you never know with christmas week, the amount of news we are getting. great to be with you this morning, trace. >> trace: great to see dr. fati and alex azar get their vaccine shots, a boost of confidence for the people out there. >> sandra: absolutely. we see you back here tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: the house and senate have passed a massive spending bill, and lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle are calling a congressional leadership now, for giving them just a few hours to read it. it's a combination of the $9 billion coronavirus relief package and the $1.4 trillion resolution to fund the government. that comes to a grand total of $2.3 trillion, at nearly 6,000 pages it is the largest bill congress has passed by far. members had only six hours to read it, which means they would have to get through about 16

pages every minute if they wanted to read the entire thing. they do have teams, but that still a lot of pages. critics from every corner of the room are saying this is exactly what is wrong with congress. both progressive congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and republican senator ted cruz took to twitter, ripping the short time frame they were given. all of this, as senator rand paul called out his fellow republicans over the size of the bill. >> to so-called conservatives who are quick to identify the socialism of democrats, if you vote for this spending monstrosity, you are no better. when you vote to pass out free money, you lose your soul and you abandon forever any semblance of moral or fiscal integrity. >> harris: you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy.

attorney and fox news contributor, emily compagno. foxy's correspondent, gillian turner. joining us in the center seat on the virtual couch, fox's political analyst and fox nation host, lawrence jones. you are cowboys won this week so i know automatically you're happy. >> lawrence: [laughs] >> harris: you got the size of the bill, almost 6,000 pages, and rand paul's way of working at it, you got the size of the bill, that price tag. >> lawrence: mm-hmm. well, lindsey graham was on site mike fox & friends this morning and he said this is how the sausage is made. this isn't sausage, this is baloney. it's a lot of gunk, everything from all the parts of the animal you don't like, you put it together and you get a slab. that's this bill. it's supposed to be so good. no one read this bill. the portions that i don't like, the fact that they continue to put all these backdoor deals,

funding of the smithsonian, see dan got some money, they want to build a library for roosevelt, and none of this, if you look at the core of the bill, it's going to help americans. my problem with the congresswoman as well as their representatives, they point out all the pork in the bill, but they go there and vote for the bill, which is why leadership continues to have the legislative process this way. because they put people on a time crunch and then people that don't vote for the bill are told they don't care about people. well, you tell me how this bill is going to make life better for a lot of americans. i don't think so. >> harris: i'm from the south, so i put mayonnaise on everything. i would add that. [laughs] to the baloney you're making. kennedy, you know what is so complicated and all of this? when they gave us the abbreviated version, it was still hundred 92 pages. i just wonder what is in the

bill that we don't even know about yet. you heard those things enumerated, lawrence doesn't like for this particular bill, because it has nothing to do with what the accomplishment or the goals were. but goodness, i wonder what else is in it. >> kennedy: this is an outrage. for the five republican senators who voted against it, including senators mike lee and rand paul, marsha blackburn, ron johnson, and ted cruz, good for you. you shouldn't vote for something you are completely ignorant of, and it is unconscionable that they would be given two hours to read 5500 pages of legislative text. with that kind of a price tag, and the fact that you don't know what's in it. you don't know the unintended consequences of what they just passed. remember when republicans went after nancy pelosi right before they passed obamacare saying, "we can read it after we pass it?" that's the wrong way of doing

things! shoot first, aim later. that's how bad and tragic things happen. good for rand paul for making that speech, and he is absolutely right. if you are against socialism, you shouldn't vote for something like this, that you are blind to. that was legislated in secret with this kind of price tag. >> harris: they had eight months, gillian. i don't know of many people who can keep an 8-month secret. >> gillian: that's exactly right. >> harris: it's just an enormous amount of time, and then to be bumped up against that deadline by midnight yesterday, just... i don't know. >> gillian: harris, i cannot agree with you more. if you look at this from alexandria ocasio-cortez and ted cruz's perspective, this was a rush, slapdash legislating process. if you look at it from the perspective of most ordinary americans, they had eight months, and during those eight months they failed over and over

again to deliver. i think most americans who have lost jobs, homes, loved ones to this pandemic, they are going to be hard pressed to gin up sympathy for lawmakers now complaining about the process on the tail end of this thing. >> harris: yeah. i mean, emily, just crunching the numbers, when you look at the amount of people who have died from the very thing this bill is supposed to help, you've got the coronavirus victims who have passed away because of the disease, but also the businesses that will never come back. the livelihoods, the evictions that have happened, the disruption of life, the things that the relief bill was supposed to help. i mean, it makes you wonder, is there money just dripping at the bottom of the swamp that they were digging for? what happened? >> emily: that's what these lawmakers are acting like. the entire thing is frightening, and i echo all the comments here as well as the sentiments he been referencing in the beginning of the block. this is a spending monstrosity,

