>> dana: thanks, benjamin. thanks for joining us. first show of the year for me in the books. i'm dana perino. see you on "the five." bill hemmer is live in georgia. whatever is wrong with the billboard is wrong with me. i can't get my brain and mouth to work at the same time. >> bill: i think we'll put a few more quarters in the machine and we'll be okay. happy new year again. good afternoon, everybody. i'm bill hemmer live today in atlanta, georgia. counting down to election day in the peach state. the senate races will set the course for national politics over the next two years and maybe beyond. any moment now, we expect to hear from georgia voting officials ahead of the show down. president trump and president-elect joe biden campaigning in the state today. the president is still challenging november's results and teasing on twitter that he will bring it up tonight in a big rally in dalton, georgia. any moment now, we expect to

hear from election officials in what has turned out to be a beautiful day in the south. big hour. bret baier and andy mccarthy standing by. first to brian kemp. good afternoon to you. i want to get a sense of the two races. how tight are they, governor? >> good afternoon, bill. i'm sorry. what did you say? >> bill: how tight are these two races, sir? >> well, i don't think you can believe any polling at this point. what i've been telling everybody is don't get distracted, don't believe what is in the media, don't believe the polling. the only thing you need to believe is going out to vote. talking about the republican turnout tomorrow. i don't think there's any doubt the republicans got to have a huge turnout on election day to win these two races. david purdue and kelly loeffler have done a great job representing our state, the united states senate. look, bill, we're the fire wall to stop socialism, to keep from

handing the keys of power over to pelosi, schumer and aoc and bernie sanders. tomorrow quite honestly is going to set the course for the future of our country. in many ways, hopefully save this great republic, this great capitalist economy that we have and a lot of the great things going on over the last four years. i'm looking forward to it. we're working hard till the end. >> bill: okay, sir. on that note then, the story of the day is this leaked audio. i know what you told my colleagues last night about it, that it's a distraction. i grant you that. how much of a distraction, governor? >> i'm not going to fall into the trap of this is a big distraction. it's not. people don't need to pay attention to it. nothing else matters the next 24 hours. people need to do what the president and what myself and a lot of other people want people to do, and that is to get out and vote for david purdue and kelly loeffler. one thing in politics, being on the ballot, being a governor,

governoring, a former secretary of state, a lot of times you have to tune these issues out. stay focused on the things that you can control. that is what kelly and david are doing. they're out there stumping hard, all of us are here in georgia, asking georgians to turn out, especially republicans and people in the middle that don't want to see and agenda of the radical left move our country to the left. this will decide the balance of power, complete power in the united states. i believe that georgians will stand up tomorrow and have a huge turnout and send david and kelly back to the u.s. senate. >> bill: just got my two-minute warning. the secretary of state will come out in a moment. you mentioned you're a former secretary of state. i know you crossed words with brad rathlisburger. you believe you can only do so much to counter what has happened the past two months and stand up to what the president

says is an unfair vote. as governor, you could call for a special assembly. you have not done that. how come? >> that information is not correct. we have a constitution and laws in this state that i and the secretary of state have to follow. that is what's been doing. a special session at this point is irrelevant. our normal session starts a week from today. the idea of having a special now -- this horse has left the barn here. the electors have voted in georgia. they're on their way to d.c. that vote happens wednesday. to me, all of that is a distraction. we need to focus on tomorrow. that is election day, turning out the vote for kelly and david. it has been frustrating for me because the constitutional authority lies with the secretary of state. i asked for an audit well over a month ago, three different times. i felt like it would give confidence. that was finally done. i wish it had been done sooner.

