many of them are still struggling so i wanted to make sure that we agreed to the transition. a >> dana: it will be wonderful to see all you do. i will see you on "the five." bill hemmer? >> bill: dana, we'll see you at 5:00. thank you. is it a musical good monday everybody, good afternoon. i'm bill hemmer and the white house as our big wins in the fight against covid as cases are on the rise in just about every state. here's the great news, modernity says it's vaccine is nearly 95% effective based on early data. that company received billions of dollars on their operation warp speed on behalf of the trump administration and that has news sending the market soaring. the dow hitting record highs, looking at the dow at 13,000. plus there was this over the weekend.

[crowd noise] violence in the streets of the nation's capital after confrontations between president trump supporters and counter protesters, multiple people were arrested. rich edson look at what happened over the weekend plus operation warp speed on the vaccine news today. but we begin at the white house north along. >> president trump doing a little bit of "i told you so" after speech set moderna's announcement this morning. the president tweeted, another vaccine just announced this time by moderna, 95% effective for those a great "historians." please member these great discoveries that will end the china plague all took place on my watch. he also noted how the markets are reacting, the dow getting close to 30,000. the president tweeted the stock market getting close to 30,000 new vaccine news is 95% effective.

moderna's, getting some $2 billion in federal funding for its research. hhs secretary alex azar on that earlier today on fox, was in here. >> this is a vaccine that president trump partnered with moderna on january 13th at our nih labs. now over 90% effective vaccine and now we have pfizer, we have moderna and thanks to president trump's vision we have been making those under the vaccines at commercial scale productions. we believe we will have enough for a 20 million americans tipped of get vaccinated in december. >> bill: the target is to make vaccines available to every prison in america sometime either late march or early april. the president's bill made the vaccine part of his central vaccine insisting at every turn there would be tens of millions of doses that would be available to the most at risk and people on the front lines by the end of the year.

and that's the opportunity in the event that has challenged to the vote count does not pin out. >> and john roberts the white house. good day to you, and thank you for your time. fda approval come next. as john was detailing, what is available and how is it available? >> the news is very exciting, 95%, for this vaccine end at 94% for the pfizer vaccine. there are very similar outcomes and they concern each other. they both will be fighting for emergency authorization with the fda within the next week. we can have the two weeks and the fda will need a week or ten days or so to review to assess the data thousands and thousands

of data. we approve the emergency authorization or not. once approved the cdc and its advisory board will recommend the vaccine for use in certain populations and at that moment we are ready and prepared to start distributing enough vaccine doses during the month of december 2 immunize about 20 million of the u.s. population. >> bill: 20 million in december? >> yes. 20 million, we will have 40 million doses in december, and it's too doses for each immunization. then on an ongoing basis month on month we will have about enough to immunize 25 million people with these two vaccines. there are more vaccines in the pipeline that should come to fruition hopefully in the same

way that the pfizer vaccine came. it probably in the february or march time frame be approved and then that vaccine probably -- >> bill: to all the men and women working on that in washington, pass our congratulations, we've been waiting a long time for this. now you can see there would be other vaccines. now watching a member of joe biden's potentially incoming team in the white house, i didn't hear much different from him. i would just play a quick sound bite from chris wallace's interview. >> that's a measure of last resort. if we mock down the entire country without targeting our effort and we are going to exacerbate the pandemic fatigue, we have to approach this with the precision of a scalpel rather than the blunt force of an ax.

>> bill: i don't know if you disagree with that but in philadelphia they are saying no more indoor gatherings. how do we find this balance? does the biden team have anything planned that you and others in washington have been doing already? >> i don't know what the biden team is deciding. that's accelerating the development and making them available, and i believe that it's very important that each one of us acknowledge that we need to protect our ascents and protect the people around us that we love and care for and that therefore there are masks, wash her hands and keep our distance. and a great news, soon we will also be able to get immunized and once the large majority of the population will be immunized, i believe we will be able to come back to her normal life. and that's really what we are focusing on. >> bill: i have to think even you are surprised at how quickly

this happened. >> while it was in my wildest dream. i was thinking leave the vaccine would be 80 or 90% efficacious. now we are 90 and 95% and i have to say this is exhilarating. if you look more into the specifics of the data there are 11 cases of severe disease in the placebo group and zero cases in the vaccine group and then return a trial meaning the vaccine is highly, highly effective against severe disease. it's effective in older people, there were many volunteers that were over the age of 65 that got disease that were protected so it's really excellent data. most likely also on the pfizer vaccine on the line. >> i know you are anxious to get that done and so are we. we thank you for your time today and congratulations. more to come.

