was. >> sandra: indeed. it just blew through 29,000 in january of this year. despite every thing that's happened in 2020, look at that. all right, jon, great to be with you this morning. >> jon: see you again tomorrow. >> sandra: we'll do it again tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts now. >> let's begin here. the list is growing this hour of cracking down on tightening covid-19 restrictions. right before thanksgiving holiday, which promises to be unlike any other. health officials are warning we are at a critical stage in the battle against coronavirus. los angeles county is now on the cusp of a new lockdown, as cases are surging there. parts of new york city also set to increase restrictions. pennsylvania's governor banning alcohol sales at bars and restaurants tomorrow night. thanksgiving eve. in arizona, the first county in the state to issue a voluntary nightly curfew to try and stop the spread. and this, millions of americans

continuing to ignore cdc warnings against thanksgiving travel. the tsa is telling us it has screened more than 3 million air travelers this past weekend alone. the most since prepandemic days in march. surgeon general adams imploring americans to stay cautious. >> we need to be very cognizant of the severity of the moment. a quarter of all of our coronavirus cases this year have occurred in the last month, but there's also hope. i want you to be hopeful, because, gosh, the science really has done tremendous work this year. we are almost to a vaccine, but we just need you, the american people, to hold on just a little bit longer. it's not too late to have a safe holiday celebration. >> harris: you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, fox business aker dagen mcdowell. fox's correspondent, gillian turner. executive director of serve america pac and fox news contributor, marie harf. joining a study in the center

seat on the virtual couch, media and politics columnist for "the hill," fox news contributor joe concha is here. ladies, can you see what he's bringing? great tie! >> joe: on the front runner. [laughter] >> harris: can we just take a moment? that was it. >> joe: take a moment to put on some sunglasses. i'm told this thing is loud. >> harris: i think i'm going to need glasses that completely block out what anyone can see when it comes to the hypocrisy we are seeing these days. i think we know the urgency of the moment. americans have been there. we sacrificed for months. we get it. just tell us, right? and hopefully people can sure each other up and go forward. it gets a little dicey when you have those people who are so powerful, and big places, breaking the rules that they want us to live by. joe? >> joe: i find pennsylvania

particularly interesting, harris. what you have here is liquor stores being closed on wednesday afternoon. that's interesting, because that's usually a big night for liquor stores. for instance, obviously, thanksgiving weekend is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, social weekend of the year. this year is obviously different. the plan is let's shut things down on wednesday afternoon. look, i'm not a very smart person, but i know when it comes to stocking up on bourbon and beer i become ken jennings. have a feeling people are going to go today and tomorrow until x time and fill up on whatever they have to. in other words, it's all these measures that just don't seem to make any sense in terms of topping the spread of the virus. they all seem symbolic. if anything else. again, we saw just a couple weeks ago in major cities like philadelphia, or new york, or d.c., the celebrations of tens of thousands of people, all in close quarters to get it. yes, i always hear this excuse. "they are wearing masks." if you're passing around a

champagne bottle and drinking out of the same one and putting the mask back on, or you are in close quarters with people, not even 6 inches away, let alone 6 feet, it doesn't do much in terms of the mask. it almost becomes moot. it's all these conflicting sort of stories here. you see how people are frustrated saying, "you know what? screw it. i'm going to fly on a plane and see my family. i'm going to see my relatives because our leaders are not acting the way they are telling us to act." >> harris: sometimes when i want to see if something makes us feel heated up, i go to my friend, dagen mcdowell. she always has her thumb on just the moment. dagen? >> dagen: i am going to -- i think, or head should prevail. am i going to get angry! >> harris: what? who are you? [laughter] >> dagen: you know? it's the holidays. it's not the night to fight with folks. i love bill mcgurn's column every week in "the wall street journal." i especially love it today,