a lot of the things people are asking me to do i don't have the constitutional authority or the legal authority to do that. the good thing is, with the eyes on this election, i know the purdue and loeffler campaigns have 8,000 poll watchers ready to go to work tomorrow. people can have confidence in the process. they need to vote and need to vote for kelly and david. >> bill: if you can stick around after the press conference, i'll bring you back and hit on that point again. governor, stand by. i want to bring in bret baier. he joins me in atlanta as well. you've been out and about today. what are we hearing so far? >> that's right. this is about turnout for republicans, especially in nor governor. the early vote seems to talk to they believe that democrats feel good about it. early vote is oftentimes a mirage. you have to really dig down on

election day about different places where they show up. you've said i've been out and about. i went a jon ossoff event in conyers. a suburb. we tried to get a pollside interview with him. we have david purdue on the show tonight. the campaign said he had to get to a biden event very quickly, which is at 4:30. this event was at 1:30. i'm not sure the timing there. >> you're thinking a good uber driver could have gotten him there. how was his precipitation, his level of confidence? he's 33 years old trying to win a senate seat. >> he's smooth. he has his talking points down. he did add today a section about president trump's phone call to the secretary of state. he said that he was trying to essentially shake down government officials and that georgia voters, this is ossoff speaking, should stand up and send a message to president trump.

so i do think that that call, we don't know how big of an effect it will have. what happens with president trump when he gets to dalton, georgia and his pitch to get out the vote for loeffler and purdue i think is going to be a big moment in the final hours of this campaign. >> bill: we'll watch that tonight for every word he says. what did you pick up from the governor there about his defense about how he has proceeded the past 60 days? >> he's been under fire. the president of the united states has hit him on twitter and everything else. governor kemp calls it a distracti distraction. clearly the republican voters don't any it went to way it should have gone. despite the relooks, they want the signature in fulton county. they want other things. the governor was the former secretary state. he knows the deal. they're in a tough spot. they're under a barrage of

trumpsupporters and the biggest, president trump himself. >> bill: one thing i picked up on your interview last night, he said republicans in georgia won almost 54% of the seats that were up for grabs in the state senate. if that is the case and you canvassed the entire state of georgia and that would portend i think somewhat of a optimistic prediction for what may turn out tomorrow here in georgia. >> listen, this is what president trump says. how did all of these other seats do well and then i lost? the bottom line is that there are a number of places around the country that we saw that. where the congressional seats went republican. that they weren't thinking they were going to or the state houses stayed republican or went republican. if that turnout happens, you could have one or two republican senators from georgia. the biggest difference in the senate, how it works, i don't

think people understand what it will look like if it's chuck schumer versus mitch mcconnell. >> bill: very interesting point. big headlines tonight at 6:00. we'll see you then. >> thanks. >> bill: gauge sterling is out right now, an election official in georgia. want to tap into his message and stop in now. sterling at the microphone here in atlanta. >> and we've seen a few shortages of poll workers, specifically morgan county. they'll lose two locations because of that. now, what we've seen also is a difference in the turnout models depending on the congressional district and county. large part driven by the continuing misinformation and disinformation concerning the value of people's votes in this state. the secretary wants me to make clear that everybody's vote will count, everybody's vote did count. i want to make that abundantly clear. if you care about the values and direction of the nation you want

to see, it's your obligation to turn out and vote tomorrow, democrat or republican. given the nature of the president's statements and several other people that have been aligned with him previously, had a rally saying protest and don't vote, we're specifically asking you and telling you, please turn out and vote tomorrow. one of the things specifically's had to argue with people i've known for 20 years, we thought our election was stolen. i said okay. i'm not acknowledging that the election was stolen. i'm not. there was not voter fraud. but if you believe in your hart of hearts that there was, the best thing to do is vote and turn out and make it harder for them to steal. if that's what you genuinely believe, turn out and vote. people fought and died and paraded to get the right to vote. throwing it away because you have a feeling it may not matter

is self-destructive ultimately and a self-fulfilling prophecy in the end. so everybody that cares about the future of the nation should turn out and vote. it's vitally important. it absolutely important. the reason i'm having to stand here today is because there's people in positions of authority and respect that have said their votes didn't count. it's not true. i'm going to do it again. i'm going to the anti-disinformation monday. it's groundhog day again. i'm going to talk about the things i've done for two months. i'm going to do it one last time i'm hoping. at the end of the day, we want to make sure people understand their votes count. every person, every voice matters. i know there's people that fought for years about this. let's start again. yes, some of this will come out of the continuing statements from the president and some of his supporters.

