prediction here and follow up with you later. griff: so much news coming out of washington. don't touch the dial. it continues into the next hour. alicia, thanks. turn it over to new york. eric: social media shutdown on this saturday. twitter permanently banning president trump's account and other big-big tech companies taking action limiting action from others from going online. the account could be used to further incite violence following capitol riots that we saw on wednesday as threats of violence, yes, even assassination threats are now being reported on other internet sites. hello, everyone, welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm eric sean and arthel is back. hi, arthel. arthel: nice to be back with you, eric. i'm arthel neville. twitter's move, eric, is coming after months of flagging president trump's tweeting for

disinformation surrounding the presidential election. meanwhile facebook and instagram are also blocking president at least to the end of time in office. let's go to charles watson, live in atlanta with the very latest, charles. charles: hi, arthel, social media giants like facebook and twitter are facing major backlash for what some see as those companies trying to silence conservative speech. hud secretary ben carson hitting send on rebuke after twitter permanently suspended president trump's account in a tweet carson saying, quote, silencing a significant number of voters in a race in history is no way to unite us, want to act like media but don't want to be held accountable like the rest of the media. free should be free whether you agree or not. aclu pushing back against big-tech companies, chief

legislative counsel saying in a statement everyone should be concerned when companies like -- make those decisions easier. parlor ceo blasted google friday after the so-called free speech app was removed from google's play store. google wasn't really concerned about violence about the tech giant accused parlor of helping to incite violence after a mob stormed the capitol earlier this week. meanwhile some democrats are calling social media companies, calling out social media companies for not acting sooner. democratic senator richard, it took blood and glass in halls of congress for most powerful tech companies to recognize at the

last possible moment the threat of trump and, guys, after twitter removed president trump's account, hundreds if not thousands of folks vowing to leave twitter of removing the president's account, arthel. arthel: charles watson, live in atlanta, thank you. eric. eric: for his part, president trump is pushing back calling twitter a, quote, enemy of free speech after permanent suspension of his account. meanwhile house speaker nancy pelosi blames the president for the attack on the capitol. in an interview to be aired, two days after her own office was rand sacked by the protime rioters, she's calling for immediate action to be taken by congress against the president. >> sadly the person in the executive branch is deranged, unhinged dangerous president of the united states and a number

of days until we can be protected from him. he has done something so serious that there should be prosecution against him. eric: not just prosecution but a second round of impeachment hearings expected to start possibly next week. david spunt live at the white house with reaction from there. david. david: eric, if president trump is impeached again, he would be the first president in history to be impeached twice. he also announced he's not going to president elect joe biden's inauguration, that's the first time a president has not done so since president andrew johnson did the same thing to grant in 1869, house speaker nancy pelosi gave a clear ultimatum to the president. she said basically, resign or we will go ahead and impeach you. democrats are circulating an article called incitement of insurrection after the mob stormed the capitol trashing it, 5 people including a capitol police officer named bryan

sitkink tragically died. there's no appetite for the vice president to invoke 25th amendment. if the house does pass impeachment articles the senate would hold another trial, that may not be till january 19th, day before president trump is set to leave the office. deputy press secretary as president trump said yesterday, this is a time for healing and unity as one nation of politically motivateed impeachment against a president that has done a great job on 12 days remaining. house speaker nancy pelosi says she spoke with general mark melly, assured her there are several controls in place regarding the nuclear launch codes, pelosi is worried about the president acting in anger. she said, quote, the situation of this unhinged president could not be more dangerous and we must do everything that we can to protect the american people

from his unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy. as far as that twitter ban is concerned that charles was talking about certainly making a lot of news at the white house. many staffers in the administration taking to their personal pages to complain about it including secretary of state mike pompeo who calls the move dangerous. eric. eric: all right, david, at the white house, thank you. arthel. arthel: eric and david, more now on president trump's permanent twitter suspension, james freeman, fox news contributor. james, did twitter make the right call? james: i think they made the right call in the sense that they are a private sense. they can make the decisions. i'm not one of these people that thinks stakeholders, so-called who don't run the company ought to tell them how to run it. once again, we are seeing an agenda at work here to silence certain voices and i know that

