brings us his exclusive interview with the commander-in-chief donald trump at the army-navy game which is today. will: we'll do this hannity style. rachel? boom. nailed it. pete: rachel we'll see you tomorrow too. have a great saturday. neil: are you ready for your pandemic vaccine? it's a-coming. we are already getting word that by the end of today up to 3 million doses could be released to governors by the end of sunday, maybe as many as 6 million doses, and on and on we go, welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto, happy saturday to you we've got a busy two hours for you beginning first and foremost with really the biggest health news in the land that the united states joins at least three other countries now in getting a vaccine out to the public, and it's going to be a pretty rapid fashion too. in fact, not only is this the earliest approval of a vaccine to deal with the

pandemic in human history. it is also going to be the most quickly-launched and into the public's hands, and arms, in the weeks and months ahead and an aggressive timetable that pfizer says is imminently doable and the administration says is going to be done, or else. let's get the read from lucas tomlinson at fda headquarters in silver spring, maryland. lucas what's the timeline on this? reporter: neil as you mentioned it's going to be very aggressive in fact top officials just concluded a press conference at the fda where they said they were not under any pressure from the white house to approve this new vaccine and they said it was the urgency of the mission that guided them. president trump touting this record-setting achievement from the white house last night. president trump: today's achievement is a reminder of america's unlimited potential when we have the will and the courage to pursue ambitious goals. as i've said at the beginning,

we will vanquish the virus and return life back to normal. the pandemic may have begun in china, but we are ending it right here, in america. reporter: as you mentioned, neil of the 6 million doses of the vaccine will be distributed across the country beginning this weekend. ups is leading operations in the east, fedex in the west. the first shots could be given to people as early as monday. doctors and thursdays as well as the elderly are expected to be top priorities. the head of hhs said in a tweet , "vaccines will help bring this pandemic to an end which is all the more reason to double down on the public health measures we need to stay safe in the coming months like social distancing and washing hands. " operation warp speed officials want to get all americans vaccinated by june while the cdc provided a guide to whom should get the vaccine first state governments will ultimately make those decisions the head of pfizer said getting emergency use approval so quickly from the fda was a team effort. >> together with other vaccine manufactures, this collaboration is expected to deliver hundreds

of millions of doses to americans by the end of next year. reporter: it took over two decades to get a polio vaccine approved, neil. this new coronavirus vaccine in less than a year, neil. quite an achievement. neil: absolutely amazing. lucas thank you very much my friend lucas tomlinson following those developments and when we get more details about the exact rollout of who gets what and when it is really dependent on the state and needs and the percentage of elderly or vulnerable population and it gets kind of in the weeds but somebody that can help straighten this out as far as protocol is dr. tom price, the former health and human services secretary, former georgia congressman as well. doctor, it's always good to have you, joining us on the phone. i'd be curious -- >> good to be with you. neil: what you'd make of how the rollout will go and how governors ultimately decide who gets it and when. >> well the infrastructure in the state is absolutely vital so

some states will do this better than others there's no doubt about it and there will be some hiccups and it's important for people to appreciate that, but as you all mentioned, there will be 2.9 million doses over the next week, and likely 20 million doses across the country by the end of the year, and then, we'll see how those supply chain work and then how the infrastructure within the states work, but this is absolutely historic. it needs to be celebrated and people need to be really proud of what the united states has done. neil: there were reports, doctor , that the president had threatened to fire the fda chief if the vaccine was not approved late last night. it was. do you think there's any connection? >> i don't think so. i think the fda was ready. once the advisory committee made their recommendation in that vote 17-4 on thursday, they were ready to go, and so it doesn't surprise me that they made the

approval for emergency use authorization yesterday, and these vaccines have been staged, as you know, they are already at staging sites across the country and that's why they can get it out so quickly, but if the fda felt that it wasn't safe and effective to be able to use then i don't think that they would have approved it and remember that the fda owns their own guidelines early on said that if it was 50% effective they would approve it, but this is 95% effective, so this is really remarkable. neil: you know, you can help me out with something the fda released in a statement on all of this that we think quoting here, doctor, the known and potential benefits that we're talking about the vaccine out weigh the known potential risks in 16-18-year-olds. i was not aware there were such risks, let alone for 16- 18-year-olds do you know what that's about? >> well, there haven't been

significant tests in some sector s of the population, pregnant women, for example,, folks under the age of 16, but i'm not aware of any particular challenge between 16 and 18-year-olds other than the likelihood that they don't, they aren't able to develop an immune response that one would like to see. neil: you know, i'd be remiss if i didn't mention that yesterday the supreme court decided not to hear this texas motion, to toss out votes in four key states like pennsylvania, georgia, michigan and wisconsin. the president was upset about it but it did seem to pretty much put the kabosh on any challenge to joe biden taking office on january 20. would you agree with that? >> i think so. i mean, joe biden is the president-elect of the united states and the electoral college is going to make that official on monday, i guess, and then, the transition will continue, and it's important that we not

skip a beat from a vaccine standpoint, and from a covid-19 standpoint, so that we continue to get these vaccines out across the country so that more and more individuals are able to receive it, and then decrease the likelihood that 2021 looks like 2020. neil: you know, more than 100 of your former house colleagues signed on to this legal challenge. i'm just wondering how this all sorts out and whether you hear now more republicans say what you just did that joe biden is the now duly-elected president of the united states come january 20. >> well that's as the days move on, then other events will take the floor in terms of what's going to run on the front page, so i think that this is a short-term story right now, but i don't think there's going to be anything that's going to stand in the way of january 20

moving in the direction that we all see it at this point. neil: you know, if you had to advise joe biden and his own healthcare task force dealing with this with the spike in cases in this country, with so many cities and states re imposing fairly sweeping restrictions including in the new york metropolitan area, where they're closing restaurants and indoor dining, what would you tell them? >> well, again, this is a public health challenge and crisis that we have and so you've got to let local official s in the public health arena determine what happens locally. it ought not be a federal solution from a public health standpoint, but there continues to need to be a huge amount of education on the incredible importance of physical distancing, of wearing a mask of washing your hands, if you're feeling ill you ought to stay home from work or any activity. we have it within ourselves to be able to mitigate and decrease

the transmission of this disease until we're able, certainly, until we're able to have the vaccine be administered to the number of folks that it needs to be to develop the immunity in our society that's needed so that this doesn't continue to challenge our economy and our way of life. neil: dr. price, former secretary of health and human services for president trump, thank you, sir. good health to you and your family as well. >> thanks, take care. neil: i want to go to chris vida , right now the dry ice depot owner and keep in mind these drugs and moderna drugs expected for approval next week they got to be really really cold, super cold and his company comes in very handy to address that need. he joins us right now. chris, thank you for taking the time. explain how this works. i mean, you've got a lot of doses to get out there. that is the government does now, and they've got to be super cold throughout the process here for

eventual injection. how do you do that? >> hi, neil. yeah, well there's still the questions of when, where and how much is going to be needed out here. it's up in the air. people don't really know until they know how many doses they're going to be getting. now if i were to track it on the amount of test vials that was done in a lot of laboratories we do business with it's approximately like five pounds of dry ice per vial every two days. neil: wow. >> yeah, dry ice is not a pair, it is a perishable product, and you know, in 24 hours, 10 pounds will be gone and it'll transfer back to its original state, so it's anybody's guess how much you need. all we can do on our end is to be prepared. we're going to have about 80,00y morning for anybody in new jersey that needs it, that's already listed as a customer

