are all behind this effort to do it right. >> neil: thank you, sir. former fda commissioner, mark mcclellan. who gets what and when. ♪ >> greg: hi. i'm great gusto with katie, the woman her gets her -- dana perino, the "the five." his musical bear with me because this requires an explanation. you may not know him but he is biggest joke. the time calls him op ed. he claims that biden will be "the first modern president trying to govern in the face of an opposition that refuses to accept his legitimacy." good one. biden is about as moderate as a

poodle skirt and the current president has had to fight for n opposition of the elite, often using a very familiar word. the president apparently doesn't recall any of this. >> he knows he's an illegitimate president. he knows. he knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out. before she is not alone. remember this clown? >> he was legally elected. weighing in on the election. frankly the fbi is weighing in on the election. i think this makes his election illegitimate. >> greg: i wonder how joe feels about this. >> he is an illegitimate president. [cheers and applause] >> i absolutely agree. >> greg: yes he does. but who could forget those who boycott of the inauguration which was meant to underscore

the illegitimacy. and vendor is his own tweet questioning his legitimacy and that is one of many. so how does he forget all of that? maybe after using every single hoax and racial smear against trump and his supporters, he erases all memory of it, maybe with help from these guys. >> we call it the neutralizer. >> thank you, agent k. ladies and gentlemen, if you will, look right here. >> greg: that's my explanation. perhaps in order to maintain a comical delusion so well-documented, their only recourse is denial. it never happened. he is lucky that his employer will indulge his madness and their constant drumbeat of illegitimacy created a moral imperative for trump's removal by any means necessary. 25th amendment impeachment, election fraud. this is why america sees the media for what they are.

what's the word? oh, yeah, illegitimate. so dana, is it a preserv prereqe for the media to forget everything you've ever done customer because i if you did, u would be a hypocrite. how did the editors not see this? but then they did a secret at it. >> dana: that's right. they went in and they tried to fix it a little bit because they were realizing that it's preposterous to not remember this. the simple act of google searches would have shown that. if you remember, president trump was also dealing with impeachment for dell might be for his own and the other thing is the resistance. look, i know that he believes that he was always -- there were terrible.

and then after the recount in -- people were saying that he wasn't legitimate either. so, there is some precedents for this. everyone said, do not help the president. do not work with him. don't even help him with the covid relief bill that americans really need right now. the other thing i would mention is there is a push to say that republicans should just get behind joe biden. let me give you this example. president trump has 128 nomine nominees. the democrats asked for a vote. basically that meant, we are going to delay it, delighted, delighted. all of them ended up with 90 volts or more. under obama, only 12. think about that, the scale of it. under obama, it was 12. so, when they said there was

obstructionism in the obama years, i get it. but it's much worse for trump. >> greg: it's enough to make you want to swear, doesn't it, dana. >> dana: i am on my best behavior. >> greg: [laughs] >> dana: thank you for having me back. >> greg: so, jesse, what are your thoughts on this blockbuster monologue? before you know why you don't fact-checking democrats customer >> greg: why? >> jesse: i wanted to add to your well-researched monologue, in just 15 minutes, i found other people that found trump illegitimate. congresswoman barbara lee. that was only in 15 minutes. my assistant wasn't here. i would have found a lot more but i actually had to research it myself. the title of the column was intriguing to me. how will bite and deal republican sabotage? okay, juan, let's make a deal.

want to make a deal? all the things that democrats did to donald trump, you defended. you said that they were perfectly legitimate. so therefore, all the things that republicans can do to biden, equally defensible if they do the same thing. so, they can impeach him in an election year. they can leak anonymous fake news quotes. they can have prosecutors investigate his charity, his family business. they can boycott his inauguration. they can do all of these horribly ugly things that they did to donald trump. they can just do them to joe biden and that would be perfectly fair under this. we have a deal? >> juan: we have no deal. >> jesse: but on the fall of those things, why can those things not be done against biden? >> juan: there is no precursor. >> jesse: here is the precursor it's china.

