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this morning doing vice president pence, presiding there in the senate. they were derailed because of the events today. so now, we are going to take a quick pause and check back in with them as we begin another hour of extended coverage of "fox news @ night." >> vice president pence: in that case, the objection cannot be entertained. [applause] >> shannon: and it appears another state has made it through the electoral vote contest. you know the objection takes somebody from the house and the senate. that did not occur. any number of states, electoral votes are being entered. vice president mike pence, who is presiding over this as they work through alphabetically, we think the next day they will get to his pennsylvania. welcome back to "fox news @ night"'s extended coverage of everything that took place today. on an unbelievable day here in the capitol city, plus the debate and the vote still going on at this hour. we're going to begin with some breaking news, house and senate have both voted to certify the
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electoral votes from arizona tonight, after debate on the objection was historically interrupted earlier today. shannon bream in washington, and we go back to capitol hill work congressional correspondent chad pergram has been tracking all of the latest developments today. the dangers playing out on the hill, and now what is happening is there back in business. hey, chad. >> hey there. there was just some applause in the house chamber as they meet in this joint session of congress. the reason is they thought there might be some challenges to michigan. there were no challenges, so michigan's electoral votes have been certified for joe biden. as you say, pennsylvania is the next big question. we thought earlier in the day that georgia was going to be one that they challenged. the idea with georgia, jody hice, republican congressman from georgia, he was the host petitioner, but you need a sponsor from the senate, and heise was asked by mike pence, vice president presiding, he said you have a senate sponsor, and he said we had some earlier, but they
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dropped off after the mayhem at the capitol today. we've seen that there were a number of senators, steve daines, republican of montana, james lankford, republican of oklahoma, it also kelly loeffler, who for the time being continues to be a senator from georgia, they reversed their positions and agreed to say we are going to certify these electoral votes. there is no set fighting this. so pennsylvania comes up a few states down the line, they go alphabetically, and i'm the house senate will meet separately for up to two hours, 5 minutes per person gets to speak, and then they vote. they take a roll call vote to accept pennsylvania. but what happened with congressman hice, and we've seen that happen on the house floor when they adjudicate the electoral college before, we saw it in 2001, when there was the dispute over florida after bush v gore, where he had member after member after member from the congressional black caucus coming up and challenging florida, and al gore, then vice president, presiding over his own loss, ask maxine waters,
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democrat from california, famously, do you have a senate sponsor? and maxine waters said "i don't have a senate sponsor, and i don't care." and al gore famously said "well, the rules don't care." it did not get to that level in the house chamber tonight with vice president pence presiding. that was a case we had a host petitioner but not a senate petitioner. we have that happen in 2017 whether house members, pramila jayapal from washington, d.c., jamie raskin from maryland, with some of the states that president trump had one back in 2016, this is the 2017 adjudication of the electoral college, and joe biden come again vice president, he said to pramila jayapal from washington state, it is over, tt is the exact quote, because there was never a senate sponsoo trigger this bicameral debate between the house and the senate, shannon. >> shannon: all right, chad, you have worked through many
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strange and upsetting days on capitol hill. i'm guessing that today is just going to be standing alone by itself. >> we will remember the 6th of january, 2021, for decades and hundreds of years, frankly, in this country. the idea that the capitol was breached. there is definitely going to be an inquest about why they did not have sufficient police forces here, you know, security. the capitol is a pretty tight place. it is a big terrorist target, and the fact you could have people break into the very sanctum of congress when they are doing this a very important work, certifying the electoral college, to put another president in the white house, and just about two weeks' time, that is remarkable. i work in this building every day, and i have never seen anything close to this, and this is where i go back. you might have to go all the way back to the 19th century, when the british burned both the white house and the capitol in
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late august of 1814. i mean, that's how bad this was. thankfully, there was a lot of concern -- i tell you, nerves are frayed. people are very nervous and jittery. there was a time where even though things calmed down, they didn't know if there were still marauders in the building. this is a big place, with underground tunnels that stretch between house and senate office buildings. there's a lot of places to hide. you know, people just had no idea, you know, if this place really was secure. and again, it was remarkable to have the house members and senate members kind of sequestered off in undisclosed locations here at the capitol before they felt that things were safe enough and brought people back into the capitol to restart this progress, and it is notable that vice president pence, who is the president of the of the senate, he never left the campus. he was here the entire time. this is a dramatic day, and the stories we are going to learn from this, an inquest of looking
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into what went wrong with the capitol police, is significant. there will definitely be some heads that roll here. mo brooks, republican from alabama, was just on the floor. there is some applause here. he is somebody who has been pushing this process, trying to petition these electoral votes. >> shannon: a lot of objection. >> yes. but he needs a senate sponsor i didn't have one. >> shannon: right. yeah, and as you said, as we have seen throughout the night, a number of senate sponsors have withdrawn, saying after the events of today they want to unite the country and they don't think this is going to get them anywhere. so we will continue to watch, especially as we get closer to pennsylvania and will check back in with you, chad. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> shannon: okay, the entire national guard from washington, d.c., in addition to troops from neighboring maryland and we are hearing additional states tonight have been mobilized in response to the storming of the capital today. correspondent lucas tomlinson has details for us tonight. he is tracking it all, good evening, lucas. >> good evening, shannon. all is calm here.
