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we do enrichment programs for kids, child care, after-school care, camp programs in alignment with the broader ynca. >> dana: thanks, bill. the ymca is a national treasure. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> dana: thanks for joining us, everyone. i'm dana perino. one more show to go. i'll see you on "the five." hey, bill. >> bill: more raccoon, i expect. thanks. see you soon. good afternoon. i'm bill hemmer tracking three big stories on a friday. first to capitol hill where the fbi is set to brief the top republican on eric swalwell. kevin mccarthy say the democrat is a national security threat. we're watching the senate floor. could we have a covid relief bill by the end of the day? the press corps covering team biden demanding access. it happened on zoom.
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peter doocy on that. plus, our friday money team. what is in the covid deal and will it bring help to you. we begin the hour with kevin corke covering congressman swalwell. >> good afternoon. congressman swalwell may not have a lot to say about christine fang. he's made it clear he did all he could to help authorities once approached. he said he was shocked when the fbi told them about the risk that she posed. he said the bureau thanked him for his help noting that fang is no longer in the country. questions still swirl including fund-raising that she did for him and the fact that she placed a fellow chinese national in his office. democrats have shown support for swalwell including hakeem ever-reese of new york, nancy pelosi and adam schiff. they all say they have confidence in him but republicans are demanding
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answers about swalwell's tie's to beijing. >> today i will get a briefing. what is important to me, it raises so many more questions. what do the communist chinese have on the democrat that is so powerful? so powerful that they focused on a person when he was a city councilmember, bundled money for him to become a member of congress. this person got on to the intel committee. did somebody lobby for him? in his first year, he was overseeing the cia. then he ran for president. >> meanwhile, there's democrats including adam schiff that make the argument that members on both sides are approached by foreign nationals working covertly for their respective government. they're reported to the authorities that matter and they keep it moving. he argues that is what swalwell did in this particular case. but is that true? that's a question for the briefing now underway. as we get reaction, i promise to pass it along. back to you. >> bill: we'll watch the
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microphone. thanks, kevin corke in d.c. breaking news now. peter doocy reporting that biden transition officials declined to take questions from the fox news channel during a weekly meeting today. that's not where it ended. peter doocy picks up the coverage. what happened in wilmington today, peter? >> bill, the way they have been doing the briefings is on zoom. if you have a question, you go to the chat function and you say i have something i'd like to ask. they call on people. today they called on journalists from five outlets. it was politco, "new york times," "washington post," cnn, pbs. we said we had a question. we didn't get called on. we have never been called on in one of these. towards the end of the briefing where nobody asked about hunter biden among other things, some of the other mainstream journalists in the chat function started complaining that they were going to stop at five questions today. one guy from the daily beast wrote this.
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"hey, guys, there's tons of folks looking to ask questions. since this is done once a week, can we hold more frequent briefing." zeke miller said any chance you can take a few more questions? there's a lot of folks here with questions. an independent journalist got on there and said is there a point in saying we want to ask questions if you only call on the same small group every week? we know jen saki and the president-elect promised to bring back daily white house briefings when they take back the white house. we're getting a sense of what that might look like and something that is problematic in a zoom press briefing is if they don't call on you, you can't just shout to get somebody's attention. if you shout in a zoom, you're annoying the people in the hotel room next to you. bill? >> bill: two questions. are they doing this every day
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and is this the first sense of push-back that you've gotten from that crew? >> this is something that they've been doing once a week on fridays the last few fridays. this is certainly the most direct push back that we've seen in a chat function that has about -- it's a combination of biden staff and reporters, about 100 people on there. it's not like it's a private e-mail, this is airing grievances -- >> bill: very interesting. can you predict what the coverage could be like come january? how much access will you have? >> as long as covid is a concern, seems like this is what we'll be getting. there were questions food about what the west wing is going to look like, whether or not staffers are going to have to get the covid vaccine in order to work in the west wing and proximity to the senior officials.
