tv Justice With Judge Jeanine FOX News January 10, 2021 4:00pm-5:00pm PST
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♪. judge jeanine: breaking tonight, apple joins with google and suspends parler from its app store, hello and welcome to justice i am judge jeanine pirro, thinking for being with us tonight, we talk about the big tech censorship and much more but first let's get right to my open. ♪. judge jeanine: i want to be clear, the actions of the united states capital three days ago were deplorable, reprehensible, outright criminal, these frightening and repulsive actions represent the most significant breach on our capital in over 200 years, i
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don't care what happens in the past or those who didn't think the election was stolen, that is not justification. 75 million of us are still angry about the election but we don't storm the capital. and stop looking for other people to blame including the dirt bag terrorist antifa, to those of you whong did this, you did it of your own will and you will be held accountable. take the veil of politics off, be totally objective and anyone watching this must condemning. and in the end what was the point, what you get out of it, was there even a plan when you got in there besides looking like a bunch of freaks, breaking windows, carrying off the podium, sitting at nancy pelosi's death, leaving a love note with fingerprints behind identifying yourselves with
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selfies, stealing, damaging property, trespassing, looting, five people are dead in your wake, police officer, and air force veteran, not to mention countless injured including a young police officer on video screaming as he is being crushed blood coming out of his mouth. did anyone stop to think with his full hearty effort to disrupt the congressional hearing you have smeared 75 million of us because of what you did, did anyone change their vote, no. you have tarnished all the good that has been done over the last four years because of the senseless lunacy. worst of all you have yielded the moral high ground to those who have repeatedly and consistently taken away our freedoms, our freedom of speech,
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religion, our right to be with her family, celebrate holidays, go to work as you prance around like a bunch of idiots at the capital. we are a proud populist movement of millions of american who support a man who struck a cord with us, people who have never voted before, forgotten men and women, people who did not think their vote mattered came out in droves, but for four years we watch president trump deliver oe his promises, the he champion law and order he supported the military and he fought to fund it like no other president in our lifetime. and he fought for o police while the left called to defund the police unless of course they are needed in the capital query, is this a suggestion the life of someone in the inner-city is not is deserving of police protection, less valuable than a member of congress, people are
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frustrating especially when they hear comments like this. >> there had been a group ofat black lives matter protesting yesterday, it would not have been, they would've been treating very, very differently. judge jeanine: really they got away with police being told to stand down and prosecutors not filing charges when they created neighborhoods and businesses and got away with it. now i have long believed thats there are two systems of justice, one for the rich and one for the poor i even wrote a book about it, he killed them all, how the rich get away with crimes and the poor don't have the ability to mount the defense or influence public opinion. today i still believe that there are two systems of justice, two systems of outrages but today t there is one for the left and one for the right.
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it seems the rules are applied unequally and we have lived under incredible tension on top of that for the last year. and predictable day after night, big tech has followed up on what they gave us a taste of pre-election, last night when twitter said it would permanently ban president trump from his platform of 88 million followers and slide down the slippery slope began. censorship in the united states is the biggest threat to our freedom right now, social media is the broadcast media of our generation, it is how we communicate it, it is how we share our thoughts, persuade, argue, there is a reason freedom of speech is in the first amendment, is the essence of our
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american way, suddenly silicon valley, jack dorsey and company get to decide what speech is aacceptable in anointing themselves as arbiters of what the right says is allowed to be heard in the united states supreme court is repeatedly held that even hate speech is protected speech, it cannot be regulated because as part of our fundamental right of free speech under the first amendment. i don't like it when kamala harris goes on twitter to raise money to commit crimes again, her rightd fight forai to say it under the constitution. and amazingly even the aclu has joined to criticize the move by twitter. and now apple is threatening conservative leaning parler with removal from his platform. when youas are removed, censore, canceled from these platforms you are than the subject of an
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attack, assault, even dismissal from your job. if you are on the left however, you are rewarded with a job for you become the head of the department at a university. but the idea of censorship of speech in the united states is destructive to our free and open society. how can anyone possibly believe. this is good, forget fair, the idea that people get to decide who's speeches are oppressed and whose it isn't as totally outside of our constitutional framework. social media is a marketplace where we share ideas, as big tech continues to suppress conservative speech the inability of americans to get the facts will be more dire drawing a influence distinction between the truth and ally which will create even more chaos. fiction, remember often drives people over the edge, whatever
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the media takes side in the movement historic anger and frustration results we need a media that gives us the truth, they have not which prompted many of us to go online and now big tech is admitting they don't like what people on the right have to say, they cannot argue that their law enforcement with an obligation to seek out and criminal behavior is not their job. big tech must be regulated, they can no longer have the immunity under section 230 of the communications decency act. the shame as they do what they do because no one in congress is told them that they cannot. the monopolies want in, yet they continue because no one in congress has said that they can't. it is past time to peel back there immunity, the claim that they are taking on dangerous wnspeech is absurd, the ayatollh on twitter for the president of the united states is not, he was
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right, the thought police come next to punish thought crime. personal and political thought that are unapproved by the government. the very, very scared. that is my open, let me know what do you think of my facebook and twitter, # judge jeanine, if you like my opening my new book, don't lie to me, available everywhere now. here with reaction to my open as well as the nights breaking news apple suspending parler from the app store, oklahoma senator james lankford joins me now, good evening, big tech censorship is back in a big way, what do you say that is going on in the news that just broke.
