hen their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ we'll see you tomorrow night. good night, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." there is so much going onwe rigt now, so much, from so many directions that at some point it's worth pausing, turning off the headlines for a moment and framing what we are seeing in order to understand it. what you are watching right now is not simply battle between two political parties or even two opposing worldviews, it is deeper than that and if you want to understand what's really going on, we are going to just one slogan that kind of decodes it all. the slogan is "defund the police." " defund the police, you probably haven't heard that for a while. in the weeks before the election, no elected democrat would say those words in public,

so effectively theyc, disappear. in a lot of ways, defund the police defined this year in american politics. for months it was the central demand of the american left, it was the main thing they wanted and there was never any question about what defunding the police would mean and really it was a remarkably straightforward slogan. defund the police meant defund the police. cut off their salaries, get rid of them, but why? what was the point of getting rid of the police, of defunding them? that's the real question. it's baffling, really. in conventional politics, the goal is always to improve the lives of her voters, give people something they want and in return they will vote for you. that's the exchange. but who exactly wanted to defund the police? was there a for that? whose life is going to be improved by abolishing law enforcement? was there evidence that anyone's would be improved? know, there wasn't.

no academic study or white paper from some think tank in washington even suggested that defunding the police would help anyone. in fact, dozens of studies over decades proved exactly the opposite.pr it would make things much worse. and that makes sense. how a dangerous neighborhood becomes safer once there was no eone around to stop crime and violence. obviously they wouldn't become safer, that's ridiculous. if you thought about it for 15 seconds, you would know that defunding the police inevitably would wind up killing people. that's not an exaggeration. it literally americans would die if you defund the police. they knew that, but they did it anyway. we've never seen anything like that happen here. without a lot of bad ideas in america over the years, but most of them hurt people by accident. in the late 1950s doctors prescribed full of my two pregnant women because they sincerely thought it would help. when it turned out to cause horrifying birth defects, they were shocked and contrite.

well-meaning liberals who designed our welfare system never dreamed it would destroy the s black family and make property worse. that was an unintended consequence of a good intention. that is not what is happening here. the left called for defunding the police knowing full well what would happen next. chaos. chaos was the whole point of it. more rape, more robbery, more murder. those weren't unfortunate byproducts of a noble idea, those are the intended consequences. think about that for a minute. the people behind defunding the police tried to destroy society itself. that's not politics. tearing down civilizationin isnt a political position.n. it's something much, much darker than that. it's a kind of spiritual battle. that sounds like overstatement, but it's not. we should understand the stakes here. for a long time though, we

didn't understand them. in fact, when the defund the police movement started over the summer, few knew what was going on. as with so many hysteria's that sweep our culture, most people went along with it, they were afraid not to. everyone else was, so when blm vandals came to defund the police on a major thoroughfare in washington, right near the white house, the incompetents around that city let it stand for months. they were proud of it, they said so. gadflies like sandy cortez from westchester went on television to explain that defunding the police was cool. it's what all the kids were doing. it's the future, and therefore better. >> it's funny because when people ask me what does a world where we defund the police --wo where defund the police looks like, i told him it looks like a suburb. >> tucker: defunding the police looks like a suburb.ur just like the one sandy cortez grew up in, with lush lawns and pool parties and hip moms and range rover's in the pickup line far in!

but the reality of defunding the policend was very different. america's cities did not become suburbs thanks to sandy cortez's idea. as summer continued, here's what they look like. [indiscernible]. [indiscernible]. >> [indiscernible]. >> tucker: no, that's not sandy cortez's leafy hometown.

