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you got a rally in d.c. at 9:30 and then the senate convenes at 1:00 p.m. we'll be watching all of it. see you tomorrow morning. >> sandra: see you tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert where voters are now headed to the polls across the state of georgia. it's what's being called the most important runoff election in american history. those two senate races in georgia will determine which party will control the u.s. senate and the nation's agenda. president trump was in georgia last night speaking at a rally for republican senate candidate david perdue and senator kelly loeffler. he warned a democratic senate victory would lead to socialism. >> they want to turn, the democrats do, turn america into
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venezuela, with no jobs, no prosperity, no rights, no freedoms, no future, family. >> harris: joe biden was also in georgia yesterday campaigning for senate candidates rafael warnock and jon ossoff. th >> we need you to vote again in record numbers. we want your voices heard again and again to change georgia, to change america. by electing jon and the reverend, you can break the gridlock that has gripped washington and this nation. >> harris: this is "outnumbered." town hall editor and fox news contributor katie pavlich. radio host and fox news contributor leslie marshall. joining us today from atlanta,
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georgia, fox news chief political anchor bret baier. good to see you. let us start with the energy that is present in the state of georgia and that momentum goes to which ever side i would imagine either voted early or can get everybody out today. what are people talking about? >> well, people are here looking at the republican numbers in different parts of the state. if republicans come out at about 63%, they win both of these races. they were at 65% on election day. there's an early vote advantage for democrats, but it's believed that the president fired people up in north georgia last night and he cannot go anywhere, harris, without being asked every second about the importance of this election. every kind of group, from outside, from inside, from the campaign. there are a lot of people down
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here from both sides working polls, working to get people out. so you're talking about republicans with a traditional advantage here, but democrats having an early vote lead. so this is gonna be tight and it's going to be important. >> harris: you know, katie, i'm curious with the president on the ground in georgia yesterday. you have the vice president earlier in the day and some of the messaging that went out. out of that 90 plus minute speech, i think he spent about four or five minutes actually on the candidates for president of the united states. what kind of impact did he have? >> well, the republican senate candidates in georgia need the trump coalition, the trump base, to come out. president trump was in town last night. vice president pence has been in georgia a number of times since the november election to campaign for this runoff. you also have a number of president trump's allies going
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to georgia to campaign. what president trump's message was last night, and he said i want to live in a great country. he warned that if the republican candidates are not victorious in georgia, the country will change. i think that's been obvious through the democrats campaign that we've seen on the ground in georgia. these are not joe manchin democrats. these are far left democrats who have the attention of hacking the supreme court and other issues. the consequences here are serious and they're serious for joe biden as well, in terms of who he can get on the supreme court. what kind of judges he can put in. who his attorney general might be. what kind of cabinet nominees will he put up, who will have to be confirmed by the senate. what the outcome of tonight will determine the future of the country in a number of different ways and will have very long lasting consequences for everybody on both sides of where the votes come in. >> harris: did the president get
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that done in the time he spent talking about the candidates? >> we'll find out. i can't get into the minds of georgia voters who may be questioning. >> harris: amen to that. >> there's been reconciliation of saying the election in georgia was rigged while also trying to get those same voters out to the polls and trying to argue and convince them that their vote will be worth something. the argument that president trump made last night was, you have to overwhelm the system so if you believe the last election was rigged and president trump won, his feeling is if you show up and prove georgia is still a red republican state in order to preserve his legacy. a lot of that will be rolled back if there is a democratic senate, congress and white house. >> harris: leslie, you can't argue that there was somewhat of a gift handed to those republicans on the ground who
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want to you words like socialism and, you know, just taking over the whole nation with a more left view of things. that gift came from senator chuck shumer of new york when he said first we take georgia and then, basically, remake america in his image. i'll just put it that way. how do you battle that on the ground? >> well, first, happy new year, everybody. katie, because it's the new year, i'll agree with one of our sentences, which is the outcome of this election will have an impact on either side. harris, to your point, look, this is all about ground game. you have messaging left to right. fear mongering using venezuela. he does not want to pack a court. in addition to that, he is against a lot of the squad who went from four people to now six. it's not a majority in the house or senate or voters.
