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online and that could shift how we shop in the future. back to you guys. >> kennedy: kristina partsinevelos, thank you very much. it was a pleasure working with you jon scott, i missed you. >> youtube, julie banderas. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert, president trump weighing in on the fight against covid as cases keep searching across the country. we await data from thanksgiving but the u.s. reported more than 181,000 new infections on wednesday, the third day in a row that infections arose. the nation cases neared 13 million. president trump still insisting we are rounding the corner as he talks up progress on a coronavirus vaccine sing the first shots will be delivered as early as next week for frontline medical workers and seniors. the president also telling reporters joe biden deserves no credit for the vaccine rollout.
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>> president trump: don't let him take credit for the vaccines. the vaccines were me and i've pushed people harder than they've ever been pushed before. >> kristin fisher is live at the white house for us today. >> hey, molly. the president sounded very optimistic about the timeline for this vaccine. last night during his first q&a with reporters since the election. speak to the vaccines will be delivered literally, it starts next week and the week after and it will hit the front line workers and seniors and doctors and nurses, lots of people. and we are going very quickly. two companies already announced a third one coming up and a fourth and fifth one coming al also. >> the date to watch is decembee advisory committee will be granting a meaningful use authorization for the first vaccine. if they do, the chief scientific
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advisor to operation warp speed says that they will be able to ship those first vaccines to immunization sites within 24 hours of that approval so that means december 11th or 12th would be the day that the people would actually get that shot which is just two weeks away. it's been an incredibly expedited timeline thanks in large part to operation warp speed which is the trump push to get that vaccine in record time. during that q&a with reported last night, president trump says he's the one that should receive the credit. >> president trump: don't let him take credit for the vaccines because the vaccines were me and i pushed people harder than they've ever been pushed before. >> president trump clearly quite proud of his early push to get this vaccine approved and distributed in record time. the way it's going to work, first it will go to nursing home residents and then likely some combination of health care workers and at risk individuals
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before finally being open and available to the public, or whoever wants one. molly? >> molly: all eyes on december e some pretty good days. kristin fisher at the white house, thank you so much. you are watching "outnumbered," i'm molly lyon and here today, a host "kennedy," kennedy. rachel campos duffy. 24/7/reporter carley shimkus and joining us today fox & friends cohost steve doocy who is also the author of the "happy in a hurry" cookbook. >> good product placement. welcome to all of you, hopefully we are also squeezing into our close i'm getting ready for the next holiday that's right around the corner which -- we will fill up using steve's cookbook of course, we will talk about that later. but to kick things off we have the president saying, you know,
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the vaccines were me. he doesn't want to give any credit to the incoming president-elect the joe biden. he's tooting his own horn here and we are right on the cusp of these vaccines being delivered to health care workers across america and also those critical seniors that need it so badly and are at such high risk. your thoughts on the president and the way he presented this? a >> steve: you know molly, i think the president will get credit once it comes out. i think with the president does get credit for her, in the very early days before we even heard about operation warp speed and different pharmaceutical companies where we were working on the vaccine come up behind the scenes, the president and jared kushner my calling and private industry with his public private consortium of experts in the health care world and they were trying to figure out not about vaccines in the beginning, they were trying to figure out, what do we do about ventilators
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and how do we come up with ventilators and what are we going to do with masts? what are we going to do with ppe and all that stuff? so i a given credit for doing that. then we heard about operation warp speed. but at the same time we had pharmaceutical companies, some stories now coming out about the people that were actually behind the vaccines and it's like they were not listening to the federal government, they were simply watching what was coming into them from china. we were talking about this mysterious virus that they didn't know a lot about and that is what got the whole ball rolling and that ultimately is why we've got a number of vaccines that are on the verge of being approved. as soon as that happens, that's great. we will give people credit then but until then, let's say thanks to the pharmaceutical companies. let's say thanks to the administration for getting us ventilators and things like that and let's say thanks to the people who actually wear the mask and do the right thing. >> molly: certainly a lot of
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gratitude for those brilliant scientists that were the minds behind making all this happen. rachel, i want to bring you in because the president can sometimes be criticized for not showing, you know humility and modesty but at the same time he gets a lot of criticism from the press. so he does kind of doubt and say, i deserve credit for things. most recently we saw the middle middle east peace dealings come through, so it's no surprise saying i hearing him say i want the credit here. >> rachel: i love steve but i disagree with him a little bit because you cannot brilliant scientists and great pharmaceutical companies that want to get the vaccine out, but if you have government and onerous regulations which we know, to get these vaccines out, can take four or five years sometimes. operation warp speed absolutely lowered the regulatory process to a point where we have a vaccine that is ready to come out and i understand president trump's frustration
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because he certainly can't count on the media or big tech to get him credit for what he deserves. this is a president who has taken the fact that he delivers on his promises very seriously. if you talk to people who support president trump, that's one of the things they love about him, he delivers on his promises and he promised the american people they would get this vaccine before the end of the year and he's going to deliver on it. you can imagine how frustrated he is at the fact that big pharma was a very mad at him because he passed some regulations that prevented them from milking american citizens for pharmaceuticals that they were selling round the world for much cheaper. they were angry at him and they wanted joe biden because he's a big pharma candidate. when they delivered that vaccine a week before -- a week after the election, robbing the president of his -- i think of his ability to take credit and rightfully so, he's mad. he doesn't trust him and he sang it out loud.