because it begins talking about the hypocrisy, and the hypocritical behavior of leaders. whether it is a cuomo or a gavin newsom, most especially. the reason the hypocritical behavior emerges is because these rules, these edicts, these orders they've handed down, they can't even abide by them, and they don't make any sense. bill writes this. "we impose one-size-fits-all mandates that are rigid and unworkable. there's no nuance to them. there is a professor of public health at the university of north carolina who wrote a book about this, saying that many of these mandates and guidelines fixate on behaviors and settings where the actual risk is very low. fleeting public and counters, surface-based transmission, beach visits. so we need to stop -- to paraphrase bill, we need to stop pretending you can eliminate all

risk, which you can't. lockdowns merely delay the virus, nothing more. stop acting like you can get rid of the virus by these unscientific decrees. but i do think it gets to politicians. i think they run for these offices in the first place because they like to lecture, hector, and shame working men and women in this country. the long-term results of them shutting these businesses down, in places like los angeles county, with his new restaurant order, they are putting restaurants out of business. there is going to be long term pain for individuals' livelihoods and for this nation, because they simply don't know what they're doing, these politicians. >> harris: well, and many of them, gillian, just use california as an example, i have friends who have businesses there. small businesses. they say they had just made outdoor options available. they spent a lot of money that they really didn't have to do

that, and now they are being told they can't do what they were told would keep everybody safe according to the restrictions. it really is confusing. and, yes, gavin newsom had a nice, beautiful dinner indoors, so on and so forth. in his apology, again, he has said "i should preach less and do more," in terms of those restrictions. his state, california. >> gillian: it's not even about preaching or not preaching, is leading by example. which, last time i checked, is on the job description of wanting to serve as a governor and a major state like california. there's no room for folks like gavin newsom to be hypocritical or even be perceived as being hypocritical. this is why it is so disheartening for californians, like your friend, harris, when they open the newspaper one morning after spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, in some instances, to accommodate outdoor dining for their

restaurant, and then they see him not only dining indoors, but dining with more people at a table that are allowed in groups, without masks. they are huddling close together. there has to be some leadership to accompany these rules. furthermore, folks who are imposing these rules on their states need to be the first ones to step up and follow them. this is the sort of tragedy of the moment that we are in. where ordinary americans are post to bear the brunt of the price of this disease. not only in terms of their health and their loved ones' health, but in terms of the actual financial cost, as well. it is something that is going to be a stain on many politicians in this country over the years to come. >> harris: you know what is really missing for me, murray? look, i know everybody kind of got there feast of all of the politicians coming on giving the news conferences. some governors are still doing it, resuming it on a daily basis. i really thirst for the science and all of this. i want to see how such and such

restriction really protects us from such and such interaction with the disease. i kind of want to understand it. we had to get clarity on masks, and the science is there now. it was kind of interesting in the beginning. it was mushy the way they were talking about masks. i won't get into details. or, i can come up and i we are at a point where the science wod really help. why are you locking down? why are you willing to send cops to the private homes of people? that is a world war ii move. what is that? show me the signs. science. >> marie: scientists are actually screaming out, wishing more americans would listen to them. one of the things that has happened over these many months is that scientists have learned a lot more about how this virus spreads. for example, we know that surfaces are actually a bigger risk. if you wash your hands after you

get your groceries, for example, a member when we all washed out groceries off when we got them? they know that it's aerosol powerless. indoors, by some accounts, you are 20 times more likely to contract the virus than if you are outdoors near someone who has the virus. doctors are actually screaming out for people to listen to th them. i think some of the governors are putting in place restrictions because there is a lack of national guidance from the top. the buck stops at the white house. we haven't had a covid task force briefing where reporters can ask questions of the doctors since i can't member when, in months. given the fact that we know from the science that most spread right now is happening in small groups in private homes, it's not at these big gatherings, that is why some governors have looked to put restrictions on small gatherings, because that is where the spread is happening. it just breaks my heart to see all those people at airports this week who are ignoring the science, ignoring the guidance.