with us. neil: so 80,000 pounds sounds like a lot but again you can go through that fairly fairly quickly and i'm just wondering is this , is the contract you've signed with new jersey and elsewhere, do they build this in over days and weeks to keep up with the increasing release of doses of this vaccine? >> it's up in the air. nobody has given, they're not going to know until they get their supply in and they see the type of container that it's stored in and how much ice is going to be needed to replenish that amount. now there is going to be temperature control trackers in each one, which allows them to say when the temperature is starting to rise that they are going to have to add more dry ice, so, i was told that 1,000 doses should fit in about a shoe box so it's not as voluminous as some people would think. so if that's the case, then you're going to have to see the

container it came in, which i'm sure is a high-quality storage insulated container, and then probably let's say it came with 50 pounds. you'd probably have to replenish that every two or three days. neil: got it. >> it's really up in the air. all i can say is you have to be prepared, and i feel that we are with the customers that we have on board that we're going to be taking care of. if they need it, it's here, and we're ready to roll. we actually have additional delivery service. neil: good for you. a lot of people are warming up to all your dry ice. so we'll see what happens, i just played on those words there it's the benefits of cable and what we do. chris very good seeing you, be well and enjoy your holiday. thank you very much. neil: so you realize logistic ally what they have to do. there's a lot to this not only getting it from the manufacturer but keeping it cold, getting it in the right hands making sure the containers are fine because you can easily screw this up if

you're not careful but no one anticipates anyone to screw this up in the meantime, what's going on with all these restaurants that are being told to close down yet again, in new york and in the new york city metropolitan region it's affect ing virtually every restaurant. no indoor dining beginning monday and in cities like baltimore no indoor or outdoor dining beginning like now. that's why these guys are waiting from washington on stimulus. they need it, now more than ever , but neither stimulus nor relief seems to be forthcoming. what's going on? after this. ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa

neil: all right, i want to take you to washington d.c., of course the white house but there will be a demonstration in favor of the president, a maga march if you will, they're calling it a stop the steal rally in washington today, to protest the supreme court's decision not to take up the texas suit that would have thrown out votes in

four key states and wiped out 39 million votes that had gone to joe biden and/or the president and changing the equation mightily but the supreme court ended up not taking that matter up all but dooming the president's chance to stay another four years in the white house. the president himself tweeted a few minutes ago that he will be seeing stop the steal marchers in washington later today. we don't know what time but in the past when there had been rallies like this particularly in washington, he is driven by them en route to golfing or something else although we'll keep you posted as is mark meredith right now on what the legal options are with the president if any, right now, mark is is at the white house. reporter: neil good morning to you as you mentioned the white house getting the news last night that the supreme court rejecting texas' lawsuit challenging the results in those four states which included georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin and still the president's legal team says they will continue to fight.

the president himself has been talking a lot about this on twitter all morning long and he has hashly-critical words for the supreme court and he's also been talking a lot about what's going on with his attorney general bill barr after it was reported that bill barr knew about investigations into hunter biden and that president trump is basically been saying why is this information not come out before the election. we'll see if it has any impact on bill barr's standing on the president but also the president tweeting i want to mention he said we have just begun to fight. that's in regards to the legal challenges. we heard from the president's top election lawyer rudy giuliani about an hour ago on fox & friends and he made it clear that they still feel like they have a chance to contest some of these results elsewhere, but the supreme court also making it clear, overnight, neil that they don't see this texas lawsuit to challenge those results in four states is something that be considered at all. as for the president you mentioned about that event that's happening, the so-called stop the steal event in d.c. right now, it was not on the president's schedule for him to do any sort of appearance or anything like that. at 12:15 he's supposed to take marine one out to andrews to

make your way up to new york for the army-navy football game, so it's possible while he's flying over he could do something but we have no indication that he'll be doing anything before then, but things change here last minute, as you can imagine a live look here right outside the white house this is about two or three blocks away, it looks like off pennsylvania avenue northwest and you can see the people that are out here. a lot of security around the white house complex this morning as well for the roadblocks that we'll see what the crowds are like a little bit later on today , neil? neil: mark, do you know now, monday the electoral college meets and presumably will confirm that joe biden has collected the 306 electoral votes more than is necessary to be elected president. would it be at that point the president's legal options would end or does this drag on still longer? >> well i think his legal team made it clear that they still see a way to fight. you're right in terms of most of the legal community saying no the options were already dwindl ing as they were, so it be really hard to see where they

be able to go from here but the president's legal team like rudy giuliani still hoping on an individual state level they will be able to challenge some of these results, but what we just heard again from the supreme court last night made it pretty clear they felt they were not going to accept something like this. neil? neil: thank you, my friend. mark meredith in the middle of all of that want to go to senator bill cassidy the louisiana republican sits on the senate finance committee. do you think it's over, senator, for the president? if this legal challenge is done? >> well, to your reporter's point on the 14th, there will be the electors sitting and casting their votes i think it's the 14th, at which point it does seem to be as if it's over. i will point out that when the president indicated that the general service administration should begin to transition from his administration to a new administration, the president was acknowledging that the votes went to biden's way. that was just a clear acknowledgment and so the legal team, i've learned as long as

you pay attorneys they'll file a lawsuit, but as regards to the viability of that, it seems less likely. neil: this rally in washington, and there have been variations of them as you know senator called stop the steal. obviously the president, is sympathetic and in fact supportive of their cause. do you think that if joe biden is indeed sworn in as expected on january 20 he stole this election? >> no and which gives me confidence is that the supreme court with folks like amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh and others with the preponderance of judges i described apparently have not found any reason to refuse. bill barr, who was appointed by the president and has served the president loyally has not found anything, and i could go down the list including judges appointed by president trump who are members of the federalist society, i'm told, who again have not found these cases that have merit and so if you do an objective sort of analysis of that republican governors in

arizona and georgia, republican secretaries of state and arizona and georgia, you start getting a little bit of comfort that a lot of folks who are conservatives have attested to the results, and that's what we have to look for. by the way, obviously the constitution we're a nation of law is not a people, so at some point we have to be that nation of laws. neil: very good, without getting into the details and i apologize for the tight time to get this answer, senator but do you think we're still going to get covid relief out of this lame duck session of congress? >> we'll see. we're still working. its been reported and it's true that liability hang ups are a big issue. i keep on saying andrew cuomo forced nursing homes to take back patients who were infected with covid. people died. are we going to blame them because cuomo forced them to take in covid-positive patients? that's short of shifting government edict that put people

in harm's way from a legal standpoint. neil: got it. we'll watch it very closely, senator thank you very much, good health to you, stay well. scared us a little bit there when you contracted the virus but in the meantime we are looking at the pros and cons of any sort of hope on stimulus, after this. (announcer) need to lose weight? can't figure out why those diets won't work for you? get golo. golo is the smart weight loss solution that works! go to golo.com where over 1 million people just like yourself have found golo and the answer to a new and better way to lose weight. this is not only a weight loss journey, this is a complete transformation mentally and physically. (announcer) so many people have changed their lives and lost the weight with the help of golo. why shouldn't you? want to lose 60 pounds? how about 100 pounds? you can! and golo will give you the incredibly effective tools to do it. (woman) i have found how healthy and happy life can be.