>> [crowd noise]. >> bill: so that is just a sample of the violent confrontations between trump supporter's and counter protesters after saturday's million march, police in washington saying they arrested at least 20. rich edson has a more from washington, d.c., on what happened and what happens now. >> good afternoon. saturday happened largely in different phases, the first was a peaceful protest downtown along pennsylvania avenue and as i ended, the groups fanned out into downtown d.c. and that's where the pro-trump crowd and the anti-trump groups found each other and it did in many cases turned violent. the day did start with tens of thousands of trump supporter's gathered at freedom plaza at the white house. they say they came from town as

far away as florida, texas, west virginia, all across the country. president trump even greeted the crowd, driving his motorcade around the plaza and on way to golf and virginia. after some chanting and dancing, the crowd marched down about a mile and a half to the supreme court, many marched back and as night fell they went into downtown d.c. and that's where they especially groups like this but with the anti-trump crowd. there was shouting from bullhorns it and tearing down of black lives matter posters and outbreaks of fighting throughout downtown d.c. >> the rest of it for me was to see our country having those types of physical disputes over an election and that's something we attribute to other countries across the world but we don't see that here in the united states united states about the worst of it for me. >> d.c. police say there was a very little property damage and

a lot of downtown d.c. is still boarded up or for protection on those election night protest that they were expecting here in washington. as for the back and forth for the main event, he did have a number of counter protesters holding up signs that said trump lost or-harris. there was plenty of jarring back-and-forth but nothing that we saw that turned physical during that event. >> bill: a breaking news months ago, fox news confirming preparations are underway to draw down more forces in iraq and afghanistan. plus fighting for power in congress, both sides sending in a lot of political heft. as senator tom cotton will weigh in on that. also did you see this interview? those trump campaign election claims can be a big part of our show. we have more on the politics and eric erickson is in georgia on

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how do these races look as of today which with about a month and three weeks to go? >> chuck schumer and set the stakes of this race very clearly. at first we take georgia and then we change the world. chuck schumer does not view this as an election in which the georgian voters are going to make the decision but somehow, he and his rich donors from new york and silicon valley can take and use it to change the world to come to do things likes pack the supreme court and make washington, d.c., a state. it raise your taxes and take your guns. there is no end to the crazy left-wing agenda that rafe warnock will help enact. that's why they will take a stand on generally for four both of them. >> bill: i don't know how this factors into it but apparently joe biden will make a trip down there. we will see if donald trump did it. how do you weigh those factors do you think it really january? >> i think the people of georgia will very clearly vote for republican senate.

the people of georgia do not want to send it john soft -- to the united states senate to empower chuck schumer. they've been great for the state of georgia and been strong on crime and our border, they've always defended george's large military president and, this has been very interesting. it was a lot tighter than the general election but it's not necessarily apples to apples. breaking news senator that came out about an hour ago, there will be a drawdown of troops by mid-january iraq and afghanistan that with about 3,000 in iraq and 2,000 thereabouts in afghanistan. the acting secretary christopher

miller said this. it's the antithesis of everything which we stand for. all wars must end. we gave it our all and now it's time to come home. >> i've seen those reports but i don't want to speculate, and they are still not openly disclosed in some of these countries. chris miller is right, he himself is a decorated green beret with many deployments behind him and ultimately it's up to the people of afghanistan and the people of iraq to track their own course. that led to the rise of the islamic state and threatening americans, but for a long term our biggest threat in the world is not in the middle east, it's china.

