what are you making this saturday? >> reporter: we have some of this bacon braided turkey. >> i know where you live. i might do it. thanks for joining us this sunday, get that cookbook. >> it is saturday! >> every saturday. neil: it is locked the weekend, lockdowns across the country. a lot of parents protesting. we have one and let's just say an angry one. and official in oregon defining a thanksgiving lockdown, she will have a larger gathering as she wants with misty foggy conditions in portland, to an order that is not being taken very well. the pro-trump rally in atlanta pretty soon, the state certified a joe biden win but the governor

has asked for a new hand recount, the secretary of state is here with why that is unnecessary and the fight that ensued in the peach state. i am neil cavuto and happy weekend to you. hope things are going well as you prepare for turkey day and whether you will have it with relatives at home. be careful who knocks on your door. we will get into all of that and what is happening with the mounting cases from governors across the country to keep it limited. the protests are growing as are the cases. >> let's take a look out west beginning with california. it is a mandatory stay-at-home order for overnight hours and last night was the first night for a curfew in los angeles county, people dining out in

studio city, major money on outdoor setup, and a stay-at-home order could come as early as tomorrow. >> you have to shut me down from 10:00 until 5:00, doesn't make any sense. >> not very happy, for the covid-19 briefing. >> the state hit more than 13,000 new cases, thousands of cars lining up in a testing center taking 45 minutes just to get to the entrance to arizona that had 4000 new cases two days in a row. hospitals across the state stopping business with a few exceptions like labor and end of life. in colorado, the state says modeling shows one in 49 people are contagious. >> drones drop by your neighbor's house for drink after

work, no dinner parties. one of the venues of this spread. >> reporter: people are being urged to spend thanksgiving to limit their daily interactions. and treat everyone you encounter like they have kim jong un -- covid-19. >> the rules change. >> depending how the dinner is going. in new york, not just there, they've done away with in person classes in the new york metropolitan area. new york city public school parent and in a dilemma, what do

you do? >> i am not worried about my kids. i work from home and get support and i'm worried about our most vulnerable children because it is not working and so many kids don't have devices, high-speed internet, we have to do that. neil: what has the mayor said about how long this would last, this virtual learning, announced day of and all of a sudden if you could. how long will this last? >> he has not announced an opening plan. and 3%.

it is 10%. it is a reopening. part of the issue is others. 6 million mothers in the labor market because they are at home facilitating. it is going on for a while for americans safety nets. we have to figure out how to keep schools open. neil: this notion that the schools, there is a link but there isn't. they have nothing to do with what happened in schools, a lot of it has to do with spikes in

neighborhoods and individual homes which surprised me. if true would indicate this is an elaborate waste of time. what are you thinking? >> reporter: there is a moment to shut things down and people have to wear masks. i don't think you should be doing that during thanksgiving. i also think schools are not transmitters. in new york city shut the bars, shut indoor dining. but schools are places we have to keep open because we can't lose an entire generation because of a pandemic, we couldn't find a way to keep schools open. neil: i wish well dealing with this. this is a problem for a lot of

moms and dads and working couples trying to deal with something thrust on them with little notice. hope you had a happy and healthy thanksgiving. i do want to get a read on the significance of this with doctor debbie. all of this occurs on talk of promising vaccines coming down the pike including the one from pfizer, granting emergency approval, looks like that will happen. how soon would it be in both hands? >> the fda is supposed to review it around december 10th and as soon as things are promising, they will be shipped out immediately and some people will get them, first responders, healthcare providers, vulnerable folks but the general population, not until april or

spring when most people get the vaccine. we have things to be thankful for, but all of this with the lockdown it really erodes the spirit of thanksgiving and togetherness we would hope for. neil: a lot of orders or whatever you call it from various governors under constituents and restaurants, postpone it if you can, better safe than sorry, limited to ten people are fewer. what do you think of that? >> the cdc is saying something similar. a blanket rule that might make sense, my patients ask me, to go into a little more detail. i talk about the risk of having the virus, someone had coronavirus in new york, if they had it in the spring, test negative now and have antibodies they are spreading it, very low.

children very low. i talk to people about their risk if they catch the virus. of someone has multiple medical conditions over the age of 70 they should stay away from others because their risk of death or serious complication is high so separate people in terms of risk and others if they are going to meet with each other and in a gathering larger than ten i tell people where your mask if you can, drinking something, bring your own utensils and try to do things you minimize your risk of spreading the virus, and if you travel somewhere and develop symptoms have a plan for how to get home because you don't want to get on a plane or train or car with other people and expose other people so to try to have different plans for all the different scenarios to minimize the risk.

neil: what are you doing for thanksgiving? >> we are staying in getting deliveries and getting that afterwards so that is the safest approach, there are other things to prepare for, suicidal ideation. in terms of calling the police, the people encouraged to tell on their neighbor and disrupt the feeling of community. keep the lines open for people, call 9 one one for them, let police and first responders help you versus tattling on your neighbor and i am not even convinced if i were the police and i had been vilified which i had been for some degree most of this year i would not want to

come in and interrupt people's thanksgiving. on top of that i don't know if it is safe to go from one household to another because if you are exposed to something in one household do you want to keep going to other families throughout the day and spread the virus that way? julie: i admire this much about you, you are getting food delivered to you. there is something very hard humanizing. have a safe holiday. in the meantime, what has been going on in battleground states, the president meeting with a couple top officials in charge of accounts going on their. don't know if he got the answer he wanted. mark meredith has more.