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a far cry from hours ago when that mob ransacked the capital, breaking into lawmakers offices and forcing their evacuation. the police got so overwhelmed that the national guard was forced to be called up and mobilized and i'm told that dozens of national guardsmen are now inside the capital presiding over that joint session. let's take a look at the numbers. there are 1100 members of the d.c. national guard who have been mobilized. there are over 6,000 numbers of the national guard from pennsylvania, new jersey, new york, delaware, and virginia that are in route to the nation's capital, 400 maryland and virginia state troopers have been mobilized. there's also fbi and other law enforcement trying to keep the peace. maryland's governor said he never thought he would see a day like this in america, the mob estimated to be over 40,000 strong. in a statement, the acting defense chief said he and the chairman of joint chiefs of staff mark milley spoke to the vice president, speaker pelosi, leader mcconnell, and other congressional leaders. president trump was not a most
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calls. the former defense secretary jim mattis blasted president trump and blamed him for the violence. "today's violent assault on our capital and effort to subjugate american democracy by mob rule was fomented by mr. trump. his use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election to poison our respect to our fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo-political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles and cowardice. our constitution, a republic will overcome this stain and we the people will come together again in our never-ending effort to form a more perfect union well mr. trump will deservedly be left a man without a country." one of the biggest supporters and a former -- tom cotton added "those who attacked the capital today should face the full extent of federal law. it's past time for the president to accept the results of the election, quit misleading the american people and repudiate mob violence and the centers of representatives who fan the flames by encouraging the president and -- objections
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should reverse the election results." just to show some of the extent of the damage, $50,000 worth of damage to camera equipment here. four people were killed who ransacked the capital. of course the woman an air force veteran who was shot by capital police and the curfew appears to be holding, but there's a lot of people hoping that the calm continues. shannon. >> shannon: all right, they certainly are. lucas, thank you so much. minutes after the president told a large crowd of supporters that he would "ever concede," some of them marched down pennsylvania avenue and stormed the capital. as these events played out, he and the president-elect weighed in. >> i: president trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the constitution and demand an end to this siege. >> i know your pain, i know your
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hurts, we had an election that was stolen from us. we have to have peace. if we have to have law and order. we have to respect our great people in law and order. i know how you feel. but go home and go home in pea peace. >> shannon: white house correspondent kevin corke reporting live on the ground tonight on a very busy day in washington. hello to you, kevin. >> evening, shannon, all quiet here on the eastern side of the capital. obviously and very sharp contrast to what we saw happen inside the building earlier today. the day that saw the president addressed hundreds of thousands of his supporters. >> we will never give up, we will never concede. it doesn't happen, you don't concede when they're staffed involved. >> president trump standing firm in his belief that the election was stolen, speaking for over an hour to thousands of his most ardent supporters at the same
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time congress was preparing to certify the 2020 results just down pennsylvania avenue, his own vice president became a target of desire. >> mike pence, i hope you're going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. i will tell you right now. i'm not hearing good stories. >> each house will deliver it separately on the pending objection and report its decision back to the joint session. >> vice president pence did make a rare departure from the president writing to members of congress today it is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not. anger from trump supporter's seemed to reach its boiling point just hours later. some of them storming the u.s. capitol breaking windows,
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gaining access to the legislative chambers and lawmakers offices. calls for trump to condemn the violence were quick to follow. as usual, the president took his message to twitter saying these other things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long. go home with love and in peace. remember this day forever." even some of the president of buster's closest aides say the response was not enough. former acting chief of staff and acting -- mick mulvaney saying he can stop this now he needs to do exactly that, tell these folks to go home and recently departed communications director alyssa fara called on the president to condemn this now. activity still fairly quiet here. going to step out of the camera for just a second just so you can see. it has been basically vacant for the better part of an hour and
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in fact we've been told that this sector of the capital grounds, well, we need to get out of here, so we are going to move for you here but we will stick around all the same over the next hour or so. shannon, back to you. >> shannon: all right, thank you very much, kevin. okay, there is progress on capitol hill as they worked through the states alphabetically. we know they are getting close to pennsylvania so we want to bring in not only chad pergram, because we think this might be another one of the states where they have objections. we are going to keep an eye on that, but also congressman byron donald, newly elected out of florida, he is a republican. congressman, welcome, thank you for joining us. >> good evening, shannon, thank you for having me. >> shannon: okay, it sounds like we are in pennsylvania, let's listen in for a second. >> mr. president, the certificate of electoral votes of the commonwealth of pennsylvania seems to be regular in form and authentic and it is here there from that joseph are buying jr. of the state of delaware received 20 votes for
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president and kamali d harris for the state of california received 20 votes for vice president. >> for what reason does the gentleman from pennsylvania rise? >> mr. president, sadly but resolutely i object to the electoral votes of my beloved commonwealth of pennsylvania on the ground of multiple constitutional infractions that they were not under all of the known circumstances regularly given and on this occasion i have a written objection signed by a senator and 80 members of the house of representatives. >> is the objection in writing and signed by a senator? >> yes, mr. president, it is. >> and objection presented in writing and signed by both the representative and a senator complies with the law. chapter one, title iii of the united states code, the clerk will report the objection. >> week, a united states senator and members of the house of