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>> tech censorship has never left us, it's accelerating at a very fast pace, thisat is moved from i don't like a few things so i'll knock it out like i don't like you at all or your opinion or anyone on that side, i have often said the way that twitter and facebook are going there will be a rise of conservative social media and illiberal social media, that does not help us long-term to be able to have american dialogue with each other but that is the rise, now what were seen as big tech joining together to say when a conservative social media site rises we will do what we can to kill that and suppress it at the very beginning to make sure what the opinions we do not like are not heard, you cannot say that every n single person n parler is evil and inciting riots, you cannot say that, you cannot say every person is committed violence on parler. but what apple is trying to say we don't like his point of view
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so we will use all of our might as a company to diminish that. that is toxic to our culture into a group of people that said that they started their companies based on wanting people to be able to connect with each other and connect with family and friends and have dialogue, now the doing everything they can to stop it. that is a problem for us. judge jeanine: senator you're in the united states senate, there are issues regarding antitrust, monopoly, communications decency act, immunity, what will congress, would you expect congress to do, what can you do and what can you do if the democrats have the house, the oval and the senate. >> the democrats to have the house and the senate at this point so we will find out what exactly that looks like in the days ahead weird he said in the senate we want to have hearings, there was already hearing that the judiciary and working for the process to find out what the best process to address this, we will see if immediately the democrats kill that and say we
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like the point of view and we will block it out, it's also department of justice investigation on antitrust issues we will see if the biden white house kills the investigation for antitrust issues or if they will keep that going, this closing of evidence and lots of states around the country that engage to support this so we will see where this progresses in the days ahead. judge jeanine: would you agree with me senator that big tech censoring the president of the united states and then apple censoring parler which is a whole network of individuals mostly right-leaning is one of the most dangerous things we've seen happen in this country as it relates to our fundamental freedom. >> what you mentioned in your opening statement is exactly true they have reached a point that the big tech companies will block the president of the united states but they give an open platform to the ayatollahs and i want to be able to spew whatever hatred and whatever venom they want to put out.