like senator paul said. it is absurd, like senator cruz said. and it is not governance, like congresswoman o cassio cortes said. but what choice did they have? americans need help now. to all of your points, this $600 now could have been much more months ago. but now it is barnacled to thousands of pages worth of the fruits of lobbyist access. that is the reality. now these lawmakers are congratulating themselves and enjoying the holidays, i'm sure, while these local leaders continue castrating the economy and the small businesses. to your point, harris, these guys shouldn't be allowed to go home. they should stand there and read out every page so we can hear what's in it, and i want to hear them defend it. to your question, harris, we don't know what's in it. that's the most frightening part. >> gillian: one of the things we know is not in this bill is the mandated sick leave. that means millions of americans who believe they might have coronavirus or know that they have covid-19 are going to be less inclined to stay home from

work if they feel able to carry out their responsibilities. >> harris: you know, i just have to ask why, lawrence. the way emily described it was so rich with detail. "barnacled," that $600. you talk about the other areas. the smithsonian, they are not saying those aren't viable things, but they can pass that in a different type of deal. we are talking about helping people now. why? >> lawrence: just give us a clean bill. isn't that what we were talking about from the very beginning? it's not that i have any sympathy for congress. to be frank, this is how they do business in general. the bottom line is this -- people are at their breaking point. this comes on the heels of more lockdowns. it's like a repeat effect. people started trying to open up a little bit more, and they reimpose these lockdowns, so people are starting over again. remember, also when people talk about -- when the governess

decided that they weren't going to have these evictions, these people still have to pay their rent back. this is still one more step, one more layer. all the family members, and us, that are supposedly essential workers that have been giving to families and giving to friends, the money is gone. it's gone. we have no more to give to family members, because we pick a different family member every single month, and the money is gone. >> harris: wow. okay, we'll move on from there. republicans renewing their calls for a special counsel to investigate hunter biden's business dealings, despite attorney general barr's decision not to appoint a special counsel. the new developments, just ahead. and protesters clashing with police and storming the state capital in oregon over the covid-19 lockdowns there. saying their constitutional

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♪ >> harris: tensions are running high at a rally at the oregon state capital amid growing outrage over the latest round of covid lockdowns. >> shame on you!

>> harris: police used pepper balls to disperse antilock down protesters yesterday, after police officers say they were pepper sprayed. protesters were demanding lawmakers allow businesses to reopen, as those lawmakers met inside. demonstrators even tried forcing their way into the state capit capitol. >> nothing's happening. >> harris: you can see the protesters banging into and kicking the door to the statehouse, following violent standoffs with police which led to the arrests of at least four people. some protesters managed to get inside the capitol building before they were kicked out. here's one protester. >> there shutting every thing down. they're shutting down on the mom-and-pop stores. you haven't seen anything yet. this is going to explode.

>> harris: emily, i first want to talk about the legalities of all of that. we can see the frustration. there are two things at play here that i can see. people willing to do whatever is necessary to protect what they see as breaking the law and their rights. >> emily: that's exactly right. we've seen an measure of lawsuits that were brought to the courts, but i think what we are seeing here is people acknowledging outwardly that those decisions haven't been enough. that they are not in their favor and they haven't been enough to overturn these decisions being made by their elected officials. just to be clear, this is an extension of our conversation earlier about the stimulus bill. all this stuff is tied together. contrary to what the oregonian published, these guys aren't there appearing to oppose certain policies, it was said, of certain businesses being close to slow the spread of coronavirus.

these guys are here protesting their economic death and the entire extinction end of their livelihoods. who can blame them? i'm not an advocate for violence, but it seems to me i'm not going to demonize their purpose here. how can you argue with this? these elected officials are rendering these knee-jerk decisions without the basis of scientific evidence, and they are incompetently doing so. they are massively harmful effects. this isn't ten months ago where this virus emerged and they are triaging. we have the benefit of evidence, and these guys are suffering for it. >> harris: you know, lawrence, when you look at these pictures, we have seen protesting across the country for different reasons for months with people willing to do things that look like they are law-breaking. what would you say to her about these protesters? as emily said, they've been left no other course, but it does complicate your argument when you show up and it gets chippy the way we've seen it there at the doorway. >> lawrence: well, you know,