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but they do not have any information as of yet as to what that might look like. >> bill: wait till they call on you. thanks, peter doocy watching the press corps. thanks, peter. >> i'm just saying, let's get through this short-term rescue package, which has awfully good things in it, particularly with respect to extending the small business loans, the ppp. we need to focus on letting people keep more of what they earn. we need to focus on providing less red tape. >> bill: larry kudlow earlier today with stuart varney. congress is racing against the clock to get a deal done on covid relief. chad pergram says both sides are trying to finish as quickly as possible. steve moore from the trump team
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and co-founder from government pari parity. steve moore, you get a shot now to close out the year. what is in the deal? is it too big? is it too small or just right, steve? >> boy, that's a big question. i have never been a big fan of a massive spending bill to get out of this crisis. it is a crisis. you know, we're looking at potentially 100,000 restaurants around the country closing their doors. some of them already have. we're looking at real problems with stores and retailers and the brick and mortar retail stores around the country that are not -- this is their biggest season and they're not open for business in a lot of places. by the way, it's divided america. those shut-downs are truly in states like new york, new jersey, connecticut, california and illinois that are run by democratic governors. you know, a lot of these states like florida and texas are open.
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so do i favor this bill? there's a lot in it i don't like. i think providing some short-term relief to the businesses and to the workers make sense. by the way, you just showed that clip from larry kudlow. i agree with him. we should put more money in people's paychecks through tax cuts and deregulation. there's none of that. a massive spending bill. >> bill: i'm going to austin now. what do you think, austin? >> they don't have a deal. i mean, really? seriously? they're going to have a government shut down because they can't agree on this? i know there's a lot of other things going on. i look at congress. i look at the president. i look at the millions of people out of work. the pandemic is raging. it's like do your jobs. this is their job. trying to prevent permanent damage from a raging pandemic. that is their job. the vaccine is a glorious thing.
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now we come to find out that pfizer says that have millions of extra doses but the federal government hasn't updated the shipping list to tell them where to send them. so it's -- just do your job. it's christmas time. let's have -- >> bill: my guess is they do get the -- this done tomorrow. what do you think, steve? >> they will. there's one issue about keeping the government open. i'm in favor of that. how do we come to the final deal on the relief bill? i don't like a lot in it but i agree, get it done and get the money to the businesses and the people that really need it. but i have to say this: you know, austin, every year the last 30 years, the moore family has trekked to chicago. we go on michigan avenue and the wonderful restaurants and the wonderful stores and the decorations. it's an incredible, fun three or four five days. we're not going this year, bill. you know what?
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because chicago is entirely shut down. so we're going to go to florida instead. >> bill: no, because there's a raging pandemic. there's a raging pandemic. it's not because of policy. >> bill: . >> why is florida open then? >> florida's economy, texas's commit, california, new york, the virus is killing the economy. we have to slow the virus. it's not about the lockdowns. those lock downs are trying to stop the spread of this virus. >> bill: he's right about the jobless. california, new jersey, new york. these states are leading the list, austin. >> well, you say they're leading the list. look at the economic slow down in the red states. the virus is raging. the red is part of america is now tennessee, red in terms of spread of the disease. the economic impact is extremely negative. >> bill: steve's point is that -- i get it.
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steve's point is that democratic leadership is more prone to shut down as opposed to staying open. final comment, steve. >> this is the problem. austin and i agree. it's a terrible, deadly disease. we need to do everything we can to stop the spread and get the vaccine done. it's been really harmful to the restaurants and stores. 15 million people are hired by restaurants every year. >> bill: i get the point. the vaccine is a stimulus, gentlemen. get it rolls. thanks, austin and steve. nice to have you back. >> merry christmas. >> i have great confidence in my son. i'm not concerned about any accusations that has been made about him. >> bill: joe biden is not concerned. some republicans say that they have seen enough to warrant a special counsel now. all this surrounding hunter biden. john kennedy sits on the judiciary committee. he will react. we'll talk to him in a moment. and then there's this. >> we are poised to have vaccine
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is that right? >> i was, bill. it was wonderful. painless. >> bill: congratulations. first shot now, next shot in january and you're done. well-done there. what about this warning about telling family members to wear a mask at home? you agree with that? >> yeah, well, i think if you're with your immediate family and you don't have people coming from out of state or from other parts of your state and you don't know what their infectivity is, you should be very careful. among your wife and children that you live with, it's not necessary to wear a mask. i think that. if i have relatives coming in from chicago, florida or wherever, have them wear a mask, wash their hands. i would take their temperature as they got to my front door. >> bill: that will make for a great dinner, huh, doc? dr. fauci was here yesterday. a lot of headlines going around that he was urging families to cancel christmas. he said that wasn't the case. here's how he clarified that yesterday. >> you can still spend time with your family.
