census numbers in time before president-elect biden is nominated he could come in and say i will get rid of this case and include those illegal immigrants and in fact in the past they have never had this happen before, gillian. >> gillian: david, sorry to interrupt you we have to leave it there. we are running tight on time. that does it for us today. >> john: gillian, great to have you. outnumbered starts right now. >> gillian: thanks, trace. >> harris: let's begin with the fox news alert. president trump has called out the fbi and justice department in his very first interview sings election day the doj is quote missing in action on his claims of election fraud which ghowrts multiple states have dismissed. no comment yet from the justice department. a senior fbi official told fox news there is no blanket investigation of voter fraud as of today. but if appropriate evidence presents itself, the bureau would look at it.

the president still show nothing signs that he will concede to president-elect joe biden insisting the fed must investigate what he calls a rigged election. >> it's inconceivable. you would think if you are in the fbi, or department of justice this is the biggest thing you could be looking at. where are they? i have not seen anything. they just keep moving along and they go onto the next president. >> harris: you are watching outnumbered i'm harris faulkner here today host of kennedy on the fox business channel kennedy. fox news headlines 24/7 reporter carley shimkus is here and fox news contributor jessica tarlov and joining us center virtual couch seat host of one nation on fox nation lawrence jones. hello post thanksgiving. are we awake yet?

>> jessica: barely. >> harris: lawrence, when you look at this and the president's level of frustration, things are moving forward. they are moving ahead. what would you say to him and his followers about where we are with the doj? haven't heard anything from the doj yet. >> lawrence: well, i think for starters we should start off by saying friday that the president said that if the election is certified that electoral college that he will leave the white house. that was one of the things. so all the naysayers about this constitutional crisis, i think that kind of puts that to bed. but i do think that the burden now is on the's legal team to comthe president'slegal team to. have you seen people like rush limbaugh that is frustrated with the legal team because they came out with so many claims but hasn't cut the muster when it comes to our legal process. i think if i could say anything to the president's supporters,

put pressure on the legal team to actually get a case in front of a judge that is credible there is no doubt there is voter fraud. the question is was there enough voter fraud to overturn this election? and right now, based on the fact that we know it's not enough of that. >> harris: kennedy, there is always something you are talking about human beings. you are talking about inanimate objects. it's not that they never happen or are found. it's just that now we are so forensically focused on them the point though is there enough of what is found to make a difference? >> kennedy: any time you are changing votes or suppressing votes, i think that's enough for at least a local investigation. and i think lawrence is absolutely right. and that's why you are seeing frustration from some conservatives because becauses r as they are concerned yes, we are all. in we are behind you. we want to see what really happened but they also want to

see the evidence. they want to see this legal team put up. and, you saw the legal team distance themselves from sidney powell after she made some outrageous claims and there is also the disparity between what his team is claiming in public press conferences and the evidence that they are putting before judges. and the evidence they are filing in these court briefs is pretty mild in comparison and still that by and large many of those are being dismissed. so there could be different local avenues to investigate this and investigate it shall be. >> harris: carley, i'm looking at my notes today for the agenda items. one of the things we will see later on today is that there is a meeting of arizona house and senate men's who are doing exactly what kennedy is talking about. they are taking a look at potential fraud and other you know what's in the system on a local level.

the trump legal team jenna ellis and rudy giuliani, the legal team for the trump campaign will join virtual. and that's in the next couple of hours or. so so i mean this is going on in some areas at the local level. but, at this point, lawrence has pointed out, you would have to have so many of this happening almost i'm mull takennously to make a difference expeditiously. >> carley: i spoke to a constitutional expert on "fox & friends first" mark smith a very smart guy. he pointed out that the court system in his perspective hasn't treated president trump and his legal team fairly because a lot of the evidence that they need is currently in the hands of the people that the legal team are suing. you know, the county and state elections. so, according to him, it would be up to the courts to sort of force their hands to give that supposed evidence, if there is any, on over to the trump legal team and that hasn't happened

yet. but, during his conversation with maria bartiromo, president trump did say that he is going to use 125% of his energy to continue to contest this election. so, while joe biden is getting those classified briefings now and he is filling out his cabinet, president trump and his supporters are still very much in this fight. like you said, it does boil down to having enough evidence to be able to overturn this election which will definitely be a tall task. they have already proved election irregularities in terms of several thousands of votes that weren't counted in georgia. they definitely need more than that for him to be able to succeed in any significant way. >> harris: you know, jessica, you can look at how the media in some places have covered what's going on right now. really not leaving a lot of room for all of us to go forward as one as a nation. and sometimes that takes, as you and i both know, respecting both

