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have two beatles left. boy, have they made some good music. >> sandra: he's still doing great things! you'll be back here tomorrow? and i'm in for neil this afternoon. >> jon: i'll be watching. >> sandra: good stuff. thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> julie: we begin with a fox news alert, the senate expected to meet this hour after the house sided with president trump and voted to boost stimulus checks to $2,000. president trump now demanding senators do the same. the question is, will they? majority leader mitch mcconnell has remained silent on the measure thus far. minority leader chuck schumer says he will try to force a vote on the increase today. adding to all of that drama, senator bernie sanders is now saying he plans to filibuster a vote to override the president's veto of a huge defense bill until senators vote on the pay boost. he says in a statement,
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"mitch mcconnell wants to vote to override trump's veto of the $740 billion defense funding bill and head home for the new year? i'm going to object until we get a vote on legislation to provide a $2,000 direct payment to the working class. let me be clear -- if senator mcconnell doesn't agree to an up or down vote to provide the working people of our country a $2,000 direct payment, congress will not be going home for new year's eve. let's do our job." meantime, president trump appearing to voice his support for sanders' efforts on twitter, also posting this. "$2,000 for all gay people, not $600. they have suffered enough from the china virus." you are watching "outnumbered." i'm julie banderas. here today, fox news contributor lisa boothe, host of "no interruption" on fox nation fox nation. tomi lahren, host of "moms" on fox nation and fox news contributor.
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rachel campos-duffy, and joining us is retired bomb technician joey jones. always great to see you all. he is host of "fox nation outdoors," and a fox news contributor. thank you all, i sent a big virtual hug for coming on. [laughter] lisa, i will go to you first, regarding the fact that you got the president tweeting in support of bernie sanders. i mean, this is 2020, because i never thought i would see that. >> lisa: here's the thing about the $2,000 checks. i agree with it in principle, but when it's put into practice with the house bill, i don't agree with it. the reason why it is a family of five making $350,000 would see benefit from these $2,000 payments. almost 95% of americans would see some benefit from this stimulus check. what i think they should do is focus that income and those efforts on the individuals and the americans and the families have lost a large sum of money right now, who are truly struggling to pay their rent,
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truly struggling to pay their bills and put food on the table, rather than people who haven't been as impacted or haven't been impacted at all by the coronavirus. i agree with it in principle, but i think in practice, if not targeted, it isn't done directly. >> julie: tomi, has democrats seem poised to force republicans toward this too thousand dollar check. what do you think the senate is going to do? obviously it pass in the house. the senate is a different story here. mitch mcconnell has been relatively silent on this. do you think it's going to go? >> tomi: it's interesting how they're going head-to-head with the president. the merits of this, why it sounds nice, i agree that americans deserve more relief, this allowed frustration with this in its entirety. that there is so much pork, so much spending on other nations, the fact that even a dime of our taxpayer funds are going to the
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coronavirus relief bill, it's. i think it does need to be more targeted. i think we need to take a step back and realize it's not just the optics of handing people $2,000. in principle, how will this affect in the long run? are they really going to get it? i will say this because i see it every time we talk about it, the best stimulus you can give the american people is to allow them to go back to work, reopen their businesses, and make a living. most americans don't want $600, $1200, or $2,000. they want to work and earn their living. that, i think, should be allowed to part of the conversation instead of the direct payments and this bill altogether. >> julie: joey, obviously people want to go back to work. some people have no choice, because their jobs are furloughed and they don't have a job waiting for them. that especially as the group of people who need this money, for those that don't have a job to go to. this $2,000 check that americans so desperately need, the question now is will republicans decide with democrats once and for all before the end of the
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new year? >> joey: i don't think they have much of a choice. i don't think mitch mcconnell are the republicans in the senate -- i just don't know that they can survive very long, or, quite frankly, the two senators running for reelection in my state will survive very long if they vote against this in the 11th hour. the timing on both this covid/omnibus relief bill, where nancy pelosi i guess is playing more chess than checkers, there's not much opportunity for the president will republicans to push back. how can republicans vote on a bill in a few days later vote to support the president's veto? that wouldn't work. now it's kind of the same thing. they are put between a rock and a hard place. if you are a conservative by principle, you believe in fiscal responsibility and don't believe you can spend your way out of a crisis, maybe you have the principle to not bill for this. but that would be incredibly unpopular. to the american sitting at home
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with all the fiscal responsibility in the world, they need money and they need to be able to make it through. they say that we are in the last days or weeks with the pandemic, with the vaccine. if that's truly true, they need some sort of money to stay home however much longer they need to. i really don't see how the republicans have much of an argument here. >> julie: rachel, bernie sanders tweeted, "mcconnell wants to vote to override the veto and had him for the new year," but he wrote, "i'm going to object until we get a vote on legislation to provide a direct payment to the working class." what do you make of that stall tactic? to think that is going to work with mcconnell or is that further going to incense him? >> rachel: i think it might work. i don't know how it's going to end up. you asked that question to all the people in the panel here, i don't know what mitch mcconnell is going to do. he's kind of a tricky guy. he usually has something up his sleeve. i agree with tomi lahren, ronald reagan said the best social program is a job.