and their families and friends very well might get sick as a result. we need -- >> dagen: you know what? that is absolutely absurd, to shame people. >> marie: it's not absurd. >> dagen: yes, it is. it's absolutely ridiculous. there've been to stories about airlines, one by harvard, and another by the department of defense. the harvard report concluded that in-flight covid transmission was below that of other activities like going to the grocery store. and the one from the apartment of defense -- >> marie: i didn't say airlines, dagen. >> dagen: let me finish. the department of defense said he would need to hypothetically sit 54 straight hours on an airplane to catch covid from another passenger. what if someone has been tested? you don't know that. what if you are going to see a relative who is not at risk? nobody talks about that. again, because it's the one-size-fits-all mandates from these idiot governors and local officials. they don't know what they're talking about. there's a big difference between

having a gathering of ten people in a 500 square-foot apartment with people with comorbidities not having the same gathering in a 5,000 square-foot house with people who are of college age. that is why these mandates don't work. it also assumes that the american people don't understand, don't know better. that people are stupid, and they need to be ordered what to do by a bunch of people who know nothing. and i'm talking about elected officials. >> marie: can i respond here, please? it's actually the cdc -- >> harris: hold on one second. >> marie: okay, i'd like to respond. >> harris: people in high positions, instead of going out to dinner with their friends and doing all that, how about coming back to that science and actually reeducating some folks? because maybe people have become desensitized to it. so many messages colliding. marie, you specifically set airports. dagen just gave you some specific examples about airplanes. right? why do you think the people are

at the airports? to get on planes. go ahead. >> marie: right. the cdc guidance actually has said, you are right, that airplanes are a relatively low risk activity. but the reasons the experts at the cdc -- not governors, not politicians -- have said you should not travel this holiday season is because of all things you are exposed to along the way that heighten your risk. it's getting -- we've seen these pictures of the phoenix airport, where people are crammed together waiting in line to board. people don't -- a negative covid test doesn't mean that you can't get it en route. god witgod forbid, between takiw beer, renting a car, going to see her parents, all those increase your risk. because the spread is almost exponential, we are almost at exponential spread, these doctors are begging people not to travel for those reasons. >> dagen: now do the joe biden

celebrations. >> marie: do you want me to respond? i'm happy to. >> harris: go ahead. we've got time for that. >> marie: doctors said that outdoor activities are much safer. we also heard doctors say don't govern big groups, and people did anyway. we know that if you are masked up and outdoors, according to some studies, you have a much less likelihood of getting sick. there is a 20 times likelier potential for you to get sick when you are inside at home, without proper ventilation. so, look, i'm not a doctor, none of us are. i'm listening to the scientists who are begging us to not travel this holiday season. >> harris: and we have them on the program all the time. we do. maybe they need to line up those people at the airports outside more? look, coming together and having these conversations is critical. i am hoping that, if the medical professionals who are in that indoor michelin three star

restaurant with governor gavin newsom, i hope they were having this kind of a conversation with the governor, too. of course he was putting his mask on and between bites. i don't know why the pictures didn't capture that. let's move. president-elect joe biden's administration starting to take shape, and some critics say it looks a lot like a third term of former president barack obama. the debate you don't want to miss. you see how it's going to be for this hour, right? did you see it? ♪ >> you are seeing a team develop that i have great confidence in. ♪ your journey requires liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. wow. that will save me lots of money. this game's boring. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.

>> gillian: president-elect joe biden set to introduce key members of his administration. his top officials in the next hour, and there are going to be some familiar faces in this

crowd. this includes former fed reserve chair janet yellen. she is expected to be biden's pick for treasury secretary. also former secretary of state john kerry, who biden has chosen to be his special climate envoy. a newly created cabinet post. fox news fox news' lawyer ingram says she thinks it is all starting to look a little too familiar for her locking stomach liking peerless end. >> biden's entire administration is basically going to look like a rerun of the series canceled four years ago. this time, without its popular leading man, the joe obama >> gillian: dealing with internal strife of which campaign officials in the initiation. one senior staffer tells politico that "the obama staffers are now cutting out the people who got biden elected. none of these people found the courage to help when he was running, now they are elevating their friends over the biden people. it is messed up." marie, i want to come to for us, because he worked in the obama administration and the senior