sides. that's what we do on the show every day and listening to people joe biden though had a word for, you know, the process and called those who are supporting the president, called those kind of in the food chain of government on that side of the aisle as being sincere as they move through the transition. do you think maybe that could spread. i'm sort of being facetious, but, wow. >> jessica: i totally agree with you about the importance of people treating each other with respect. and acknowledging that folk's feelings are real. they may have been fed a bunch of lies about this, and that's what brian kemp has talked about, the governor of georgia who now president trump has gone after and saying it was a support to support him a couple years ago when he ran. he said people are sincere in their feelings as you point out and they have been told that this election was stolen from them. that their votes did not count. that there were irregularities getting up into the hundreds of thousands which are the margins

that president trump would need to win by to overturn the results. look at michigan where joe biden won by 12 times the margin that trump did in 2016. i hope that we will have for care for each other going forward. we also need most fundamentally for people on the right to accept the fact that this election was free and fair and i would encourage everyone to listen to chris krebs' interview yesterday on "60 minutes" yesterday with scott pelley where he went through every single accusation of fraud that has been lobbed out there and he explained how each of them had absolutely no merit. talked about how many paper ballots were used. he talked about the hand recount in georgia. he talked about how nothing went through a dominion system in venezuela. hugo chavez didn't direct this from the grave. didn't go to germany. it was complete you had in america. americans voted, and they chose joe biden and the right needs to accept that.

>> harris: can i hear lawrence jones wants to chime if but we will move on. if you can think of something, cut. in president trump meanwhile reportedly already has his eye on 2024. according to the daily beast, three sources say he has even floated the idea of stealing joe biden's thunder by announcing his next campaign during inauguration week. beneath the headline trump is already gaming out a 2020 run it writes he has not yet conceded 2020 but is already looking at keeping republicans in line and making biden's life miserable. lawrence? >> lawrence: well, this is going to be wait and see. i mean, the president is definitely going to run. he still has the republican party on lock. his personality was the thing that got him defeat you had in the past election. a lot of americans feel like they are better off when you look at before this pandemic how they were. i think what it is going to come

down to is joe biden, his ability to govern and do people want the old days back? and what i mean by that is, you know, a lot of people have talked about the personality. that only goes for so long. are people's' lives going to get better under a joe biden administration? if that's the case, then they will bring him or kamala harris back. but if that's not the case, then maybe people will have some buyer's remorse and say you know what? he was a brass guy. he was a bowl in a china shop, but my life was better, maybe i will give him another shot. >> harris: i'm kind of curious, kennedy, what does -- you know, when the president show chose me pence there was a clear cut strategy in all of that in terms of evangelicals. in terms of his having governed a state. you know, there was a whole understanding there of what you are going to get. what does kamala harris bring to

a joe biden on this particular day especially when you think about what lawrence was just saying, you know, what would life be like in a joe biden presidency? she is part of that package, too. >> kennedy: oh, she certainly is. she is very smart to accept the vp spot because she knows that's a guaranteed spot for her for the presidency what does she bring to the administration a horrible record on criminal justice reform and essentially being wrong on all major issues and career of blatant opportunism. i totally respect going for yours, but the manner in which she did that has been questionable for some time. but, you know, it's a shrewd move on her part and so is mike pence. mike pence is going to lose the governorship in indiana and he took a bet on the trump ticket the way that mitch mcconnell took a bet not putting merrick garland's name up for senate confirmation. and those bets have all

played -- paid off, rather. >> harris: carley, real quickly before we go to break. you are going to step on nowrgs week and roll on as president trump. what do you think about this. >> carley: i'm so glad we did because as kennedy and lawrence were making their brilliant points i was thinking about i don't know if it daily beast report is true or not but if it's not true i could see the president read about it and saying that's a good idea. i shouldn't thought of that yet. it is sort of his personality to possibly do this. on the other hand, i could see the president also really needing a break. like we talked about he has a lot of energy even he needs a break. he needs to calculate on a political level if this is worth it for him. >> he is going to be in republican politics. he will be a driving force.