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i'm asking people to be careful when it comes to travel that may not be necessary. travel that you can avoid. and when you get together, try to make some limitation to it. there's been misinterpretation. i've heard and seen tweets saying fauci says cancel christmas. nonsense. i have never said that. >> you're saying, doc, if you have folks from out of town, wear a mask inside the house. you're saying take their temperature. >> right. they haven't quarantined. you don't know what they've been in contact with. we know that asymptomatic people can spread the virus. you have to be careful. i'm not going to be a grinch and tony fauci won't say cancel christmas. but we have a bump here. we're taking car of everybody that was together for thanksgiving. we're saying christmas could be another double whammy for us.
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>> bill: the world health organization they will go to wuhan, china in january. 12 months later. arguably, 13 or 14. what do you think of that, doc? >> they should have done it a lot sooner -- >> bill: of course. >> -- than this january. the second week, there's eight members of the team that will go to wuhan. they don't think this is a manmade virus. they think it jumped species, which is common with viruses. so they're going to look at the boomerang bat and look in this wet market and they're going to try to get the data that the chinese have already accumulated. they've been working on this for many, many months. so i'm wishing them look. when they get there, they have to quarantine for two weeks before they can do anything. >> bill: when you think about the -- got a second left here. when you think about the world health organization, everything going on the past year or plus and the public trust or lack thereof, what took them so long? >> i don't know.
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>> bill: we're now learning kevin mccarthy and nancy pelosi are meeting behind close doors about eric swalwell. debbie dingell out of michigan with me now. how are you doing? merry christmas to you. i know you miss your man. it's your second christmas without him. i want to send you my very best to you and you're working in washington. we have to get you out of there. you're with me on that. >> yes. we have to get out of here. we can't leave until we get work done. >> bill: i expect this weekend. hope that is the case. >> hope see. >> bill: how big of a problem is this swalwell deal for you? >> we have to take any espionage story very seriously. it's very disturbing. i know speaker pelosi cares very
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deeply and will listen to the facts and make sure we're all protected. from what i understand, when eric was told that this woman who was trying to cultivate a relationship was who she was, he immediately gave everybody the facts and was very careful. you know, i want to say that we're not supposed to talk about this, but we're -- a number of us, more than we realize, have been warned that foreign governments may be trying to monitor us. we all have to be careful. >> bill: knowing that, would it be better if he was taken off the committee? you know, a dozen of republicans are saying do just that. what do you think? >> you know, i want to say that could become a tool. go embarrass every member of the intelligence committee. i'm going to trust people that have access to information i do not know that care deeply about the national security of this
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we heard in briefings which i would never have made public but other people with big mouths have, that they had targeted republican united states senators. i think -- >> bill: fair point. but it's really not apples to apples. there's facts about the story that are now public. >> maybe there's facts that i have not yet heard about. i mean, i've been told that the relationship was not a deep relationship, et cetera. so if there is more -- i don't have to access all of those facts. i'm not privy to those facts. nancy pelosi is. i trust her as our speaker. she served on the intelligence committee. she cares about our national security. i'm going to be very careful to attack the integrity of any republican or democrat until someone knows the facts. all of us. everyone of us is a target. >> bill: how much have you
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alleviate skepticism. brian kemp says the level of misinformation on social media has gotten ridiculous. >> this needs to stop. people need to do with facts. we'll give them to them. >> kemp says he's optimistic republicans will win in january. back to you. >> bill: thanks, jonathan kerry. cobb county north of atlanta. could be the most severe cyber attack in american history. that's what officials are saying after a massive data breach with suspected ties to russia. we're learning which departments that have been breached. teresa peyton is back with us, former white house chief information officer. welcome back to our program here. i think your talking points are amazing here. what have we learned thus far? >> part of what we learned because of the way the investigation is unfolding, it's like dog years. each day we learned something new. we learned a couple of things. for starters, we believe they've
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had access to very critical systems in the u.s. government and companies since at least march of 2020. we've also recently learned that you don't have to be a product -- a customer of solar winds to have possibly been impacted. the next thing is this vulnerability allowed the nefarious cyber operatives to create what we refer to in the industry as god access or god door. giving them basically any rights to do anything that they want to? stealth mode, which means when you're looking for indicators of compromise, because you don't find them doesn't mean they're not there. >> bill: wow. that's a lot. how come we continue stop this? >> the challenge that we have is that the way things are designed to be interoperable, that
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requires trusting the different cyber security systems in place. they actually took advantage of that trust and embedded malware, for example, in the solar winds program. there's also early indications that another cyber security product is also at risk in creating an issue. they also found a way to work and the multifactor authentification, which is that digital passport that allows you to sort of across systems say can i trust you, do i know who you are. as soon as your i.d. sends that digital passport, it lets you through. >> bill: this is a problem. this is a really effective approach that they're taking here. now, john roberts reported two hours ago, the department of energy said they're limited in isolated business networks only. you heard that report. what did you think of that? >> well, i have somewhat of a sigh of relief this year, them
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say that they didn't access the nuclear side or the production side of energy and that they were unsure the business or operational side -- >> bill: to be clear. did not, correct? >> did not. so they did not access the actual nuclear side of things or the energy side of things. this isn't over. so what we do know is that they have a foot hold in multiple departments and agencies and have to be eradicated. this is a long and hard process for departments and agencies, the military and potentially private sector organizations, which begs the question, who will pay for this? >> bill: that means it's costly. what should joe biden do and the coming administration? >> yeah, the outgoing administration and the incoming administration have to get together and work on this. they need to collaborate and talk about what is the plan here. as well as -- >> bill: teresa, i thought we were already doing that, right?
