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a suffering on main street. >> it's happening now, my frie friend. we are learning right now in georgia, no sign of rampant voter fraud in the state. final counts tomorrow night will not interrupt what i'm told is a joe biden win. here comes "the five." >> hello, everyone, i'm one williams along with kennedy, jesse williams and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." big attack on trial, clashing jack dorsey and mark zuckerberg facing a barrage of allegations, censorship and election interference. on the social media giant blocking a new york post story about hunter biden just before the election.
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take a look. >> if you are not a newspaper, at twitter for facebook, then why do you have editorial control over posts? that to me seems like you are the ultimate editor. >> you do realize that by taking down that story could but probably gave it more prominence and more visibility than if you left it alone? >> we realize that and we recognize it as a mistake. >> senator josh hawley pressing mark zuckerberg on a whistle-blower complaint alleging facebook coordination with google on censorship. >> the platform reflects censorship input with google and twitter, facebook's teams communicate with their counterparts in google and enter
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those company suggestions for censorship on to the task platform so that facebook and follow up with them and effectively coordinate their efforts. esther zuckerberg, let me ask you directly under oath, does facebook moderate its moderation policies or an any way with gooe and twitter? >> we do signal on security related topics but that is the statement of content moderation policies that other policies have. >> senator ted cruz going after his dumb credit colleagues. >> there was a time when democrats embraced and defended the principles of free speech pair there is a time where democrats defended the pins of a free press. yet there is an absolute silence from democrats speaking up for the press athletes censored by big tech. >> what did you think?
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let me try to hone in a bit. normally -- >> don't push us in a box, one >> but typically that is conservative orthodoxy. you have people saying, wait a minute, that hunter biden story got more attention because the social media outlets said it was hacked and we've got questions -- >> i'm not so sure about that but carry on. here's what i think. i want to know what these guys are taking before these hearings. zuckerberg, dorsey. they are completely tranquilized. next time i'm going in a big meeting when i'm getting my head blown off, i'm getting one of those things. pop a big tech. and go, okay, we are working on that. next year. i needed one on november 4th. here's what i think.
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when you combine big tech with big media, what that does is big tech makes someone like biden bullet proof and the big media i think attacks trump what, 95% of the time. so you gave the democratic nominee for president a shield to protect himself. >> is this the hunter biden story? >> yes. you give him a source in big media to attack his opponent with. they are basically untouchable. any democrat with that kind of protection needs to win every time and indeed that type of health. if you look at the donations coming out of silicon valley, joe biden and big tech with his campaign, 95% of the donations coming out of silicon valley went to joe biden, the super pacs and individual donations. so joe biden and kamala harris, they owe big tech. you don't give that kind of money to a politician and not
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expect special access, special favors but they already going to write the rules and that's why he's loaded up with silicon valley executives of the minute they smell some regulation coming out of the house or senate, those lobbyists are going to lather up these politicians with donations, take them on hunting trips, put their spouses on board, that's how it goes on. >> i hear your point. >> i have more. >> i'm sure you have more because you come prepared. >> i could go deeper. >> dana, on any given day -- >> jacques cousteau. >> it's no scuba diving. >> now you're embarrassing me. >> on any given day, facebook, twitter, according to all the metrics, dominated by conservatives. ben shapiro, dan bongino, charlie kirk. how serious are we supposed to take these claims of censorship?