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people are concerned these checks going out to people might actually take some of the pressure off of these democratic governors to open up their states, because what people want more than $2,000, which i'm sure some people really need, is a job, open this economy up. lisa is also right, this needs to be more targeted. government workers who are potentially health inspectors, who have been shutting down restaurants, who never missed a paycheck since the pandemic started, are going to get $2,000. just like the waitresses in the restaurants that are shutting down who haven't been working are going to get $2,000. that doesn't seem fair, it doesn't seem just. it seems like more stupid government that we can't target this. it's a covid relief bill, it should go to people who have been negatively impacted by the lockdown that the government has imposed on her people, preventing them from making a living. >> julie: senator mitch mcconnell right now on the senate floor, speaking about schumer's plan to
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call for a vote on the $2,000 stimulus checks. let's listen. okay, he is not speaking. he was speaking. essentially, the bottom line here is that chuck schumer plans on trying to force the hands of the republicans. the conservative fiscal or republicans, especially, that are going to look at this multitrillion dollar budget deficit that our country is facing, the trillion dollar budget deficit, and say to themselves, "$2,000 per u.s. citizen is not enough." remember, there's also $740 billion in this federal bill they want to pass in order to give billions of dollars in foreign aid. tomi, i'll go to you. he talked about pork just earlier. lumping these two together, first of all, was a move that house democrats began. that was the whole reason why the president stalled and didn't want to sign this, he didn't want the two lumped together.
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why not worry about the american people first and go to the foreign governments last? i will move to mitch mcconnell, he is speaking again, then i'll have you react. >> yesterday, a bipartisan super majority in the house voted to re-approve the congress report of this must-pass legislation. today the senate will set up a final vote for tomorrow, wednesday, for this chamber to follow suit. soon, this important legislation will be passed under law. president trump has rightly noted they see his defense bill does not contain every provision that we republicans would have wanted. i am confident our democratic colleagues feel the same way. if that is the case but that is a case every year. yet, for consecutive years and counting, washington has put our differences aside, found common ground, and pass the annual defense bill. not once in six decades has a congress let its differences prevent it from completing this work for our national security and our men and women who wear
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the uniform. this year's nda will continue our momentum in rebuilding and modernizing armed forces, we will authorize the personnel equipment, tools, and training we need to reinforce the national defense strategy, and to deteriorate great power rivals like china and russia. our advantage in the sea, on land, in the air, and cyberspace, and in space. in the bill will help us continue to recruit, retain, and support the men and women who keep us safe. it provides a pay raise for the troops, improvements for military housing, child care, and more. madam president, for the brave men and women of the united states armed forces, failure is simply not an option. when it is our turn in congress to have our backs, failure is not an option, either. i would urge my colleagues to support this legislation one more time when we vote tomorrow.
