people. in the next few weeks we will see people vaccinated. thank you very much. thanks for joining us. see you on "the five." bill hemmer, ready? >> bill: nice to see you. see you at 5:00. thank you, dana. here yes go. big hour. i'm bill hemmer monitoring self headlines from covid to the election. the a.g. bill barr said the justice department found no evidence of fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. as the president's team pushes back and the results of the challenges. several hearings taking place this hour. awaiting for a advisory panel to vote on who should be the first to get the vaccine once it's available. big news in a moment. i'll talk with doj deputy dir t

director. to the north lawn we roll from the news from john roberts at this hour. good afternoon. start there. >> good afternoon to you. clearly as you can expect, a difference of opinion between what the the attorney general is saying and what president trump is thinking and his campaign is thinking with the interview with the associated press, william barr said to date we have not seen fraud on a scale that could affect a different outcome in the election. there's two important words, to date, which leaves open the possibility that in the future we could see widespread voter fraud or irregularity that could change the outcome in some states. to show you how much the campaign is on a different page, the attorney general, rudy guliani and jenna ellis, the president's counsel on the vote challenges in a statement saying "with all due respect, to the

attorney general, there's been no a semblance of an investigation. we've gathered ample evidence in six states that they have not examined. we have many onces under oath that they saw crimes being committed with voter fraud. as far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the doj. the justice department has not audited any voting machines or used subpoena powers to determine the truth." barr pointed to one specific allegation. that was one raised in a press conference that the voting machines were rigged and votings counted overseas. barr saying "there's been one assertion that would be systematic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. the dhs and doj have looked into that and so far we haven't seen anything to substantiate that." barr said weeks before the election because of mass mail-in

voting the system could be ripe for fraud and abuse. he had given direction to consider substantial allegations of voter froud -- fraud. barr said "fraud is particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. they're not systemic allegations. those have been run down. they're being run down. some have been broad and cover a few thousand votes. they have been followed up on." barr also saying in this interview that many of the complaints should be handled at the civil level because they do not rise to criminal conduct. barr said there's a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as a fix-all and people don't like something, they want the department of justice to come in and

investigate. so far nothing from the president himself on the barr comments this afternoon. he is pretty active on twitter right now. monitoring the hearing

when a president comes to office, he can determinate ate of his attorneys. by elevating him to special counsel, that will put pressure on the biden administration and his eventual a.g. nomination to keep that special counsel in place. we'll see if the press holds biden and the a.g. to the same standards. >> bill: let me add more here. fox news can confirm this news as well. i can confirm this was happening two weeks prior to the election in november, which takes us four or five weeks back in. i'm also told that durham's investigation will be narrow in scope. what does that mean? >> well, i think the

investigation is still going to be what it was as a u.s. attorney for the district of connecticut. which is the origins of the russia investigation looking not just at the department of justice, which we know the inspector general can do but looking at the broader intelligence community. what did the dni do, what did the cia do. how was this all worked together along with the fisa applications to conduct this russia investigation. so the scope may be small, but the reach will be broad in that i assume and i think that it will go to the larger intelligence community as well. >> thanks, ian. quick news on that. thank you. we'll bring you back if there's more from the doj. a lot going on on the covid front. waiting to learn which groups could be the first to get the vaccine once it's available. happening at this hour, a cdc advisory panel with an emergency vote on that. that's at expected at 4:00.