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>> serious enough that these guys have been called up to justify three times for 2020, a point for this, where is this going? i will start that. almost the same hearing every time. they get the tranquilizer dart, they show up. i thought it was interesting today that google didn't come. >> did you search for them? [laughter] >> amazing comeback! but youtube has also been accused of bias against conservative amongst other things, not taking down things like the andy dandy parker, the father of allison who was killed on live television, that video is still up and he has asked youtube to take it down. has reasons not to. there are lots of these bear but i wonder where this is going. you can see the possibility of something like a josh hawley and elizabeth warren getting to the same conclusion of what they want to have happen with these
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companies but for very different reasons. i do think content decisions have hurt conservatives in some cases. john james, the republican senate candidate in michigan, he lost but not by much. here is an ad the democrats cut talking about health care. they cut it deceptively and edited it so it seemed like he didn't care about conditions. they wouldn't label it so would spread everywhere. the tv experts in michigan started using it and it wasn't fair. twitter is quick to label something deceptive on the republican side or it feels that way and that's what they were trying to get at today. the senator from hawaii suggested that because media matters has done a report suggesting that there is no bias against conservatives on social media that we are all supposed to take that very seriously and the last thing i will say is that twitter and facebook have done this extended
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add band after the election but you have these elections in georgia, now the democrats are mad because they get fund-raising through their facebook ads. nobody is making much sense, i don't think, on capitol hill on either side. >> some conservatives are calling for moves to new platforms, move away from these platforms, create what i think of as safe cases for conservatives. i consider that might be doomed to fail because you wouldn't have liberals to argue with and beat up on. >> i created my own -- i guess, i didn't really message for it on locals because i didn't want to be canceled. i have a wall and you could call it a safe space. but actually allows me to say whatever the f i want. it just prevents people from trying to destroy my life which is what they do on twitter.
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you say you think they are on drugs, i just want to say why the most powerful people in the world looks so odd. on one set you got father time and the other you got shades of gerbil. these are the people controlling our lives. i look at what's his name, jack, his beard? that's got to be where the suspended tweets go. look at hunter biden, 90% of the time, it is in that beard. the big concern for me is that we've already given up on academia, entertainment, in media. it's all overwhelmingly left. every study shows 90% liberal. are we willing to give up on these social platforms? when you look at these studies and you mention, what, the study of midterm political contributions of $200 or more, for netflix, 96% went to democrats, right? twitter, 98.7%.
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google 96%. what happens when you deal with people who are that bias, they are more welcome to suppressing other political opinions appear generally if you're in the middle of the road, when you are 99%, you aren't going to let anybody there and the answers a question on why all of the policing of problematic tweets go one way. because if you are 99% left, you don't see any problem with the problematic tweets, the lies, the disinformation coming in the direction that you enjoy. anybody else, you've got to stamp that out. that's the problem. i have no solutions. >> we appreciate your perspective. >> do you really? >> there you go. kennedy, i'm listening and thinking to myself about social media can be poisonous. i see bullying, misinformation, outright lies, profanity. i don't like this. is it too late to unring this bell? are we captive of social media
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in this age? >> yes until we go live in the shire, we are captive. the only thing that'll hasten the demise of social media and this may be the sweetest karmic thing about it, 15-year-old girls. i happen to have birthed one and i listen to her conversations with her friends and they think that facebook is for really old people. and twitter is for middle age people who in their minds, they are old people. even instagram is on its way out and right now snapchat is the big thing, but can you imagine in industry this big whose dominant who can be hasted by teenage girls? imagine if the oil industry were to completely collapse on itself because a bunch of 14-year-olds are like, "i don't know?" why is gas even a thing?" we hav but where consensus becae that may be detrimental when you have a lis elizabeth warren andd