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representative, object to the counting of the electoral votes of the state of pennsylvania on the ground that they were not under all of the known circumstances regularly given. signed, josh carl, united states senator, scott perry, member of congress. >> are there further objections to the certificates from the commonwealth of pennsylvania? the chair here is none. the two houses will withdraw from joint session. each house will deliberate separately on the pending objection and report its decision back to the joint session. the senate will now retire to its chamber. >> shannon: okay. if what you have seen there is what we've expected would happen with pennsylvania. you've got many, many house members and you also have senator josh hawley -- in order
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to watch that written objection. the house and senate will meet separately to go through the objections with those electoral votes. with pennsylvania they will vote, come back together. one of the men who will be voting is congressman byron donald, newly elected, just morning on sunday. i can't imagine that you would have expected your start to congress would be what you experienced today and tonight with these challenges. my understanding, sir is that you were going to vote to object. will you do that tonight? >> that is correct, shannon, my intentions were to object to the electoral votes in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. i still hold that position and i'm going to do so. i'm also going to pick a time to watch the debate as well. i think one thing is clear, its bite of the tragedy that happened here the nation's capital today, the law in pennsylvania was violated the secretary of state and in my view the state supreme court. i was a former number of the florida legislature. i had a responsibility to vote on changes to our election law as a member of florida's legislature and i will tell you, there's no way that we would
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tolerate our secretary of state or even our court making such unilateral changes around the legislature. that is something that is reserved in the constitution for state legislatures. that's the reason why i oppose what happened in pennsylvania and i'm going to sit down and watch the debate like anybody else and see what the next couple of hours. >> shannon: we want to let you get back to that. a couple more questions. want to ask about one of your colleagues there, democratic congresswoman or a bush i believe she's out of misery, tweeting this. "i believe that republican numbers who have incited this domestic terrorist attack in the attempt to overturn election must face consequences. they have broken our sacred oath of office. i will be introducing a resolution calling for their expulsion." how do you respond to your new colleague? >> frankly, i think she is wrong and i think the resolution is out of line. listen, the members of congress have a constitutional responsibility to lay objections if they feel that something happened in those states. that is what we did. to bring a resolution calling for us to be removed is
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outrageous. there is not one member of the house or senate that's bringing objections that wants anything to happen like what happened today in the capital. not one of us. and so i think the resolution is out-of-bounds and frankly i think the resolution continues to cause the kind of division in our politics that's not necessary. this is a constitutional process that is happening here in the nation's capital. we are going to go about our business dealing with the commonwealth of pennsylvania and when the votes are cast there where going to mov move on to te next states. >> shannon: so sworn in on sunday, today the capital is under siege. i'm not sure exactly what you and your staff experience, your thoughts on being a new member of congress in seeing something that hasn't happened as chad pergram has told us not just in decades, but in centuries? >> well, i've got to tell you, quite shell-shocked actually. i was really concerned for my staff and really concerned for a lot of the members here at the capital. a lot of our members, excuse me, are much older than i am.
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i'm 42 years old. we have many, many women who are here who are serving their communities who were duly elected to serve and so, you know, when this happened, when the capital was breached, the number one concern for myself and a lot of the male colleagues that serve your on both sides of the i was trying to make sure that the people who are elderly here in the capital and the women were protected and we got them out of harm's way. that was number one. number two, the type of thuggish behavior that occurred here can never be tolerated. we wouldn't tolerate it in minneapolis. we wouldn't tolerate it in kenosha, wisconsin, and it should not become tolerated here in the nation's capital but i'm really thankful for capitol police and the reinforcements that came here because they were able to get this under control pretty quickly and restore order here in the nation's capital. >> shannon: congressman byron donald's, welcome to washington, we are glad you are a safe, thanks for your time, hope you will come back soon. >> thank you, shannon, have a good evening. >> shannon: tried program is sticking close too, trump
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supporter's marching in the thousands -- brazing a lot of questions about security, which got ken cuccinelli i believe on the phone, little trouble connecting technically. he knows a lot of the planning and the frets that have gone on. good to have you with us. >> always good to be with you, shannon. >> shannon: okay, let's talk about this. there have been concerns about how this played out today. a catastrophic security failure said this was an absurdity we all knew that tens of thousands of angry protesters would be on washington streets on wednesday, so there's no excuse for the resourcing failure. what went wrong back >> well, first of all, it's important to remember that the capital police report only to congress. they are not part of the executive branch and it's an
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unusual situation, the only other one like it is the supreme court police, which reports to the court itself and they are linked up with the secret service, with washington metro police, with the department of interior, which plays an unusual role, for your viewers, in washington, because there are so many national parks, the whole wall is a national park. lafayette square across from the white house, so they are -- they are intimately involved as of the department of homeland security law enforcement, secret service being one, federal protective service being another. both of those agencies rushed officers over to the capital upon request. it literally we have hundreds of officers over there from the department of homeland security and is the congressman noted, control was reestablished quickly, but that doesn't change the questions that arise from the breach in the first place. and those are going to have to be addressed by congress itself