if these legal challenges don't pan out if he should be on the 60 orback being a candidate at this point. >> sydney mccain told me that recently. he is a force. state of arizona so critical as we were watching weeks ago. i wonder is this actually still going to be donald j. trump's party going forward? senate republicans stepping up their push now to derail some of president-elect joe biden's cabinet picks. and now some high profile members of biden's own party are also warning against one potential nominee. ♪

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>> kennedy: republicans taking aim at joe biden's picks. spokesman tweeting that biden's pick to head the office of management and budget has no chance to be confirmed in the senate if the republicans hold the majority. he points to tanden's past history of, quote, disparaging comments about g.o.p. senators including susan collins. another key republican is slamming tanden as well as secretary of state nominee antoni blinken and avril haines and mayorkas. joe biden wanted to the pick weak on china dhs nominee to who sold visas for powerful political friends and a partisan hack who called susan collins the worst for omb. so much for unity. meantime the "new york times" reporting some of the biden team's past consulting work composed an ethics test for incoming administration. so, here -- there is a lot to

pick apart here but it seems as though some of these establishment democrats are not set for smooth sailing in the senate. what do you make of some of these comments? >> harris: you know, warm we are now is somebody who has been in politics for 47 years, joe biden. and so along the way he will have made friends, deals, what politicians do, right? and so i don't think anybody should be surprised that he is going to chose some people that are going to rub some people really raw. because those are the people that he has had in his circle. tandetan tanden was an aid to hy clinton. when you look at her past, that might be somebody who just in terms of you who she looks at things, people are going to be familiar with. it's not like is he going to be nominating a bunch of strangers. sometimes that can help you and sometimes it can't. in this instance when you get guys like tom cotton or others who say they are going to fight the nomination of someone, they are looking for a fight, right? i mean, we know that these are

not unknowns we will have to see how it shakes out. i wonder if biden will be sincere is he listened to that he is a important promised to pick a moderate g.o.p. how much does it matter coronas in hicronies.if you are in the t does that look like. because you know progressives think they are owed, they don't think it, they have said it. >> kennedy: that's a great point. they are the ones who are pushing back on several of these nominee he is. and carley, we have to be very mindful of this cronyism. because for a lot of people who are establishment players in both parties, when their party is out of power they go get cushy jobs at some of these consulting firms that, you know, one, happens to oversee a bunch of federal defense contracts and they also go to various news

channels. >> that happens on both sides. carley, what is really disturbing here is have you got antoni blinken and michelle make very lucrative deals once they are in positions of power. >> carley: first order of business for any incoming administration is to pick a cabinet. and i think that what is unfolding right now could be a little taste, a little sampler, platter if you will of the next four years where you have moderate democrats that think that joe biden is doing a good job. his picks make sense. republicans thinking that he is doing a horrible job and everything is terrible. and progressive democrats also saying the same thing for a very different reason. and, you know, on the progressive front, president trump has changed politics forever. we touched on this in the first

block a bit. he has changed the republican party. he has also changed the democratic party. i don't think the progressive squad would have risen to the prominence that it currently is without being a foil for president trump. and now, they stand to sort of under cut the incoming biden administration by pushing back on a lot of his ideas and the democratic party not being the unifying force that the republican party currently is. >> kennedy: meantime one possible biden cabinet pick could set up a showdown with the far left squad that carley was talking about. the president-elect is considering former chicago mayor rahm emanuel for transportation secretary according to axios reports biden is weighing emanuel's experience on infrastructure against criticism of his record on policing. progressives already sounding the alarm, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez calling emanuel's potential appointment,

quote: shameful and concerning. congresswoman rashida tlaib tweeting that a less visible role doesn't sound good either. new squad member jamaal bowman emanuel should not be considered for any position. who needs republicans to check these picks when you have the squad, lawrence? >> lawrence: this was dumb to begin with. this is a guy that is a part of the dirty chicago politics. he concealed information regarding laquon mcdonald's murder. they tried to hide the tape and footage and evidence that was out there. this is a guy that ran a city that was responsible for transparency. so this would be a slap in the face of those supporters, especially black supporters, that supported joe biden. in return, he hires this guy? here's my thought on this. there is an old political trick where when you owe someone a favor and you know you can't