>> juan: i see. >> jesse: you watched all of the hearings of the fraud allegation. you don't like there is more than enough to go on at this point. >> greg: i hope that his language is -- use it. that was a blank load right there. >> juan: have got to tell you, i'm listening to this conversation and i'm thinking, what about ? whataboutism is a trick to use when you don't want to talk about the real issue. what about the democrats, when they said this. with regard to what? what you don't want to address the real issue. and to me, the real issue is that trump keeps claiming that this election is somehow illegitimate and fraudulent, that something was wrong with this election when he has no evidence of it. and today, today the attorney general, bill barr came out and said there is nothing

wrong. we have no evidence of any fraud, misconduct that would change the outcome of this election. this is what -- let me finish. so, this is what bill barr, the attorney general, who is a total trump loyalist said today. now, trump is also attacking georgia governor ducey of arizona just because they said we have legitimate reelections and you lost, donald trump. >> greg: they are criticizing him. >> juan: correct. he is attacking them. and you know what? this is dangerous. this one aboutism is dangerous. >> greg: under trump. >> juan: democracy under the russians. but i'm just saying. did the russians help joe biden? you want to ignore certain things.

speaker democrats don't want to talk about, don't want republicans to engage in whataboutism because it reminds them of all the things they've been doing for 4 years. there are these grassroots political movements that oppose the current occupants of the white house. we saw that under president obama with the tea party. we saw that immediately when he took office with the women's march, et cetera. but the other problem we see which we did not see in previous administrations is the weaponization of government against a political campaign. that is what this is about. it's not just about him opposing trump's agenda. whether was the fbi. and today, the other news with bill barr is that he has now upgraded the investigation to a special counsel investigation because he think it's so important to look at the weaponization of government that it should extend into another

administration and protect him from being fired. now, wha whataboutism for someoe like joe biden or all of these democrats who demand that president trump protect -- that is to be seen. but the issues against trump were far more serious in terms of not just basic political opposition. it was embedded ingrained opposition through different government agencies and that was a problem. and people broke the law, by the way. >> greg: whataboutism is actually a viable debate. [laughter] >> juan: it's a real issue. >> greg: coming up next, joe biden rolling out a progressive plan for the economy and unveiling a controversy. ♪ research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia.

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with american ingenuity and american jobs. >> juan: president-elect biden also talking about the diversity of the administration. she would be the first woman head of treasury. >> she will be the first woman to hold this office. you might have to ask miranda who wrote the musical about the secretary of treasury hamilton to write another one. >> juan: biden also introducing -- she is facing criticism from both right and left for past comments she made about republicans as well as bernie sanders. i'll just see, you know, i find it ironic. you have republican senators for the last four years who have nothing to say about donald trump's tweets. all of a sudden they are experts on tweeting and they say, oh, he tweets. we don't like her. >> juan: she is boring to me.

they called her contribution i don't think she's going to get confirmed, so onto the next one. wow. did she really light up the ro room. my goodness. listen, the only job he has ever created has been for hunter. his whole career he was a senate judiciary committee. he's going to be like a junior member of his economic team. one of these people want to do? the last time he was in charge, it was the slowest recovery since the great depression. barack obama put him in charge of the stimulus. where were the shovel-ready jobs? they never appeared. they just need to focus on two things. wages. last year in 2019, $5,000 average wage. the best in u.s. history. they've got to keep that up. and this covid situation. all of the democrat blue state

governors who are dragging this recovery slower and they need to get in gear and get these stupid regulations out so the rest of the economy can roar back. >> juan: all right, so dana, i was thinking, you know that saying come it's pretty much a cliche. elections have consequences. but one of the consequences is that the president gets to choose the cabinet. >> dana: it was like, okay, we know all these people. they are all from the obama administration. and i understand that. he knows these people. he has done it well for a long time. i don't think the problem for her is going to be tweets at all. i think it's going to be qualifications. she ran american -- it's a far left advocates see organization. it's really technical. i just don't think that when the