we need to take steps necessary around the world to posture our forces to deter china in communist aggression. >> bill: senator, a lot to digest there. we were not interrupted, it is joe biden now at the microphone with kamala harris. >> mary kay henry, president of the sci you. lee saunders, and sonia single. richard trumpka president of the afl-cio. it was really encouraging quite frankly to get business and labor together, green on the way forward. which i'm convinced people are willing to devote when they hear what we have in mind. i'm very pleased it all came together around the same table, to advance areas of common ground and we agree we will continue these conversations. they represent very different

perspective but i'm convinced that we can all come together around the same table to advance areas of common ground which are really -- i wish you could have heard the conversation, it was really encouraging. and that's what we are ready to discuss today. we all agree we want to get the economy back on track and we need our workers to be back on the job by getting the virus under control. we are going in to a very dark winter and things will get much tougher before they get easier. we can open our businesses safely. we can resume our lives and put this pandemic behind us, it will be difficult but it can be done. they all agree, that means rallying the country behind a national strategy with robust public health majors and that's therapeutics and safe equitable redistribution in the vaccine.

getting the vaccine and a vaccination are two different things. the sooner we have access to communications distribution plan the center of this transition would be smoothly moving forward. you know as we battle covid, we also make sure that business have the tools and resources and national guidance and health and safety standards to operate safely and we can do that. we can bring democrats and republicans together. work with businesses and labor. they have lost their jobs and we can all deliver immediate relief. affordable health care for millions of people who have lost it, or in danger of losing it.

child care, sick leave, family leave so workers don't have to choose between work and family. corporate america agreed this today. we need support of small businesses and entrepreneurs, they are the backbone of our community but are teetering on the edge. we all agreed for on the urgent needs for states and localities to keep front-line workers and census workers on the job. vital public services running law enforcement offices, educators, first responders, like we did in the report comic recovery act of 2009. there is a reason why the federal government is able to run a deficit, because the states must come must balance the budgets. they will seek hundreds of thousands of police officers, firefighters and first responders, you will see

them going out of business. right now congress should come together and pass a covid relief package like the heroes act that the house passed six months ago. once we shut down the virus and deliver economic commute to workers and businesses then we can start to build that better than ever before. i wish it could have heard corporate leaders and major labor leaders singing this from the same hymnal. and that and also we talked about, 550,000 charging stations

creating over a million a good paying union jobs here at home. waiting for the federal government to invest more in clean energy research. it's based on simple premise. it's time to reward work and not just wealth in america. we will have a fair tax structure and make sure the wealthiest among us incorporations pay our fair share. we create millions of good paying union jobs in manufacturing, building vehicl vehicles, projects and technologies. from autos to stockpiles, we are going to ply b buy american. to secure our position as a global leader research and development, we will invest $300 million in the most critical competitive new

industries for the call that they all agree. we can make sure that our future is needed here in america. and that is good for business, that's good for american workers. you can also modernize infrastructure. 1.5 new affordable housing uni units. high-speed broadband, we talked about for every american household. it's more important than ever for remote learning and remote working, telemedicine. building a digital infrastructure to help businesses, first responders and students. $100 billion to rebuild our crumbling schools. we talked about the need to come the business community, and retrofitting old buildings,

making them new. building more climate recently than cities and towns. these investments will specifically target communities of colors and in the good times they lagged in the bad times, and these are the kind of investments that will strengthen our economy and create millions of union jobs and in doing so, respected dignity and work. my dad when he lost his job, he got a good job, it's about more than your paycheck. it's about dignity, respect, and everything is going to be okay. we build back better, we will do so with higher wages including a

