we thank you very much for being with us tonight. tucker carlson is coming up next. be well, i'll see you tomorrow. good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson" tonight. they call it the week that changed the world. that was richard nixon's description of his visit to china in 1972. nixon was the first american president to engage directly with the communist government, he was right in the end, that visit changed everything. for a while, he told us, it would be good for everyonement relations with china would help every american, that's what the experts said. free trade would make us rich. they continue to tell us that for decades, even after the evidence mounted, it wasn't true. even after china entered the world trade organization and eliminated entire portions of our economy along with millions of american jobs they sustained,

most of which never returned. the media, mostly ignored that part, it didn't affect them, and they weren't interested. factory workers could learn to code. and, in fact, some workers may have learned to code, but then ironically, china began the wholesale theft of our country's intellectual property, our coding, which is the only thing we had left once our hard industries died. the media stayed silent as this happened. they didn't seem angry about it. they didn't seem bothered at all by china's espionage campaign >> doctor? >> doctor? against the u.s. government >> doctor? which is the biggest and most >> doctor? >> doctor? successful spying operation >> doctor? since the cold war. >> doctor? reporters didn't find that >> doctor? interesting either. >> doctor? >> doctor? they screeched about russia and >> doctor? >> doctor? george floyd and hoped we >> doctor? >> doctor? >> doctor? wouldn't notice any of it. the biggest stories of the >> doctor >> doctor? decade, ignored. >> doctor? so why do we do that? >> and doctor: >> well, we miss anyone? why the deception? we can only speculate. but we can tell you there's so >> tucker: oh, doctor. kind of amusing. many americans are being hurt by let's get serious for a minute. china, including hundreds of thousands of them killed in imagine your nightmare health their prime from imported emergency. you're on vacation with your chinese narcotics, a small group

family. you suddenly double over with of americans was prospering. in every age, there are a few shooting chest pains and lose who getting rich from the china consciousness. trade. in our time, most of these you wake up strapped to an ambulance racing to the people have clustered around joe emergency room. biden. he's their candidate. paramedics hover over you trying we've learned today a man called to keep you calm. you've had a massive coronary, they shout, we're going to take bob aiger may become the next good care of you. ambassador to the people's one of the best doctors in the republic of china. bob i goer runs the walt disney country. whoopi goldberg said this person should be the next surgeon company. few have made more money from general. you slump back on to the the connections and few are as stretcher deeply relieved. moments later, they wheel you in openfully grateful for it. the hospital. it's true, he admits it. there she is, the famous doctor they just told you about. watch. >> today the celebration of something's wrong. she doesn't have a stethoscope, not a chart or ekg machine in creativity and collaboration, sight. commitment and patience. she's turning on what appears to be an overall projector. a triumph of imagination and jill, a nurse yells, there's a patient, what do we do? innovation and testament to the strong partnership between that's dr. bide on the you, the disney and china. woman says and watches a slide together, we have created an show on equity and diversity in extraordinary destination. delaware's community college here, east meets west, the past system. for the first time, you have no meets the future, and anything fear of death, you welcome the

is possible for those who sweet release, you don't walk believe. toward the light, you run. >> anything is possible for so, contrary to what you just those who believe. read, dr. jill bide season not a bob i goer said. healer. she's not allowed to write that was 2016 at the opening of prescriptions. she wouldn't know what to do a new disney theme park in with your appendix. she has an education degree from shanghai. but it took more than belief and faith to get that deal done. some school in delaware. bob aiger didn't explain what you're supposed to find that highly impressive. disney had been willing to do to she could be surgeon general. get the park opened in china. many laughed, we took it according to an account in "the seriously. because that's our job. new york times," bob aiger met we read her dissertation this week. the very document that made her, personally with china's quote, a doctor. propaganda minister in 2010 and and what did we discover when we promised to use disney's global did that? we're going to give it to you in a diagnosis. platform created by walt disney, dr. jill needs reading glasses, a patriot, to, quote, introduce either that, or she's borderline more about china to the world. illiterate. there are typos everywhere, in other words, disney promised including in the first graph of to spread chinese government the introduction. propaganda. dr. jill can't write, she can't that's what they did. really think clearly either. disney began working directly part of the dissertation seems with the ministry of culture in to be written in the foreign china. that partnership produced a film language using english words. called "born in china." the they're essentially pure movie promised to show case to nonsense like pig latin or dogs the world the spectacular wild barking. the whole thing is incredibly life and natural beauty of china. he also granted the chinese embarrassing.