all right. this has been one conflated over several different things. we have the leak, the water main break. the multiple scanned ballots. to be transparent, we had a local media organization. we went through hours and hours, walked through frame by frame and show what happened. if you go to the securevotega.com, we posted the videos from state farm that cover the relevant periods. at 5:00 a.m., you can see the pond of water. they say we can't do our work. it's not fulton county people. there's no fulton county work order. it wasn't in a fulton county facility. it was state farm. they fixed the leak. it was a urinal overflowed. nobody stayed at state farm because of covid. it went over the edge of the

relief valve and that caused the leak. so that i come in. then you go to another one at 7:00 a.m. you have the drying zamboni cleaning the carpet. at 8:23, you see a woman bring in the table in question that has been the point of mr mr. guliani's 90-second clip. there's nothing underneath it. fast forward to 9:45 or so. everybody there, two groups of people there. there's cutters and scanners. what happened was the cutters began putting their stuff away. they start putting covers over the cutting machines and everything. so then we see also while the monitors are still there, they blink out the carriers which are normal carriers. i'll admit when i listened to

the audio of the phone call and the president brought that up again and i heard it on a radio ad, i wanted to scream -- i did scream talking about this. this has been thoroughly debunked. there are monitors, there's press in the room. they take the ball lots that had been opens and put them in carrier trays and then put them in the boxes, put the lid on. the lid matches the box. you can see at one point during the video a woman crawling on the floor, putting the seals on them to keep the chain of custody. 10:25, the secretary in our office receives word that fulton county is shutting down at state farm arena. so some of you there on election night recall the secretary got a little irritated with this and made his feelings known. some of us are working through the need and fulton county sees the need to knock off. chris harvey, the elections

director who was at the other location, the english street warehouse because he was doing election day activities. chris calls rick. rick said we're not shutting down. chris says looks like you are. so then you can go back to the videotape and see ralph jones take a phone call at almost 11:00. you can see his shoulders shrug. he's being told by his boss you need to continue and scan. so he hangs up the phone. he goes to the boxes. puts more seals on them. if you watch the videotape, many of the people are there have been there since 7:00 a.m. it's already 11:00 p.m. they were under the impression they're going home. he spent about 30 second going heck, what am i going to say to these people? he walks back to the corner and says i got the word we have to keep on scanning. so they go back to the boxes that you see them put under the table at the 10:00 hour.

there's videotape of this. this is what is frustrating. the president's legal team had the entire tape, watched the entire tape and from our point of view misled the state senate, voters and the people of the united states about this. it was intentional, obvious and anybody watching this knows that. that's why we released the entire tape for people to watch. this claim that that was done. so they pull those out and begin to scan. the other claim comes from a woman named ruby freeman and multiple scannings. one of the things you need to understand, a normal ballot processing if there's a problem with the ballot, what it does is it stops. before that, four or five will get through. so they say leave the last batch and rescan it so they scan properly. that's a normal process that is done. secondarily to that, everybody might be familiar with the fact the president wanted us to do a hand retally, which we ended up doing under our audit. that audit showed that there was no problems with the machine

scanning. if somebody took a stack of ballots and scanned them multiple times, you'd have a lot of votes with no corresponding ballots. so let's go over the numbers. statewide, for the be sheer number of ballots, they were off .1305%. for the margin, .099%. that shows the machines did a great job and doing the hand counts properly, appropriately with scrutiny and observers. let's put that to bed right now. one of the things that we did as part of our transparency, we put the tally sheets online for every county so you can go through and look at them all. again, the secure votega.com. let's go over the number the president's team is claiming, a chart over here. they're claiming there were 2,056 felons that voted. our research and we have better data because we're tied to the

state government on this, the department of correctionsed and the other department. i can't remember. basically tracks when people are on probation. we know how many people voted. we have an hour bound of 74 potential people that were felons that voted. what that means is, that is the biggest number it could be. people find out some of these people completed their sen tenses, some have the same name and birth dates. crossover there. 74 is the outward bounds. it's lower than that. then the claim that 66,248 people below the age of 18 voted. the actual number is zero. 66,000 versus 0. the reason we know that is because the dates are on the voter registration. there are four cases, four, where people requested their absentee ballot before they turned 18 but they turned 18 by election day. that means it is a legally cast