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georgia comes down to, do i want $2,000 checks? do i want a divided government? for some people it may come down to old regime versus new regime. for some people it might come down to somebody they identify with. like the reverend is african-american. jon ossoff is young, jewish. that's what it's really going to come down to. i think it was smart, quite frankly, for the president and president-elect to go down there because this is about ground game. i do think some of the messaging from the president and republicans about georgia might impact how many people come out. when we look at the numbers, bret is right. democrat doss have a slight advantage. what happens in the northwest section of the state of georgia, we have to look at. those numbers aren't looking good for republicans. we'll see if the president changes that with his messaging. >> harris: kennedy, your thoughts? >> i can't wait to see how this all unfolds. i think the polling has been really tricky here. last night on my fox business
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show, we were talking about the rcp average which seems to swing within about a point, point and a half, depending on the week. last night we saw both the democrat candidates were up by a tiny bit, rafael warnock a little more than jon ossoff. we'll see how that bears out. what i'm really interested in hearing has nothing to do with the exchange with the president. i want to hear if there were questions about voting irregularities in georgia. what are they doing to shore that up, considering they have almost the same volume of mail-in ballots. what are they doing in that state to make sure that these are not contestable results in either direction? also, i think people who were attending the president's rally last night pretty much had their mind made up who they are voting for. i'm curious in georgia who is on the fence still. and also, as crazy as it sounds,
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you could see a split decision. i know that sounds bananas, but i do believe that people will be looking at all of these candidates very differently. >> harris: interesting. split decision, wow. as if we weren't banana split enough. bret, as we go into this night, there is already a bounty. 3 million people already have voted in georgia. that seems like, as you look over history, a lot for a senate runoff race just to begin with before today even gets started. >> we talked about the importance of this moment. as i mentioned in the beginning, democrats had a good early vote push and mail-in vote push, as they did in the general election. maybe more so now. that's why they're feeling a little bit confident. i will say talking to democrats in the biden circle, they're just a little bit skeptical.
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saying it's an uphill battle in a place like georgia in a runoff to win both of these seats. they're trying to get around reality. they said if it happens, it would be a big leap to get over. i went to an ossoff rally yesterday in conyers. there were about 120 people there in a parking lot. it's different campaigning during a pandemic. he's a smooth pitch. he's got his pitch down, his stump speech. he added president's call into the stump speech. i didn't get a one on one aside with him. i can tell you they feel like they are knocking on doors as opposed to what they did prior to the general election. >> harris: that's interesting. i'm looking off to the side of the screen, those numbers of that fund-raising, north of $300 million in one state. you could have rolled out a vaccine. >> yeah. think about how many democrats raised that much money or more.
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south carolina, maine. and they lost. they are not senators or senators-elect. i don't think money is the be all end all on this election this time, but it's staggering that both democrats raised over $100 million for this race. >> harris: wow. all right. sit by, everybody. more to come. stay with fox news for this historic election night, with updates throughout the day. bret baier will join martha mcca mccallum to start our coverage. just ahead, georgia senator kelly loeffler is now joining 12 of her leagues in challenging the presidential election results. could more lawmakers follow suit, as more than 100 republicans say their objections deserve to be heard. plus, as thousands of trump
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supporters gather at this hour to protest the electoral college vote, a top politico reporter says his media colleagues need to start calling these people radicals and extremists. biased media? we'll get into it. missouri senator josh hawley said antifa threatened him an his family. the tense scene outside his home. >> democracy is under attack! important news for veteran homeowners. introducing refiplus from newday usa. refiplus lets you refinance at today's all-time low interest rates plus get cash. with home values climbing, now is the smartt time ever to turn your home's increased value into an average of $50,000 cash. refiplus. it's new, it's only for veterans, and it's only from newday usa.
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college vote. kelly loeffler announced last night that she will object to the election results from the presidential election, challenging president-elect joe biden's victory in some key battleground states. she will join more than 100 house republicans who are demanding congress appoint a commission to look into claims of election fraud. missouri republican josh hawley was the first senator to announce that he would object to the results. last night our man in the middle bret baier questioned hawley on whether this fell in line with the constitution. >> there's a statute that says that governs what congress does on january 6th. it says that we have a vote of certification and that we have the opportunity to debate the results. my point is, this is my only opportunity during this process to raise an objection and to be heard. >> harris: so, bret, along with
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your word exchange with senator hawley and senator loeffler telling me the goal is not to flip the presidential election, what did you get from hawley? what is their objective in all of this? >> well, that was the question, harris. i was trying to say, what is the goal here? what's the end game? can you tell your constituents that president trump is not going to be president on january 20th or 21st as a result of what's going to happen tomorrow? ted cruz is going to, we're just learning, object to the electors from arizona. that's early in the list of electors. he will join andy biggs from arizona and object to that pending a commission to look at voter fraud. cruz said last night in an interview with mark levine that his view is congress should fulfill their responsibility under the constitution to consider serious claims of voter fraud. that's why he assembled this coalition of senators.
