november 23rd. at that story continues and we ♪e >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." you've heard a lot over the past few days about the security of our electronic voting machine and this is a real issue, the matter who raises it or who tries to dismiss it out of hande is a conspiracy theory. electronic voting is not as secure as traditional hand counting, period. it never will be as secure. voters can see this because it's obvious and it makes them nervous. and why wouldn't it make them nervous you met our leaders have given us every reason not to trust technology. the people telling us to stop asking questions about voting machines are the same ones that

claim our phones weren't listening to us. if they lied. if we that. other countries understand it. they don't use electronic voting because they know it undermines confidence and democracy. a system cannot function if no one trusts the boat, and that's trueue here too as we are findi, out. going forward, we need to find out exactly what happened in this month's presidential election. we need to find out how long it takes the investigation to unfold or how much it costs. and once we get answers from that investigation, we ought to refer immediately to the traditional system of voting, the one that served our democracy for hundreds of years. what we are doing now is not working.f that's an understatement. as of a tonight, the state of new york still hasn't managed to count the votes and five house races thanks to mail-in voting. that's a disaster. let's stop pretending that it's not. but at the same time, we shouldn't let our focus ont voting machines distract us from all that happened earlier this month. the 2020 presidential election was not fair. no honest person would claim that it was fair. on many levels, the system was

rigged against one candidate and in favor of another and it was rigged in ways that were not hidden from view. the off-sitete happen. the media openly colluded with the democratic nominees. joe biden and kamala harris refused to explain what they would do if they were elected. this never happened before in any presidential election in americanor history. but the media allowed them to do it. at the same time, beginning in the spring, democrats used our public health emergency for nakedly partisan end. they punished from supporters for trying to gather but they exempted their own activists, rioters and vandals, from blm and antifa from a covid lockdowns entirely. they said this out loud. the restrictions they didn't force crushed america's small businesses, the heart of the republican party. and yet they made their own donors fantastically richer. jeff bezos alone saw his net worth jumped by more than $70 billion during the pandemic. then democrats used the

coronavirus to change our system of voting. the vastly increased number of mail-in ballots because they knew their candidates would benefit from less secure voting, and they were right. they used the courts to neutralize the republican party's single most effective get out the vote operation, which for generations had been the national rifle t associatio. not enough has been written about this but anyone on the ground saw it. thanks to legal harassment from the left, the nra played a vastly reduced role in this election and that made a huge difference in swing states and pennsylvania and others. but above all, democrats harness power of big tech to win this election. virtually all news and all information in the english-speaking world travels through a single company, google. a huge percentage of our political debates take place on facebook and twitter. if you use technology to censor the ideas that people are allowed to express online, ultimately, you control how the population votes.

and that's exactly what they d did. they rigged the election in front of all of us and nobody did anything about it. actor robert epstein saw this coming. he's one of thebe world's foremt experts on the effect of big tech on politics. epstein is not a partisan trump supporter. in fact, he's a democrat, but he believes in democracy and for years he has warned that silicon valley could steal this election. this is what he said when we spoke to him about a year ago. >> google and similar companies like facebook are completely unregulated in the united states, so they can do whatever they please and if they all work together in 2020 to support the same presidential candidate, which is very likely and probably it will be a candidate that i support, by thp way. they can shift upwards of 15 million votes with no one knowing that they've been manipulated and without leaving a paper trail for authorities to

traceth. >> tucker: dr. epstein has tracked the effect he says google has had on this month's presidential election and he joins us now to explain what is found. doctor, thanks so much for coming on. what effect do you think, have you measured, of big tech on the voting outcome this month? >> well, a couple of things that we've looked at so far. first ofs all, we had 733 field agents in three key swing states this year. arizona, north carolina, and florida, and we preserved more than 500,000 ephemeral experiences. that's a lot, that's about 30 times more data than we got in 2016. and we are finding a couple of things that are pretty clear. number one is that google search results were strongly biased in favor of liberals and democrats. this was not true on being or yahoo. the bias was being shown to

pretty much every demographic group we looked at, including conservatives. so in fact conservatives got slightly more liberal bias in their search results and liberals did. how do you account for that? and then we also found what seems to be a smoking gun. at that as we found a period of days when the vote reminder on google's home page was being sent only to liberals. not one of our conservative field agents received a vote reminder during those f days. the good news is, on that fourth day that we were monitoring, we went public with some of our findings and google backed off. they literally shut off that manipulation that night and so for four days for the election, they were showing f vote reminds to everyone finally. >> tucker: what effect -- and we are thankful that you are apparently the only person monitoring this.