role, worked directly for john kerry. tell us why this is wrong. tell us how this is not a biden 2.0 administration that is being set up right now. >> marie: [laughs] yeah, the classic washington parlor game of guessing who is going to get appointments and talking on background when you are not happy. in terms of the national security team, they've been getting compliments from across the political spectrum. people like tony blinken, who will be the secretary of state. republicans and democrats have worked for him for a very long time. linda thomas-greenfield, who's going to the u.n. is our ambassador. these are career folks have spent a life immersed in details of policy. of course, so significant creating the first cabinet-level positions dedicated to fighting climate change. i'm so happy to see my former boss, john kerry, get back in the game here. i think it is important that biden is starting today with the national security and homeland

security team. i think that sends a message that our security and safety is at the top of his agenda, and we'll all watch and a little of our half hour how that announcement goes. a lot of compliments coming in for this team so far. >> gillian: that's great, and that's important, like you say, and important to emphasize national security, but why new positions, new policy focuses, but not really any new faces? that is the key question here. i'll give you a chance. >> marie: well, look at, i think that there are some folks who still have work left they want to do. someone like jake sullivan, national security advisor, is not a new face but he is pretty young for a national security advisor. i think with the biden team is highlighting in choosing people that are new faces is experience. his expertise. people who, on day one, we'll already know the world leaders and the issues and won't have a learning curve, after four years of really big learning curves. i think that's why the biden

team is going with trusted fol folks. >> gillian: joe, is also true that people on the national security site are not politicians, they are career policymakers. shouldn't that sort of reassure conservatives, trump supporter's, in a sense? the idea that none of these people are far left, none of them are radical. it's kind of predictable what the priorities are going to -- we don't even need to be told with the policy priorities are going to be with this team. we kind of already know, right? >> joe: you are. there is experience, but you could also make the argument that one person's experiences in other one's "this is the status quo over the eight years of barack obama." the problem with sequels, they are never better than the original. this appears to be an obama siegel. i guess the only sequels that were better were "empire strikes back," "god father 2," and "legally blonde 2." >> harris: exactly!

[laughter] >> gillian: "legally blonde" the first was much better than the second. >> harris: no! >> gillian: i guess we have to agree to disagree on that. sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you. >> joe: not a problem at all. when you make a "legally blonde" joke, it deserves some feedback. [laughs] over the eight years, you had russia and crimea without firing a shot. russian interference in the 2016 election without obama or biden doing anything about that. you had north korea threatening the world on almost a regular basis, doing missile tests, that appears to have gone away. the isis caliphate ran roughshod over syria and parts of iraq. remember, they were called the jv team by that foreign policy apparatus. they became the varsity in a big hurry, and the president has excess into string that caliphate. he also had people at the top of intelligence agencies such as john brennan, cia, james comey, fbi, andrew mccabe, fbi, or james clapper, dni, and they

all, after donald trump took office, became pundits on tv every day showing that they weren't very apolitical, where they? they had an overwhelming bias against the president. if that's what you want, we are looking at the record of the obama administration the terms of the iran deal, as well, specifically talking about john kerry, that's what you're going to get. if you think that's a good thing, that's probably the way you voted, for the blue team, or for the red team. with the foreign policy record overall was very average support at best, and many people's eyes. >> gillian: harris, what do you make of the biden transition team's claim that he is going to have a cabinet and a white house senior staff it looks like america? that it's going to be the most diverse in history? look what he's done, he's going to make a latino head of dhs, he's going to have a woman headed up the dni office. do you give points for that? >> harris: well, i always give people points for wanting to bring diversity. i do challenge people to understand that diversity is

also, you know, point of view. it's the way people think, it is also lgbtq. it's a whole host of things. it's background experience, all of that. picking people based on race and color, i know, because i have worked in industry my entire career of 25 plus years where there was a challenge to make the screen look more like the audience. it took a while to figure out that, just because you pick a person to look like other people, we are individuals. i would say this, since you brought up john kerry, joe. he wrote, you could easily replace the words "covid-19" with "climate change." one with catastrophic consequences, the other with even greater risk if we don't reverse course. he is wondering in his opinion piece that he penned back in april if you can do for covid what you did for climate change. i think that is worth some

questions. >> gillian: everything is, indeed. go ahead, joe. >> joe: this is a symbolic appointment. the bottom line is that all the trillions we spend here in the u.s. to fight climate change, unless you get the three biggest polluters in the world on board -- china, india, russia -- to greatly reduce their emissions, whatever we do over there ain't gonna make too much difference if things don't change on that side of the world. as john kerry, the man, to make this particular nation suddenly change the way they do business? i believe that they are. >> gillian: we've got to leave it there. dagen, will give you more time on the other end. meanwhile, coming up next, republicans are hitting georgia ahead of a 2-senate runoff there in january. one g.o.p. senator says voters have to turn out to stop a "trifecta from hell." up next, how those high stakes are going to play out in the peach state. ♪