>> the president and staff made clear they are not breaking down the president's campaign in that, casting doubt on election results, but all along he sees himself as winner including a tweet an hour ago the president writing this quote, big voter fraud coming out in georgia concerning georgia stay tuned, latest tweets over the election come after he met with michigan state lawmakers at the white house friday, michigan is set to certify its results on monday. biden won the state by 154,000 votes but the meeting is raising eyebrows because some are wondering if the president is trying to convince lawmakers not to certify. among those in attendance were the senate majority leader and state house speaker who put out a statement saying they were focused on the coronavirus response, we have not been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in michigan and legislative leaders, we will follow the law and the normal process regarding michigan

avenue selectors just as we said throughout this election. we see the president's staff on tv saying this election is not over. donald trump had a chance to meet virtually with world leaders for the g 20 summit something normally done in person but because of the pandemic it was done online. the president just left the white house, he's on his way to a virginia golf club. if anything changes on the schedule we will let you know. happy thanksgiving. neil: to you as well. mark meredith at the white house. keeping track of accounts going on in different states. in new hampshire, a senator who barely lost her race, by little more than 1000 votes. what she learned from that, what the president and others can learn from this. talking tax-smt investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest.

this is andy reminding me how i can keep my investing costs low and that there's no fee to work with him. here's me learning about schwab's satisfaction guarantee. accountability, i like it. so, yeah. andy and i made a good plan. find your own andy at schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. it turns out i have tardive dyskinesia, a condition that may be related to important medications i take for my bipolar disorder. tardive dyskinesia can affect different parts of the body.

it may also affect people who take medication for depression and schizophrenia. - [narrator] in today's trying times, we're here to help you manage td. visit talkabouttd.com for a doctor discussion guide to prep for your next appointment in person, over the phone, or online. - it's a relief to know there are treatments for td.

carley: neil: here's how important the georgia counties going on or just, two senate spots, all the spending that has gone into it, $120 million. it has attracted the biggest names among republicans. when you look at governor sean parnell of alaska, sean tyler of arizona, rob portman of ohio, this young lady, former senator of new hampshire, interesting to note she lost one of the closest senatorial elections in american history, a little over 1000 votes. good to have you here. >> it was 2017 but who is counting. much less --

neil: how was it resolved, you want to the count to go through. it was resolved, you are very diplomatic about it, very magnanimous, had to be a heartbreaker. >> it was. what i took from it thinking about these georgia races everyone has to get out, every republican voter get out because your vote really does matter and the other thing is the tsunami of money from the far left especially those outside, dark money coming into georgia and that is why i am involved in this effort also. neil: how was it when you had -- i will get to georgia, sorry to get sidetracked but i remember that race so well, when you finally congratulated maggie, how did that go, how did the process go?

>> never easy losing a race. so much at stake. we had a republican president and republican senate when i lost but i called senator hassan and wished her well and for me i wanted to make sure i could get behind other people that were running and that is what i do this cycle because i am so concerned about the country and what democrats would do if they took control of the senate so that is why i think this georgia race is so critical. neil: you were very gracious, looked at that, a great deal of concern that out-of-state voting, we will never know for sure. the president is right to go ahead and count every state that

he cited. there is concern about whatever he will do, what he said he will. >> the president has every right to embrace legal challenges, that is how the system is set up and how it should go. there are three branches of government and the president will make his own decision and go forward and things will work out but i really believe what we need to focus on is the senate race in georgia. heather: two of them. democrats have to take both seats to take control of the senate but in the midst of this, there's a republican squabble between the governor, republican and secretary of state and the guy in charge of counting and

ratifying the ballots. the lieutenant governor in between. is that complicating things for the senate race, could backfire on republicans? >> i would like to see republicans unified. i don't think your average voter focuses on that and that is what we need to do. senators leffler and perdue, what i'm involved with, karl rove, the georgia battleground, the ground games, getting average voter is out, letting people know what is at stake for this nation because chuck schumer said it will. now we take georgia, we change the nation. we love our nation, our constitution and don't want tax increases, court packing and the things we know the senate democrats will do if they take charge.

i would like to see them unified. what matters is the grassroots who will win the race for the country. this is about the whole country. that is why i am chairing new hampshire, people in new hampshire i talk to, they don't get the far left to take over if we don't have whatever happens at the top of the presidential race 50/50 in the senate. neil: your state of new hampshire, very good seeing you again. have a safe thanksgiving. >> thanks, happy thanksgiving and can i say to your viewers please gabattleground.com, we need your support. todd: 1 very good, thank you very much. there has been a push against

stimulus going, not talking about i administration but a lame-duck session a few weeks away. it was in this small little village- in connemara. right! connemara it is! there's one gift the whole family can share this holiday season, their story. give the gift of discovery, with an ancestrydna kit.

neil: the markets follow the issue, is there going to be stimulus and that is what people are seizing on, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell discussed the possibility of getting something out even on a lame-duck session, a good opportunity to bring this up with the democratic senator from maryland. thanks for doing the time. >> good to be with you and happy thanksgiving to you.

neil: i know it seems a great long tease in the market, hopes were raised a little bit on talk that that is all it was, talk, it couldn't be coupled together in a lame-duck session. how likely would that be? >> it is desperate right now. small businesses will not survive until next year unless we get additional help. unemployment benefits will end at the end of this year, it is desperate with unemployment rate still very high. state and local governments are laying off workers, we are in the midst of this pandemic. it is escalating, here is the good news. there has been lots of conversations among democrats and republicans coming together, a bipartisan bill, let's make sure it is significant enough to get through spring of next year.

i can tell you what is the highest priority to get a covid-19 package done during the lame-duck session. neil: bernie sanders has all but advertised the job of labor secretary. no indication joe biden would be interested. what do you think about it? >> we have a deep bench of people qualified to serve in the biden cabinet. there is confidence but joe biden's cabinet would reflect the priorities he campaigned on in the presidential campaign, i will let him make his judgment to see if we have a balanced cabinet, but i'm confident that he will consider that, those nominees.

todd: 1 very diplomatic answer. the progressives in your party, the ones they argued got joe biden elected, that he owes of them. do you think he owes this part of your party seats in a cabinet and even more? >> what joe biden needs in his cabinet is to carry out his commitment to represent all-america, that he will make sure his supporters and those who did not vote for him are represented by policies of a biden administration. he needs to govern for this nation and yet in doing that he will appeal to the broad categories of support he got in georgia's campaign, 80 million votes, a broad sector of

america, exactly one particular group, he is going to represent this country. neil: one of the ideas the president-elect is bandied about is student loan debt forgiveness, he paid the it at around 10,$000, saying it is 50,$000. where are you on this? how likely is it after immediate course of action on the part of the president-elect? >> before covid-19 this was an important issue. we had a deal with the second largest amount of debt thanks to credit cards, entirely too expensive to attend college today, they have large amount of student debt, we need to provide relief before covid-19. now because of covid-19, so many

people out there, we have to figure out a way to ease the burden on americans, we have to deal with the realities but also have a program moving forward to make college education more affordable. you should be able to send your child to college without going into debt and we need a program that accomplishes that. to deal with the outstanding debt for the cost of college moving forward. it is an urgent issue that will literally part of the biden administration. neil: we will see what happens, very nice of you to come in on a saturday. when we come back, people tell you how many you should have in your house and thanksgiving. i want you to meet the elected official who isn't telling the governor's line and is ready to challenge that. after this.

