n. tyrus, i wish you. >> you are an american, jack. we say pecan over here. tell jasper hi. pecan it is. >> dana: thank you for joining us, i'm dana perino. bill hemmer do you say pecan or pecan. >> pecan the snooty kid from cincinnati. see you at 5:00, thank you, dana. >> bill: big hour begins now i'm bill hemmer, waiting to hear from the coronavirus task force and waiting to hear from the president-elect as president trump's legal team keeps up the election fight. much more on that in a minute. the task force set to brief americans on the same day the cdc issued a major travel recommendation for thanksgiving. some governors moving to shut things back down as cases spike. joe biden meeting virtually with a group. expected he will speak after that concludes. all of this as president trump's legal team says he won by a landslide and they will prove it. reporting analysis begins now.

jonathan turley on the president's legal push. garrett tenney on breaking developments out of michigan, but we begin at the white house with kristin fisher. good afternoon, kristin. >> good afternoon, bill. well, a lot of the claims that we heard during that news conference we have heard before. and, in fact, many of them have already been thrown out in court. but there were two that were new. and they are out there. i really don't know any other way to say it. rudy giuliani claimed that there was a centralized plot involving widespread voter fraud in big cities that are controlled by democrats. and then another member of the trump campaign's legal team sidney powell, she says that that plot came -- is communist in origin and came from venezuela. now, to be very clear, the trump campaign has not come anywhere close to proving those final last two claims in court and listen to what karl rove thought about it just moments ago. >> these are serious, i think, somewhat strange accusations but

serious and now both mr. giuliani and ms. powell have an obligation to go to court and prove them. because we're -- these are questioning the fundamental fairness of the -- of our presidential election. has an obligation to go to court and prove these or the american people will have every reason to question their credibility. >> now, the campaign is describing that 90-minus conference as simply an opening argument. they are asking the in court. with approaching. >> describe where we have been and where we are at. what you have heard, i'm sure, in the fake news papers tomorrow will be one of two things. either there was not sufficient evidence that we have presented or we spoke too long. okay? so what you have heard now is basically an opening statement

this is what you can expect to see when we get to court to actually have a full trial. >> an opening statement according to the trump campaign. now, as for president trump, as of now, no plans to see him today on camera. this is, i believe, the 12th day since the election that he has had no public events on his calendar. vice president mike pence has been today held a task force briefing in the situation room and now bill we have a fairly rare briefing, another briefing of the white house coronavirus task force in the briefing room set for 4:00 p.m. bill? >> bill: waiting and watching on that. thank you, kristin. nice to see you on the north lawn. to say michigan we roll now. two republicans in that state claim they were bullied into certifying results in the election and now trying to change their votes. garrett tenney reports on that. the latest in michigan today in lansing, garrett? >> bill, now these two canvassers say they want to take back their votes, certifying the election results in michigan's

largest county. this comes just days after william hartmann and monica palmer are their names. they voted against certification, citing concerns about discrepancies in the numbers of ballots recorded as cast and the number of ballots counted. then during the public comment phase of a meeting of the wayne county board of canvassers tuesday night. the pair says they were repeatedly threatened and accused of being racist for their decision. take a listen. >> shame on you. shame on you for leading to this level of corruption. >> the law isn't on your side. history won't be on your side. your conscience will not be on your side. >> after more than two hours of that, the pair agreed that they would vote to certify the results if a complete independent audit of the city's elections would occur. however, after they voted to certify the results, michigan secretary of state said she was under no obligation to do that. so now the two republicans want to change their votes back.