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and i'm not sure we're all going to be very satisfied with those answers given that we all knew that the epicenter of today's events was going to be the u.s. capital. >> shannon: we did, and for those of us who have lived and worked in this area for a long time and have spent time in the capital, we know it's not an easy thing to get in there in a daily basis, on a normal basis and we've seen many big occasions -- i mean, big supreme court cases you mention on the supreme court police and the capitol police, there are so many agencies here, law-enforcement agencies here in d.c., inauguration day, state of the union is always a big one too on the capital where there are officers heavily armed and ready and we've seen it repeatedly. do you think that there wasn't under estimate on how many people would show up or what exactly the people would be planning to do today? >> well, if there hadn't been, shannon, there wouldn't have been a breach. so the real question is why and to what degree. i will say this, the
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secret service and the capital police kept members safe, that's their first priority, and they did accomplish that, so -- but that doesn't change the fact that they were put in an emergency situation because of the breach and i think it was they were overwhelmed by numbers and they expected amounted to a normal protest as opposed to the kind of aggressive behavior that we've been dealing with in other parts of the country and some in washington, d.c., though not at the capital over the last six months. and frankly, there's been an awful lot of treatment by a lot of people in congress and the media that have been accommodating of violence in lieu of protesting and we saw some of that again today and when that's allowed to go on, when a society like the united states of america accepts that, then it breeds more of it and until we all agree on a
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nonpartisan, bipartisan basis to reestablish the rule of law and to say that under all and any circumstances, violence is unacceptable, and we will continue to see it and whether it comes from the left or the right is secondary to the fact that violence is -- well -- is wrong morally and legally and has no place in our discourse or society. >> shannon: people have to agree, as you said, on a totally apolitical but very consistent basis that this behavior is not acceptable regardless of who is behind it. acting deputy dhs secretary ken cuccinelli, thanks for your time. >> good to be with you, shannon. >> shannon: senior correspondent mike tobin has been tracking development on the ground, he's been there all day as this plays out, he is no stranger to protests and dangerous situations so, mike, is it under control and quiet at this hour? what can you tell us? >> it is under control and quiet now. we know now, shannon in the course of this chaos a total of
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four people died, one woman was shot in three people died for medical emergencies and we know now from the chief of the capitol police, the woman who shot -- i should say the woman who was shot was shot by capital police officers. some 52 people were arrested, 47 of those arrested were arrested for violating curfew. it was just after 1:00 when the people started storming inside the capitol building, ultimately breaching security, running wild inside of the building itself, ransacking offices, even ransacking the legislative office in the house chambers, the chambers i should say, i asked some of the people that were out here demonstrating what was accomplished, some of them said they sent a message. others said they were here to start a revolution. others said they were here because they're angry with the media. >> this is a bubble -- living under a bubble and don't realize the balloon outside is about to pop and it's popping. it's popped. and we mad. and they're not doing anything.
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>> the vote, it was at least halted, right? they at least halted it, so i mean at least -- i would consider that a victory, but you know, i don't think this level of aggression is needed. >> the kind of damage we have seen certainly from the outside, you can see broken windows, you can see bullet scars on some of the windows. inside, a lot of broken glass. 14 police officers were wounded, two of them hospitalized, one of them said to be hospitalized with serious injuries and the chief of metro police also said that a couple of pipe bombs were found inside. muriel bowser, the mayor of d.c., has extended the emergency declaration by 15 days and what that does, it gives her a broad range of options, including financial resources, the ability to call on other resources like the national guard, and he gives her the ability to extend the curfew. shannon. back to you. speare okay, mike tobin on capitol hill, thank you very much, mike. by the way, we're learning more about the woman who died today after being shot in those
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protests on capitol hill. jeff paul has the very latest on that part of the story. good evening, jeff. >> good evening, shannon. the investigation into the shooting is still in the very early stages but here's what we know right now. the family of the woman killed has confirmed her identity. she was reportedly a 14 year veteran with the air force. we also know just the day before the shooting she sent out this tweet in response to another. "nothing will stop us. they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon d.c. in less than 24 hours, dark to light." the shooting happened after 3:00 p.m. today inside the capital as pro-trump supporter's storms that building. there is video that appears to show the incident where it shows a crowd of people inside the capital yelling. there is seemingly some confusion and chaos and then you hear a shot fired. metropolitan police later confirmed to fox news that the woman who was shot was shot by
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police and died from her injuries. a witness who recorded one of the videos that's circulating spoke with fox news a short time ago. here's how he's describing the day. >> she didn't say anything. she hit the ground and that's when i was filming and i stopped filming, that's why my videos are split into because i had to shine a flashlight on her to see if we could stop the bleeding. we put our hands on her neck to try and stop it and we just watched her eyes go wide and there was nothing we could do. >> her mother-in-law also told our local fox affiliate in d.c. that "i really don't know why she decided to do this" what is unclear though is where specifically it took place in the building and shannon comeau should also mention that in addition to this death, investigators tell us three other people died today at the riots from medical emergencies. shannon. >> shannon: all right, we hope to find out more about those in the coming days and the arrests as well.