the gun-carrying doesn't bother me. i'm in texas right now at home, and everybody has a gun on them. but i do believe there is a level of responsibility that you have to carry when carrying a firearm, because you are carrying a weapon. that being said, the frustration israel. i remember being on the airwaves telling people that they really weren't going to open up this government until a vaccine came out. i was told i was fearmongering, that i wasn't a part of the solution, i was part of the problem. but here we are. they only talk about opening up businesses and restaurants, despite the data, especially in new york, saying it only accounts for 1.3% of the spread, based on our own contact tracing. that is where we are. they are not going to fully open this government until this

vaccine is widely distributed. that is pathetic. as i went on a rant before saying people don't have any money left to give to their family members, guess what? they shouldn't have to right n now. we know a little bit more about this virus then we knew when it first started. the fact is there are waves to this virus. we got it under control. the moment people started going back to work and started going back to school and seeing loved ones, it starts to spread some more. but we have to deal with it. >> harris: by the way, i didn't call it a rant, i thought it was a heart-call you are making. it was profound. gillian, how do you go forth if we really do have to wait for a vaccine? it's not going to be tomorrow. it's not going to be next month. it's going to be months away before we have enough americans vaccinated, according to all the experts, the epidemiologists like dr. fauci. >> gillian: "the new york times" app told me last week i'm approximately in

line to get the vaccine after about 267 million other americans. so my wait is going to be especially long, i'm totally okay with that. a note about these protesters, these are not people fighting in oregon for expanded rights and expansion of their civil liberties. they are not fighting for the destruction of government and anarchy as he seen other protesters in the country do this year. these are americans that are fighting for restoration of some very fundamental, basic rights, like their right to carry out the jobs that they've been hired to do. their rights to not have to shut down their businesses, their rights to be able to send their children to school. i think it's important we keep that in mind here when we look at this. that said, i'm with emily, the violence rests against federal authorities are never okay come put on a check up protests in the coronavirus era, the cut to distinguish between what people are getting at.

>> harris: very interesting point. kennedy, i chose to come to you last because i know how well you know the state of oregon. >> kennedy: and spent some time in that capitol in high school. it was fun. not so fun now, but i blame a lot of this on the net list wonder, ted wheeler, the mayor of portland, and the multnomah county d.a. who is not charging violent offenders. we have to look at the nt for protests and the red house issue in portland. they know that as long as you overrun the police, it doesn't matter what you break or who you hurt. if you are protesting, it's completely illegal and you'll be given space to do that. all these people have done is internalize what they've seen all summer. and yes, they have kept oregon weird. well done. >> harris: think about the people we have lost to covid-19. 213 police officers, according

to the fraternal order of police just today, tallying that number up over the year. when you think about that, you wonder what would really honor them. wouldn't that be getting it together enough such that we don't also hurt people that may never recover economically? it's just a question. well, we are learning prison inmates in one state will be among the first to get the coronavirus vaccine ahead of senior citizens and others in high-risk groups. does that sound fair to you? the debate you don't want to miss. and why the calls for special counsel to investigate hunter biden's business dealings are growing, despite attorney general barr's decision not to appoint a special counsel. ♪ if these beautiful idaho potato recipes are just side dishes,

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currently within the department, and to this point i have not seen the reason to appoint a special counsel. i have no plan to do so before i leave. >> kennedy: he's leaving real soon. it's about to get interesting. republicans renewing their calls for a special counsel to probe hunter biden's web of business dealings after attorney general bill bai says he sees no need to appoint one. that, in his final news conference. while he says he respects his judgment, senator tom cotton says what he thinks a special counsel is needed. watch. >> from the outside looking in, you either have a situation where donald trump's department of justice is investigating the son of his opponent, or joe biden's department of justice is investigating his son. for many americans, that is not a tenable situation. a special counsel could bring independent of judgment to the matter in a way that would make people more confident these

investigations are being handled appropriately. >> kennedy: meantime, many former intelligence officials are signing by an open letter they signed speculating russia was behind reports of hunter biden trading under his father's name. that despite the news that federal prosecutors have been investigating hunter and his associates since 2018. according to their part in the national review, which reached out to all 51 of the former officials. lawrence, they all signed this open letter, but they had to clarify, because it seemed like what they were saying was this is disinformation made up by the russians, and now it could be a case of information that russia was just trying to help get out there with a little bit more efficiency. we do see this going? >> lawrence: whenever this information these guys don't like, or the political establishment, they blame for actors. it is true that foreign actors