that's the reality of defunding the police. our cities burned, the elderly were beaten and killed by thugs, crime skyrocketed in every metro area in the country. things fell apart as they were t always going to. no normal person in either party could support this, so the architects of defund the policee did what they could to silence all discussion of the topic. don't talk about it. here's lisa bender, the president of the minneapolis city council explained that americans weres uncomfortable with their homes being broken into and a world without police must be, and of course you can guess the punch line here, racist. watch. >> do understand that the wordwo dismantle or police free also makes some people nervous? for instance, what if in the middle of the night, my home is broken into. who do i call? >> yes, i mean, i hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors, and i note -- and myself too, i know that comes

from a place of privilege because for those of us for whom the system is working, i think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm done. >> tucker: so calling the police as an act of bigotry, self-defense is immoral. that was lisa bender's position. again, that's not a political position. that's a religion. but increasingly that was the posture of the entire democratic party, and you know what happened next inevitably. by august, shootings in new york city had increased by more than 80% over the year before, 80%. there is no precedent for that because it's never f happened. defunding the police was killing americans in huge numbers. and yet remarkably, the very people who claimed so loudly to care about gun violence decided not to notice what was happening. they never mentioned n it.

by september, when virtuallyep every person who could afford it had fled the cities in fear of disorder and chaos, kamala harris was still repeating the samehe blm approvd talking points, still attacking the police. here's a tape she certainly wishes doesn't exist. >> black lives matter has been the most significant agent for change within the criminal c justice system because it has been a counterforce to the force within the system that is so grounded in status quo and in its own traditions. many of which have been harmful and have been discriminatory in a way that they've been enforc enforced. >> tucker: of republicans have been smart, that would have been a political ad last month. black lives matter has been the most significant agent for change within the criminal

justice system. what does that mean? well, black lives matter has only one demand of thead justice system and they shouted it over and over again into bullhorns in our streets. defund the police! defund the police! that was their demand. they said so, they didn't hide it. so in many places, the authorities did just that and you know what happenedju next. in minneapolis, which was the first city in america to embrace this lunacy, more than 100 cops are now leavingy, the force. crime has become so bad in minneapolis that the very politicians who once demanded that we defund the police are now begging for more police. that's happening tonight. city officials are now considering bringing in officers from other jurisdictions to restore order and keep citizens from beingde killed. k violent crime there is up 22% over last year. how did that happen? you know how it happened, and voters dot too. thankfully this has been a disaster for the democratic party. not profound enough, but still, no one is for it. who is for defunding the police?

well, pretty much know when it turns out. and chaos scare home owners, taxpayers, job-holders, anyone with children t or pets or cars, or furniture, or any expectations of life beyond this afternoon. defunding the police's nihilism and everyone knows that. polls show that hispanic voters really hate the idea.re that's one of the main reason so many voted republican last week. you would have to be a desperately unhappy gender studies major with a degree from duke to think defunding the police was a wise idea. and it turns out that's the entireti constituency for it. unmarried, unhappy, gender studies majors from duke. that's not enough people to win and election some of the smarter democratic leaders are starting to figure that out. >> [indiscernible] started to plateau with defund the police, showed up with the caption on tv right across his head, that stuff hurt and that's why i

spoke a long time ago. i've always said that these headlines can kill [indiscernible]. >> tucker: james clyburn, telling it like it is. defunding the police is a bad idea because it can "kill a political effort." not a bad idea because it kills human beings, thousands of the poorest people in our society, which it measurably does, no one disputes that. no, it's a bad idea because it can kill a political agenda and that the language the democratic party and its leaders can understand. so it's unlikely we will be hearing a lot more w about defunding the police. in fact, no one will ever again use that slogan. at some point it will be like it never happened. what was that? something out of history. but it did happen and it had massive consequences for all of us. you should remember it. james greg is the chief of police in detroit and we are happy to have him on tonight. chiefe craig, you never fell fr

this in detroit. you never defund the police. i don't think anyone called for there. why didn't you decide to defund the police? >> you know, i got to tell you -- let me just tell you -- thank you, i love being on your show, you call it like it is.t and about to tell you, defunding the police is comical and ridiculous. and you know why? as a police chief, police officers, you work for who? the community. >> tucker: writes. >> and the communities that are ravaged by violence, the last thing they want, tucker, is to defund the police. look, i started in this organization many years ago and was laid off. that's defunding the police. when i came back 34 years later, they had taken 10% of the police officers pay. that's defunding the police. let me tell you what the community says. we don't want defunding the police. we want more police. we support you, and these are in