if you have medicare, listen up. the medicare enrollment deadline is only days away. with so many changes, do you know if your plan is still the right fit? having the wrong plan may cost you thousands of dollars out of pocket. and that's why i love healthmarkets, your insurance marketplace. with healthmarkets' fitscore, they compare thousands of plans from national insurance companies to find the right medicare plan that fits you. call or visit healthmarkets to find your fitscore today. in minutes, you can find out if your current plan is the right fit, and once you've let the

fitscore do the work, sit back and enjoy not having to shop for insurance again. healthmarkets' fitscore forever technology will continuously scan the market for the best coverage at the best price. so you can shop once and save again and again and again. rest easy, knowing you'll have the right plan, at the right price, and the right fit for you. best of all, their services are completely free. does your plan have $0 copays, $0 deductibles, and $0 premium? if not, maybe it's not the right fit. does it include dental and vision coverage? well, if not, maybe it's not the right fit. how about hearing aid, glasses, and even telemedicine, at no additional cost? maybe there's a better fit for you. call healthmarkets now, or visit healthmarkets.com for your free fitscore. they can instantly compare thousands of medicare plans with all these benefits and more, including plans that may let you keep your doctor and save money. healthmarkets doesn't just work for one insurance company. they work to help you, and they do it all for free. having helped enroll americans in millions of

policies, while earning an a-plus customer satisfaction rating from the better business bureau, you can trust healthmarkets. with the annual medicare enrollment deadline coming, go to healthmarkets.com, or call right now. your insurance marketplace. healthmarkets. find your fitscore and get your answers today to get the most out of medicare. call now.

neil: some food for thought. how much food would you have for your relatives if you had to keep it limited? i saw doocy's beautiful bacon wrapped turkey but the rule of

some for those adhering to orders from the governors is no more than ten people at a maximum. that is standard procedure, the cdc going further saying you should skip it altogether this year, celebrate when things slow down the virus and folks like my next guest, a commissioner in oregon commission and she said no to a governor urged to keep it limited. you are taking a big risk with that. what is the big group, what are you planning? >> i will plan on my normal get together, my people, my family can make their own decisions on what they do. >> how big was it.

the protection of the family, not saying how many people are what i would like to say, not that the governor urged this. she mandated, 6 people came to thanksgiving dinner. $200 and arrested and put in jail, that is wrong. i have noticed a trend across america, sheriffs in oregon are rebelling against these orders. it is an attempt of government to control people in their own homes. neil: how do they police it? how will the governor and force that, i talked to police all over the country who say they are not tapping on doors. obviously there will be neighbors who might be tempted to snitch, a good number of cars outside the home and say stop by but are you worried about that? you've grown a lot of attention for this.

>> i've drawn a lot of attention but there is a time in a person's life when enough is enough. we have been in lockdown for eight month and conditions of not improved. yesterday -- neil: there is a danger that health experts even in your state saying they understand the anger and resistance but it is what it is, you might be endangering those relatives, might be endangering yourself and others. >> reporter: i have a hugely healthy family. most of us have been tested for covid-19. we take protocols for limiting the spread of anything you might have. if they want to eat outside they will eat outside. my family is cognizant, we've been browbeaten for 8 months and

sheriffs across america will not be arresting people for wearing masks or any of these other activities, too busy with criminals or crime. todd: 1 i understand your frustration if you have a big family you want to celebrate but we are dealing with something getting out of control, the sheer number of cases that have moved up, close to 200,000 yesterday alone, better than two full weeks, every day averaging 100,000 cases, a way to do that. >> controlling people in their own homes i will always object to and you make a good point,

spreading before the thanksgiving, why not enjoy thanksgiving? neil: let's see what happens. hopefully all goes peacefully, wonderfully, have you tried the bacon turkey? >> i have seen that. by. neil: trudy smith, oregon commissioners chair. we had that in one tiny corner. all the issues in this topsy-turvy political world targeting donald trump supporters. it has got to be punishment. >> fireworks! ♪

irresistibly smooth chocolate. to put the world on pause. lindor. made to melt you. by the lindt master chocolatier. joint pain, swelling, temy psoriasis. cosentyx works on all of this. cosentyx can help you look and feel better by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine, or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. watch me! get real relief with cosentyx.

inside the dc. what happens to us and what is happening to the city is they are blocking off free. these folks that were attacked going to the hotels were just like us. they were not actively demonstrating or doing anything. they were just trying to get home, to get a cars. >> they have to be arrested and they have to be punished. not hard to separate violence from nonviolent and peaceful protests can go on and when they are not peaceful they've got to arrest people. neil: ever since that act of violence against trump supporters and trump rally, once the sun went down, it turned pretty nasty. what they encountered leaving the white house, the president accepting the nomination of the

time and it got pretty scary and is getting scary again. former washington dc detective, the washington dc mayor and others, we want to protect both sides but this does happen a good deal but what is the answer? better protections no matter whose protests shouldn't be together, the two sides with extreme views, when putting them in the same space at the same time you are asking for trouble. what do you think of this? >> i want to say you are right when you take two groups of individuals with views on the matter and put them together, you have the proud boys on the right and on the left antifa and black lives matter but during

the day they were allowed to peacefully demonstrate but they got out of hand because both sides came to that site, the sad commentary of this deal you had the president of the united states throwing cobalt on this and creating the problem. during the day of this rally trump gondola golf course or trump who says this election has been stolen from him as, quote, these individuals who are friendly when they are all upset and this is a sad commentary of where we are in america at this time. todd: 1 i believe there is temper on both sides but when you see this, your intention is not to get the other side so

riled that it responds like this but in this particular case no matter what, the president is saying or those on the other side are saying, my understanding of what happened last summer with the attack on rand paul and his wife and something happens at night and local authorities, this played out in seattle and minneapolis where they allowed the two sides to be with each other. you can't draw a crowd ahead of time, seems like a petri dish for trouble. >> absolutely right but let me defend the metropolitan police department. to keep these groups apart last weekend, it is a matter that there are 20 arrests, eight firearms confiscated and also

four police officers injured as a result of crime keeping these groups apart so what i am saying and what is concerning to me is what started this and in charlottesville we had a woman killed in charlottesville. fortunately what took place in dc there was no one who was actually killed and the metropolitan police department did a tremendously good job. neil: we called dc's office but if the president never concedes this election are you worried about more violence, that could be a precipitant of more trouble?