ballot. is 66,000, which is the biggest single number that they have on these votes versus zero. they said there's 2423 people that voted without being registered. let's be clear about this. you can't do it. there cannot be a ballot issued to you, no way to tie it back to you, no way to have a name to correspond back to. that number is zero. then we've got 1,043 illegally voted using a po box. we're going through the investigation on this. so far everyone we've seen has been when there's a mailbox, et cetera or something like that in a multifamily building like an apartment. they'll have what looks like po box listed in the system but they're the residential address of record for people in multifamily housing like apartments. we haven't seen anybody registering to vote at a usps p.o. box. next 4,926 voted past the deadline.

zero. zero record of anybody doing that. the voter registration has a cut off. 10,315 that died before the election. our information from the department of records we go through county by county and shows potentially two. so far two. it could change. it's not 10,000. 395 cast ballots in two states. we're investigating that. again, we got double voters which we're investigating. we're talking handfuls, not tens of thousands. we're all clear on the number now that it was 11,779. we've seen nothing in our investigations of any of these data claims that shows there's nearly enough balance to change the outcome. the secretary and i have said since november 3, there's

illegal voting in every ebb selection in the history of man kind. it's going to happen. it's putting as many safeguards as you can in place to make sure it doesn't happen. oh, yeah. we have part of a hand tally we discussed in relation to the potential double skinning. let's go to the other ridiculous claims that dominion voting machines are flipping votes. by doing the hand tally, it shows none of that is true. not a wit. and let's go back to the overall claims about dominion voting systems in general. if you look in wisconsin, they're claiming wisconsin was stolen through dominion voting machines. in the count 4 counties in which dominion voting machines were used, he got 59% of the vote.

he made a claim that 900,000 votes were deleted by dominion voting machines and the 14 counties they had 1.43 million people vote. 76% turnout. in order for 900,000 to have been deleted, they would have had to have 130% turnout. that did not happen because it cannot happen. again, this is all easily provably false. yet the president persists. by doing so, undermines georgian's faith in the election system, especially republicans, which is important because we have a big election tomorrow and everybody deserves to have their vote counted if they want it to be, republican and democratic alike. now let's move on to signature matching. there were claims about signature matching not being done. there were -- they were based on feelings. we believe no specific evidence was ever brought up until in one of the trump filings there was a

specific allegation that signature verification was not being done properly in cobb county in the june primary. that's the first time we had a signature match not being done. with that in mind, the governor offered to ask the secretary, he discuss eed potentially using g resources. so they came with multiple times. 15,118 absentee ballot envelopes that they investigated. they found two with potential problems. two. 99.919% was properly are done. and they were the actual voter. another thing they want to talk about, the vast difference in rejection rates what we've seen

is, there was not a vast different in rejection rates. what is happening to confuse people because they don't understand election systems, they're conflating the entirety of the ballots rejected versus those rejected ford mismatch or missing signature. we're comparing apples to oranges. in -- i think it was .26%. in 18 .125%. in 2019, hb 316 was passed which allowed there to be curing of ballots. so there's teams of republicans and democrats runs around the state finding people that have signature issues to cure their ballots. that's going on right now. the democrats did a better job of that during the general election. the republicans were not prepared. the democrats had teams set up, ready to go. a late entry on the republican

side to do those. in about 5,000 total ballots were rejected for some purpose and 2,600 of those were cured. the final rejection was around 2,400 ballots. let's go to the more new things. there's no shredding of ballots going on. that is not real. it's not happening. there's shredding of envelopes that were nonused ones or shredding of the secrecy envelopes that came through. we saw those in the senate hearing. it's obvious that they have no evidencery value on it. they're basically trash. the law requires you keep the signature and oath envelopes for 22 months. those are all being kept. this is what i don't fully understand. no one is changes parts or