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not, he says, to set aside the election. i don't think that would actually be the right thing to do. but rather, to appoint an electoral commission that can hear claims of voter fraud. in other words, to make their voices heard, to talk about what they see as irregularities, but not to say that it's not going to be president biden as of inauguration day. there are a lot of people upset. i have talked to a lot of them on the ground and around the country about what they've seen and felt in this election. but i don't think they know that the end result of tomorrow is not going to be that president trump stays in the white house. >> harris: to put a number on how many people are upset, let's go with the going number of about 74 million. when you talk about that many americans, they do deserve -- i had brett coleman on my show
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yesterday. he said, look, with all that he would put into the process, 100% plus people deserve to know, but i haven't had a senator yet tell me the objective is to flip the election. sometimes it's amazing what the truth can bring, so we will see. katie, when you look at this, what does president trump need to be saying to his supporters, those who voted for him, those who would vote for him again if he were to run in 2024? >> well, what he has been saying is he's standing up for them. he's standing up for the populous movement they created. the message all these people in washington, d.c. are sending throughout the week that they are here is they are not going away. regardless of whether the election results are turned over, they are holding their public officials accountable. the fact is the people who are objecting wednesday to the electoral vote process, they're simply reflecting the calls from their constituents and what they
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would like to do, which is their job, quite frankly. the people that i have talked to who were at this march today or who planned on going and couldn't make it, they said the goal is not necessarily the turn over the election. the goal is to make sure that america and republicans and democrats, but mostly republicans, understand that this movement is not going away. there were a number of irregularities that continued in georgia. stacey abrams' sister is a judge who is refusing to recuse herself from election cases despite stacey abrams involvement in election and registering voters there. there are on going questions about the process. it's not necessarily about the results, but about doing an analysis and reconciliation of the process to make sure that next time around there aren't questions given these trump supporters felt like they haven't had answered. given everything that happened
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with russian collusion, impeachment. this is the final straw for them. they want to make sure people understand this is a movement that is not going away. >> harris: such an excellent point. leslie, i don't know how a president-elect joe biden, if it ends up he's in the white house right on january 20th in the afternoon that day and he has been tasked with bringing the nation together. i don't know how he ignores those 74 plus million people. as katie said, the legacy over the last four years of seeing a president that's faced so many investigations, so on so forth. how does he bring the nation together? you can't just turn your back and say, as barack obama said, elections have consequences. >> elections do have consequence. i think there's going to be a lot of consequences for individuals that need to reread their constitution. bret, i want to give you a shout out. i watched that segment and you
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were right on with the constitution, which is very clear. it is not congress who decides who the president of the united states is. it is the voters of the electoral college. you have 61 lawsuits lost, 50 governors 50 states that have said joe biden is the next president-elect of the united states. you've had numerous recounts. you have the attorney general of the united states, bill barr, appointed by the president of the united states currently donald trump, all saying there is no evidence of voter fraud, of mass widespread voter fraud. >> harris: my point was about unity. >> you need to have proof. when you talk about -- >> harris: my point was about unity. >> when you talk about 74 million people upset about the outcome. four years ago 60 million people were upset about the outcome. we didn't have a democratic number of senate members sitting in the face of the constitution. >> harris: the former candidate was writing books about what
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happened. all right. i got to get to kennedy -- >> she wasn't trying to overturn the election. >> leslie, leslie. leslie, with all due respect, you've had a moment. hillary clinton was the one who told joe biden no matter what happens, don't concede. i want to pick up on something katie said because it's a really important point. that is the manifestation of this movement and this passion in the coming years, in the mid terms and 2024. that's going to be critical. so what may seem like posturing now is politicians like josh hawley and ted cruz reaching out to disenfranchised voters. the reason they gravitated toward president trump in the first place is because they felt like both parties and all politicians ignored them. president trump gave them a voice, whether or not you agree with it. that passion will remain. we saw that in 2016 with hillary clinton and the fracture in the
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democrat party. that has manifested itself in the squad. that energy is still very much there. it will be there on the republican side, but now what remains to be seen is how that is going to grow and who is going to capitalize on it. >> harris: bret, last words. >> just want to say, listen. the democrats did try to overturn an election. it lasted for a long time. it led to an impeachment, trying to kick a president out of office. >> harris: exactly. >> it was nonstop objection to the last election. there was even a formal objection. that didn't work, didn't get as much coverage as this. it is legitimate to say people have to have a voice. what i was trying to do is the reality of what's going to come from it and what the constitution says about the process. we just have to be real with people that the president is going to leave the white house and president-elect joe biden will become president joe biden.