this is bob here from is st. joseph's university college. ashih shaw is also here with us. doctor, you start. who gets it first, how do we decide, where does it go first. >> well, if i were the people at the cdc, i would send the vaccine to the hotspots within the country first. i would certainly i'm you -- immunize the healthcare workers and doctors. and the question in the u.k., do we do the elderly and those at greatest risk above 70. my answer to that would be yes. so i could cover those two groups first. then i'd go from there to the paramedi paramedics, emts, healthcare

workers, et cetera and bus drivers and et cetera and people handling our food. we have to keep them healthy. >> doctor, jump in here. how does it work, how do they make this decision in this ongoing meeting in atlanta right now? >> so bill, there's a few different things they're trying to factor in. right? they're trying to figure out who is essential that we have to protect right away. healthcare workers are at the top of the list. where has the suffering been? that's where you see the long-term care facilities. 40% of people that have died that have been residents of long-term care facilities. so long-term care residents in the first batch. essential workers apeople at high risk in the second batch. the rest of us follow after that. this is the strategy that they end up with. they're weighing a variety of factors and try to make a

reasoned decision what the right approach is. >> bill: i have a couple of calendars here to show our audience at home. november and december. keep your eye on november 2. right? the week after, election day is november 3. on november 9, pfizer announces their results. moderna follows a week after. and then we move to december. on december 10, you've got the fda with a meeting schedule on pfizer's vaccine. moderna follows a week after that. doctor, there's been some debate whether or not -- this is the cdc today we're talking about. some debate as to whether or not the fda is moving as fast as it can. what is your feeling on that? >> yeah, bill. i was on an advisory committee for many years at the fda. believe me, it is worth while to take one's time even though it's only a matter of days or weeks. four weeks is not a big deal. but it could be very important

to go over the statistics, the actual data that is very, very carefully dissected in these advisory committees. and then a judgment is rendered usually at the end of one or two days and then it's either approved or disapproved or given certain protections. so that's very, very important. i don't think the process can be or should be rushed, bill. >> bill: okay, doctor. do you agree with that? >> i do. the reason is, look, it's super important to get the vaccines out quickly. we have to make sure that we have do the careful due diligence. that's what the fda is doing right now. i don't know that they can move faster than they're moving. at the end of the day, the vaccine will only work if people have confidence in it and willing to get vaccinated. so i think it is absolutely worth paying close attention to all of the details that they're doing. this is still pretty fast by any

standard. >> bill: i agree with you. are they deciding where to be distributed in the u.s. and elsewhere? is that part of what the cdc is working through? >> no. they're about distribution in the united states. companies will make decisions about america versus other countries. the cdc is -- >> bill: so it's the company that takes over distribution after that to be clear? >> yeah, they're going to be working with the federal government and the cdc in operation warp speed to get the vaccines out to public health departments, pharmacies. >> bill: we expect a vote at 4:00 eastern time. we're watching it for you. thanks, doctors. get to get you both on today. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> bill: in a moment, vaccine to accusations of hypocrisy. hours after voting to shut down outdoor dining government officials are seen outdoors in california. and president trump telling the

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>> bill: back to the breaking news from the department of justice. bill barr giving john durham the special powers of counsel. back on october 19, barr appointed durham special counsel. he will continue his investigation into the russia probe under a new administration. barr is at the white house right now. so more on this as we get it here this hour. meantime, the president tweeting that the state of georgia was scammed. it's all hand on deck for republicans there. the rnc telling fox news that they sent 500 staffers and thousands of volunteers to get out the vote for kelly loeffler and david purdue. president trump set to campaign there saturday. rick scott of florida here with us. good afternoon. a lot to get to. >> good afternoon to you. >> bill: what about the secretary of state's office talking about 250 cases of illegal voters being tried to be signed up by progressive groups?

>> homeland security is something that we have to look into. we have to make the american public that the elections are fair. we have to have voter i.d. or signatures match. we have a bill for mail-in ballots here in florida. you have to make sure there's transparency. poll watchers have to watch what's going on. you do these things, the american public will be comfortable. mean time, a run-off election in georgia. it's incumbent of every election official to make sure it's done fairly. don't vote if you don't have a right to vote. you shouldn't be trying to register if you don't have a right to register to vote. we have too make sure it's fair. >> bill: so let's do that, right? you've been down there. how doesn't look in georgia. >> we're going to win. we have unbelievable energy. two great candidates with kelly loeffler and david purdue. business people, common sense. they respect hard work. they reward hard work. they're the real deal. they care about this country.