if he doesn't concede does that worry you? >> it worries me tremendously. we are divided country. if you have a fight, take it to the courts, went to the court on 35 occasions, you've not presented any evidence. all you've done is stir the pot, we expect out of view. if you don't have the you need to concede and we can try to bring the country to - we are terribly divided country and as a result of you, mister trump and what you are not saying is what you should be saying at this stage. >> words matter, actions matter, thank you very much. as we were wrapping up we are getting word of what normally happens before a planned game

but the game between clemson and florida state has been postponed when we got medical personnel from both schools could not apparently agree on a safe way to play amid the pandemic is in the case of trevor lawrence making his first start september 20 fourth after testing positive for the virus, we do not know what safety standards were put into place at the two schools. my son goes to clemson, a chance to defeat florida state but this is unusually hours before game to postpone or put it off. might have to be out right canceled but that is a sign for these pandemic times just hours before game.

♪ ♪ i got it all from you ♪ i'm always pushing through ♪ i know we'll make it to the finish line ♪ ♪ i know you're waiting on the other side ♪ ♪ i'm like you

on-demand glucose monitoring. because they're always on. another life-changing technology from abbott. so you don't wait for life. you live it.

julie: an up-and-down week for the markets, the s&p 500 down, pfizer hope to have a vaccine in short order with the approval and we have spikes announced throughout the world. here to cringe the numbers, rebecca walter, david asman, welcome to you both. the virus news is worrisome, the vaccine news is promising but if the virus bikes have the market disproportionately worried, should they? >> yes. when the virus bikes we go into

lockdown and a lot of places in our economy is too fragile, we need to be more stimulus not, not less and the markets should be worried. bill: i am worried as the vaccines drip out and the spikes ago on, we will have negative growth in the first quarter, that it could weigh on the economy well into the future. >> i think so too. the market is priced to perfection. if we go back where we were just before the pandemic hit. they were hoping it is more the election that donald trump could pull it out so they didn't have to worry about a tax increase but with regard to the vaccines they have come true and that is propelling the market even higher of course there's a lot of speculation what will happen

in georgia if the democrats take those senate seats then there is definitely going to be a tax increase that could slow growth. what markets did this week is happening until those elections in georgia. neil: any hope stimulus changes things that we could see something in the lame-duck session? it seems unlikely to me but what will market reaction be? >> we need it so badly. the lockdowns, we need more stimulus. i'm not a government stimulus person but don't want to great depression either. we need a lot of help. we need to get the country back open as fast as possible and until we do we need more stimulus and we can't afford that forever. >> the best stimulus comes from the private sector. heather: good point. we will take a quick break, congratulations, david is a grandfather.

he's 35 years old but is a grandfather. so good news in the middle of the pandemic. stay with us. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa we're portuguese? i thought we were hungarian. ... this holiday, start the journey with a dna kit from ancestry.

>> all right. trump supporters gathering in the beautiful city of atlanta right now. boy, georgia has been the epicenter of the world and two senate battles going on right now concurrently, a run-up election that will determine the makeup of the united states senate and then the issue with the count and the recount and now, we are word that brian kemp is ordering for a count of the audit. and we'll talk to the secretary of state to see whether this is needed and he's got the two republican criticisms there, his handling of this. in the meantime, charles watson in atlanta on what's at stake

today with this rally behalf of those supporting the president of the united states, charles. >> hey, good morning, neil. this is day number four, that supporters of president trump will gather outside of the georgia state capitol for what they're calling the stop the steal rally. organizers expect a large crowd here, people from all over the country here to atlanta, georgia to protest number one, president-elect biden's victory here in the state and number two, to try to put some pressure on governor brian kemp to call a special legislative session of some kind to rein in claims of voter fraud most of which have been unsubstantiated to this point. the secretary of state has been repeatedly defending the election results and the certified results were handed to the governor, but after a few thousand votes were found

in the initial recount, brian kemp is calling for a new audit as you mentioned. >> state law now requires the governor's office to formalize the certification which paves the way for the trump campaign to look at legal option ins a separate recount if they choosement we look at all discrepancies identified so that our citizens will have complete confidence in our elections. in the runoff election we cannot have lost memory cards or stacks of uncounted ballots. >> and look, as the georgia senate races heat up on their way to the january runoffs, officials in georgia are warning people, it is illegal to move to the state just so they can vote for senate candidates. state officials pointed out this tweet by 2020 democrat candidate andrew yang, as an

example. we're moving to georgia to help ossoff and warnock win. and if you move to georgia just to vote for senate candidates you will get in trouble. law enforcement are focusing on this rally and an anti-trump rally just around the corner from the state capitol, neil. so a busy day in georgia. neil: yeah, it sounds like it. you know, charles, curious, how do they prove someone is moving to vote in an election and then check how long they stay? because presumably they would move out after the election, how are they going to enforce that. >> it's unclear how they would enforce that, you brought up a good point. they would move here and vote and presumably move after the election, not clear, officials haven't said how they would track that or what the penalties would be for folks, but putting the message out, you'll get in trouble if you pull that sort of a stunt.