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>> harris: all right. let's move on. i always like to wait for the facts to roll out. it is part of what makes us unified americans, as we watch it together. so stay tuned. republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin is one of those 13 senators who will challenge the election results tomorrow. he will join me on "outnumbered overtime" next hour on why he believes they have to take this step. we'll get into it. watch. and make sure you tune in tomorrow for special coverage of the electoral college certification. that begins at 1 p.m. eastern, at the same time as the rally leaves the white house to walk over and all of those trump supporters are together. straight up 1 p.m. eastern, bret and martha will be with me. as the gop tries to hold on to its senate seats in georgia, there's a growing fight between president trump and georgia secretary of state. what he's now saying about that
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phone call with the president. plus, activists descend on a senator's house, scaring the wits out of his family, while a new member of congress says she wants to carry her own gun on the grounds of the capitol. her defense of her rights. >> i refuse to give up my right, my 2nd amenment right. [♪] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. try boost glucose control. the patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. boost glucose control products contain high quality protein and key nutrients to support immune health. try boost.
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>> harris: activists with bull horns targeting senator josh hawley, descending on his family's home in northern virginia while he was away in missouri. >> democracy is unattack. what do we do! when democracy is under attack, what do we do? >> the demonstrators protesting his plan to object to the electoral college certification. the senator said he terrorized
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his wife and newborn daughter who were inside. he said tonight, antifa scum bags came to our place in d.c. and threatened my wife and daughter. they screamed threats, vandalized and tried to pound open our door. my family and i will not be intimidated. the chaos outside the senator's home comes as one of the house's newest members created quite a stir with the new ad saying she will carry her glock pistol around d.c. and on capitol hill. >> there's an absolute uproar over people wanting to defend myself. i'm 5', 100 pounds. i am now in one of the most dangerous cities in america. the violent crime rate is 158% times higher than the national average. i will be walking alone a lot. i don't go to work in an armored vehicle. i don't have personal police escorts. i am my own security here. my most basic right is the right
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to defend myself. >> why is this causing such a stir? it seems like a pretty rational statement? >> yeah. i think of the baseball shooting, the congressional baseball shooting where steve scalise almost lost his life. he said the only reason why there were survivors on that baseball field is because there were police there with firearms. the only reason there were police there is because steve scalise was in leadership and had an armed security escort to that baseball field. the fact is, washington, d.c. has a murder rate that we haven't seen since 2004. it is a very violent city. women, just like men in america, have a 2nd amendment right to protect themselves. i don't understand why people are so outraged over a woman who is new to a violent city wanting to take her own personal responsibility and defend herself against a violent threat, should that god forbid happen.