are always involved. whenever they see disarray, they can involved. there is a lot of credibility to the story. you may know how it's going to pan out? no, we don't pay but i have a few suggestions. i think this is going to get very messy. i am one that is against a lot of special counsel, because i think it gets so bloated and we never see the end of it. they get a lot of money from us as taxpayers, and i think just having a basic u.s. attorney do it, we can get a lot of results. if joe biden is not going to allow a special counsel to come up once he is sworn in, i don't think he should confirm his ag appointee, and let rosen stay in as the deputy attorney general to oversee this. i think this is the only way we get something done. if you appoint a special counsel, or he should be able to say is the deputy attorney general to oversee this investigation. >> gillian: did you just call u.s. attorney's basic [laughter]

>> lawrence: you know. >> kennedy: some of them are. it's appropriate. what do we need, emily? what are the necessary elements to launch a special counsel investigation, and are we there yet based on what we now? >> emily: there would be a perceived or actual conflict of interest. i think the counterargument is, at this point, it is hunter that is in the sights, not president-elect joe biden. however, i agree obviously with senator cotton's point, and i think the reason why it's so important here is in part because we have had nothing from the president-elect. i think a statement by him would certainly go a long way in the form of leadership and acknowledgment if he says there is these investigations going on, and stand reassured the existing u.s. attorneys will remain in their post, they will maintain a neutral objective investigation, and that coupled with actually responsibility by the press might go a long way. no wonder everyone is clamoring for a special counsel. we do not trust the objectivity

of this. we see that it is in the american's best interest to have this reserved judgment here, and an objective platform. >> kennedy: that's a really good point, gillian. that's one of the best cases i've heard, the lack of objectivity. it's not necessarily corruption, but how could you possibly be expected to launch into an investigation like this against your own son, when your president of the united states? who also, by the way, has the power to pardon hunter. gillian? >> gillian: it was a good point paid once in a while, emily has something decent to say. [laughter] >> harris: wow! >> gillian: that's a joke. i love emily. her legal analysis is the best! [laughter] that was a good point, kennedy, that this whole issue, the story now is crowded out by legislators on both sides of the aisle. democrats ignoring it, republicans saying swalwell is a

criminal, he had an affair with this one based on no evidence, it's clouded by politics. at its core, it's an intelligence matter. i said yesterday on the show that i think the house intelligence committee should be investigating this. put aside where we are going with the special counsel, maybe it's coming in the future, maybe it's not. but the house dominic house ethics committee is looking at this. i think that exemplifies the lens through which congress is looking at this. this is not about swalwell decisions only, this is a bigger issue that is about influence from china, influence-pedaling in the united states directly in our political system. >> kennedy: wouldn't it be wacky to have eric swalwell on a committee looking into hunter biden's china shenanigans? it's a strange world. harris is going to take over. much more on the other side of this week. a "washington post" cartoon attacking republicans accused of going too far, after it shows a

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>> harris: "the washington post" is under fire for a cartoon comparing republicans to rats. the cartoon names all state attorneys general and members of congress who "collaborated with president trump in his attempt to subvert the constitution and stay in office." by challenging the election results. former congressman jason chaffetz, i meant dominic among many reacting to the content with discuss. speak of the hate, rage, and anti-trump psychosis being dired toward republicans is hitting new lows. this is what we've come to

expect from the new extreme rage-filled left, spewing endless hate and personal attacks against those who dare to call out their rampant hypocrisy, and outright lies and misinformation. >> harris: our jason chaffetz was filling in for sean hannity at that time. meanwhile, cnn's brian seltzer sent a portion of his sunday show arguing americans are being radicalized by right-wing media in the same way ice is radicalized as its followers. >> this is a process, radicalization. it often comes it in the context of terrorism. that is usually the context you have that word. the best road to what's happening in america right now is radicalization pay that's what this is paid that's what this right-wing media machine is doing. >> harris: wow. republicans like isis? is at the short line there, lawrence? >> lawrence: i'm glad they're finally going out there and

telling us how they really feel. but it still is just disgusting to see them do this. this is the same people that, under a donald trump administration, have say we need to fix the town and the tenor and get back to the old days, and they do the same type of stuff. i don't remember the president ever calling someone and relating them to isis. i do think this is part of a larger point. a lot of people feel this way. when i was on the campaign trail talking with voters, they believe the media is against them because of things like this. how can you cover national politics and what's happening in the world and fight for those people at home when you despise them? i think that is why they found a fighter and donald trump. where they see fighters, that when people say "right-wing media," who listen to the concerns and cover it. i do agree some of these stations go a bit too far.