we all know and i think even democrats realize this is for the whole enchilada. are we going to have socialism or the democrats want socialism, pack the supreme court, they want to infringe our first and second amendment rights, the green new deal which will cost close to $100 trillion. this is what this election is about. the two races in georgia. >> bill: i get that. >> republicans have to show up. >> bill: can i get back to your initial response. you said you're going to win both. that would suggest georgia is not a 50/50 state after all. you don't believe that. >> no. look, you have to go work your tail off to win these elections. we're going to win them. georgia -- look where florida went this year. trump had a big win in florida. this is a similar issues in georgia. they care about jobs, who is better for jobs, republicans. they care about law enforcement. they're not in to -- americans

especially georgians are not in to defunding the police where the democrats are. look at these basic issues. georgians are like floridians. we care about this economy. >> bill: you wonder how the presidential race turned out the way it did. the president will be there saturday. what is your feeling on that and the reports that he told close associates of the white house that he will run again in 2024. >> i'm glad he's going to georgia. i hope he works hard to get the vote out. we are all. we're trying to get our message out. we have grass roots and we hope he helps us get the vote out. it's great he runs in 2024. joe biden will raise taxes, ruin this economy. i think 24 will be a great year. 22 will be a great year for republicans. i'm going to be the incoming chair of the national republican senatorial committee. 2020 will be an outstanding year for us to increase the number of republican senators that we

have. >> bill: you have a big job. can loeffler and purdue win without president trump in the next 50 some odd days? >> i wouldn't take the chance. president trump will help get the vote out. why take the chance? they'll win with -- they're going to win over the issues. they're great candidates. you know, look, their candidates are just going to be puppets for chuck schumer. that's all. so it's not like they have -- the democrats don't have a vote. chuck schumer has a vote and they vote in lock step with him. >> bill: thanks, senator. rick scott from florida. thanks for coming by today. in a moment, a covid-19 relief package has been in limbo on the hill for months. lawmakers from both parties are trying to get a deal done. documents said to be exposed how chinese officials mishandled the outbreak from the beginning. greg palkot has more in his reporting shortly. if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back,

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neither of us got everything we wanted. both of us got much of what we wanted. my fellow republicans, if you care about the effort that. trump and his administration made, you should support this bill. >> this frame work has the support of 50 moderates in the house. one called this proposal a bridge. >> this four-month covid-19 emergency relief package will help get us through the hardest months and into a new administration. >> this afternoon the president-elect did not weigh-in on this particular frame work but did urge lawmakers to get something done now. >> congress should come together and pass robust package for relief to address these urgent needs. any package passed in a lame duck session is lucky to be at best just a start. >> a short time against, the senate majority leader says his focus is on what president trump is willing to accept. >> the one thing we all agree on is we don't have time for

messaging games. we don't have time for lengthy negotiations. the issue is that we want to get a result. i like to remind everybody that the way you get a result is you to have a presidential signature. >> speaker nancy pelosi says she told steve mnuchin that any covid relief bill has to ensure vaccinations are free and accessible to everyone. bill? >> bill: thanks, mike emanuel live on the hill. from california now, an l.a. county supervisor facing accusations of hypocrisy after she went to a restaurant and sat outdoors hours after voting to shut down outdoor dining. can't make it up. she described it as a most dangerous situation at the time of her vote. protesters expected to gather outside her home. a spokesperson said she dined out 0 on the last day it was allowed and took the proper health precautions along the way. william la jeunesse has more. what happened? >> the irony said eating