in a sworn affidavit, monica palmer said i fully believe the wayne county vote should not be certified. the wayne county election had serious process flaws, which deserve investigation. that reversal also comes after president trump reportedly reached out to the pair tuesday night to thank them for their support. though, ms. palmer said that had no impact on their decision to try and reverse their vote. even now it is not clear if this attempt to try to change their votes will have any effect on this outcome given that wayne county has already submitted its certified results to the state. also important to note, the concerns that ms. palmer raises potentially amounts to a few hundred votes in a county joe biden won by more than 300,000. >> bill: garrett tinney, thank you from michigan. i want to bring in jonathan turley: i watched your twitter feed light up during that 90-minute press conference. that was something else. that's why we brought you on today. first of all, here is rudy giuliani one of the points that

he's trying to drive home. watch here. >> these cities are cities controlled by democrats which means they can get away with anything they want to do. it means they have certain degree of control over certainly control of the election board, completely. and they control law enforcement and, unfortunately, they have some friendly judges that will issue ridiculously irrational opinions just to come out in their favor. >> bill: so, on that point, he was suggesting that the pattern is same throughout these cities and states. how did you hear it? >> yeah, he was going beyond that. he was most of us thought he would be talking about athis one occasion machines for signatures. instead we got a global communist conspiracy that even featured the dead hugo chavez. it was quite a thing. only thing missing was a sinister figure petting a white cat. it was very heavy stuff. and the only good news is that this will have to end up in court because if think are not

going to present this nevada court as part of an election challenge, they will probably be forced to do so in defense of a defamation claim. because this company and its officers could well sue them if they can't prove these allegations. i mean, it was one. most amazing press conferences that i had seen. >> bill: what jenna ellis said is that this amounts to an opening statement and we have heard from you and ken starr and andy mccarthy and others saying it takes time to gather the evidence ised that the state of their case as of today. >> no, i'm very sympathetic that it does take time to get affidavits in evidence. on that part they were perfectly valid in saying that they are now moving towards court. but this is really not the time for opening statements. this is the time for hard evidence. and this press conference was long on heated rhetoric and short on hard evidence. i mean, i think they are going

to have to present this evidence quickly. these allegations are sweeping. they are disturbing. either way. if they are true or untrue they are disturbing. i am going to make the presumption that these attorneys can support these arguments because, if they cannot. they honestly could be subject to and the trump campaign could be subject to illegal action by the company. >> bill: how do you move a court at this point? >> well, you know, they raised some, you know, issues that we have read about before. these questions about overvoting. repeated submission of balloting. they have a lot of affidavits. people are making statements under the penalty of perjury. and their point is that most of the cases have been dismissed are not their cases and that they are now ready to roll. all right. but we are running out of runway. i mean, certifications will begin next week. and so i think that they have to realize time is of the essence.

and so if that was their opening statement, they better move to their closing statement pretty fast. >> bill: is the certification that becomes paramount now or is did when the electors are appointed on the 14th of december? because, if that's the case, this is going to run for a little bit here because it's three and a half weeks from now. >> it can run. but, i got to tell you that's my worst nightmare is to see a challenge occurring past the certification stage. it's one of the reasons i have been telling people that they shouldn't be fighting these challenges. that president-elect biden should have told his campaign to stand down. let these things be heard. let people hear the evidence. the worse scenario is that this bleeds past the certification and then you will have arguments that states like michigan or pennsylvania should not certify their votes. that would lead to a blood letting on the floor of congress. and we don't need that as a country.

i mean, this country is a powder keg. and we need to find ways to reduce that temperature. there is a couple of ways to do that. i mean, president trump should have called for the ascertainment of the election. i said two weeks ago it should have been ascertained so that president-elect biden can start in his transition. it doesn't bind anyone. it's not a certification. but he can do that and say i'm still going to challenge these results. and president-elect biden should -- >> bill: he was saying repeatedly in 2000, 20 years ago, you had 37 days between gore and bush. is that not valid. >> it is valid. when it comes to ascertaining the election, that's a responsible thing to do also responsible thing for president-elect biden to come forward and say look, these attacks on trump and republican lawyers are outrageous and i support looking at these allegations. i don't believe that they are true. but i understand that over 72 million people voted against

me and i want them to feel confident that these things have been heard. but today's press conference was really something. >> bill: professor, good to get your insight. thank you sir very much. jonathan turley from washington, d.c. thank you, sir. >> bill: as we wait to hear more from the coronavirus task force the feds issuing a new warning for americans about thanksgiving. so what does that mean for your holiday? plus, the nation's biggest school district shutting its doors. that could just be the beginning we are told. dr. marc siegel will weigh in on both of those topics. lots to discuss over covid. more over california's governor caught out at birthday party. geraldo and leo on the accusations of hypocrisy and the fight over civil liberty still to come this hour. ♪ ♪ liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!