pieces out of dominion voting machines. i don't know what that means. it's not a real things. it not happening. the president mentioned that on the call or two days ago. again, not real. i don't know how exactly to explain that. secretary rathlisbergers doesn't have a brother names ron rathlisberger. the other fantastical thing was ballot marking devices. neither one have modems. it's very hard to hack things without modems. there's nothing to talk to. let's get that clear. the poll pad, a no-link device does have the ability to connect to wi fi, which we use for

loading purposes and in case there's an issue on election day but not hooked up live all the time. if they saw anything, that i could see trapping back and forth but -- we have claim after claim with zero proof. zero. signed affidavits are part of a trail but have to be investigated. let's remember, everybody that came and gave testimony with public comment at the state senate hearing. this office i was never asked to come and discuss those items at that state senate subcommittee. that didn't happen either which i find interesting. they're making wild claims that undermine people's faith in the system. oh, yeah. another one that came from the founder of overstock.com that they found thousands of ballots in a warehouse in fullton

county. these are the emergency ballots that have been there since before the election. the reason -- first of all, every county has to have the emergency ballots by rule. the state election board says you have to have 10% for each polling location and they have to be printed for that polling location for the ballot size so they can track it properly. in fu in fullton county there was a covid outbreak before the general election. in a very wild abundance of caution, they had not plan a, plan b but plan c. if they couldn't get people in to do the testing on our equipment, we're going to print up 100% of our ballots if we cannot get the machines done. that did that out of

cautionafter the unknowns of covid. they were thankfully able to get the employees in. dominion came in and got the machines ready. that's why they existed. they're not fake. they're real. they're unused ballots. what i find interesting about this, they were in shrink wrapped items in boxes that are sealed. what can you do with them? they're sitting there. everybody saw them. i try to write down everything that we see over the internet as a potential disinformation. it gets exploded. we all look at these things. there's lots of bots doing it. we have foreign powers pushing these things at the same time. so here's the take away from this. this office has been open and

transparent. we are continuing investigations. there's questions about pristine ballots. the pristine ballot things. three runs you can have a pristine ballot. there's first one, military and overseas voters will get an electronic ballot. what happens is once we get the ballot built the 45th day, we'll send e-mails out to those that want a ballot delivery, which is many of our military men and women. it's not sized properly to go through a scanner. when it comes back, they duplicate that on a flat unfolded piece of paper on the absentee ballot/emergency ballot. it's a normal process for many of the military voters that are electronically delivered. the other --

>> bill: this is gabe sterling, the republican election official describing himself as a conservative as well. what he's doing is going through each point that has been made public over the past two months about the georgia vote count and the process here in georgia for the past six 60 days or so. a lot of viewers are in tune with the clarifications he's trying to make. the videos that have gone viral. he says there's a miss there. we talked about the leak on election night because of covid. we couldn't find a plumber in time. he said a lot of the election workers thought they were going home at 11. that was the schedule. and the felons voting, maybe 74 max. there were not 10,000 people that voted here. two potentially. on and on it goes. for reaction on that, i'm going to bring in jason miller, senior adviser to president trump's 2020 campaign. good afternoon to you.

i know you've been listening. you've been to a degree in the thick of this. your reaction to what gabe steriling is going through at the moment here in atlanta. >> well, bill, good afternoon. thanks very much for having me. look, i think what gabe sterling was up there saying is something that probably should have been shared on december 4, if not back on november 4. the fact of the matter is, we're here january 4, the day before the two run-off elections and mr. sterling was looking very nervous like someone that wasn't very confident that things are going to go smoothly tomorrow and not confident in maintaining their job. so there's interesting points that he made. there's a lot of things that he left out, for example. what he did not point out, there were multiple counties where they found thousands of pro trump ballots already. we talk about finding them. mr. sterling can't blame it on the counties. the fact that he glossed over

