made that president trump would be coasting into a second term, or would have won a second term, anyway, if you had -- if

he hadn't had the coronavirus and had it been punished for it by the media. so as biden takes office, and wi think we all expect he is going to take office in ten weeks. republicans are going to have to really raise their voices i think, if we don't had for a national lockdown, if we're not going to have national mask mandates, which is something else that biden has indicated he wants very aggressively, and in the weeks between now and january 20th, republicans are going to have to decide what to do. are they going to, you know, fight what looks like a losing battle on behalf of donald trump, or are they going to fight for covid restrictions that are reasonable in that get us moving forward -- i guess i should just say fight against covid restrictions -- because a lot of us on what i would call team reality are going to be depending on, you know, republicans at the national and state level to push back. i mean, i said yesterday, i think desantis and others -- i didn't say specifically, but i think republican governors and senators, there should be a covid task force that says

"here's what we think needs to be done." especially governors of big states who are making these decisions. andrew cuomo can say he doesn't want vaccines, then why can't ron desantis and kemp and other governors say, here is what we think is what we should do, and that's what we are going to do in our states, whether you like it or not, joe biden. if they are going do that, i don't see how they fight for donald trump, to make a case of election fraud, i don't think they can do both of those things. >> tucker: well, i would certainly like them to save the country from complete destruction, from any of those threats, but certainly from a covert shutdown, which i don't think anyone thinks is a good idea. naomi wolf, amazingly, is right. alex berenson, thank you so much. >> naomi -- thank you. >> tucker: amazing! naomi wolf. never thought i'd live long enough to say that. well, andrew cuomo isn't simply the governor of new york, he is also something of a pinup model, maybe doesn't have the -- of his

brother, but yesterday, andrew cuomo let us know he is a very tough man. very tough man! he put big orange on notice. we'll show you the tape, if you can stand it, next. ♪

>> tucker: we opened last night's show by telling you about voter fraud during last week's election. it is real. we told you we were going to keep track of where those investigations are going and we will. we will be doing it all day tomorrow, we will bring you a much meatier discussion of what we know. we want to bring up-to-date on a couple of developments, and pennsylvania state lawmakers are calling for a bipartisan investment committee with subpoena power to look into voter fraud there appeared in florida, a woman who died in 2017 somehow managed to vote. and in puerto rico, which democrats would like to make a state and will if they take the senate, officials have found 174

boxes of uncounted ballots. not ballots, boxes of ballots. so there are a lot more stories like that. do they add up to a trend? may be. we are going to have that report for you tomorrow because voter fraud always matters, no matter the outcome. if you expect voter fraud, he dismissed the basic premise of democracy. as promised we want to end tonight on andrew cuomo, the governor of new york trying to be the most masculine cuomo on television, he announced he was thinking about punching donald trump this year. sounds pretty tough, punching the president of the united states right in the face and he would have done it if he hadn't inherited his father's job as governor. watch. >> i needed him to help new york. that was my job. if i wasn't governor of new york i would have decked him, period. he was attacking me, attacking

my family, he was anti-italian, every nasty thing, you know. if i take away that word "governor" for 24 hours, i would have had a field day with him. >> tucker: [laughs] he's anti-italian now! everyone is an aggrieved victim, even governor cuomo. sean hannity is not, he's next. >> sean: i feel sorry for him. by the way, interesting stories about dead people voting. interesting. what free and fair elections will have confidence in. good show, welcome to "hannity." tonight, millions of americans, you do feel betrayed. according to politico, look at this, 70% of republicans don't believe this election was free, fair, and for good reason. we sublet an election law violations in state after state. we have watched them pull six, 20, some even saying to cameras and now an affidavit, 100 feet away. mail-in ballots w