it controls - -- google single-handedly controls our view of thee- world and yet no e seems to care. but what do you imagine the effect --im what have you measud the effectiveness when it elation had on the outcome of the elections? >> well, there are multiple manipulations here. we were also monitoring youtube this time and facebook and bing andt yahoo. the bottom line at the moment is that these men of galatians, the one thatth we so far quantified could easily have shifted at least 6 million votes in just one direction. that's the bare minimum at this point that i'm confident of. the maximum we haven't even begun to estimate that yet atbecause we have so much data o look at. >> tucker: so that's the margin of the election right there. so you're saying that what you feared could happen may indeed have happened, that the manipulations from one company, google, may have determined the

outcome of the presidential election. >> well, we have been told this for nearly a year by whistle-blowers from google. we've seen it in leaked documents from google, leaked videos from google. ithere's no question that they set about after the 2016 election to make sure that president trump, whom i do not support, by the way, to make sure he haspo not reelected and the massive amount of data we collected is consistent with what the whistle-blowers and leaks have been telling us for a long time now. so yes, the answer is yes. >> tucker: so why iss this not at the top of the concern ofa anybody who cares about democracy? why are we allowing this to happen do you think? >> unfortunately the answer is pretty obvious. google literally buys candidates and politicians and my colleagues, my fellow academics are often bought by google with

large grants, so the fact is if you're a democrat or your liberal, you like what google and to some extent these other tech companies are doing. you like it. it's to your advantage. the problem though is we don't know who google is going to be supporting tomorrow and in fact in different countries around w the world, they don't necessarily support liberals. in some countries they support conservatives. in china they worked with the chinese government to help serve ale and control the chinese population. >> tucker: this is the story right here. dr. epstein, i hope you get the funding you need to continue this research. i think it's hard to think of many things more important and i hope the changes are madee i immediately. >> well, we've moved into georgia so we are now monitoring the georgia runoff. we are doing our best. >> tucker: i hope that you will, thank you. so big tech clearly influenced

the outcome in this election. that should be shocking and unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy or good government and yet it was essentially celebrated by the national media, which share the goal of removing from from office. cheryl atkinson is the author of the book "slanted: how the news media taught us to love censorship and hate journalism." she joins us tonight. that title is chilling but true. thanks so much for coming on. what effect do you think that tech companies had on this election? >> well, i think it was big. looking at it in a nonforensic way, dr. epstein knows a lot more about that than i do, but just looking at the influence that they've had over the past couple of years aftere a concerted campaign that began in 2016 on the part of political and corporate interests to try to control the internet landscape, the information that we get online, because these forces new that once they had largely controlled the terms of how we talk about news stories

and news divisions and on tv and on cable news, that there was still displaced they saw people were getting unfettered access to off narrative information, so maybe they don't want you to see or know about. opinions that maybe they don't want you to have or know about, and so they set out their goals to then move into the internet in a way like we haven't seen w before in a very overt way in those weeks before the election in fact to try to control that information landscapery as well. >> tucker: i don't know how frequently we can sound this alarm. i hope something is done about it soon, but give us t an exampe of what they did in the weeks before the election, if you would. >> well, there are plenty of ways and hidden ways that every day our information is controlled for example, google actually made this announcement when coronavirus hit, that they were going to direct searches to the world health organization, which in retrospect admitted --e

the w.h.o., it had gotten certain things completely wrong, but that's where we were beingt directed because of the partnership that they developed because interests wanted us to go there and believe that. but right before the election, in ways that weren't even partly hidden, i felt like there was as sense of desperation because the tech companies began overtly censoring and taking down than just sortrve of minimizing them or minimizing their reach, in ways that couldn't be denied, so look at "the new york post" story off hunter biden and the audacity of that, but to not even care in this couple of weeks leading up toth the election that we saw exactly what they were doing, because they knew there would be no repercussions for that before the election and perhaps none, quite frankly, after the election. >> tucker: absolutely shocking. do you think that there's any -- any way to rein this in before the next election? even before the runoff in january in georgia that will determine control of the congress?