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on another matter, on sunday president trump signed into law and other historic bipartisan rescue package. it will provide major support to american families through what we hope will be the home stretch of our fight with the coronavirus. congressional republicans, congressional democrats, and president trump senior team had all work together to past assistance to the people who need it most. this new law will set up a targeted second round of paycheck protection to save jobs. it will renew and continue federal programs that have helped laid-off workers endure the crisis, and it'll send more cash to households, invest millions and vaccines distribution, so the success of operation warp speed kills the pandemic as fast as possible, and much more. this bipartisan compromise was our shot at getting help to working families on the urgent timeline that they need. once again, i want to applaud president trump for signing the bill and getting this much-needed assistance into the
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pipeline. during this process, the president highlighted three additional issues of national significance that he would like to see congress tackle together. first, as he explained, the president would like further direct financial support for american households. second, the growing willingness on both sides of the aisle to at least re-examine the special legal protections afforded to technology companies under section 230 of the communications decency act, including the ways it benefits some of the most prosperous, most powerful big tech firms. the third subject, since every american, regardless of their politics, should feel the integrity of our democracy is beyond reproach, is exploring further ways to protect the sanctity of america's ballots while continuing to respect the federal government's limited role in standing behind state and local governments who actually run elections. those are the three important subjects the president has linked together.
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this week the senate will begin a process to bring these three priorities into focus. i moved to proceed to calendar number 480s3985. speak of the clerk will report. stick a motion to proceed, the bill to improve and reform policing practices, accountability, and transparency. >> unanimous consent, that file income the leader remarks on wednesday, december 30th, the time be equally divided between the proponents and opponents of the bill, with the opponent time being controlled by senator paul or his designate. further, upon the use or yield of that time, the senate will pass the bill. the objections of the president to the contrary notwithstanding. finally, if passed, the motion to reconsider being made and lay upon the table with no intervening action or debate. >> is the objection?
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>> object. speak of the democratic leader >> thank you, madam president. the senate is here this week for a rare holiday session to address two major issues. the president's veto of the annual defense bill -- >> julie: we watch as they continue to tackle several things here. the question on whether or not the coveted stimulus check increases from 600 to $2,000, and of course also the national defense bill, which the senate majority leader there, mitch mcconnell, had just basically teed up the vote to override the veto on the $740 billion national defense authorization act, which the house voted, by the way, to override on monday in a 322-87 vote. the president, as we know, vetoed the ndaa, wanting to eliminate the billions of dollars in pork going to foreign aid, but it doesn't look like senate republicans are going to be siding with the president on
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this one. tomi, what say you on that? mitch mcconnell seems adamant that this is going to be voted on today. the question is, do they then immediately move forward into voting for the stimulus package, meaning the $2,000 checks, or do they go away for new year's and do this in 2021? >> tomi: well, given the way congress usually operates, i think they're going to want to go home for new year's. as we know, they are not going to miss a holiday or vacation for themselves. i could be wrong, but that's what history has told us. they seem to value their time. going back to that money and foreign aid, i think most americans, when we listen to what's going on on the senate floor, the applaud the spending bill, released to americans, we know we need an omnibus spending bill to fund the government, but the average american is sitting on right now unable to go to work or maybe being able to go to work for limited hours with limited capacity, being restricted infringe upon upon time at democratic governors and mayors, and they are wondering why the sending any money. one single dime come over to
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another country, to help them with their people, with their pakistani gender studies. while we are counting fish in hatcheries. there are so many americans right now who sit outside of what's going on in the swab and are wondering, "where is our relief?" the better question, why are these congressional leaders not standing up for us, standing up to governors and mayors and telling them to reopen our economies connect let us go back to it, stop sending our hard-earned dollars overseas, and let's put america first once and for all. this shouldn't be this president's motto, the model for all of our leaders. i wish it was so. >> julie: lisa, i want to give you the final word on this and we have to move on. >> lisa: i will say the ndaa was always a safe veto because the numbers were there in the house and senate to override that veto with the vote and they will have the numbers to do it again. it's also important to point out, with the coronavirus aspect, the coronavirus relief, we also have an employment benefits that are built in there for individuals who have lost
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their jobs, as well as additional money going to pp ppp. people unable to work because of the government, because state and local governments are shutting them down, preventing them to have the ability to put food on the table for their families, and also ppe for schools so parents can get back to work, as well. there is some good in that coronavirus relief package, but i agree with the overall spending bill, that it was attached to. we shouldn't be focusing on foreign countries right now, regardless of if it's an overall spending bill. the focus should be on the american people. >> julie: well said, absolutely. panel, stand by. just ahead, former u.s. ambassador nikki haley is out with a warning for america's future. why she says 2020 was the year socialism went mainstream. plus, democrats designing for those two senate seats, those all-important senate seats in the runoff election in georgia.