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thank you, jeff. so with tonight's panel, let's talk about all of this. former supervisory special agent for the secret service, fox news contributor steve hilton, john, and we are going to bring in our top congressional correspondent as well, check program. chad, i want to start with you because we are now in the middle of this debate over pennsylvania and its electors. they had to have a house objective. they had many of them, they had to have a senator, they got josh hawley, so what is playing out now? >> so we have double barrel action right now. jonah goose, a democratic second term member from colorado making the case to certify pennsylvania. he is on the house floor right now. on the senate floor, the senate has just reconvened individually and mike pence has just retaken his position on the dais as president of the senate, residing there and bringing before the senate the petition basically that josh hawley leveled saying okay, i don't agree with what pennsylvania has done here, let's debate. again, everybody gets up to
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5 minutes to debate this in both the house and senate. mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, is on the floor right now and we should expect some debate from josh hawley shortly, although mike pence just said if there's no further debate, maybe they're going to go right to a vote here. this is all just happening as it unfolds. >> shannon: okay, subtract -- >> hold on one second year, shannon. i'm just listening device present pans. >> shannon: let's listen in for a second. because yes. >> is there a sufficient second? the clerk will call the role. >> miss baldwin. mr. brazile mr. bennett. mr. bennett, no. mrs. blackburn. mrs. blackburn, no. >> and in the house will continue and they will vote later. >> shannon: okay, so working through it there in the senate. then to the house, they'll come back together, at some point they will work for the rest of
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the states and, chad, we expect sometime in the middle of the night, we are already past midnight on the east coast, where the electors boats will be sealed in the official proclamation regarding president-elect joe biden will be done. >> that's right. the only other state that was kind of in play to be contested was wisconsin. and if they didn't challenge michigan and they didn't challenge nevada, they're probably not going to challenge wisconsin, which comes lavishly towards the end of the alphabet that will probably be at. if the electoral college will be certified at that stage. >> shannon: okay. chad, stick around with us and we got the rest of our panel here. i want to go back to charles moreno, who has served with the u.s. secret service and i want to get into something from congressman tim ryan, who actually oversees the subcommittee i think that controls the appropriations or connects the funding for the u.s. capitol police. he says there was a strategic breakdown for sure and you can bet your -- we are going to get to the bottom of it. i think that's pretty clever going to be a number of people who are going to be without employment very soon because
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this is an embarrassment. i know that things -- there's a lot of bureaucracy and procedure, charles, on capitol hill in washington, but it sounds like congress and ryan is ready to take some swift action if he can. >> the right committee to do that being on appropriations with direct oversight as your previous guests said, the capitol police report to congress, so they have direct oversight of the senate and house sergeant at arms, who have direct oversight of the chief of the capitol police and those officers, so it really is right in their wheelhouse, if you will, from a supervisory standpoint. so they certainly will be able to make decisions regarding leadership, regarding funding, where that funding is directed and resourcing. >> shannon: okay, john, to you, "the washington post" editorial board is saying it's time for the cabinet to get together and it invoked the 25th amendment to take the
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president out with two weeks left in his turn. they say now that the stakes are viscerally clear, mr. mcconnell and every other republican, almost all of whom bear some blame for what occurred on wednesday, have been overwriting responsibility to the nation, stopping mr. trump and restoring faith in democracy, so they are calling on republican leaders but they are also in that same piece talking but the cabinet invoking the 25th amendment. we are told tonight at least the cabinet numbers we've been able to reach, that they have not heard those conversations, but john, an historic step if they would even entertain it. >> well, i'm sorry to have to say "the washington post" apparently hasn't read the 25th amendment. the 25th the member doesn't give a vice president pence and cabinet the right to remove a president temporarily just because they think you made a bad decision. maybe president trump shouldn't have called for people to show up at washington today. maybhe should've been faster to order the national guard to come up to the capital but that doesn't mean president trump in terms of the 25th amendment is
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disabled in some way from being president. he might've just made some poor decisions that people disagree with. i would like "the washington post" editorial board to consider whether they should start calling on the same use of the 25th amendment for president biden when he takes office, what if he is slow? what if he doesn't do things they don't like? today think kamala harris should start invoking -- every time joe biden never does -- does something "washington post" doesn't like? maybe that might never have been given how close the media and the democratic party seem to be these days. but i think this is a silly, silly suggestion. >> shannon: okay, john kerry panel, stick around. we want to dip into this. i believe this is cumbersome and end user talking about the arguments that they want to make about whether the vote should be blocked or not. let's listen in. >> we have been and will continue to be a great country and a country of love. the u.s. constitution is unambiguous, madam speaker, and declaring that state legislators are the entity with the authority to said election
