lindor. made to melt you. by the lindt master chocolatier. howard: this is "media buzz" i am howard kurtz president trump escalating attack on election despite legal setbacks the latest one in pence each talking to republican lawmakers who like flipped states by naming pro-trump electoral del gates media ramping up attacks over blocking a transition with joe biden team over rudy giuliani's wild press conference, repeatedly declaring victory. >> i won you will find that out almost 74 million votes, we had big pharma against us,

we had media against us, we had big tech against a us. >> continuing insistence that election was fraudulent willingness to fire top fish, encouragement coverage to intorz trying to sabotage. >> my mouth agape when watching this rudy giuliani rambling on about wild conspiracy theories. >> time to tell the president that he and rudy and confederacy need to stop making fools of themselves. and let the next commander in chief get ready to protect and defend this country. >> this is a president, this is a nation, that has just the been wrong mightily, only an idiot would try to claim there were no irregularities that no anomalies the president wants a few weeks count every legal vote investigate every claim fraud and abuse, and media acts like the world is ended.

obviously, last four years -- >> joining us now to an nooiz coverage guy benson host of guy benson fox news radio. >> liz clayman, on fox business and former democratic congressman from tennessee media in total revolt of against president trump attacks, refusal to concede this election, trump is conducting assault on our democracy jake tapper cnn state of the union said trump is trying to under mini democracy is this fair. >> i think the president deserves credit the way he and team are handling in loss some sound bites we heard from a xhub of commentators i agree count every vote make sure all legal cross every "t," do the every i, pursue legitimate questions, and irregularities, or allegations, but that is

different than declaring victory, repeatedly. alleging mass fraud of which there simply is not evidence and that is not me speaking that is the trump legal team in court, i think the canyon between what they are saying in they being atrical press conferences vrz versus in court under oath at least professional issues that arise or legal issues that arise if you don't tell the truth to a judge i think that that gap is -- pretty telling. >> on that point the media has obligation to cover every lawsuit filed by president we have seen the federal judge pennsylvania tossing the suit saying they are trying to diswith sfrach seven million voters based on stwraind legal gamuts speculation unsupporting trump fired security chief saying he didn't agree with the conclusion, that there is no widespread fraud what is your

take on the media coverage? >> well, the media has been showing up to every event from the four seasons total landscaping event to of course rudy giuliani news conference i have to say when you look at the judge, from last night threw out that case a republican judge, are who is a member of the federalist society so this isn't some republican -- you know, center left or you know they call them rinos republican in name only, this is a very respected judge looked at evidence said you guys have brought together very ill defined conjecture there is scarcity of legally acceptable evidence that you are presenting that you are supposed ep to before a judge. when you have howie, the president from corner right to saying we are out we can't do this anymore, because we don't see an even possible attempt at winning here that is a problem, i think that is this is when do we see lawyers don't want to take money,

since they look at evidence and say, there is no this there, there that is the issue the media covered it when i say the media bring that up, that is fox news "new york times," left, right, everybody. >> president on tweetstorm about challenging election results ways in which he thinks he can win media are just as corrupt as election itself my question is are the media basically reporting the faction of all the press conferences, litigation or using this period to indulge in their sometimes hostility towards president trump? >> -- i think that the -- range of media making the case, that -- trump lawyers are may being the results are getting done is reporting it, supporting it thomas jefferson, let -- with freedom comes responsibility we

americans have a responsibility -- as we think about -- the president team has responsibility of the law facts in law collide, i am hopeful that at a minimum this is the president trump team will allow the administrator to begin -- sharing of information from covid to china to russia to go are north korea state of affairs, if and when done i think the president knows he lost, we have a peaceful transfer a of power new administration to -- >> let's turn to 90 minute rather wild rudy giuliani press conference that has gotten a lot of attention, taking a question from the reporter. >> -- cnn, [laughter] >> to go around, the outrageous iron concur tape of