outdoors is dangerous and did it. she defended herself by saying the ban didn't take effect yet. here she is on lecturing residents. >> they're not protected from their other six tables that they're serving at that particular time. plus, all of the hours in which they're working. so it is a most dangerous situation. >> so from there she went out to a place in santa monica. local restaurant owners that are fighting her vote were stunned by the hypocrisy. >> wait a minute. restaurants are so dangerous but you're going to go eat in a restaurant? it blows me away. >> she said the new rule tuesday took effect wednesday so danger, yes, but no apology. now dr. fauci said moments ago talking to us from colorado that that undermines what little confidence people and in official decision making. >> the county has their own

ideas on right and wrong. i'm just not in agreement with it. >> so this restaurant in redondo beach is defying the order, facing fines and a loss of license. >> i think it's just wrong to shut all the restaurants down. >> i'm tired of people telling us what to do. i worry about it, yes. it doesn't rule my life. >> so some cities are considering like pasadena, have their own health department to avoid the county rules. restaurants like in michigan to california are looking at lawsuits allowing them to stay open. >> bill: thanks, william la jeunesse. nice to see you. a.g. bill barr with major headlines this hour. john durham's special counsel, what that means for his investigation under a new administration. karl rove will take it on live after this. i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans,

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>> bill: joe biden introducing his economic team to get the economy back on track. most held positions in the obama administration. how might that affect your bank account? reporting from hillary vaughn on that in a moment. karl rove stands by with analysis. we begin with peter doocy in wilmington delaware again today. peter? >> joe biden wanted progressives watching his remarks today to know that just because he didn't give elizabeth warren the job she wanted, treasury secretary, doesn't mean her influence is missing from his economic advisory team. like with his pick for deputy treasury secretary. >> i don't know. i'll tell you what, senator warren really likes you. she highly recommended you. i wasn't sure she worry that i stole you as well. thank you for being willing to do this.

>> and tanden didn't address the controversy about be republicans not wanting her to run her office. they won't even schedule her a confirmation hearing if they control the senate in january. the speaker kept the focus on the jobs that they will have if confirmed with a lot of emphasis on bringing the economy back from months of covid-19 slow-downs. >> it's an american tragedy. it's essential that we move with urgency. inaction will produce a self-reinforcing downturn causing yet more devastation. >> this is the first time we've seen biden in his walking boot. he moved well without crutches answering a shouted question by saying that he feels good with the hair line fractures. on stage, he tried to keep things light.

>> we might have to ask lynn miranda to write another musical about the first women secretary of the treasury, yellen. that's what i'm working on right now. >> and biden says he wants congress to pass immediate covid-19 relief, but that anything that they do in the lame duck would be a start. if anything happens during the lame duck, he will need the senate's help but he still has not spoken to the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, until the pool a few minutes pay off as peter mentioned. that additional covid relief that he says his economic team is working on now would be in

addition to whatever congress passes during the lake duck session. that would add more money to the deficit. biden's nominees are putting his plans for higher taxes and massive government spending in the spotlight. former fed chair janet yellen is his pick for treasury secretary. she was actually against president trump's tax cuts and jobs act that cut taxes for millions of middle class americans because she said at the time the economy did not need a boost. so now yellen is in a position to squeeze out more tax revenue without congress. yellen would oversee the irs putting her in a prime position to make tweaks to the regulations, enforcing the tax code that could help rake in more revenue. she could deploy the irs to do more audits on taxpayers to make sure they're getting every penny owed. that's a tactic used in the obama administration. she's in favor of a carbon tax that would hit all americans at the gas pump and some conservatives say that would break biden's promise not to hit

americans making $400,000 or less with higher taxes. his pick for the office and budget management, tanden would help biden play a key role on significant economic initiatives. she would help reverse the tax cuts, expand the affordable care act and be in charge of prioritizing government spending on things like biden's $2 trillion green energy plan. getting her confirmed is going to be tricky. before taking the stage with biden today, tanden was busy doing damage control deleting thousands of tweets, some of them targeting senators that she needs to get confirmed. she's had a combative relationship with people politically and physically. in 2008 she accused of punching bernie sanders 2020 campaign director in the chest when he was asking hillary clinton a question that tanden did not like. she has denied that saying she