>> harris: we have just been told that president trump will appear at the white house briefing room at any moment now, so we are coming out of commercial to get ready for this breaking news that is about to happen. hearing from president trump from inside the white house. while we get ready to hear, there are a number of topics we might hear from them on. joe concha, i com come to you. just what we've learned in the last 24 hours, less than that, about the transition team of president-elect joe biden being allowed to go forth through the gsa, the president treating last night that emily murphy, at the gsa, had done a good job. she was taking threats, he was concerned for her. but also thinking that it was the right thing to do for the country. he tweeted this, to move ahead and let that transition begin. no? >> joe: sure. that can mean to go thanks.

that he has an eye on georgia, as we all do, in terms of those senate races, the runoff happening on january 5. he understands some focus has to go on down there or else you have it link check for joe biden in terms of a democratic house, senate, and a democrat in the white house. also, and i possibly on 20204, as well. remember, that campaign will start probably almost immediately. i can see very easily president trump possibly conceding in the next couple weeks. if his legal challenges don't work out, while announcing simultaneously he is running for president in 2024. that campaign will begin immediately. perhaps from the president's perspective, some forward thinking here in terms of his future and the future of the republican party, especially when it comes to the senate and georgia. >> dagen: i know what he's going to say, first thing. i can guess. dow, 30,000. that's what he's going to say. the record for the industrial average this year, and one of the big reasons

operation warp speed. vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. >> harris: i'm going to have to cut in. the president of the united states inside the white house briefing room. let's watch. >> president trump: the dow jones industrial average -- i'm very thrilled with what has happened on the vaccine front. that has been absolutely incredible. nothing like that has ever happened, medically. i think people are acknowledging that, and it's having a big effect. as the stock market has just broken 30,000, never been broken, that number. that is a sacred number, 30,000. nobody thought they'd ever see it. it's the ninth time since the beginning of 2020, and it is the 48th time that have broken records during the trump administration. i just want to congratulate all the people within the administration that worked so hard. most importantly, i want to

congratulate the people of our country, because there are no people like you. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. reporter mike mr. president -- [inaudible] >> harris: with that, president trump is exiting. you are the reporters in the room, the white house press corps shouting questions at hand. he wasn't taking any. no sooner than you were saying it, the president came out and acknowledged what is happening on wall street today. i want to come to you just with a very specific look at where we are with the dow jones, what this really means for the markets in general, and for our economy. >> dagen: this is only a gauge, it's an average of only 30 stocks, but it does represent kind of the most prominent companies in this country. i will point this out, as of yesterday the nasdaq, the tech-heavy nasdaq, that gauge was up 32% year to date.

given what this nation has been through, and it is not to set aside the tragedy of the disease, of covid, and all of the businesses that have shut down, the jobs that are lost. the dow hadn't really done that well. it was up about 3.5% through yesterday. but the big picture is vaccines created by private industry. operation warp speed, this is an incredible partnership between government and private companies. it is a real triumph for this nation in particular, that, in record time, we are beginning to see the other side, or the end, of this health crisis. i think that it was worth acknowledging today, and certainly president trump wanted to do that. >> harris: president trump inside the white house press briefing room. we brought you that life. our broadcast stations joined us for a moment, so i'm going to ask that you please stay tuned