censorship get faction to the american people that if you are a fair and honest network, you would have been reporting the last two weeks. >> guy benson where from alleging fraud irregularities various stated losses talking about international conspiracy, to steal millions of votes from trump to biden, my question is i am calling -- calling bidens crooks, by the way, wouldn't you expect media pushback on that? what would conservative reaction be if a president obama or clinton had -- was in this position make these kinds of arguments? >> we would be going to have a apoplectic that is, obviously, as to that quip about cnn everyone laufrg the question coming from cnn, you can ask legitimate questions right now especially based on what trump team is attempting to do what they are saying without basis in fact that can come from any news organization, the issue that cnn has is they have been

so relentlessly hostile to this president for four years, i mean to a point that has been almost, comical right almost cartoonish how much they hate him he them a network don't have a an opinion -- i think their programming belies those slogans, so they do not have a lot of credibility with anyone who is remotely similar thought he toik president trump given their editorial hostility toward him four years, so, i think that when everyone is going to 11 out of tip all the time for, entire presidential term emergency room where a outraged with about everything might become you know boy who cried wolf when there is time to raise serious concerns, many people tune them out so i think it is up to other people more fair to the president, to tell the truth. howard: very elizabeth that same giuliani presser he also pushed back hard against question from report aer for the conservative dailily caller so don't always break down left-right, in media.

>> well sure, talk about 800 pound gorilla in the room the president has lashed out at fox news, but let's be very clear about something, i am going to defend fox news very hard on this one. fox news aside from the prime time opinion shows some opinion shoes on weekend, fox news is a news operation, they have covered this case, they have looked very fairly at much of it and when you have reporters top reporters eric shawn jonathan hunt steve doocy all names, peter doocy, jackie, doing yeoman's duty here as news organization what do they see? they they rudy giuliani coming up talking about quote hack judges, referencesed all kinds of things like -- dictator saying they were behind the one dead one alive, then no hard evidence. and as they look at it and demand it tucker carlson o

other night demand hard refereed prosecute sidney powell trump attorney did not get it, what is a reporter doing here they are looking at this i don't know rudy giuliani, jedi master level effort self destruction on national stage howie, saying -- we have judges who are republican who are -- this out we have attorneys, we have you know a lot of legislators right now. who are saying forget it they are covering the story as it proceeds. howard: well that is what a news organization does i know some think fox should back president no matter what we have to follow facts, reuters poll says 68% republicans say they are concerned the election was rigged, that is a worded that president trump often uses, so his message is getting out, at least, at this point. >> this is what happened, i remember in 2000 when 2000 race was contested i was one of the first in not the first

to congratulate george w. bush a huge supporter of al gore i was criticized by some democrats for doing it then i think republicans have to step forth, the question around media any media person can ask a question of a politician or someone making a claim he o defend position regardless of media organization that is not what is happening joe biden -- polls the other way you talked about we entered era we think republican judges, established, are democratic network for side of democrats we need to get back to regular order some would say in washington identical joe biden might be all people the right person at this time to help do that. howard: all right, guy on level president trump taking heat from media for invalue iting republican lawmaker from michigan to white house, and part of effort, he comes out says to get to flip their states they said no, no we think vote count was fine are the media right or

wrongdoering in saying that this is pretty unprecedented, and troubling? >> it is troubling, and people are going to be mad i say that, but are our job is to tell the truth. and it is troubling good news us this is on the record before meeting ever happened some republicans top republican legislators leaders in some states that are contested, had come out to my knowledge unanimously said we are aren't taking any sort of pressure people have spoken in our states the winner of our states are will get legislators that is the way it ought to be should not be controversial thing to say. howard: right, you know there is stranger that since elections, president trump usually talks to press all the time hasn't taken a single question from reporters, nearly three weeks, being many demanding president give joe biden team transition briefing because of the pandemic, later, sharyl attkisson on