and not simply to poor government a 30% share of the illiterate jill biden, but to disney management company that ran the shanghai property and a the college that considered this scholarship. the higher education, to the 57% ownership stake in the nation itself. shanghai resort including jill biden's doctoral revenues from merchandise, dissertation is our national shame. restaurants, and hotels. are we overstating this. put yourself in his position. you watched for decades that the you decide. on the very first page of dr. government of china has hurt your country, hurt your fellow biden's owe pus, she describes an average class of students at americans. if you were a patriotic person, a community college called delaware tech. would you jump into business of course, she counts the deals with the people who did that? students by their skin color, bob aiger did. if you're getting she's a biden after all. the impression that he'll do but pay close attention to the anything for a buck, slow down math. for a minute. quote, three quarters of the that's not entirely true. class will be caucasian. he's not that guy. one quarter of the class will be he's a sensitive soul. african-american. he's a man of deep conviction one seat will hold a latino. and the remaining seats will be and principle, at least here in filled with students of asian america. he announced it would be, quote, difficult for his company to decent or nonresident aliens. film in the state of georgia. somehow, dr. biden accounted for why? all five quarters of the class. because the state of georgia was moving forward with a law to ban which actually isn't easy. abortions after doctors could you've got to pay close detect a fetal heart beat. attention to do something like he was offended by that. that. the dissertation continues, dr. he'd like more americans to jill's habit of counting things abort their children and he's in nontraditional ways. willing to pay the price for

that high ideal. on page 47, for example, she but in china, there's a separate writes this. of the 159 students surveyed, 55 slate of standards. china can throw ethnic received financial aid, 41 paid minorities in concentration their own tuition bills, 45 catches, china can weld students' parents pay, three coronavirus patients in their apartments until they starve to spouses pay. nine receive scholarships, nine death, and have. they can crush protesters on others receive funds from the gi bill, vocational rehabilitation tanks on television, none uh of programs or grants. that bothers bob. now, we said that fast, but did you follow the accounting there? china has it right, he says, jill biden surveyed 159 apparently in forced abortion. he loves china and he's not shy students. but she received a total of 162 about saying so. >> they welcomed us there and let us build shanghai responses. so go ahead and try disneyland. that at home. you can't, you're not a doctor. so we have a good relationship with the government of china and and it goes on. local governments in china. at one point, dr. jill and the access has increased suggests -- and this is innovative, that, quote, the over time. generally, at least of the coo administration may want to consider in future planning an of the walt disney company look at china quite favorably. eight-week study week. an eight-week week. >> tucker: seems shocking now. let you know what the how can that man be in the administration thought of that before in their tired western running. joe biden isn't thinking of linear approach to time and nominating bob aige in spice of space, there was only a single week in the week. what he said. another relatic to the he may nominate him because of what he said.

patriarchy. sucking up to china is the once jill biden smashed the glass ceiling that shielded community colleges in delaware qualification. and actually, bob aiger is to new progressive approaches to following the lead of the biden time management, we could have family. our reporter obtained a 2017 eight full weeks. as jill biden might say, that's e-mail from joe biden's son, an 8,000% increase. hunter, to the chairman of the not bad. we're being cruel there. chinese energy company, cefc. not all of jill biden's the e-mail offers, best wishes from the entire biden family. dissertation is ha luis in a genic fantasy. it goes on to urge the chairman some is real. some seem verified. to quickly send a $10 million take this one, according to the wire to properly fund and operate the buyeden family's retention director at cecil venture with the company. community college, the cecil now, ce fshg c, you might community college made a concerted effort to address remember, is the company that retention. there you have it. offered hunter $30 million for, in delaware, retention directors quote, introductions alone, say they're addressing retention. consider the debate over cecil introductions to the people his father worked around, introductions to his father. community college's retention efforts settled, straight from and the equity stake for someone the source. called the big guy. there's a lot of newsy bits like who's the big guy. that in her dissertation. according to the ex-business partner, the big guy was joe it's still online, at least for now. but whatever you do, do not make biden. if all of this seems a little too brazen to be real, consider fun of it. if you dare to notice that dr. the media class and the silicon jill isn't a super genius, you hate all women. companies they depend on for