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they give an open platform to the chinese and the communist government to be able to bring under protect their version of dominance but they won't allow open speech. there are ways they can tamp down the platform, they're just not willing to do that. so the issue is at this point they are in to lett. me control your speech rather than allowing people to be able to engage in the way that they choose to engage. this is a monster they have created in a matter -- we of americans are making the choice on how we will ben responsible with actually choosing to speak to each other about each other and information blatantly fraud that is out there and information that is false how we will handle the online and the tech companies have to be responsible and how they manage that. judge jeanine: you say it's a monster that they created, i see a monster that we have allowed them to create by giving them this authority and they gave us a taste before the election when they would not allow anyone to read about hunter biden, i want
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to move back to wednesday you were in the senate chamber when all this happened, i suspect what you tell us what your emotions were were there had been a breach. >> it was a difficult day to say the least to gone back. there were a lot of people with strong opinions one of the thing we wanted you in the senate was strong opinions we bring it out in the senate and house and we talk about it that's what we do as americans. there was a push to say that we cannot talk about it we cannot discuss it, we know that things get out when you start talking about it so i was part of the group saying let's talk it outd and keep going, then we start to hear one of thend house office buildings have been breached an outside area and were getting the noises people are tracking online and seeing inside the room but once you're inside we were in the middle of the debate we did not know what was happening and i was the one speaking in the senate at the time that the notification came and we really do have protesters inside and they're actively coming to the senate chamber
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right now, iat was debating, i looked up until the vice president being pulled out by his security team and they stepped in and said there's protesters in the building we have got to be able to shut this down locking the doors you can hear the noise outside. it was a disappointing day for us as americans because as americans we are better than this but we know a group of folks so angry they let their anger get out of control and did something foolish and irrational and illegal and they should be prosecuted for it. judge jeanine: one of the things going around on the internet my friends were e-mailing me and said it was all antifa, was not really maga and one of the images was an image that they had of these white buffets, they said all over the internet the police are bringing in antifa and then they showed the buses and behind the buses were more police cars. can you explain what that was about? >> i am absolutely stunned that
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i'm hearing conservatives online blaming the police, that is absolutely stunning to me. tm sure there were antifa folks and also certain they were trumped supporters that were out of control that were attacking the facility and tried to take out the center of government. there were buses that were brought b in but not busloads of antifa supporters of the capitol police were driving, that is insane those were buses that were brought in to evacuate members of congress because we have individuals screaming their way through the hallways beating up capitol police in massive numbers yelling out where are they, where are they incoming after members of congress and the police is trying to get control of the facility and creating a backup if we cannot get control of the capitol grounds we have to get members of congress out. those were buses to evacuate us. judge jeanine: i'm not sure the buses were from that day, i just
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want to ask you a question, senator lou has tweeted out that we just hit 180 cosponsors of articles of impeachment drafted by david cicilline and republican raskin in ha and houe judiciary. what do you expect on monday and what do here in washington about a second impeachment? >> we are really in a very heated moment, we had very foolish actions of trumped supporters stepping in the capital, doing something they should not have done, disgrace for the entire country, heated political moment we have to be able to bring volume down, speaker pelosi talking about impeaching the president with one week to go and try to drive this is trying to drive a wedge further in a difficult situation more difficult and right now we need to turn the rhetoric down not turn the volume up. it's best when there is a fire
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not to pull ga pour gasoline anr water, for the house to say will come in session when they already said we will not be in session until january the 20th and for them to save we will come back in the session and poor gas on the fire is a very foolish thing to do as well, let's allow the last week of his nresidency to beh able to finish out in the transition of government on january the 20t 20th. judge jeanine: which he said he's willing to do, senator james lankford always good to have you want from oklahoma, thank you so much. still ahead corey lewandowski, governor mike huckabee, tom fitton and dave rubin. congressman steve scalise reacts next to big tech out-of-control censorship and what can be done. we will be back in a moment. vil.
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♪ ♪. judge jeanine: welcome back to justice twitter and big tech beating president trump after the c-uppercase-letter, is abu censorship just the beginning for conservatives, let's ask my next guest steve scalise, congressman thank you for being here tonight, we knew they did not like people on the right we
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knew they did not like the president but now facebook and apple is taking down parler which is pretty much a right conservative communication social network, how far can this go and as a congressman what can you do? >> judge a lot of alarming things about last week, the centering from big tech has been going on for a long time, the washington post article that's been proven correct about hunter biden was banned by twitter what we need is conservative alternatives and it's really just free-speech alternatives and what started fox news because all of the mainstream media prior to fox news being created with only till the left story and there was no fair and balanced reporting it created the vacuum and another vacuum is being created where there is a need for parlors public square where people can go to talk
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about ideas and before wednesday conservatives were being silenced by big tech and that's been going on for years and a serious problem. judge jeanine: congressman what can need you and you take away their immunity, the d.o.j. is suing them for antitrust violation, when is the government going to regulate these people? they are bigger than -- they are bigger than the government. >> if you look at the laws already they don'tre qualify for the protection of the law because those protection whether section 230 or others are there for people who are true public squares, town halls where you can talk about anything, that is not what there are anymore, their publishers, sensors whatever you want to refer to it as, the ayatollah can still post and once they start saying they will only allow certain speeches but not all speeches they don't deserve the protection that the liability protections like section 230 allow people.
