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welcome. it's good to be here. thank you. with all that our nation has been through in 2020 and still going through right now, it's a good time, it's a good place to honor those who have fought for our nation's freedom. on this day we turn our attention to the warriors who served in combat, left their families and friends in the comfort of home to do the dirty work of their nation. these post- 911 veterans are also featured in my brand-new fox news book modern warriors, real stories from real heroes, available on november 24. i'm looking at a chapter in each man that is seated with me right now. we'll get to that later in the program. they have all made the difficult transition back to civilian life but today, accompanied by yours truly, they will return to a previous job, the profession of arms. check out first our modern warriors.
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the first is fox news contributor, you know him johnny, joey jones. a former marine staff sgt served in iraq and afghanistan as a dod tech, survived an ied attack and lost both of his legs after eight years of service triple j now gives back to his community volunteering for multiple organizations. we also have former army ranger chad fleming. he's a war hero who was deployed five times after becoming an amputee. he's been awarded this meritorious service medal, two metals of valor and three purple hearts. and morgan luttrell and former navy seal and 14 year military veteran, deployed multiple times around the globe making out leads research into veteran ptsd and has made it his mission to assist. and finally nick irvin, the only one here with with judgment. [inaudible] he has close to three dozen confirm killed.
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he earned his reputation for being the deadliest in his field as an army ranger. we are here today in texas. where in texas are we, south of fort worth, we are with some highly decorated bets and together were uniform temporary band of brothers and test out our shooting skills right behind us. any predictions quick before we hit the range. >> oh yes, joey all day. >> i bet joy will get last-place. that's like a golf score,. >> it sounds like they're downplaying expectations. >> you guys do enough of that in the media. i'm with the sniper.
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nick, according to my paper here you might be the champ. talk to us. >> it just comes from a long history of rangers leading the way. all always give credit especially when credit is due. that was one of the most impressive shooting expositions i've seen in a long time so kudos to you. i appreciate it. >> i'm not sure being a ranger had anything to do with that. it was a little like a videogame. i play a lot of video games. i came in strong. i took my time, hidden targets, my trigger finger, the stability and my legs aren't quite there, i can't take a knee. a knee has already been taken. [laughter]
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37. [inaudible] i get a 22nd handicap for not taking a knee. i did not do well. >> you did poorly on the first one, but you recovered very nicely that's why in golf you can handicap. hold on, when it comes to moving, you smoked us. 46 seconds. everyone else was at a minute. >> i came out strong initially in the first couple rounds. >> how did the big guy move so quick. have you been shot out before. >> yes. do you just re-create that. >> let me ask about that. >> i don't have ptsd. i spent my entire career
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--dash. >> let me ask you this. does it ever put you behind the scope, maybe not. maybe you shoot so much that it's been so long but does it bring you back. >> it's one of those things i like to do, but to be honest i like playing the guitar more than shooting now. >> my kids, the only reason they know i'm in the military is because that's my job. i'm proud to be a marine but i don't ever only want to be a marine. >> some people don't understand why you'd gone the military or why did you this credit something i always wanted to do, something i enjoyed but it was a job. >> you never go over there to get in a gunfight because you hate the people in front of you. you go because the people that you love are behind you. it's nothing personal, it's a job. it just so happens that your
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job sometimes gets a little dirty. >> is this a pretty familiar scene, the hours spent on a range, repetition muscle memory that gets you to the point. >> were on tv today, were not on cleanup. >> is the first sgt going through and checking everybody's rifle or is it in individual team that's different. >> you're responsible for your own weapon. if it's dirty you have to clean it up. every piece that hits the deck will be picked up and accounted for by you, by the team. that tool is what keeps you and your buddies alive. people think it's silliness, but it's attention to detail. >> there's nothing worse than a clip when you want a bang. >> to take care of and properly maintained by the shooter, it's rarely the weapons fault. it's your fault. so when the magazine fell out.