$15 minimum wage nationwide, better benefits, stronger collective bargaining rights to raise a family on. that's how we build back the middle class better than ever. that's how we make sure your workers are treated with dignity and respect they deserve. i could tell you that i was very encouraged by our conversation. there's only so much we can do and only way we do any of this is when we work together. i know we can do this. for example on the call, i made it clear to the corporate leaders, i said i want you to know i'm a union guy. unions will have increased pow power. it's not antibusiness, it's about economic growth creating good paying jobs. 11 years ago when barack and i took office during the great recession, and we didn't see a

map in red and blue states. it was the united states of america. we didn't care whether the city had voted for us or against us. we work with everyone and we recovered and rebuilt together as one nation. we can't do this again. it's not due to some mysterious force beyond our control, it's a conscious decision, it's a choice that we make. if we can decide not to cooperate, then we decide to cooperate. i believe this is in part a mandate for the american people, part of the mandate they gave us. they want us to cooperate. they want us to deliver results. and the choice that we will make is we are going to do that. that's why i'm so pleased today that we were able to bring together business and labor

leaders to make the choice jointly with us. we are all americans. now let's get to work. as i've said many times, thank you, may god bless you and may god protect our troops. i understand now i will take questions, megan, fire away. >> thank you president-elect biden. i want to ask you a question about your pandemic planning and then your economic plan. you spoke about the need to access the outgoing administration's covid vaccine distribution plan, what do you see is the biggest threat to your distribution right now given trumps unprecedented attempt to disrupt and delay the transfer of power? >> more people may die if we don't coordinate. look. as my chief of staff would say,

the vaccine is important. it's no use until you are vaccinated. so how do you get the vaccine, how do we get over 300 million americans vaccinated, what's the game plan? it's a huge, huge undertaking to get it done and prioritize those greatest in need and working our way through it and also cooperate. and they say they had this warp speed program that they not only dealt with getting vaccines but also how to distribute comic distribute this. if we have to wait until generally 22 start that planning it puts us behind over a month, month and a half. it's important that it be done with coordination. now as rapidly as we can get that done. >> the economy, the vice president elect talked about having the economy that works for working people. one thing i didn't hear you talk about specifically is canceling

student loan debt. the student loan forgiveness figure in your plan and would you take executive action to achieve it? >> it does figure into my plan. i've called for immediate $10,000 forgiveness of student loans. it's holding people up, they are in real trouble. it should be done immediately. everything from community college through community pell grants to make sure we have access and there's a program for engaging in public service. that will be able to be available to everyone that is in fact engaged, it's not being very well-managed right now.

so i'm going to do it for all of us. thank you. >> thank you mr. president-elect. you just spoke of dangers but it doesn't appear the president is going to come around anytime soon and admit defeat. so what are you going to do? what options do you have two ensure that you are ready to go on day number one? >> do what every individual in the country from business to labor, republicans to democrats, to try to pull together a serious and consistent plan so we are ready on day one. everyone from staffing to moving along on coordinating with business and labor. at the covid attack, how we will attack covid. so it would make it a lot easier if the president worked to participate. you have a number of republicans

suggesting that. the good news is my colleague is on the intelligence community. so that is, there's a number of republicans calling for that. i'm hopeful that the president will be mildly more enlightened before we get to january 20th. >> what is your memo to republicans, you clearly need to work with them going forward. >> president-elect biden: my messages i will work with you, i understand a lot of your reluctance because of the way the president operates. but i've been in contact with more of them as we move along. if it has to wait until januar

january 20th to actually become operational, that's a shame. but maybe that's the only way to get it done. thank you very much. >> thank you very much mr. president-elect. i want to kind of piggyback off of that. i want to get your thoughts on the president's tweet over the weekend where he first seemed to acknowledge that you won, he said he won't concede and he said, i won. how did you interpret that and at the end of the day how do you want him to concede? >> president-elect biden: i interpret that as trump-ism. no mode of change in his modus operandi. i'm having a lot of meetings with world leaders on the telephone. i can get in and negotiate with him about things that will be done but they are calling with some degree of enthusiasm,

everyone from the holy father to prime ministers across the glo globe. so we are moving along knowing what the outcome will be. as i said earlier, i probably shouldn't repeat it but i find it more embarrassing for my ability to get started. >> secondly i want to follow-up with you on the vaccine. if the fda gives the emergency authorization to the pfizer or moderna vaccine in the next couple of weeks, will you get vaccinated? and if you are hesitant, why should any american have confidence in the vaccine? >> president-elect biden: first of all we will see if that comes forward. secondly i wouldn't hesitate to get the vaccine.