to fox news channel and this broadcast station for continuing coverage of this story. i'm harris faulkner in new york. and now we can continue here on fox news channel. you know, marie, when you look at this, you cannot deny the impact of a very positive movement. i don't call it a story, i caught a movement of decisions, operation warp speed. i wonder why more democrats are not -- you have on this program, but more in leadership -- are not giving it the credit that it deserves. for one thing, president-elect joe biden would have to inherit that. they are not going to dismantle that, we would pray and hope, because it's working. it's one of the few things that we can point to in this horrible year of disease and death and suffering that has completely gone in the right direction. what do you say about that? is this something that biden and others need to say, "yeah, we acknowledge this, it's fantastic, we'll keep it in

place?" people are concerned. what's going to happen next? >> marie: the biden team only today, because they are officially allowed to start their transition, will get all of the details about operation warp speed. clearly, we -- >> harris: we can see that coming, i've interviewed ceos from the company's and the scientists who do the investigations. >> marie: and democrats have been talking about that positively for weeks. i think everyone is very grateful for all the work that is being done on this vaccine. i would also say that there are analysts looking at the stock market. again, this is the first full day that the biden team will be able to start transitioning. we have pennsylvania certifying results, georgia, and people believe that the stock market is also reacting to the fact that joe biden will be president. why is donald trump not taking questions? he's the one hiding in the basement now. he hasn't taken reporter questions since the week of the

election. >> harris: is the one who has contacted joe biden's office on a daily basis for the last couple of years, take several seats on that. dig in, i'm coming back to you. >> dagen: i just want to say i will give joe biden this, that some of the celebration in the market is janet yellen being the treasury secretary. she ran the federal reserve, was the first woman to do that. she'll be the first female treasury secretary. it is going to be, because there has been so much business and job destruction during these shut down this year, that you have to have a coordination. kind of an unprecedented coordination between the federal reserve and monetary policy. and the fiscal policy that will be coming out of the treasury department. quite frankly, a little bit of this is cheering that elizabeth warren didn't get that job. [laughter] i don't know how that feels, but it is the fact that it is elizabeth warren not in that job, and janet yellen getting it, that is giving up these

markets a little bit of a lift. as well as the vaccine. spew an interesting perspective on someone incoming potentially being able to galvanize, and almost what you are saying is like a liaison between what business is and what business does. that makes money. gillian? >> gillian: i want to draw our collective attention back to what we saw mom to go, which was president trump giving probably the shortest, most concise briefing -- i'm going to go out on a limb and say definitely the shortest, most concise press conference of his entire tenure at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. part of me always wishes as a reporter, as marie pointed out, that he would take questions every time he's in there. another part of me wonders why he hasn't been delivering this kind of a message over and over and over and over again over the last year, especially, since the nation has been besieged by the coronavirus and all the economic

consequences. why he has not decided to do this kind of discipline messaging every single day? these press conferences where he was taking off on tangents about all kinds of things. why he didn't stick to this messaging. number one, the vaccine race, and the success of the economy, holding it together. it's a little baffling. >> harris: joe, grew quickly before we move on, this is one of the areas where look to the press corps and i wonder, when the president comes out to talk on the economy, why there aren't -- and maybe there would have been today, we don't know -- but we have seen things going off in different directions, whether it's been from the press corps where the president. your last thoughts? >> joe: there would have been no questions on the vaccine, they would have been no questions on the dow, or anything that relates to actual policy. all of the questions that would have been asked would be about, obviously, his legal challenges, and when he's going to concede, and "you're destroying

democracy." this is the same president during his first press conference after he won election that got a total of 13 times, "russia or vladimir putin" was brought up in his first conference. "you had to have had help." i think he realizes where the press conference would have gone, and decided to make those two statements. one thing has a big knowledge, by the way. as a media analyst, dagen said before the president of the podium at the present would talk about two things paid the vaccine -- in this order, by the way -- and dow, 30,000. that's exactly what he did. dagen, who do you like in dallas on thanksgiving? >> harris: you better say dallas, my dad is listening! [laughs] >> dagen: i'm terrible at sports betting, but i have listened to the president for more than four years, and i know what matters. not knowing, but listening to them. it is certainly the market and business and prosperity. >> joe: all right, the cowboys then. thank you.