that in his discussion there i thought was notable. the other thing, too, would like to have heard more about the chain of custody for these drop boxes when it comes to the security about those. when he talked about the signature matches, they need to be checked against the historical voter files. just having it off of the envelope is not going to do it. we need to see if these people have actually been voting using the same signature for years. while mr. sterling did try to make some effort to address these things, the fact that he left so many out. he didn't talk about the thousands for president trump that they already found. to do this just now the day before the run-off election he's a day late and a dollar short. >> the one thing about the signature issues, he said democrats did a better job of curing their ballots. fixing a ballot that make sure

it's correct and nothing was amiss about it. is it true that the democratic party here in georgia did do a better job of making sure their voters were couped basically. >> i'm not quite sure what you know about them being counted. this was a massive turnout. a big huge republican turnout and a massive democratic turnout. that is something that we should want to see. we should want to see more people participating in the process. but they need to be legal voters. we can't count illegal votes. we talk about the signature match matches. comparing them is critical. and when we talk about some of these things. i thought mr. sterling glossed over the issue of out of state voting. this is where we saw the calls from yang and abrams getting people to move to georgia.

the entire presentation -- he glossed over so many of these key things. why wasn't this dope with our lawyers and team a month ago or two months ago? >> why was that? you sound like a significant doubter based on this explanation. game sterling is a republican. he's been in politics for decade, jason. you know that. >> but what i want to see is the trust. i what president -- i want to get to the bottom of this. this is the future of elections. in georgia, for example, we'll have very significant governor's race coming up in two years. a lot of congressional races. another tight presidential race four years from now. we have to get this right now. we have to get to the bottom of it and we can't be glossing over it and saying we're going to get to it at some point. just because gabe sterling and said i heard it and it not a big

deal. these are not the droids you're looking for like in star wars. that won't cut it. we want to sit down, look at the signatures and make sure the legal votes are counted. >> bill: thanks, jason for coming open today. you get your chance at rebuttal. thank you. senior trump adviser nor the campaign in 2020. want to bring in fox news contributor andy mccarthy who has been listening and watching this. what do you think of the back and forth, andy? >> you know, bill, this is what we've been dealing with for two months now. there's a plethora of allegations that have been made. some of these have required some investigation, others have been, you know, shown to be -- if not flatly wrong, mostly wrong. we've had court after court after court look at this. i think that's the big problem the campaign is having. >> bill: okay. so miller's point is why wait until now to come out with all of this information?

are you a believer that it took the state of georgia to figure it out in 60 days or could they have done it sooner, andy? >> they've been investigating a long time. i guess the state of georgia would say the trump campaign was tardy in filing's complaint and tardy of getting to the point itemizing the things that they said were irregularities, which georgia thinks that they mostly knocked down. the campaign filed the complaint, there were problems with it. they had to refile it. this is -- i think this is a lot of situation, bill, where people are really doing the best they can ups a very compressed time schedule. i mean that for purposes -- i know some of the lawyers worked very hard on this to pull it together. the state officials in georgia did, too. the problem that we have is that we have two imperatives. one is you have to get the

election right. we have to have a president that is up to speed on january20th. you have to decide this and move on. >> bill: andy, thank you. we'll see what happens tomorrow and there's more explanation when the president land in north georgia here. tomorrow, martha maccallum joins me live in atlanta. and zero social distancing on a crowded house floor. how about the hypocrisy in the house, huh? last night. we'll take that open as our coverage continues live in georgia where voters will decide which party controls the senate 24 hours from now. come back. blue skies in georgia. use a single hr software? nope.

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>> bill: atlanta, georgia where all the action is found. just outside the georgia world congress center next to the mercedes benz stadium. a fine day in atlanta as we get ready for the big vote tomorrow. some members of congress did not follow social distancing guidelines at the start of the congress last night. it was a house party. lots of lawmakers appear to be wearing masks but the house floor got crowded. nancy pelosi won her fourth storm as speaker. chad pergram is watching that. how about this, chad? >> good afternoon, bill.