senator's start questioning her about those skills, that she will be able to say that she matches that. maybe i'm wrong. who knows. i could be wrong. but i will say that senator lindsey graham made a really good decision to not take her on in terms of tweets come about to turn her nomination into something to rally people to turn out to a georgia senate run out. this is why it was so important that republicans are able to get the senate, so we can make sure that we have a say when it comes to who is going to be in charge of things like the offense of management. >> juan: so, greg, she is also getting fire from bernie sanders on the left, populist, right? but then sarah brown, a senator from ohio who is, i think probably the most liberal in the senate said, no, she is great. what you think? >> greg: i don't know what she believes anymore. i'm just so shocked by his beliefs. she is obviously a problem and the big problem here is how she

views women, right? >> juan: i missed that. >> greg: to be named and anonymous harassment victim in an all staff meeting? where is the metoo movement on all this? they would show up in handmade costumes weeping at the capitol. they are going to be very quiet about this. i think you play down her role in the hoax. she tried to undermine the democracy, the republic. our country with that hoax. she tried to create an illegitimate presidency and that doesn't stand. she should not be put forth. nobody is saying he can't make his case but we can point out that she is terrible terrible. i'm going to use exactly the same weaponry. i'm going to call her a misogynist. i'm going to undermine their qualifications. i am going to call them

illegitimate. everything that they did for four years. i found out also that she punched a guy in the face. she did. [laughter] >> dana: she said, "i didn't punch him. i slugged him." [laughter] >> juan: you guys are back to your obama posture. katie, i noticed today, so he announces, wall street, very happy. >> katie: of course they are. >> juan: the labor leaders, they are thrilled. >> katie: of course they are. >> juan: what is going on here? what is all of this republican opposition? >> katie: they love joe biden. a lot of his donations were from wall street guys. they said he was not the fifth avenue candidate. unions have been notoriously -- they love big government because they reap the benefits of taxpayer money. when you look at what dominick

the pitch that joe biden is putting up, it's just a fundamey different way of looking at what the role of government is. republicans believe that government should be there to listen and to partner to allow them to thrive here today, you have joe biden saying that help is on the way. the government is here to save you. the center for american progress is a very far left organization. when you have bernie sanders attacking her as not being far left enough, that's a pretty divide their when it comes to democrats. they are all pretty far left. >> juan: i think they are left of center but far left, i would never have said that. coming up next, dr. fauci taking heat as critics accused him of flip-flopping on reopening schools. next on "the five." ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪

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♪ >> jesse: prominent leaders getting called out after the lockdown had a devastating impact on schools and businesses. senator rand paul about anthony dr. fauci. >> the danger of centralizing power to one person in washington. when one person is so wrong as dr. fauci has been, it has grave effects for millions of schoolchildren. the evidence has been clear for six months, evidence from entire countries in europe and in asia that schools do not lead to a surge, that kids are poor transmitters of this. >> jesse: while states push new covid left on some republicans are blasting democrats were dragging their feet on dragon a new deal. who do you

think would win? fauci rand paul? they are both kind of wiry. >> jesse: scrappy. >> greg: you are very scrappy. i want to point out something i find very strange. this whole idea of voting who gets the vaccine. it's like there was like a council of elders from "planet of the apes." i mean, why can't you just figure this out? do you need a vote? obviously health care workers and elderly on the front lines. why do bureaucrats have to label on all the stupid -- scientists provisional, it changes. there is no such thing as -- we were sold that lie with climate change. everything changes. that's the whole point of the scientific method. so americans are justified in

being -- at experts. they do not go to weddings. they couldn't see their loved ones when their loved ones passed away. they couldn't go to work. they lost their jobs. they still did the very best they could. yet, they are still being treated like sheep who must be poked and prodded to do the right thing. there a certain amount of arrogance there that i think people are now exhausted from and they are tired of it. >> jesse: you just made a great point and i want the audience to listen to this. think about the settled science. we had settled science and it changed. so why can't that be the same thing with global warming? why can't that science change? >> greg: it is. the models are always changing. >> jesse: exactly, juan. >> juan: yet, but we have climate change. >> jesse: mitch mcconnell blasting nancy pelosi. >> speaker of the house the entire summer, and entire autumn