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all of that needs to be addressed. judge jeanine:dr the immunity. igknow that, this is the next for people on the right, we can't share our ideas, our thoughts, we can't learn about what people are saying who are conservatives or republicans,tu this is major stuff, i want to segue back to election integrity, there's the millions of americans who will not have the election don't trust what happened, i know it's up to the state, what can be done by the states to ensure their signature verification or voter id or mail does not change the election laws a minute before the election, what do you recommend so americans feel more comfortable with a free and fair election.
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>> what our founding fathers laid on the constitution the legislatures are the body who are supposed to determine what election day looks like in each state i don't want the federal government running national elections but i alsoat don't wat the opportunities for fraud and you look at some of the changes that were made at the last minute it was of the legislative bodies they went through a secretary of state and got them to change the rules in many states and went to court where they could get a favorable more opinion and got rid of voter id, got rid of the added same-day registration, things that make it right for voter fraud and i've seen in my own state we confronted voter fraud that was gone on for decades and we finally put those powers within the secretary of state and laid out rules that everybody plays by in the same setht of rules ad that is something going forward that we need to address and we ought to be able to find out the results on election night in a large state like florida or
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nxas are able to get the returns by 10:00 o'clock at night in some states, new york is counting votes from the november election, it hasn't even been called for goodnessio sakes. judge jeanine: what a shame. >> we are finding balance weeks and months later that has to into. judge jeanine: i have to ask you a question, i only have two seconds, you were shot by someone when you are congressman by someone looking for republican. again you were in the house when it was literally breached by this mob, is at with it being a hunger's been? >> we gotta fight for this country and were going to fight for the future of this country and what we saw wednesday was disturbing on so many fronts, i was angry what i saw in the people who did it, whether they support president trump or whoever, whatever their
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motivation was they need to behold fully accountable, arrested they attacked one police officer is dead my heart goes out to the family of officer sicknick who died, many other police officers i saw on thursday who were attacked and still recovering for those injuries. thus who we are as americans and we need to stand up on that a unequivocally indicate never happen again we need to reported by the capital because our enemies around the world are watching this to and while we need to hold those people accountable who did this there is no excuse for what they did our enemies are watching this as we saw how to gethe intoun the united states capital and cannot be able to stop democracy. judge jeanine: congressman steve scalise, our hats off to you, thank you for being a congressman, thank you for what you do. the impeachment pushes on again, are democrats going too far in the winding days of the administration corey lewandowski is next to talk about that much
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consequences, a short time ago nancy pelosi confirmed she will introduce legislation to impeach president trump. if it succeeds to be the first u.s. president to be impeached twice. at the same time american diplomats have drafted two cables condemning the president's actions ahead of the deadly assault on the capital. they are asking the vice president and cabinet secretary to support poking them 20 for the moment to remove mr. trump from office. the coronavirus infections affect 90 million cases around the world, countries brace for wider spread of the strain of the virus was killed 2 million worldwide. i am jon scott, now back to "justice with judge jeanine" ♪ ♪. judge jeanine: president trump vowing a smooth transition in the wake of the deadly siege on
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capitol hill, this is the dems push to once again impeach the president in the final days of dvfice, former trump 2020 senior advisor and co-author of trump america first corey lewandowski joined me now, good evening, now they want to impeachw him again, next week is left and they still ant to impeach him, let me ask you a more direct question, what do you think the president's legacy will be in light of what happened on wednesday. >> if you listen to the mainstream media, the legacy will be a failure of the last four years. but the truth is our country stronger with every whether military and basically putting middle east peace back in the table with the special deals with israel and the other countries in addition to that he grew our economy and rebuilt our military, made us the envy of the world, we have the strongest economy in the lowest unemployment rate before the coronavirus hit of anywhere in
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the world. all that if you listen to the mainstream media will be pushed aside becausesh of one day and people who need to be held accountable for whato they did and i sat my family down when i got back from washington and i said do you remember when the black lives matter ran through the streets and destroyed police cars and police substations and i told you i would never tolerate that let me be crystal clear i don't tolerate what took place of the capital and police officers because i was one. i will never tolerate that and done like the hypocrites on the left it is never condoned if it's on the right or the left, unfortunately for most people all they hear is trump's fault and it's only the conservatives that do damage. judge jeanine: in line with that, they are continuing to press on with big tech, you know the president had 88 million twitter followers, this is the way he communicated with these people to get around people, the