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neil: all right, joe biden plans to visit georgia the first time as president-elect right now. he'll be doing his best to help those two democratic challengers remember democrats need to win both of those runoff battles to take control of the senate, but keep in mind that he has a little issue to deal with right now, that not everyone in the media is that involved in it and that is that hunter biden tax investigation going on at the justice department. hillary vaughn has the very

latest on what it is up to right now. hillary? reporter: hey, neil. well, president-elect joe biden is reacting for the first time on camera to questions about his son, hunter biden, being under federal criminal investigations for some of his overseas business dealings when facing shouted questions from fox news yesterday. >> did hunter biden commit a crime? have you spoken to your son, mr. president-elect? >> i'm proud of my son. reporter: the biden transition has not reacted to the news that the supreme court rejected the latest election challenge, this time filed by texas. monday the electoral college meets to formally elect biden as the next president and on tuesday, biden will be back on the campaign trail in georgia for the first time since becoming president-elect, trying to help democrats flip two senate seats up for grabs but biden is worried that some progressive ideas might muddy their chances with moderates in georgia so on a leaked call this

week with civil rights leaders biden asked them if he could wait until after the january 5 runoff to pressure his administration on police reform because he says raises like defund the police is how republicans "beat the living hell out of us." neil? neil: all right, hillary thank you very much, hillary in wilmington. mark penn with us democratic pollster, best selling author former clinton advise or , lee quarter republican pollster and she's the one with anything else can keep track of the way people are thinking second-by-second. both geniuses, so let me get your take on what could influence the vote. if it isn't hunter biden or it isn't the president of either candidate or the party luminaries on both sides of the fence who have already visit ed georgia, what could do it? i mean, i think you were reminding me, mark, touched in the past that usually in a runoff election you don't get quite as many voters involved, although this could be different, but your thoughts? >> you don't get as many, usually, but i think this is a totally different election than

we've ever seen before. i think everybody knows what's at stake. i think the people of georgia know what's at stake. i think for the republicans, the biggest obstacle right now is going to be this belief that every vote does not count. the president has been going out over and over and over again talking about voter fraud and talking about how the votes are not accurately counted and so if you're on the fence, are you going to go out and vote if you believe the system is rigged? i know he went down there and he told people to vote as an act of loyalty as an act of support of him but i still think that that's going to cause some problems to the republicans especially in a race this close and i think the democrats are super energized because they know if they win this race, they are going to win all three branches of government and they are going to be able to get a lot done in those two years and so at the end of the day i'm not sure what's going to change except for i think if you can get republicans to believe that their votes are going to count and if this is the election of their lifetime, maybe you'll get them out. neil: what do you think, mark on

that? who is more jazzed to get the vote out? >> oh, i think everybody is pretty well jazzed. i think that there are already large and record numbers of requests for ballots. look i think the big question in a race like this is do you nationalize it? is it about don't give the democrats a blank check and the democrats say let us get our agenda passed or do you localize it and make it about the individuals. are warnock and ossoff too extreme or really the republican candidates just for mitch mcconnell. i think whether or not they get a stimulus bill through is very important to this race, and who has seen us holding it up? pelosi has seen us holding it up before and now mcconnell may be the one who has seen us holding it up. neil: you know, the fact that the state went for joe biden, it was close, despite the republican's protest and the president's own concern, it

did turn blue for the presidential candidate the first time we saw that what since 1992 so i guess, lee, the question for you is whether republicans have an up hill battle here. >> i think the one thing that we did see though, if you look at the voter analysis, is what happened in a lot of these states is the president didn't win as many votes as some of the republicans down ballot and i think there were several people and it's not a huge number it's probably around between 8-10% of people who voted for joe biden, but still wanted republicans down ticket because they wanted to do some kind of balance. i do leave there's a lot of people in this country who do like the idea of a split government because compromise is really the sort of foundation that makes our country great. bottom line though is a lot of people don't leave compromise is possible anymore. do they believe if they are going to have a split ticket we'll get a republicans in the senate? are they going to be able to compromise and get things done? i think that there are a lot of people though, who do want to see some things held back. i think a lot of people are

concerned, especially on the right republicans are concerned about joe biden's tax plan and what that means for them. i think that there are several issues that republicans might go out there and vote like their life depends on it because if this doesn't happen if the republicans lose this they lose all three houses, and as mark said, you know, the democratic senate can get passed as it is and i think there's some concern about that, so i think republicans take that seriously in the state of georgia. neil: real quickly, mark. democrats need both those seats, can they get them? >> can the democrats keep both those seats? they can. i mean, i think that this is going to be an incredibly close race based on the presidential race. i have to think you think down ballot the edge goes to the republicans but if republicans can't figure out how to use mail ballots then they'll lose. neil: interesting, all right guys we'll see what happens. again, democrats will need to win both of the seats to capture control of the united states senate. so we'll watch it very very

closely. also watching the latest company to say california, we are out of here, oracle is leaving silicon valley and heading to the safer tax confines of texas, after this.

neil: all right, we already told you that pfizer's vaccine, the deal with covid-19, has already been approved the fda and it's going to be out in

american's hands pretty quickly. pfizer itself says the vaccine will be rolling out in its kalamazoo facility on sunday morning, i believe they expected to have by late sunday night about 3 million doses out, by monday it could be double that and it will exponentially get bigger day-by-day. keep in mind this is a double- dose drug so when you hear in terms of doses the number of people getting them be half that because it is done in two doses over a roughly three-week span. nevertheless, very big news and big news for the markets too, because as you think about it, the battle back and fourth with the markets has always been of a vaccine which looks promising, versus the spike in cases of the virus itself which looks very very worrysome, and in the new york metropolitan area, they shutdown indoor dining that takes effect on monday and already taken effect in baltimore where they upped the ante saying no indoor or outdoor dining so there's a lot that hangs on getting this vaccine now and everything that goes with it.

rebecca walzer joins us, erin gi bbs, and last but certainly not least, harold ford jr. , the former tennessee congressman, former merril lynch honcho, so i ended with you and i can begin with you. this back and forth on the timing and release of the vaccine, very promising development. i don't care where people are in politics, right? >> without doubt. first of all thanks for having me on and happy holidays, it's an important day for our medical and pharmaceutical, pharma industry it's a great day for the country. i hope that we can figure out ways to ramp this up even more and get more frontline workers, more frontline hospital workers and those who have made life bearable over the last nine months for all of us hope that they get it first. neil: you know, erin, i'm looking at the rollout plans they're aggressive. got to be but we're a big country of 15 million people to get that all out even under the most optimistic scenario it

takes some time and in the meantime you've got these cases speaking. how does the street digest all of that? >> so wall street essentially is looking six to 12 months out. we're always looking farther ahead, so we're assuming that most of the people are vaccinated within six months and we start reopening businesses full-scale, within about the third quarter. already, we're expecting businesses to be growing very profitable over this year, but obviously, this year is such a washout, that you should expect great growth but really resuming your old patterns in the third and fourth quarter. neil: if i could switch gears a little bit with you, rebecca, taking a look at the political environment here, it seems fairly safe to say now that donald trump has run out of legal options to stop the clock on a biden presidency, so assuming that takes effect, i want to raise a what if scenario that most people are not counting on. the possibility the democrats take both those georgia seats. unlikely, i think in the