that's a voice a lot of people would like to silence right now but -- but the -- the issue with twitter and whether they are seeking to embrace to now democratic senator, this is how they feel, what you see is a glaring double standard. they've allowed spokesman for horrible regimes around the world to use the platform. you can go on there any day of the week and see highly objectionable material that perhaps for political reasons they don't take down. i think it's a problem in terms of if they want to say they are an open forum allowing the world to communicate. article article and i get your point about some some of the otr heinous stuff that's posted on twitter and other social media forms but let's keep it right here to the issue at hand and this is all a reaction to what happened on wednesday. does society including the president, james, have a

responsibility to not use the platform recklessly? james: i think we all have a responsibility as citizens. i think the best news of the day is the recent news that two more people who perpetrated that disgraceful assault on the capitol have been arrested, charged in dci should say in federal courts. one man from arizona, one from florida. as far as responding to that awful day, and i think such prosecutions will help make sure it never happens again, an effort to -- to silence other voices. i don't think it's really the -- the spirit of defending this wonderful republic that -- that we cherish and that suffered so much an awful day on wednesday. arthel: james, i want to get through a couple of questions so if you would bear me and try to help me get through these because meanwhile google has

suspended parlor from app store and threatened to kick parlor out of store, apple, unless it submits a plan on how to moderate content. is this an issue of controlling free speech or, quoting twitter now, due to risk of further incitements of violence? james: again, these are private companies. i think they can run their networks how they want to. if they're claiming a legal basis, you know, none of this has been adjudicated, but i also think if they want to be more open about speech that that they regard is unacceptable, we are running on google standard, apple standard or twitter standard, i don't think that is compatible ultimately with this section 230 law that we talk about in terms of protecting them from various lawsuits for -- for things that are published

on their platform. i think they are now opening themselves up and i think you will see the courts look again at whether that protection has been too broad. arthel: yeah, i see your point. meanwhile explain why is social media so critical and important to president trump? james: well, it's obviously been a huge platform for him. he feels like it's a way or felt like it's a way to get his message out that isn't being carried or treated fairly in much of the media. obviously for people who love him and people who hate him, it has been a source of news and commentary and very -- i mean, it's part of our public discussion, so you know, limiting the amount of information that we are all sharing with each other is usually not a great idea. obviously there are -- there are cases where that -- that's appropriate but if you look at

the standards they've applied, they really haven't been consistent and i think that's why there is so much frustration among many people who want that to be, i gather, as the aclu wants more an open forum. arthel: if i can get a yes or no answer, president trump still has 11 days remaining in office, do you expect that he will get in front of a tv camera and address the nation? james: i don't know. he put out that video on thursday. that was generally a positive statement, i think. i think he missed an opportunity saying he's not going to the inauguration. i think it would have been a moment finally to acknowledge that joe biden will be our president and to wish him well. i know it may seem unlikely in this environment, but i was -- i was hoping that might be the case. whether he will choose to -- to do more televised remarks, i couldn't say. arthel: okay, well, we will leave it there james freeman. thank you very much for joining

us. eric. eric: pick up the telephone and call us right now if he wants. meanwhile another news indonesian official says the passenger jet went missing shortly after takeoff. it crashed in the javas sea. 62 people on board took off from the capital of jakarta, then it lost contact with control tower. local media says that pieces of debris have been turning up in the sea. that jet 26 year's old is not a model 737 max that you know the maxes were grounded after two previous crashes. ryan following in london, ryan. >> air traffic controllers lost contact with 737 524 minutes after they took off of jakarta,

the capital of indonesia, 90-minute long domestic flight, island hopper, if you will, the pilot spoke with air controllers and requested permission to ascent to 29,000 feet and everything appeared to be going normal until the plane lost 10,000 feet in less than a minute and disappeared from radar. fishermen were amongst the first to find wreckage of the aircraft. they were out there in the waters just north of jakarta and the search continues for survivors but these aren't easy eric, jakarta is 12 hours ahead of you, it's the middle of the night. smack in the middle of monsoon season now. keep in mind, this is from boeing 737 series and it did not have automated antistall system that caused to be ground.

a max did go down in same area over 2 years ago. this is not what this is. little consoleation and indonesia has history of tragedies. there are literally thousands of islands in indonesia and air travel is the easiest way to get around. eric, the search and rescue mission continues. but as i was saying it's raining and we are still 4 hours from run size, eric. eric: very difficult conditions. arthel: sad. eric, more arrests being made after domestic terrorists storm capitol hill on wednesday. next we take a look at what went wrong with the security as lawmakers certified the 2020 presidential election.