the problem is that to start the new congress, everyone has to show up. the house imposed remote voting in the last congress because of the pandemic but that didn't carry-over to the new congress. then there were unexpected votes yesterday. that's why you had members lingering. they put in voting groups but that went out the window. house speaker nancy pelosi reminded members of the voting rules today. >> the chair reminds members as a matter of decorum, they have to wear masks at all times in the halls of the house even under recognition. >> she wrote a letter to all house members. she said with a sense of urgency about covid guidelines in the house, she added that members were ignoring the floor procedures. she also said the unexpected vote was not an invitation to

gather on the floor. we got word that kay granger of texas tested positive. republicansed question if gwen moore should have voted there to vote for pelosi. she said she was cleared by the capitol doctor. bill? >> bill: thanks. our monday team is here. mark thies. do as i say, not as i do. it was a house party on the floor that people all over the country and they're warning folks to stay away from kids to go to college and come back from the beach and then you get this scene in congress. >> yeah, i couldn't visit my mother with covid in the hospital or nursing home but they can gather to vote for speaker pelosi. covid rules apply to republicans and conservatives, period.

she broke the rules is because she would have lost if she hadn't. she brought the democratic party to the brink of disaster. the democrats were supposed to expand their house majority so that they would have a powerful house to back joe biden and the presidency. instead, republicans had a net gain of 11 seats, one more outstanding. not a single republican incumbent lost and democrats -- pelosi has the slimmest majority in a generation and poised to lose the house in 2022. so yeah, she had to bend the rules to get over the top. >> many people are waiting on the first shot. a lot of incoming freshmen have not been given the vaccine. mark's point is, unless you get them on the floor at the same

time, maybe nancy pelosi doesn't get the votes she needs. >> i'm going to take a less partisan approach than my good friend mark. i don't think it was a good look for anybody that was on the floor. i take in his segment, chad talk about how part of it was the fact that the rules don't carry-over automatically and they have to wait and vote for the rules. i take that point. the bigger point is whether you're a democrat or republican, you know the camera is on you. this is a good time to stand up and demonstrate to the rest of the country why the rules are so important. so whether you're a democratic member who is on the floor yukking it up with a friend wearing a mask or a republican member that came on to the floor and raised a fight about even wearing a mask, right? it's not a good look for any of them. >> bill: i agree, but chad

pointed out -- kay granger tested positive a bit earlier today. so it's real, it's out there. a lot of folks look at that and think what a bunch of hypocrites. we can't get together at a christmas party -- >> and a congress-elect almost died. >> bill: aoc has this comment, this is a shade of things to come in the house. we have to push the biden administration hard. this whole thing we can't cancel student loan debt is not going to fly. that is the beginning. how is that going to fly? >> that is why it's so important that the republicans hold on to the senate in georgia. if republican -- democrats take control of the house, aoc and the progressive wing are in charge. they're going to be setting the agenda. chuck schumer is going to be not defending mitch mcconnell against aoc and the progressive wing of the party because he's worried that aoc will challenge him for a senate seat.

he will be showing his power. there's no break on this wing. joe biden has promised and i take him at his word that he wants to unite the country. i believe that. the only way to do that is to compromise, to accept that you're going to approve some republican priorities in exchange for democratic priorities, accept no symptoms for certain things. the only way that happens is if republicans control the house because that takes -- that's the only thing that will lift the pressure from the radical democratic wing and joe biden. >> bill: i have to reason. mo, how do the races go tomorrow in georgia? who wins them? >> if i were a betting man, i wouldn't take a bet. it's going to be super close. turnout will matter. i think what -- this latest wrinkle of what is happening in georgia because of that phone call the president did with the secretary of state has more republicans nervous. he's going there tonight, if he

uses it as an opportunity to rail against the voting process again, it could further depress turnout for republicans at a time when they can't afford it. so it's a jump ball. i think it's going to be close. democrats are feeling more optimistic than they usually do in these types of races. >> bill: put you down as 50/50. thanks mo and mark. nice to see you on a monday. thanks for coming back. more with martha maccallum with me on set here in atlanta as we also go back to the board for some outlook and preview what you might see tomorrow and tomorrow night. come back. important news for veteran homeowners. introducing refiplus from newday usa. refiplus lets you refinance at today's all-time low interest rates plus get cash. with home values climbing, now is the smartest time ever to turn your home's increased value into an average of $50,000 cash. refiplus. it's new, it's only for veterans,

