shenanigans we'll get up to. bill hemmer? take it over from here? >> bill: you doing christmas gifts today or -- >> dana: no. but wait -- our christmas show is going to be unbelievable. you cannot miss christmas eve on christmas day. >> bill: looking forward to it. thanks, dana. catch you at 5:00. >> dana: okay. >> bill: so good afternoon. i'm bill hemmer. big thursday begins now. lawmakers facing an end of year deadline. mitch mcconnell saying congress is no stranger for christmas cliff-hangers. and covid relief expires in two weeks. republicans zeroing in on hunter biden and the president-elect says his son did nothing wrong. eric swalwell ignoring questions about the media and his relationship with a suspected chinese spy. >> do you plan on stepping down or resigning from congress? tell us anything about your

relationship with mrs. fang? anything in general? congressman swalwell? >> bill: ear buds work. millions of americans have been out of work for months. can lawmakers get a deal done in maybe. howie kirtz on how the media is covering this. we begin with brett bear. the hunter biden store gives a little bit every day, like a drip drip if you want to make that case. where is it now, bret? >> there's an investigation ongoing. we know it's broader than just taxes. it's overseas business dealings. there's calls on capitol hill to try to find out exactly what is happening. what we know is that the attorney general has set the table that this investigation is going to keep going. and the question is, whether the calls for a special counsel up on capitol hill are necessary or

not. how the doj under a biden administration is going to handle something as sensitive as investigating the president's son. >> bill: this transition period is hitting a disruption like 2016. back then it was russia russia and never materialized. johnson, republican from wisconsin, on our program yesterday said this is the critical reason why this needs to find its way toward a conclusion or an answer. senator johnson. >> i'm concerned based on the fbi's investigation and hillary clinton's e-mail scandal which we investigation, it was an investigation designed to cover up the truth and exonerate hillary clinton. i need to be assured that's not the case with this u.s. attorney in delaware. we need a thorough investigation. we need equal justice in this country and that's something that comey fbi and parts of the department of justice under obama we didn't have.

>> bill: on the last point, we don't know how that will play out just yet. we have bread crumbs on the trail. we don't know, do we, bret? >> no, we don't. we assume that this investigation has been ongoing since 2018 when we know it started. and that it has really not stopped even though it wasn't public. there was the covert time and now the overt time. the question is, what happens when the next administration gets in? obviously the coverage has been different. the disparity of coverage before the election and when it comes out that he's being federally investigated, finally other news media outlets had to cover it. >> bill: we'll get to howie kirtz in a moment on that. meantime, democrats have a battle on their own hands. alexandria ocasio-cortez was asked about democratic leadership. the answer is intriguing. roll it. >> are you ready to say pelosi and schumer need to go?

>> i mean, i think so. a lot of this is not just about these two personalities. they're also about the structural shift that these two personalities have led in their time and leadership. the answer is yes. the answer is we need to shift power. we need to make sure that we have a transition of power in the leadership of the democratic party. >> bill: so you live in that town. how is that going? >> listen, this is the next big story for the next congress. no matter what happens in georgia with the run-offs down there, whether republicans hold on to control or they don't, just barely, it will be slim in both chambers. that opens the door for moderates to have a broader coalition to get together and steer legislation. that's the concern for aoc and others. they think the leadership needs to change. i think there will be a battle with the progressive side of the democratic party and the standard bearers. >> bill: what is interesting

about that, if republicans want to get to the bottom of the biden business, you win both races in early january. if you do, you can figure this out on an investigative front. if you do, you probably hold off the left flank of the democratic party for joe biden when he takes office in january. >> the run-offs are key for that reason. the committee hearings, you can control the agenda. you can control the investigations. if they lose, it would be senate majority leader chuck schumer and senate banking chairman bernie sanders. >> bill: thanks, bret. want to bring in howie kirtz. here's the headline of the "new york post." covering hunter biden. distrusting the media. what do you think about that? >> there's no question, bill, during the campaign, most news organizations played down or ignored or dismissed some kind of russian disinformation, the allegations about hunter biden.