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howard: ask a donald trump, jr., latest to test positive for the coronavirus, this is the american death toll passes 250,000 mark, are president is joined media for focusing on election battle that criticism is starting with joe biden. >> more people may die. if we don't coordinate. >> there has been no effort by the trumpers except to put trump's political health first not your health, literally, trumpers risking the safety of so many of you trump is upset about his fate. >> kamala harris and joe biden they have a lot of work to do, after months of fearmongering about a vaccine, essentially

if they don't turn this around and start talking positively about vaccines, they are essentially killing people. howard: ask a some democratic officials not to mention cdc urging people cancel holiday plans some -- >> liberals who wore 14i7 at altar of fouchi have no problem reaching into your homes demanding, that you behave in a certain way, if you had thanksgiving plans? they want to shame you into cancellation them. >> politicians said they have total power over you can decide who comes to thanksgiving dinner at your house and where they can stand. lunatic never happened with american history before. howard: there were 1 98,000 new covid cases friday alone the extent that people are being urged not to travel thanksgiving should that be

portrayed as assault on issue civil liberties. >> senator ric scott tested positive friday republicans from florida issuing a statement after testing positive, said listen to the public health experts. translations, you really do want to be awfully carefully perhaps saying something that is that serious, that focused pinpointed, shows that there are a lot of people who are rational and thinking about this, not necessarily dr. fauci but people like representatives and senators who tested positive, again, why republican has to go, and get out there before people listen to it that is the state we are in right now i would say that american medical association howie american nurses association they have all really gotten concerned about this, we've got terrible number -- >> it is from us freighteding

don'tvist grandparents gavin newsomols those a swanky birthday party no being masks people sitting together do you see merging war on manager manager. >> the selective shaming is frustrating to a lot of americans you 911s governmentio newsom that is one, in chicago, in washington, d.c., making exemptions for themselves to their rules, photos over weekend of democratic political fund-raisers indoors in new york city where they closed schools against, the best scientific evidence. so a lot of people sit at home, see their hypocrisy the media loving crowds people celebrating joe biden's win

shaming the maga rally, it feels like a lot is political, it should not have to feel that way but that is on leadership, that is i think on the media to a certain extent. and just to be transparent howie as soon as this show is over we are driving up to thanksgiving to see my family, are smaller group we have been isolating got tested wearings about masks social distancing but making smart i think safe choices for our family what public officials should to encourage give tips rather than finger wagging shaming seems to not always apply to sneefrn i hope you enjoy food double standard you point out a fair point however, the media it seems democratic officials love lockdowns republicans care more about struggling businesses, is that i have noted that you have republicans governors yieta north dakota ohio issuing restrictions in light of this

fall surge. >> we don't need another lockdown certainly don't need a patchwork system to deal with 24 we need a national system national strategy, are i would push back a little bit, some of the are in a tifz i know at a americans are going to be safe vigilant doesn't hurt public health experts infrastructure to courage it in the strongest of ways, remember the people many have 20 take care of people, come down with the virus face awfully, awfully health situation frontline workers nurses others 2409 we might be in better position i can only hope whatever you may do thanksgiving i am normally hosted 40 people at home, i would assume a lot of americans will be i wish -- after thanksgiving hope they do very best safe, socially distance. >> i agree with that.

>> all right, joe biden is now ratcheting up rhetoric about a presidential needs to authorize transition so he and team especially can get up to speed, on pfizer moderna venezuela vaccine he will be in charge of distributing. >> fox business we covered supply chain challenges i can tell you, this is a bear of effort ahead you've got to move vaccine millions,millions doses scatter it throughout united states, by the way, a lot of the cases are in red states the moment, and rural areas so you've got to work on that you've got to get national coordination with, you know, issue frees gerz down to 90 minus 09 degrees, looking at a very big challenge here, and there has to be coordination, with the gsa, mia, emily, not kind of

making that happen, to every american i would say. >> huge challenge thank you all liz clayman guy benson harold ford we will drill down on charges made at that rudy giuliani press conference concluding his attacks on the press.