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>> bill: this just in. from london, boris johnson imposing a new lockdown on that country as covid cases rise. there's a bright spot. the u.k. saw the first global

roll out of the oxford astra zeneca vaccine in hospitals today. that is moving throughout the u.k. the word in, lockdown till mid february. wow! back to the board here in atlanta. hours away from the important senate run-off. this will get a lot of time and attention the next 24 and 48 hours. if we can't determine the winner tomorrow, we'll go to thursday as well. we tried this last hour here. this is the advance vote here in georgia. 7:00 eastern time, ossoff and purdue, one of the two matchups. warnock and loefflers. here's -- you want to know whether or not georgia is listening to the country, look at this advanced vote already. three million here in the state of georgia. how does that rate with -- i'm going to try this again. i've been dieing to make sure i can get this to work. three million right now. the presidential race, you were

up over four million. everybody is engaged in a big way. not so sure we'll hit the same numbers we saw on november 3. come back here, guys. we'll roll over here to meet martha maccallum, my colleague and friend. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> bill: you've been in a town a couple days. what is your sense about the folks here in georgia? >> my sense is when you talk to republicans, most of them say that they think there was something the -- there was funny business in the november election. we watched the news conference as it was laid out. point by point by point from the secretary of state's office why they say that that is not true. so you know, one observation that is accurate is that you have a real divide in terms of the way people perceive what happened and the way that the secretary of state's office believes what happened. >> bill: listening to that when he went point by point, i thought it was interesting, he said why didn't you say this in the last 60 days? why wait till now? >> they have said it over the

last 60 days. that would be my guess. sterling and ratzenberger have had a lot of interviews. what is very clear is there's a lot of disgrunteled voters. i watched the hearings and i don't believe what i'm being told is the facts on the ground. so that's a powerful thing. when you have that perception, you have to fight it with facts and that's what he was trying to do. whether or not that will win over these folks, i don't know. >> bill: we're about five hours away from air force one touching down in the town of dalton. the president will bring a message of get out and vote and what else does he say. >> he said in his own tweet today, he will talk about the november election and the fact that he think was he was robbed essentially in the state of

georgia and in other places. that just raises questions about what his real goal is in the course of this. right? does he want to convince people to vote for kelly loeffler and david purdue? is that the reason he's here or is there another agenda and are those agendas competing? that's a real question and we're going to talk about it in the news to come. >> bill: at foxnews.com, senator marco rubio has a strong message. the fate of our nation is in georgia's hands. if democrats go 2-0 here and make a sweep, washington looks different the next two years. >> he makes the point and rightly so that in the course of the beginning of the obama administration, what you saw was obamacare get through in that period where they had the house and the senate and the white house. for president trump and paul ryan, it was tax cuts that made it through in the initial years when they had all three. so you would look for some very

serious changes to happen in terms of agenda and we'll see what is top of mind versus -- >> bill: the voters you spoke to, did they bring that point up? >> they're very concerned. everyone that i talked to said they were absolutely going to vote in this election. most of them already had. so the idea that they'll stay home, i did not see evidence of that that is anecdotal. one person that i spoke to is an african american pastor that said he was going to vote for loeffler and purdue. he says he believes there's a change in terms of the african american population and the way that they perceive republican and democrat and what is best for them. is it a sliver, more than a deliver? it's something that we saw in the presidential election. something that we need to watch in this election and over the course of the next two. >> bill: i'll be watching next hour with the secretary state. we thought we would see and hear from him. >> that's my first question. where were you? >> bill: didn't happen. this is the easiest toss, the

hand-off in all of t.v. martha, great to see you here. >> great to be with you, bill. welcome, everybody. i'm martha maccallum in for neil cavuto. this is "your world." we're coming to you live from the georgia congress center in atlanta. ground zero for these crucial run-off elections that will decide which party controls the united states senate as bill and i were discussing. president trump will hold a rally in atlanta for kelly loeffler and david purdue. all of this as the president and georgia's secretary of state, brad rathlisberger continue to spar and over a leaked phone