pushed him. she did not slug him. bill? >> bill: hillary, thank you. hillary vaughn in wilmington, delaware. >> look, this whole thing is a terrible situation. this should have never been allowed to happen. you know, it's an embarrassment to our country, all over the world they're talking about it. yeah, i would consider a special prosecutor. because you know, this is not a counsel that sounds so nice. i went through three years of a special counsel prosecutor. i call prosecutor. it's a much more accurate term. >> that from sunday morning futures with maria here on fox. bill barr has given john durham the powers of a special counsel. in fact, it happened act two weeks prior to the election. that order allows him to keep investigating the russian probe origins. bill barr is at the white house as we speak. we'll bring in karl rove.

what do you make on the move on behalf of the a.g. about 35 minutes ago? >> we can guarantee the durham investigation will continue unless and until joe biden's administration decides that they want a kerfuffle by firing him. he's not a republican, not a democrat. he indicted and sent to jail the republican governor of connecticut that was a close and personal friend of president bush. he's a tough character. he will do what he thinks is right. this appointment gives him to continue beyond the end of the trump administration. the only way that they can end this is for the new administration to basically fire him and i think there would be political heck to pay if they did that. >> bill: he made another headline last hour. he talked about no fraud that has been found to overturn the election, a quick comment on that. why is he making that with the a.p. today? >> it's because the attorney general felt that he was asked a

question and he felt the question deserved an answer. the doj and the fbi had looked into some of the information that had been provided and found no evidence of systemic fraud. >> bill: did you see the "wall street journal"? rahm emanuel is writing into that. how biden can make the senate stone wall. start with issues that cross party lines and look to november state ballot measures. it's an interesting piece. i don't know if you agree with it or not. might be a first. >> i like the mayor and i respect him. he and i do some speeches together. i thought he was off the mark on this. let's dissect it. two white boards. he said let's find issues that republican senators benefit from breaking with their leadership like the $15 minimum wage. in order to win re-election, let's get republicans to break with leadership. that's not a good recipe. the first thing you want them to

do is break with the people that brought them to the dance? let the president use executive orders and ask congress to pass them into law. do everything you can by executive order around turn to the congress on immigration, the new green deal, prescription drugs that surprise millions, let's require congress to put into law what i have put in to an executive order. doesn't work. to remind you, that in 2009 mayor emanuel was the chief of staff to barack obama during the discussion of the stimulus bill. the administration laid out their stimulus bill. the house republicans ordered to make recommendations about how to frame that bill. that is the famous meeting where i susrahm was there where president obama dismissed him by saying i won. you don't matter. you need to get people to have -- feel like they have a place at the table. maybe you focus on incremental reforms, maybe you try to find common ground. maybe you let the house and the senate pass bills and then take

it to a conference committee and compromise. it's been done before. george w. bush did it in his first year with a tax bill that a quarter of democrats in the senate voted for in june. no child left behind which passed the house and the senate with gigantic margins by the end of the year. how did he do it? he got democrats and republicans in a room. george miller and john boehner, house democrat, house republican, ted kennedy, judd gregg, senate democrat, senate republican, to lead the effort to find common ground. you don't get forward movement by jamming everything in an executive order and your job republican senate is to do what a democratic president tells you to do and put that into law. >> bill: we'll see if that happens. thanks, karl, with reaction on that. >> you bet. >> bill: watching the cdc advisory panel happening now in atlanta. big doings here now. there will be major headlines in the next hour on who should be