revenue operate in the same way. it was four years ago today, you're a dangerous misogynist. december 16, 2016, that our >> but many are saying, what national news media was united we've read about dr. jill biden on one point -- nothing, they would never have been written told us, was a bigger threat to about a man. the safety of this democracy >> an attack on jill biden's than foreign meddling in our doctorate that's petty, elitist, politics. it was happening before our eyes, we were told, and our and misogynistic all at once. president-elect, donald trump, >> numerous professors told "the was probably come police it in that meddling, not by chinchinat new york times" the suggestion that dr. biden not use the honor by russia. i havic is blatantly sexist the a specter of treason hovers over donald trump. the same day, december 16, 2016, way many men disparage women's credentials. "the washington post" open bed >> apparently -- who needs -- by jeff bezos, china's biggest >> but, then you -- do you give front for retail sales in this it oxygen by talking about it? do you -- but you do have to country, published a piece in this headline, quote, fbi in bring attention to it and say, this is outrageous. agreement with cia that russia >> yeah. aimed to help trump win the >> tucker: they're so touchy. interesting. white house. and national public radio, cnn, they're telling you that no one would tell a man dumb -- okay, nbc, every news organization that's wrong. dashed off the similar stories we call dr. jill's husband dumb making the same point. all the time. yet none of these outlets are we're going to go full feminist saying word one about the e-mails we just read you. here and admit that dr. jill is the biden family's attempt to a lot smarter han the man she

married. not that it's saying much. get money from our chief joe biden never wrote a adversary on this which is the dissertation, even on community government of china. colleges. the only thing joe biden has they say nothing about bob written are reminder notes to aiger's prop gandizing in china. wear matching socks. they celebrate the idea that he it's not a sexism thing. might be our country's what it is is a class thing. representative to the government we have a class system in this of china. why is that? country. and it's based on credentials because our media are dependent like the ones dr. jill biden on china. they won't let you view stories has. a certain sort of person in about hunter biden because those stories are about china. america gets advanced degrees, negative stories about china are or works at mckenzie or goes to not allowed. jail. it's becoming obvious. not -- or goes to yale. hours ago, a major digital store front in the united states banned the sale of a video game because it mocked the appearance not to work or achieve anything of the president of china the. worth having, no, to justify not of our president, but of the their power over you. chinese president. that's not allowed. they've got more merit badges, and, yet, in the face of this, therefore they rule. it's a ridiculous system when joe biden is accelerating our you think about it. and that's precisely why they sucking up to china. don't want you to think about installing chinese prop gan it. it's why they shout at you and dises in the u.s. government to call you names when you mention represent our interests in front it. of china. it's why they're so touchy. this will continue to happen if you're allowed to point out every day in this country. that jill biden isn't really a and if you try to say anything about it, your words might

doctor, maybe not even very bright, you're one step away disappear too. from noticing that the medals on ken buck represents colorado in the united states congress their chests aren't real either. calling for a special counsel to it's all totally fake just like probe the business dealings with the government of china. the meritocracy that justifies he joins us tonight. congressman, thanks so much for coming on. their power. so, what would you like to know specifically about the biden we've seen a lot of meltdowns family business deals with the government of china. this year, but tom cruise >> i think the critical question possibly topped them all. not for the first time. is how much joe biden knew about you might want to lower the hunter biden's activities. volume on the television. we're going to play you the we know that two days before -- audio from the set of the new two days after joe biden met "mission impossible" movie straight ahead. (announcer) need to lose weight? with a board member from burisma, owned and operated by a corrupt ukrainian oligargh, that hunter biden joins the board and can't figure out why those diets makes $83,000 a month. won't work for you? go to golo.com, where over 1 million people have found golo we know hunter biden received a check from the wife of a mayor and a new and better way to lose weight. of moscow. hunter biden was on the air this is not only a weight loss journey, this is a complete transformation, force two oh with vice president biden going to china, meeting mentally and physically. with chinese officials and banks (announcer) want to lose 60 pounds?

and investment firms controlled how about 100 pounds? be i the chinese communist you can. party. and 12 days later, starts an (woman) it's easy, and it will change your life. investment firm partnership with (announcer) go to golo.com. those chinese government that's g-o-l-o.com. officials. so, we know that joe biden was aware of some of the activities. we don't know if he benefitted financially from them. but there's no way that the american people are going to trust the -- the biden administration to look into his own son and possibly his dealings. so, that's why it's so critical that we get a special counsel to investigate what happened with hunter biden, china, the ukraine, and other countries. >> tucker: the themes are becoming pretty clear. hollywood trade publication today reported that biden is considering naming bob aiger of disney, a company that explicitly carried chinese propaganda under the guise of entertainment as the u.s. ambassador to the government of china. how can that be under consideration.