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>> that wasn't my gun. if someone's going to hand you a weapon you better familiarize yourself with it. >> you guys are taking notes, right. >> copious notes. this should go in the next field manual here we go. hold on, go review that. >> it's true, every weapon, every time has to be the standard otherwise you don't know if the guy next to you will have the ability. for sure. we've got more on this but more on the individual stories because once a warrior, always a warrior. veterans who gave their all on the front line sharing their stories from modern warriors, real stories from real heroes when we come back, after the break. for over 30 years,
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welcome back to modern warriors and the cool thing about today's episode is that usually we go topic by topic, and this time we want to go person by person. that's what this book is about, books with the series has been about is that most americans haven't necessarily had a chance to sit around with guys that have seen what
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you've seen, grab a beer, have a conversation, get the real story. i want to first start with nick, your story and chad, yours as well which is chapter 14 and chapter four accordingly in the book. nick, you tell an interesting story, you were in combat and then you learn about this guy who's a chechen, a well-known sniper on the other side. you find yourself on the receiving end of sniper fire. how do you manage that? >> look i can only say this looking back but i was really cocky as a kid. really cocky. one of the most humbling experience i've ever had a chance to be a part of. i thought it was a really good sniper, had a really good record under my belt at that point but being on the other end of the sniper rifle and he would have us move to the left
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and the right and then four of us were in that whole and for guys on the outside and for about four hours we played volleyball with bullets. they called in air support not the time you can accept anything greater than a .01% collateral damage. we were told to fight out, we started to get over run, surrounded and there were a few hundred guys on ground and they were supposed to support us but they were pinned down in their own engagement and we had a fight ourselves out of that position. man i really hate the story. i don't hate it but it's tough to talk about.
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>> you said you were cocky, yet every time he went out you were scared every time he went out. >> oh yes. big time. >> it was after, i think if it hadn't been for him, he came in and took care of that and saved our team. five minutes after that i watched him take two rounds in this little ravine we were in, i could hear the bullet snap or pop next to my ear and i thought someone was shooting a gun next to my head and i looked over to the side and saw that bullets were impacting on the bank behind me and that's when i saw a 15, 25-foot ambush with shrapnel out of his leg. it was like old vietnam stuff, they ambushed us and fought
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from there for a little bit, watched the medic try to put two tunicates on and it was pretty tough. turned to get to the safe haven room and i'm yelling in his ear and i felt like a splash of warm water hit my face and he went down in this big gaping hole in his chest and he put his hand inside the hole to stop the bleeding and he's going in like get this guy, get this guy and i'm in shock at this moment. it's the only moment that i've ever like actually been scared in combat and it hits you in a different way. that when i think stuck with me for the longest time after i got out, but that was the most intense, humbling experience in combat that i've ever had. >> we are letting the rangers lead the way on this.
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you talk about, most guys don't deploy five times let alone five times after they've loslost part of their left leg. you talk about the sensory, the smell and sensory of returning to work after having had your leg amputated. talk about overcoming that. >> it's hard. when you left that country last, like the first time going back over after this injury, as i was coming off the aircraft i was smelling the same smells that i smelled when i was being put on the aircraft which is a medical aircraft to get out of there and basically go on to walter reed. nick mentioned the humbling experience, you're just overwhelmed with thoughts and emotions that you have a daily reminder when something goes wrong.
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a lot of times prior to that i know i would, and a lot of other people what is well, you taken for granted. you go overcoming you do your job you come home and you're okay. you get back on the aircraft come you go overcome you do your job and you got into a cycle of just doing that everything will time, but then you have something like this happen and every step you take reminds you of what that bad day was so i remember that first time coming back in. it didn't go away after the first time. every subsequent time you go over immediately. all these guys will tell you, the stench in iraq is very different than the stench in afghanistan. you can close your eyes and you can say believe i'm in kabul. or you say i believe that's muzzle. it's almost like this culinary ship, you know exactly where you are and depending on what the smell is is where your brain goes and starts associating it with okay, what happened when i was here last.