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>> continued questions about the timeline of the covid pandemic. specifically how china handled the outbreak in the begins, december a year ago. greg palkot picks up the story live in london on that. greg? >> hi, bill. yeah. that's right. it's been about a year since the first covid-19 case was detected in china. recent months reports have indicated how much beijing held back in those early days. according to various u.s. government intelligence studies as reported by the associated press and "the new york times" and others, china covered up the extent of the coronavirus in the city of wuhan concealing the severity of the disease. this as throughout january and february of this year, covid cases and deaths mounted in china in the first lockdowns were put in place. china reportedly health off

telling the world health organization and other countries including the u.s. about how contagious this virus was. experts say all of this hindered the ability of the international community to come to grips with its disease. it was not just chinese president xi doing the hiding but local officials in wuhan afraid to reveal the problem to beijing. they a tribute the delays to the state-run society and the new nature of the virus that overwhelmed the chinese medical season. china is not alone in missteps, of course. but again, bill, as we stand now, a year since covid took hold and looking ahead to probably many more months of health crisis, experts agree a built of a head start at the beginning could have helped get a handle on this disease. >> bill: i bet. thanks, greg. so who is the first to get the

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keep them as safe as possible. >> bill: so you ordered a dozen ultra cold freezers to store the vaccine in the u.s. and around the world. how will that work? >> yes. so we've gotten people to prepare the vaccine and distribute it. we've been ininvolved in many difference efforts despite the pandemic. we've been collaborating with the state of michigan, our incubators. so the ability to actually get out in to the field and bring the tersing people here, this will be really no different but more challenging given the environment and transporting the vaccine. our goal is to make sure it's available as soon as possible. >> bill: the freezer keeps it how cold? is it 70 below, i believe? what is that? >> yeah, various temperatures

for the different vaccines. so i think that's really important. so a big part of this whole effort is around making sure that not only are we supporting distribution of the vaccine but we're taking practices at work. we've been involving and using the return of work approach to keep people safe since march. one of the things that we noticed and saw and migrating indoors, the importance of masks. so we -- as a part of our first round of efforts on the pandemic, we invested in mask making machines. so we're on a mission now to get masks out to those that need them the most. we've been able to distribute and donate 40 million masks to date. with a goal of getting 100 million masks to the community in all 50 states through the

first half of next year. >> bill: that's great. which mask is that, jim? >> these are like effectively level 3 surgical masks. three going to help protect individuals and also stop the spread. now, one of the other things we're doing and start producing in december, which child size mask. when you think of getting kids back to school and in that environment, there's other areas that we're looking to try to help mitigate the transmission of the virus. really protect those that need it the most. in this case, it's the folks that are briefly fighting this battle on the front lines. >> bill: i like to hear about that. jim, sorry about the interruption. every company hassed that -- they're left to make decisions like ford is doing right now. what have you heard from others? >> you know, we're collaborating with all of the agencies, the administration, the incontinu g incontinuing -- incoming administration, the governors,

the state of michigan. we're identifying where we can help the most. when you think about distributing ppe, we're leveraging our incredible dealer network across the country as a way to get them out in underserved communities, the folks that don't normally have the access to things like masks. so we're looking for how we can help in any way possible. >> bill: great stuff there. 100 million masks and employees and others. you'll take it further than that. i have good money on you, the folks from detroit. thanks for sharing your story. good luck. >> thanks so much. >> bill: thanks, jim. the covid meeting continues in atlanta for the cdc advisory board. we'll see how they vote and what they vote. when folks will be able to get the vaccine and what sort of timeline we're expecting here. in the meantime, bill barr apparently is at the white house. the covid meeting for task force that was expected about an hour ago. a lot moving at the moment.

keep it here. we're here monday through friday at 3:00 eastern. never miss a report and set the dvr. the stock market likes what it's hearing thus far. news out of wilmington, delaware. we covered that earlier. neil will pick up the baton on that. >> neil: thank you. looking live outside cdc headquarters in atlanta. we're expecting the results of the vote on who will be first in line for vaccines that are coming down the pike. how they will decide that. health workers get it first, multiple members of the population, the elderly and a mix. could set the stage for how vaccines in general are treated and who gets them and when. whether it goes even beyond this country. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. this is "your world." we get more