appoint them you leak that you are going to appoint them and allow them to be buried in the press. you let them be buried in the press so you can say look, sorry, rahm, i tried. i you wanted, to but the stories are just too much. i predict that will happen. >> kennedy: interesting. too much but a powerful family and rahm emanuel's brother is already part of the covid-19 team. dr. ezekiel emanuel, jessica. so, what do you make of what lawrence just said about possibly burying him before he would even be confirmed? >> jessica: i think that one emanuel brother is probably enough for team biden at this point. >> kennedy: ouch. >> jessica: i do take lawrence's point. ari emanuel can get involved in case anyone needs. i'm very happy with ezekiel emanuel. i do agree with lawrence that it would be a mistake especially considering the past few months after we have had after the

murder of george floyd in minnesota. the entire country was unified in support of black lives matter and reforming policing. i know people are going to push back. i i'm not saying that people are unified in the actual movement but saying that black lives do matter and obviously this man was murdered very similarly to how laquon mcdonald was shot 16 times and that officer jason van dyke is currently behind bars. and rahm emanuel left a record behind that you saw every single candidate running for mayor this time around including lori lightfoot running against the culture that rahm emanuel oversaw in chicago all those years. so i don't think that it speaks well of the direction that we're moving forward on on criminal justice reform. and maybe lawrence is absolutely correct that the plan was to let cable news pundits and the press bury disappointment before we got to the point that he actually made it official. kennedy contend all right. getting rich.

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>> harris: counties across california will begin stricter controversies restrictions today as thanksgiving travelers are returning home while cases are arising there and they have been across most of the country as well. los angeles county is calling for its 10 million residents to stay home. beaches, trails, parks, will remain open but only for gatherings from a single household san francisco moving to the state's most restrictive tier shutting down indoor activity. movie theaters, gyms, houses of worship. the restrictions forced the san

francisco 49ers out of their home stadium for the next several weeks. they reportedly may finish the season playing in arizona. meanwhile, new jersey governor phil murphy says another shut down is not out of question. >> two or three months we are in the fight of our lives there is a lot of private setting transmission going on. whether is cold so folks are doing what they were doing three months ago outside they are doing it inside. and that cocktail when you add to that the holiday season, we're in for a rough ride here. >> harris: just so you know i live in the state of new jersey and it has been a little bit friend nic at thphrenetic and a. the schools are open. you see the governor there unfortunately caught a couple times maybe breaking the rules, who knows. kennedy, i come to you. let's talk california. where things are a lot less

murkier. my goodness gracious. you could have your own beach with your family, girl. >> kennedy: you can. i have to california several times during the pandemic and the beaches are pretty loaded because it's one of the few places where people can find some sort of respite from the virus. but they have shuttered outdoor dining and that's really really hurt restaurants and some of these stories about places spending tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars to retrofit their establishment so they can stay in business a lot of them will have to shut down they are not going to make any money this critical holiday season. if you have a restaurant you can't always sell your stuff via delivery and disturb side. curbside. people are hurting. one of the things eric garcetti being considered for the biden administration so l.a. may get a new mayor.

>> harris: just one family on the time or on the beach, lawrence with only your family there is a stretch outside of lingerie that i would like to take my nine favorite people to. i don't know how you police something like this. in fact, how do you police it better than you could motivate it? the messaging now is what really counts. we know masks work we know it's difficult because people have fatigue. that's a different message than what kennedy. drive this economy right into the ditch. don't do as i say gavin newsom. do as i do. too bad that's not true. >> lawrence: that's where we are at right now. the fear for me is this is the last straw for a lot of these businesses. they are literally at the very end and trying to make it. many of us have made the commitment to go out and support those small businesses it's still not enough. another shut down -- my barber was telling me the other day if

they shut down new york again he is putting up a for sale sign. he cannot take it anymore. he will make house calls and find other -- there seems to be no interest in that meanwhile we have already talked about it. you have the very leaders that say do all this stuff and they don't it we know because of the few examples when they get caught. what's happening when everyone is watching? >> harris: preach. >> lawrence: i think this is disgusting i know people laugh at libertarians this is why we don't like government they always play by different us rules. don't get me started on congress. haven't been able to get a bill. you made us shut down this government. all these small businesses you said 15 days to slow the spread and we are going to take care of you. meanwhile, where is the money? we don't know. >> harris: we spend a lot of money in my town on flattening the curve side. i don't know where it is. it crossed four lanes of