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procedures and to enact any changes to election law. article one, section four, clause one states the times, places, and manner of holding elections shall be prescribed in a state by the legislature thereof. the authority of election procedures lies with the state legislator, period. in pennsylvania, this authority was indisputably usurped by the pennsylvania's governor's office by the pennsylvania secretary of state and by the pennsylvania supreme court. these unlawful actions include but are not limited to accepting ballots at 8:00 p.m. on election day, and consistent applications of verified signature requirements for in person ballots versus mail-in ballots, authorizing the curing of mail-in ballots with less than 24 hours notice, to inconsistent preparedness between counties and authorizing use of unsecured drop boxes, which is not permitted in statute. such unlawful actions are to be accepted, why do we -- what do we have to look forward to next year? the pennsylvania secretary of state allowing online voting
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because it may be raining in philadelphia? it was a free-for-all. madam speaker, it was back in 2005 when then-minority leader pelosi by leading 31 democrats as they objected to the presidential election certification as they did in the last three presidential elections, when a republican won, and stated quite well actually that the members of congress have brought this challenge and are speaking up for their aggrieved constituents, many of whom have been disenfranchised in this process. this is their only opportunity to have this debate while the country is listening and is appropriate to do so. thank you for those words, madam speaker. they were appropriate then as they are now. if there is an american ideal that all citizens regardless of party affiliation can agree upon, it's that we must have election integrity, we should not certify these electors which
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were derived by unlawful actions and our results of inaccurate vote tallies. i yield the remainder of my time to representative joyce. >> shannon: okay, your listening in. the house is now talking through objections to the electoral votes for pennsylvania. i believe the senate has wrapped up whatever conversation or debate they were having in his voting or getting ready to vote. we are monitoring both sides because they both have to go through this process and then come back together and then combine their votes on whether there is actually to be an objection to these pennsylvania electoral votes. let's check in with chad pergram to get an update on where we are. >> we are almost at the very end of the alphabet in the united states senate as they are voting on the pennsylvania slate of electors here. they're getting down the ws year so we will have a result her soon. it will take a minute to calibrate this. again, 99 senators in the senate right now, one vacancy, they have not actually sworn in jon
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ossoff. purdue is not a senator. kamala harris was in the senate chamber earlier. she's coming in obviously as vice president here in a couple of weeks and still is a senator from california. she was casting votes, but they just about wrapped this vote up in the senate. it will take a minute to make sure that they have crossed all the teas and dotted the eyes and mike pence will announce the total, inevitably this will go to certify the electoral vote from pennsylvania and then we will have another break from the senate because the house is still debating the pennsylvania slate. they have not yet gone to the vote there, so they have to wait a little bit of time until the house finishes its debate, then the vote itself will probably take close to an hour and then we carry on with the rest of the alphabet and then they finally ostensibly have certify the electoral college for the presidential election for 2020, which means that joe biden will be sworn in on the 20th of january, but we still of a couple hours of work ahead of us here on capitol hill, shannon.
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>> shannon: with your help we will continue to track it. thank you. so minutes after finishing a night of live reporting for fox news last may we were here on the air, correspondent leland vittert and his team were attacked by left-wing protesters just across the street from the white house, so we went has reported on numerous protests in our nation's capital over the last seven months. his domicile on the world. back with us tonight to trace the timeline of civil unrest, but first, reaction to today's events pouring in from across the political spectrum tonight. let's check in there. good evening, leland. >> good evening to you, good morning as it was. the list of prominent republicans supporting the president and his speech today is rather short. even some of his most ardent supporters are talking more about the process and the crowds righteous anger rather than support for mr. trump's rally today. >> and here's the problem. on one hand, congress as an institution has stood up and do its job but another important institution has failed us, which is the media, because whose job is it to debunk the lies?
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it's the media 'us jobs to debunk the life of the problem is from a trump supporters perspective, these are the same people who spread for two years the russia collusion conspiracy theory. they don't trust the media, and so we lost the only arbiter of truth that we have, which is the independent free past. >> how dangerous it is in our time, society, to not be able to trust the media and i've been saying this for years and years. when we can't trust on either side, really, what the information that's being fed to us -- yeah, things like this will be a result because there is so much frustration out there that some misguided, very, very wrong-headed yahoos are out there causing this mayhem. >> big tech is having none of this. facebook bans the president for 24 hours. twitter blocked his account for 12 hours, two of the former defense secretaries wrote different statement.