>> well, i doubt before the runoff, but if were looking for years down the road, there are a lot of strong technical minds and independent journalism minds and information people who are looking all kinds of new ways where information can be disseminated without being curated by these self-appointed parties who have their own conflicts of interest were people won't be d flat formed if they simply share factual information, or hey, if they want to share information that's not true but leave it up to you to discern what is and isn't in the research that you want to do, rather than letting these unnamed faceless people with conflicts of interest do it for you. there's a lot of people searching for ways to do that and i do think something new will be born of all of this. >> tucker: man, it can't come too soon. great to see her tonight, thank you so much. >> thanks. >> tucker: if you're a thiseter and you suspect election was stolen, was rigged, you're onto something. and it's the tech companiesd, above all that did it. keep that in mind. up next, banning [indiscernible]

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>> tucker: turns out john kerry, like barack obama, is what they call a climate denier. how do we know that? well, because like obama, john kerry recently purchased a $12 million waterfront home on the island of martha's vineyard. so obviously he's not really worried about rising sea levels. >> the passive indifference that most countries are accepting is basically a mutual suicide pact. that's what people are on right now, because we are not doing what is necessary to save the planet. >> he is not helping the forgotten american. he is hurting them. their kids will have worse asthma in the summer. >> president trump pulling out of the paris agreement, that is going to cost lives. that's not a simple political move. people are going to die because of the decision he made. >> tucker: so joe biden wants to spend a lot of the next four

years talking about climate. what's interesting is that climate is very low on every survey of voters' actual concerns. they're worried about things like paying off a a their debt. many people are drowning in debt. there worried about relatives who are dying of drug ods. there worried about the economy. so why do they keep talking to us about this? have they not learned anything in the past four years? thought more about the subject and virtually anyone, author of the famous book, own movie version is currently airing. wanted to ask him these questions. j.d. vance joins us now. thanks so much for coming on. before i ask about the movie, let me ask about the kind of central place in the elite liberal mind occupied by clima climate. they've never succeeded in convincing the population that this should be a top concern. why is that? >> well, because i, think people are fundamentally unserious.

they might not be experts on the environment a policy but i think people, most people, recognize r that if you're recognizing the average american about how much they drive their car but you're letting the two biggest polluters in the world, china and india basically do whatever they want, then you're not interested in environmental a damage, you're interested ines gaslighting. so i think when people like john kerry tried to preach about the importance of self-denial to save the climate and then go and buy a $13 mansion and say nothing to china and india, people just recognize the [indiscernible]. >> tucker: but they keep trying. i mean, every time they speak and certainly every time they get power they are coming up with -- these are people by the way who hate nature, are at war with nature, not interested in the actual environment at all, but climate is always at the top of their plans. what's in it for them? why? >> that's a precomp look at a question. i will give you one part of my answer, which is that i think it's a quasireligious phenomenon. i think what a lot of these people have is they've lost any

sense of realsw religious faith and so their sense of virtue is very often tied up in the self-denial around the climate. they don't drive their car. they don't go to certain places. they take certain actions that are perceived as virtuous.ve it's at least an organizing principle around which they can kind of organize their life. i think a lot of people who made it care about the environment in a very real way recognize that that sort of religious approach to this issue just doesn't make any sense, but i also think there's just a component of basic [indiscernible]. if youe. look at the agenda thas being pushed by people who care the most or at least claim that they care the most about the environment, it's very often making industries that are very important in the heartland like oil and t natural gas, more economically troubled. and it's making other industries like digital technology easier to sort of push and make the centerpiece of an american economic policy. so i think in a lot of ways these people

sort of sense of virtue and sort of self interest align and intersect in a way that makes the environment to issuee pretty tough to bring any rationality two. >> tucker: i think that's nicely b put. so you wrote one of the best selling books of your generation, no exaggeration in "hillbilly elegy." it was not a political o book. i read it. you didn't y see the political agenda in writing it. the reviews of the film have been tinged by politics. why do you think that is? what is that about? >> i think there are a couple of things going on. one, a lot of people don't like that i am a conservative, that i talk about these issues, that i come at these things with a right of center perspective and i'm okay with that. i'm fine with criticism, i can take it, i'm a big boy. i think it was something a little bit more pernicious that i'm starting to pick up on that doesn't really bother me and it's this idea that hollywood has made a movie about working-class white people. tucker, you know the story and a lot of folks who have read the book do. it was really a story about addiction, about resilience,ea