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president suggested he will find another platform, and you know ioat he's thinking or what his options are right now to communicate with the public? >> i don't know specifically, i would not want to get out in frfront of him what we do know s the president has been very successful first as a candidate than as a president bypassing the mainstream media and we know they've always hated that he's never had to hold apart conference and he's been very forthright in the way he's been thinking and the notion is they can ban twitter, facebook and others can be in the leader of the free world of the president of the united states, think of what that does to everyday want to disagree or have a disagreement on one of the social platforms if they can do it to donald trump or the president of the united states we know they can do it to anybody, that should scare everybody. judge jeanine: finally with this impeachment effort, they say they can get this impeachment through the house of next week, they may even try the president
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once joe biden takes office, the hate is intense, what do you think the point is? >> the point is to embarrass donald trump in hated him since he came down the golden escalator. this does not help our country whatsoever the president has been clear he's leaving office and generally 20th, he's conceded the fact that joe biden will be the next president of the united states it does no good for the country or for h anyone else to have this president once again go through an impeachment trial when we know the first one, by the way, let me f remind the interviewers joe biden and barack obama knew the russian collusion narrative was a hoax made up a hillary clinton campaign and in four years they never came forward but we know they were told about it in january of 2017, never once have they come forward or try to at the time stop the impeachment of president trump. judge jeanine: the sad part about all of this, corey lewandowski is a politics is about them and not us the people, corey lewandowski, thank
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♪ walk a mile in my shoes ♪ ♪ well before you abuse, criticize and accuse ♪ ♪ walk a mile in my shoes judge jeanine: the democrats will control: the senate is abiding here's administration is sworn in, will all the good the president trump did be erased? former arkansas governor mike huckabee joined me now to discuss that and more. good evening governor, thank you for being with us, what do you think the answer to that question is, will all the good the president has done be erased by the trump haters? >> not all of it but a whole lot will, they cannot undo moving the embassy to jerusalem they will not be able to do the reset
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of the middle east, they will not be able to immediately undo the president support of the military. what they will undo is his strong support for the sanctity of life, religious liberty, freedom of speech, they will probably go back to the paris peace accord and push to degree new deal and all of the cheap energy that we have enjoyed because the president put us in a place where energy independent for the first time in the last 70 years that will go away. people would be paying more to heat and cool their homes and b drive their cars. they will do a lot of damage the country with policies that do not make good sense. judge jeanine: within the regulation that allows to go forward in spite of the pandemic, what do you think is t going to happen ultimately in america, i don't know that we've ever been more divided big tech is come in and put their bigfoot on these voices of american of
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the president. where are we in americaoi right now and where do we go from here? >> my mother would've said it this way for hell of a mess because she never wanted to swear but that would be the closer she would get to it. and big tech is a part of the ruin of the country because the act like somebody has elected them to run and rule the country. there is a platform, imagine what would happen if your phone company calls you up your wireless carrier and says we listen to your conversations, we don't like what you've been saying and we don't like to you been talking to we just cut yout phone off, that's of the social media companies are doing and with all due respect to the people in congress they keeps. talking we will have hearings, i am sick of hearings without all these hearings and nothing has been changed, quit having the hearings start writing legislation with teeth and it and start putting your feet on the big tech companies because
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that is what we sent you to washington to do and if you cannot do get the heck out of the way and let 70 get up there who will. judge jeanine: if term limits were ever a thought of anyone i would think now we would be think about it more than ever, term limits are essential but it is real simple all you have to do is get a law passed that eliminates immunity that they have in the protection that they have under 230 in the communications decency act. that is one way to start it, secondly, hopefully the monopoly will come to an end, but let's talk about why let's talk abou about -- is criminal. , what do we expect to 2022. >> i think we will have a good chance of taking the house and
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senate because i fully expectre the democrats will overreach just like they did in obama's d first two years, they shoved obamacare down our throats without a single republican vote, i remember president obama saying to john mccain, johnoh elections have consequences and we won, in other words, shut up he explained and that's what w we're going to see for the nexth two years, and arrogant spiteful approach by democrats in the country will probably see it for what it is and i think they will start suffering under the policies of higher taxes, more regulation, more globalism, they will stop the innovation the president trump did bring you may not like him but he got some things done, when that starts eroding you will see people looking for a different level of leadership. judge jeanine: thank you yvernor mike huckabee. we will be back in a moment. ♪ a backache.