>> it's an example of how far the biden administration is going to move away from the effective policy of the trump administration. the trump administration took them seriously. we know they're a military threat, they cheat in every single area financially and economically. and we know their domination around the world continues. and if we don't stand up to them, and frankly, if we don't build an alliance with western europe and other countries to stand up to china, they will continue down this path. it's clearly to our detriment and to the detriment of freedom. ask the protesters in hong kong, ask the uygurs put in concentration catches. china cracks down on dissent. it's not a value in this country. >> tucker: ask anyone who uses google. that's what i hear about. congressman, great to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so, back in 2018, two

years ago, an executive at apple explained that his company will never do two things -- pornography, hard core nudity, he described it, and, kwoept, china. you can go on your i phone's text messaging app and find pictures of donald trump, vladimir putin, and other world leaders. try to find a picture of china's president, you can't. he's noticed this today. he's a top radio show host in washington, d.c. and we're happy to have him on tonight. so, vince, i went and looked briefly, endless pictures of trump, some in drag, same with putin. a lot -- not one of the leader of the world's largest country? how is that? >> great question. everything you said so far. it applies to apple as well as disney. apple is a company that's deeply dependent on china for a bunch of reasons. for one, they offer so many jobs to china, 90% of the supply chain for i phones and ufl the

products that apple creates come out of china. they're manufactured in china. as a market, they're responsible for upwards of a quarter of all of their revenue. so, apple deeply intertwined with china. they made a decision sometime ago as you noted that they will not be criticizing china. that's one of two gigantic red lines for them. hard core nudity, a lot of people agree with that, criticizing china? what? this is an american company. it was created in america. and today, just using the text messaging app is an unbelievable thing. on your apple iphone, i have an iphone, i use it all the time. on this product, there's an image feature, click #images, you search for a funny fwift. i was having a conversation about this topic, bob iger joining the biden administration. i wanted to find a picture of the president of china rejoicing.

how goofy it was that bob iger would sell us out there. i couldn't find anything. i searched china's president, nothing. tiananmen, nothing. just to drive home the point, of course, there are pictures of trump looking like a buffoon, there's pictures of kim jong un all over this, easy to find. but all of the china-related topics, nothing, what does that tell you? >> tucker: apple can't afford to mock the president of china, because they're dependent on china and so is the united states. that raises a question, if you love someone, your children, you encourage them to be independent, self-sufficient, our leaders don't encourage that. they've allowed us to become dependent on a foreign nation that hates us. what does it tell you about our leaders? >> it tells us they lost sight of the people they're supposed >> typewriter maintenance at the to care for and lead. they're no it leading us. club school for women. thank you for playing. they're blindly asking us to should we or should we not follow and not caring about our follow the advice of the galactically stupid? destruction.

one of two things, one is the destruction of the middle class, the economic impact. >> tucker: almost 30 years ago, but there's the cultural one. tom cruise in the movie "a few the hollywood film studios you good men," 1992. mentioned that are selling out well, as always, life imitating to china, apple, by censoring art, fox's matt fin joins us content, on behalf of china. the effect of all of this is to tonight with breaking tom cruise short circuit the conversation news. hey, matt. about the evils of china. >> hey, tucker. they're whitewashing china's the jerry maguire star saw two oppression so that americans can't think about it. crew members breaking social can't talk about it. distancing rules on the overseas can't express it. set of the latest movie. they're doing china's bidding. they're serving the chinese the actor screamed at the crew communist party in order to keep that the disregard for rules us from having real risked shutting down the production and people not conversations about the way that getting paid. the son released the audio. country's communism threatens us. and it's -- it's actually >> i don't ever want to see it again, ever. and if you don't do it, you're frankly despicable. >> tucker: we're going to have fired. i see you do it again, you're to keep bowing to them as long as we're dependent on them. you can't quit your job if you [ bleep ] gone. have a huge mortgage, you have we're not shutting down this movie. to get out of debt first. someone can make this country is it understood? generally more independent. >> yes, sir. great to see you. >> thank you, tucker. (yelling) if i see it again, >> tucker: we've heard all week you're [ bleep ] gone. about someone called dr. jill >> tom cruise has been one of the leading names trying to keep

biden. of course, we've mocked the idea hollywood afloat in the that she's a doctor. then we decide, well, let's read pandemic. he called the latest mission impossible set the gold standard her doctoral dissertation. for covid precautions, shouting she got it in delaware. at crew members that he's in we spent the day doing that. daily talks with people in the we'll tell you what we found in industry that are keeping an eye her research, next. on his movie's production. >> (yelling) hollywood is looking at movies right now because of us, because they believe in us and what we're doing. i'm on the phone with every [ bleep ] studio at night. you're killing confidence. producer? and they're looking at us and you need us -- (yelling) if you talk to the people that are losing their [ bleep ] homes because our industry is shut down. that puts food on the table or pay for the college education. we shut down, it's going to cost people. their -- all the way down from --