about family sort of overcoming obstacles, but also suffering in really important and profound ways. unfortunately, those movies i think aren't especially popular those stories aren't popular among the intelligentsia. if they don't want to hear about white working-class americans, lecture those people about being privileged. i think that's disgusting and wrong. but i'm at least glad that ron howard in the team at imagine thought enough of the book to try to make aa good story out of it and i think they did. i think folks who watch the movie on netflix tomorrow when it comes out will hopefully find something about my family that they can sympathize with and that's i think really the goal of telling the story in the first place. >> tucker: i think your analysis is exactly right. the reviews i have read object to the idea of chronicling the lives of people who they think should just shut up and go away or die, so i just commend you for telling a story in a way that millions of people saw.

i think it's really important. j.d. vance, congrats on the movie. >> thanks. >> tucker: so l.a. county is shutting down restaurants and bars area because of coronavirus. here's the funny thing: their own data show that restaurants and bars are not responsible for the spread of the virus. what is that? we will tell you. plus, the critically acclaimed governor of new york won his enemy today. candace owens, noted television credit, come here to react straight ahead. ♪ picking your health insurance coverage isn't

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>> tucker: los angeles is famous for its restaurants and restaurants and bars in that city have done their very best to accommodate coronavirus restrictions. they built patios, they've expanded outdoor seating. they've done a lot and i've spent a lot of money doing it. many are still struggling to get by. now los angeles county has ordered restaurants to stop all outdoor seating this wednesday. what's the scientific justification for this? is there one? dr. marc siegel is following the story and joins us tonight. good to see you. >> tucker, good to see you. i'm very concerned about government overreach europe, using control and most importantly in this case, the cruelty of closing restaurants. the timing right before thanksgiving. governor newsom himself is in iswarranty because of an exposue of his family. i wish them well, but a lot of people [indiscernible] he has. andis mayor garcetti of

los angeles says he wants the bubble to be as small as possible. the bubble. well, you're bubble can't afford to be small unless you can afford it, really afford it the way his family can. and i want to point out some statistics that come out of our local fox bureau tonight, which is shocking. l.a. county has said that there is 24 hot spot areas they are concerned about. but less than 3% of those are restaurants and bars. tucker, you know what's more than 7%? l.a. county buildings, government buildings are more than twice the problem. and you know what the problem is?yo its staffing. it's not up in customers, so if your customer that wants to go to a restaurant in los angeles on wednesday or thursday, youed can't do it. even with outdoor dining, as you pointed out, even as [indiscernible] 63 degrees today in los angeles. you can't afford to eat outdoors and its poor people we are talking but here because in very few cases that we've seen of covid-19 are occurring in taco bell or

mcdonald's or in burger king or in domino's pizza. that's was affected here, not some beautiful gourmet restaurant in napa valley that could send you all the food we want to eat. so on thanksgiving, restaurant owners were asked by a local reporter, what are you going to do, tucker? and many of them said we are going to close and we are not going to be able to reopen. and guess what we have here? we've got plenty of food for thanksgiving. we have turkey. we have dressing. we have stuffing for everyone that was going to be here, so my message for mayor garcetti tonight is this: mayor, please reconsider closing the bars and restaurants in los angeles whenr they are not spreading covid-19e when many people, mayor, are waiting for their turkey at one of these restaurants. instead, what are they going to do, tucker? they're going to be gathering together, much bigger crowds than they would have come a potentially spreading covid-19. there is the hypocrisy of government, tucker. >> tucker: government buildings are responsible for

more than twice the number of infections as restaurants, but they are open and restaurants are closed. if that's the take away from my perspective. dr. siegel, thank you for the math. i appreciate it. >> thank you very >> tucker: goodness from the particle -- governor andrew cuomo has excepted his well-deserved emmy award. here's the montage the academy played during his celebration. his contributions to television history. >> flatten the curve, flattentt the curve, flatten the curve. this is an n95 mask. we talk about social distancing. slow the spread, new york is been getting the short end of the stick from the federal government from day one right across the board. let's stop justoa for one momen, the partner to do my partition chip. >> tucker: the newest season of the andrew cuomo show debut today, filling the empty spotli where "the sopranos" used to be. he appears to be addition for the food networker now.is the tv star governor unveiled his creative take on the