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he's going to use everything he has on his platform to get that message out. >> molly: carli and kennedy, both of you do such a great job on keeping an eye on how the media reports things, but starting with you, rachel brought up interesting points. what do you think about the media and how they've covered this story, and giving credit where credit is due. doesn't matter so much or are we looking forward now to distribution of this and how quickly it can be gotten out of the public? >> carley: the president gets criticism a lot freezing the self-congratulatory tone but he realizes if he doesn't say it no one else is going to. it's up to him to make sure that some americans recognize that operation warp speed did expedite this process and i also think that when he says don't let joe biden take credit for the vaccine he also means don't let joe biden take credit for
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the economic recovery that comes as a result of the vaccine. it's going to be a really big bummer for him to not be able to sit at the white house and see all the hard work through operation warp speed payoff. i also want to point out, there is this huge conversation going on whether they it's the right or the wrong thing to do and it's become extremely political. why and los angeles of the science doesn't back it up are they locking down restaurants? it's .19% or even less than th that. could it be that president trump has promoted keeping schools open and keeping businesses op open? it will be interesting to see if those lockdowns continue whether our most vulnerable population eventually gets the vaccine and that's coming really, really soon.
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that's what is coming up in the news cycle as the front line workers get vaccinated. >> molly: let's talk about it now because kennedy is here, she is always an excellent point person. she raised some great points not just about people getting back into a normal fashion if their children b are able to get into classrooms, your thought and your take on this, a new administration is on the cusp of taking over in january and hopefully reduce the an economic bounce back. >> last hour we saw a great report from christina about the economy and consumer confidence and people may not be able to buy in person today, people were not up at three in the morning that they typically have been as thanksgiving stretches into black friday, but if there is a
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feeling that people are being inoculated, that itself boost consumer confidence because people know that there vaccine is right around the corner and businesses will start to open and rehire again. i think that the optimism and consumer confidence and the market really lead the way for the rest of the economy opening. i'm not as interested in credit as much as stewardship and i hope that president-elect biden, i don't think this is going to happen, but kind of gets out of the way and allows the economy to flourish and blossom. because it's waiting to happen, people are waiting for their lives to reemerge from this lockdown and the vaccine is the first step. even though you are not getting it yet, you know you are going to so go ahead and buy those lululemon's, girl.
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[laughter] >> get back in the restaurant, i'm ready to stretch them out. [laughs] up next, the supreme court slapping down covid restrictions on houses of worship and whether this marks a decisive turn to the right for the high court. >> people have a right in this country to worship god and that should not be restricted by arbitrary limitations that the governor said. music and physicamusical medica wow!
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>> molly: the archbishop of new york cardinal timothy dolan praising the supreme court decision to block new york's covid restrictions on religious gatherings. the archbishop tweeting, while we have been and will continue to adhere to all safety
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protocols to protect our communities it is also important to protect that fundamental constitutional right, religious liberty. late wednesday the supreme court ruled 5- four against andrew cuomo's limits on how many people can attend religious services in areas hard-hit by the virus. the governor blaming the courts all new conservative majority for the decision while downplaying its impact. watch. >> i think that supreme court ruling on the religious gatherings is more illustrative of the supreme court than anything else. it's irrelevant from any practical impact because the zone that they were talking about has already been moved. it expired last week. so i think this is just an opportunity for the court to express its philosophy.