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mark esper, this afternoon's assault was appalling and un-american. not as citizens of the world's greatest and oldest democracy [indiscernible] illegal acts were inspired by partisan misinformation and patently false claims about the election. this must end now for the good of the republic. this from former secretary mattis, general matters. today's violent assault on our capital in an effort to subjugate american democracy was tormented by mr. trump using the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo-political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profile and cowardice. mitt romney explained it this way. we gather today, he said due to a selfish manifesto b.s. injured pride. spin all right, well, leland, and thinking about through today and all you went through last year, does it take you back to that one particular night that really got not so good for you and your crew? >> sadly, yes, because the more
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things changed, the more they stay the same. all the things we never thought would happen seem to be happening. the attempt to storm the white house this past summer, the storming of the capital today with, similar, level of anger by the protesters and rioters and they believe that their ends justify the means. on that night that our crew was attacked in may, we were confronted and harassed by black lives matter protesters for a few hours before. in the same way, today i was confronted by protesters demanding to know if i was a patriot, in their words, who supported the president. at the time they had no idea i was a journalist but they would come up to people in the street all over the city and ask if you are a patriot and then demand some type of oath of allegiance to the president. it wasn't just me but i talked to others who experienced the same intimidating behavior miles from the capital and anyone who's around downtown d.c. during the black lives matter protest experienced the exact same kind of intimidation. >> shannon: okay, so what about the difference in aftermath? now, you know, a very different
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protest playing out across the country last year and now into this. >> for sure very different. so fortunate we haven't seen any business is, churches burned like we did late may or early june here in d.c. no police cars were set on fire, no molotov cocktails, and that's a good thing, but back to the point of real anger on the streets in june and now i said, the night that we talked just ahead of me being attacked in front of the white house was that if people are willing to go toe-to-toe with the secret service, get pepper sprayed and keep at it, it's worth taking time to understand what they are angry about in the same way, tens of thousands of people came from around the country at their own expense, we talked to them about where they were from and how they got here. they spent a day in the bitter cold because they are angry and never buddy i talked to believe the election had indeed been stolen, they believed in their heart of hearts that today would be the reckoning and on the president said this was their chance to change things, they really believed they had a chance to change things, shannon, and understanding that anger and where it's coming from
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is important as well. can't lose sight of that. >> shannon: you. well, we are glad you're safe then and today as well. thanks so much. let's get back to our panel. to talk about what we've seen play out and now is their debate in pennsylvania over on the hill and continuing that process, i want to bring in steve hilton along with charles and john and chad pergram continues to be with us on the hill as well. steve, you saw part of the conversation there about big tech and how they're handling this tonight. there are those on social media were saying oh, okay, so the ayatollahs and the chinese communist officials can continue to post on twitter without a whole lot hand slapping or trouble and yet they are acting very slickly with respect to president trump today. >> that's exactly right. we were talking about this earlier. it's just totally inconsistent. it's arbitrary and it's politically-driven. because as they showed during the election campaign i in the final stages, they picked a side.
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they were working for joe biden. you saw that, and that is part of the reason, remember, that so many people in this country think that the election wasn't fair. they can see what was going on. they could see the big media companies 100% behind joe biden, only covering stories that were helpful to joe biden, anything that was hopeful to president trump they would ignore, anything that was problematic for joe biden, they would ignore. same with big tech. directly censoring those stories towards the end of the campaign that could have been some way hurt joe biden's campaign and so that's the patten they've established. they used to say they were just a neutral platform to be able to express themselves. they are not taking aside politically in this country at least for the democrats or joe biden against trump and against his supporters and that's one of the reasons people think the election wasn't fair.
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they've contributed to the rage and anger that leland was just talking about. big tech is absolutely part of the problem. >> shannon: charles, as we have heard, the expectations from social media, they are worried about the incitement of violence, but i thought some of what the president had to say would be toward and not away from violence. we've seen images from inside the capital, the videos, the stills, the destruction that's there. what happens next for cleaning up and securing the capital as we know these d.c. mayors putting in a curfew that's going to extend it sounds like all the way through inauguration day. how did they secure the capital, secure that event and move forward so these members could get their work done safely? >> words matter in the example that you get, certainly, as the possibility to incite or be interpreted the wrong way, for others to incite, i think you're going to see the capital police will have the additional resources be at the
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national guard and other federal and local agencies to assist with their security plan for the next 14 days, certainly through the inauguration at least, but the bigger question here, shannon, is what's the deterrent to prevent this from happening again? i just folded up to make sure that i had it correctly, but if you look at the definition on the fbi website for domestic terrorism, what happens today fits the bill. and so we really need to hold these people accountable in the way they carried out these violent acts today, criminal acts today to pursue an ideological goal which was to turn the political outcome in a different direction. if the crime fits the bill, we need to start charging accordingly. i think gone are the days of the simple criminal trespass, local charges, a day in jail with a $500 fine. we haven't seen what happened today since the mid-1800s. this could have turned out much worse today and thankfully the
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building wasn't burned to the ground. so we got away with one today, but now we need to put forth a very clear deterrent in the future, in my opinion. >> shannon: early on the channel we heard from a young man who was right there at that 14 year air force veteran was shot. she said she was a rampaging, wasn't causing trouble, yes she was inside the capital but there were others who are much more destructive and amped up and ready for violence so when you see somebody caught up in it who, you know, was part of -- up your protest and what you thought was an unfair election, it's just heartbreaking and you hope that people will be held responsible for what they did incite today and over going those barriers and pushing aside the capital police officers, really desecrating a lot of areas inside the capital, what will be the process for holding them, i'm assuming most of these will be federal charges.