even today, even after hunter biden has acknowledged a federal tax investigation, some are continuing to play it down as well. and i was drilling down on a rasmussen poll because it's like a double standard with the way the trump family has been covered the last four years. look at it. 78% of republicans in this survey say media organizations play down the hunter story to help joe biden. 32% of democrats disagree. you have the social media sensory, twitter, facebook, they have damaged their reputation with the way they suppress stories. >> bill: so how will the media cover joe biden? >> well, i hope with more aggressiveness than what we're seeing in this transition period. with some exceptions, he's had an easy time when he's gotten together with the press. i'm not saying it has to be -- it's a very different president. he has a different style. he doesn't attack the press or tend to go on the attack. things will heat up after

january 20th when he doesn't have the luxury of being the president-elect. >> bill: and it seems he would bark back at reporters. remember on the tarmac late in the campaign when a reporter from cbs broached the question? he got an earful. >> and defending his son is a sensitive subject for joe biden. but he has a major league headache. this federal investigation is not going to go away unless hunter biden is cleared. i'd like to quickly get on the coronavirus relief bill. >> bill: sure. >> that is i just want to say i think it's a disgrace that congress has spent so long doing nothing while millions are suffering in this surging pandemic. it's a lot of finger pointing, a situation where it's politics. why america hates washington. now they don't want to go

empty-handed for christmas and there's pressure to get something done. you never know until the ink is dry. >> bill: senator rob portman said that they will possibly get a deal by saturday. so we'll see if that's the case. senators staying in d.c. over the weekend. thanks, howie. nice to see you. talk soon. >> thank you. >> bill: mitch mcconnell said the senate will work over the weekend. he warns not every detail is nailed down just yet. chad pergram covers congress. he's live on the hill now. chad? >> it's darkest before the dawn. that's where we are as they try to finalize a package for covid relief and fund the government. mitch mcconnell reiterated christmas is the worst time of the year on capitol hill. >> we in congress are no strangers to december funding deadlines or the occasional pre-christmas cliff-hanger. in that respect, the situation we face now is familiar.

>> nancy pelosi and chuck schumer spoke last night with steve mnuchin. they traded offers again today. [inaudible] >> now, the last mile on legislation of this dimension is always the hardest. a group of 14 house conservatives is urging president trump to veto the bill. they say the plan is take it or leave it. even if they finalize a deal, they have a problem. it takes awhile to process the bill and leaders have to make sure they have the votes. so weekend sessions are likely and probably have to do a short-term spending bill to avoid a shut down. bill? >> bill: thanks. we're watching it. chad pergram as well. also watching this fda meeting happening as we speak on whether or not to approve another vaccine by the end of the week. dr. marc siegel on that. later, dr. anthony fauci joins me with his message to americans on how to celebrate safely on

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the moderna vaccine. the vote could happen this hour. that would make moderna the number 2 vaccine on the playing field. want to bring in dr. marc siegel, professor of medicine at nyu. good afternoon to you. we have pfizer last week. moderna by this weekend. it strikes me that moderna might be a better vaccine because of the way you need to take care of it. it needs less attention. tell us about it. >> you know, i asked dr. fauci about that yesterday. he's very excited about both vaccines. he thinks they're comparable. one thing he said, the moderna vaccine doesn't have to be stored as cold. even in a refrigerator. you tend to story it in a freezer and take it out. you can keep it out of a freezer or refrigerator for 12 hours, bill. that is an enormous advantage if you want to get it to pharmacies or smaller clinics or doctor

offices. that's an advantage. the effectiveness is about the same as the pfizer machine. you don't have to premix it. you take it 28 days after the first shot. the side effects are similar. headaches and muscle fatigue. extremely effective, very safe. very exciting two vaccines at the same time. it will give us an arsenal. we can blanket the population with both. >> bill: that means we'll have two vaccines before new year's day. we will likely get two more in january of 2021. look at the way they're kicking this thing out, doc, i'm thinking april or may of 2021 and america, not the world, but the u.s. is a very different situation then. do you agree with that? >> yeah, and i happen to think, bill, the healthcare workers the last few days -- we did a great job covering this -- sent a message around the country, i'm going to take it, you take it.

i didn't see any fear when i was there. they said we're all back to work tomorrow and they did. that sent a message. we can't wait to take this vaccine. it's an honor to take it. we can't wait to beat the virus with the vaccine. compliance is going up. the more compliance we get, the more we can stamp this out. >> bill: i have more good news. a home-based test was approved yesterday on behalf of the fda. how much do you know about that? when can we get our hands on that, doctor? >> you know, surprisingly, fauci has been working on that, too. the nih is working over that. the company comes out of australia. it's also very exciting. even in asymptomatic patients, those without any symptoms, those that just got exposed to it, it's about 91% effective. it's a nasal swab. it's not one of those that you have to put all the way back, which is why you can do it to yourself and then you get the results on the spot within 15 or 20 minutes.