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>> molly: chief justice john roberts sided with the high court liberal minority and ruling. first in which justice amy coney barrett played a decisive role. she joined the court last month replacing the late justice ruth bader ginsburg. steve, i will start with you. >> steve: oh, good. >> molly: [laughs] yes of course, you are the one lucky guy, so lucky. what would you say about the makeup of the court, is it more about the shift that andrew cuomo was pointing to or is it about potential lockdowns in the future and houses of worship, and how they are able to open their doors. >> steve: i think it says more about the governor and his bad decision than it does about the court, kennedy. his point is moot. they've got part of a right, and i've got part of a right. ultimately what he said was not
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moot because the churches and synagogues that were in the red zone when they filed against the state of grenada. the larger point is the supreme court said governor, you can't do what you were doing where you are trying to put a cap on the number of people who can be in the church or synagogue or mosque. andrew cuomo has had an awful week. first of all, yet the supreme court saying no, governor you've exceeded your authority. and secondly, his mom's steamed at him because he said to everybody at a press conference, he said essentially, i told you you have to stay home and you can't see people but i've got to bring my mom is 89 years old and my two daughters up and albany, we will have a great time together. it hit the fan, and we all know how painful that can be. so anyway he's had a terrible week. i think the supreme court ultimately got it right.
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he made it seem a little less divided. >> kennedy: rachel, why do you think john roberts went with the minority. we don't really know. but the point is there are millions of faithful christian american sitting around their thanksgiving table yesterday and being thankful for donald trump. he got amy coney barrett on that court. he did it and so did the senate against a lot of liberal and media oppositions and it is because of her decisive vote that we have our churches open. again, what we are seeing with governor cuomo is something -- it's really a cultural, cultural
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divide. they believe that for christians, that our faith, our ability to go and worship god as we choose to is, you know, not essential. the truth is, for us it's essential to who we are. it's the reason we exist, the reason we have families. by the way, it is in the bill of rights. you have the right to practice freely and i'm glad that the supreme court weighed in on this >> they are trying to stop it and that was part of neil gorsuch's decision, carley. he said you can go to a bike shop or wine store but you are vastly limited based on the zoning and the edict from the governor as to how you can worship. now don't you think some of those front-line workers could
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use a prayer or two? my goodness. they have at this nonstop, some of them longer. >> that's right, light a candle for some of those front-line workers. it has been more difficult and complicated by the coronavirus pandemic but there was a priest on fox & friends that really drove the point home about the heavy hand of governor cuomo's rules by saying that saint patrick's cathedral was capped at ten people. that's a church that holds 3,000 so how does that make sense? governor cuomo was trying to say that this ruling was really a way for the supreme court to show the conservative bend, when really it was the supreme court following the constitution and recognizing everyone's individual right to freedom of religion. >> and if you are getting your church on, you are going to be smart. you are going to social distance
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and wear a mask. >> and that's what cardinal dolan said. >> in the meantime, a new book by an author popular among some conservatives reportedly driving staffers at one book publisher to tears. that author, canadian psychologist jordan peterson has called white privilege a "marxist lie" and has criticized gender discrimination with the it is" an icon of hate speech and transfer will be on the fact that he's an icon of white supremacy regardless of the content of this book. i'm not proud to work for a company that publishes him. the company says "we are open to hearing all of our employees feedback and we are committed to publishing a range of voices and viewpoints." this after target recently sparked accusations of censorship before reversing its decision to pull a look on the
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"transgender craze" which one twitter user called transphobic. it's hard to sell books nowadays molly. it really is. it's tough to get people in the book section of big stores let alone to pick up a paperback. this is the best thing that could happen for authors like this, this intercompany squabble is now giving jordan peterson free publicity. i was just sitting here thinking i'm on this talented panel of people who have written books so you have more experience dealing with the publisher than i do. but people can choose to read the book or not read the book, and if they don't want to read the book, they don't have to buy it or support it. now the internal company back and forth, that is something that the publisher will have to struggle with. publishers may not necessarily publish every book, that is their challenge and their right and i imagine within the
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publishing company there is a lot of back and forth about what kind of published earlier are we going to be as a company, and that's what they are experiencing and part of those rights as well, they have to deal with that with their employees. they seem to have taken their stand on this, kind of a broader defense of free speech. once you say we are drawing the line here and then another company meeting happens, do you move the line, do you move the line, how far do you want to go as a publisher in your defense of free speech and what's okay that's just my thoughts when i see the story. >> kennedy: those are great points. they are fresh out of college, and they were told that words do great harm, therefore harmful
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words must be suppressed. so what happens when you have an entire large generation of people running things, what does the future look like for publishing and free speech when these terrified people, our legion? >> you know kennedy, we seen in the last years, where everybody gets together as they can virtually or in person before the pandemic and they would say, we can't do this because of that. so clearly they are of that both sides, particularly jordan peterson's point of view should not be published by pain. but at the same time and that kind of logic continues, there will be publishers publish -- only publishes things that into
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the right, they will become more like universities that where if they lean to the left, to the exclusion of the other points of view, they don't want to hear it. publishing is not like university but at the same time they are out to make money and ultimately penguin in the part that you just read, they said we remain committed to publishing a range of voices and viewpoints and they know this guy a jordan peterson millions of books. they are in the business of making money. they say, you know what? we are a business that needs to make money so we are going to publish his book. anyone else have questions? thank you for your point of view now sit down, we are publishing this book. >> kennedy: they are absolutely reaping the benefits, that's a great point. in the meantime fallout continues. up next, why some are mincing no