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coming up right around the corner, reportedly growing worries about the race. when an internal memo from a campaign manager reportedly revealed. and nashville police releasing new body cam footage from the christmas day bombing, showing police officers racing to save lives just moments before the explosion. a dramatic story, next.
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>> julie: former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley, taking to twitter yesterday to warn that socialism is on the rise in america. she tweeted, "20/20 was the year socialism went mainstream. the dangerous ideology which has
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failed everywhere it has been tried, and ruined countless lives, and is on its way to becoming the default economic policy of the democratic party. this terrifying trend threatens the future of every american." she has carried that message with her, by the way, while campaigning for republican senators kelly loeffler and david perdue, and the critical georgia senate runoff. they say they are the last line of defense against a socialist agenda. watch. >> our closing statement is to get out and vote. the future of the country is on the ballot here in georgia. we are the battleground, the firewall for stopping socialism. >> they want to open borders, defund the police, they want illegal immigrants to vote. they want to defund our military, as well, and give us the green new deal in addition to socializing a medical system. this is an aggressive liberal plan. >> julie: all right, welcome back our panel now. tomi, i want to go to you. according to financial
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disclosure forms, warnock and ossoff both raise more than $100 million over the past two months, out raising their republican opponents, senators david perdue and kelly loeffler. and by a significant margin, i should add. g.o.p. outside groups are outspending democratic groups, so it's not that they haven't raised enough money, it's that they have been overspending. what does that say about a campaign that doesn't know how to budget? >> tomi: well, it's not just a campaign. that's the democratic party as a whole. that the left as a whole. although stark warnings the american people and the people of georgia, nikki haley is exactly right. this is a firewall against socialism. don't forget the democrats have spent all the campaign season talking about coronavirus, blm, and social justice. they largely abandoned what was their agenda they talked about all throughout the democratic debates, which was the green new deal. which was open borders, which was socialized medicine. all those things, they stood on that stage and advocated for
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them and they were so excited, and how they have largely kept quiet because they know it didn't play well with a lot of americans. they are going to bring that back as soon as they have the opportunity. that's why it's so important we win georgia and we stave that off. >> julie: rachel, i want to ask you, the party perform poorly in down ballot races. after that, senate minority leader chuck schumer of new york is reportedly quoted as saying that he is no longer meeting with donors. in fact, they are quoting a source, and bc is. nbc news is saying that schumer is "pessimistic" about warnock's and ossoff's chances next week and doesn't want to ruin donor relationships. she may spokesperson did not like that. he came out and said that's actually not true, this not a source doesn't know what they're talking about them even called nbc responsible for reporting on it. adding that schumer has diligently made calls and fund raise for both candidates and is optimistic about their chances in january. what story do you believe? >> rachel: i really don't know. i don't think any more money is
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going to make a difference. jon ossoff has raised more money than any other candidate in senate history, so there is plenty of money to go around. this is now about getting the vote out. republicans seem to be doing pretty well. they generally vote on election day, so democrats are clearly ahead in the early voting, but republicans are getting more early votes now than they did in the general election. they are doing pretty good. i think things look pretty good for the republicans. nikki haley is absolutely right. all the craziness, the socialism, the communism, the radicalism from the campus, has moved to congress. aoc and this god is bigger and more powerful, they will be in this next congress. warnock is probably the most radical person to run for senate. i think is to the left of kamala harris, which is saying something. this is the way to put some breaks on socialism by taking
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control, by republicans taking control of the senate. if they really want to stop socialism, they have to go back to the universities. conservatives need to take back our schools from the marxists who are running it, both at the elementary and secondary level and at the college level. that is why we are getting aoc. she was indoctrinated in these institutions, and that's why republicans and conservatives need to start if they want to do, as nikki haley says, start making the case for capitalism. >> julie: joey, nikki haley also wrote its "on its way to becoming the default economic policy of the democratic party," regarding socialism. "this terrifying tren transcende future of every american." she also said that now is the time to renew the factor capitalism she calling biden a socialist? >> joey: i think we need to keep in mind here, if the pandemic has taught us anything, a lot of small business owners have set aside some of their political views to see how badly