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judge jeanine: apple suspense parler and big tech really dropping the hammer on conservatives. judicial watch president tomro fitton with the report joining me now, we don't have a lot of time, tom you know i love you get information from congress all the time because you sue everybody, let's talk about big
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tech section 230 and for some reason they get protected, what can we do about the protection. >> the law should be reformed because the courts are misinterpreting to allow them to engage and bad faith discriminatory activity and censorship against conservatives. they just locked me out of twitter yesterday after i poste. a tweet that they had previously found to be not in violation of the rules, he relates to the ht q drug, they tell me i cannot go back on for seven days, this is a pretextual way of getting out a leaning conservative, it's not about censoring people for saying the wrong things, they do not want us to be on the internet anywhere, going over to parler may work for some time but i guarantee you, i predict fortunately the parler will not be around in a few weeks the way things are going. judge jeanine: it is not, it is not they suspended it today,
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dave take it. >> in the last few minutes is not just apple or google play that took them off their story, it's amazon servers have gone down for parler and they're down for a week, we just have to keep fighting you may remember the red wedding in the "game of thrones" were they took a half the characters were seeing the red wedding of social media right now they're trying to take out every counter voice you know i started locals.com i build digital homes for creators and pretty sure you're about to launch in great got filters on their and scott adams in a whole other integrate people were trying to give people tools so they can create an internet that is better for you,re people can check it out at rubin report, were not perfect or safe we know the knives are out for everybody and i hate to say b it but a whe bunch of us we told you this was coming and if they take out trump the way that they systematically knocked him off
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of all these things it does not about whether what do you think about ayatollah the last couple of days on capitol hill. they are showing you we can come for anybody and everyone should be standing up. judge jeanine: yes, were coming for you. judge jeanine: at least he takeu responsibility for what we do. >> that violence washa inexcusae but the left is now said if you oppose the policies, that's the equivalent of violence and have to be removed. >> to raise questions about election integrity, you cannot be on the internet. if you raise questions about the lockdown you cannot be on the internet. opposing policy is a reason for you to be removed by the big tech companies, section 230 never envision that taking place, it does not allow for it, it does not need to be changed and needs to be enforced, and the ftc needs to go after these companies drumming engaging in business fraud from telling the public they're removing people for one reason when in fact
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they're removing them from another, politics. >> i hate to tell you guys biden and the democrats controlling the senate and everything else were in a lot of trouble, everybody needs to figure out an offering for the social media things, they are watching this right now there is no doubt that somebody at facebook and someone at twitter and the rest are watching the shows, figuring out how can we get everybody else, this is coordinated we know it and were sitting there saying can somebody save us, nobody is coming to save us, this is really it.. judge jeanine: congress can pass a law. >> we use the u.s. postal service, that is why the internet is not safe any conservatives in terms of being protected by censorship no matter where you are. judge jeanine: what did you say that we use? >> we use the mail, it may be
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that we have to communicate the old-fashioned way, the u.s. postal service. >> dave rubin has a good idea. judge jeanine: anyway, good to have you both on. go ahead. >> david deep goliath, the little guy can beat the big guy, they seem huge and all-encompassing andhi ubiquitos and we can never escape them but they will destroy themselves and we need to build things in the meantime. judge jeanine: we will. thank you guys, we'll be right back everyone.
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castles. i did the best time doing this for fox. it premieres this monday on fox nation. thanks much forh watching i'm jeanine pirro advocating for truth, justice and the american way. don't forget i'm on cameo and will be on local. ♪ mark: hello america, i'm mark levin and this is "life, liberty and levin". warning, anything i say this evening will be used to attack me by the press, the democrat party and that never trump but i don't care. i always try to speak the truth and i want to talk to you tonight. it's a very, very impor
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