communities that are ravaged by violence. they want us there, but you get these outsiders, and it's just shameful when i hear the dialogue about defunding -- look at minneapolis. reimagining, dismantling police and now they are crying for more police. hypocrites, all of them. hypocrites. we serve -- >> tucker: are you -- are you surprised -- i will answer for you, no, you are not surprised, you're a police chief, but what could possibly they have been thinking? why would anyone want to defund the police? >> you know what they're thinking about? political favor. with a small group who don't speak for the constituents. i don't care what city. when i worked in l.a., the people inn south l.a. wanted the police and they didn't want to defund the police. and it's sad what i see going on across this country and what's even g more sad, police chiefs n

these major cities, we need to stand up in unison and denounced defunding, dismantling, and this whole notion of reimagining. look, let me just say, i'm about reform. i've been in every department, it's about reform, but what does reimagining look like? and now minneapolis is calling for the sheriffs and transit police to come in to do what? to do police work? >> tucker: exactly. [laughs] i wish they'd listen to you at the outset. we talked to you right when this began and you left in their faces, but of course they ignored you completely. chief craig, thank you for coming onto neighboring >> i'm happy to be here, but i just have to say that's why this group is calling for resignation, because they don't want to hear the truth. >> tucker: of course. >> but i'm saying it. >> tucker: amen, i hope you do, because i know people in your city do. chief craig, thank you.

>> thank you. >> tucker: one of the people whose thought a lot about what this all means. thanks for joining us. i mean, you would have to have a political party that's completely controlled by a small group of incredibly decadent lifestyle liberals even to consider something this destructive.st >> that's exactly what this is, tucker. it always has been a top-down aristocratic revolution against the working class of this country. that's what defund the police is at its very basic. why else does emma gone, starbucks and every fortune 500 don't in america support this movement? they want to rip us apart amongst racial lines but it backfired. and that is why a large group of pan-ethnic working-class voters voted republican for the highest share of this country h has seen since 1960 for richard nixon since before the civil rights era. it why did the latinos of miami-dade county and rio grande

valley and lawrence, massachusetts, or the asians of orange county, california, all stand up and say no against this movement? because they have skin in the game of actually needing to make wages, tucker, and they can't have their property looted and destroyed. they can't have their kids have this propaganda shoved down my throat in the public schools. they don't have private schools, nice schools but they can send their kids to to escape this madness. it always has been a revolution forced down upon the working class. that's why they stood up and took back the one power they had left, which was the vote, the ballot box 2020. that's why we have what we have right now. i tucker: i don't think could add to that, that was so nicely expressed and true puritb you just described the emerging emerging republican coalition. voters who vote republican and who republican leaders in washington need to represent. do you think i understand? >> i don't think that they do understand that. they keep talking about trying to win back upper-middle-class white suburbanites who are the people who are behind defund the police in the first place.

there is a pan-ethnic working-class coalition out there that wants law and order. which wants to live their lives without intrusion, and that is something that the republican party needs to lean into. it's what donald trump has showed the way for the future. no other republican in this country could have won the rio grande valley. for my own home state of texas, stark county, one of the poorest counties in america withou an income of about $21,000, 95% hispanic, they have a piece of wall now thanks to president trump and now they voted republican for the first time by 47%, a 30% swing and we saw in 2016. it's just incredible to see. >> tucker: it is unbelievable and it wasn't because ofbl pandering on immigration. you don't have to support open borders to get the votes of people with spanish-sounding last names. it's a stupid position. thank you so much. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: was told you about enemies list circulating through democrats online designed to