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the government can impact how they make their money. i don't think socialism is more popular, i think people are desperate in some cases. some of those people are desperate to go out and partake in capitalism. as the one georgian here today, let me tell you that down here in georgia we care about things like gun rights, religious freedom, we care about things like tax cuts, a free and open economy, and i think republicans can make a surge here. these candidates are just unpopular in and of themselves. they are not great candidates, but i think republicans will show up on election day. if perdue and loeffler keep at it and partake in this rally, i think they will win. >> julie: i know you are dying to jump in, just make it quick. >> lisa: real quick, we are at a really dangerous juncture in the country when we have a liberal governor depriving americans of rights, taking away americans' rights, while simultaneously you have a party that is embracing socialist policies. whether it's the green new deal, medicare for all, the list goes
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on. when you put that combination together, americans need to wake up and see the threat from the left and see the threat of the rise of socialism in the country. >> julie: al all right, stand b, panel. we i backe are back after this e from the christmas day bombing, showing how police officers raced to save lives as the bomb takes down. and the defund the police movement is growing in popularity on the left. but i they being honest about policing in america? the op-ed that debunks the myth, next. musical music so you want to make the best burger ever? then make it! that means selling everything. and eating nothing but cheese till you find the perfect slice... even if everyone asks you... another burger truck? don't listen to them! that means cooking day and night until you get... [ ding ] you got paid! that means adding people to the payroll. hi mom. that means... best burger ever. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll,
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>> julie: we are getting a first look at new photos and dramatic new body cam video from the nashville christmas day bombing. the video showing how the space police officers raced to save lives just moments before the potentially deadly explosion. charles watson's live in nashville with more. this story gets more dramatic by
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the day. >> that's right, julie. as you mentioned, we are getting a look at body cam video from one of the nashville police officers who hurried to evacuate residents moments before that massive rv explosion here in downtown nashville, and the dramatic video, you see the officer moving past 63-year-old suspect anthony quinn warner's rv as an eerie recording warned people to clear the area. 2-3 minutes later, the rv explodes into a ball of flames. >> [explosion] >> [radio chatter] [conor lamb] >> officers rushed to the blast site, as they try to get stun residents to safety.
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>> where is your car? otr car ! >> the associated press reporting that warner told a neighbor days before the explosion that "nashville and the world is never going to forget me." the fbi's reportedly looking into the idea that paranoia over 5g technology may have motivated warner to target an at&t data center that was damaged in the blast. julie, it is important to know that investigators have not yet publicly stated a motive in this case. they continue to search for answers. back to you. >> julie: charles watson, thank you. that video is just more evidence of the courage of our nation's police officers, despite the defund the police movement going. in a new yor "new york post" opd written by a police officer with 26 years on the force, points out what he calls four myths deserving of debunking. police are killing large numbers of civilians, the anti-cop
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movement is largely peaceful, abolishing police wouldn't lead to lawlessness, today's police are militarized. he writes it is all simply not true. joey, as remember, a former member of the military, you could not agree more, i would imagine. >> joey: i couldn't agree more. our police officers are heroes among us. i hate, as someone who served in the military, i get a lot of pats on the back end awards and a lot of hero worship, is what we call it, for going abroad and fighting the war. these first responders, my brother-in-law is a 25-your famine. they see this every day and never get to decide someone is a bad guy. they have to treat all of us like good guys and protect all of us. with those officers did come in nashville -- as a former bomb tech, but they did in nashville is what you do pay the first thing you do before someone can take immediate action as get people out of the way and away from the blast, away from the f.