howard: rudy giuliani made far-ranging conspiracy allegations at that rambling news conference featured tens exchanges with he reporters some hard to follow. >> as to you should have asked me, and you should be more astounded, that our votes are counted, in germany, and in spain, by a company owned by affiliates of chauvinees and maduro. >> joining us, news correspondent griff jenkins when giuliani talking about late kaezar chauvinees soros

jenna he willsis talked communist money financing widespread election or what are they talking about providing evidence? >> not providing any evidence good morning to you they are ub what they are baseless unsubstantialed conspiratorial sears allegations president trump former cyber security chief he fired called most dangerous in 45 minutes american television history the thing, i got off the phone with jenna ellis part that have legal team and said what do you have to say about these claims that you have no i have had she says that look, they do not intend to file at any point in the coming days in court a complaint or lawsuit related to the charges of a massive global conspiracy related to this dominion voting system. however, did tell me they 13we7bd to push very hard on cases particularly pennsylvania they believe they have the strongest case, of course, we just had a judge

yesterday rule that -- threw out lawsuit didn't have merits she said a lawsuit that was not handled properly be will be back intend to care in the courts pence elsewhere perhaps michigan between now and december 14 to be clear relates to venezuela, maduro, soros conspiracy do not spend to legally challenge it. of. howard: thanks for that updated reporting griff earlier we played sound bite of rudy giuliani kind of laughing at cnn reporter here responding to question from report from conservative daily caller. >> -- >> we're not going to drag it out i mean this is ridiculous for you to say we are dragging it out our witnesses don't want to be exposed to at the te tenderer mercies of vicious

left. >> you have peggy noonan rich lowry talking about trump's ugly exit mad at a lot of people in the media right now. >> a bipartisan media, with everyone pulling you the out liz clayman was telling me, you know tucker carlson is even saying look sidney powell you don't have evidence of conspiratorial surpass get rid of it we saw object shows chris christie big sprr president trump saying this is getting to the disappoint that going to be with embarrassing an obligation to present evidence or, you know, get rid of it and stop making claim because it is going to hurting representationings. >> have when why youedy says -- can't share them, thanks as always after break former cbs reporter sharyl attkisson.

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questions from report trustworthiness sessions mainly asked about donald trump why he won't cooperate. >> what do you see as biggest threat to your transition right now given president trump's unprecedented attempts to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power. >> what is your message to republicans who are backing up the president's refusal to concede? >> how many do you think are at frisk transition main stauldz what do you think with of americans especially immigrant americans came to united states looking for political stability seeing all the things the president is doing . >> joining us to talk about media sharyl attkisson, author of slanted how knew media taught us to love censorship hate journalism a lot of people ep do hate journalism

based on questions you saw some about future policy totally appropriately many gold-plated invitation to say donald trump do you believe the press is holding joe biden to same standard as incumbent president. >> they have no doubt that is not the case probably not going feedback the case beyond how this impact a candidate or political figure there is great harm being done, to our industry and public ability to trust the things that we report, and trust that rer coming at new stories with a neutral viewpoint a fair analysis of what is going on rather than trying to take one side or the other and i think that is the problem, when it comes to hard journalism. >> so that you have been -- he retweeted you this morning you criticized media negative coverage of him, in many ways, last four years rad calized you, your view of the press? >> well, i think i continue to

launch a continue um i looked at saw political corporate interests flugz topics we do don't cover on news tracked how they game commonplace in news we started to hire some, kind do have what they say but they are us now, in my view, then in 2016 i tracked with a lot of fast -- footnotes citations, how leaps and bounds forward devolutino to at least give a sembranns of firewall between opinions facts threw it out the window even geared on by nonprofit, watchdog organizations, professors, are "new york times" as if we were proud to do this. i see it as a dangerous --

public confidence, things we report, obviously, people see that differently that is just from where i sit. howard: well we want your take let me quote your book you talk about power of media narratives wrote trump is vehicle the media at large has used to unleash furor recan he we do fine journalism what do you mean by that talk about needing critical negative kovrm of interest of i word it differently i have been critical not that he has gotten negative coverage, i have been critical of the double standard on mistakes false news lobbed at him unskeptically by a press very anxious to take a side when it comes to this president you need to like they have done as far as i have seen to no other this is something if we step back we would understand harmful, to us as a profession and public confidence the confidence public has what we are reporting doing where we