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words and defending what nancy pelosi calls an abuse of power. >> you can find a lot of fault with president trump and some of the other uses of his pardon power, but this i think is a clear example and it was the right thing to do. what is that, an adjustable spanner? good choice, steve. okay, don't forget you're not assisting him. you hired him. if you have nowhere to sit, you have too many. who else reads books about submarines? my dad. yeah. oh, those are -- progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. look at that. we use 11. eleven. why do an expense report from your phone when you can do it from a machine that jams? i just emailed my wife's social security number to the entire company instead of hr,
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>> molly: at top stories we are following is the bottom of the hour, high winds forcing warnings in california. tesla under investigation by the national highway traffic safety administration over safety issues with the front suspension on about 115,000 vehicles made between 2015 and 2017. an amazon is set to get about $5 million in holiday bonuses to
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its frontline workers. $300 for full-time employees and half of that for the part-time workers. reaction pouring into president trump's part and wednesday of his former national security advisor michael flynn who admitted lying to the fbi and vice president pence over his contacts with russian officials. chief justice john marshall wants to -- an act of grace. in the case of michael flynn, donald trump's pardon was something more, a requirement of justice. they have been weighing in as well with on republicans like house minority steve scalise praising the move. he tweeted "the left and call me as fbi destroy flynn's life to try to take down president tru president trump. what happened to him should have bent never been allowed to happen in america. justice has been served, and
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it's long overdue. house speaker nancy pelosi slamming the move as a "brazen abuse of power. let's discuss. of course we will begin, are you shocked to see that people on the political aisle have reacted to this pardon so vastly differently? >> steve: molly, check yourself for a fever. do you think someone from the other side would say, hey, donald trump did something really smart? no. they are going to say that. but when she refused t refers tn abuse of power, remember when barack obama granted pardon to chelsea kleiman? there was some controversy but i don't remember nancy pelosi saying that. i googled barack obama's most controversial pardons and "the washington post" had a
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story about -- a story most people had not heard. oscar lopez rivera was convicted about 40 years ago, part of the chicago cell of the f al n which claims responsible to for 120 bombings, killed six people and injured dozens of american people. when he was arrested he found dynamite and bombs and bomb making material at his house. in fact a witness said he this guy who was arrested had trained him and how make bombs. he had the right to wage war on the united states even though he repeatedly put dozens of american citizens lives in per peril. barack obama granted him a pardon. is that an abuse of power? absently not. you know why? because the president can do whatever he wants to when it comes to the pardon power.
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b3 comic >> molly: i think that was the point you're making and what was so striking, this is such a remarkable power. a quick bite from adam schiff who kind of speaks to where the democrats are coming from on this. >> i imagine what people around the world think when we have an organized crime figure, but this is who donald trump is. it's who he was on the way into the presidency and it will be exactly who he is on his best days of the presidency. >> molly: some of the democrats, i'm not going to say every democrat but some of the democrats have looked at this as a cricket decision. but this retired general on the other side of the aisle from trump side in particular has been seen as a victim. what does that say about how we as the american people in the justice department, and there
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such a divide. >> first of all the doj recommended these charges be dropped and the judge who is a political hack judge sullivan refused to do that. i just think the last four yea years, and it must not end here. the crimes committed against general flynn and the president and the entire process must absolutely be documented. i think the last four years of president trump's presidency has been a real awakening. i think many american citizens myself included were very innocent. we knew that the cia was a little weird, but that they had the right sensibility, they were looking out the american people. i don't think anybody, at least on the republican side feels that way again. it used to be the intelligence
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agencies were weaponized against the american citizens. this is the type of stuff you see in banana republic and third world country. this is wrong, civil libertarians need to stand up and democrats need to -- if you can take down, if the deep state intelligence agency in the military industrial could take down a three-star draft general all of us are in danger. >> molly: i think trump's part's pardon essentially takes the case out of the hands of the letter incoming administration of the biden doj. that's something that is in the next administration. that might even be a gift to a certain extent, i don't know that that was something the biden administration was ready to deal with. do you think we will see those
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changes no matter who the president is, no matter who is the fbi? kennedy? >> kennedy: i still think that the fbi has a lot of work to do in terms of reforms. because the lip service and self policing hasn't been enough and it has been so easy to fall down this a very slippery slope. if democrats are okay with michael flynn being targeted and prosecuted and imprisoned then you have to do the same thing for people who lie under oath not just the fbi but to congress as well. we saw that andrew mccabe and james comey gave opposite testimony, sworn testimony before congress so one of them is lying. so if we are going to use the flynn case as a guide moving forward then one of them should
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be prosecuted and sent to prison. if that's what they want. the question is about abuse of power, then maybe the presidency is too powerful. there is a democrat president, you should not give up your legislative power to that. i think it's time to bring in that power. >> kennedy: adam schiff lie the entire time saying he had evidence and never came forward. this is a very serious matter and the media frankly was complicit. when crimes occur usually the media is there to hold everything in check. to check things out. in this case the media was absently complicit with the intelligence agency that we are working to overturn in this administration. >> molly: running out of time,
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but with republican control of the senate hanging in the balance, the president says he will head to georgia to campaign. how he could affect their crucial runoff races next.