but i also want to set an example. but i wouldn't hesitate to get the vaccine if in fact dr. fauci and at least two more organizations whether it's moderna or pfizer who have been extremely responsible conclude that it's safe and able to be done. look. the only reason that people question the vaccine now is because of donald trump. that's the reason why people are questioning the vaccine, because of everything he does, is it true for not truthful? i think we are on a clear path, with the international community and international leaders in the scientific community have focused on these two vaccines. they appeared to be ready for prime time and if that continues on, i would take the vaccine.

>> thank you mr. president-elect. you've been urging the american public to continue practicing social distancing and wearing a mask but with cases skyrocketing across country do you think that more governors should be closing nonessential businesses and reinstating stay reinstating stay-at-home orders? >> president-elect biden: it depends on the state. what i failed to mention earlier is the enormous amount of respect that i have for conservative governors. and in addition to the folks,

and existing remaining advisor on covid that saying that they should resist. what is the matter with these guys. what is the matter with them? resist. and we could save a hundred thousand lives. it's totally irresponsible so i complement the governors who stepped forward and have been stepping forward and i left out the governor of utah.

an alternate democratic i'm just asking a rhetorical question, do you guys understand this? does anyone understand why a governor would turn this into a political statement? it's about patriotism. it's about being patriotic. it's about saving lives, for real. not hyperbole. it's about being patriotic. and i think we are seeing more and more that as this god-awful virus continues to spread almost unabated that governors are stepping up. >> following up on that with many states reporting new highs in terms of the daily numbers of cases and public official sounding the alarm, what --

would you urge people to reconsider their plans? >> president-elect biden: it's not because i'm unique as president-elect, it's because of my family. they strongly urge that if, in fact, we are going to have thanksgiving with anyone, they are limited to a maximum. they suggest five people, maximum five people socially distance with masts and have quarantined. jill and i spent this morning, like many of you, trying to figure out what are we going to do for thanksgiving? how are we going to do it? and would narrow down which family members and that they were tested, recently tested, within 24 hours. so i would strongly urge for the sake -- not just your sake but the sake of your children, your mother, your father, your sister

and your brothers, there should be no more than ten people in one room and inside the home. that's what they are telling me. they are telling me, making sure that's the case. i have this more potent mask, being masked saves lives. so look. so i just want to be sure we are able to be together next thanksgiving and next christmas. i mean, it is an international crises. all kidding aside i hope all of you, and the group that follows

me, that is assigned to delaware with me, it seems to do that. i strongly urge you to do it. there's nothing macho about not wearing a mask. >> thank you. >> thank you mr. vice president elect. your plan that you've outlined just now about a million union jobs, clean energy jobs, investment in hbcus, those are things that take time. we have a problem with long-term unemployment that's growing fast right now. what would you do right away specifically to address jobs that may not return for months, may not return ever including in

communities of color? >> president-elect biden: what i would do is pass the heroes act. we have the money and capacity to take care of each of those things. not tomorrow but now. the idea that the president is still playing golf and not doing anything about it is beyond my comprehension. at least you think he would want to go out on a positive note. but what are you doing. there's virtually no discussion. the republicans, we are told to come i don't know, there's too? there is 22 republicans that so they would vote for anything. there ought to be at least a dozen of them that have the courage to stand up and to save lives and jobs. now, we should be doing it now, keeping those businesses open and providing the ppe, the protective equipment as well as the ppp, the money that we allow people to get funding to keep

businesses open, everything from separation to testing to a whole range of things that would allow businesses to open and stay open. that's what the plan was at the beginning. if you notice in the very beginning when you pass the stimulus program, first to pieces, what happened? businesses were staying open. when they weren't open they were still able to get people paid. but look where they are now. 20 million people are on the verge of losing your home because they can't make the mortgage payments. they have a larger number being kicked out, that will be kicked out in the street because they can't pay the rent. by the way it's not just the renter, it's the outfit that owns the building. a lot of multimillionaires run small operations, how do they do it? this is about keeping americans