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ahead by 13,000. this fee campaign say what happened in georgia is why election campaigns need to go forward. >> this hand recount where they found 2600 additional votes? that's 2600 georgians who almost didn't have their voice heard in the presidential election. this is another step towards us to be able to make sure that this is a free and fair election, that we can trust the results. >> dana: let's take it around. kennedy? >> kennedy: we have to do something and i'm not just talking about this race. people should be confident their votes will be counted, they won't be accidentally lost, i do not think these challenges are going to undo the results of this presidential election. there is too much weirdness into many states, but presidential georgia, pennsylvania, lock it up. not lock her up. >> dana: one williams, what do you have? >> juan: you can easily rag on me. he is a trump fan
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he's not a trump fan, a conservative lawyer, jay christian adams but he said that the bottom line, trumps legal team needs proof and he doesn't have it. andy mccarthy, some we all know well. "you aren't getting away about a claim with a few votes that won't change the election outcome." here is chris krebs, the trump guy leading the cybersecurity effort. fraud claims are unsubstantiated in this election. karl rove, they all say that this election is not going to be changed. i think this is a charade. >> jesse: i will see that and i will raise you stacey abrams, al gore, "the new york times" and jimmy carter who said that there is a lot of fraud with mail in ballots. i'm looking at the georgia situation and it looks really screwy. they find ballots weren't counted in the machine. all of a sudden there was a project veritas video out, guys
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saying they are counting trump votes for biden. they can't match the signatures because they threw the envelopes away. it's very suspicious and you had a case in texas, it will been hit with 134 indictments for voter fraud. she was falsely registering senior citizens at a home to get their naked ballots and fill them out erroneously. same thing happened in l.a. county. 41 counts of voter fraud, two guys. you don't do that because you love joe biden or you love to cheat, you do it because you get paid by someone in that's how these things happen in these big city democrat machines. >> dana: last one to you, greg? >> greg: naked ballots... i think it's irrelevant if it changes the election or not. it's irrelevant if you called arizona and it turned out arizona won. it's not about right or wrong, it's about if you trust the
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process and you disrespect the voter which is what the kennedy said in the beginning but i do t think my vote has been counted. i voted in new york and what i heard millions of votes haven't been counted yet which is interesting. the other argument that this is somehow undermining democracy which is hilarious given the last four years that we've gone through. the democrats accusing trump on undermining democracy after their four your escapade is like ted bundy criticizing your table manners. they have turned this whole thing upside down. you guys can probably indulge the trump administration and the republicans a couple of weeks. it has only been two weeks. kick the tires. we should do this once in a while especially mail-in voting will probably be a huge part of all future elections. let's use this opportunity and lastly they are claiming that there is no cheating and on the other side of their mouth they are talking about californians
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coming to georgia to help influence the georgia election. if you are going to travel a thousand -- how many miles is it? >> kennedy: 2500. >> greg: because it's a moral crusade? you are going to cheat. you will cheat! of course you are going to che cheat. >> juan: you think that is real? come on. >> greg: i believe everything i hear... speed to a new report says california lawmakers are taking a lavish trip to hawaii while the state is in lockdown orders and that's only one example. ♪ here. ♪
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more restrictions on 94% of residents. there is governor gavin newsom apologizing for breaking his own covid rules by going to a fancy french restaurant. >> i made a bad mistake. instead of sitting down, i should have stood up. i got home then so i want to apologize to you because i need to preach and practice, not just preach. >> jesse: do you know who is not apologizing? new york governor andrew cuomo. >> we will have made mistakes in life. we will try not to but we do. the key is to be strong and secure enough to admit your mistakes and admit your shortcomings. don't get defensive. denying the mistake only ensures repeating the mistake.
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>> jesse: greg, if your state re-locks down big time, who can afford to fly to hawaii? people with a lot of cash. >> greg: one great thing about the lockdown is it reveals why people get into politics in the first place and become immune from the policies that they put on us. think about war, if your dad is a powerful politician, you probably won't get drafted if we had a draft or maybe you would be able to get in an interest-free loan for a house or maybe you get a really cushy job somewhere because your dad had to pull some strings. we don't know about that stuff because politics, they placed a wall between the public and the secret power that they hold and that's one of the neat things about trump is he pulled that wall away. you learned about hunter biden. the lockdowns revealed the hypocrisies of newsom, lori lightfoot -- >> kennedy: andrew cuomo.