neil: charles, another thing, and laid it out with the count on the president's vote in the state and how it might spill over into the senate races. is it affecting people one way or the other? the president claims he won georgia, that the counts will show that and prove that when all is said and done, but i'm wondering whether it's hurting republicans, the in-fighting ahead of the runoff elections. >> there has been a lot of talk about that, neil. there's been the idea that if you have all of this in-fighting within the republican party, then it could possibly, you know, sort of sway voters to not even come out and vote because they don't see that unity going on within the party. it's something that folks are looking at right now, but of course, there's a lot of ground to make up before those runoff elections so we'll have to see what happens on election day in janua january. >> all right, thank you very much for that, my friend. great seeing you again, charles

watson, atlanta. as you said there are going to be protests on both sides there. georgia the peach state, not too peachy with the friction. we'll resolve is one way or the other. a lot of restrictions are being put into effect because of the spiking cases, and yesterday a record high here in a state of records, day after day that's prompted the restrictions on not only small businesses and restaurants and whether they'll even have restaurants open at all, to bars, schools, a lot more activity, that will be virtual or not in person and out on the west coast, you can imagine, it's not being received well. like it's not being received in lots of places. alicia kuna with the latest. hey, aaliyah alicia. >> and in the western states, i'm in one in colorado, restaurants had to close for in-person dining at 5 p.m.

local time and then bars closed a few hours later. i can tell you the colorado restaurant association incredibly frustrated looking at some of the numbers here in colorado and the covid spread because according to the numbers here in colorado, some of the most recent cases and the spread is when it comes to, like locations where it's happening. the restaurants are seeing 2% of the cases are coming out of restaurants so there's a huge pushback, a lot of frustration because they had to shut down and then reopen and then dial it back and then come, try and come back again. as we head into the holidays and the end of the year and the end of a lot of the federal funding right now, it's just been crippling for them. so you're seeing pushback there. in california diners are starting to experience closings there, and there are people there, again, the same as in colorado, just incredibly upset right now because he feel it goes too far and it's harming them in other ways, so there's an acknowledgment to the if iz cal death toll and the physical cost of all of this, but they

are really crying in such a loud way for people to hear the financial hurt that is happening as well. neil. neil: yeah, to your point, i mean, we were told, you know, the height of the pandemic back in the spring at least, and you reported on this as well, that restaurants alone one out of four would close and never reopen. i'm sure those numbers have gotten higher here and a lot of these, i believe in california where curfew is in effect 10 p.m. to 5 a.m., that can't be going down well either. no, it's not. and i mean, and with respect to the health care workers and the doctors who are asking people to stay home. this is such a delicate balance and it's a seemingly impossible sometimes especially when you're headed into the holiday. so we're definitely seeing that here as well. and i will tell you just from a personal perspective and full disclosure, my husband is a small business owner he and his brother and their friend own a

restaurant and did all they could to keep from laying off employees at the beginning of the year, they had brought them back and now struggling again. there are other layers that come with that because when you're trying to reopen and trying to just open in general, you're trying to get a lot of things done with the local governments, but you can't because of covid. so, this is a domino effect here. when we're talking closures and reopenings, it's not just as simple as closing your doors and reopening them. there's a process in place that has to be respected and it's difficult when you're in a pandemic. neil: yeah, to put it mildly. alicia, thank you very much. i wish your husband and his pals the best getting through it, but they're a microcosm of what's going on across the country. to alicia's point, we think about the interruptions, disruptions ap how many we can have in our house, it's a one-day event. a lot of us get ticked off. imagine being these guys trying

to make a living and they can't. and concerns with what the president-elect wants to do with his cabinet and we're told that he's already made up his mind on the treasury secretary, it's a big one after this.

>> all right. we have a lot going on. all we have been talking about is this darn bacon turkey thing. i know there's a lot of serious suffer going on, ever since the doocy thing with the bacon turkey i'm changing my entire thanksgiving plan. enough about me. back to right now what joe biden is planning now the president-elect we're told, meeting with transition advisors today. we also were told, teased this past week that he's decided at least on one cabinet position, to be announced close to thanksgiving, that would be for treasury secretary. hillary vaughan has been following him very, very closely. joins us out of wilmington with

the latest. >> there are reports that president-elect joe biden has made up his mind on more than one cabinet official so we're expecting we'll get at least more than one cabinet announcement next week. we know he made up his mind about his pick for treasury secretary, but part of the strategy to get these picks super early is to roll them out long ahead of time before the georgia runoff on january 5th and then use these cabinet picks to gin up support for his incoming administration. president-elect joe biden says he's picked his treasury secretary. we were on a call with transition officials yesterday when jim stocky told reporters that biden's cabinet will not be cozy with wall street. >> and i think it's safe to say that he's not a fan of wall street policies or an advocate for, you know, a lot of the policies that some people would be in favor of or fishing for from that end.

>> so here is who is on the short list for treasury secretary, former federal reserve governor ferguson, and janet yellin who aligned with senator warren they're placing their bets on and senator bernie sanders has been actively campaigning for a position. and the senate usually confirms the appointment when the president nominates to a position and he's putting pressure on the biden-harris administration not to pass over progressives, telling the associate press this yesterday, quote, it would be enormously insulting if biden put together a team of rivals which might include republicans and conservative democrats, but which ignored the progressive community. and neil, we could be getting an announcement next week on

secretary of state because axios is reporting he made up his mind on who he wants to appoint to that position already, neil. neil: moving fast. thank you very much. hillary have a great thanksgiving. i want to go back to walter, and we call him grandpa david asm asman. congratulations. i'm not going to let you let go of that. in this topsy-turvy world, we need to hear stuff like that. i'm wondering what you make of the back and forth on the cabinet positions and i've long subscribed, in his heart of hearts, maybe joe biden would prefer a republican senate because it would not put him under the pressure to do some of these names, but what do you think? >> well, i've heard you say that before and inclined to agree with you, although, you know, the pressure from the left is intensified by his vice-president pick kamala

harris. she's pretty far on the left. her voting record certainly indicates that from when she was in the senate. so it's not only going to be from the progressives like the quad, like ocasio-cortez and so forth, it's going to come right from his vp choice, that push to the left. however, having said that, there are people like janet yellin who i think will satisfy a lot of people who are in the progressive camp and a lot more moderate people because we've seen what she's done as fed chair. but she is also in favor of sol things or indicated being in favor of some things pretty radical leak like negative interest rates and things like that. i'm putting my money on janet yellin, but he went so far out on the left in primaries, being in favor of student loan forgiveness, in favor of green deal and carbon energy. he's still in the stage of