appear to be taking sides, so vehemently, many situations, they come to distrust everything we report telling the truth or not taking a side then we turn around -- are you seeing that happen? >> are you seeing that happen consider legitimate reporting in this postal election period with president attacks contesting this election do you think the media loss of credible otherwise making people not believe straight news reports. >> some people yes, i sense that there would have been no harm for straight news o reporters to not take a side in this but instead of saying one side is being ridiculous, lying unpatriotic could not -- neutral press that simply says here what is they say and what public determined what they think about it may think it is ridiculous, they can think for themselves report what is known about the other side, and hold off on putting your

own opinions and you disthe disparagement the public doesn't trust rest what have you say don't know where line is drawn they think you've got a horse in the fight. >> two more things to get would one o early in pandemic the "new york times," branded you one of five top coronavirus doubters you were retractions? what happened. >> well they this covid put false information in there i had only done factual reporting very little about coronavirus at that point in time. not near as much as staff reported but clearly trying to get a narrative out for some reason against me and other people maybe who they thought we might cover, you false information false quotes able to get multiple corrections, many people don't see the corrections, they only see

original report and i write about it in my book that is -- for those trying to press a narrative they know if they get the woushd out even if not true, by the time corrected a lot of people will never see that. >> briefly, you -- reports -- walter cronkite would roll over in graif crafted contrasted the way you are in a rated. >> wrap up the news conference with a president not even think whether we liked him or not or agreed with what he said would repeat a summary of what he said compared to anderson cooper come out of a trump income saying something like that was most ridiculous outrageous thing i have heard. >> disgraceful. >> how different it was from

1990 we talk about that interviews from news skists from broadcast networks concerned some rhetoric, turn news has taken not just cnn but across our industry. >> cooper used the word disgraceful, the book is slanted good to see you sharyl attkisson thank you for being here geraldo rivera weighs in on trump election battle his conversation with an old friend. that is next. .

howard: joining us now from cleveland longtime friend donald trump geraldo rivera, hi, there, you spoke to the president a little more than a week ago you said he told you, that he was quote a realist would do the right thing. is he doing the right thing now by continuing to claim that he won this election? >> the well, when we had the conversation, howie it seemed to me grudgeingly good morning to the conclusion he lost the election, that if the various lawsuits et cetera did not play out, that he would go along with the traditional process that was he totally my impression he wouldn't be clinging to the resolute desk in the oval office that would conceded election or at least, go through with a with transition. that was on a friday week ago friday. on saturday if you recall he

went to play golf drove through the crowds of reporters that gathering almost spontaneously in washington, d.c., seems to me love, and the determination of his supporters that was demonstrated there as he drove through the crowd as he waved to everybody, strengthened his resolve or changesed his mind in a way that made him much more defiant, much more resistant to what seem increasingly obvious that he lost the election. >> you wanted him to win there is no question, you described him in this conversation as being angry disalu shubd somewhat wounded do you think he should graciously conceded this election. >> i do i want eliminate to show grace, good manners honor the tradition the election 2020 is lost, i felt very embarrassed watching another -- rudy giuliani and team

sidney powell the others seemed bizarre, disconnected press conference raising allegations that when firmly far side of the moon so far as i was concerned i met hugo chauvinees he couldn't make a traffic light warm in car being a kass during time i knew him before he paced away george soros that old -- again seemed clinton foundation, come on, this is this is silly stuff, and i think that what it did was you know lower in my view and i think ep view of many people will who love the president, the whole position of a noble well thought he contest in when he defied odds pollsters defied wounded the democratic party in a way that was very historic profound even, and when circus came to town seemed to me to be -- a

die version from noble image i would like my friend to have. >> let me play a clip has a lot of attention tucker carlson caulking about dealings with trump attorney sidney powell. >> invited to appear on show i would have given her whole hour never sent any evidence despite a lot of requests plight when when she got angry told us to stop contacting. >> sidney powell told fox news tucker was rude, what is your take on latest twist. >> putting aside tucker's rudeness i think a different issue, totally agree with hims substantially, sidney powell that press conference was as disconnected from reality, as rudy giuliani was. in a way they were enabling each other, i have been around, when pennsylvania