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arthel: north korean leader kim jong un reportedly threatening to expand nuclear arsenal and develop more sophisticated weapon system unless the u.s. abandons what he's calling it's, quote, hostile policy according to state media. analysts say the comments are a way to apply pressure on the incoming administration of

president elect joe biden. eric: well, the justice department says it will spare no resources after the maga-mob led assault on our capitol, murder investigation underway for the killing of capitol police officer brian sitnik, officer was injured while, quote, physically engaged with protestors hit in the head apparently with a thrown fire extinguishers, busting through the doors and attacking police and in some cases police let them in and security concerns as lawmakers question how it could happen and cause for more attacks now online, can we defend the heart of our very democracy, former fbi agent who is with us. do you think the majority of those who engaged in criminal conduct, do you think they would be held accountable?

>> i absolutely do. i know the -- i know the weight of the federal government and the fbi in particular after 20 years on the fbi response team and also i know the hearts of those law enforcement officers with the capitol police department who lost their brother brian sitnik and my heart goes out to them. these people will pour everything they have into this investigation and it will span everything from scouring social media forms, trying to use facial recognition, putting together a timeline that will very closely line up who was there, what their role was, what they destroyed and hold them responsible for their actions. eric: what if someone says, look, i was there but i didn't engage in any violent conduct, i didn't throw anything at all, i was just standing there, are they still in violation because they entered the capitol building without the appropriate

requirements and safety requirements or how about those who just walked in a door because the police officer opened it up? >> well, that's different. that's a different story. we are talking about people who broke barriers, assaulted and killed a law enforcement officer and were violently destroying our nation's capitol. all those crimes need to be punished and all those crimes will be punished, i'm very confident of that. now, if someone may have plausible deniability, by the time i got to the door, the door was wide open, no one telling me to stop, that's a different scenario. eric: and i guess going through a window, though would be different scenario than that. you know, the police -- >> absolutely. >> eric: the police leaders have come under criticism calls and they've resigned. here is what the capitol police union chief says about all of this. quote, once the breach was

inevitable, we prioritized lives over property leading people to safety, not one member of congress or staff was injured. our officers did their jobs, our leaders did not and kenneth spencer, the union of the park police says this, quote, it's disheartening to say the least when officers were turned news reports that featured members of congress and political parties who continued to lose. a officers as ponds in the political process. ultimately, they were overrun by the mob and many of our law enforcement brothers and sisters were injured an one is now dead and putting lives on the line to assist legislators. the debate over this over the danger and the precautions and what they faced on the line of this frenzied out of control violent deadly mob. >> eric, you're absolutely right. this isn't the first time that

law enforcement has been thrown under the bus for any -- any bad things that have happened throughout this year. they are the first one, in fact, to be thrown under the bus. in that regard, i do agree with that union leader. however, i do think that the open source intelligence or the teams that were out there were bringing forth some information that was steering us toward, you know, what happened on wednesday and i think that it would have been, you know, a better plan to have something else in place, that being said, i wasn't party to any of those conversations that the law enforcement entities or the police municipalities had with the parties, the governing bodies that were there. i will tell you that it's been -- it's been known over the last year that many times police have been told to stand down and they don't want them to appear to be militaristic in nature or anything and that perhaps that could have been part of this and

that could be what the union representative is referring to. eric: critics say that the opposite was seen during the black lives matter and antifa protests that did result in damage in downtown washington. do you think maybe they should have been in buses in office buildings so when they started they would have been called more quickly? >> hind signature -- hindsight is 2020. i would say it's a better idea. after 9/11, most fbi buildings were fortified to an extent that is far greater than what we saw unfold on wednesday. i was surprised that it's easy to get in and out as we saw, however, i do know that security being a security expert myself, that security does take time and it is not always convenient. so if you do have great