>> tucker: actor george clooney is now standing with cruise saying if production goes down, a lot of people lose their jobs, clooney said he might not have reacted as big as tom cruise did. he shelled out $700,000 of his own money towards covid precautions for the crew on his movie's set. tucker? >> tucker: great to see you. thanks. answers the question, does scientology make you calm. apparently not. mark stein joins us tonight with reaction -- i'm not sure we're doing this segment. but there's something amusing about it. i want to know what to think about it. but, please, let me know. >> that was a long soliloquy in tom cruise terms, it went on for i think about 4.25 minutes. after which the member of the crew walked forward and said to tom, you had me at hello. but, look, this -- this business is going on. this shoot was actually happening in england in southern

england, where 60% of the population of england is currently under the most extreme form of lockdown. you can't have anybody who doesn't live with you in your house or even many your garden. yet, somehow tom cruise managed to get permission from her majesty's government to stay -- to shoot mission impossible 37 in southern england in a time that you can't open a restaurant or a laundry. you can't open a hair salon. and there's something funny about this -- something odd, to me, about the way that -- the motion picture industry is apparently essential at a time when nothing else is. i can understand why he wants to keep getting his however many tens of millions of dollars he makes from -- i mean, i haven't seen -- i -- i think this is mission impossible 27. he's making them too fast for me. i don't think i got past mission impossible 12.

but i don't quite get why mission impossible 27 is essential work and 60% of the population of england is currently locked up in its homes while he shoots. >> tucker: that's a good question. speculating here. i'm not an epidemiologist as you know, but perhaps because it's fantasy and not real, nobody can get sick while making a movie? just a guess? >> well, i -- i also think it's because in the multiplexes of shanghai and wuhan, they are desperate for product. and -- and somewhere the -- somewhere behind all of this, even though nobody here can go to a movie at the wuhan multiplex at the realto in shanghai, they are desperate for a mission impossible 27. and chairman xi expects tom cruise to deliver. >> tucker: everyone is mad at

someone. no one seems mad at china. i wonder why. >> it's interesting. it's very fair. thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: thank you. so, the president has a major decision to make about the fate of julian assange, the founder oh of wikileaks. we're going to speak to his fiancee about him and what the president might do in that case. straight ahead.

>> tucker: julian assang seshgs the founder of wikileaks, he's in poor health. he was arrested last year. he was charged with violating the espionage act of 2017. whatever you think of julian assange and what he did, he's effectively a journalist. he took information and he put it in the place the public could read it. he may die in prison. the current president, donald trump, has the power to pardon julian assange -- indications he might, many are pushing for. should he, and why? his fiancee joins us tonight.

thank you so much for coming on tonight. so, this is a subject that you thought about obviously a lot. but give us the condensed version of why you believe the president should pardon julian asang. -- assange. >> well, julian has been suffering for ten years now. he lost his liberty ten years ago, right after the u.s. diplomatic cables were published by wikileaks. he's been in prison two years now. he's not serving a sentence. he's just there because the u.s. wants to put him on trial. and the consequences of a chile against julian don't just affect him or us as a family. they affect everybody because everyone agrees that this is a terrible, terrible case. terrible case because it is the end of the first amendment if it comes to pass. julian doesn't face a fair trial in the u.s. he'll be tried in alexandra, virginia, where the jury pool

will be composed of the -- the people who live in virginia who have a preponderance of people who work for -- security contractors and the deep state. and essentially, once he gets to the u.s., he -- he'll be in the hands of the deep state. and that's why i -- i put out a -- a -- i pleaded with the president to show the mercy that the deep state will not show julian if he's extradited. >> tucker: one of the striking things about this case is that he is in jail because he released documents, which he did not steal. he simply provided a platform for those documents, that showed the u.s. government was illegally spying on many and everybody else in this country. 350 million americans spied upon illegally by their government. now, the people they did that, clapper, brennan, people who knew about it and participated

in it, they're not being punished. but the guy who revealed them doing it is. what do you make of that? >> well, look, as i said, everyone agrees this is a terrible case. republicans, democrats, the aclu, "the washington post," "the new york times," the editorial board. the only people pushing for this are the worst elements oh it was deep state. >> tucker: true. >> not just because they want to silence julian, they want to end the first amendment. they see the first amendment as a threat to their malfeasance, their abuse being exposed. 's what this case is about. >> do you have any hope that joe bide listen pardon julian assange, or is that a rhetorical question? >> as i said, there are -- there are people -- people in the democrat -- in the republicans that really understand what this case is about.