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>> greg: you violate the rules you place on others. you can't do that anymore because we all see it. >> jesse: it's tough when you see these people egregiously violating the lockdown. speed to my mom sent me a note a moment ago and she's not mad about it that colorado is locking down again. but the governor there hasn't done anything like this. he has practiced what he preached and his approval rating is high because of it. just do the right thing for you and your family and your health. don't think the government is going to do it for you. >> jesse: i feel bad for all the small businesses, juan. in places like michigan, they are shutting everything down again. >> juan: pretty clear the only way we get the economy rolling again is to get the virus under control. i think you should call out politicians who behave in a
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hypocritical manner. they really hurt themselves and hurt their current ability so that is their fault. i do think and i said this yesterday, these are the right policies, these are good policies, and they shouldn't distract but the misbehaving shouldn't distract from the idea that we have to protect ourselves and our families. to me that happens but came from a mississippi newspaper, mississippi top officials. these are republicans, jesse. we do not want to see grandma at thanksgiving and bury her at christmas. >> jesse: are you going to have grandma over at thanksgiving? kennedy we are going to have a very distant thanksgiving. i'm going to the dollar tree and everybody will have their own utensils. we don't want to talk to each other. this is par for the course. what i will say is california lawmakers going to molly, it's a beautiful resort. rooms start at $600 a night. it's on this incredible strip.
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it's one of the best parts of hawaii. why wouldn't they want to go? yes, we all want to go somewhere. why don't you have a big rethink on this, why do you think you are immune from the virus and we have to be punished because we are the dumb little dirt people? we are dumb little dirt people who also want to frolic in the hawaiian sun. >> jesse: wow. dumb little dirt people appeared that's us. coming up, late night comedy has been an anti-trump hate-fest for years. what are they going to do now? gregg's monologue on that next. this holiday season,
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the industry lives in. one showrunner said after trump, we deserve to have some frivolity. as if they didn't have enough. that's like chris cuomo saying he needs a bigger ego. writing anti-trump yuks is as big as fires for terrorists. what small people with huge blind spots. before covid can we have the strongest economy in modern history. after covid we are coming back. peace breaking out over which left others like colbert and others which they the trauma theyexperience from p who cares if young adults didn't die in combat or household income rose by the hundreds or everybody has got a job, trump kept noah awake all night. post trump, she's looking forward to a diversity of thought which means two
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thoughts, i hate trump and i really miss hating trump. there weren't other things to laugh at? >> why aren't by 50 points ahead, you might ask. >> what do the facts say? >> the facts suggest that you absolutely don't have native american >> something you could get. chocolate, some other chocolate here. >> keeps turning up again and again. >> konstantin kilimnik. >> this was the actual swab being used. >> greg: no humor to be found here. my producer put that together in minutes. what four teams of late-night producers couldn't do in four years but i guess those targeted hit close to home and their pockets. they need frivolity not because
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they experience any harm trump did to the country, trump put an owwie on their psyches. i'm excited president obama is going to be on jimmy kimmel this week. i wonder who's going to get the rows. speed to barack obama book >> dana: barack obama book didn't create any buzz. apparently the far left is really disappointed. the characterization of biden -- they say it's not funny. they say it's hero worship and they are bored by it. >> greg: jesse, i like how they pretend there is nothing else to poke fun of. >> jesse: trump was pretty funny, greg. he tried to buy greenland, he bought the clemson football team
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$5,000 worth of fast food but he met with kim jong un twice. the guy was a content machine but he brought a whole cast of characters. remember the mooch? kelly and, sarah sanders coming in, melania. who is biden coming in? hunter? you can make funny jokes about kemal harris tell my conniving in the background. it's not that funny. i think trump made late-night comedy great again but "the five" still beats all those guys in the ratings. we don't even have writers! imagine how funny i would be if we had a writer! i'd have to look into that. >> greg: juan, they are looking forward to diversity. aren't they responsible for the lack of diversity in the first place? >> juan: i think you are, cleary making fun of trump, there isn't much diversity in trump's world.