i believe a lot of it can sometimes be conspiracies. but to say that this is like isis, i think that's too fire. >> harris: emily, is what you're looking at on the screen, some of the words that have been said, free speech? >> emily: of course, absolutely. but it doesn't make it less despicable. this is an opportunity like our last conversation for the president-elect to step in and be a leader, for him to step up and say "enough of this," his colleagues and the people who voted for him. on november 7th he said it's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, to stop treating your opponents as enemies. we are all americans. the vice president elect on that same day said, "by voting for us, you have chosen unity and decency." either those words were directed just at republicans where they were hollow, or there's an opportunity for them to back what they had said, back what they had maintained and campaigned on, and actually walk

the talk. >> harris: kennedy, it is free speech. as you hearing emily say, is it wise free speech when it has a ton of hypocrisy to? >> kennedy: no. hypocrisy and free speech are two different things. we have to protect even abhorrent, simplistic, overly busy, unreadable free speech, as unpopular as it might be. back to brian stelter, i'm going to steal a line from stephen miller. taters gonna tater. he might be the most despicable analysis analyst in the history of media analysis. he's not just ham-fisted, he is ham-headed. >> harris: we have had taters, bologna, and mail on the show. gillian, i come to you to put a bow on it.

>> gillian: i don't know what the real is to say about the coverage of the cartoon other than it is despicable. remember, it was just last week at the president-elect's campaign manager, is going to be his deputy chief of staff and the new white house, called all republicans the expletive represented by the m.f. acumen. we are not seeing the return to rhetorical decency that has been promised. >> harris: i wish she had cleaned up the way you did! i almost didn't recognize what the word was peer that was great [laughter] >> harris: you did a good job. prison inmates in some states would be reportedly among the first in line to get the covid-19 vaccine ahead of senior citizens and others in high-risk groups. is that fair? the debate, next. ♪

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>> harris: how do you feel about this? growing criticism now as prison inmates in massachusetts reportedly will be given priority in getting the covid-19 vaccine as outbreaks are rising. "the new york times" reports tens of thousands of prisoners will receive the vaccine before senior citizens.

dominic, home health aides, and medically vulnerable state resi. ahead of the state vaccine advisory group says this. we use equity as a core principle in our recommendation. we have had a lot of cases of covid in the prisons, and we wanted to make sure those at highest risk for getting the vaccine first." emily, i understand your temperature is a bit above a thousand on this. >> emily: [laughs] well, harris, i just like to paint a landscape review is her. prisons and jails are like hospitals and that they are total institutions. the population lives there full-time, and a communing population goes in and out. social distancing isn't really possible. prisoners right now in this country are four times as likely to get covid and twice as likely to die from it. 93% of them will eventually be let back into society. the correction officers, execution teams, 14 out of the

50 federal death row inmates, it's important to acknowledge all of these statistics, because thus far the answer has been ordered some judges saying, "let them out into population." the health and safety is to the general population, there has to be a way to manage this thoughtfully inside the prisons and jails while also maintaining inmate dignity and constitutional compliance. by the way, the national guard is now stepping in for those correctional officers that get covid. they are doing everything from patrolling the outside of the grounds and bring in food, maintaining the health of prisoners, but they also now doing guard duty. in ohio, for example, just one day of training. none of this is acceptable, but all of this needs to be part of the larger conversation when we evaluate that, yes, these inmates deserve our compassion and the recognition that it would behoove us to vaccinate them. >> harris: my question now goes back to the general in charge who has admitted that he made some mistakes, lawrence, in

the beginning, and terms of figuring out the kind of numbers and places he was going to put vaccines. it is leadership to admit you made a wrong, but i want to know which batch of the politician politicians -- she's got another batch, and emily laid it out. that was amazing. >> lawrence: brilliant. it's beyond that my goodness, when are we going to save the senior's connective paid such a high price and all of do we have enough this first go round? >> lawrence: it seems like terrible planning. but look, to be fair, it was always going to be this way. everyone wants the shot. i've been willing to throw my hand up and say, "give it to the seniors." i've had covid come i didn't experience any symptoms. a lot of us young people i willing to say let's take care of grandma or grandpa. but emily's point, i think when we look at this story when it comes to the prisoners, it becomes an emotional debate because you see these people committed a crime. but you also have to understand