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confusion over this decision by new york city to put an end to all in classroom instruction. as we mentioned new york is the largest school system in the entire country. hundreds of thousands of students take part in a combination of in person and online classes. as of now only remote learning. outside of city hall this morning parents delivered a petition with 12,000 signatures demanding that schools reopen. many are angry that the restaurants and bars have have not been forced to close also consider arbitrary the city's 3% infection rate used to complicates matters. the city and the state use different metrics prompting this exchange yesterday between the governor and a reporter who wanted some clarification about the shutdown policy. >> so confused. >> well then you are confused. >> i'm confused and parents are still confused as well. the schools. >> they are not confused. you are confused. >> no i think parents are very confused as well. >> read the law and you won't be confused.

the schools are open by state law. >> will they be open tomorrow? that's the question i think jimmy is correct in asking that question. i don't think it's obnoxious at all. >> well, i don't really care what you think. >> meanwhile, an increasing number of states are now imposing new restrictions statewide in kentucky starting on monday schools will halt all in person instruction. the earliest next month others include no more indoor dining. and in maryland starting tomorrow all bars and restaurants will close at 10:00 p.m. most hospital visits are suspended. and in kansas starting the day before thanksgiving, a mask mandate will be in place for all counties that do not have their own requirements in place. across the country as you mentioned the virus continues to rage, more than a quarter of a million americans have now died from the virus according to some of the experts now approximately 3% -- excuse me, 3 million americans are now currently infected with the virus. that would be about 1% of the

population. and lastly now, bill, new guidance from the cdc that say if you are planning to travel for thanksgiving, don't. bill? >> bill: david lee, thank you for that one. bring in dr. marc siegel to discuss all of this. doc, good afternoon to you. >> hi, bill. >> bill: 3% positivity rate in the public schools they close down. that 3% seems exceedingly low. i know they reached a deal a few months ago but what do you make of that. >> first of all, bill, 3% is low when you look at it this way. everyone who thinks they have covid out there if 100 get tested, 97 out of 100 are negative. that's still quite low. second there is no correlation between the number the percentage that test positive in the community and in schools. in fact, many major studies have shown, including one recently at brown university that, in fact, children students in schools do not spread this nearly as much as adults in the community do. so the real issue with schools is keeping schools safe, getting

enough testing. having enough protocols in place, masking and distancing. and that the teachers feel safe. but you know what, bill? the tremendous cost of keeping the schools closed has to be considered here. a lot of poorer students don't have the ability to do remote learning. they don't have the laptop. they don't have the ipad. and the socialization in schools is so important. and mental health screenings are important. and nutrition is important. and eye and dental care are important. across the board, when you close the schools like this, it is a tremendous public health cost. >> bill: i agree with you. another topic thanksgiving travel recommended by the cdc not to do it. i mean, there are millions of people who jump on the road for turkey day. what do you make of that? >> well, bill, i think that they know the cdc knows that they are not going to get across the board compliance here. 50 million americans are supposed to be traveling in the next few days. i think they are trying to send a message that traveling is a risky proposition if you are not tested before because, after all, if you were tested and you were negative and you got on a

plane, your chances are way, way less that you would spread covid-19. and planes themselves have been tested recently and have been found to be a lot safer than we thought they were. the other thing that cdc is saying, bill, is that all gatherings should occur with people in your immediate family. so you are not exposing yourself to someone, especially of a high risk group is involved an elderly person is involved. you are not exposing yourself to someone where you don't know who they were edges bodie exposed t. keeping yourself small makes a lot of sense. >> bill: vaccine follows on johnson and johnson if these two companies go forward you could have four major players on the scene perhaps in a month on the vaccine front; is that right? >> you are right, bill. as you know i'm very excited about the messenger rna vaccines we have been talking about already. 5% effectiveness. let me tell you what astrazeneca oxford vaccine brings to the table and johnson and johnson as well. they bring to the table a