you put it on your iphone to display. here's the key point, bill. you tell your doctor what the results are. you know what? i might want to follow that up with a pcr, a gold standard. i might want to confirm the negative or the positive. the accuracy is quite high. it will be a game-changer. how many people can't get out of their house if they're not feeling well to get tested. >> bill: that's a covid revolution. when is it available? what is the time frame? >> it's available now. it's got its emergency use authorization. it's starting to be shipped. hundreds of kits will -- >> bill: it's not in the store right now. >> it will be. it will be in the store or something you can get online the next week or two. absolutely. >> bill: love that. thanks, doc. nice to see you. marc siegel. nyu and here at fox. thank you, sir. >> thanks, bill. >> the chairman of disney reportedly at the top of

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officials say moscow is responsible. "this actor has demonstrated patience, openrational trade craft. this won't be stopped any time soon, bill. senate eric scott weighed in. >> if russia will do these type of things against our system and we ought to be very aggressive to make sure that one, they get no benefit out of it and they're harmed out of it. you can't sit here and say oh, please don't do it again. >> the pentagon says there's no evidence any of its information has been compromised. >> bill: this year the intel assessment focused or foreign influence. what are you hearing about that? >> that classified was due to congress tomorrow. it's been delayed. the spokesman for national intelligence did not mention

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administration. david, good day to you. the early reports say he might go to beijing. same say it might be london. what do you think? >> let's assume it's beijing. with all the shady deals that the biden family that was involved with and now is finally coming out, is this really the right time when all of this stuff about biden and china is coming out to pick a guy that many see as being complicit or aappeasing chinese censors? his appeasement of china and what they do to disney films in terms of censoring them goes back to 1998. there was a film about the dalai lama. he represented tibet. after the chinese got upset at that film, bob iger said i want to apologize and in the future

we should prevent this thing that insults our friends. this goes up to mulan, the movie, the live action mulan that was made by disney and some part made in cooperation with the same folks that were oppressing the leaders that minority, the muslim minority, as many as a million people have been brutally oppressed by the chinese government. they used an agency that is apart complicit in the wiegers. they received a lot of flak for that as receptly as last year when the nba dust-up happened, bob iger was asked to take a position between the nba and hong kong. iger said "to take a position that could harm our company in some form would be a big mistake."

bottom line is, this guy has appeased china many different ways. is it really the guy we want to hold the line for the u.s. in beijing? >> bill: but trump and pompeo, they poked the beijing bear. if you watch nikki haley with dana, she had a message for joe biden. here's part of that and then i'll ask you about it. watch. >> now we see that he and his family have had business dealings with china. we really need to make sure that china doesn't feel like they're going to get a pass here with biden and they understand that we're going to be as strong and tough as we've been this past four years. >> bill: her point is will he prove to americans that he will do that. what is your sense? >> no. there's no way that anybody in their right mind would believe this administration, the incoming administration of joe biden would be tougher in any way, shape for form than that of donald trump. the possible appointment of somebody like bob iger to be the

ambassador to china is the perfect example of their appeasement of china. >> bill: thanks, david. nice to see you. check you out soon. thanks for coming on. lawsuits keep coming. google facing accusations of manipulating a search result. the hits to new york city and its restaurants keep coming. affecting thousands of jobs. first you had covid. now the big snowstorm. we'll check in on the restaurants that are fighting to stay alive yet again.

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hunter's associates talked about a breakdown of the joint venture with cfsc. gilyard wrote to bobalinski -- >> there was a separate texts setting up a high level meeting with the chinese chairman of this energy company from may 7, 2017. gilyard texted bobalinski -- >> bobalinski replied on may 5, 2017 -- >> a source familiar told fox news that joe biden did not attend the may 27 meeting. at the same time period, gilyard

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up the attacks. it was in this context that america's top general, mark milley, chairman of the joint chief came face to face with representatives of the taliban for about two hours in dohar to commit to a reduction in violence. it's a significant meeting. it comes as the u.s. troop draw downs of 2, 500 troops continues. that is a target that the military says they will hit by january. experts say it's premature. doesn't leave up in people on the ground and nor do they know in the taliban are negotiating in good faith. general miley says there's been an uptook in attacks. general miller says he's fathomed the taliban has a deliberate campaign of violence. and there's a negotiation with pakistan and the taliban. pakistan has the control over

the taliban and now they're working for a deal. the taliban has not had to make any concessions. the afghan government has had to release prisoners. the u.s. government has drawn down their troops. the taliban has to meet in the middle. until then, these talks are at loggerheads. >> bill: eight states joining texas in a lawsuit against google and facebook. breaking this afternoon, colorado's attorney general announcing an anti trust lawsuit against google. edward lawrence from box business watching that in d.c. >> that's the third antitrust lawsuit since october against google. colorado attorney general phil wiser is leading a charge of 38 states and territories say google has an illegal monopoly. this lawsuit will likely be folded into a case by the department of justice last october. this goes further describe ago multipronged effort to maintain its monopoly through manipulating that search engine.