consensus but it does change the likelihood of joe biden absolutely getting to pass this tax increases through. are you worried about that? >> yes, [laughter] as a tax lawyer, neil, who runs a wealth management practice, yes, i am. i am worried about our extreme agenda that would definitely push through taxation, a green new deal, and things that are going to just be very expensive, you know? so it's just something that it seems almost unimaginable right now to me, but very well could happen, and it's a problem and this is why you see companies and people moving with their feet. they are leaving new york, they are leaving california and new jersey and connecticut because there are other states that they could have now with remote work a better lifestyle with lower tax base, as far as taxation we're talking about obviously we can't duplicate california's weather anywhere, but -- neil: well you know, harold on

that point is there a message for democrats here? the latest company to touch on her point to leave california is oracle saying it's going to move from silicon valley to austin, texas. it's the latest and not the last and it's only days after you look at hewlett packard enterprise indicated it was going to stop expanding in san jose and move instead to houston , texas. it is a trend, you think democrats appreciate the magnitude of that? >> without doubt. everyone will have to take note. i think it's important to note there are two things probably driving this. one is a step for texas particularly austin has taken over the years, austin for a long time has been a magnet for tech jobs and big tech companies moving in. they like not only the quality of the tax structure there, the way the tax code is structured and they also like the fact that young people and others want to live there. there's no doubt remote work is contributing but i think this is going to cause every state to rethink the kind of steps they are taking the kind of environment they are creating

and i might add for those talking about the politics of it you probably have to also think there may be democrats in california moving to texas as well but governors alike, mayors alike have to begin to rethink how do you attract jobs and young people and how do you attract companies having to restructure the way a work is done? neil: erin real quickly what i've heard out of governors though is they are looking to hike taxes not looking to cut spending, so they might be compounding the problem. your thoughts? >> yeah, when you look at those forecast budgets they are actually expecting an increase in personal income and corporate tax and when you look at the budgets of states like new york and california, about 75-80% come from corporate and personal taxes, and so using the corporation as a double hit not only do you lose the corporate tax you also lose the personal income revenue, and so in these states are also traditionally blue states, so i think these states really are going to have to take a look at

if we're having massive increases in federal taxes, that these are going to be some of the hardest-hit when we're talking about using not only corporate taxes but as well as that income of those employees and right now, their budgets, if you look at their increase that they are expecting are not there and the only way they are going to be able to meet those budgets are by raising taxes. neil: yeah. all right, we'll watch it closely guys and i'll see you in the next hour in the meantime. thank you very very much in the meantime we did touch on what's happening in the new york area, but not just new york, restaurants forced to close yet again, it could go on a while. once you do hear from a couple of them who have had such a problem they don't know if they could make it a few weeks, after this.

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think that we're stupid, they're economic decisions not human decisions. >> we've been closed the last three weeks so whatever spike is happening is not attributable to the restaurant industry. >> the complete shutdown cannot be our only answer. >> we're not just dealing with the pandemic. we have been under siege this entire year. we're going to die from poverty. we're going to die from depression. we're going to die from suicide if somebody doesn't do something neil: if you don't get out of this , this drags on weeks, then what? >> then i close. i have nothing left in my bank account. neil: the new reality is they're doing it again, closing down restaurants for indoor dining in new york effective on monday and other places like baltimore effective immediately for indoor and outdoor dining and there's no indication how long this could last but from almost every restaurant and bar owner with whom i've been talking over the last week or

so, forget about a few days. you pushed this into a few weeks it's over, done. they're done. they're not going anywhere and it confirms statistics we've gotten out of the national restaurant association that as many as one out of three restaurants in this country talking about the entire country , will close for good if they haven't already, because of the pandemic. a person very very concerned about all of this right now, joins me. erin bellard is a bar owner in new york, very very concerned no doubt, erin about what's going on here. what are you going to do? >> well, you know, we're fighting for every day at this point. rest rant has a very small profit margin so at 25% occupancy we were already losing money being open. we were counting on moving to 50 % so that potentially we can all be breaking even, and now that they're closing us down again, i just don't see how most people are going to make it. neil: the one thing i wondered about, erin, you could help me

with this is say well it's not all a lost cause, delivery is still available and you can dine outside, but its been pretty cold in the new york metropolitan area. that last one doesn't seem like a great option. >> no, i mean, we installed heaters we have pods we have tents outside but the reality is it's going to snow on wednesday and looking at eight inches so the second that happens, we have no ability to generate revenue. neil: so what do you do? >> well, you know, we're working with our landlord. we're applying for every grant that there is but we're feeling very stuck at this point. it really feels like the decision-making is at odds with the numbers. restaurants are responsible for 1.4% of the spread, living room spread is 7 had%, you know, to cuomo, and we're fighting right now because the rest of the state, albany, westchester, suffolk county are between 6-7%, new york is 2.5 and they are closing up and not closing the state so at this

point we're trying to get our voices heard to see if we can combat this. neil: what do you think of the stimulus out of washington you'd love to see that i'm sure. they go back and forth and like typical politicians, they don't get much done, but there is a hope that something could get done. if you don't get help out of washington then what? >> if they close us down completely here, for more than a few weeks, and congress doesn't get it together and get us the stimulus, there is going to be a mass-closing. i don't see how small businesses are going to make it. neil: hang in there, erin. you know, you've got a loyal crowd of patrons who use you and look forward to your surviving all of this so i'm sure you will , but just hang in there. erin bellard, thank you very very much. in the meantime it's a bipartisan hunt on facebook involving almost every attorney general in the united states of america. meet him. one of them, next.

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neil: all right, well democrats and republicans might not all be on the same page when it comes to covid-19 relief, but they appear to be unanimously against facebook and charging that it has simply gotten too big for its britches, some 46 attorneys general at a minimum part of a class action battle against facebook that says it is simply become not only too big but anti-trust problem. the likes of which it has rarely seen or some of these attorneys general have rarely seen certainly in recent history. josh stein joins us right now the north carolina democratic attorney general, who is kind enough to join us on this saturday. attorney general thank you very much for joining us.

>> thank you. neil: what is your number one and primary beef and 45 of your colleagues, about the way facebook does its business? >> yeah, well facebook is a monopoly. they absolutely dominate the social networking site space which we've all come to depend on. i mean, they were massive and incredibly powerful before the pandemic but since we've lived so much of our lives on the internet now it's how we connect with our aunts, uncles, our friends, classmates, all of that, and they've used that massive power which they have as a monopoly to maintain it. they sqelched competition and that hurts consumers so what we want is to see free competition in the social networking site space so that consumers have meaningful choice. neil: so break them up? >> that could be part of it. what we want is for the court to block them, first of all, from

engaging in any anti-competitive behavior going forward, to require facebook to notify the state a.g. before they do more acquisitions, and whatever relief is necessary and that could include divesting lines of business. we'll have to figure all that out as we go forward with the case. neil: technology always changes as you know, sir, and some people are saying the villain you see today could be just the dinosaur tomorrow, and that is just a waste of time what do you say? >> well, i disagree. technology does change all the time, but when somebody grow s and facebook brought all manner of innovation to social networking. when they grow whatever they're bringing to the market if once they become the monopoly they then use that power to keep anyone else from emerging, that's what violates the law. it's not the fact that they're big. it's that they're using their monopoly power to squelch that

competition and degrade the service for consumers and the privacy protection diminished and the fake accounts exploded. neil: got it so the battle goes on i don't mean to jump on you the north carolina attorney general we have put out calls to facebook a number of times, more after this. ...