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it shouldn't be controversial but in a liberal city where they tend to focus more on law abiding citizens than criminals, i guess it's not so surprising. >> yeah, leslie, why the controversy? >> well, there are laws in place. you can't walk around with guns whether you're democrat, republican, elected official or not in d.c. you can't have a firearm on capitol grounds. i would imagine aoc have some people that hate them, maybe threaten their lives. they're not carrying guns. rules are the rules. if you don't like it, change the rules. metropolitan police have said she will be held to the same standard as everybody else if she chooses to carry that firearm. >> d.c. definitely does not have the same standards as the rest of the country. bret, i want to talk about senator hawley. we've seen this tone throughout the year, throughout the country. i am all for protesting. i am all for people peaceably
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assembling and raising their concerns and calling those in power out on their shenanigans. but going to the home of a sitting senator when he's not there, can you imagine a mom and newborn baby in a situation like that? it's gone too far. how do we pull it back? >> it's unbelievable. that's happened a lot, not just to senators, but to news people, to commentators. this is the new mo of these groups. we've seen mitch mcconnell's home, nancy pelosi's home. this is where we are. there has to be some coming together to stop this kind of thing. i think the next few days in washington are going to be very tumultuous. i think there is a risk there. i hope nothing happens, but i do think there's a concern about not only what's been done after
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tomorrow but into the inauguration and beyond. there has to be people from both parties standing up and saying, we're better than this as a country. >> yes. i would rather see a sitting congress woman on capitol hill defend herself or at least have the right to protect herself and carry her own weapon than see people in groups like this. you know what happens. you and i have seen it and you have documented this so frequently. things can go from loud to violent so quickly. >> harris: absolutely. yeah. >> it doesn't seem like anyone is bringing the temperature down. bret is actually right. these next two days in the country are critical for people to simmer down. >> harris: really, more than that. we've got to get to january 20th, per the constitution, so somebody takes a seat inside the white house. we need to stay cool that entire
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time. i will say, with the congress woman's talk about the 2nd amendment, she has shined a light on something that we're all kind of getting to now. even leslie said it. it's a problem. you've got people showing up at their homes. capitol hill is one place where you have a whole lot of people. look at the would be criminals wanted to do with the governor of michigan. take hostages, take over that capitol building. i would never ever want to put into place a situation where we hadn't considered everything. by her bringing up the conversation, let's embrace what's good about that. we need to be talking about it anyway. we really do. and if people are there, trying to do their jobs and they don't feel safe, they're at the center of it. let's find what makes them feel safe. let's show the nation that the leaders can do that. wow. that would be amazing. that would be like a sequel to a really good movie if we could
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get the first movie of it, them getting along, getting stuff done. >> amazing and necessary. as protesters gather at this hour in support of president trump, a top politico reporter is under fire after urging journalists to attack them and republicans contesting the election results as extremists and radicals. we have more coming up. veteran homeowners: during uncertain times, money in the bank can bring you and your family real piece of mind. refiplus from newday usa can make it happen. refiplus lets you refinance at the lowest mortgage rates in history plus get an average of $50,000 cash for the financial security you and your family deserve. refiplus, only from newday usa. %-y> man: what's my my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked...
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outline of the meeting was. there was no preset meeting with lawyer to lawyer, but we did have our attorney on there. the president believes that we had a phone call. when he did that, he wanted to make it public. >> harris: meanwhile, president trump is also taking aim at georgia's republican governor, brian kemp. he told supporters last night that he will be campaigning against kemp and the secretary of state in 2022. bret, he laid it out. it was pretty clear. i'm curious though, two more years between now and then. what is it going to look like for the state of georgia and this current president? >> well, not good on those two officials. clearly he has in his mind that he's been wronged by them. but his focus on that ahead of today is not helpful to the
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republican party down here. both of those officials say you have to get out and vote and they're trying to get kelly loeffler and david perdue across the finish line. the president says he wants to do that as well. but the whole battle and the focus on the tape and it was leading the atlanta journal constitution headlines about all of this. it's just not helpful for getting out the fault. i will say raffensperger said he wouldn't have authorized putting out anything or his people put it out if the president hadn't tweeted and attacked him about the phone call. there's all kinds of back and forth there about the release of it. the substance of the phone call is also problematic and they've talked about that including marcia blackburn. >> harris: leslie? >> it's a clear violation of the
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code. but can anything be done about it? i agree with bret, it's the substance. in the state of georgia an district of columbia, you only need one person to authorize a recording. there wasn't anything illegal there. but here's the problem. harris, you talk about the president being against the governor. the governor is a republican. he's going to have a smart democratic challenger. if anything, president trump might be helping democrats further in the state of georgia with both positions of secretary of state and the governor's seat going forward. that actually could hurt, just as messaging regarding hey, look, there's fraud, don't support this. some people might say, should i vote or should i not vote? and lastly, if kelly loeffler and david perdue win in georgia, this sets the precedent for people to question the outcome of those elections as well. >> harris: wow. that's interesting.