traditional thanksgiving dinner. let us know if you think this is going to win the [indiscernible] award. >> yes, we are going to be alone physically. but we are spiritually together celebrating in a way that is even deeper. you are giving thanks and honoring your global family. it's not a normal thanksgiving. it's not the traditional thanksgiving. it's better than that. it's deeper than that. it's more spiritual than that. >> tucker: your global family. has there ever been a dumber person in public office? a global family isn't family at all, and you should know the governor cuomo is not spending thanksgiving with his global family online on zoom, he spending it with his actual family because he's in charge and he gets to do exactly what he wants. but for everyone else subject to his rules, they are having turkey with a heap of loneline

loneliness. well, the critically acclaimed governor also made it clear that its law enforcement was once ability to make certain that after nearly 400 years of tradition, you eat thanksgiving alone. >> how a law enforcement officer says i choose not to enforce thator law -- i believe that law enforcement officer violates his or her constitutional duty. i don't consider them a law enforcement officer. >> tucker: that guy ascends to a cabinet position and we are going to have to listen to him for four more years, it's just going to be absolutely unbearable, candace owens joins us tonight. great to see you. so governor cuomo says you need to spend the holiday alone with your global family, apparently like randoms on facebook, but he's spending it with his actual family. tell me how thisis works.

>> it's covid for the and not for me. you have to love these democrat governors. they have absolutely no shame. to me just say this, in america right now it just feels like everything is upside down. you've got this weak rapper cardi b wins woman of the air for rapping about her genatalia. now we have the governor who oversaw the most covid debts in his state. and he winds and emmy. he gets when i can take on any. i think were on corner we can expect aoc will likely pick up a pulitzer prize in economics for his amazing and brilliant ideas that the government should just pay us to stay at home. i mean, it feels like we are honestly playing the craze again. if you take a look at this and to be serious, it's hard to mince words here. this is absolutely despicable stuff that we are seeing from these democrat leaders in inner cities, whether it's los angeles, whether it's california or new york. it's horrible stuff that we are seeing in the american people are suffering. i mean, this guy during the midst of all this coronavirus pandemic took the time to author a book -- don't forget that.

he authored a book. a grandstanding book. and oh to himself about how great of a governor he is from the site is mention walls while the people on his streets are suffering, rioting, looting. if anything is qualified to write a how-to manual on how to ruin your state and a couple of months, and that's all i see when i look at cuomo. >> tucker: so why didn't harvey weinstein think of this and write a guide to a happy marriage or like a fourth wave feminist tractor something? so the idea is you take the thing that you're guilty of and you pretend you're the opposite of guilty of it, in fact you're the greatest guy in the world act doing the thing that you are ydemonstrable or terrible is ts going to work? >> i don't know if it's going to work and i recommend nicolas maduro down in venezuela write a book on how to feed the masses. may be robert mugabe in zimbabwe write a book on economics. i mean, this is crazy stuff that we are seeing but the american people are getting sick of it. we saw last week the new yorkers are starting to stand up and they are rioting and their

protesting these masks and lockdowns. you see this across in california taking place as well. the american people are fed up with this hypocrisy. gavin newsom dining with his family without a mask while the restaurant owners are told they have to shut down and not enjoy thanksgiving. i don't think this is going to end well for them because this hypocrisy is not working. >> tucker: know, and for any of us -- i mean, you can push people to a point where they start to respond and then your politics become radical and angry and kind of the last place we want todi go. >> that's exactly right and i will say this: i know that i willll be hosting a big thanksgiving with my family this year. i do not need a government to give me permission to do so. this is america, this is a free country and we've given his politicians far too much power this year in terms of covid-19 grade >> tucker: good for you. thank you for your clarity and good luck. i hope your address is private. good to see you tonight. so the city council of the city

of new york voted to cut the budget of the nypd, the largest and best police department in the western hemisphere, by a billion dollars, illuminating the plainclothes police unit. city residents didn't welcome this, they never wanted it. in fact, now they are clamoring for more police. like so many cities across the country, new york is experiencing a surge in crime. shootings are way up in the city. 25 people shot over the weekend -- just this weekend -- in new york. just last night six people were wounded, one killed at a single shooting in brooklyn, but if that's not grotesque enough for you, how about this? the sudden spike in subway passengers being pushed onto subway tracks -- yesterday morning at 29-year-old was shoved in broad daylight onto the tracks into busy station downtown brooklyn. last week, two others were shoved onto the tracks in separate incidences in the cities. bill de blasio, who is completely wrapped the largest united states is now responding sort of. he's promising to increase nypd presence on the subway.

a little late for the people who have been killed. well, governor cuomo is not the only one who's threatening to send armed men to o your home to stop you from celebrating thanksgiving with her family. others are too. we will happen for for you. ♪ o.