platform of vaccine using an virus vector another virus dead virus not active that's been used in ebola vaccine and zika vaccine meaning thousands and thousands of people have already been tested with that type of vaccine the messenger rna is new. that means that we already have shown safety with that kind of platform before. abundance of riches here. we are going to have a vaccine very, very soon. very exciting. >> bill: lots to cover there doc, good job. dr. marc siegel thank you for being here today. laying the transition is hurting their ability to deal with the pandemic. talk to senator marsha blackburn who was involved in the last presidential transition in a moment shortly here.

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>> bill: from michigan the governor there holding a news conference after three republican lawmakers introduced articles of impeachment against her. all this over covid they say the state's restrictions violate the constitution. we will monitor that to see if thee responds to it. meanwhile, let's go to mike tobin who is live in chicago on this and more. hey, mike. >> hey, bill. the initial response from michigan governor gretchen whit her to this resolution calling for her impeachment. impeachment and removal from office was dismissive. a spokesperson saying of the republicans who introduced this resolution governor whitmer doesn't have any time for partisan politics or people who don't wear masks, don't believe in science and don't have a plan to fight this virus. one of the authors of the resolution says governor whitmer is dismissing the separation of powers using executive orders during the pandemic to bypass the legislature. >> the problem is the governor hasn't had time for the michigan house of representatives, the senators or the 10 million people that are trying to live through this virus.

>> now whitmer has come under fire for the harsh and critics say arbitrary of the lockdowns in michigan. the resolution calling for impeachment says in addition to bypassing the legislature the banned the free exercise of religion. offered no big contracts to political allies and overall failed to manage the crisis. part of the resolution reads she has exceeded her constitutional authority. violated the constitutional rights of the people of michigan. issued orders that are not in the best interest of the people of the state and used the pandemic as an opportunity to reward political allies. it should be noted that the republican leadership in michigan is not backing the resolution. lee chatfield, speaker of the house our fox affiliate told the resolution is a distraction what needs to be done in the state. the republican senate majority leader mike shirky has not signed onto the resolution. bill? >> bill: thank you, mike tobin in chicago on that. after california's democratic governor was caught as a dinner party while telling his constituents to stay home.

the guest list at that dinner is also raising some eyebrows. leo and geraldo take on the hypocrisy next. most? next.

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will bill bottom of the hour waiting to hear from both the trump and biden team the white house covid task force set to give an update 30 mention from now watching that room. joe biden expected to meet any moment after virtually meeting with governors today. keep you updated on both "fox & friends" o. fronts as they unfold today. some getting canned for response. governor cuomo and mayor de blasio clueless and they shut down in class learning in public schools with less than a day's notice. gavin newsom seen out at a party while telling california to stay home. guess who else was at the table that night. geraldo and leo standing by on this thursday but first to jonathan hunt who reports live in los angeles on that today, jonathan? >> bill, good afternoon. politicians fewer than faultless are rarely ones to let an

opposition mistake slide by. so republicans are piling on governor gavin newsom for his admitted mistake of attending a restaurant party unmavericked and about a dozen people from several other households seated closing together while telling the people of california they should do none of those things even at thanksgiving as we all battle the coronavirus pandemic. the pictures of newsom doing exactly what he is telling californians not to do prompted one republican committee woman to liken his actions to the french queen during the revolution saying the entire night out had a quote mary an continue net feel to it let them eat cake. for his part newsom has apologized and acknowledged it was simply wrong. >> instead of signature down i should have stood up and got in my car and drove back to my house. >> it's not restaurants one of the most expensive in california with a menu that runs around