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they put their own lives at risk to do it. i would hate to be the party calling for defending the police the day after that happened, because how much respect we have for them. >> julie: i hope the governors and local mayors -- hello, de blasio -- are watching and learning from all of this. if it hadn't been for those police officers, god only knows what would have happened. as far as the false myths, that police are militarized cannot come on. the only thing you can compare them to is that they are damn brave as hell to go on the streets and protect us from criminals knowing their own mayor doesn't support them, and allows them to be abused by criminals. lisa, watching the black lives matter protests here in new york city, and the mayor siding vandals and looters over police officers, was simply disgusting. using the money that is needed
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in these police departments to protect the public shouldn't even be questioned. sadly, i think still they are still not going to get it. >> lisa: it makes minority communities less safe, and it's not something that black americans want. when you look at the gallup polling, 81% of black americans what they police presence to stay the same or increased. it has real consequences, the demonization, the vilification of police officers, looking at minneapolis, minnesota, right now, they're having a problem solving the increased homicides that they are seeing in that city because they have 130 officers right now that are on extended leave or officers that have left the police force. they are actually having a problem right now solving these cases as they are seeing increased homicides. there is a real impact, and it makes community so much less safe. it's also just common sense, which blows my mind, that people can't see that easy correlation. >> julie: tomi?
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tomi? >> tomi: i'm here in nashville, so again i want to thank all of our nashville metro officers for everything they've done for our city. not just on christmas day but every single day. all of our officers. the defund the police movement is the dumbest thing to come out of the left and a long time, and that's really saying something. as julie said, i'd hate to be the party advocating for that, especially with everything going on in our country. our police officers are heroes, they are needed, necessary, underappreciated, but i want any of us are watching right now to know that the silent majority has your back. we appreciate you as you protect us, and thanks for all you do. steel and anyone who comes out and says the anti-cop movement has been peaceful obviously hasn't been watching the news in the past 12 months. the anti-cop movement has been nothing but violent and dangerous, and it's not only endangering our women and men of law enforcement come but also our communities nationwide. thank god for the nashville police department. praises to them. stan by, everybody. "the new york times" is under
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>> julie: "the new york times" accused of glorifying cancel culture after detailing a young man's vengeance on a former classmate. 18-year-old mimi lost her spot on the championship cheer team. she was forced to withdraw from her chosen college, her dream college, after a year's worth-old clip of her using a racial slur triggered a backlash. have leland vittert here to tell us the story. speak of the timing is important here, because the video of what was then a year's worth-old incident was posted in june.
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what is new in the word news here? she is a white cheerleader, and jimmy galligan comes from a mixed race family. they went to high school together. here's the timeline pay 2016, she recorded a 3-second video who used a racial slur and reference are getting a learner's permit for driving. in 2019, galligan saw the clip online. in 2020, he posted the video and she became the center of the social media firestorm. they took away her roster spot and she was withdrawn from the university. >> in what can only be described as a rush to judgment, the university of tennessee cayman in in a panic to a lot of hysteria, social media going on, and they didn't give her a meaningful investigation. >> so the times brought all of this back up with a long piece
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on saturday. here is how it ended, quoting galligan, now 18 or 19 years old. "i'm going to remind myself," he told the times, "you started something." he said with satisfaction you taught someone a lesson. she told the times she can't figure out how to convince people she is something different than the 32nd clip that was recorded when she was 15. >> julie: thank you very much. i want to go to our panel now. jimmy galligan, the guy who released the video, chose to do so obviously at the height of the black lives matter protests in june shortly after the death of george floyd. do you believe mimi groves was rightly punished, or was this all about bad timing? >> rachel: i feel so bad for her. my heart breaks for her, the trauma, the humiliation. i think it was made worse, maybe this was just a school thing, but it was made worse by the grown-ups in this story.