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biden at least to me comes across as a normal guy. on the amtrak train in the night, a guy you were talking about big politicians -- >> jesse: that was 20 years ago. >> dana: i rode the amtrak with them in years. he was shocked. wanted to get away from me as fast as he could. >> juan: big time politicians use their influence, his son went to war. he suffered losses in his life. the problem is he's boring, he's normal, he's a normal guy. for a comedian, normal is not funny. what jesse laid out is a lot of stuff you could make fun of even if you were a trump man. >> greg: that's the problem. joe biden is so normal that you couldn't possibly make fun of him. there is nothing there, kennedy, to make fun of! >> kennedy: do you know what the funniest presidential impression other than darrell hammond doing clinton? chevy chase doing gerald ford because he didn't try to look like him, didn't try to sound
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like him. he just made him seem kind of dumb because he was very ordinary average president and that's what made it so hysterical. the thing that offends me most about the late-night writing over the last four years it's it's been so unimaginative and it's been the same joke rewritten and delivered with the same contempt and in the same way and there have been no boundaries that have been pushed here and that's why for a lot of these shows, people have moved on to other content. people are more excited about what they can binge watch on netflix then they are about what colbert said last night because most people just don't care because they have rendered themselves irrelevant by this redundancy in their humor. i think it's going to be very bad news for organizations, not just late-night, but "new york times," msnbc, and other places that have seen their ratings and subscriber ship quadruple during the trump
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era could implode. what is the answer going to look like this the last few years? >> greg: it's still fun than ben stiller. would you agree? >> dana: i still want to see ben stiller. >> greg: is he still in the end of him and industry? >> dana: i don't know. >> greg: is he doing infomercials? >> dana: on reverse mortgages actually. greg exactly >> greg: exactly.don't go anywh. the fastest seven is up next. ♪
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pandemic fatigue causing people to start decorating weeks before we've carved up the thanksgiving bird. companies are reporting americans are already buying trees. dana, i'm just fine with this. girls declared november 1st, 2020 has been so horrible that we are having two months of christmas. >> dana: i have a friend name shannon whose husband has basically alone up their entire house, with the santas and the other things. people should do, leave your halloween decorations in your thanksgiving decorations up and christmas, combined them all for two months. kennedy, >> kennedy: thanks, >> juan: last year i complained my favorite xm station was christmas carols before things giving. this year they started in the 1st of november. but i agree with you and dana. if it makes people happy in the
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midst of these trying times, go for it. be happy. >> kennedy: we have to have something to look forward to. they aren't seeing their friends, they aren't going to school. they still have all the work but none of the joy. will you have some of the grinch here? >> jesse: i say decorations go up after thanksgiving and they come down at the end of january at the latest. >> kennedy: january? >> jesse: i take mine down january 2nd or 3rd. you've got to give people breathing room. >> kennedy: greg? >> greg: i'm not putting my stuff up for this christmas, i'm putting my stuff up for next christmas. i'm doing christmas 2021 starting november 1st. we have to be worried about the industry, the mistletoe injury coming out of oregon.
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been plagued by #metoo, destroyed mistletoe and who's going to make out with a mass? it's almost impossible plus you don't know if anything is there. how do you get mistletoe's out? shotguns. you shoot it with a shotgun. >> jesse: may be slapped some on it. >> dana: with that new covid relief bill... >> kennedy: let's end it up to the boys who needed us most. >> dana: americans have spent 500 hours sitting on their keister's since march. shutdown has taught them to think of the couch as their new best friend. we are on our way to completely dehumanizing ourselves when we meld together with the barco lounger. my new year's resolution last
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january was to do something for my posture every day. i usually -- i usually do that when i get home. before i hit the couch. >> greg: something stinks about the story because it's a story -- >> kennedy: you sit on your couch after your bowl of beans? >> greg: this story was on every show, right? looking down the public, if you go out you are a murderer but if you stay inside, you are a fat pig. it's exactly -- you are a hero. >> jesse: i think american culture like the couch before covid.