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we're so far down the line on this stuff. is the other side getting that much better? >> that is where we are. the other side only has to get it right once. they're playing the long game here. if it ends up being russia, they played the long game, very cautious. they wanted to make sure that they didn't get found and didn't do a smash and grab, which allowed them to stay in stealth mode for so long. >> bill: thanks, teresa. we'll see what the damage assessment will be eventually. thanks for your time and expertise. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> bill: the cdc partnering with walgreen's and cvs to get the vaccine out there. the largest nonprofit nursing home in the state of new york what are you learn something. >> it's a herculean and historic
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effort. the federal government relying on pharmacists from walgreen's and cvs to vaccinate 4.5 million residents and staff at 55,000 long-term care centers nationwide. it's really something. today walgreen's began administering the pfizer vaccine in long-term care centers in ohio and connecticut. the national roll-out begins monday. walgreen's has more than 27,000 pharmacists ready to go. >> when the vaccine arrives, our pharmacists will pick up that vaccine and the approved transport materials, trans for the vaccine to the facility, prepare the vaccine and begin the administration process. after that is done, we'll be monitoring for any sort of side effects. >> more than 110,000 elderly residents in long-term care facilities have died of covid-19. that is a staggering 39% of all coronavirus deaths in the u.s.
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the hebrew home at riverdale, u.s. largest nonprofit nursing home with 1, 800 residents and staff, the vaccine will be deployed here in three waves. >> we'll do a third of our staff with each tranche. we can monitor side effects to make sure everybody is safe and don't run the risk of having people outside. we need our front line workers here. >> we need to be protected. we're on the front line. we are the transmitters between the residents, between the outside world. >> the vaccine can't come soon enough for 85-year-old harriet kurkowski who is a proud resident of the hebrew home. >> a little bit nervous. i'm definitely going to take it. i became a great grandma twice this year. i haven't seen the babies yet, which is hurting my heart. >> the goal is to complete the vaccinations by march 1.
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the late show with stephen colbert. some republicans calling for a special counsel to protect the investigation under a new administration. john kennedy from louisiana here to talk about this. senator, how are you doing? fresh from your covid shot. you look good and healthy. how did it feel? >> easy peasy. it was quick and painless. some of my people back home have called me and said we're scattered to take the shot because we don't know what is in it. i tell them -- i ask them, do you eat hot dogs? you don't know what is in a hot dog either. you have to trust somebody. the most able people in the world have developed this vaccine. the vice president took it today. once it's available, you should take it, too. everybody listening should. >> bill: we'll do it with more mustard. you're a lucky one. your second shot is next month. talk about hunter biden here. if republicans lose these senate races in early january, what happens with that investigation?
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what do you think about where that goes, senator? >> well, it's a concern. we need a special counsel. it's a practical necessity. it's a moral imperative. it's a practical necessity, the special counsel that is, because we don't know if the delaware u.s. attorney will be around next month. it's a practical necessity because we can't depend on some members of the news media to ferret out the facts. it's a practical necessity for the bidens. i'm sure they want this to go away. it's not going away. it's going to hang around like an old smell until we have the cache of a special counsel whose sole purpose is to get to the bottom of this. now, it's also a moral imperative. the american people are entitled to know what hunter biden did
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for the money. i mean, that's the issue. what did you do for all of this money? >> bill: based on what you heard so far what concerns you about this with an incoming administration that is new and different and tied to this? >> first, whether there was any wrong doing or not, there was an appearance of impropriety. president obama put mr. biden in charge of foreign affairs of two countries, ukraine and china. in both cases his son, hunter, promptly walked away with tens of millions of contracts. i'm not saying there's anything illegal about that but sends the message to the rest of the world, that american's foreign policy could be bought. that is not the message we want to send to the world. the second thing -- >> bill: i apologize. keep going. number 2. >> that's okay.