>> all right. bright and early tomorrow morning, pfizer expects to get its vaccines out of the kalamazoo facility as soon as monday americans could start receiving it. it's up to governors to decide how and who gets the original allocations. generally, we're told it will be for health care workers, older, more vulnerable americans and then the race is on to make sure all 350 million americans, should they so wish it, be armed with this vaccine. keep in mind, another one from moderna expected to get f.d.a.

approval next week and talk of another half dozen that could be available for americans in the world in the weeks and months to come. so, fielders choice. the very latest right now on how the c.d.c. is looking at this with our steve harrigan in atlanta. hey, steve. >> neil, some exciting and fast moving news on that pfizer vaccine. three million doses expected to be out the door almost immediately. 25 million doses by the end of the year and as we mentioned, the first batch likely to go to health care workers as well as people in nursing homes. and president trump touted the historic nature of this achievement. >> our nation has achieved a medical miracle. we've delivered a safe and effective vaccine in just nine months and this is one of the greatest scientific accomplishments in history. it will save millions of lives and soon end the pandemic once and for all. >> some real challenges ahead for distribution. this vaccine has to be kept

extremely cold minus 94 degrees fahrenheit. it will be shipped in dry ice likely to hospitals and those who receive the vaccine will need a booster shot three weeks in. two shots in all. it could be until mid next year before the bulk of the population at the earliest gets the vaccine and remarkable vaccines take years to develop, this one took 11 months, it's 95% effective and as early as next week, a second vaccine also effective, by moderna could get emergency approval. neil, back to you. neil: thank you, steve harrigan in atlanta. and let's go to steve palkot, and it's going forward for this country and the world. the united states is technically the fourth country to allow the distributions of this vaccine. it began with the united kingdom, bahrain, canada and finally the united states, many, many more coming to bat as well. greg, that's the latest?

>> neil, in the past 24 hours, we heard some remarkable claims about the vaccine, just approved by the f.d.a., by somebody who ought to know. they come from the chairman of the german-based firm biontech. remember, biontech is the partner, the research partner with the american drug giant pfizer. the chairman we heard from in a zoom interview conducted on the day of the approval and he says for next year, with this and other vaccines, there is hope. take a listen. >> we know that we have a solution. and we know that we can put many doses and vaccines have shown efficacy and therefore people, we should be confident that they can -- we will be able to control this disease and the pandemic later end of next summer. >> latest by end of next summer.

that's key, neil. sahin says the rollout should be fast and vulnerable lives could be saved very quickly and by april, it's his estimation, his and other vaccines will get america to 30% on the vaccine front, and he says that's when it will really start to make a difference in the broader population. the biontech founder says he's pleased with the rollout that we've been watching this week in the u.k. despite a few allergic reactions and he's confident, also, neil, this is brand new for us, that the pfizer biontech combination can meet the goals of 1.3 billion doses for next year and we heard from him for the first time it could exceed it considerably next year and that's important, too. the hitch though, neil, as we all know is getting enough people to take it with the vaccine skepticism. sahin assured us it was safe and warned even with all cooperation, countries and companies, it might take into the fall of next year to fully eradicate this virus. still, he's a very proud man.

take a listen. >> you can, of course, imagine this is what you want to do because you love science, you love immunology, you love to provide benefit to people, but this is, of course, an extraordinary situation which unimaginable. >> neil, sahin is the son of turkish immigrants to germany. his father worked in cologne at the ford factory there. now, this man is helping to save lives all around the world. incredible story, neil, back to you. neil: it is stunning and there are so many of these kind of stories, greg. thank you very much. greg palkot in london on this. who gets this vaccine and when? because it's not just this vaccine, right? as greg touched on, moderna next week and a host of others, if bill gates is right, keep involved that the gates foundation is actively involved trying to get this out to people all over the world. we could be looking at a half

dozen available treatments as soon as and by spring of next year. and from children's hospital center, the co-chair there vaccine development. doctor, thank you for taking the time on a saturday. how is it that doctors look at a vaccine depending on the base, depending on the vaccine, depending on both? how is it decided? >> in terms of what we'll see in the u.s. i don't think that the vaccine is sufficient for the population. we are going to have four or five to ramp up for the next-- pretty soon. that's exciting we're starting to release our virs vaccines and we'll focus on health care providers and assisted living facilities in the coming weeks and in the coming weeks and we

want to maximize saving lives and stabilize the health care system because the health care workers need to feel protected. so, this is just the early days. we're going to hopefully see the moderna vaccine by next week. hopefully the j and j and the astrazeneca oxford vaccine. we have a protein that we're scaling up in india now and tested across india. so this is an exciting time in vaccine science and one of the things i like to point out is that all of these vaccines work more or less by the same principle. they all work by stimulating an immune response to the spike protein of the virus called virus neutralizing antibodies. the reason i say that is i'm asked doc, which one are you waiting for? and get which one you can, getting the anti-viral antibodies in your system is the best way to assure you

won't have to the hospital or the icu. neil: a number of people have concerns about vaccine, forget about the politicalization of it or oh, it's being rushed for political purposes. the american's particular rhe reticence for vaccine, parents for kids and autism and the rest. it's gotten to the point whether realistic or not that americans have that anti-vaccine mentality. how do you reassure people? what do you do? >> yeah, well, it's a great question. you know, we've discussed this before. i've gone up against the anti-vaccine groups a lot because i have a daughter with autism and i wrote a book called vaccines did not cause rachel's autism and put me in their sights and unfortunately they dominate the internet with 500 websites revved up on all sorts of forms of social media, facebook, you know, if you go to amazon and look at the books on vaccination, they're most

fake anti-vaccine books and covid conspiracy books so we've got a figure out a way to bring this back to some reasonable normality and i think that's going to require two things. one, we need to communicate better about the vaccines. operation warp speed was fabulous in terms of the scientific rigor and integrity of the trials. it never had a plan, mostly left to the pharma ceo's who were not strong communicators and that didn't help. and doing something to watch the counter offensive against these awful anti-vaccine groups. and what we're calling weaponized health communications quote, unquote, out of russia, that the russians are filling our internet with fake anti-vaccine messages and discord. we'll get better at vaccinating

the population, but we will have our hands if you will in 2021. >> the ren why i mentioned it, to add fuel to that sort of paranoid fire on this thing, doctor, you had these cases, a few as i understand, reported for pfizer that those who have severe allergies, i don't know what defines severe allergies, but for whom this might not be ideal. do you know anything about that? is that justified? what? >> well, i think the f.d.a. handled it pretty well. what they're saying now, the only true contraindication for this vaccine, meaning the only ones who should not get the vaccine is if they have an allergy to the specific ingredients in the vaccine and that's-- i like a lot better than what the u.k. did, because we know now that about 50 million americans have allergies to something and it's a huge percentage, and about three to four million americans carry an