security, you are going to have security protocols which are cumbersome and can be very, you know, unappealing to some government entities, some politicians. eric: finally, your thoughts on brian sitkink, capitol police officer from new jersey, officer had been deployed abroad, our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family at the moment. a hero if there ever was one, a name that we should never forget, marine, your reflections. >> my heart is broken. i come from a family of first responders. i'm the wife and mother and granddaughter and the niece and the sister of law enforcement officers, so to hear that just breaks my heart. eric: god bless you and your family, god bless the law enforcement officers who are protecting all of us in this country and we thank -- >> and going to work every day and never knowing if they're going to come home. thank you, eric.

eric: that's for sure out there right now. thank you. arthel. arthel: indeed, eric, thank you. well the petition to rerecall governor gavin newsom attracting more than 100 million signatures, this comes as governor sue -- newsom proposes 202 billion-dollar budget and faces criticism over coronavirus pandemic in in the state. let's go to christina coleman, live in los angeles with more. hi, christina. christina: 9 weeks left to get all of those signatures and organizers say they are confident that they can do this. now a group called the california patriot coalition recalled gavin newsom 2020 is behind the effort. unaffordable housing, record crime has shown newsom failed california. this is the sixth time voters

have recalled newsom but the first time such an effort coincided with the pandemic which has critics up in arms over response. the la times reporting that within a month within newsom going to ill-advised dinner at the french laundry, the recall effort collected more than 420,000 signatures. that's about 380,000 more signatures than what was collected in the 5 months prior. while some democrats urge newsom to take recall seriously, the governor is moving on with business. just yesterday he sent 227 billion-dollar budget proposal to the state legislature for the upcoming fiscal year. it devotes more than $14 billion to covid initiative. including more funding for vaccines and 2 billion to safely reopen classrooms, $1.1 billion in immediate aid to small businesses and $600 to low-income workers. all this while defending the state over big businesses that have recently moved to other

states. >> this budget reflects the state is doing pretty damn well and we have a lot of work to do to help small and medium-size businesses. foal, -- folks at the top are doing pretty damn well, but i respect it. christina: they have until march 17th to collect all signatures needed to trigger a special election, arthel. arthel: christina coleman live in los angeles, thank you. eric. eric: well, as you have been reported social media titans banning president trump from platforms, but does the crack-down go to far zinc formula. it shortens colds! zicam zinc that cold!

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arthel: bottom of the hour, time for top headlines, search and rescue underway after indonesian jetliner carrying 62 people crashes into the java sea today

minutes after taking off capital of jakarta. buckingham palace now seeing queen elizabeth and husband prince philip receiving vaccinations against covid-19. both are in their 90's putting them in the priority category for the country's vaccine rollout. and jeopardy airing final episode featuring iconic host alex trebek featuring montage, taped last october, one month before trebek passed after long battle with pancreatic cancer. alex trebek was 80 year's old. eric: facebook and twitter caught up in the controversy for suspending president trump's account after riots on capitol hill this week.

twitter banned him permanently it says and facebook until end of term. je -- giano caldwell. what do you think about this action? gianno: first off, thank you for having me. i was out of the country when our attack happened at our sacred institution, u.s. capitol and leaders across the world have denounced president trump encouraging supporters to go to the capitol knowing he has passionate supporters and who knows what they might have done and as a result people did die, so that unfortunate act happened, now in terms of the censoring, if twitter wants to

censor president trump, it's their right, it's a private company, however, you should have equality when you're talking about censoring and honestly if you look at the platform now you can censor the whole dang thing. just yesterday there was trending name hang mike pence, how is that appropriate? section 230 given the protections for twitter, instagram, facebook and others should really be revoked because there's an equality across the platform. if you can have world leaders of different affiliations no matter what their politics may be but that use twitter to send out threatening messages, how can you allow them to remain on the platform, that's a question a lot of folks across the country, whether they be conservatives or not are asking. eric: north korea have a social media site and ayatollah has