walking back and getting the support of 74 million trump voters or something-- he'll never get their full support, but at least some indication that he's recognized, he's got to governor the whole country and not just the people that voted for him. neil: you know, rebecca, i want to do a little bit of a what-if situation with you. everyone seems to think we'll have this republican senate, but what if, for whatever reason or reasons or maybe the count fight going on in georgia as we speak, that both those races actually go go to the democrats and the supposition that the tax increases and everything that joe biden is considering do go into play. then what? >> yeah, you should see the look of horror on my face. [laughter] >> to be in the middle of this pandemic and not-- and to be knowing we're on the verge of a second maybe massive shutdown, especially biden himself has talked about that, you know, to do that and raise

taxes at the same time, neil, if you want to see the greatest depression in the history of time, this is what it looks like, blue, blue, blue, tax hikes and shutdowns. we might as well, you know, basically all create our own jails and figure out how we're going to make our own food. >> wow. neil: a little extreme, but, david, what would the markets do, just on news of that, january 5th, january 6th, let's say we get the results that georgia are both democrats, then what? >> well, i wouldn't go as extreme as my fellow panelist, but, however, the markets would hate it. look, we've tried this before. the-- i think the worst economic policy decision of the obama-biden administration was coming out of a recession to raise taxes and increase regulations. that's exactly the opposite of what you want to do to get the economy turning again. you want to lower tax rates to increase incentives for businesses to grow, for people

to hire more individuals and it looks like -- if there is a democrat senate and a democrat house and a democrat president and you have the tax hikes, you're going to see disincentives for growth and you're going to see at the very least, you're going to see the same extraordinary slow recovery from the down side that you saw in 2009, 2010, 2011 of the obama-biden administration because they made that critical mistake of raising taxes and increasing regulations when they should have been doing exactly the opposite. neil: rebecca, obviously vaccines get a lot of attention from the market as we discussed the last hour, as the spike in cases in the virus are more of a short-lived concern and short-term concern. it's possible when all is said or done we could have four or

five vaccines or remedies or treatments to deal with the virus. the proposition whether that overcomes whatever impact this georgia race would have on the markets. what do you think? >> i don't know whether overcoming. i think i agree completely with david that we definitely do not need higher tax policy in recovery. let's assume that we were back to work and everything was open tomorrow. we're still in a recovery period, and the tax hikes in a recovery period are problematic as david mentioned, it's the slowest recovery in the history of america. the problem is, neil, we're talking about-- they're talking about shutting down and what about the vaccines-- i'm glad there's multiple because astrazeneca has a more traditional vaccine and some might be wary of the pfizer and moderna with new technology. it's good there will be choices so people that might be skeptical can go to something more traditional. bring them on, all kind, so we

can have america accept them en masse and get back to normal. we need to get back to normal if we can, if there's a new normal. neil: i don't remember what normal was now. >> right. neil: thank you guys, very, very much. rebecca and david. >> my pleasure. neil: thank you for coming in on a saturday. we have the election done and a house under democratic control though not as much democrat control and nancy pelosi has committed to being speaker, if she can get the deal done. one and done, she's saying after that, i don't want to lead these democrats. a fellow who gets a lot of attention to a likely successor to her after this. it's moving day. and while her friends

are doing the heavy lifting, jess is busy moving her xfinity internet and tv services. it only takes about a minute. wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours?

delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. now that's simple, easy, awesome. xfinity makes moving easy. go online to transfer your services in about a minute. get started today. >> we have worked with the biden administration to secure

commitment on a $2 trillion climate plan, but we're not going to stop there so we're going to organize and demand that this administration, which i believe is decent and kind and honorable, keep their promi promise. neil: all right. does that promise include a $2 trillion commitment to climate change? let's get a sense of this with dan kildee the chief house deputy whip from the beautiful state of michigan. always good to have you, congressman, and thank you for taking the time on a saturday. what you do you make of what alexandria ocasio-cortez was saying that this is part of what the ticket promised, that is the biden-harris ticket promised to commit to climate change. i don't know about the $2 trillion figure, but what do you think? >> i'm not sure they committed to that specific figure either. i know that they commit today take action on climate and we will. of course it's great to have voices that advocate for a

particular position. the business i'm in, how do we get 218 votes and get a bill through the senate which we don't know how the senate will be structured, but it's certainly going to be a close margin either way, so, you know, i think this is a question about what we aspire to and what we can actually achieve and i focus my attention on what's doable and i hope we're going to be able to take some steps, like, you know, for example, supporting the development of electric vehicles. that's something that i feel very strongly about and that i think could be a bipartisan effort. neil: you know, congressman, you mentioned it's about getting 218 votes. as things stand now, even though democrats maintain control of the house, it's 219 votes now, a couple of races to be decided, but your margin is 219-206. you game in 232-197. so you might be very limited in what you can do. are you worried? >> you know, it's-- governing is difficult and being in the majority is

difficult no matter what the numbers is, more difficult with a number like this for sure, but i think it does force us to think very carefully and strategically about what we can get done. the people i work for don't want me to take positions and pass bills in the senate and go to the president's desk. they want things done. governing is hard and i think this will force us to have to make decisions, to compromise, to find middle ground. there are republicans who were work with us on some of our initiatives and there may be some democrats who don't agree with some initiatives that come out of the white house or our majority. so we've got to find 218 votes. we've got to find the senate majority and i honestly, neil, i think ins just one of those moments where it seems more divisive. but maybe it actually gives us a chance to find that middle ground and put the country together and make the progress that we'll live to fight another day for some of the priorities that members are advocating for that they can't get the votes for. neil: you know, we heard about

this commitment, congressman, on the part of nancy pelosi. it looks like there's no one coming out to challenge her, but that she would once again lead democrats in the house, so she would be speaker for at least another two years, and she has signaled that would be it. is that her intention? do you know that to be the case? one and done-- not one and done, but one more and done, i guess. >> i haven't spoken to her specifically about that. i did talk to her yesterday, but on some other topics. you know, it will be up to the caucus, it's obviously up to her whether she wants to continue. i think she's been a good speaker and certainly has earned another term, but we take these one term at a time and-- >> is anyone else challenging her? do you know? i mean, i don't, last time i checked it didn't look like that, but there are a lot of people who are upset with her. what do you think? >> well, i get it. people have differences within our party and with people on the other side of the aisle, but there's no challenge. if somebody is so upset that they would like to challenge

her, they're froo he free to do that. i think she'll prevail and very much will be the next speaker in the coming term. so, you know, there's always grumbling and especially after an election where, you know, the outcome wasn't precisely what was predicted. there's always grumbling, but at the end of the day, you know, we have to come together and try to get things done and i think this speaker has proven she's capable of doing that and for that reason i'll support her and it's clear to me that the caucus will as well. neil: you know, the concern though, congressman is that the leadership now, with the big exception of you, they're all over 130 years old. maybe i'm exaggerating, maybe 1 120, they're all over 80. as i get older i'm not going after older people.