literally gambling with the health and welfare of th the american people. they didn't get any more relief before the election. her party with the majority of the house and democrats could continue to remake all of society along far left lines in exchange for -- but they are all or nothing. >> jesse: yeah, they blew it. >> dana: well, i still have hopes that the congress will do the right thing and do this before christmas because the economy really needs it. people need this relief. i would urge you to not go home for the holidays without getting this done, especially if the warnings are that the winter could be tough for the next few weeks until this gets underway. the house this week is meeting. you know what they are voting on? climatprivate ownership of liond

tigers and legalizing marijuana. >> greg: finally i can get high with my tiger. [laughter] >> dana: lions and tigers are going to have to -- >> katie: you know who's pushing lions and tigers? >> jesse: i want to let you guys know about something. the cdc panel just voted on which americans will get the virus vaccine first. >> greg: me! >> jesse: for the initial phase of the distribution, for health care personnel and residents with long term care facility should be given access first. that makes sense, juan, right? >> juan: yeah. >> jesse: and cable news source. >> juan: i can't say much on this, but i wish our company would do more. [laughter] the reason they had to make some judgments comes to something that you said that i just thoroughly agree with. there is an issue with this virus. it's called a novel virus because it's new.

we are learning, the scientists, everybody is learning about it. and so they have to at times make mistakes so they learn. so, this to me with regard to the decision about where the vaccine should go, a lot of the elderly, in fact, don't respond well. so the question was, are you giving it to people who won't benefit upfront? you definitely should give it to the people who are providing care. >> dana: give it to the spreaders. >> juan: you don't want to give it to people who are spreading or you do want to give it to -- >> dana: people ages of 18-35. >> juan: that's why you have some controversy. but again, i think you hit it on the head. you've got to follow the scien science. it's not about left and right. it's about following the science and then sometimes it hits a bump. you want to believe in those guys more than you want to -- >> katie: but science is also about debate and experts like

dr. fauci haven't explained why things have changed. so they come out and make this expert opinion, which everybody says we should believe because they are experts. and then there is not a great explanation for it. should we be buying masks or wearing masks. they got screamed at saying no, stop wearing masks. stop buying them because they don't work. instead of explaining that we need ppe for front-line workers, they lied to everybody and said that they don't work. and then now we are here nine months later and we have all of these governors mandating masks, citing the experts. i think it really comes back to media. if you ever questioned any of the science of what you were supposed to do, you were hounded as a science denier, someone who wasn't taking it seriously. and really, science is about debate and you are allowed to question these things to get to an answer that actually makes people have some trust. >> jesse: okay, i had former president barack obama attacking

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♪ >> dana: democrats not helping themselves with connecting with the average voter. former president obama revealing a new memoir his true feelings on the 2010 oil spill arguing that the only way to prevent a similar catastrophe is to stop drooling entirely. he writes that at the end of the day, we americans loved our cheap gas and big cars. we only cared about the environment when a disaster was staring us in the face. >> greg: we need cars to go to work and we need electricity t

too. you know, for our electric cars. does not come from coal? >> dana: or fracking. >> greg: we are just really bad. we are not good enough for him. so, i was watching a lot of the michigan state senate committee on oversight on the election stuff and it was pretty chilling because there were a lot of opinions. there is a lot of eyewitness testimony from people that were talking about stories of harassment and agitation as republican observers. they would show up and they would just be abused. and it's like, where does this come from? there's a certain amount of arrogance. republicans don't project arrogance over democrats. they don't tell you to go out and treat people like but the fact is that's where this is coming from. democrat politicians projected arrogance that tells their supporters and voters that they have the moral imperative to treat the opposition like they

are something less than human and you saw that at the polling booths where they were kicking people out. he is dripping with arrogance. and arrogance is the number one problem we are seeing right now with this election and that's why he was such a good politician because he creates a false choice and if you don't agree with the false choice, you are a snob. >> greg: there something wrong with that. >> jesse: they love that. they love agreeing with snobs. they can feel better about themselves. you can have cheap gas, big cars, and like a clean environment too. it doesn't have to be one of the other. under donald trump we had cheaper gas, bigger cars, and a cleaner environment. gas was a dollar less under donald trump and admissions are down under donald trump. and barack obama raised taxes, had $3 trillion a year to play with and couldn't even get the michigan water at flint to clean. so what is he talking about customer at the people who like the clean water the most of the