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>> tucker: so democrats are saying they won ther: presidentl election, it's over, you're not allowed to talk about it anymore, they'll hurt you if you do. they are flooding our streets, they are victorious. but the weird thing is, they are still angry. some of them seem madder than ever, so mad they want revenge for having to live in a country with a president they didn't vote for. in philadelphia this week and a mob of about a thousand joe biden voters beat an effigy of the sitting president. why did they do that? they say they just beat him, but they didn't. sandy cortez called for activists to "archive the name of trump supporter's" and then today, a well-funded democratic operation funded mostly by hedge fund managers in silicon valley types, called the lincoln project, tweeted out personally identifying information for the attorneys representing the w trp campaign and voter fraud litigation. "here are the two attorneys attempting to help trump overturn the will of the

pennsylvania people. "they also encourage lunatics to harass attorneys that another prominent law firm. make them famous the lincoln project said. how is that different from hurt them? will of course, it's not. where is this going and what's it about? tammy bruce, one of the most insightful people, we are happy to have her, she is the host of get tammy bruce on fox nation. thanks for coming on. so why when they say they won with a b even angrier, and why, furtherer still, with a be tryig to get people to disagree with hertz? >> well, it's in their nature and we've seen this play out actually before this election. the riots, right? that is a signal of this as well. it's an effort and desire to punish people who are different, who accomplish something different from you, who may be embarrassed you, who make you feel perhaps inadequate and it's not, you know, their fault, but it's about this notion on the left that any problem you have is due to someone else.

someone else did it to you that's going to have to manifest somehow, but all of these projects have resulted in lists and it's in media, it's thees lincoln project. another project was announced after that aoc tweet called the trump accountability project, which is a list, tucker, of supreme court justices, regular judges, white house staff, family members, other politicians who assisted president trump. it is literally a stalinist tactic in the making of lists in our history -- human history, has never ended well. but it does provide us a stark alarm about what people are capable of and what they want to do, so when people have thought oh, the democrats and the people that hate trump and have been doing all of this arewe well-meaning, they are just a misguided. no, they are not well-meaning. they know what they're doing, these are smart political people. they understand the history of this, but they're doing it

because they feel they can. and the american people rejected it interestingly in this election down ballot, it was a red wave and if they continue on this track of cancel culture and purge lists, the american people are going to give them another kick ineo the bottom in 2022 and also in georgia with those two senators. people are going to be looking at these runoff elections thinking is this what we want? >> tucker: i hope so. what's interesting and alarming as they weren't doing this last week or last year when they thought they had less power. the second they thought they hae control, they became more extreme. shouldn't they calm down and be magnanimous? why are they doing this now? that worries me. >> well, they've always wanted to do it.y' they're doing it now becauseow they feel that there will be genuinely no repercussions, there will be no problem, that they in fact maybe will be rewarded. i'm waiting to hear they biden campaign, kamala harris, the obama campaign, everybody

condemn this, repudiate it. we have yet to hear that, so we have this message of unity and healing, but ignore the guillotine, tucker, because t that's a mostly peaceful machine. >> tucker: tammy, i knew you would explain it, thank you so much, great to see you. >> thank you, sir, thank you. >> tucker: so while the rest of us weren't paying attention and living our lives, wokeness infected the most noble institution we have, the military. at west point for example, there's a new push under way to rid of racially insensitive monuments and language. people who should be defending the country [indiscernible] are instead [indiscernible] the country.s senator tom cotton is here to talk about what's going on and what can be done to stop it, that's straight ahead. ♪

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[indiscernible] decided a few years ago that statues needed to be demolished and the buildings need to be renamed, because that's not the red guard or anything. don't worry, we will stop o the, we won't come to your house. they are still talking about it and anyone who opposes it would just like to, i don't know, but would like to have a statue of teddy roosevelt in new york city is still intact. joe biden and kamala harris to this dayay attack anyone who thinks that was a bad idea. here's how insane it got in 2017. >> george washington was a slave owner and we need to call them out for what they are. whether we think they were protecting american freedom or not, he wasn't protecting my freedom. i wasn't someone who my ancestors weren't deemed human beings s to him and so to me, i don't care if it's a george washington statue or a thomas jefferson statue or a robert e. lee statue, they all need to comee down. >> tucker: yeah, they all need to come down. and because we sort of nodded and said maybe they do, we shouldn't be surprised that