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katie? >> look, we can talk about who made the phone call, who recorded the phone call, but i think what ultimately matters is how republicans in georgia handle this going forward. you had stacey abrams bragging about the fact that she has, quote, eviscerated signature matching on ballots, which means a number of votes that would have been illegal or disqualified a year ago are now legal. the process leading up to the georgia election is something that needs to be carefully looked at by republicans. newt gingrich was on hannity saying they learned a lesson to have more poll watchers, to have a smarter process to see what's going on. the battle will come down to each state legislature and election officials in each state looking to where they got to where they are and it should be appropriate for signature matches not to count for example. that's one of many issues moving forward to future elections and
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questions that millions of people have about the validity of the rules changing at the very last minute leading up to the presidential election and now these runoffs. >> harris: yeah. that is so interesting, too. it makes you wonder whether or not if the president is looking at this, is he looking at the total picture. those are the people who will be tasked to fix anything. bret? >> ten seconds. i met two ladies, republicans, who were not involved in politics, were not into it, but they were so dispushed by what they thought happened in this election that they volunteered. they are now watching poll workers count absentee ballots. that just goes to show you that people are stepping up and there are a lot of them, more than they had on november 3rd. >> harris: okay. it will be interesting to see if anybody steps up to run again kemp or the secretary of state
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raffensperger in 2022. we'll watch it. crowds are starting to form in our nation's capital. as i told you earlier, there's going to be a rally. here is the makings of that. trump supporters prepare to protest the election results. why one reporter says the media needs to stop calling these people conservatives and, in their words, start calling them radicals. we'll debate. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser-drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. tylenol rapid release gels.
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>> harris: a sizable crowd of trump reporters gathering in washington, d.c., protesting tomorrow's joint session of congress. that's when lawmakers will certify the electoral college vote. tim alberta says the media should not hold back when it describes these people. here's what he tweeted about them. words matter. it's time we reformed our political terminology. we should not, for the rest of our careers, refer to any of these electoral college objectors as conservatives. they are radicals, extremist. there is nothing conservative about a burning democracy. i remembered a time when we wanted them to say those words about isis and some other
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things. i am shocked by this. your take? >> well, there have been members of congress from the house and senate, both parties, who have objected to the electoral college for their own reasons and actually that sort of discussion is very much part of democracy. discussion and subversion are two very different things. i have always been a big believer that you actually get to identify yourself. you get to identify yourself in life and in politics. because one writer sees things one way, that doesn't mean we live by his rules and definitions. sorry. >> harris: leslie, if you villify the other side, how can you meet in the middle? i thought i'd ask it a different time. >> i actually agree with kennedy on this one. i know, shocking. you shouldn't. we have a first amendment right, left to right, to call either side radical, just like everybody thinks we democrats
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are socialists or communist. i'm tired of the name calling. i'm tired of the labeling. i agree with what bret said, we as a nation coming together and uniting. just because somebody, political or somebody else, says don't call them conservatives, i don't think that's going to happen. although there are conservative republicans in the party who think some, like ted cruz, are taking some radical steps with what they're planning to do right now. >> harris: look, katie, you saw kelly loeffler calling those on the left radicals. that's not necessarily the word here. extremist. that's tied to a legal meaning. >> and also, harris, this is a politician campaigning versus someone who is supposed to be objective without bias in the media covering this protest in d.c. and covering other things in washington. this summer, washington, d.c. and is number of cities were boarded up because of rioting.
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we had chyron saying it's a fiery but peaceful protest. fact is there are thousands of trump supporters coming to washington today. they have a very peaceful track record. this idea that you have journalists saying we should classify them as extremists, when they refused to do it for antifa, exposes the bias we've been seeing for a long time now. >> harris: bret, this is really building right now, that crowd size and the energy there. when the speakers start, we are going to dip in. your take on all of it? >> well, listen. full disclosure, i like tim alberta. usually he plays it straight. i think here he went over his skis. nobody was calling the people obsessed with the russian hoax or dossier radicals, or democrats who tried to overtake the election last time, or who continued to push to get donald trump out of office. i think we have to be careful about the names we call. just cover it.
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you can question motives. you can say what's going to happen or not happen. but not labels. >> harris: i love that. you can just cover it. that's what we're going to do. before we go, tune in for fox news's coverage coming up next hour and also tonight 6 p.m. eastern for the battle for america, the senate runoffs in georgia. stay tuned. after the break, america outnumbered overtime d turn youry . money for your family. that's me. introducing refiplus from newday usa. take advantage of record low rates plus get cash for security today or retirement tomorrow that's me. refiplus. only from newday usa. to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't.
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>> harris: fox news alert. at this hour, trump supporters are kicking off a protest which could draw thousands of people in our nation's capital. it comes one day before the joint session of congress. you can hear them singing right now, if you listen carefully. organizers are calling today's demonstration the rally for revival. d.c.'s mayor is urging everyone who lives in the city to stay out of the downtown area and avoid engaging with the
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