your name has come up. i'm wondering down the road should the party look or at least look around at younger people? >> well, i think at some point in time it's inevitable, obviously. i'm say right now about our three top leaders, i would challenge anybody to try to keep up with them. specifically i've done a lot of work with nancy pelosi and i've never seen a person with greater energy and stamina. neil: i get that and i-- i always say that when people channel challenge me, you've been at fox forever, and i say i challenge you to keep up with me, and by the way it's easy to keep up with me, i'm so slow. having said that, congressman, i'm wondering whether alexandria ocasio-cortez or some of the other progressive groups who are demanding more forthright in your face leadership, whether they're going to weigh on this decision process maybe more than you think? >> well, i think everybody will weigh in. you know, i think we have a--

as you know, a diverse caucus and that's one of the things that makes my job as chief deputy whip challenging. everyone has an equal voice when we walk into the room, some from the center, some from the left and the whole point is we argue, we argue within the family, but once the argument is over we move forward. i understand there are different points of view and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is one of those very strong voices, but there are many voices that also express their views and you know, in the mix of all of those voices we'll move forward. neil: very diplomatically answered. let me ask you the providence of the house to take up tax issues and there are many looking at the economy and the bumps it's been having with the rise in cases that regardless of what joe biden wants to do to raise taxes on what he says is only the $400,000 and over crowd, next year, early next year, might not be the time to do it. do you agree with that?

do you think tax increases should be put off, regardless who they're on? >> well, i think the biggest priority has to be stimulating the economy. i was listening to some of your previous guests talk about that, the most important way to do that is to stimulate private investment. i do think there will be a time for us to take another look at the 2017 tax bill, but i am not one who believes that we should simply repeal it. i think a much more targeted approach that requires some of those individuals and corporations that under this new law have been able to avoid paying taxes at all, that should be the focus, but i think the initial priority has to be getting through this coronavirus pandemic, putting an infrastructure bill on the floor that hopefully will be bipartisan, that will require some revenue for sure, and then moving forward and looking more thoroughly at the tax code. i don't believe that it would be in the interest of the country to simply throw it in

reverse and repeal the 2017 tax law. there was some benefits in that, both to business and to individual that i think we ought to be able to retain and take a much more targeted approach to making sure that there's fairness in the tax code. >> all right. we'll watch it very, very closely. dan kildee, the chief house deputy whip. have a safe thanksgiving. >> thank you. neil: well, he did raise a couple of possibilities that in this environment maybe now is not the time to move on the tax thing, not across the board, but we'll see the fallout after this. - when i noticed my sister moving differently,

she said it was like someone else was controlling her mouth. her doctor said she has tardive dyskinesia, which may be related to important medication she takes for her depression. td can affect different parts of the body. - [narrator] in today's trying times, we're here to help you manage td. visit talkabouttd.com for a doctor discussion guide to prep for your next appointment in person,

over the phone, or online. - we were so relieved to learn there are treatments for td. >> all right. just, we've had a number of issues trying to reach the georgia secretary of state. he was scheduled to be on our show as he was about a week ago. he of course has been under fire from virtually every prominent republican in the state including two running for senate right now that he's done a bad job handling the vote count in georgia and even the wrath of the president of the united states. and the governor of georgia called for an audit after the count was deemed official. again, still trying for the secretary of state and what happened here. but the lt. governor was kind enough to call us and is on the phone with us jeff duncan i had

the pleasure to chatting with you. governor, very good to have you. as things stand now the governor kemp has asked for an audit and seems he still has the same reservations about the count in your state as did the president. i could be misreading that. can you characterize where things are right now? >> yeah, and this is just my perspective. obviously shall the secretary of state signed off on the certification and the governor did yesterday evening on his portion of it and i believe his recommendations are hey, look, let's continue to take a look at this and make sure there is no sort of systemic issues in the future. let' make sure that every vote's counted every legal vote is counted. what we're learning here in georgia is we can continue to do better, we can continue to fine tune this process and i know as the president of the senate will come into the session and look for opportunities to make improvements with how we conduct elections here.

to be honest with you, a lot of this is the result of covid. we kind of changed -- every state changed our approach and the absentee ballots became a lot more of a higher volume way to vote and we certainly need to make sure we make those adjustments. neil: but it seems, lt. governor, that the governor has implied there, that, you know, this is not an official or even an accurate county and that the audit revealed significant errors that were made in the number of counties. so, is he saying that in his mind donald trump actually won georgia? >> i would point you to the governor for his words and not mine. and identifying a handful of isolated issue around the state. some county had memory sticks that were not added to the tally and some errors. all said and done, a minor adjustment to the overall vote count and vice-president biden

it looks like he's secured the votes to secure the electoral votes in georgia. neil: nothing in another count or an audited count or a fresh count, a new hand count, will alter that view that you have that joe biden won the state of georgia, albeit by closer, but nothing will reverse that? >> well, there's certainly additional times, i know the president and his team up until tuesday can file for additional recount. and we want to make sure that it provides every opportunity. but this point, neil, i encourage anybody in any party, in any vote and step up and give us an exact incident, machine or precinct where we can send a whole team of investigators to and unpack any sort of systemic anomalies or mass issues around fraud. we have standby ready and that's bipartisan offer.