those ideas, which are poison, have infected our military. of course that was inevitable. at the united states military academy, west point in west point, new york, there was, now a push to get rid of l buildings named after general robert e. lee. he was a bad man, they said. he needs to be erased. senator tom cotton is supporting a petition to stop this, now. he joins us to explain why. senator cotton, thanks for joining us. you know that you're goingha toe called names for this, so rather than ask you, i will just give you a chance to explain why you're doing it. >> well, tucker, i get called names a lot. it doesn't bother me any. what does bother me is when you have woke politically correct liberals were trying to erase history. look at west point. west point is not just ary military academy. it is essentially a museum to the united states army and the cadets there need to learn about their history. that's why they have the line,

the portraits of every superintendent of west point. robert ely was one of those superintendents from 1852 to 1855. are we going to take that painting down and pretend that he wasn't a superintendent whenw he was still an officer in the united states army? or in the library, there are two grand portraits of ulysses s. grant and robert ely. the two great commanders in the confederacy who faced off against each other and fortunately u.s. grant one. what are we going to take down the lee portrait so when cadets are studying in that library they don't know who u.s. grant opposed, some fictitious opponent who can't be named like a harry potter villain? you know, if we taught these politically correct liberals a little more history, maybe they would realize that blm marxists and critical race theorists actually sound just like john c calhoun, the great 19th century defender of slavery, because they always reduce people to the

color of their skin. nothing but their race. they repudiate the deck -- they repudiate the principles of the declaration of independence and the statesmanship of abraham lincoln, which is one reason why -- you know, this summer they started carrying out statues of robert ely and stonewall jackson but pretty quickly they went on to statues of washington an end rejection and u.s. grant and abraham lincoln and when you're tearing down statues of lincoln and u.s. grant, it's not about thee confederacy or the civil war, it's because you hate america. >> tucker: let me ask you a broader question about the military, you of course have served overseas. the military is our most impressive institution precisely because it's a meritocracy. people from any background are judged on merit, that's why we revere it. there's a huge effort underway right now as you well know to change that.e and to make it not a meritocracy and to promote people -- recruit people based on irrelevant immutable characteristics. is there anything being done to keep the military elite and meritocratic to stop that?

>> well, it won't happen on my watch if i have anything to do about it.e you're right that the united states military is one place where you can go and it doesn't matter who you are or how rich or powerful youryo parents are or what you're standing is, in which you will only be held to the standards that you set for yourselves and that you can achieve and there is no chance, no chance that we canha continue to have the worls best military designed to keep us safe by preventing us from having to go to war the first place if we water down the standards for any politically correct reason. the only -- the only standard to which we should hold all of our soldiers and airmen and marines, the same standard for each and every one of them, the standard of excellence. >> tucker: us the promise of america. sohat' nicely put in a hope it remains in the military. m big effort to change that. senator cotton, great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thank you, tucker buried >> tucker: if joe biden takes power in january, what will happen? well, we got an indication of

that tonight. joe biden appears to be prepared to lock down the country again.l and even some of his supporters are not taking that news well at all. that's next. ♪ hould end. that's next.t.t.t.t.

♪ >> tucker: [indiscernible] that we may soon have a working coronavirus vaccine. you think that news would be greeted with joy on the democratic side. democrats believe vaccines are the answer to everything. e don't ask questions, just take a shot. but new york governor andrew cuomo had a very different reaction. he's worked hard to get his state of austria's bodyd count high, he doesn't want anyone, the white house, not big pharma, to get in the way of that. >> the bad t news is that it's about two months before joe biden takes over and that means this administration is going to be in plummeting a vaccine plan. you have two months and we can't let this vaccination plan go forward the way the trump administration is designing it, because biden can't undo it two months later. we will be in the midst of it. and i'm going -- i've been

talking to governors across the nation about that, how can we shape the trump administration vaccine plan to fix it or stop it before it does damage? >> tucker: oh, so we have the vaccine, but you can't have it because the orange man is still president. okay. back in april, when he didn't realize the vaccine might come out while trump was still president, he had a different reaction. here it is. >> well, when is this over?ve i say, personal opinion, it's over when we have a vaccine. it's over when people know i'm 100% safe and i don't have to worry about this. when does that happen? when we have a vaccine. >> tucker: dr. marc siegel is a fox news medical contributor and he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. i didn't realize who was presidentt determined the efficacy of a vaccine. >> tucker, it doesn't. this is the tale of two men.