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my second concern is we -- the laptop. we now have -- our u.s. attorney does, appears to be actual correspondence back and forth between the parties. some of that is very disturbing, bill. >> bill: if you don't get a special counsel what then? a lot of republicans say they don't want to go that route. what do you make of that? >> i know. i understand their point of view. they don't like special counsels in general. but special counsels are called special because they are special. you don't call for one every other thursday. i just don't think that we're going to get to the bottom of this given the suppress of the story by social media and the news media and given the fact that the person in charge of the investigation may not be around next month. i don't think we'll get to the bottom of it without a special counsel. >> bill: more to this then. thanks, senator. have a great christmas. let's get some covid relief over the weekend. thanks for your time. >> we're working on it.
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♪ >> bill: johnny mathis. best christmas ever. with the percy faith orchestra. live look in new york city. archbishop in new york, timothy cardinal dolan is here with us. nice to see you, santa claus. the last night of hanukkah. christmas coming up in a week's team. we're living up in a city that was. what are you thinking about right now as you try to settle on the past year? >> bill hemmer, thanks. greetings to you and the fox
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audience. thanks for the invite. what i'm thinking right now, i'm jealous of you, bill hemmer. i'm the only thing between you and your christmas break. are you heading home to cincinnati? >> i hope to get there a couple days. i'm going to tell you, thanksgiving was average with the small a. i'm setting my sights -- i'm telling my friends to set you remember sights low. what are you saying? >> could be. i'm telling my friends that this christmas is going to be much more simple. that, bill hemmer, is not a bad thing. simplicity, if you think about it -- i've giving you a hint about my midnight mass sermon. in bethlehem, it was not crowded. it was make do. mary and joseph and the child jesus in the stable. it was the best christmas ever.
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let's not get down in the dumps that simplicity can enhance the joy of the season. >> bill: fantastic. that is good. i mean, i did not think you were going to -- that's really good. >> you thought you were throwing me a curveball, bill. i wasn't going to bring some joy out of this christmas. but you know better. >> bill: indeed i do. so now as you go to 2021, do you have a message about where we're heading next in a new year? after all, look at what we just came through. >> yeah, yeah. you know what, bill? a lot of people are saying, look what we just came through. there was a lot of adversity a lot of loss, a lot of sadness. a lot of fear. darn it, we made it. very often it's easier to see the hand of the lord in the rear view mirror as we look back. we said he's been withes all the time. he got us this far through the loss and the somber and the dark times.
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we've made it and gives us a lot of sense a sense of hope and confidence in the year ahead. that is what this season is all about, bill. i'm glad you mentioned this is the last night of hanukkah. our jewish neighbors are alive with us as we celebrate through hanukkah and christmas. what? the triumph of light of darkness. this has been a very dark year. christmas celebrates the fact that the sun is turning around and beginning its rise in the sky. light and goodness and hope always have the last word. that is not a bad christmas, hanukkah and new year's message. do you think? >> bill: i'm giving you a good warmup. that's what we're doing here. praise to the intellect of humanity to come up with a vaccine in the record speed that they did. >> thank god. >> bill: terrific to see you. merry christmas to you and everybody at st. patrick's cathedral. >> hurry back and a blessed joyful christmas to everybody.
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hallelujah. >> bill: i'll see you in person in 2021, okay? that's a deal. >> i'm counting on it. >> bill: thank you, cardinal. have a great christmas. see you in 2021. i'm getting some time out. hope you do the same. merry christmas. >> neil: all right. waiting for some relief. investors are getting frustrated. the dow sliding a little today. still had an up week as did the other averages. what they're focused on is what is happening in that capitol building right now. because they're having a devil of a time coming to an agreement on covid-19 relief that we're told will total just under a trillion dollars. the devil is in the details as it is. they're pushing it late and to the brink as they always do. we might get a government shut down if they don't move fast in the next few hours as they also always seem to do. hope springs eternal that eventually they'll do all of the above and in rapid fashion. they

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