fishermen, the ranchers, the hue fissures. they are not big-time liberal democrats, okay? we need big cars because we have big families and we need big trucks. i don't have a lot of gear. i don't put anything in a truck but if i did i would put it in a truck. >> dana: also, there's a ton of innovation that's happening. that's american ingenuity and the free market making all that possible. you know, this is just such an elitist thing for him to say. he has a 7,000 square-foot house on the ocean in martha's vineyard and he is going to lecture the average american because they enjoy having cheap gas. so maybe they can put their kids through college instead of spending money on gas. it's not necessarily a political issue. it's a class issue. >> dana: al gore had a similar issue. >> katie: al gore. i mean, the list goes on for forever.

at such an elitist thing to say. like greg says, he projects that it's okay to treat his political enemies this way. it's not that they just projected it. maxine waters going out and saying you should actually go after and mob people when you see them at the store and the streets. so they justify it. and then when they turn around and say please don't lecture me, then you are a racist because president obama -- >> dana: last let's go to juan. >> juan: they wanted to tear apart and then shoot the head of security because he said there was no election fraud. i think that's on the other side. i mean, i think you guys are missing the point here. one, when he is lecturing people about big cars and gas, he's mostly talking to the rich, the people who have the big cars. the second thing that i think you are missing the point, guess what, joe biden won the election and i think in fact obama was a big plus to joe biden in this context. but to me, again, we come back

to the big issue. if you really want to talk about working people and what they need at this moment, it's not an argument over whether or not we should be expanding drilling. no, it's about the stimulus that we talked about on the show earlier, that americans going into this holiday deserve to have democrats have some responsibly. but president trump has said he wants more, and he, the great dealmaker has failed to pressure mitch mcconnell to do something. >> greg: ladies and gentlemen. [laughter] >> juan: this is about mitch mcconnell should stop acting like scrooge. >> dana: all right, "the fastest seven" is up next. ♪ (coughing) hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this new robitussin honey severe. the real honey you love... plus, the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? new robitussin honey severe.

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some restrictions. they are distancing and taking some restrictions but they are just declaring themselves autonomous. >> dana: it's a sanctuary city. don't we all like that? what they did with those businesses. these guys are just picking up everybody else's leaving off. it's only fair. >> jesse: you have the east coast chas and i you have a west coast chads. who will get shot? and who will get rated? i think we all know the answer to that question. >> katie: will this be a winter of love and peace, greg? >> greg: he's doing the right thing. these bars need to do something because they have razor-thin margins. one month closed, you are done. i feel kind of bad for these businesses because they don't get any exemptions. there is no passionate group protesting on their behalf. so i admire this guy for doing

this. other bars should support him. in fact, they should have big bar block party protests. >> jesse: are you going to go have a drink? >> greg: i don't know where staten island is. >> katie: i think it's great what they are trying to do. >> juan: i think this is childish. i think he's trying to wiggle out. he's trying to find a way around the rules. you know what? apply some common sense. we are all in this pandemic. >> katie: would you say the same thing about black lives matter protests? >> juan: if we all actually tried to find out how we can properly help each other in a pandemic, it would be wise instead of playing childish games. a sanctuary city? come on. a sanctuary city does nothing for my health or your health. >> jesse: they are killing people. >> juan: get out of here. >> katie: one of the co-owner said that their message is kind

of autonomous and they are still doing distancing in their establishment and trying to keep everybody safe. finally, the federal government just made fun, little less annoying for some people by striking down plans that would have allowed people to talk on their cell phones during flights. so dana, flights used to be a time to relax, kind of detached and the new got the wi-fi. then people wanted phone calls. i'm for them not having this. >> dana: there's a lot of policies that i like about the trump administration. a lot. but this is my favorite thing. [laughter] by far, that they have done. it will have lasting effects. i am so happy that this decision was made. >> katie: this is like the quiet on the plane. >> juan: today is tuesday? this is the best news of the week. [laughter] i mean, come on. could you imagine sitting next to somebody yammering on their