$350 per person. a fact that prompted republican state senator shannon grove to ask rhetorically via tweet quote. in california $350 is equal to a one week's unemployment check for millions of california workers. b, the cost of gavin newsom's dinner at napa's french laundry restaurant or c both of the above? newsom also said during his apology press conference that quote covid fatigue is exhausting perhaps less so when one is fueled by nova scotia grilllet and herb roasted legion field farm lamb. just some of the dishes you might find on the french laundry's rotating menu, bill. >> bill: lunch starts at 350. it goes up from there thank you, jonathan to our thursday team now. geraldo rivera, fox news correspondent at large and leo terrell civil rights attorney and host of the leo podcast. great to see you both. geraldo is back in the city for

first time in 8 months. i will get your re-elections in a moment. >> okay. >> bill: first on the hypocrisy, it's not good for you but it's good for me. what do you think of that? >> governor too cool store school gavin newsom got caught. the last thing the nation needs with our nerves stretched taught with this bitterly contested election and this result and the uncertainty on the one hand and then have you got schools being closed hundreds of thousands of children in new york being cut off of education last thing you need is someone do as i say not as i do. it's very hypocrisy is palpable. >> bill: do you know who else was at that dinner? the ceo of the california medical association. >> if you get sick in good hands. >> bill: nonprofit that oversees 50,000 physicians in california who would know more, leo? >> let me mention this.

he was having a birthday party for a lobbyist. so you have got the california medical association. have you got a lobbyist who is his friend and you have got gavin newsom with his family sitting there let me tell you right now you should have listen to the his apology. his apology was a bigger lie. he said he was outside. he was inside. look at the video. this man lied when he had an opportunity to give a sincere apology. as geraldo mentioned, this gam's kids go to private school. this state is being this state is wrecked becausement people totally dependent on them and hurting families who are now being told by the state don't go see your grandparents or your family members for thanksgiving. but i'm going to have a $350 dinner and that excludes wine. $350 excludes wine. >> said put your mask on in between grits when you are eating out. come on. then have you got lawmakers

going they didn't go to sacramento. they didn't do a zoom chat. they went to mao and they stand by it? >> that's pretty cool. if you want to go -- i guess they use private money in their defense. to go to maui, have you got to send signals. have you got to tell people if you are asking for them to suffer that you are willing to endure the same kind of discomfort as you're asking of people. if we are all in this together the last thing you want to do is go to maui. sun on the beach. you know, here i am. everything is cool. pass the suntan oil. oh, and by the way. the minions back home are suffering, you know, we have got 250,000 dead. >> it's just bad. >> listen, people don't understand people are dying. there is pandemic fatigue. kids at home not getting meals at school. people who are depressed frustrated. people are suffering. not to have elected surgery. this is more than just comparing the two. there are people who are actually dying as a result of

this pandemic. the key is this governor takes the other issue. >> bill: i got it. geraldo, what do you think of new york city 8 months removed all the great things that have been extracted from it? >> it's heart breaking. first of all to be here near times square and to have broadway dead. i'm staying at the barclay, an old hotel big old hotel. i think i may be the only person in the hotel my friend leo not this leo my other friend leo walked down from 57th street to 48th street a half a mile every hotel, every single one shuttered, shops closed. the city it's wounded in a way i have never seen. it's so melo mel hell loan colln here and look around and see what's happened in this time. this has been a terrible,

terrible that's why these issues over gavin newsom and the restaurant -- >> can i make one suggestion? it's funny how the blue states shut everything down and some red states like florida they are suffering but thought as bad as the blue states but they are open. people need to get out in the open. >> stop red blue leo. >> that's the truth. you cannot hide from the truth. >> recover together and then congratulate each other for enduring. >> that sounds good on paper. i'm talking about patro practic. donald trump was absolutely right about the schools. the schools should be open. they should be absolutely open. >> i agree with that i would rather have the schools open. >> democrats have shut down all the schools. it makes no sense to close down the schools. >> feed the children. i absolutely agree with you. >> bill: nice to see you today geraldo welcome back to town. i guarantee you this, you won't stay long. you will be back in cleveland

within days. guarantee you. not much to stay here for. >> not much. >> bill: thank you g man and leo. calling on biden to take his cause. how does that effect agenda. slam the trump team for delaying that transition. marsha blackburn was a member of the trump transition team not too long ago she joins me next.