epipen. if we excluded those americans we could never get to the point where we could reliably vaccinate a large section of the population. i think the f.d.a. made a good decision about that. again, this is a new technology, there are going to be bumps in the road and this is why it's so important to have that communication because you know, every time there is that bump, the anti-vaccine groups are filing on and making people more and more uncomfortable, and so, this is why communication is almost just as important as getting the vaccine out. >> and there's a concept, communicate. doctor, finally, there were reports that the white house threatened the f.d.a. chief to approve the vaccine by last night or be fired. what do you think of that? >> well, i saw that reported. i know steven hahn, i know pretty well, really, a terrific guy the f.d.a. commissioner. he denies it. so i think what we'll keep it

at that. we've already seen how this vaccine gets so terribly politicized and that in itself has been a problem. so, for instance, the kaiser family foundation with a group called the undefeated, did a survey of the african-american population, and again, half of african-american populations are saying they're not going to get the vaccine. one of the major reasons is the politicalization of the vaccine. they believe that this is being rushed for purposes of political expediency, but i can say with confidence that the f.d.a. has ensured that they really have balanced nicely the fact that there's an urgency to get this vaccine out because we have 3,000 americans dying every day, yet, you know, we've got a great track record of licensing only safe and effective vaccines so trying to use that ua to approximate licensure, it's a careful balancing act and i think that the f.d.a. has really done a good job at that.

neil: doctor, you're always the voice of reason. we appreciate that. you've had little sleep through this, we appreciate that, not for your own health, but for ours. dr., thank you very much we'll be monitoring this. in the meantime, the dust-up over china and spies and eric swalwell, he is saying don't jump to conclusions. unfortunately, he was not saying that when similar charges regarding the president and russia. >> that report says that that the president was not a russia agent. would you say that the president is not a russian agent? on us, on every plan! and if you're 55 and up, switch to our essentials 55 plan and save 50% on your bill vs. the other guys. that's right, iphone 12 on us! holiday on with t-mobile.

transitions light under control. ♪ upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new style colors. transitions. >> if that report says that the president was not a russian agent, congressman, would you say the president is not a russian agent? >> the president acts on russia's behalf, i don't need to see the mueller report for

that. >> you don't care what the report says, you've drawn your own conclusions. all right, well, history has come full circle since that interview i had with the congressman because he is saying now with charges that he had a relationship with a chinese spy, that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. yet, a couple of years ago when it came to the russian investigation he all, but had the president portrayed as a russian agent himself. is it fair? is it balanced? is he being inconsistent? the former assistant attorney general on this. where is this whole thing going? because it does seem to be a double standard here. if you want to give the benefit of the doubt to the congressman, you could quite argue you should have done the same a couple of years ago, but be that as it may, first on this, where is it going? >> well, neil, first, i have to say i agree that how funny is it that things change and now when the shoe is on the other

foot, the congressman and his allies are very hesitant about making the same rush to judgment that many of them made a few years ago. as far as where this is going, i think the first thing we need to do is get the facts on the ground. and that's involving an investigation into exactly the nature, the extent of the contact that this apparent spy had with the congressman, whether or not there were in his office or directed to the spy and whether or not there was access to classified information. that's the first step is to nail down exactly what happened and at that point we can take the appropriate action. neil: all right. one of the-- those who argue for appropriate reaction, to remove him from the house intelligence committee since this is all settled because there's a real risk that he was compromised or might still be. >> well, that's another thing, here, neil. this isn't a situation where we'd be concerned about foreign infiltration into a congressman

who served on a committee overseeing the post office or something like that, not that that's important. but different for a congressman whose day-to-day job involves our nation's most sensitive secrets, counter espionage, heart and soul of what we need to keep secret. and if a spy had access to that information that's exceedingly serious. neil: a lot of people say it's difficult to trace this sort of thing because if you're a good spy you cover your tracks. now, this just slipped up, but what was intriguing to me, tom, was that nancy pelosi, others knew about this contact, this relationship some time ago and yet, ignored it. now, talk about the shoe being on the other foot. they wouldn't have ignored that. >> well, to be sure. as soon as you get any sense there might be the possibility of foreign infiltration or a

sleeper agent being planted in the halls of congress, you have to err on the side of caution. the second you learn about that, red flags go up. you have to put barriers in place, figure out and isolate the contact and figure out what information they may have accessed. it's not something you sleep under the rug or for another day, look, let's take a look at this in six months or a year, no, you have to act immediately to prevent any possibility of our secrets being lost or compromised. neil: legally, what can we do to respond to this? forget about the swalwell case in particular, but the fact that the chinese are levering their way to spy on us in ways that would make the russian thing look like a walk in the park? what do you do legally to get to the bottom of it? a lot of people, especially those who are coming to power in january don't think it's an issue. >> right. well, there are a number of different things you could do. certainly, and obviously, that would depend assuming there is

the state department. we have diplomatic tools, you can remove the chinese nationals from the country. you can put sanctions, you could do all sorts of things. i think another thing you can do on the home front is take steps to ensure that something like this never happens again, whether that means closer vetting, background checks, to people who are trying to work in a congressional office or get access to our secrets, put things in place to make it much more difficult for a foreign agent to get close from the inside and potentially compromise our secrets and our classified information. neil: i can switch gears quickly. as you know, the supreme court opted not to take up this texas suit that was going to disqualify votes in four key battle ground states. the president, not surprisingly is not very happy. forget the politics, is the legal challenge done?

is it over? is joe biden going to be inaugurated president of the united states on january 20th and these people rallying in washington to stop the steal as they call it, is it just a waste of time? >> i think that the legal challenge is done, neil. the president described the challenge as the biggest one of all. this is the one they were banking on and we heard last night, all nine justices to the supreme court said they would not grant texas any relief. seven of the justices said they wouldn't even entertain the complete. justices alito and-- when you get a decision from the supreme court on an issue contentious as the 2020 election. when the court speaks with unanimity, that brings the litigation to an end. neil: all right, tom, thank you very much. be healthy and well, my friend.

tom dupuidupuis. we'll have more after this.

>> ipo, boy, and a year that has more than 140 billion raised at a minimum. we could be closing in on 200 billion dollar year of companies coming to the market to sort of test the appetite for this sort of thing. and it's very, very strong. some say it harkens back to the height of the internet dot-com

boom that in 1999 was looking as the rage until it started going bust around the year 2000. that was then, many bulls say it won't happen right now, but let's get the read on this from rebecca walter, walter wealth management. aaron gibbs, gibbs wealth management and the former congressman and vice-chairman and former morgan stanley, and joined at the money hip, if you will. rebecca, let's talk a little bit about people doing a little bit of deja vu here. some worry they love the strong response, that show strong potential, but worry that it's 1999 all over again. it was a great song for prince, but the year after didn't turn out too well. what did you make of that? >> well, you know, neil, we have to be concerned about the incoming administration. the registry, you know, reforms that we had under trump obviously are going to be tossed by the wayside and i

expect a lot more regulations and a lot more -- a total sea change, i don't want to say lax, but open structures of business and that obviously will have an impact on the ipo market. a lot of these companies are saying, let's hurry up and get this done if possible. obviously, air bnb was huge this week, it was absolutely, what they started with and what they ended with was amazing. so, i think air bnb in and of itself is going to be okay for a while because people aren't necessarily going to want to go to the hotels because of the virus. if you want to, air bnb is the great place to go to get that spot. and it's going to be a sea change and they're racing away to get it done if they can. neil: and one of the companies, doordash has a valuation close to what, $90 billion which is worth more than dunkin' brands,