social media site? gianno: absolutely. in 2018 there was 245 million people using social media websites over almost 20% of those individuals if not more get their politics or rather information on their political beliefs from social media, 90% of conservatives believe that big tech is against them in censoring them and we see actions which prove out that that is actually the case. i've lost within the last few days over 15,000 twitter followers and i encourage people to follow me at gianno caldwell. something has to change and unfortunately we may not see that change because democrats are about to take control of the senate. they have control of the house and the white house and when we look at the folks who were on joe biden's transition team, a number of individuals from the big tech democrats supporting him. so i'm not looking to see any real changes take place but what we are seeing right now is

probably what's going to happen over the course of the next 4 years which will be purging of conservatives on the big-tech websites and it's very disappointing. eric: but here is a tweet. twitter is a private company and has no obligation to let itself be used as tool for insurrection, there are threats now, you just mentioned parlor, there's threats on parlor calls to execute and assassinate the vice president of the united states. here is another one, many of us return on january 19, 2021 carrying weapons in support of nation's revolver -- resolve which the world will never forget. i mean, you can't yell fire in a theater. what happens when you have insightful, hateful, inflammatory calls to violence against our government and our country? this is the first amendment, that deals with the government preventing the stifling of free speech, but what about this? no one would endorse or accept

this type of violent disgusting language that's on the social media sites, so why shouldn't they all be banned when people are doing this with no control or no sense or no sense of respect or decency or dignity at all about their fellow americans even if they may politically disagree with them? gianno: and you mentioned parlor and you provided examples on parlor with people providing suggestive commentary in terms of attacking the vice president, but this is actually happening on twitter as well. just yesterday, i mentioned, hang vice president mike pence. that's -- that was trending. that's a highlighted section of the twitter platform. so why is it those users weren't banned and censored, why is that? why is it when democrats attack conservatives, it's seemingly okay. you rarely see those accounts at least from my read of it and what i see in the reporting, you rarely see those accounts censored, why is that okay? that's why so many conservatives

that are leaving platforms like twitter, facebook and instagram because all of a sudden they have no voice. so we are just going to see an echo chamber of democratic and liberal voices trying to control what we see going in our country. eric: well, you hit it on the head. echo chamber. that's one reason why we have divisions in the country right now. gain -- >> gianno: we do. you saw the hunter biden story prior to the election where they censored that. you see they are kicking folks off the platform right now. we are going to continue to see for the next 4 years, i believe, based on what we saw on this short amount of time more voices being silent and our country even more divided because people believe they can't be heard and who knows what that may actually lead to, if folks can give political opinion on social media, who knows what actions they may take in their own hands to deliver a message.

eric: don't say that. do not say that. no, do not say that. that's totally uncalled for. who knows what actions people will take in their own hands? gianno: i want to be clear. eric: please clarify what you just said. gianno: i certainly don't want anyone to assume that i'm suggesting anyone is threatening violence or some sorts. forgive me, i don't understand how you took it in that direction. i'm saying to you that people want to be heard. that's why they go out and protest, that's why they go out and do whatever they do. with the silencing of these individuals, people could try to take things in their own hands as we have seen in the past. certainly i would never ever, i don't know where you're going with that, eric, to think that i would ever suggest some form of people taking, going with violence. i have no idea what people would do. we didn't know what they were going to do last week, i have no idea what's going on here.

but i'm just telling you people want to be heard. if there's any confusion around that, i just want to be clear on that as point of clarification because i would never, ever suggest anything of that nature, anything nefarious. eric: gianno, that's why i stopped you for that, gianno caldwell, thank you for your insight. arthel. arthel: president elect biden calling president trump one of the most incompetent presidents in the history of the u.s. after mr. biden introduced more of cabinet picks and as house democrats consider a second impeachment of president trump. hillary vaughn is live in wilmington, delaware with more. hi, hillary. hillary: hi, arthel, well, even with those harsh words, president elect biden says he would still rather wait for president trump to finish out the ten days left in his term than back calls for using the