the point is next year these tech giants will be under pressure for size and influence. in the second lawsuit filed against google, the texas attorney general ken paxton says investigators uncovered potentially illegal arrangements with facebook. google saw facebook coming and the company cut a secret deal to get facebook to back off their competitive moves in exchange for guaranteed special treatment with google-run ads. the lawsuit nated that jedi blue. >> if one company controls the internet ad market, we all pay higher prices. everybody says the internet is free. in reality, it's expensive. these cost consumers billions that they have no idea that they're paying. >> the attorney general there says the result of the lawsuit could be structural changes to google's business or divesting or getting rid parts of it that

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>> bill: dr. anthony fauci warning americans this is the first christmas that he won't spend with his own children. he's urging americans to do the same. dr. fauci joined us on this program around thanksgiving time. he's back here again before his own birthday on christmas eve and the holiday of christmas. dr. fauci, good afternoon. thanks for coming back. >> good to be with you. >> bill: listen, i saw "the washington post" comments. i couldn't believe what i saw. i want to make sure i got this right. you're saying cancel the family gathering for christmas. is that right? >> no, i'm not saying that, that every one should cancel the family gathering. i'm saying people need to make individual choices. when you talk about having a congregate setting for dinner, not cancel the family aspect. you have some christmas dinners, people bring friends and others in who travel from different parts of the country.

you can have 15, 20 people at a dinner. that is really somewhat risky. you can do a modified version of that. you don't have to cancel things. you can still spend time with your family. i'm just asking people to be careful when it comes to travel that may not be necessary. travel that you can avoid. and when you get together, try to make some limitations, too. there's a misinterpretation somehow by some that said you have to cancel all family interaction. >> bill: that's a very important clarification. sounds like the same advice you gave at thanksgiving. >> right. >> bill: no more than two families at a time to come together. you've not deviated from that to be more clear. >> no, i have not. i think there's been misinterpretation. i've heard and seen tweets saying fauci says cancel christmas. nonsense. i've never said that. >> bill: you had about a week

ago high praise for what they're doing in new york. here's the transmission numbers that we have based on percentages of where they track the covid vaccine. you know how many businesses have been affected. 74% for the household. the bottom line is the stunner, restaurants and bars 1.5%. you have all of these people out of work. all of these restaurants closed. i mean, you really think that new york has made the best decision to do that when you look at those numbers? >> well, you know, what we really need to do is make sure -- when we say limit restaurant capacity or close restaurants or close the bars, there has to be accompanied by relief, financial relief for the restaurant owners and the bar owners. because certainly if you do that, if you shut down those establishments, you're going to diminish the transmissability of

infection. you can't do it in a vacuum. you have to help them out. they need relief. otherwise they may not be able to recover from the fact that you're asking them to shut down. you have to keep those two things together. you can't just say shut down and walk away. >> bill: so what i hear you saying, that is a message for congress. >> absolutely. i've been vocal about that. i won't deviate from that. that's something that we really need to do. we can't ask people to participate in a public health measure that unquestionably is damaging to their financial solvency without coming in and trying to help them. >> bill: i think what the restaurants would argue, they're doing everything they were asked to do. if you walk in those places, there's no one in there anyway. a table here, a table 20 feet away. they're doing everything that the government has asked them to

do and yet still they cannot operate. >> right. that's why they need help. that's why we're pushing for them to get help. >> bill: noted. what about moderna? will that be approved in the same way that it was with pfizer and if so, do you believe we have two vaccines on the field by this weekend? >> well, i don't want to get ahead of the fda and their decision. that is something that is going on as we speak right now. i have looked at the data carefully from both the pfizer and the moderna trials. they're strikingly similar. the efficacy is 94, 95%. it's quite effective in preventing severe disease. there's no real serious adverse events. so the safety profile looks good. i would anticipate that we will be seeing two vaccines, moderna and pfizer being implemented in the sense of vaccinating people