♪ >> tucker: thanksgiving has been around for nearly 400 years in this country. just in the last century it endured and continued despite two world wars and a global depression.. but now in 12 states, it's coming to an end this year. they have canceled thanksgivings in oregon, the governor kate brown is ordering her subjects to keep their thanksgiving dinners 26 people or less and those who defy her orders could go to jail. fox news senior correspond rick leventhal has the story in its entirety and we are happy to have him tonight. to see. >> good to see you. if you see something say something, that use to apply to possible terrorists among us. now in oregon it means call the cops on your neighbors ifo they have too many guests at a thanksgiving dinner. this is the state that just legalize magic mushrooms and

decriminalize the possession of heroin, cocaine, and lsd. j if so hard drugs are essentially okay but the governor says gyms, zoos, and museums are not. restaurants will also be closed to indoor and outdoor dining for the next two weeks and don't even think about having more than six people at your dinner table from no more than two families, or else. >> do you want people calling the police on their neighbors nonemergency lines or 911? >> this is no different than what happens if there's a party down the street and it's keeping everyone awake. what do neighbors do? they call law enforcement because it's too noisy. >> so that could be a "yes." >> yes.us yes. >> meanwhile pennsylvania is shutting down one of the biggest party nights of the air. this wednesday, the night before things given, the state is banning all alcohol sales from 5:00 p.m. until 8:00 the next morning, begging residents to stay home to mitigate any new cases of coronavirus. pennsylvania is not threatening penalties but oregon says

violators of the new restrictions, including the 6% dinner limit, face up to 30 days in jail, $1250 in fines or both, tucker. >> tucker: it all defies belief. rick leventhal, thank you for that report, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: so harvard university is richer than you may understand. harvard has an endowment untaxed of worth more than $40 billion. it's one of the richest tribe and institutions the world, has more money than almost every country in africa. despite having this much money, the second coronavirus it to harvard attempted to fire most of its unskilled low-paid staff. harvard is charging students full tuition too learn online, which isn't really learning at all. then, and this just happened, harvard recently attempted to get rich off it coronavirus tax break by encouraging alumni to donate to the school. he went to harvard, went to harvard law school, executive director of american compass and

like a lot of graduates he's pretty honest about his alma mater. tell uss what harvard is doing exactly here.va >> [laughs] well, i just received the usual alumni email when the subject was "smart giving thanks to the cares act" and i thought it was going to be telling me be sure to give a little extra to those in need locally this year. but it was actually tax planning advice for how i could take advantage of the cares act to make a larger gift than ever to harvard and pay less taxes in the process. and apparently this is something that they and a lot of other quite wealthy institutions are pushing pretty hard. >> tucker: so the cares act of course was written and presented to the rest of us as a way to help people suffering from the effects of the coronavirus lockdown. but harvard is trying to leverage this to get even richer. do they need the money? >> no, they definitely don't. as you mentioned, there endowment is above $40 billion. in fact, it went up more than

$2 billion just this year, so with all of the struggling that you see going on, harvard actually is better off than ever. as you mentioned they are still collecting full tuition for allt their students even though they're not offering a full education and now on top of that they are hoping to vacuum up a little bit more, even as in their own operations, frankly, they haven't made a point of i think really attending to those in their own community who are in need. >> tucker: so greed is a word that has fallen out of use unfortunately i've noticed. but i don't think as any other way to describe this other than greed. this is greed. >> well, it's always puzzling to see the focus on raising money for these institutions that have more than they know what to do with, frankly, and i think there's an argument that we want our universities to be teaching and to be investing in research.