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you've got to be able to come i said earlier you have to be able to compartmentalize that and realize you have a job to do and you've got to get your buddies in your teammates depending on you. you can't dwell on it. i'm in a bang bring up navy seals for second because both of you in the chapters of your book talk about charlie sheen's movie, navy seals. wow. i don't know how many guys enlisted in the military, talk about the impact of why you joined. >> i graduated with a 1.7 gpa. wasn't the smartest guy on the planet. it was just one of those things that i kinda had to do. i barely made it through, but i think the coolness of it, explosions, all that was a big
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factor and i really believe that those guys did what they did in the movie, the little rockets on motorcycles and stuff like that, those don't exist, and sniper rifles that you never get a chance to shoot so you are saying when he wakes up on the beach with the shoe in his hand in 24 hours later he's sees rescuing someone. >> it was not like that, no. i don't know, my buddy and i called it the saving private ryan effect. you watch the movie in your motivated motivated to goad join right then. >> i'm a little bit younger than summing all, but i was in high school when 911 happened and i'm like there's no way a generation of americans is going to fight this war and i'm not can be a part of it. >> you mentioned maybe you talk about it a little bit
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your chapter, expand on that. >> i think it exists, it's one of the reasons, like we were all talking about earlier, was that burning desire to go serve. i went in prior to 911, but that's what i wanted to do. prior to charlie sheen, i watched, my dad let me watch apocalypse now so i'm thinking you fly in and helicopters and i'm just like i gotta do that man. that is so cool. then once charlie sheen jumped on the back of the jeep i was like i'm in. i do think there is something that gives you that burning desire to go serve at that level. hey, yes, send me. it's not that desire to go get
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a gun fight or go get into battle, it's the desire to take care folks that are around you, your team makes. >> make no mistake about it. there ain't nothing cool. it's not fun, it's not glamorous, it sucks. it's a miserable job. you're away from your families come you're always cold, wet tired and miserable and some is always trying to kill you. you always have an opportunity to get injured, but you want it. it's like a drug. i think of spicy veterans having a hard time when they do leave service. like morgan said going overseas and deploying and they missed that support mechanism. print thereon my right and left and that's my support mechanism and i think that's a big part of it. no one else will get you the way those people well. that's true. thank you guys.
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>> welcome back to modern warriors. it's a beautiful day here in texas with three texans and a georgian and a guy from nowhere. we called and have this for you. >> to jeff. >> yes. we did. we just heard from nick and chad who are featured in the book modern warriors and will talk to joey right now who are chapter ten and chapter three respectively. joey i'll start with you, chapter three, the mindset of a dod guy, you talk about of the lot. everyone in the military is one thing, to have the job of being the guy called to the front and dispose the bomb that people know almost nothing about but they know it could kill them, how do you manage that. >> i think there's that moment of when you know nothing but absolute misery is in front of you and you're ready to thrive on it, that's the weird gene. this is going to suck and that's why i'm here.
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there is no explanation for it, it just feels awesome. the more adversely on my back, the better our manager doing it. you probably got more out of serving after losing her leg than before because not only can i do this but i can do this with this leg and i think that rolls into the side of it, somebody's gotta do it, let me do it. it's kind of that same mentality. half the time they didn't even have a gun on them because their job didn't allow it. they had to be on their hands and knees and it's a moment of truth. did you pay attention, did you learn, do you care you want to be there, all those questions you can maybe go out and complacency can hide, you've got to have your knowledge based on your skill base and you gotta be able to work with people to give the information out that you work with so you can see what they saw.