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that and how it is going so far. chad, hello. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, bill. well, this is reflective of divides inside the party. liberals are worried about, quote, corporate interest joining the white house team and i asks chairman of the house democratic caucus hakeem jeffries about that yesterday. >> democrats slamming the aappointments of richmond and ricceti. >> no. >> why not is that a problem does that demonstrate division. >> poet of them both of them wie phenomenal additions to a biden presidency and administration. >> unacceptable. republicans are taking note of liberals and the squad pushing biden to a point of corporate-free cabinet. >> i could understand why you won'want me out of the senate because i'm going to bury your

agenda. you are the most radical in the history of american politics. >> corey bush is a congresswoman elect from missouri. she said it's not enough just to do things differently. they have to be bold and make change now. and alexandria ocasio-cortez, the democratic representative from new york city says that she wants joe biden to keep his promise to voters after all it was these liberal voters that put joe biden in the white house. bill? >> bill: thank you, chad for that i want to bring in republican senator marsha blackburn in tennessee. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon. >> bill: you were part of the trump transition team. what do you think about bringing joe biden more on the fold on that? >> you know, bill, he's going to have the resources that he needs. and as you know, so well d.c. leaks like a sieve. if he is needing information, there is somebody that is going to get it to him. and, let's let the challenges, the investigations around the

election take place it took al gore and george bush 37 days in the 2,000 election. so they are going to have plenty of time to do their transition if indeed joe biden is the winner of the election. >> bill: so you are saying what's the hurry at the moment? >> what's the hurry is right. joe biden has been in d.c. for a very long time. the trump campaign has legitimate claims to say let's investigate these irregularities. let's look at the issues around the software go back through these audits, recount. they have every right to do that i think if every legal ballot is counted donald trump would win this election. >> bill: does the pandemic affect your decision on that at all? >> there is information that should be shared with -- via the pandemic. we had a bipartisan briefing today on the vaccine. i know that they are keeping the

biden camp informed on that information we know governors are working closely with local mayors. this is where you are going to see much of the mandates. whether it's for masks or school closures. you know, bill, that is all going to happen at the local level. we are focused very much on getting this vaccine the two through the process now. there are two more that will likely be completed by the end of the year. this is very good news. president trump has done a good job there. >> bill: we might have four on the field before christmas. that would be really great stuff. let me talk about the progressive stuff against joe biden. here is a clip from bernie sanders last night on cnn. watch here. >> it would give me the opportunity to fight to raise the minute mum wage to a living wage, equal pay for equal work for women. it would give me the opportunity to make sure that workers who are entitled to overtime pay get

that overtime pay, that workers get pensions that have been taken away from them that we help workers organize into unions so they can earn decent wages through collective bargaining. >> bill: what he was talking about secretary of labor under president biden if do collapse at the outset there, what is the level of pressure on biden? how does he keep people happy or does he? >> i have to tell you what we're hearing and what i'm hearing is that his cabinet is probably going to be the old d.c. establishment. he is pivoting to what he is comfortable with people that he knows and i full lie believe there will be people from the obama-biden administration that would come in that would work with him. i think elizabeth and bernie and aoc they are going to find them on the outs. here is the thing, bill, when you look at the election results

in the house we are keeping the senate. and then you look at the state legislatures. the progressive socialistic agenda did not sell. people were not buying that message joe biden knows how it read results, so does his team. and if he is declared the winner, i have no doubt you're going to see them push for a more moderate cabinet. donald trump, if he gets a second turn, i believe he will have that second term, i think he will. >> bill: joe biden is picking more from d.c. establishment. >> yes. that's some of what i have been hearing. he is not going to go for the socialistic progressive agenda because the american people rejected that in this election. >> bill: senator, thank you for your time. that would be a throw back to pre2016 so to speak. >> that's right. >> bill: thank you, marsha blackburn, good to have you today. >> thank you.