that's not at republican lt. governor, that's as somebody elected to represent 11 million georgians. neil: you've been kind to come on. the president tweeted big voter fraud information coming out in georgia. stay tuned. does he know something you don't know? >> i certainly have not talked to the president today and like i said, there's still legal opportunities out there for them and their team. if there's proof, if there's absolute substance. neil, as i said yesterday, it concerns me that america watered itself down awn taking 7% of the facts whether from a facebook post or a tweet and assembling that fact from fiction and that concerns me? is the president doing that, risking doing that or sending

misleading information? >> i think we need to make sure we focus in on absolute facts and not fiction. if there are facts let's investigate them and move forward. at this point i have not had anything arrive at my desk to show a systemic issue aside from a one-off anomaly other than those they were able to catch the handful of votes this were added to the tally. neil: lt. governor, thank you again. it was nice of you to call in today. second time in as many days. hope you have a safe thanksgiving yourself and your family. the lt. governor geoff duncan. until the tally joe biden is the winner. we'll have more after this. and it's made for her she's serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids

usaa is easy to work with and can save you money on auto, home and renters insurance. become a member today. get an insurance quote at usaa.com/quote usaa. what you're made of we're made for 'tis the season to be cheersin'. get cheersin' with all with new holiday drinks at dunkin'. send a virtual cheersin' with the dunkin' app.

a livcustomizeper iquickbooks for me. send a virtual cheersin' okay, you're all set up. thanks! that was my business gi, this one's casual. get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks.

>> all right. you just heard from the lt. governor of georgia who made it very, very clear that things stand the way they are now,

while there might be some irregularities here and there, not in significant enough number for the president to keep pushing for the hint of things being rigged or that he was robbed of a victory in his state. how this impacts what's going on in the two senate races, to say nothing about what's going on to a close house. i want to get into this with harold ford, jr., and former chairman of merrill-lynch. congressman always good to see you. congressman, your thoughts on georgia back and forth and recounts and all of that. the president of course is well within his rights to get the counts rights, but when he's charged as he has this morning, big voter fraud information is coming out in georgia and the lt. governor of the state knows nothing about that, what do you think? >> first, thanks for having me on and happy thanksgiving. listening to lt. governor duncan was refreshing for nos of us who love our country and

love our party if we're not in the same party. he laid out pretty clearly that votes were candidated and his candidate of choice lost, but he has a responsibility to declare the winner. his state has done that. i hope we can move on from this. just to put it in perspective, trump has lost by 70 electoral votes, he lost the popular vote by 7 million votes and there are 28 judges across the country who listened to his lawyers or his case and dismissed that or the trump team in their complaint. we have to recognize that transition is underway and sharing info about covid, russia, china, north korea, iran and other adversaries information is important for the new administration to get their hands on and whatever changes that we have to do to ensure that mail-in voting works better we must focus on that. but there were efforts prior to

this to try to get states and try to provide federal dollars to states and localities to ensure that they had the manpower, men and women and if they had the resources needed not only to count properly, but ensure that legal ballots were cast. i think you're right. the president has a right to make sure that every legal vote is counted and we know that's happened because the governor and secretary of state and others have done their job and completed their duty by certifying the vote. neil: well, the governor is still open to an audit and calling into question. the lt. governor of course disagrees with that, but to your point, i see on your part, hypocrisy on the part of many democrats who say-- when they have quite a different view four years ago and to say nothing 20 years ago, i know different strokes for different folks, different time periods and elections, i get that.

the official democratic view is that anything the president is asking is just silly, when, in fact, in some of the states mr. were a number of weird things going on. wouldn't it be good to investigate them regardless of the outcomes and unlikely possibility that it changes that outcome? i agree with you, it probably does not, but that they feel short shrift with some of the protests going on, many in support of the president in georgia that we're looking at right now because of the double standard that democrats have. what do you make of that? >> i differ a bit with you about that. i think for any race, any office, particularly the presidency you'll have supporters of the loser make the case. i was criticized 20 years ago, neil. my dear friend, my godfather and al gore, i'm from tennessee, and the voting for george bush that they would

stop. at no time did president clinton, not have access for george bush for peaceful transfer of power and transition. were there democrats that donald trump beat hillary clinton, was i one of them? yes. did i try to call into question and discredit election integrity in the nation. neil: do you ever think that donald trump will concede ever? >> i don't know. what i do hope he will do is start the transition and call on his chief administration to share that info. i pray that he does so that we can move forward as a nation. neil: hasn't happened yet. harold ford, jr., on whether

the president will concede, if he ever concede we just don't know. after this.

>> all right. at the scene right now in atlanta, georgia. those who are protesting on behalf of the president of the united states and that the count must go on. the count in georgia seems to be official right now, but the governor himself is still open to another one that would ratify that ratification over my level of comprehension here, but not over frank luntz. he wants the county to continue. when is it a zero sum mission. >> it doesn't matter in georgia

if it doesn't happen in pennsylvania. it doesn't matter in arizona if it doesn't happen in wisconsin. the president has to make a decision soon. do you want to have an impact on the georgia senate races. that's important right now. whoever wins the races, determines policy not just for the next election, but potentially for a generation beyond. are we going to add two new states, are we going to pack the courts? if he depresses georgia's turnout they could give the senate to the democrats. he has to weigh that on how to proceed. neil: is your polling and information, that his fight in georgia to say nothing elsewhere is hurting these senate republicans' chances? no, it's not, but it could because the question to are go ga-- everyone has made up their

minds, there are no undecided voters. i will and share with the viewers. the question is turnout. will the democrats be more likely to vote because they've elected the president and they want him to have sway in washington d.c. or the republicans turn out for a check on joe biden's power. it would be very, very foolish for the republicans to decide i don't like the results of the election and i'm not going to participate and give joe biden a blank check to do anything he wants to do, but that could happen. our polling has it as a dead heat in both races. neil: real quickly and i mean real quickly, have we ever had a case in modern time of a president not attending a president's successor's election. >> we had hubert hoover not talking to fdr on the entire ride. neil: but he was there.

>> he was there. good question. neil: good answer, thank you very much. hope springs eternal. what a year and don't get me started on the bacon turkey thing. there is that. fox news continues. thanks! that was my business gi, this one's casual. get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks.

>> we are now just minutes away from nasa sending a new satellite into orbit. the central 6 michael freilich. i'm alicia acuna from denver. leland: i'm leland vittert. we're going to bring you that live, 16 minute from now and tell you what that satellite is going to do. but first, president trump is meeting with world leaders today in what they're calling a virtual g20 summit. mark meredith live on the lawn of the white house and the