and it's in no one's interest except those worse elements of the deep state this this -- this goes ahead. because if it does, it creates a terrible precedent that can be used against everyone, everyone. it can be used against you, tucker. and julian, he is -- he's -- i see a lot of things that are said about julian, and that are entirely false. julian is a libertarian. he comes from a deep distrust of institutions of government. not because he's anti-authority per se, but because institutions are made up of people, and people are fallible, and yet some people are principled, but many people are also corrupt and corrupt people in power are dangerous. that affects our families, brothers, sisters, son, and daughters, who are then sent to war.

and sometimes don't survive. so it affects everyone. and basically this case is about revenge against julian. and julian is a -- you know, the president has to think about what his legacy will be. julian is perhaps the foremost free speech campaigner alive in the west. and he's imprisoned. and the president want ha to be his legacy? or does he want to, you know, ensure that the first amendment survives this trial? and survives by -- you know, pardoning hip and not having this trial. >> tucker: he is fortunate to have you speaking for him. because you are making a powerful case. stella morris, i appreciate you coming on tonight. for what it's worth, i think the president wants to pardon him. i think a lot of sinister people don't want a pardon to happen. see what happens.

great to see you, thank you so much. good luck. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: you might have thought theft and assault were serious crimes. but one major american city is about to make them legal. all you have to do is say the magic words. we'll tell you what the imagic imagic -- the magic words are in case you want to commit assault or theft. the worst snowstorm is hitting the northeast. here's a look at our headquarters outside at new york city.

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me the municipal court doesn't give a good way to identify their under lying life circumstances. >> it gives the defense the attorneys representing the client the opportunity to share that story with the court. >> tucker: so what underlying life circumstances will get you out of jail? the lady didn't explain so we've invited jason rance on to do so. hey, jason. >> well, all you have to do is say you're homeless or low income or dealing with the symptoms, not actual mental illness, but the symptoms. what this bill does is carve out a legal loophole that allows for crimes to address, quote unquote, basic needs. say you break into a car, you steal a radio, you sell it. that gives you a pass so long as you're saying i was stealing it and selling it because i needed to buy food. what the proponents will tell

you, like the council member behind this, is this is all about stopping the criminalization of the poor which is of course absolutely absurd. i defy anyone, literally anyone, to find me the case of the mother stealing baby formula for her starving kid. or the guy who just can't get by because he doesn't get food. we're not prosecuting those people. the ones we're talking about here are the ones who take a piece of cement, throw it into a storefront, steal bicycles. go into stores in the middle of broad daylight and steal a whole bunch of stuff. that's what we're talking about here. by the way, those folks right now rarely, rarely get charged by the prosecutors here. the irony in all of this is lisa herbolt herself was just the victim of a crime. she called the police, which she defunded just a couple weeks ago, to report someone had thrown a rock at her home. now, obviously, that is a crime. people should not do that. but under her bill, all that

person would have to do is say, i kind of felt depressed about the direction the city is going in and i felt i had to do that and, technically, that is an affirmative defense that could get that person off for paying for that crime. she calls 911, she wants the actual investigation. >> tucker: nose ring lady called the police. that seems racist to me. >> this was a white guy. you are allowed to call 911. >> tucker: it doesn't matter because it's systemic, jason. >> that is true. look, it's really bad. what this is doing, it's not helping anybody. you're not giving consequences to people who in large part, we're talking about people who are dealing with serious issue concerning drugs. if you don't get them in the system, if you don't get them on the right path, they end up doing what they usually do, which is continue to destroy their lives. travis burgy is an individual who had almost 40 convictions,

right? he didn't really get punished all that harshly. he was in and out of the system. he ends up brutally murdering someone in a park in seattle just a few weeks ago. that is the path that we're going down. seattle right now is on life support and with a bill like this, you're going to flat line this city. that is a serious concern that even some liberals are starting to speak up about. >> tucker: yeah. letting junkies live outside is not the answer. h hannity. >> hannity: thank you. 9:00 on the east, 6:00 in the eas east. alexandria cortez wants chuck shumer and nancy pelosi to step down. we'll take you the take straight

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