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these are the most unappreciated, underrated bad asses. we like it that way. you can't do this job out of ego. you'll make mistakes and you get people hurt. that's what's cool about it. you talk about rational fear versus irrational fear. you've studied the brain, part of your life's work out of the military is to understand that psychology in combat for people who haven't been there and haven't seen it, how do you manage it. >> training, muscle memory, we do a great job in our perspective services of training and training and taking as close to x as humanly possible. what i mean by that is not actually inflicting harm on ourselves for what we cannot operate. so, it mirrors itself so well because we trained so hard and create so much misery in the training process that when it
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goes off in real life, literally that just takes over. >> i didn't know this before undertaking this project, you had a serious training accident in 2009. it could have ended your career. >> just another day at the office i like to say. like anything else, we were flying with the 160, arguably the best on earth in my opinion and they hang out there and we hang out there and we just collided with the ship and killed one injured. but i gotta tell you there wasn't one short of the individual that passed away, but everyone else fought as hard as they could, including the pilots that we ended up deploying with months later i got back online and that goes to that warrior gene and the whole you have to fill. for me i just took back, and joey was taking about that
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earlier. i could use this for a reason, to do nothing, back injury. i could've used my injury to do nothing and say i'm done like these guys, they say hell yeah, i'm going back. it's just an injury, so what. hit hard baby. >> so you talked about in interview you did with abc after you got injured and you said you barely recognized, you characterize it better than i did but you are optimistic in a way that you didn't really understand how you could of been optimistic. how did you take the view that said hey that was the worst day of my life coming down to build up from there. >> that's a million-dollar question. i think it comes from a couple things. for for me personally, specific to me i had a brand-new son and all i could think about was man, he did not get the short end of the stick because i got hurt. he's not gonna not have a dad that does things like throw
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the ball and do those things so i had no choice but to get out of bed. from a larger picture i think you just appreciate life the fact that daniel got killed when i got hurt, he died and i lived so whom i do sit there and whine and moan and complain about these injuries when these are proof that i lived through it. he didn't. i want -- he doesn't have his life anymore. it's about knowing they hit the delete button on him. i'm lucky to live. cherish that and go live life and enjoy life and contribute and make it mean something. for me it was like a boost of energy. it was like a boost of purpose. i think these guys would tell you, that moment you find your purpose purpose in life, and that might happen times in life but the moment you find what you're here to dedicate
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your time to, in that moment, that's life right there. for me it was post injury. being in the hospital and thinking you might not live through that, right on, let's get it done. >> not looking for a handout, just a handout. we talked about this there can be that pervasive sense, i've got these injuries and that's why am for the rest of my life, how do you unpack that. i never wanted anybody to look at me like that guys handicap, i want to be the guy that yeah, i'm handicap but i'm in out run you if you want to get in the foot race. >> is it harder for me to it do, what you do easily, i want to appreciate it more and probably going to eventually be better at it.
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i've got a put that much more effort into it. it's gonna mean that much more to me. i don't ever get mad at someone for taking stuff for granite, but i'm not going too. >> what i love about this is you get a chance to hear guys in their own word. it's an interview in their own words, talking about their experience the emotion, the fear, the management, the humor and that's why i think people enjoy it. we've got a few more topics, under the trump administration a peace agreement kindly brought the taliban to the table, but are the taliban all talk. is peace even possible question right should all troops be coming home? this is a group that would know, coming up next. at t-mobile, we believe you should get more.
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>> it's amazing to think about how long that war has going on. the president has vowed to bring all troops home at the end of this year. it is now to time the wrap it up in peace with the taliban, is it possible? ewald served and seen so much. where are we now. >> i'm no longer trying to answer the question of should we be in afghanistan, i'm back here saying why. tell us why. what are we accomplishing? what's the goal in it. you can tell me about the why and tell me what the goal is and how were accomplishing it, you can look back five years ago and it was still just moving the goalpost. were we ever going to bring peace? know we were making sure nothing came to us and attacked us from afghanistan. i'm on board with triple j to be honest with you. i think there's no distinct,
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clear endgame at this point. when your senior kids deploy, that's the whole reason of deploying so your kids don't have too. i'm just come at this point, 20 years is a long time. >> will it end well? in the afghan government survived, can they defend themselves. >> i hope this doesn't sound too cold but i just don't care. i just don't care about what happens to afghanistan, i just don't. any country for that matter. if they can't take care themselves, i don't really see the need for us to always have to step in and fix something. >> what you think. >> i agree from those standpoints come of that country has been at war for thousands and thousands of years. the interesting thing about our sons and daughters going into the military now, wait until you go so long that