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>> molly: all right, carley, let's talk about this. how important is that for the the president to go and unify republicans in georgia to get them out to the polls? >> carley: this is huge, nobody can energize this and the sad reality is a lot of republicans and trump supporter's don't trust the election process right now. that's all what the president's message is going to be, he's going to say repeatedly that everybody has to turn out the vote because you can't let this happen again. this is huge and it could be the thing that puts him over the edge. >> molly: is what is the best strategy for them, the race here
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has national implications but if they run too hard with the president, they could alienate some voters especially those critical never trumper voters. so if you were talking to either one of these campaigns and strategizing with them, how would that run in terms of the president? >> if you heard the president yesterday from the white house, he said they got to be disappointed because -- maybe the messaging going forward would be don't let it happen again. they stole georgia from me and he is looking to add -- saying the numbers don't add up, don't let it happen to leffler and purdue.
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>> carley: a somali who is in a better position here? in terms of what you've seen and very different races that they had on election night, who has the edge and who do you give the race to right now? >> molly: that's tough call right now because there's an enormous amount of money. that could matter a lot but there's a lot of outside money coming in at a lot of outside influence, and if he's going to talk about the candidates, that's one thing but if he's going to talk about a rigged election and criticize the secretary of state in georgia and what he believes is a fraudulent system down there than that's another. the real question is they have all the additional benefits coming in, will they be able to use that and are the georgia ohmic people of georgia going to
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be paying attention? >> you talk about this a lot, this isn't just the battle for the senate. the rest of joe biden's agenda, rachel, i have to get you on the other side, sorry. we are in a time crunch, and its various important to look forward to but socialism is bad. >> molly: if there is more life to thanksgiving and turkey sentences, steve doocy has a brand-new cookbook on how to turn those holiday leftovers into something delicious. it's a great book and he will tell us all about it next.
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>> molly: all right, our own steve doocy and his wife kathy are out with a new book, "happy in a hurry." >> steve: 100 quick and easy recipes that will have you happy in a hurry. today is the biggest left every day of the year so what are you going to do with that leftover pumpkin pie? in the holiday chapter of our "happy in a hurry" cookbook, as a public service, let me show you how to make it super easy
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really delicious leftover pumpkin pie grown up smoothie. why do i call it a grown up smoothie? glad you asked. watch this. first, let's put not one, but two scoops of vanilla ice cream into a blender. next, measure out a quarter cup of milk and put that in. now add a full slice of pumpkin pie. let's add some ice come about a cup works great. and this is what makes it a grown-up smoothie. a splash of bourbon. if you are old enough. secure that led to come and pulverize. next, pour it into a glass, toppled whipped cream and add a
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pinch of pumpkins pie spice. it is so delicious. i hope you make it. and it's so easy. today is black friday. pick up your copies today or order it online for whoever is on your list who loves to cook. and carley, you've had it, how is it? >> carley: i'm having it right now, hold on. oh, my god, what an embarrassing shot you just took of me. delicious. steve, i could love it anymore, it's amazing. >> i use a lot of steve's recipe is for my kids as after-school snack. i will not add the booze on that one, but the new tele- pie is in the old cookbook and thus more is pie in the new one are amazing. >> steve: thank you very much. it's a great cookbook, i hope everyone picks one up. >> molly: all right,
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