[laughter] >> dagen: i hate the cowboys! >> harris: oh, my gosh. oh, no! dad, pick up your popcorn. i know you just dropped it on the floor. top republicans hitting georgia. georgia is about to be really crowded from outside money, politicians, when g.o.p. senators say voters have to turn out to stop a "trifecta from hell." up next, how high the stakes are in georgia. ♪ [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] ♪ uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

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>> harris: republicans putting all their chips on georgia. iowa senator joni ernst, the latest high-profile republican stumping for senators kelly loeffler and david perdue, head of two january runoff races. they will determine the balance of power in the u.s. senate. if democrats win the senate majority, president-elect biden, house speaker nancy pelosi, and senate minority leader chuck schumer will have a much

easier time passing legislation. senator lindsey graham says republicans have to make sure that doesn't happen. >> that's the trifecta from hell for big government. it's a nightmare in conservatism. it's the end of checks and balances. it would fundamentally change the country as we know it. the fate of the republic really lies in the hands of our friends in georgia. >> harris: wow. the trifecta from hell is the warning from senator graham. gillian? >> gillian: we have to start here, that the entire landscape in georgia in terms of the politics is about to change, because of president trump's tweet last night where he announced he was going to allow the biden transition to move forward. this is the first time that he has really acknowledged even the possibility of a biden presidency beginning next year. in a sense, this really frees up kelly loeffler and david perdue

to go full steam ahead. up until now, they've been trying to skirt this awkward line where they are trying to make the case to their constituents that they must be elected because they are going to be the only firewall between them and washington. at the same time, they haven't ever been able to talk about the possibility that joe biden might be sitting in the chair at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. now they can really go full steam ahead with making this argument to their base, saying, "look, we're going to protect you from the far left policies we anticipate joe biden is going to usher in." i think this gives them a lot more latitude and is helpful to them. >> harris: dagen, you heard joe biden on the campaign trail saying that it is his party. is it? >> dagen: yeah, it's his party, but is he in control of it is my question. you know, i think that what will help the republicans is the more democrats that go down to georgia, send a bunch of

celebrities in from hollywood to tell people in georgia what is best for them, that is going to be just perfect for the republicans. i can't wait to see how much money they set fire to, as they did with amy mcgrath and jamie harrison's races. what was that, $200 billion that went up in flames? >> harris: that was a lot of cash. >> dagen: money doesn't buy you wins, not if it's in the hands of some democrats. >> harris: murray? >> marie: well, joe biden won georgia earlier this month. so democrats feel like there is a strategy and a play for democrats to win statewide again. i think one of the biggest unknowns here heading into this runoff is what donald trump himself will do. mike pence has been on the campaign trail, but nobody commands republican voters' attention like donald trump. he hasn't shown a willingness to

get down there, get to georgia, do these rallies. he hasn't shown a willingness to really weigh in here yet. he's been too focused on his own conspiracy theories about his lost election. for me, that's a big unknown. what president trump will do, and whether republican voters will turn out when he himself is not on the ballot. that's the question. >> harris: so, is that really what you want to see? large president trump rallies? i mean, that's kind of interesting, marie, that you would point that out. with that make life a lot tougher for democrats in georgia? joe, last word? >> joe: last word, the trifecta from hell is abc. abolish, broaden, cancel. abolish i.c.e., filibuster, the electoral college. the supreme court, the senate, with d.c., which was like the size of my permit in hoboken back in the '90s, some have become. they get puerto rico, voting i.d. and signatures, who needs that? it would be broaden, as well.

finally, canceling. fracking, full funding of the police, deregulation. that's what you would get if republicans can't win one of those two races in georgia. otherwise you have a 50/50 split and kamala harris becomes historic because she becomes a tie-breaking vote and that sort of situation. >> harris: wow. the media, obsessing over antony blinken's guitar skills after biden announced him as secretary of state nominee. gillian? >> gillian: i mean, it's no surprise to anybody on either side of the aisle that the media goes a lot softer on democrats. writ large, i remember when former president obama was elected in 2008 there was a whole series of articles in various publications from rolling stone to vanity fair to "the new york times" that presented his incoming cabinet and white house top official

picks, these sort of celebrities you never heard of before. heroes who want to hear about what they do, that you're going to fall in love with them. it's what you're seeing again here, to pick on him in particular doesn't make sense to me from a political optics perspective. i'm not saying you're picking on him, but a lot of the media critics have been saying is ridiculous that he plays a guitar. why are we talking about that? i think it's all in effort to humanize these people. again, a lot of conservatives, republicans, trump supporter's, actually are not feeling terribly threatened by these biden picks, because they are fairly middle-of-the-road in terms of their policy positions. it could be a lot worse for opponents of joe biden. >> harris: we are going to take down some hot topics right now. i'll go to you on this, and then i want to get a governor cuomo.