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>> it's a crime to attack federal officers, it's a crime to try to attack our elected representatives. you know, i used to work in the senate building. i was a member of the staff of the senate judiciary committee far too long ago and i feel bad for the dilemma that the capital police face. it is the people's house. they do want the people to be able to participate in government, to protest, if necessary, to talk to the representative's, but they also have to have a firm hand if things get out of control and things get violent, and he think the police were a little too lax today. the other thing i just want to emphasize is it was a tragic day but one thing we should remember is that the real action, the real way that we select the president is in the states and i think today even though we saw this violence, we saw this disruption, and actually underscores the wisdom of our framers was not to let washington, d.c., pick the president, to let the states do it, to let the states were on election systems, the congress is just here to count the votes
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and no amount of violence and rioting in disruption was able to prevent that function from going forward and for the country to pick a new president and to peacefully transfer. >> shannon: chad, you are caught in the middle of all of this today as the folks were there. frustrated, angry, some of them have been planning openly, as we talked about earlier in the show, online to go and to wreak havoc and do things that are unlawful and yet this process, this body always continues. after 9/11, after what happened today, to get to work, these members show up and they are getting the people's business done. >> really remarkable too. on one hand you had this disturbing scene early this afternoon where you had these marauders bolting into the building and then tonight, you know, right now, they are carrying on the people's business. since we've been on the air the past couple of minutes here, the senators voted to accept the slate of votes, electoral votes from pennsylvania, the boat
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there was 92-7. the vote to accept arizona, 93-6, somebody was switched, and to figure out which senator that was, but here we are almost 1:00 in the morning and they are carrying on with the people's business. i will say this and this is what we're going to hear a lot about over the next couple of days and weeks and months about what led to this incursion. the capital police train constantly to evacuate the chamber, to deal with demonstrators at their police training facility in suburban maryland, they have a mark of the capital, situated like the office buildings where you have like a member's office, you have a staircase that looks like the staircase in the capital, even with the groups, you know, that exist on the capital staircase because so many people have gone up and down them over the past couple hundred years and they train on those steps and in those facilities for situations just like this. i did a story several years ago, i was there with them. in fact i think it aired on one of your programs over the weekend some years ago and to have this happen, the fact that
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they train all the time, members of congress are not going to be very happy about this in tim ryan, from the appropriations committee, they control the purse strings. he deals with the legislative branch. each year they give the capital police more and more money. you know, there was a big outcry for the shooting of gabrielle giffords, there was a big outcry after the shooting of steve scalise and they provide other resources here. but here they have all of these resources at the capital and they barged in. it's really extraordinary. we are going to her so much more about this in the coming weeks, especially in preparation for the inauguration on the 20 january. >> shannon: and charles, i want to bump back to you on that because we talked about the presence that's normally oliver l first days like this, state of the union, inauguration, this was going to be very different anyway because of the pandemic, we wouldn't expect the same level of crowds but it's clear they will be bad actors who may be interested in showing up. there have been strange threats about foreign adversaries wanting to avenge the death,
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say, of [indiscernible] and try something in the capital. how in the world to our agencies manage all of the threats and like the inauguration now less than two weeks away? >> sure, we just had the breach earlier today of the faa radio system in which a recording said that the death of solomonic will be advanced by aircraft strike against the u.s. capital specifically today, so we know that foreign adversaries are paying attention to this. they are paying attention with how this group was able to gain access into the capital. that's what troubles me are the most. we have other domestic groups and international groups that have far more evil, you know, goals in mind and against some of the structures we have and against some of the people that occupy them. you know, one thing that's important though here is separating the people of the capital police and the strategy, right? mean, absolutely capital police have some of the best people i've ever worked with. they are highly trained, but the bigger question -- i mean we've
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all spent time at the capital. we know how they performed each and every day. the bigger question is the strategic question that is where they set up for success today? >> shannon: we got to leave it there, thank you, panel on an incredibly stressful, historic day. let's check some of the moments from today. >> passing police, tearing down the barrier. [indiscernible]. [crowd chanting "usa"] [sirens] >> without objection, the house is going to go back into recess.
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[indiscernible]. [indiscernible]. >> our house! >> security here at the united states capital has fail failed. >> they broke the glass. >> shannon: some of the sights and sounds today, jon scott and gillian turner pick it up from here. most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you --
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♪ >> assault on democracy. a mob of protesters angry over the election results stormed to the hallowed halls of our nation's legislative beacon. unprecedented scenes of chaos and fear, witnessed live in our homes and around the world on a day when congress had gathered to carry out what our constitution's most sacred traditions. column has been restored in the capital but the scar is more a time-honored peaceful transition of power. this could take a while to heal. hello, i am jon scott in

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