we are going to start with the first man in there, the governor of new york, who is playing politics and is grandstanding and is saying it's bad news on what may end up being one of the most important days in the recent history of science. all of this work coming together, the public-private partnership, making a vaccine, now finding out it's 90% effective in late trials. such an exciting day and he's talking about shaping it or possibly locking it. that is the worst, because we already have a vaccine compliance problem in the united states. now let's contrast governor cuomo with another man. a man who came up through the ranks. a man who did it through hardo work, nose to the grindstone, didn't inherited from his family, mind you when he's worked and worked until eventually he became a four-star general and then f he became the head of supply for the entire armed forces and then, he was tapped by president trump to become the chief operating

officer of operation warp speed, and that man's name, remember this name, tucker, you know it. it's gus perna and we haven't heard enough about him. he is working behind the scenes on a program called tiberius, where just like the roman tiberius, he's looking at it from a computer point of view, so when the vaccine is deployed, that's right, deployed, he's going to be able to track it. we have a problem with this vaccine. it has to be stored at 80 degrees below zero centigra centigrade, but gore gus perna is on top of that and he's working with pfizer and pfizer already in place the plans for deploying this vaccine,or where it's going to go, where the supply chain is going to go andi gus perna was asked recently, four-star generalrn gus perna ws asked recently what are you going do, general, when the fda gives an emergency approval for this vaccine? and you know what the general said? one word, tucker buried execute.

execute. and he said within 24 hours the first batch of this vaccine is v going to be in the right place all around the country, stored with dry ice or potentially with liquid nitrogen, the facilities will be there, the clinics will be there, hospitals will be there, the [indiscernible] will be there. and you know what? i believe him. i have a question for you, tucker buried who are you going to believe? this governor who changeso his mind every second of the political winds, or the general? tucker, i choose the military in this country every time. tucker. >> tucker: dr. marc siegel, thank you so much. that is the question of who you're going to believe and whenever this vaccine does arrive, let's hope the people in charge slowly and calmly explained to us what it does, with the risks are, what the benefits are, and get buy-in from the public and calm everyone down before forcing us to take it. that's fair, it's a democracy. today something called the office of president-elect

joe biden named robert gordon it's team lead for matters relating to health and human services.un that man, robert gordon, could soon run this country foster gas pandemic response. who is he exactly? we should know. currently the director of the michigan department of health. gordon just released health guidelines for the people in the state of michigan ahead of thanksgiving. in those guidelines? well, keep your voices down, and your mask on in between bites. "take it off when you eat or drink, then put it back on." that's an order, by the way. meanwhile, joe biden has named michael ostrom, to run a virus -- to the coronavirus task force. >> it's going to be economically much, much cheaper for us to really deal with this lockedh down then it is to continue to watch these cases increase for the next 6-12 months.nt if we locked down, get better control like his other countries have done where they could basically live with the virus in

a very different way than we are right now, the only answer the falls going to be a challenge. >> tucker: it's going to be cheaper. keep in mind, this man is a doctor, not an economist, so take that with a grain of salt. but what is joe biden's plan to fight the coronavirus? over the weekend, a woman called naomi wealth, pretty famous democrat, if you're over 30 you are number her, became one of many joe biden supporters to rethink what is this about t exactly? naomis wolf wrote this. "if i'd known joe biden was open to lockdowns as he now states, something historically unprecedented in any pandemic, any terrifying practice, one that will never end because elites love it, i would have never voted for him. a surprisingly blunt, insightful and honest observation. our others coming to the same? alex berenson, updated examination of lockdowns.