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>> bill: video we can share with you a rapper in new york city literally playing with fire the other night happened on top of a bus in brooklyn. the rapper reportedly says the stunt was part of a music video. this went on for a while. he lit something up on the street. jumped off a bus a short time later. his name is dupre g-o-d. sake of the art and the sake of the wutang clan. the dupre turned himself into police charged with reckless endangerment. the nypd has yet to locate the flame thrower. and here is the cover of the "new york post" yesterday singh city. "new york post" classic. thanks for that.

actress lori loughlin's husband reporting to prison today the fashion designer will start serving five month prison sentence in the role in the college admission scandal. that couple admitted to paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to get their daughters into college claiming they were crew recruits. began serving two month sentence about a month ago. in new york in nevada, churches and synagogues are asking the u.s. supreme court to end state limits on in person religious services. jonathan moore theologian, former priest and fox news contributor. how are you doing, jonathan? good day to you. >> hey, doing well, bill. thank you. >> bill: talk about standing. what case ar they trying to make here during this pandemic? >> yeah. well, governor cuomo made what i think was an extraordinary and extraordinarily bad decision in which he said in red zones he is referring to brooklyn in this case. in these red zones no more than 10 people can be in a church at

any given time. and the diocese of brooklyn is saying to the supreme court that is just bad science because governor cuomo and others say it's good science to make sure that you are six feet apart wearing a mask. but, in churches, it's not 6 feet it's actually 16 feet, 2e is about a 1 percent level of congregants in a big church. it's just not scientific and i think the supreme court is going to come down pretty strong. >> bill: okay. the court hasn't taken it up yet. this comes primarily from the synagogues here in new york. they feel like they have been singled out in this. you have been watching that story. do you think they have a case on that? >> well, they haven't been singled out. in fact, this was the diocese of brooklyn. this is catholic churches bringing this case as well to the supreme court working together with jewish congregations. but, samuel alito, justice samuel alito just said the other

day, thursday night, kind of showing foreshadowing what he is going to say in this case he said the real question here, the real question, not just about religious liberty but the real question in cases of cultural or societal emergencies like the pandemic do our elected officials have absolutely unrestricted and unreviewable discretion in terms of their executive orders? samuel alito is saying no, they don't. and especially about a fundamental right like religious liberty. >> bill: okay, what is your feeling on the governor? he told us yesterday schoolings are going to close. the mayor said that as well. 3% positivity in new york city. a lot of people got the low marker. cuomo says follow the science. is that what he is doing here? >> yeah. you know what? his political star just skyrocketed at the beginning of this pandemic because he said some very simple things. these are the facts. following thfollow thescience.

if we follow the science we will be safe. but the percentage of positive infections in the public schools, in new york city less than 1%. and kids simply are not getting sick. and not a single one has died. why would you shut down something going against science supposedly in the name of science? simply does not mistake and i'm sure there is a major political motivation going on from the teacher's union. not the teachers. they are doing a great job but from the union. >> bill: understood. we will see what sam elicit toe said. alito said talked about religious liberty and free speech. nice to see you again. jonathan morris. waitinmike pence will be in the briefing room. a covid task force public briefing today. give you a sense what's

happening at the white house. the cdc recommending to all americans not to travel over the thanksgiving holiday. we will see how much that comes up today. stocks treading water nasdaq 3:00 eastern monday through friday and tomorrow is friday. we will catch you then. here is neil. .[bell] >> neil: thank you, briefing from coronavirus task force and powwow the former vice president thought president-elect joe biden will be having with some of the nation's governors. what could be at stake on this day everyone is paying attention to covid-19 because of spikes in cases in better than half the states in this country what, if anything, can be done to address that on a day we learned a third major drug player has come up with a vaccine that could be out sooner rather than later and actually a fourth player in the mix. we will get to that in a bit. lots going on. welcome, everybody. so glad to have.