go ahead. >> joe: let me do a compare and contrast. i will debut my elitist voice. this is from the financial times, describing tony blinken. "a soccer playing 58-year-old who has uploaded two of his songs on spotify, and sometimes has a guitar in the background during video calls. he is widely like for his unassuming manner and inclusive approach. in his high school yearbook, the page with his photograph is inscribed with a pink floyd lyric, "just another brick in the mall." you get the idea. let me go back to 2016 and president trump's pick for secretary of state. "president-elect donald trump has selected x on what rex tillerson to leave the state department, dismissing concerns about the businessman's close ties with russia. two people close to trim strangers and said monday night." he said the theme. when we are talking about pink floyd, spotify, and a fender, the other we are talking about rex tillerson being part of the whole russian collusion thing. it's quite hilarious, and on some levels it wasn't meant to be funny. >> harris: i wonder if anybody

in the incoming administration potentially can play an instrument. anyway, all right, dagen, marie, you are next. new york governor andrew cuomo excepting an international emmy for what the tv academy's calling his "masterful public briefings on covid-19." let's watch. >> i wish i could say that my daily covid presentations were well-choreographed, scripted, rehearsed, or reflected any of the talents that you advance. they didn't. they offered only one thing, authentic truth and stability. but sometimes that is enough. >> harris: here is an a-list group of celebrities also showering democrat cuomo with high praise. >> congratulations, andrew, a new or much-deserved founders award. >> governor andrew cuomo, you are the man. >> i was trying to think of something that i could say to you that would be funny, so i called your brother, chris, who cannot understand why you were

getting an enemy since he is the one on television. >> harris: ben stiller's hair looks fabulous. marie? >> marie: yeah, i mean i guess i don't really have a lot of time for awards right now about covid, given we are still in the middle of it. i'm not sure it's time to pat ourselves on the back. i will say that, despite some of his problems in other areas, the televised briefings he did, i've heard from people who live in new york and got information from them. especially when the doctors were there, they were quite hopeful to people. when new york was the epicenter of this, getting information out to people every day was actually quite helpful. i could leave the award, i guess i would say. >> harris: dagen? >> dagen: those people are the equivalent of a cocktail of buttermilk and yeage jagermeist. cuomo was giving those briefings when he was essentially killing new york's elderly, thousands of them, by sending them back into

nursing homes, positive with covid and preventing the nursing homes from testing them. he blamed everyone, from mother nature to fox news, for those deaths. he owns them. we still don't know how many people he killed. we haven't gotten to the bottom of it, but he turned around and wrote a book about it, and now he's getting an award, and he also threatened to hold up the vaccine for new yorkers because he wants his people to look at the safety and approve of the distribution plan. he is planning on killing more people, potentially. how many deaths does it take to satiate a sociopath? >> harris: wow. questions about whether or not there were some same team members behind the scenes who were helping him make decisions about nursing homes, that would be helping him make decisions about who should be looking at the vaccine. it can be an interesting question. mary , so read about this. too soon for anybody to be laying down awards on covid-19.

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>> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. president trump just spoke a few moments ago on a major milestone. the dow has crossed the 30,000 mark for the first time ever. look at your screen. "outnumbered overtime" now, i'm harris faulkner. the president made these remarks just a few moments ago. watch. >> the stock market has just broken 30,000. never been broken, that number. that is a sacred number, 30,000. nobody thought they'd ever see it. it's the ninth time since the beginning of 2020, and the 48th time that we have broken records during the trump administration. i just want to congratulate all the people within the administration that worked so