just the man to talk to. lockdowns is a strategy. it is a lockdown the strategy that joe biden appears to be planning should he take control? >> well, he certainly has people who would like him to go that route, including michael auster home. in that clip, which i view before i came on with you, especially talks about what a wonderful job europe has done, which looks pretty good and how we should follow europe and locked down really hard. that looks pretty good in august, it doesn't look so good right now with france reporting yesterday the equivalent of 425,000 positive tests in the united states. by population in other words. in other words, the french and european numbers have been muche worse than the u.s. numbers recently. here's the broader point, tucker. lockdowns on the coronavirus have been inherently political from the beginning. i think is a very good case to be made that president trump would be coasting into a second term orin would have won a secod

term anyway if he had -- if he hadn't had the coronavirus and been punished for it by the media. so is biden takes office, as i think we all expect he's going to take office in ten weeks, republicans are going to really have to raise their voices i think. if we don't have rational lockdown -- if we don't -- if were not going to have national mask mandates, which is something else that biden has indicated he wants very aggressively, and in the weeks between now and january 20th, republicans are going to have to ecdecide what to do. are theyey going to have to figt what looks like a losing battle on behalf of donald trump are they going to -- i guess i should just say fight against covid restrictions because a lot of us on [indiscernible] are going to be depending on republicans at the national and the state level to push back. i said yesterday, i think desantis -- i didn't say i specifically but i think were public and governors and republican senators, i think

there should a covid task force that says here's what we think needs to be done, especially those governors were running big states that will be making these decisions. andrew cuomo can say he doesn'ti want vaccines. why can't ron desantis and other governors say here's what we think we should do and that's what we are going to do in our states whether you like it or not, joe biden. but if they're going to do that i don't see how t they fight for -- for donald trump to make a case of election fraud. i don't think theyas can do both those things. >> tucker: certainly like them to save the country from complete destruction from any of those threats, but certainly from a covid shutdown which is don't think anybody thinks is a good idea. naomi wolf is amazingly right. alex berenson, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: amazing! naomi wolf. never thought i would live long enough to say that sentence. andrew cuomo isn't simply the governor of new york, he is also something of a pinup model, the

chiseled lapse of his brother -- but pretty close. yesterday andrew cuomo let us know that he has a very tough man. very tough man! he put big orange on notice. we will show you the tape if you can stand it, next. ♪ ext. ♪

>> tucker: we opened last night's show by telling you about voter fraud during last week's election. it is real. we said we were going to keep track of's where that investigations are going, and we will. we will be doing it all day amorrow, we will bring you much meatier discussion. we want to bring up-to-date on a couple of developments, and pennsylvania state lawmakers are calling for a bipartisan investment committee with subpoena power to look into voter fraud there.re in florida, a woman who died in 2017 somehow managed to vote. no word on who she preferred. and in puerto rico, which democrats would like to make a state and will if they take the senate, officials have found 174

boxes of uncounted ballots.co not ballots, boxes of ballots. let's hope it is the 51st state to soon. so, there are a lot more stories like that. do they add up to a trend? maybe. we are going to have that report for you tomorrow because voter fraud always matters, no matter the outcome. if you accept voter fraud, he dismissed the basic premise of democracy. as promised, we want to end tonight on andrew cuomo, the governor of new york, trying to be the most masculine cuomo on television, he announced he was thinking about punching donald trump this year. sounds pretty tough, punching the president of the united states right in the face and he would have done it if he hadn't inherited his father's job as governor. watch. >> i needed him to help new york. that was my job. if i wasn't governor of new york i would have decked him, period. i mean, he was attacking me,

attacking my family, he was anti-italian, every nasty thing, you know. if i take away that word "governor" for 24 hours, i would have had a field day with him. >> tucker: [laughs] he's anti-italian now! everybody is an aggrieved victim, even governor cuomo. sean hannity is not, he's next. >> sean: i feel sorry for him. by the way, interesting stories about dead people voting. interesting. what free and fair elections will have confidence in. all right, tucker tucker, great show. welcome to "hannity." tonight, millions of americans, you do feel betrayed. according to "politico," look at this, 70% of republicans don't believe this election was free, fair, and for good reason. we saw blatant election law violations in state after state. we have watched them push six, 20, some even saying to cameras and now an affidavit, 100 feet away. mail-in ballots with no postmarks, laws blatantly