dominoes and a few or big names combined and those are the establishments from which they deliver. so, i'm just wondering, is something out of whack there? >> it is concerning. when we look at the number of ipo's we're at 400 ipo's for 2020 and it's going to be a record year, if not record breaking. and it is concerning because we do see a massive increase in ipo's, a massive increase in speculative trading. a lot of it comes from platforms like robin hood where it actually encourages trading and encourages speculation rather than giving you warnings when you're on the platforms. and we see more of these platforms. so people are concerned. there absolutely is a valid reason for that and that we see new people coming to market, younger invests and they're using platforms that aren't warning them about the risks of some of these valuations, and

so, yeah, when you look at these ipo's, certainly some of them do seem extraordinarily optimistic. optimistic. >> you know, harold, through argument and both have touched on this, this idea that maybe this is beating joe biden coming into office when he's promised to raise taxes, raise investment taxes. as you point you had out in the past, and that's depends on a republican senate or a democratic senate, i get that. do you think part of this is companies rushing to get this done while the getting is good? >> no. i think a couple of other things. one, if the democrats are successful in georgia, which i think in the previous panel, one of the panelists said that the way that president trump is campaigning there is dividing republicans. if democrats win there, i think what will likely happen you'll see a reempowering of moderates in the senator, including mark warner, joe manchin and maybe

mitt romney. you can't say that these offerings are happen because they're fearful of joe biden being elected president, he's going to be president. number one. neil: wouldn't you want to go ahead and do things in a friendly market environment with the guy you have versus the guy maybe is a question mark? >> the reason these companies-- one of the reasons these companies are worth so much is the reconfigure ration in our economy, all kinds of services and food delivery and software more valuable for reasons that are obvious and frankly terrible in some ways because of what's happened to people. i don't think a change in regulations or fear of that, in fact, i think what was just said and we've got to figure out a way to protect investors going forward and take a harder and more serious look in the country and certainly in congress and the president and think about how do you protect everyday retail investors. neil: all right. guys, thank you all very, very much. i want to take you to washington d.c., stop the steal

rally, that's what they're calling it, they're sympathetic to the president's plight, saying that he won in a landslide and the supreme court denied him an opportunity to hear that case. the president we're told is going to drive by these folks to wish them well and thank them. more after this. in connemara. right! connemara it is! there's one gift the whole family can share this holiday season, their story. give the gift of discovery, with an ancestrydna kit. i waited to get treated. thought surgery was my only option. but then i found out about nonsurgical treatments. it was a total game changer. learn more about the condition at factsonhand.com

>> all right. i want to take you to washington d.c. right now. an maga rally, and it looks like a pretty big one.

it kicks off a little afternoon eastern time, a half hour from now. under the title of "stop the steal" these are supporters of the president who believes he's been robbed of another four years in the white house because joe biden essentially stole the election by some chicanery and at least four to six key battle ground states. now, the supreme court had an opportunity to take up this issue yesterday or at least show a willingness to do so, in a texas suit that would have nullified votes for joe biden in four key battle ground states. it opted not to. that included the three justices appointed to the supreme court by president trump, who did not dissent from that move. griff jenkins in the middle of all of that at the plaza in washington d.c. >> hey, neil, how are you? you know, fox news' most recent poll shows that 77% of trump

voters think it was stolen, and out here 100% think it was stolen and the buses here, the march for trump, the buses started two weeks ago in south florida. they've been making their way here. they're sponsored by a group called women for america first and they're here to have their voices heard, that they do not agree with what happened on election night. you can see also, a couple of different groups out here. this gentleman is with the proud boys. you can see they're gathering there, proud boys are turning out and we don't know whether the president may or may not come. one thing for sure, this crowd is not happy about that supreme court decision which denied the lawsuit that would have possibly overturned the election for president trump. earlier today, i talked to james lyle. he's a program director of this event here today. here is what james lyle had to say. take a listen. >> this is kind of -- a, it's both a celebration and a

peaceful protest. we believe our votes were stolen through an illegal process and we're going to have our voices heard to where we want election integrity. >> as you can see, folks out here are very peaceful and if you look straight up e street, people are already gathering for as long as it goes, a couple of blocks. ultimately the folks here will march over to the supreme court to let their voices be heard there as well, but right now, it's peaceful and certainly will be an exciting moment if the president does indeed make a drive-by. he did last time this sort of event happened. if it does it this time he's certainly going to get a quite strong reception, neil. neil: all right. griff generjenkins. want to go to the chief whip of the congress, dan kildee. thank you for joining us on a saturday. >> thanks, neil. neil: what do you think that

joe biden should say to these people, many of whom said, republicans, who feel that donald trump did in fact win the election? >> well, i think you know, we have to understand and i think, you know, president-elect biden understands that people have strong feelings, but we ultimately have to make these decisions based on facts and so i hope that's what he says to them. he understands they're upset, they're angry, they wanted another outcome. i remember being in the same position myself. it's not fun. but ultimately, what we've seen is republicans and democrats in positions of authority turn back these claims of mass fraud. here in michigan republican legislators, republican board of canvasser members have said they've seen no evidence of what these folks are alleging, ultimately the facts have to rule and i hope that's the message that president-elect biden delivers. neil: indeed. the georgia lt. governor will

be with us in the next segment saying much the same thing. he said that the count was not going to be influenced by all of this, but it has divided the nation and it has obviously brought out these protests and i'm just wondering in a new biden administration whether the two parties can work with each other or in this environment, is it still going to be very polarized. >> i think it will be difficult, but i think it's possible. and i think, actually, what we're seeing today isn't so much the divisions, but the manifestation of a division that's been growing over a number of years and i think we all have to take some responsibility to try to overcome that. you know, i know in congress, i continued to work with my republican colleagues across the aisle. i can't say that it's as easy as it was eight years ago when i arrived in congress, but we continue to try. i have bipartisan legislation on the floor this coming week to deal with some veterans

issues. so this is a situation where i think we all have to realize you might not like the outcome of the election, but as americans, we're still obligated to get the work done and i hope we can, not ignore these tensions, and not ignore the emotion of the moment because i think that's too dismissive of people, but we can't let it decide that we're going to continue to stay divided. neil: dan kildee, thank you very much. the chief deputy whip in the house of representatives. by the way to dan's point of about this not only dividing republicans and democrats, it's dividing republicans with some republicans. meet one who knows it firsthand. the lt. governor of georgia, after this. ♪ ♪ irresistibly smooth chocolate.