afloat. get them through this pandemic come get them through -- they the businesses are able to come back. >> also on the economic front as we fight the pandemic, world trade continues and there is great debate over world trade agreements. it seems that in the last couple of days, 15 countries asian, pacific countries have signed onto a a new trade deal. they are cpe. should the united states consider joining that trade agreement? >> president-elect biden: i talked with a number of these world leaders and he told them under the law and not able to begin a discussion with them. there's only one president at a time as to who can say what our policy will be. so i'm reluctant to answer that question now but here's what i can say. we make up 25% of the world's

trading capacity of the economy. we need it to be aligned with the other democracies, another 25% or more. so that we can set the rules of the road instead of having china and others dictate outcomes because they were the only game in town. and so what i'm insisting on and what i have been asked by world leaders as to what i would do without getting into detail, i said, i want you to know that three things will happen if i'm elected. one, we will invest in american workers and make them more competitive. number two, we will make sure that labor is at the table and environmentalists are at the table and any trade deals we make. and i'm not looking for that. the idea that we are poking our finger in the eyes of our friends and embracing autocrats makes notes sense to me. i'm reluctant to get into more detail at this moment. i promise you i have a pretty

thorough plan and i'm prepared to announce that to you on january 21st. >> you have indicated changes you want to make. >> yes. i didn't get into the detail of what we will do with that agreement and same thing with redoing, rejoining the world health organization. >> why not here? >> you are asking me about when i joined a specific proposal, the details of which are only being negotiated among those nations. they require a negotiation. >> thank you. >> bill: it you've been the president-elect joe biden if all things legal challenges fail, i will bring in andy mccarthy to address that in a moment. you've been in not watching what amounts to a bit of a lovefest at the media. at the beginning of the outset joe biden said we are going into a a dark winter and then he

recommended no more than ten americans in a single room for thanksgiving. let's bring in marc thiessen and mo elleithee. by my count, here with the questions, if the president doesn't give up, what are you going to do? one reporter called it unprecedented blocking of the transition plan, not true. another question, will you get the vaccination? what did you think of the president's tweet on saturday and a question of whether or not families should get together for turkey day. an>> the reality is he didn't get -- i wish wolf blitzer had been there, remember when he grilled nancy pelosi about why wouldn't you take $1.8 trillion that the white house has offered an covid relief and she said, you are carrying water for donald trump again. we are where the questions like that?

he's talking about the desperate need that people have for covid relief. the white house offered $1.8 trillion in covid relief and nancy pelosi said no. why would you not just take that money? let's say you thought you were going to win the election, you have the white house and congress and a few months. why not take the 1.8 trillion and the answer is, the only reason is she thought it would help donald trump. she even said the only thing trump wants is his name on a check. she's going to deny that money to businesses that are going under and people whose unemployment is expiring because she cared more about hurting donald trump in helping those people. okay, that succeeded, he won the election. don't pass it down. >> bill: 1.8 trillion is a big pile of money. what do you think about what we just watched here? >> a couple of things. i actually agree with mark, i wish they had gotten some questions about what the

congress is going to do moving forward. because i do think it is important for congress to feel a little bit of pressure. it's a huge gap between -- i don't know how deep he would have gone, but if the current president who over the weekend push for congress to do something, maybe you would see a little bit more movement here especially with the huge gap between the what the house democrats want and the senate republicans want. even the outgoing president wants more than the senate republicans do. >> bill: mr. mcconnell had a $500 billion proposal, to help a lot of people right now. it went nowhere. >> passe. take 500 billion coptic 1 trillion.