that, in these prison populations, these jails, emily laid out the numbers. they are in the custody of the state. that means the state is responsible for their health. if something goes wrong, expect those family members to sue the state. honestly, by the numbers that emily just highlighted, there will be a great lawsuit, and i guarantee you there will be a case for them to win in court. >> harris: interesting. gillian? >> gillian: i agree with lawrence and emily. it's a complicated issue. we all know, as he said, harris, the top-tier priority in this country is the elderly. people who are over 65. if we are going to go based on the science, these are the people who are the highest risk. there is a strong case to be made for protecting people who are incarcerated, because, as lawrence points out, the state is responsible for them. the state will likewise be

responsible for their death if large numbers of them continue to die from covid, which we see not just here in this case we are discussing, but truly nationwide. from washington, d.c., to california, this is happening everywhere. it's terrible. i think we can somewhere afford, from one batch, a few thousand to protect these people. >> harris: by the way, that aid to the cdc put out yesterday is 75 and up, for those high risk in terms of age. new york governor andrew cuomo says he thinks he's done a great job this year and says santa is sure going to treat him well. i know now... what? is that delusion? i don't know. but do the new yorkers who lost their businesses and even loved ones, some of the seniors i was talking about in those nursing homes, remember that decision? do they agree? ♪ research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance,

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>> so, healthy holiday, and i'm going to have a great one. santa is going to be very good to me, i can tell. i worked hard this year. >> kennedy: he is so full of hot wind. that is new york governor andrew, praising himself for his handling of the state's coronavirus response, despite the backlash, and even protests of his policies both earlier in the pandemic and more recently when he banned indoor dining for a second time in new york city. this year some 6400 businesses in new york state shut down for good, and tragically there were more than 7,500 coronavirus-related deaths in new york nursing homes, some blamed on the controversial, policy earlier in the pandemic, and cuomo is also facing sexual harassment allegations by a former aide. lawrence, i got a note from santa a little earlier, and he

is skipping the governor's mansion altogether. how do you like them apples? >> lawrence: [laughs] i agree with santa. you know, i think self-reflection is a good thing. i try to do my best to self-reflect. the guy just has no ability to do it. the nursing home situation, this scandal that has been investigated by the media now, the fact he say, "i'm sorry," but he continues to give himself a pat on the back. it's quite disgusting. when he managed to tick off janice dean, okay? i've never heard her say a bad word about anyone. because you let her loved ones die, and they're still been no accountability with his actions. so full of himself, i can't take

it. >> kennedy: and talking to her, she says every time the governor makes a statement like this it re-traumatizes every single family who has lost a loved one in a nursing home because of that policy. is there any legal recourse? >> emily: absolutely there is. no i say this all the time, anyone can sue. the question is whether they will be accountability here. to your point, of course it re-traumatizes them. in the beginning of the block, it speaks for itself. if you have any type of leadership, there is room for improvement with everyone we are talking about today. they can have a semblance of humility. if the press would hold him accountable and actually respond immediately, "actually, governor, we want to bring to your attention some statistics that are bothering us," let's get his response on that. this is what happens when you surround yourself by yes-men and aren't contracte confronted in r

supplement and public. >> kennedy: and those are targeted with campaigns and threats. final thoughts from you? >> gillian: i guess i would say to the governor that i wants had the best boss ever had. he is to say to me, "we are not going to measure your value at this company based on your output. what you do. we will measure your value on what you can actually achieve." the idea that government officials, whoever they are, are sitting back during this pandemic and saying, "well, gosh darn it, we deserve kudos because we've worked really hard," it's infuriating and also pretty useless. who cares that we work hard? a lot of americans work hard. a lot more americans weren't able to work at all, and they would have preferred if you have the opportunity to work real hard this year. speech even those people, the hardest hit, our mourning family members. thanks to everyone. lance, gillian, emily, a fine

shell had by all. now we can launch into the rest of the week. as you know, tomorrow is christmas eve eve. it's getting real. she's really fantastic, he is harris. >> harris: georgia officials taking action to protect election integrity. just two weeks away from those high stakes senate runoff races. "outnumbered overtime" now, i'm harris faulkner. the georgia secretary of state has sent letters to some 8,000 voters who requested out-of-state ballots, as the group "true the vote" challenges the residency of more than 264,000 voters. and the candidates are in and alall out push to reach their be with the control of the u.s. senate to be decided in georgia. former house speaker newt gingrich sets voter outreach is critical. >> it all depends on turn out. if every considered evidence and every moderate who does not want to see radical change tu