phone? >> katie: greg, your thoughts? >> greg: i don't think it has to be all or nothing. all the sudden they announce, hey, you've got 5 minutes to make a phone call. if you are like me where you need your driver to meet you right at the plane. [laughter] usually when i get off the plane, the fans know ahead of time that i have to fight my way through. so it helps me to get on the phone and say, look, i will be wearing the fedora, blah, blah, blah. >> katie: jesse. >> jesse: greg is wrong. i am with dana. i am all in here. [laughter] >> katie: i think we all are. all right, "one more thing" up next. ♪ research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back.

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>> greg: "one more thing," dana perino. >> dana: didn't get fired yet. i want to talk about technology. this is very cool, google unveiled a program called "project guidelines" and to give the blind person and ability to follow a path without assistance to walk or run without anybody guiding you are a guide dog. it is in a developmental stage, but they work with a couple of folks to, you know see how it went for them. take a listen. >> i think flying freely. freeing is the word i would describe it as. as i walked down the street and i felt safe. >> greg: >> dana: technology amazing. >> greg: jesse. >> jesse: this milwaukee meant that more than he bargained for when a suspect stole his tire

and left him with a frozen turkey. [laughter] listen to what the victim had to say. >> i've never seen anything like this before. i have heard of people putting bricks, but i've never heard of a turkey on your knee. you could have gave a turkey to somebody that really needed it. >> jesse: everything in milwaukee, elections, wheels. >> greg: you know there is a story, they know each other. that was a message. i will leave a fish on your doorstep but a fish under your wheel, that will happen tomorrow. [laughter] all right. >> juan: sometimes people can be so wonderful. in this holiday season i want to tell you about emily and billy. look at the happy couple who got married in chicago hall in october. they have been engaged since 2019. they began to plan a big wedding but of course due to the virus, they had to first make some changes. they tried to have a smaller

wedding. they change the date and canceled it altogether. that is how they ended up in city hall. what to do with a $5,000 deposit for catering? they decided to put on a thanksgiving feast for a mental health facility called "thresholds." it can be difficult for bipolar people schizophrenia, both healthy, both employee decided you know what we will give meals to 200 people. talk about making lemonade out of lemons. what a joyful, wonderful way to start married life by giving a gift to others. >> that is amazing, good for them. >> greg: all right, greg's dishwashing tips. never put wine glasses and the dishwasher because too thin and break. try to get all the food off before you put it in there because it stinks up the dishwasher. also tried to go with the flow of the dividers and also, don't let your wombat load.

because this little fella here, he doesn't understand the most basic and this is obviously from australia. only in australia where wombats allowed in the kitchen to do the dishes. b5 isn't wombat a rodent? >> greg: yes, it is. and australia has weird animals. don't get me wrong, i love australia but they do have the weirdest animals. they migrate to other countries so when you go there they have giant rodents. >> dana: and the ducks don't like it. >> greg: who can forget that. >> dana: and kangaroos, too. >> katie: the pandemic has been hard for a lot of people but this guy the perfect support to get through the pandemic, a jays rescue cat, any chance to snuggle up to his arm. the rescue with a walk down in july and he will be snuggling up to his dad's arm. he's been snuggly ever since he was adopted and rescued. i think there may have been a mixup at the shelter because this cat is behaving more like a dog and is a little bit confus

confused. >> greg: can it do dishes? >> katie: it cannot do dishes. tipton. [laughter] >> greg: i would have made a musical joke. >> jesse: you would have. >> greg: that is it for us, "special report" is up next, hello bret. >> bret: salty, day and under control tonight, thank you. i am bret baier and tonight calling two big stories. we are learning details how the government plans to distribute the coronavirus vaccine once it is approved and expected to be approved in days. we are also getting information tonight on a big change coming in the quarantine guidelines from the cdc. we will explain all of that with complete coverage shortly. but we began with the statement from the attorney general. the president's attorney general saying he nor the department of justice have seen evidence of widespread voter fraud that "could have affected a different outcome in the election."