take 1.8 trillion, whatever it is. it doesn't require every republican to vote and everyone who has worked on capitol hill knows, if enough republicans get behind it to pass, even if it's not the entire republican caucus. the democrats have been blocking this for months. and they don't want to -- >> no, no, no. >> he doesn't want donald trump to have a signing for covid relief before he leaves office or they would be passing right now. there's no reason she's insisting on 2.6 trillion. >> i appreciate you letting mark finished his point and i'd like to finish my now. i think the president has called for more funding than the senate republicans. why can't the senate republicans listen to their own president here? there's a much narrower gap to negotiate between what the president wants and what the house democrats want and i bet we would find a place to settle on that. the senate republicans haven't been interested in that.

so now back to what the president-elect said, he made a couple of important points. the point about getting pulled into the transition and getting some briefings on where we are with covid is important and i think he needs to keep pushing that. in answering the question about whether or not he would take a vaccine and saying if from a dharna and dr. fauci say it's safe, i think that is an important signal because the polling shows there's a lot of americans out there right now that are skittish about taking a vaccine. having the president-elect out there saying i will take it, with the science signing off on it, it might get us closer to getting people that would regain trust. >> bill: i have to wrap this, i've got 15 seconds, make it quick. >> operational warp speed is possibly one of the best and this was done in a matter of

months. maybe the president-elect not to give the president if united states credit for that and tell people to take the vaccine, it safe. >> bill: we spoke with the task force earlier this hour and even they are impressed with what they have done. congratulations to the men and women on that team. we have to roll onto another topic right now, this is from sunday. >> we are fixing to overturn the results of the election in multiple states and president trump won by not just hundreds of thousands of votes but by millions of votes that were shifted by the software that was designed expressly for that purpose. >> bill: that sidney powell who has been the attorney for the president claiming they have evidence of voter fraud and she's tying it to a company called dominion. the company denies all fraud accusations and the company does not -- fox news has not seen any evidence. andy, good day to you.

i don't know if we are in a different situation now than we were last thursday when we talked but i saw the interview with sidney powell and maria. on sunday, she sounded convincing. so what now? >> now is evidence. at a certain point in time it doesn't help anymore to say a lot of things are rife with possibility for fraud. december 8th is the safe harbor provision in federal law where they have to certify their electoral votes. if you want to block that from happening it's put up or shut up time. >> bill: when does that happe happen? >> it either happens promptly or it doesn't happen all and if it doesn't happen all then joe biden will be certified as the next president of the united states. >> bill: it but and others,

that's so. in which they find themselves. so are they doing that now and what or when is our obligation to share that with the public? >> presumably according to what sidney powell said they are building and collecting evidence. she said it was like getting it out of a fire hose. in the meantime people on the other side of this have gone public including some of the people who have been implicated in the remarks made by sidney powell and others and they say it's not true. so i think if you want to have credibility you have to refute that with hard evidence. they should get their opportunity to do this in court but normally you don't get into court but something like this unless you have some solid evidence. >> bill: so they are saying the company dominion has a software called smart medic. would you need a computer software engineer to go in there and decipher that for us and put

it on a sheet of paper and explain it to us? >> you might but you're more fundamental problem is smart medic's, it's not true. now i don't have a way of knowing or brokering that claim of whether it's true or not true but all i know is one party that would have direct knowledge since it's not true in the other party which is the presiden president's -- he keeps saying we are gathering evidence but not putting anything on the table. >> bill: in the meantime the clock is ticking and people are wondering what's next. >> december 8 this coming fast and furious and even before we get there some of the states begin to certify the results. once we hit that point, that's the end of it.

so they either have to give courts a reason to say we need to cut off discount and take a harder look at this or it's time to stop. >> bill: thank you andy. andy mccarthy.ti georgia is counting right now, we will see what they come upca with. . .

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♪ neil: forget about one vaccine coming down the pike. what about two? hello everybody, this is neil and this is "your world." moderna says it has a vac soon potential candidate that is almost 95% effective on on top of the news out of pfizer that has one better than 90% effective. it was good enough to put the dow into record territory and a host of other market averages we will get into that in a second. the optimism here is that there might be a cure for this thing and sooner rather than later. the devil is always in the details and what's approved for emergency use and what's approved for well just everybody's use in the weeks and months ahead because both companies argue that they're