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are we the only country that adores couches? >> dana: we have the best couches. we really do. couches in england? >> jesse: why are they so bad? >> dana: expensive, tiny. >> greg: smell. >> dana: sweeting, good couches though. >> juan: if you are on the couch we just hope you are watching fox. >> greg: you never couch your words. >> kennedy: finally this age is not nothing but a number but definitive proof when people start to feel past their prime. the new studies says the number is 47. dana? >> dana: trying not to feel that but i'm looking for a book about aging gracefully. >> kennedy: it's going to be in my podcast. maybe it'll be a book. maybe it'll be so good... jesse, how old are you? >> jesse: 42.
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>> kennedy: you've got five years... >> jesse: i've got this elbow pain. apparently i've been sleeping incorrectly. with my pillow, i go like that and i wake up in the morning and my elbow really hurts. i thought it was from the gym. now, it's because i slept on it funny. >> dana: it's not the gym. >> greg: maybe it is jim. >> dana: you are the only one who lost weight during quarantine. >> greg: i knew if i didn't do something i would get really big. i also don't buy this. the pride of your life should be ahead of you, not behind. the 60s are going to be incredible. it's got to be that way. you have more time behind you until everything speeds up. you have to enjoy every moment more and considering the alternative, it's good to get old.
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>> jesse: you are enjoying yourself right now. >> greg: i am. imagine being ben stiller. how miserable that's got to be. >> kennedy: juan? >> juan: i'm 66 and i think i'm happy. i think this is actually been proven that as you get older, until you have, you know quinn physical elements, people are happier, they are more content. i'm good with god, i'm good with my family, i'm good with my work, i'm pretty good. >> kennedy: it may b >> greg: watch your words come young lady! >> kennedy: thanks. one more thing up next. and unlike standard robots that bounce around it cleans row by row. if it's not a shark, it's just a robot.
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how many nuts, part three. dana, how many nuts? >> dana: seven. >> jesse: 11. >> greg: you won last time. >> juan: i'll say 50. >> kennedy: two nuts. >> greg: one, two, three, four -- is that it? it's more, five. >> jesse: my 11 is looking good. >> greg: i think we are going for a new record. that's a new record, that actually beat ben stiller. >> juan: dana, you're up.
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>> dana: there's a new bike that i think greg should get for his living room, it's a 40-inch high wheel comes equipped with a water bottle, you can put your favorite drink in there. greg, it's only $2,493 plus shipping but i think it's worth it. >> greg: i think it is too. >> juan: -- >> jesse: ever been walking alone and being very lonely and have no one's hand to hold? we have a solution for you. engineers at a japanese university have devised a device to combat loneliness. it is a hand-holding machine that has elastic gel that fits
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comfortably in your hand and if you squeeze it, the sensors will squeeze you back. a >> greg: i don't think this is for hand-holding. >> jesse: it had to something controversial. speed to stop, stop, come on. this one takes me back to my childhood, my dad used to do this with me. here is a proud pop not teaching his child how to be a boxer. it started as a way to build her confidence, it turns out she's a natural. she is a viral sensation but for now she feels good inspiring other girls. as brando said in waterfront, i could've been a contender. >> kennedy: baby yoda went to space, they took him on the spacspacex to take them up to te
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international space station, now they are telling him whether he is in a microgravity space. >> juan: that's it for us tonight, special report up next with bret baier. >> bret: you guys almost went off the rails there. breaking tonight, rudy giuliani makes the president's case to try to change the election outcome in the key state of pennsylvania. after discovering thousands of uncounted votes in georgia, that gave the president and his supporters new ammunition in their quest to challenge the results of the election, republicanrepublican secretary n georgia speaking out about why the president fell short as the recount comes to an end, we are also learning more about the president's plans for u.s. troops in the middle east, chief white house correspondent john roberts starts us off tonight with a lot of news.
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