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you're now in gunfights with the kids that were three and four years old when the initial wars picked off. that's enlightening within itself. so now they've grown up, as did their parents and grandparents and their great-grandparents but that's what they've grown up in. if they sit down and have a negotiation, it's meaningless. they never come to the table with any endgame. they come to the end game and it's all most like a timeout. okay we will give you peace, and what they're doing is there recovering. >> i don't understand how bringing the taliban to the table, when your country is commodity is terrorism or terroristic activity and instability, drugs, something that we don't allow, any of
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tha that, what good is it gonna do too have a peace treaty with them. the taliban is going to go away, if it goes away someone's there that we pissed off well enough that's gonna gather some forces, gain momentum and working to start all over again. but can we afford to do that any more, china is trying to build an army. they say how bad is it gonna be if someone else comes in. >> you can even look at it like we are 20 years seasoned veterans ready to go for another round in the ring or were burnt out. we seriously print out. were either lying in wait, ready to come if the fight has to come here all awaken that
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welcome back to modern warriors. guys, we went out to the range, we've talked about your particular stories from this new book modern warriors which folks are going to love. we talked about, a little but about current conflict, not a lot of optimism about afghanistan but all based on the reality of being there. now i want to talk about coming home, the transition, all of you have shared your experiences in that but you've also use that experience to try to help other bats. morgan you've talked a lot and worked a lot in this. where are we right now with the post 911 generation. >> were making progress. the glass is half-full, were making progress. i think we got started a little late. offer this, the perspective that if you have an 18-year-old that goes from high school where you have to
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go to school, here's your class schedule, here's the uniform of the day come you have to wear these if you go to that type of schooling you enter into the military and you're in the military so now you're 28 and then you offload from the military which is very much a bullet train going down the tracks. they don't slow down at the station and they just put you off. here you're introduced into the world, civilian world but you've never lived in it. you've had mommy and daddy and then you have the service and now you're alone, and believe it, make no mistake about it there's no ceo, no company standing there, no job offers, there's none of that. imagine how, what a blow that is to the individual, and then if you add injury, and individual that has had a traumatic injury to the brain, we still don't have a good understanding of what that looks like and it's a very slippery slope. now everyone's coming to the realization i've seen these problems we need to work on these transition, and now the
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infrastructure is starting to be built. i think part of the problem is the relationship between the millennial's because a bunch of us were milling meals and the relationship between that millennial and the recruiter and the government and going into the military being promised 20 years of service and medical care. i think it was a good thing when it was created but now it's debilitating because we don't get out and understand the rest of our life is still up to us. we have to get out with bigger and say i'm in a go tackle the next thing. >> their summary opportunities for veterans to go out and find that next chapter of their life. he got close that chapter and you gotta move on. it was hard for me. it was hard. it was. for me it was just scared of losing that edge. at that time in my life i was 17 years old when i joined the army, parental consent and that was my peak, as bad as i
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ever would be. i think having my son was when i finally close that chapter. >> thank you gentlemen, we'll be right back in a moment. here's to one more, the lexus december to remember sales event. lease the 2021 nx 300 for $349 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. to syour body needs routine. system, and we'll make your first month's payment. centrum helps your immune defenses every day, with vitamin c, d and zinc. season, after season. ace your immune support, with centrum. "you have cancer." how their world stopped and when they found a way to face it. for some, this is where their keytruda story begins. keytruda-a breakthrough immunotherapy that may treat certain cancers. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer,
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welcome back to modern warriors. thank you very much for being here and obviously for your service. it was a fantastic show. you still know how to shoot. >> he does. >> he can move. this guy can still shoot and joey is an all around good guy. >> you guys have been fantastic. one of the best group that we've had. it's representative of this book that i know america is going to love. if you're not a member of fox nation subscribed to fox nations now for a patriot plant and you'll receive a copy of this new book
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featuring all of these guys and more and to watch the directors cut, the longer unedited version you can go it to fox nation.com. that's enough for us modern warriors. have a great evening. ♪ mark: hello america i met mark levin and this is "life, liberty and levin". see this? this is my mostly peaceful protest. i'm sick and tired of this country being torn down and i'm sick and tired of hearing from people in the streets about how awful our history is. i'm sick and tired of pampered, multimillionaire athletes telling us about systemic raci racism. i'm sick
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