drooped suit in michigan the other legal domino's starts falling became obvious we are not going to reverse results of the election. we're not belarus not uganda we don't reverse presidential elections unless there is some obvious he e-mailed easily provincial reason for it to bring in notion of mysterious forces changing computers seemed almost like, you know, to ufo kind of story. the. >> i was quoting sidney powell in terms of dealings with tucker carlson. >> you are getting -- suggesting vaccine should be named after president trump -- your response. >> well, my wife says she is a democrat is a that we should name it the fauci. i may be i made it half in

jest i said should be called the trump at least a consolation prize of some sort, there is no doubt that he was the driving fosts behind operation warp speed, maybe his motives were political that he wanted it in time for the election so he could be, see i got you the vaccine i cured, i cured this awful global pandemic. it did not happen i think the politics did fluz timing of announcement of the vaccine should he get some credit for it i don't care about mockery what do i care about brian request williams his opinion don lemon never said anything nice about me in 51 years i have been on still on -- i am still here. howard: ro i got it i got 20 seconds, "washington post" says president talking about giving speeches writing a book maybe starting a network in 204 do you think he knows that ultimately he lost -- >> as i said, as he said quoting him he is a realist he

knows everything we know also a very proud man. and he will come around, you know, thanksgiving is a good week for it to happen i think that all will be well biden will get info he needs if he hasn't all right. we will go on the 46th president we will have to live happily ever after until -- don't think you have heard the last of donald trump. if you do you don't know 2 man very well. howard: i would never suggest you go that but for now we have heard he the last, geraldo thanks very much still to come, christiane amampour. white house prose corps -- stay with us.

>> we told you big compared this -- she said this. >> it is the event that began the horrors of the holocaust. i also noted president trump attacks on history, facts, knowledge and truth and i should not have juxtaposed the two thoughts, hitler and his evil stands alone in history. i regret any pain my statement may have caused. howard: but remember and regarding any pain you may have caused is not an apology. there was little media coverage and no public comment from cnn. andrew cuomo began a media hero in the early days of epidemic with witty daily briefings but new york governor has taken heat for the pressure this week in which he scolded reporters beginning with "the wall street journal" correspondent whether he would intervene to close new york city's public schools the next day. >> first of all, let's try not

to be obnoxious and offensive. in your tone. you are at 100% wrong. >> we did it already. that is the law. in an orange zone, red zone, follow the facts. >> i'm confused. >> then you are confused. i don't think that's of noxious question. >> well, i don't care what you think. howard: cuomo is known as one of the toughest nails politician who pushes back and we got a glimpse of that side. cuomo who disputes criticism that his policies contributed to nearly 7000 nursing home deaths have been awarded an international emmy for his masterful use of television which seems odd until you consider that this group is also literal's like al gore, oprah winfrey. vice president pence and the rotavirus task force held their first televised briefing and months after growing criticism in the white house and when they left without taking questions the white house press corps

erupted. >> you all need to answer this. you are not working with the president. you are all undermining the job, everyone of you. howard: that was hunter walker shouting your uncle undermining the democratic election for they should've taken a questions but some of that shouting looks bad. it sounded pretty partisan. rachel maddow returned to msnbc after self quarantine revealing that her partners had a very bad case of the virus and how much it has shaken her. >> susan has been sick with covid these past couple of weeks. at one point we really thought that there was a possibility that it might kill her. whatever you are doing, however you calibrated risk in life don't get this thing. howard: well, i'm glad it turned out well and yes that advice is

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♪ eric: president trump's legal team hit with two big setbacks. its quest to reverse the outcome of the presidential election and in pennsylvania federal judge dismissed the terms campaign attempt to throw out millions of votes adding a stinging opinion about the trump effort to clarion quote, this is simply not how the constitution works. in the meantime in michigan the national state robbing and party asking for a two-week delay there to certify the results in that state. that attempt appears to be fruitless in the law does not allow that. in a moment and the fox