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"the new york times," for glorifying this, and for rescinding her admission. it's not a surprise to me. it's not even just students who live in fear of this kind of education, but talk to professors. they might get canceled, they might get fired. i'm glad that they are calling at "the new york times" and the university. as a culture we need to start to end this kind of scenario. none of us want to live in a world like this. >> julie: tomi, it makes sense to punish an adult who uses these kinds of words, but the girl was 15 years old at the time. this video was old. tomi, obviously the school caved to public pressure, which goes
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back to what the hell are the schools thinking? >> tomi: it's a failed attempt to cancel the cancel culture. i'm an absolutist, but this girl was 15 years old, she is more than what she said in a 3-second video, and i think it's important to understand the intent of her video. it wasn't to be racist, it wasn't to offend anyone. she said something stupid when she was 15 years old and that is her bad for doing so, are bad for posting it. reminding all young people, do not post things if you don't want it to live on the internet forever. at the end of the day, she's not racist. she doesn't deserve to have this brought up yet again, her life destroyed. this is enough. shame on "the new york times" and the university of tennessee for caving to this mob mentality. it's absolutely ridiculous. >> julie: someone under a certain age is called a minor for reason, they don't make adult decisions and should be treated as such. we have to move on. new york governor andrew, feeling the heat for his coronavirus restrictions. restaurant owners now taking the
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♪ >> lisa: with over a thousand restaurants closed in new york city due to coronavirus
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restrictions, restaurant owners are now saving mayor bill de blasio and new york governor andrew, well, they are calling for indoor dining to be restored after cuomo banned it again due to a rise in covid cases. joey, i'm going to start with you. why are governor cuomo and bill de blasio encouraging people to stay home when indoor gatherings are responsible for 74% of the spread? >> because they don't know what else to do. they literally have no answer, they've mismanaged this, especially de blasio. they don't know what else to do. the better comparison would be california and florida. almost the same climate. florida is doing well and california is barely holding on by a thread. maybe they should try something different. maybe new york should follow suit. >> lisa: rachel, we've enforced and a lot of these places to give up our liberties. restriction on churches, shutting down, preventing people from being able to earn a
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living, and to open their stories and/or restaurants. are we still a free country? >> i'm sending to question that. i've said from the beginning we need to come out of this pandemic as americans, more as americans than as chinese. i am really worried about the normalization of this kind of removal of our rights and liberties, our right to pursue happiness. if you're going to take away someone's right to worship or make a living, you better be darn sure that science is correct and we see the goalpost moving all the time. dr. fauci has been wrong on some very fundamental things with regard to this pandemic, and his influence, his advice, has an enormous impact. i think it's time for people to do exactly what they are doing. see you and demand answers. this lawsuit says show us the science and that's what needs to happen. >> lisa: do you think this lawsuit will see success? >> julie: it's hard to say. it should.
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if the lawyers are looking at facts, the politicians should be looking at facts. he mentioned the 74% of people getting contacted by covid in their homes. 1.4% of covid related cases are linked to restaurants, yet it's okay to leave jim's open? i can't understand it. in new york city alone, honestly, they have done such a tremendous job. i went out to dinner just last night and sat outside under a heat lamp. i was okay, and i was well beyond 6 feet away from other people. i am sadly not going to the gym these days, so i don't feel like i'm putting myself at risk they are. i'm just doing it for my safety. >> lisa: tomi, we don't have a ton of time, but i want to get your thoughts before we go. >> tomi: i think we will look back at this as an absolutely ridiculous time in our history. if you are scared, stay home. if you want to exercise a liberties coming do it safely and responsibly, you have every right to do it. time to reopen america.
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>> lisa: we will end on that. thanks to everyone for watching. julie is back after the break with "outnumbered overtime." stay with her. ♪ alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health.
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>> julie: fox news alert, the senate facing two key votes, one potentially boosting stimulus checks to $2,000, the other overriding the president's veto of the defense spending bill. welcome to "outnumbered overtime." i'm julie banderas and for harris faulkner today. a big hour for you, senate democrats are pushing hard for a vote as we speak on direct 2,000 covid relief payments after the measure passed the house yesterday. president trump are urging the senate to get it done, but republicans are split over the bill. the senate will also be voting on overwriting the president's veto of the national defense authorization act, after

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