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stake. >> we know if chuck schumer gets his way and says now we take georgia and then we change america they would fund mentally and radically change america for the worst. we are not going to let that happen. we are the firewall to stopping socialism right here in georgia. and we are going to do that. >haters hairs lawrence, your reaction? >> i think america is wanted divided government. we saw that in the polling. >> we saw that in the last election a lot have talked about stacey abrams her ability to mobilize. she did a great job in the presidential race. here is the problem one of her key messaging points was donald trump. donald trump is no longer on the ballot. i just wonder if she is going to able to galvanize those same supporters to come out and support those democratic candidate. >> harris: jessica, do the republicans need president trump

to win georgia and what will democrats do if and when he does? >> jessica: well, i think we will do what we always do is continue to do our own messaging and have our own events. we have seen a bit of the change in the way democrats are campaigning that people are knocking on doors now. that's something in the follow-up that we have acknowledged was i wouldn't go so far to say wasn't a full on mistake with what's going on with covid people do knowed that personal. >> harris: what about covid? >> jessica: they are socially distanced. >> harris: that's why you didn't see it before with -- but you have have done that before you said you wouldn't do that. >> jessica: well, it was the height of the pandemic. we didn't have as much information about how it was. >> harris: we are at the height of the pandemic. >> jessica: okay. no. we have way more information than we did. we're at the height of the second surge according to anthony fauci yesterday and we'll be heading to a third surge he says around the christmas holiday. my point is we have more

information. we have taken into account what happened with door nook knocking and the g.o.p. was doing it responsibly. i don't think democrats are endangering people's lives. still being respectful but obviously forthcoming. to lawrence's point having trump on the ballot is obviously a huge motivator for people on the right or left. he will show up and galvanize folks. they need to be very careful of the messaging coming from president trump is that your vote didn't count in georgia so why should people believe that this time it will be different on january 5th than it was on november 3rd and could it end that people don't turn out to vote for republicans because they think that it's going to be a fraud again? >> harris: kennedy, i don't want to make all of this about covid. but it does -- is it hypocrisy here? you can't go to the polls. you can't really go to rallies. you can't do all of these things it's covid and, of course, it's

important but when jessica talks about changing how they are going to win georgia by door-knocking and doing all of that, they are more than 13 million people with covid right now. we are seeing thousands of people a week die with covid. i'm just confused by how it wasn't good then okay now but still really bad. >> kennedy: door knocking very effective if you are in georgia so inundated with the local and outside money if i lived there i would be like you can knock all you want, i'm going to give you the hose or the dog. just leave me alone. i think they have plenty of information. but i do think the republicans have the momentum on their side. and that's because they have something really really important to fight for. it's not just divided government. it is the fight against

fundamentally changing government and the economy and they -- there is much more in it for them because for democrats they already have the white house. they already have the house. like they are pretty good. >> harris: all right. we are going to scoot. the biden team staff and raising questions revolving door with the media. wait until you tell you who is on the team. then you will sigh why they are being called that watch.

♪ >> kennedy: the biden harris transition team announcing what it calls a first all female communications team. some of them also have ties to mainstream media outlist. among the hires veteran democratic spokeswoman jen psaki who will serve as the white house press secretary she held several senior roles during the obama administration. she recently left her gig as a cnn contributor. symone sanders will serve as the senior adviser cnn political commentator before joining the biden campaign. and careen jean pierre serve as the principal deputy press secretary political analyst for nbc and msnbc who served as

chief public affairs officer for the far left move on.org organ. so carley, yea for women. that's great. women with be swamp dwellers too it turns out. >> carley: the communications team i think the most visible outspoken folks are usually the ones that get the job so it's no surprise that they have held tv positions previously. president trump did the same thing a lot of the folks who ended up in his administration also frequented fox news. but i do think it's so interesting that the biden team is getting so much praise for having an all-female communications team when president trump communications team also dominated by women kayleigh mcenany, katie miller, stephanie grisham. >> jessica: sean spicer.