25th amendment to remove him from office. >> if we were six months out, we should be doing everything to get him out of office, impeaching him again, invoke, trying to invoke the 25th amendment, whatever it took to get him out of office but i'm focused on us taking control as president and vice president on the 20th and to get our agenda moving as quickly as we can. >> biden announced the final members of his economic team pick for labor secretary and commerce secretary but biden had to clear the air about why he passed over one of the most powerful progressives for the job of labor secretary and instead chose boston mayor marty walsh. >> after tuesday's results in georgia, democratic control of the united states senate and tie vote, bernie and i agreed, as a matter of fact, we can't put

control of the senate at risk in the outcome of the election in vermont. we agreed we couldn't take the chance. >> the slim majority is key to getting progressive priorities through congress and on president elect biden's desk. the ceiling of possibility is now higher on every progressive priority to start, we can avoid internal friction by passing the 3 trillion coronavirus relief bill. adding the $2,000 checks we just won on and easily pass the 2 trillion clean air biden, he said the price tag for that is going to be high, arthel. arthel: hillary vaughn, thank you very much, hillary. eric. eric: arthel, the coronavirus vaccine rollout is slower than

it's supposed to be in parts of the country. cases and sadly deaths surging to record highs, we will have the latest on the growing and continuing coronavirus pandemic when we continue.

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system that you mentioned bringing energy to central rockies. that's where snow is currently falling, that will slowly drift off towards the south and towards the east, bringing you in on it. that came from the pacific northwest. it's moving off towards south and east, currently over the rockies, this will fall into portions of oklahoma, down into texas, some spots that typically don't see the type of snow that may be seeing. winter storm watches and warnings from portions of southern colorado getting you all the way across desert southwest and then into texas and then as far off to the east of louisiana. this is going to be the system we are paying attention to and as i said, snowfall in areas, west texas, you maybe seeing snow from time to time, but typically you don't get snow south of dallas, these are areas we are paying attention to and, again, it's all being done because some of the cold air that we are currently dealing. eric: all the way down to waco. we will be right back.

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arthel: president elect biden planning to get millions of americans vaccinated with plans to run federally licenses rather than hold some back for second doses. joining us marty makary.

starting with the vaccines, is it better or potentially have 75% of the population with 50 to 60% and risk and to have a much smaller portion of the population with no vaccine protection while the virus runs ramped? >> the former. we should not be holding back any second doses of the vaccine. look, a lot of people are frustrated that the government has decided to hold back 50% of vaccine apply to reserve second doses and additional 5% buffer. that means out of all vaccine out there, it only represents 45% of the supply. a lot of us have said let's look at the data, 62% protection we think at 14 days after the first dose and as high as 80 to 90% in 30 days after the first dose. we need to get as many first doses out there as possible. arthel: i will circle back if i

can, meanwhile, there's a new model from the cdc that shows estimated 59% of people with the coronavirus are asymptomatic including 35% who are presymptomatic, what do you make of this? until everyone wants to get vaccinated are, what's the best way to protect ourselves? doctor: the infection has been so difficult in terms of communicating with the public that even though you feel great you can still be a super spreader and that has been why this is so different from other coronaviruses that have circulated seasonally from influenza and other things. remember, from this study published in the journal of the american association, 59% get virus from someone who feels great. arthel: do you think pfizer can produce tens of millions vaccines and moderna for second dose -- doctor: yeah.

arthel: what people people don't get the second shot? doctor: request you miss -- if you miss it by a day or week or a month, the added protection of second dose is much smaller than protection of second dose. our problem is not people not getting their second dose, our problem is people are dying when they could be getting a first dose. arthel: understood, dr. marty makary, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. eric, you and i are back up in one hour. 4:00 p.m. eastern. journal editorial report is up next. eric: we are are, arthel, see everybody then. take care. ♪ ♪

paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i am paul gigot. calling for president trump's removal following wednesday's storming of the united states capital by a pro trump mob that left five dead including a capital police officers lawmakers from both parties condemning violence in the president's role. earlier i spoke with her husband senator pat toomey of pennsylvania about the events of january 6 and what should happen next as president trump enters his final days of office. >> senator toomey. good to have you here.