during the month of december. that has been the plan all along. that looks like that will happen. again, the final decision is going to be made very soon by the fda. >> bill: let's get it done, right? you feel the same way. you're going to stay on with the biden team. i think that continues your string, right? six terms? might be more than that going back to 1984. >> seven. >> bill: do you believe there should be a mandate for a covid vaccine for americans or is that something that the private sector should determine? leave the federal government out of it. should delta have that authority? should a business have that authority? what is your position on that? >> let me tell you what we've done with other infections and vaccines that individual as you mentioned, private sector components have made those decisions. for example, i'm a physician here at the nih in bethesda. i see patients in our hospital

on this campus. if i want to continue to see patients every year, i have to get an influenza shot and have documented that i was vaccinated against hepatitis d. that's just the policy that is made. many hospitals do that. so certainly what you're going to see to that there's some institutions that have the right to and say if you want to be working here, if you want to be in this situation, you have to get vaccinated. i doubt very seriously if it will be a central, federally government mandated vaccination. >> bill: would you like to keep washington out of that? >> yeah, i always feel you can do better because there's different sizes for different situations. not one size fits all. if you let the local institutions like hospitals make the decision, usually that's better than a central federally mandated system. >> bill: we'll see how this goes in 2021.

we've never been here before. final question, when do you get vaccinated, dr. fauci? >> i'm going to get vaccinated as soon as we get vaccine here on campus at the nih. i'll be on the list. hopefully that's in the next few days. i would anticipate that within a week i likely be the vaccinated. >> bill: before the birthday and before christmas. shot number 1 anyway. >> hope so. >> bill: okay. thanks for your time. let's talk again in 2021. happy birthday early. >> thank you. >> bill: in a moment, the new bills from senators introduced today that could change college forever. we'll tell you about that and the coach, urban meyer is here to talk about that next. rates have dropped even lower.e and now you can save $3000 a year. veterans can shortcut the process with newday's va streamline refi. there's no appraisal, no income verification, and not a single dollar out of pocket.

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garren fee lifetime scholarships and more. urban meyer here with. welcome back to our broadcast today. >> great to see you, bill. merry christmas. >> bill: hope your family is getting together. i think they are. >> they are. >> bill: this movement in the senate goes along with the story at the u.s. supreme court. that will now take up a case that will determine whether or not college athletes should be paid. what do you think about that idea? >> this has been a long time coming. name and likeness is supposed to go into effect. that is not necessarily getting paid by a market value system where if someone has market value for a car dealership for shoe contracts, et cetera, from what i understand, that will happen this summer. it will change. it will change college athletics forever. if it's positive or negative, do

you be determined. >> bill: do you expect it to happen? >> name and likeness will happen. it means players 17, 18, 19-year-olds can have agents. they can get jersey sales, autograph sales, et cetera. that will happen. that's my understanding. the whole thing about being on cameo and social media and how you get paid, i don't understand that. my understanding and that is going to happen and happen within the year. >> bill: okay. how does that change the game? you haven't said whether you like it or not. >> yeah, because i'm not going to do that. i don't know. i'm concerned. it's going to affect in three ways. it will affect recruiting. when you talk about college sports, begins and ends with recruiting. i hear that's not supposed to be an inducement. that's crazy. that will be huge for markets like columbus, ohio and places

like that. number 2 is the chemistry of the locker room. one player that could make tens of thousands of dollars and another player that is struggling to survive because they come from tough circumstances. how does that equate? this might be the most important. the mental health of student athletes. i've witnessed this in the last ten years from the social media to the expectations of parents, family members that if you make this money to go to the nfl, you can help us. 17, 18, 19-year-old should have that stress on them about supporting their family. they should worry about getting great grades and improving their school. if football works, great. if not, have a nice career in some other endeavor. those three areas i'll watch closely. >> bill: could be a societal charge if that's the case. thanks, coach. nice to see you today. enjoy, columbus, ohio. merry christmas to you and your family. six feet. >> bill: merry christmas, bill. >> thanks. >> bill: talk soon. here at 3:00 eastern, set your

dvr. watching stocks today. see if we get the covid relief. i mentioned earlier, rob portman said at daybreak yesterday they should have a deal saturday. we'll see if that's the case. here's neil. see you tomorrow. >> bill: all right. thank you, bill. in philadelphia, they're digging out and washington, digging in. at issue the covid-19 relief that you alluded to. we're getting close. what we don't know, the final details and increasing optimism that we will in fact have something for both parties to celebrate. i don't mean to be a tease, but that was good enough for a hat trick at the corner of wall and broad. the dow, the s&p 500, the nasdaq, all inching into the record books yet again today on optimism not only about another vaccine on the way, but again, as i said, the covid-19 relief on the way may be as well. welcome.