>> carley: not him. other women to be prominent kayleigh mcenany, sarah huckabee sanders, so democrats love the eye at this politics thing if you praise one side you should at least acknowledge the other side. >> kennedy: jessica, will you praise president trump's communication staff, please? >> jessica: not today but ask me again tomorrow. no, carley is correct that obviously when something happens when the side you are not on you should acknowledge that it did. i felt the conversation around general o'malley run the first presidential campaign and acknowledging that kayleigh mcenany was the first one to do it doing it for donald trump in 2016. there are men on donald trump's communications people. brian morgenstern who had been on our airwaves many times. i believe to be a man and who identify as such and is he part

of the team and i believe there are two others whose names are escaping me right now the idea that you would hire people for communication jobs with communications experience seems like a good thing. and obviously kayleigh being the protest prominent a cnn contributor and someone i had a "fox & friends" spot 6:30 for a very long time. hiring people with experience in communicating seems like a good thing for communications jobs. >> kennedy: harris, do you think that they will need hockey golly equipment to field some of those incoming press attacks the way that president trump's spokespeople have not when f. what we have seen so far with the president-elect and vice president elect holds true. it's not that they can't ask hard questions. we haven't seen them do it. maybe that's a coming attraction to a theater near you post the pandemic when all theaters are

reopen. i'm looking specifically at i think it's karen jean pierre and forgive me if i didn't get her name right. background communication kills skills, yes. currently an aide to kamala harris. i mean she was and national spokesperson and senior adviser for the george soros funded left wing group as you said move o on.org she lauded 2020 presidential candidates for avoiding apec. it isn't just the communication skills. i'm wondering if some is politics of some of these people will come to bear as well. it's worth asking when you have those types of things in your background. you mentioned she was a pundit, a contributor. i would imagine those things worked well on her resume. what will her toggle and style look like. >> lawrence: can we get pressers he is only doing one a week

right now. >> kennedy: he has been shielded from the press. we are going to talk about that because president trump tweeting well-wishes to his 2020 rival after president-elect joe biden hurts himself playing with the family dog over the weekend. he was seriously mauled. that story next. ♪ day. record low rates have dropped to new all time lows. with the va streamline refi there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no money out of pocket. one call can save you $3000 a year.

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♪ >> kennedy: president-elect joe biden's doctor says he will likely have to wear a walking boot for the next several weeks. biden fractured his right foot while playing with his dog over the weekend. biden spokesperson says the 78-year-old visited delaware orthopedist out of an apun dance of caution. tweeting get well soon after retweeting a video of biden leaving treatment. so, lawrence it sounds like he has a fractured foot. it's no fun. the boot is awful. especially in winter. i feel for the guy. are you buying the story that he was playing with his dog?

>> lawrence: i don't know. old things break easily. i mean, i wish him well but it could have happened. is he very old and they break. so, there you go. >> kennedy: carley, do you think his dog pinned him down in an act of aggression. ,. >> carley: probably not on purpose. i do like that president trump tweeted get well soon: it would be merciless. remember when the president short of shuffled down the ramp and everybody freaked out and said what's happening? could this be a sign of old age or something like that? and then he responded is he like no, it was raining and i'm wearing work shoes. that's a recipe for disaster. so, you know, i sort of feel for president trump when you look at the differences here where he had to watch literally everything he did so he didn't make a mistake in front of the

media that they could criticize him for and, you know, joe biden is tweeted much differently. >> kennedy: yes, if president trump went to a facility to get a ct scan they would say that he had his fight amputated. jessica? >> jessica: i honestly don't really know even what to say about this if donald trump had a dog he is the first president not to have a dog in the white house. he would have a similar amount of attention like everyone on twitter. biden campaign this is what happened. covered like normal people cover it. the president wasn't really wishing him well he was trolling him because that's all that he does. and to lawrence's point about old things breaking the president is old, too. everybody in washington is old. so we can have that conversation if you would like. >> lawrence: i agree. >> kennedy: ezekiel emanuel if he had his way they wouldn't

live past 75. ezekiel emanuel hates old people i love them. i want the president-elect to heal but i do think this is the beginning of much to come. thanks everyone on the couch. what a great show. happy monday to all and now here's harris. ♪ >> harris: president trump is not backing down over his fight over the election results. you are watching outnumbered overtime now i'm harris faulkner. the president is speaking out on his first interview since the election after weeks of legal challenges claiming voter fraud in battle ground states like pennsylvania and georgia. the president told our own maria bartiromo there are huron dreads of affidavits backing up those fraud claims but that many judges are refusing to even look at them signaling he may take the fight to the highest court in the land. >> i'm going to