you know, that's how we get the coronavirus vaccine. the problem of course is that that's not where most of the money at these universities are going. they've become these amusement park entitlements for kids and a huge share end up with degrees not at harvard but a lot of places that aren't worth much and then you look at what they spend their time on. i went to the alumni web page and the top stories were all about racial justice and [indiscernible] speech. he's the antiracism guy, latinx gathering and if you want to do those things with their own money, that's fine, but i'm not sure why we are giving people tax breaks to donate even more for that they've already got $40 billion to spend on it if they want. >> tucker: to teach some of the smartest kids in the country to hate the nation that made all of this possible. wondering how long this kind of poison machine can continue do

youg think? >> i don't know. it was stunning, frankly, that the first thing you heard everyone talking about when it looked like joe biden had one make the election was let's hope -- well, how much student loans can he forgive, how quickly canch he forgive $50,000 of student loans? and i was sitting there wondering, why student loans? why not auto loans. why not mortgages if we are just waiting people's debt away and the reality is a lot of folks in power have this weird idea of higher education is this kind of noble pursuit when you look at what they're actually doing their sort of just as grubby as any other and a lot of ways they're doing a particularly large a lot of damage to our nation and are also doing a tremendous amount of harm to the prospects of so many young people who would be much better off on other pathways than spending a lot of money taking on a lot of debt for degrees that don't even pay off in the long run. >> tucker: that's exactly right. but they have one of the most

powerful lobbies in washington. thank you. good to see you tonight. >> tucker: if it is one and only, where bring back the friend zone, the portion of the show where we meet an old friend from fox news. we are happy to have pete hegseth joining us tonight. we will be right back. is a ♪

>> tucker: tonight, we are resurrecting the friend zone

where we invite one of our friends on the show. pete from fox & friends weekend. author of the new book "modern warriors." happy to have him on tonight. great to see you. who are these modern warriors? >> you know, on your show everyy night, tucker, you do such a great job of exposing the misplaced priorities, the anti-american priorities of the so-called "elite," the 1%. this book is about the real 1% of america, the men and women who put on the uniform and answer freedom's call and are not afraid to do the deeds. their story deserves to be told. the things we celebrate and honor are a reflection of what we value. we honor so many vapid actors and things that don't matter. this is meant to put the spotlight squarely on the men who have done the dirty work and the heavy lifting for freedom.gh

and so oftentimes on shows we get 3 minutes to talk to someone and i will talk to a medal of honor and know it's a great story but you just scratch the surface. my show gets these guys in a room, have a couple of beers. let's have the no b.s. you hear from navy seals and bomb technicians, snipers. what's it like to be in the heat of combat? what are your fears? how do you manage pain? how do you transition the sacrifice in a comfortable place where we know all we want to do is celebrate what you have done. the book tries to channel that and we just don't hear enough of the stories. a lot of vets don't want to talk to the media and share their stories. in this book they do. this is meant to celebrate all those who have done deployment after deployment, after deployment, regardless of what the cost is. >> tucker: you must have met some very cool people in writing this book. >> unbelievable.

the most difficult part was honing in on 15 stories to tell with all of them that you could. the snipers and bomb tech, the guys who walk the ground, they don't know one day or another whether they will live or die but they do it because they love their brother and they love our country. it was a humbling experience. and you meet them all and you meet the human side of them. these are average folks from towns we grew up in. they have had extraordinary training and went and did extraordinary things in the heat of battle. it's not an easy task. the military trains them while to fight in combat. they don't necessarily come home. because i'm not a reporter out to get them, i think they were honest with me in a way that they may not always be about some of the challenges they face and why they do what they do. >> tucker: i believe that.t these are really unusual people. some great people. thank you. pete, it's terrific to see you tonight. >> tucker, you're the man.

thank you. >> thank you. ththat's it for us this evening. we'll be back tomorrow night every night 8:00 p.m. the shell that is the sworn enemy of lying and groupthink. one of our favorites. he came on the show to complain about the coronavirus. we will tell you what happened next. he is here now. trey gowdy sitting in for sean. >> tucker, thank you.he welcome to the special edition of "hannity." i'm trey gowdy in tonight for sean. with thanksgiving just days away, democrats across the country stand ready and able to tell you exactly what you can and cannot do even if they are unwilling to follow their own rules. and nothing is off-limits. pennsylvanian's secretary just announced a ban on alcohol sales beginning this wednesday at 5:00 p.m.sy the state's governor imposed an