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>> all right. we want to take you to georgia right now. and that runoff election for january 5th as you know.

very crucial race is here, if the republican senate incumbents were to lose and the democrats would take control. it's anyone's guess how that would go. early voting begins on monday and lt. governor from the peach street joins me now. great to have you back. >> great to be here. neil: the president is furious, he's furious at the supreme court just like he was furious at you, just like he was furious at your governor, just like he was furious at the georgia secretary of state. if indeed it looks like he's leaving, he's leaving angry. what do you think? >> well, i think anybody looking at the texas lawsuit rationally was not surprised by the supreme court's decision refusing to take up the case. there was no fraud to point to and there was no evidence and that's certainly what myself and the secretary of state and governor have bohn pointing to. and concerning to us here, one of our republicans principles is state's rights to think

about the ramification of another state reaching in is concern. i think this is a huge opportunity for us to pivot right here. for the president to pivot, the republicans pivot. short-term focus on the senate election on january 5th, it's important for us here in georgia and republicans all offer the country. long-term this is a pivot point for us to start our post game analysis, what did we do well in four years and what do we need to improve on in the next four years. neil: and remaining a popular figure in the republican party, no challenger in this case, the losing challenger has ever received no votes at 74-plus million of record just against joe biden, it doesn't apply because he got more. but having said that, the president was very furious at you and the governor and the secretary of state for not doing more to check into and to try to validate signatures and the like and that you led to

this. what do you say to that? >> look, our job is it to follow the letter of the law and that's what we tried to do in georgia every day. and just because the person i voted for donald trump did not win, doesn't change what i do each day or the attorney general or the secretary of state's focus here. so, look,ings this the pivot point. we've got to move forward. it's time to move on, it's time to put democracy and america first and you know, look, january-- >> 12 happening, governor, because the president and supporters have targeted you and the governor and secretary of state, maybe the governor should should be primaried. he's made it clear he's not going to forget what you did or what you didn't do. >> one, it's not helpful for the election on january 5th. look, neil, i'm not going to concern myself with getting reelected if i have the

opportunity to do the right thing. it's certainly not helpful. we need to move on and certainly focus on short-term and long-term goals here. neil: do you think the president's behavior will hurt republicans in the runoff election? >> i think the way he's currently acting, yes, i do think it will hurt us, but we have an opportunity. we've still got some time. let's pivot. lets a he focus 100% of our effort. look, i think there's a legacy that the president is leaving behind. i think that the supreme court is an awesome legacy that my kids are going to be able to benefit from. i think the opportunity how quickly he's brought the vaccine forward is what history will be kind to and a job market that set an all-time low for unemployment. and huge a that we as republicans can champion forward. >> if you runs for 2024, would you back him? >> it's a long time between now and 2024. we're focused at the job at hand, neil. neil: governor, thank you very,

very much. good to see you again, hope you have a wonderful christmas and a year to put it mildly. jeff duncan, lt. governor of the beautiful state of georgia. early runoff in that race starts monday. i know we've been focusing on f.d.a. for the pfizer vaccine. the f.a.a. has approved it also, for the pilots and air traffic controller. so the beat goes on. more after this. it's moving day. and while her friends

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>> all right. the f.d.a. i proves the logistics of getting out that vaccine across the country. easier said than done. i want to dip into u.s. operation warp speed chief,

detailing how it's going to go. let's listen in. >> i'm sorry, your line is open. hi, thanks so much for taking the question. you said that the operation warp speed was withholding second doses and additional 500,000 supply for kind of emergency reserve. what would make the government confident enough in coming out of the manufacturers to change that and potentially distribute more initial doses than, you know, more than half of the kind of doses on hand? >> so, great question. so what we're doing is, we've started manufacturing as early as, you know, june, maybe even a little bit earlier in may as we really started the steps to get us to where we are today. it is a really incredibly ar

arduous process, but it was necessary to start that long ago to be here today. as we start today, availability of vaccine for both pfizer and moderna is why we're able to begin distribution and receipt as early as monday. the reason why we're holding onto the second dose as well as some reserve is that we don't have absolute confidence in the cadence. not because pfizer or moderna or the supporting manufacturers and finishes aren't diligent in their process, but it is such a delicate process. we want to ensure perfection in the vaccine because we don't want anything going into an arm that would be a problem. so, we are being very diligent

and only after the vaccines are approved will i allocate doses accordingly. so, your question though was when do i see that changing, you know, holding second dose, and reserve. first of all, reserve. reserve is about being able to have flexibility, being able to be aguilty and adapt to the situations that occur. things that might happen in distribution, as we go along, execution. so i can immediately get things to where it needs to be so that everybody has fair and equitable execution to the american people. i see reserve dwindling down every day as we move forward. neil: all right, we're continuing to listen to-- they call it the general of logistics to get this vaccine out to the american public. i'm talking about general august perna.

and they should be coming out in droves at least 145 different u.s. sites beginning early monday morning. he's very optimistic about the rollout and then it's up to various states to decide how it's going to be allocated. let's go to dr. mark mcclellen, former f.d.a. commissioner. commissioner, it's good having you. what do you think of this process, what you're hearing about it and getting it out in the days and weeks ahead? >> well, neil, it's been an incredible effort to get to this point, have a vaccine authorized for use in just a matter of months after the pandemic began. but we do have an incredible effort ahead, as general perna was talking about, it's a lot of work to get the vaccines where they need to be all across the country. it's a lot of work to keep these pfizers vaccines in ultra cold storage and it's a lot of work to make sure the right people are vaccinated first and do it in orderly as efficient way as possible. this is going to be a huge task

like no vaccination effort we've seen in this country before. neil: we've given governors the power to decide how they, you know, disperse this. but i guess the general view was, the vulnerable members of the population, obviously, you begin with health care workers that need it the most, older and vulnerable and with respiratory conditions that would make them vulnerable to the virus itself. what do you think of that and how much wiggle room governors will have? >> well, the governors arguing it differently neil, in this very first round, all the vaccines are either going to health care workers, people right on the front line with covid and we need them staffing the hospitals now more than ever and people in nursing homes, the workers and residents. that's been the highest risk part of the pandemic from the beginning. the governors are doing a little differently. some are prioritizing the nursing homes for the first

batch and others are health care workers, after the first round in january, february time frame, that's when more people in other high risk categories, like older individuals, people with serious chronic diseases and other essential workers will start getting vaccinated and we might see more differences there, and stuff, which of those groups, the governors prioritize first in their own states. >> now, we're going to have one likely approved, that is a vaccine by moderna, probably sometime next week and there could be several others into the new year. how will it be handled by doctors deciding which one is best for their parents? >> so far, we don't see any significant differences emerging in terms of the effectiveness and the safety profile for the first few vaccines. pfizers vaccine and the moderna vaccine and coming after that will probably be the vaccine from johnson & johnson, and the vaccine from astrazeneca and those, neil, are not yet

through their big clinical trial so we don't know for sure whether their effectiveness and their safety match up exactly with the first two vaccines. so, that is something that we'll probably find out if the january or so final frame, and there may be some different recommendations emerging then. right now though, i don't think there's any reason to treat one of these two vaccines different than the other. >> all right. dr. mark mcclellen, to his point, it's very, very encouraging to see when all of this started, the idea that we could have a vaccine near months after all of that raised saying something about historical unprecedented history in the making that no one could forsee. but operation warp speed has delivered the foods and will deliver the vaccines to those who most need them. the only question now is whether this disrupts and even

happening in so many american cities and states that are now shutting down indoor dining and worse because of the spikes in cases that are coming, despite a promising vaccine or not. that will do it here, fox news continues. i'll see you monday. . >> the u.s. reached a major milestone in the fight against the covid pandemic, this less than a die day after approval of the vaccine. the race to get the very first person in america vaccinated and that's something we can all talk about today. all track very closely, feel excited about for the first time in many months. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington d.c., i'm gillian turner. it's great to be with everybody at home, leland, nice to be with you. leland: nice to be with you as well. the first person in the u.k. vaccinated this week. and